2013 04-04E IDIAN~-- MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING
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AGENDA
City Council Chambers
33 E. Broadway Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
Thursday, April 04, 2013 at 7:00 p.m.
1.
Roll-call Attendance
X Macy Miller X Michael Rohm
O_ Scott Freeman _X Joe Marshall
X_ Steven Yearsley -Chairman
2.
3.
4.
Adoption of the Agenda Approved
Consent Agenda Approved
A. Approve Minutes of March 21, 2013 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting
Action Items
A. Continued Public Hearing from March 21, 2013: PP 13-002
Bellabrook Villas (aka Brookside Square) by ZWJ Properties,
LLC Located at 300 S. Locust Grove Road Request:
Preliminary Plat approval Consisting of 26 Single-Family
Residential Building Lots and Four (4) Common/Other Lots on
4.38 Acres of Land in an R-15 Zoning District Recommend
Approval to City Council
B. Public Hearing: RZ 13-003 807 N. Meridian Road by LTD, LLC
Located at 807 N. Meridian Road Request: Rezone of 0.74 of an
Acre from the R-8 (Medium Density Residential) to the O-T (Old
Town) Zoning District Recommend Approval to City Council
C. Public Hearing: CUP 13-002 Gramercy Pride Apartments by
Sagecrest Development, LLC Located 2111 and 2283 S.
Accolade Avenue Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval
for 18 Multi-Family Dwelling Units on Two (2) Lots on
Approximately 1.38 Acres in an Existing R-15 Zoning District
Recommend Approval to City Council
Meeting adjourned at 8:13 p.m.
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Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission April 4, 2013
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of April 4, 2013, was called
to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Steven Yearsley.
Present: Chairman Steven Yearsley, Commissioner Michael Rohm, Commissioner
Macy Miller and Commissioner Joe Marshall.
Members Absent: Commissioner Scott Freeman.
Others Present: Jacy Jones, Ted Baird, Bruce Chatterton, Bill Parson, Sonya Wafters,
and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-Call Attendance:
Roll-call
X Steven Yearsley X Macy Miller
X Michael Rohm X Joe Marshall
X Scott Freeman -Chairman
Yearsley: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. At this time we'd like to call to order
the regularly scheduled meeting for the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission for
April 4th, 2013. I'd like to begin with roll call.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda
Yearsley: Thank you. The first item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda. At
this time we have no changes, so can I get a motion to adopt the agenda?
Marshall: So moved.
Miller: Second.
Yearsley: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as presented. All in favor
say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 3: Consent Agenda
A. Approve Minutes of March 21, 2013 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting
Yearsley: Next item on the agenda is the Consent Agenda. The item that we have on
the Consent Agenda is approval of the meeting minutes for March 21st, 2013, Planning
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and Zoning Commission. Have you all had a chance to look at those? Any comments?
Changes? If not, then, I would stand for a motion.
Miller: I move to approve the Consent Agenda.
Marshall: Second.
Yearsley: I have got a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. All in
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Yearsley: At this time we'd like to go into the public hearings, but Iwill -- let me explain
the public hearing process really quickly. We are going to open each item. First we will
start off with the staff report. They will present the findings and how it adheres to our
current Comprehensive Plan and Uniform Development Code with staff
recommendations. The applicant will, then, come forward to present their case for
approval of their application and respond to any staff comments. The applicant will
have up to 15 minutes. At that time we will open it up to the public testimony for the
public to testify. There is a sign-up sheet in the back if you want to testify. Any person
wishing to come forward will be allowed three minutes. If they are speaking for a group,
like an HOA and there is a show of hands to represent the group, they will be given up
to ten minutes. After the testimony has been given the applicant will have an
opportunity to respond to those comments of up to ten minutes. Then we will close the
public hearing process and the Commission will have the opportunity to discuss and
hopefully make a recommendation to City Council.
Item 4: Action Items
A. Continued Public Hearing from March 21, 2013: PP 13-002
Bellabrook Villas (aka Brookside Square) by ZWJ Properties,
LLC Located at 300 S. Locust Grove Road Request:
Preliminary Plat approval Consisting of 26 Single-Family
Residential Building Lots and Four (4) Common/Other Lots on
4.38 Acres of Land in an R-15 Zoning District
Yearsley: So, at this time we'd like to open the continued public hearing for March 21st,
2013, of PP 13-002, Bellabrook Villas and let's begin with the staff report.
Wafters: Thank you, Chairman Yearsley, Members of the Commission. The application
before you tonight is a request for a preliminary plat. The site consists of 4.38 acres of
land. It's currently zones R-15 and is located at 300 South Locust Grove Road, south of
Franklin and East of Locust Grove. Adjacent land use and zoning. To the north is a
church zoned C-N. To the south are residential properties zoned RUT in Ada County
and R-4 in the city. Woodbridge Subdivision. To the east is rural residential property
zoned R-1 in Ada County and commercial property zoned C-G and to the west is Locust
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Grove Road and rural residential property zoned R-1 in Ada County and a daycare
center zoned L-O. A little history on this site. In 2007 it was rezoned to R-15 and a
conditional use permit was approved for amulti-family development. Private streets
were tentatively approved for access and addressing and were constructed within the
site, but never received final approval. The multi-family development was never
completed and the property is now under different ownership. A summary of the current
request. The applicant requests approval of a preliminary consisting of 26 single family
residential building lots and four common and other lots. The proposed plat conforms to
the dimensional standards of the R-15 district and the density desired in MUC mixed
use community designated areas. A little background on this. When the applicant first
submitted this application it was for private streets throughout the development. Again,
the existing streets are private -- did private construction standards. Staff did not
recommend approval of the application, so staff has been working with the applicant to
come up with something that would be acceptable to city code and ACHD, as well as
accomplish what the applicant is trying to develop there. So, the applicant is now
proposing to convert the entry street, which is Kalispell, you can see here, off of Locust
Grove Road, which constructed to private street standards, to a public street and stub it
at the east boundary for future access and interconnectivity. Private streets are
proposed for the loop road connecting to the proposed public street, which is right here.
Approval of the proposed plat is contingent upon ACHD's acceptance of the private
street, Kalispell, as a public street. ACHD staff is in support of converting Kalispell to a
public street, however, the commission action is required to do so and they have not
acted on this application yet. It won't be up for several more weeks, probably another
six weeks, on their agenda. One of the required findings of the UDC is that the director
has to make, in order to approve a private street, is that the site design has to create a
common MEU or a limited gated residential development. Private streets are not
intended for single family residential develop such as this. However, because the
streets already exist and because the R-15 district doesn't have a minimum street
frontage requirement, staff has approved a private street contingent upon gates being
installed near the entrance to the private streets in accord with the aforementioned
finding. A seven foot wide pathway exists through the common area and extends to the
east side of the Five Mile Creek where amulti-use pathway is planned. You can see
right here on the landscape plan. Staff recommends the developer provide a public use
easement for the section of the multi-use pathway on the east side of the creek and
extend the pathway to the north and south property boundaries. Six foot tall vinyl
fencing it depicted on the landscape plan as existing around the perimeter of the
subdivision. Staff recommends the fencing adjacent to the common area be reduced to
four feet in height if solid material is used or six foot if open vision material is used, in
accord with UDC standards. The applicant has submitted conceptual elevations for the
proposed homes in the development. They are all single family detached. The
Comprehensive Plan future land use map designation for this property is mixed use
community. Matt Howard did submit written testimony, he's the applicant's
representative, in response to the staff report and I will just go over his request real
quick with you. He requests condition number 1.1.2 be stricken. The applicant states
the pathway currently extends to the north, but not to the south property line due to the
topography of the site in that area, which slopes away dramatically from the edge of the
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path to the south and will have to be filled when the property to the south develops.
That was staffs condition to extend the pathway to the north and south property
boundaries. Staff is in agreement with the applicant's request in this situation. The
second request by the applicant is for condition number 1.1.5 to be stricken, which
requires gates to be installed at the entrances to the private street. The applicant states
that installing gates would serve no purpose other than to create an unnecessary barrier
between the homeowners. Staff cannot strike this condition as it is a UDC provision
and one of the findings that has to be made to approve a private street. The last
request is for condition number 1.1.7 to be modified to allow the existing fencing
adjacent to the common area that is owned by adjacent property owners to remain.
There is drawing here that the applicant submitted. It shows -- kind of hard to read
here, but the LDS property -- the church to the north has installed six foot tall solid
vision fencing around the perimeter of their site, which is adjacent to the common area
and the property owner to the south here has also installed six foot closed vision
fencing. The applicant just requests that that be allowed to remain as it isn't their fence,
they don't have authority to change that, but for the remainder of the area along the
common area the applicant will comply with UDC's requirements. Staff is in agreement
with the applicant's request to modified condition 1.1.7 accordingly. Staff is
recommending approval of the proposed plat per the conditions in the staff report with
the aforementioned changes. Staff will stand for any questions the Commission may
have.
Yearsley: Thank you. Are there any questions?
Marshall: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Marshall.
Marshall: So, I'd like to know what changes would have to be made to make this private
street a public street and what is involved before ACHD is going to accept that as a
public street?
Wafters: Chairman Yearsley, Commissioner Marshall, Commissioners, the streets
would have to be widened to ACHD standards. I don't have a -- I don't have the
standards for that street in front of me. But they would have to be widened. Sidewalks
would have to be provided on each side of the street. Private streets only require
sidewalks on one side of the street.
Marshall: Okay. So, we are talking they would have to move curb and gutter that's
already existing?
Wafters: Yes.
Marshall: Add asphalt and probably base.
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Wafters: Widen the street. Yeah. Possibly the -- the base would have to be different,
too.
Marshall: All right.
Wafters: The applicant can probably give you more information on that. They did
speak with ACRD about accepting all the streets as public and what the requirements
would be to -- for them to accept them as public, so they can probably speak a little
more to that.
Marshall: Thank you.
Miller: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Miller.
Miller: I have got a question for -- Kalispell, the main entrance street, was also
constructed as a private street and is it -- are they proposing that that will be widened to
ACHD standards to make that public in this?
Wafters: Yes, Commissioner Miller.
Miller: Okay. And, then, I have one other question. Where exactly are these gates
proposed to go?
Wafters: Code requires them to be 50 feet from the entrance to the private street. So,
50 feet in. So, it would be approximately in there.
Miller: And is it three gates or two?
Wafters: Two. This loop is the portion that's proposed to be private.
Miller: Thank you.
Yearsley: Any other questions? Would the applicant like to come forward, please.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Howard: Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, Matt Howard. 1854 East Lanark Street,
Meridian, Idaho. 83642. Appreciate the opportunity to be here tonight and answer
some questions. Appreciate Sonya and her efforts to present that staff report. The few
exceptions that we have asked for, the main one being the gate issue and, then, I also
want to address briefly the ACRD requirements on Kalispell. If we look at -- let's see. I
don't know how to run this. Sonya, if we can go back to the plat. There is a typical
existing street section there in the top left which shows the required size of that street,
so, actually, we would not need to remove the existing asphalt and sidewalk in order to
meet ACHD's requirement for that road to be public. We would just need to add a five
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foot attached sidewalk on the inside loop of the development. Thank you. Because it's
existing on the other side where it was going to be a private street or where it was
originally constructed as a private street, of course, that was not initially required. So,
that would, generally speaking, be one requirement that we would need to comply with
with ACHD in order for them to accept that as a public street. That was the primary
requirement. And, then, we would have easements at one foot back from those
sidewalks in order to get the necessary access for them. So, that was the primary thing
with ACHD that we are working through and as staff indicated they have indicated
initially that they are in agreement with making that road public and proceeding that way
and, then, we just need to go through the hearing with their commission. The issue of
the gates -- you bring up a good question with that. The location of those gates would
be approximately where those cross-sections across the road are. The detail there. It
would be roughly in that area. And as I mentioned in my response to the staff report
that this seems to create an unnecessary barrier -- thank you -- an unnecessary barrier
within the subdivision itself and I mean, obviously, that is something that we can do.
We can install gates. It just -- for this size of development -- I mean it's a very small
development at 26 lots. They are smaller lots as it is and that's why we have asked for
that exception to be made to the requirement to install the gates. And, then, the other
issue was the fencing and I think Sonya addressed that well. With much of that fencing
already existing, obviously, that would be hard for us to change. The other section
where there is not a six foot vinyl fence, it's barbed wire fencing that runs through there
and so we would -- would be able to put the four foot fence that staff is recommending
in those sections of the common area. And, then, lastly regarding the south boundary
on the ten foot wide multi-use path there on Five Mile Creek, as I mentioned in my
response it does connect to the north boundary currently, as you can see up here. The
south boundary -- this is a picture looking at the topography and you can see -- I don't
know how well you can see, but standing at the top ledge you're at half orthree-quarters
of the height of that barbed wire fence that you see in the picture. So, I mean it can be
done. I think the solution there is to just have an easement for that section of the
pathway to allow for connectivity in the future when that path is developed. I would
stand for any questions at this time.
Yearsley: Thank you. Are there any questions?
Marshall: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Marshall.
Marshall: Okay. So, we have got a 29 foot back to back on Truss, Bellalucca, and
Torino. Correct? Your street section as existing. At least I'm trying to -- mine I had to
blow it up a bit and it's still a little hard to read, but I'm reading it 29 foot back to back, 25
foot edge to edge on asphalt was rolled curb -- two foot rolled curb each side.
Howard: On that private street, yes.
Marshall: Connect. So, what's ACHD requiring for a public street on that?
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Howard: Well, those streets would not be made public, but you're just asking in general
what would they require?
Marshall: Yes.
Howard: My understanding is that they require a 41 foot right of way.
Marshall: And so --
Howard: And so as you look at the typical existing street section for Kalispell, which
would have the public section, would incorporate that.
Marshall: And your lots are of such a size you wouldn't be able to build on them with a
40 foot -- 41 foot right of way is what you're telling me?
Howard: Correct. And also the fact that the -- so much of this development is existing
already, it's been sitting there for, you know, four or five years. You know, obviously, if
we were to do it again if would be done differently, but given the constraints we have
this is a plan that, you know, we have worked with staff to present that would be feasible
and workable given those constraints. But, yes, that would meet the ACHD
requirements.
Marshall: All right. Thank you.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Yearsley: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: Are the other utilities in as well, the natural gas lines and power, electric and
water and all those things as well?
Howard: Yes, Commissioner. All the utilities are existing. We actually have excessive
sewer connections in there that would be abandoned back to the main in order to
accommodate the number of lots that were proposed.
Rohm: Reconfiguration of the lots?
Howard: Yes.
Rohm: Thank you.
Howard: Okay. Thank you.
Yearsley: Thank you very much.
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Howard: Thank you.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman, I have a couple questions of staff, if you don't mind.
Yearsley: Can we -- I have one person who has signed up to testify. Can we do that
first?
Rohm: You bet.
Yearsley: I have someone -- I have Orson Woodhouse. Would he like to come up?
Woodhouse: Mr. Chairman, Commissioners, my name is Orson Woodhouse. I reside
at 10010 Palisades in Boise, Idaho. I am the broker -- I have been the broker for
Woodhouse Group Real Estate since 2000 and we have been working with Matt and
the owner -- the condominium plat had some -- well, condominiums in general have
issues in terms of financing through FHA, as you probably know, and FHA is starting to
change their guidelines, but if a project isn't designed to meet their requirements for
financing -- the homeowners association has to be set up a certain way with a certain
number of owner occupied properties and the homeowners association can't have any
history of delinquencies to a certain degree, so the vehicle for condominium financing
with a lower down payment has virtually disappeared, mostly for FHA, and so this would
be a solution that would provide an alternative that would be more cost effective and
potentially more affordable for the types of jobs that are generated in that area with
Scentsy doing their thing and St. Luke's doing their expansion and a lot of the retail
businesses in that area they can afford a certain type of home and this solution would
provide them that option and even with the smaller home sites you can make the home
attractive. A lot of folks we are finding are moving towards a lower maintenance type
lifestyle and want yards that they can maintain that aren't extremely large. You have a
lot of single mom's with children. This would be a nice location for them. So, that was
part of the premise to move to single family home sites at this particular location,
because it would comply with FHA financing and a lower down payment.
Yearsley: Thank you very much.
Woodhouse: Thank you.
Yearsley: At this time is there anybody else that would like to testify? Commissioner
Rohm, would you -- at this time you can actually ask your question now.
Rohm: Okay. Good. You know, I have been around for quite a while on this
Commission and it seems as if gated communities have been kind of frowned upon by
the city for quite a number of years and it also seems to me that this particular
development would be better suited to not be gated and I guess where I'm going with
this is even though the UDC specifies that if the road is not constructed to ACRD
standards, it has to be a private road, is there any way that the city as part of the City
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Council's approval of this project can waive that -- that ruling or is it -- or is that just cast
in concrete that we have no room or any flexibility?
Wafters: Chairman Yearsley, Commissioner Rohm, I think that's one of the city attorney
questions.
Baird: Commissioner -- Chairman and Commissioners, I saw her giving me the eye, so
knew that she was going throw it over this way. The short answer is it's required by our
code. There are no variances allowed. There is no exceptions. The most that you can
do is in your remarks forwarding this to City Council you can ask for some kind of a
code change -- you know, ask staff to look into that. Kind of like what we have done
with some other things, block lengths and things of that nature where you're stuck with a
situation that wasn't anticipated by the code and it restricts you unduly and comes up
with a weird result. So, your hands are tied, but you can, you know, see if we can't
move forward to solve it down the road. Hope that helps.
Yearsley: I guess one follow up for that question. Can the City Council do away -- I
mean with this application say, no, we don't want to --
Baird: Legally -- well, under the city code they don't have any of those options either.
Yearsley: Okay.
Baird: And that's all I'm going to say at this point.
Yearsley: Okay.
Rohm: I suppose we could make a recommendation and, then, the Council could direct
the Planning Department to rewrite the specification for that specific code and have that
move forward. It's not going to help in the short run, but maybe we can figure out a way
to at least let them get started and let the changes, if, in fact, there is something that the
Council would even consider, catch up with it as we go down the road. I don't know, but
it just seems -- it doesn't seem like a very good fit to me. We as a city have strongly
discouraged gated communities. I mean that's just something that we are -- we are
trying to make sure that all of our roads have ingress-egress to the community as a
whole and because of the construction of these existing roads doesn't seem to change
the fact that we still want that -- that mobility. So, I'm just on record saying that I'm not
sure that that's the best answer, but it might be the -- in the short run the only answer,
so --
Chatterton: Mr. Chairman, if I could comment real quick to Commissioner Rohm. What
you have before you really is -- I don't think that anyone is really happy with the
situation. I mean clearly you have a development in which the infrastructure provided
was for multi-family. It accommodates multi-family. We really -- staff was really in a
quandary on this one. We very rarely deny anything. That would have been one
option. So, we felt that to move forward with -- let the project move forward and be
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considered, you know, with, of course, the limits -- keeping in mind the limitations that
Mr. Baird mentioned -- was the best -- the best thing for everyone, but it is -- it is a
situation where things had been sized and configured for a different type of projects.
The -- I'm not -- I'm no fan of gated communities at all, but in our code private streets go
part and parcel with -- with gates. There is a bit of mitigation here in the fact that
stubbing the street out to the east -- how far is that actually going to go in the future. It
would go to the canal and probably no further. It's very unlikely we would have a
crossing or bridge at that point. So, there is less of a chance I think of -- of the private
streets being trying to serve -- being ungated trying to serve that purpose that a -- that
public streets built to ACHD standards would serve. So, this was -- this was a real
tough one for us and --
Rohm: Oh, I -- believe me, I am in full support of the staff coming forward with their
recommendations, because we all have to live by the UDC and the Comprehensive
Plan, but I have seen in the past where Council has a little bit more flexibility. But I think
it's suffice to say that the current law of the land says you have to gate it if it's going to
be built to those standards and it's already there, so I have exhausted my opportunity
here, so we can move forward.
Marshall: Mr. Chair? Along those lines, probing just another area, what's the definition
of the gate that's required? Could you help me with that?
Chatterton: I think we are going to have to consult the code on that, Commissioner.
Rohm: Well, I suppose they could have a gate that they just leave open.
Marshall: Right.
Rohm: I mean --
Marshall: And something a little more decorative that might -- and code requires that
they be 50 foot back?
Chatterton: Yeah. And, of course, Mr. Chair, Commissioner that is, of course, as the
applicant pointed out, that is not a great situation to have that occurring that far into the
-- the development. Yes, it does require that it be 50 feet in.
Marshall: Okay.
Chatterton: And we are checking those other requirements right now.
Wafters: It just can't restrict pedestrian and bicycle access along the private street and
can't dead end in a cul-de-sac or dead end, which it doesn't. No common driveways are
allowed off the private street, which there aren't any. That's pretty much it.
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Marshall: And it just says it has to be gated without a true definition of the gate. So, my
exploration here is tending to suggest maybe something more -- on a decorative front.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Yearsley: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: I think we want to close the public hearing.
Baird: Well, I think I will just go ahead and address that, if you don't mind, since it
was --
Yearsley: Absolutely.
Baird: -- posed and, then, I would be happy to see this closed, but, Mr. Chair and
Commissioners, I think that's going to be in the discretion of the applicant, how
decorative it is, whether it -- you know, what control features are on it, whether it's
manual, whether there is a situation where it's left open. Wink. Wink. It's just
unfortunate that the codes require the expenditure. Now, I'm thinking possibly of a
situation where if the City Council is going to direct staff to change the code to allow an
exemption, perhaps they could also allow through the planning department for the
developer to bond for the gate and if the code isn't changed within a certain period of
time, then, they would have to go install it. I'm just -- there is some options that staff can
explore with the applicant to -- to get a more reasonable result here. So, those are my
comments.
Yearsley: Okay. I guess just for the applicant, do you want to come up and make any
responses to any of this at this time or are you okay?
Howard: I am being told no.
Yearsley: Okay. Just wanted to give that open to you. At this time I would entertain a
motion to close the public hearing for PP 13-002, Bellabrook Villas.
Marshall: So moved.
Miller: Second.
Yearsley: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing for PP 13-002. All
in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Yearsley: Okay: Who would like to go first?
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
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Yearsley: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: I think that this is a very well thought out development based upon what's
already existing and I applaud their efforts for taking something that had been laying
fallow for a number of years and putting the effort into it bring some new live to that
section in our community and so I applaud them for that and the fact of the matter is is
there is some issues associated with this and we as a Commission can't resolve those,
but I think that the discussion that's taken place tonight has at least opened the door to
communication between them and the Council or the fact of the construction of that gate
isn't part of this Commission's responsibility, so we will just leave it with that and move
forward with the balance of the application as requested.
Yearsley: Okay.
Miller: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Miller.
Miller: I agree with a lot of what was said here about the gates kind of a silly little
formality. I think that this could be a cool development. I like the small lots and you get
density, like Mr. Woodhouse said, towards those industries we have growing. I really
like the little public area out to the side. I think it would be a cool place to live.
Obviously there is some stuff to work through. But I like it.
Yearsley: Thank you. Commissioner Marshall, you're sitting there thinking pretty hard.
Marshall: Yeah. Well, I'm kind of in agreement with the applicant that if I had a clean
slate I would probably do something different, but based on the infrastructure that's
there, I have to admit I think they have tried pretty hard to make that work and I
appreciate all the work with staff and I appreciate staff, because this is a difficult
situation. It really is. I do like to see something move forward here. I'm not fond of the
gates, but given the situation, you know, maybe they can figure something out there and
I do kind of like the idea of maybe giving some time there on the -- on the option of
bonding for those instead, to see if something can be done. Other than that -- and
appreciate stafFs agreement with the requests on 1.1.2 and 1.1.7. So, yeah, I'm for the
project then.
Yearsley: Thank you. You know, I have looked at this and I -- you know, I have kind of
gone back and forth on this project and I think that where it comes down to me is the
private road. We are putting a pretty hefty burden on the residents having to maintain
that roadway in the future. Roadways are not inexpensive to maintain and you're
putting, what, 20 citizens -- or 20 residents having to maintain that roundabout. So, I --
struggle with this one just because of -- because of that financial burden that has to be
placed on those residents that live there and that may actually have something to do
with what lot sales -- on what they are going to have to get out of them or not. My -- my
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initial thought was maybe widen the roadway to the inside and make the center as a
park as an option. You know, you got 26 lots that you're trying to cram into there, which
is pretty tight in my opinion, so -- so, like I said, I struggle with that. So, that's kind of my
thoughts.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Yearsley: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: I hadn't heard anything of that discussion before, but I have thoughts on that,
and an HOA can cover a lot of different things, whether it's the maintenance of a road or
a swimming pool or a park I mean from my perspective maintaining a road isn't any
different than anything else within the subdivision and so I'm not the least bit afraid of
turning that roadway over to the -- the HOA that will be responsible to maintain it,
because it's like any other part of the subdivision that is of common interest. So, that's
my thoughts on that.
Yearsley: Thank you. So, anymore comments?
Marshall: Yeah. I have to agree that that will be a rather expensive item and you're
talking some very very small, lower end houses, because these are not going to be
people with a lot of money. And it can be rather expensive to maintain that. I do
appreciate that. Then, again, that's a very good point, that that -- that would be a
serious burden and I would prefer to see that as a public street, but there is no way it
can be with the lots the way they are. You will not be able to build on them if you put a
41 foot right of way in there as it is. You're right, you would have to make that center
aisle a -- some type of park or something like that. But, then, at that point -- at that point
you're talking considerable infrastructure, too. Is anybody even going to be able to
move forward with this at that point, because that makes it either have -- makes fewer
lots to sell and considerable additional cost would be very difficult.
Yearsley: That's for sure. So, at this time I would entertain a motion.
Rohm: You have those numbers, Joe.
Marshall: I'm going to hope that our citizens are a little more informed when they
purchase and somehow we can require that -- that they are aware of the fact that they
would be required to maintain that road when they purchase here, because, otherwise,
this is not going to develop. It's just not going to. After considering all staff, applicant,
and public testimony, I move to recommend approval of file number PP 13-002 as
presented in the staff report for the hearing date of April 4th, 2013, with the following
modifications: That 1.1.2 be stricken, as well as 1.1.7 be modified to -- as staff has
recommended in their brief here.
Rohm: Second.
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Yearsley: I have a motion and a second for the approval of public hearing PP -- or PP
13-002, Bellabrook Villas. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Nay. Motion carries.
Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE NAY. ONE ABSENT.
B. Public Hearing: RZ 13-003 807 N. Meridian Road by LTD, LLC
Located at 807 N. Meridian Road Request: Rezone of 0.74 of an
Acre from the R-8 (Medium Density Residential) to the O-T (Old
Town) Zoning District
Yearsley: Next item on the agenda is public hearing RZ 13-003, 807 N. Meridian Road.
We would like to start off with the staff report.
Wafters: Thank you, Chairman, Members of the Commission. The next application
before you is a request for a rezone. This site consists of .47 of an acre of land. It's
currently zoned R-8 and is located at 807 North Meridian Road. Adjacent land uses and
zoning. To the north is single family residential property zoned R-8. To the east is
Meridian Road and property owned by Quest and Church of the Harvest, zoned O-T.
To the south is West Idaho Avenue and single family residential property zoned R-8.
And to the west is single family residential property zoned R-8. A little history on this
site. The property owner states that this property has been used for a variety of
nonresidential uses and believes it was converted from a residence in the late 1970s.
The property is currently being used as an office, which is classified as a professional
service. The planning and building divisions have no records of this property being
approved for nonresidential purposes. Assuming the commercial use of the property,
including the parking lot design and landscaping lawfully existed prior to the effective
date of the UDC, the use would be considered nonconforming, as it does not conform to
current UDC standards. The applicant is requesting a rezone of .47 of an acre of land
from R-8 to the Old Town, consistent with the future land use map designation of Old
Town. Approval of the rezone will change the status of the use to a conforming use as
professional services are a principal permitted use in the Old Town district. However,
because a certificate of zoning compliance does exist for this site, a certificate of zoning
compliance will be required on a change of use in the future, which will involve
improvements to the parking lot to comply with current UDC standards. With a new
tenant a certificate of occupancy may also be required to insure compliance with
Americans With Disabilities accessibility standards and occupancy classification. The
property has one access via Idaho Avenue that leads to the parking area on the west
side of the lot. Access is not proposed or approved via Meridian Road. Because the
structure was constructed in 1905, according to the tax assessor's records, staff did
send a memo to the historical preservation commission notifying them of this request.
They did not verbally express any concerns at the meeting, nor have they submitted any
comments on the application. The Comprehensive Plan future land use map
designation for the site is Old Town. The zoning is consistent with that. Written
testimony has been received from Matt Hart, the applicant's representative in
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agreement with the staff report. Staff is recommending approval. Staff will stand for
any questions the Commission may have.
Yearsley: Thank you. Are there any questions?
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Yearsley: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: I just have one. What happens if they hadn't ever made this application and just
went on using it just as they are currently using it, would the city -- what could the city
do?
Wafters: Chairman Yearsley, Commissioner Rohm, the city currently looks at the
property, the use, as a nonconforming use. It should have a certificate of zoning
compliance. It does not. That's why staff is requiring that upon a change of use that
they come in and get that and bring the parking up to standards. Their parking is paved
at the rear of the building. It does not have striping. Staff has some doubts about it
being able to meet our current standards so far as drive aisle dimensions, parking stall
dimensions, you know, all of that.
Rohm: Well, that's kind of where I'm going with this is it sounds like the more you stir it
the worse it gets and --
Wafters: My projects are a little difficult tonight.
Rohm: Yeah, they are. I agree.
Wafters: Well, we are kind of trying to bring it up to current standards and, you know,
it's been a nonresidential use for so long it's -- you know, we are trying to get it up to
where it needs to be, but there are some difficulties with the existing site and its design.
Rohm: Thank you.
Wafters: Well, I don't know that I answered your question.
Rohm: No. You did fine.
Chatterton: Mr. Chairman and Commissioner Rohm, I think one of the issues before
you is is this an appropriate land use. Is this an appropriate zoning district for this
parcel. There are lots of ways to come into compliance. It might be difficult, but I think
the main issue is is this an appropriate zoning district for this parcel.
Rohm: Thank you.
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Yearsley: Thank you. Would the applicant like to come forward? Please state your
name and address for the record, please.
Hart: My name is Matt Hart. I'm with Civil Survey Consultants here in Meridian. We
are located at 1400 East Water Tower. I don't have much more to add to this other than
we are in agreement with staffs findings and we appreciate their recommendation for
approval. I'm here if -- if the Commission has any questions for me.
Rohm: I just have a comment. I sincerely appreciate you folks moving forward and
making an application to make this parcel part of a zone that actually matches the use
and, you know, at the end of the day that's what we are all after and so I applaud you for
even making the application and thank you for working with staff so well and as long as
the applicant and staff are in agreement that's a pretty good step forward. Thank you.
Hart: Thank you.
Yearsley: Any other questions? Thank you very much. I have nobody signed up to
testify. Is there anybody in the audience that would like to testify on this? If not I would
entertain a motion to close public hearing RZ 13-003.
Marshal: So moved.
Miller: Second.
Yearsley: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing RZ 13-003. All in
favor say aye. Opposed. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Yearsley: Comments? If no -- I don't have any issues with this. I think it's a good use,
a good, you know, option to go with. So, with that I would entertain a motion.
Rohm: I can do this one I think.
Yearsley: All right.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Yearsley: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to recommend
approval to the City Council of file number RZ 13-003 as presented in the staff report for
the hearing date of April 4th, 2013, for the following reasons that the use is in
accordance with the proposed rezoning and that's what we are all after. So, I
recommend approval.
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Miller: Second.
Yearsley: I have a motion and a second for approval of public hearing RZ 13-003, 807
Meridian Road. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
C. Public Hearing: CUP 13-002 Gramercy Pride Apartments by
Sagecrest Development, LLC Located 2111 and 2283 S.
Accolade Avenue Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval
for 18 Multi-Family Dwelling Units on Two (2) Lots on
Approximately 1.38 Acres in an Existing R-15 Zoning District
Yearsley: At this time we'd like to open the public hearing for -- let me -- I don't have a
-- CUP 13-002 and MDA 13-004, Gramercy Pride Apartments. We'd like to start with
the staff report.
Parsons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. The next and last
item on the agenda this evening -- it shouldn't be as painful as the previous two Ihope --
is the Gramercy Pride apartment complex. It is two residential lots currently zoned R-15
within the Gramercy development. The site is located south of East Overland Road and
located on the west side of South Accolade Avenue, which is a local street here and
currently constructed. These lots were created back in 2006 with the Gramercy project.
Originally these parcels were envisioned for a condominium, which were basically -- it
looked like they were townhome elevations. The applicant is here tonight proposing a
multi-family development. Currently to the north we have some vacant commercial
properties and some commercial residential properties zoned C-G and R-15. To the
east we have a 48 unit multi-family development as well. Vacant townhome lots and
constructed single family homes. All these parcels are zoned R-15 as well. To the
south we have a city park and, then, to the west we have a high school zoned R-4. If
you recall, this portion of land, which is to the east of the two subject properties has
been approved fora 276 unit multi-family development and that's currently into the city
for permitting. One thing that I did point out in the staff report currently Wells Avenue is
the only connectivity to this -- all of this residential to the south here. With the approval
of this project the applicant was to provide a secondary emergency access that is to tie
into this street. So, this development as it moves forward and these larger
developments as they move forward will have secondary access out of this portion of
the development, so we are not landlocked just with South Wells Avenue moving
forward. Here is the site plan before you this evening. Again, it is two parcels. The
north parcel, which is Lot 9, Block 3, as a ten unit apartment complex on it. Lot 26,
Block 3 has an eight unit apartment complex on it. The proposed site plans before you
tonight have been modified from the version that you saw in the staff report. The
applicant has taken it upon themselves to address all the conditions that staff placed on
the project and the site plan before you represents those changes as recommended by
staff. I'd point out those changes quickly to you. The first one is the connectivity to the
adjacent pathways. The applicant has made the connectivity to the pathways to the
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north here along Lot 9 and, then, for Lot 26 connected to the pathways here and, then,
also tied into the five foot sidewalk that connects to the park, which is along the south
boundary here. The trash enclosures have been relocated per our recommendations in
the staff report. I would report to you that the applicant has received verbal confirmation
from Republic Services that they approve their new location of those trash enclosures.
So, that issue has been resolved as well. The sidewalk has been widened from six feet
to seven feet, so there is -- although minimal, additional buffering along the south
boundary here along the residential lot and, then, along the north boundary here the
applicant has actually shifted the multi-family building to the south a little bit further and
actually increased this buffer by at least almost nine feet in width. So, there is actually
more buffering on this side to get the parking moved away from future single family
homes as well. This property is designated as mixed use regional on the future land
use map. Densities are anticipated between six and 40 units to the acre. The proposed
projects before you this evening come in at 13 units to the acre, which is less than
what's anticipated, but given the amount of multi-family that's planned in there and what
amount of additional single family homes could be developed in the site staff anticipates
roughly 20 to 22 units to the acre in the future once this is built out. Here is the
landscape plan as well. As you can see it's a pretty lush plan. I would mention to
Commission that amenities are pretty low on this site. The applicant has requested that
we them use -- have the right to use the amenities that were constructed with the
Gramercy project. If I can go back to the aerial here I can demonstrate what's existing
right now. Currently there is a multi-use pathway, as I mentioned, along the north
boundary and the west boundary here. This is Gordon Harris Park, which a portion of
this development -- this developer has donated a portion of that property to the public
park and, then, you also have the land -- the ten foot pathway along the Ridenbaugh
Canal. The developer also established this plaza area and this open space as well.
Staff is amenable to the applicant's request. They just have to provide documentation
that they have the right to use these amenities. That also was prefaced in staffs
condition requiring that connection to those pathways. Again, that helps link this
development to the amenities in this subdivision. It provides that connectivity to the
park, to the school site, to the commercial to the north along Overland Road. So, again,
staff is supportive of the applicant's request to use those existing amenities. I'd also
mention to you we did require additional bike parking for this site given the amount of
connectivity and pathways in the area and it just makes sense to -- folks living here will
probably bike more than drive their cars, at least that's the vision for the site. So, we
actually enforce a greater provision and require one bike space per the number of units
on the property. So, the applicant has gone ahead and added that bike parking, so the
north lot, which is Lot 9 again, has the ten bike park located in this vicinity and this
portion was required to provide eight bike parks and that's located here. So, the one
thing that I did want to mention to you is this site currently doesn't meet the covered
parking standards. In the staff -- if you recall last P&Z hearing we are in the process of
amending our ordinance to reduce the amount of covered parking required. Staff did
build a condition in the staff report that they would have to provide the amount of
covered parking with -- in accord with the ordinance in effect at the time that they submit
the certificate of zoning -- zoning compliance. We envision I think April 23rd that UDC
text amendment is before Council. Because this conditional use permit is going forward
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with a development agreement modification, that UDC text amendment will precede this
application before Council. Staff is confident that this site -- that UDC text amendment
will probably be approved, but if it isn't, again, they will have to comply with the --
whatever the ordinance is in effect at that time. Get to these proposed elevations here.
Excuse me. These are typical of what you see out there back in 2009 with the
Gramercy 48 unit apartment complex. The proposed structures have a mix of building
materials. You're looking at lap siding, .board and batten, stucco finish with stone
wainscoting. This -- the left building here -- the building on the left here is -- the
structure proposed for Lot 9, which is the northern parcel, the building here on the right
is for the -- Lot 26, which is the southern parcel, again, similar architecture to what's out
there given the -- the proposed architecture also mimics the single family homes in the
area as well. Staff is amenable and recommends the proposed structures to you.
would mention if you take a look at this portion of the elevation here staff is
recommending that this pop out on the single story level to provide some more -- a
difference in building material and stone wainscot just to tie back into this portion of the
building. If you look at the front elevation you can see they tied in a covered entry here
or covered pop out with some stucco accents. It just seems to blend a little bit better, so
staff is making a recommendation that they provide a mix of materials and stones
wainscot on this pop out. They kind of match -- blend in better with that back facade or
the west facade along the pathway there as well. Staff has received written comments
from the applicant. They are in agreement with the conditions in the staff report. To
staff's knowledge there aren't any other outstanding issues before you and at this time
I'd stand for any questions you have.
Yearsley: Thank you. Are there any questions?
Marshall: Yeah. Bill, can we go back to the plat again? Excuse me, Mr. Chair.
should ask.
Yearsley: Commissioner Marshall, you're fine.
Marshall: The lots in between these two lots -- I thought for a minute you said they were
commercial, but they are single family residential; right?
Parsons: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, that is correct. They are out of
court single family detached homes.
Marshall: Now, have those been built up? This aerial is rather old I think. I remember
seeing this exact one when we saw the other apartments there. Have any of those
houses built in?
Parsons: At this time there are no single family homes present or constructed..
Marshall: Or down on the south side.
Parsons: Correct. This portion is built out.
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Marshall: Right. And those are the only single family residential homes in the whole
area are the ones that are back to back there that are built out at this time. Thank you.
Yearsley: Any other comments? Thank you. Could we have the applicant come
forward. Please state your name and address for the record, please.
McKay: Becky McKay. Engineering Solutions. 1029 North Rosario, Meridian.
Business address. I'm representing Mr. Hunemiller on this particular project. As Bill
indicated, we brought forth the Gramercy Apartments, which was 48 units kind of in a
horseshoe shape. I did give Bill some photographs that were taken last year of right
after they landscaped the site for the Commission to take a look, how nice it turned out,
the landscaping, the buildings, the architecture really blends. The residents that -- that
we met with that live out there in the single family dwellings have complimented the
buildings, said they are great. They are luxury apartments. They are higher end. And
they filled up within just a matter of like two months of completion. So, Mr. Hunemiller --
these.two lots became available. I brought a conditional use application through. We
were going to do some condominiums that kind of looked like townhomes. We had
some problems with getting the 20 foot drive pad or the -- the pad in front of the garage
and, then, meeting the requirement for the access in between. So, it was kind of
abandoned. However, the -- obviously, the -- the elevations were tied to the
development agreement modification that went through at that time, so we are here this
evening to ask for a modification of that development agreement to tie these elevations,
these site plans, to the project and, obviously, approve the conditional use permit. We
are I think 13 dwellings units per acre. So, these lots are R-15. They were always
intended to be some type of multi-family, you know, larger building and we think that this
is a good fit. It's going to mesh just right across the street with that architecture and we
tried to provide, you know, quite a bit of landscaping and buffering as much as we
possibly could. Yeah. That's -- there is -- Bill -- yeah. You can see the horseshoe one
with the 48 units. The only homes that are constructed out there are the detached
single family to the east. The courtyard lots have not been constructed on. So,
obviously, any home buyer -- these units will go in prior to that. Our client intends on
constructing that this summer. You're a real Google wizard.
Parsons: It's not getting much street view, though.
McKay: We are -- we are in agreement with all the conditions and I'd be glad to answer
any questions.
Yearsley: Any questions?
Miller: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Miller.
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Miller: I have a question on the covered parking. I didn't see the elevations or anything,
other than it was noted that it was going to be a similar construction. Is this just a
pitched -- covered kind of like that horseshoe development?
McKay: Yes. The client indicated he would do the same kind of a powder coated,
colored, you know, with a similar roof line. We initially when we applied showed covers
on all of our parking spaces, but now since the code's being altered I thought, you know,
maybe it will be better to have the covered away from the building and the uncovered
toward the building. So, I think people always fight over the parking right in front of the
building and so there would be an advantage to being across under the cover. And,
then, it also enhances the looks of the building when you don't have a carport in front --
right in front of it.
Yearsley: Thank you. Any other questions?
Marshall: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Marshall.
Marshall: Becky, do you foresee those single family residential houses building up in
between these eventually?
McKay: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Marshall, yes, they have been purchased by
Corey Barton Homes. So -- and Mr. Barton has constructed the homes along that one
street and I think he's probably kind of waiting for the right time and the right moment
that that product, obviously, will be marketable. You know, we are seeing that the -- the
nontraditional alley load lots, courtyard lots, those are kind of lagging behind your more
standard front load single family as far as development in the valley and build out and
so I think he's probably kind of holding onto those. He has some alley load lots in
another development that he's doing the same thing.
Marshall: Thank you.
Yearsley: I actually have a question. Bill, will you go to the landscaping plan. On that
-- that south property, the parking, actually, will face those homes; is that not correct?
The homes to the north. What -- I see just a couple of trees. Is there going to be a
fence there as well?
McKay: We could install a fence. That would be their rear yards.
Yearsley: I would think that that would be -- to help block any lights coming into the
backyards and stuff like that be a nice neighbor effect on that, so --
McKay: Oh. And we did -- we did shift the building further south. That -- the
landscaped stripe increased by nine feet, so that's the one that we shifted the buildings.
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We thought that the buffer made -- increasing the buffer north made more sense than
south where it's open space.
Yearsley: Right.
McKay: So, as you can see we significantly increased that.
Yearsley: I was kind of concerned, because I'm assuming as cars pulled in they will
have their headlights shining into the backyards and -- or onto those buildings to the
neighbors to the north. So, that's why I was just trying to be --
McKay: Yeah. You know, they could plant additional trees there for -- to, obviously,
buffer the headlights or install a fence.
Yearsley: Okay. So, that's all I have. Thank you.
McKay: Thank you.
Yearsley: I have no one signed up and no one in the audience, so at this point I will
stand for a motion to close the public hearing.
Miller: So moved.
Marshall: Second.
Yearsley: I have a motion and a second to close CUP -- the public hearing for CUP 13-
003, Gramercy Pride Apartments. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Marshall: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Marshall.
Marshall: I'm a little disappointed in our number of neighbors here like there were with
the last time. Last time there was -- we had a lot of conversation going and I think most
people that have served anytime on the Commission know that I'm very pro apartments.
I like apartments and I like them -- I think -- I like the mixed use and things like that. But
to be honest, this project feels really disjointed to me. It feels like split personality. I
almost feel like the houses there are going to feel like -- they are going to be in the
middle of an apartment complex and I -- I'm not liking that feeling. I really would like to
have seen it go to the condos -- some kind of townhouses or condos, some mix -- it
wouldn't have to be single family residential, but some mixes in there and I really think it
would have flowed much better. This feels like I have got houses and just everything's
kind of piecemeal and it doesn't feel right to me, to be honest and I -- I appreciate the
fact that those houses in between these buildings have not been built, nobody's
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purchased them yet, and if they were to they would know what they are getting into. But
I mean one thing that we are really looking for is this sense of neighborhood, sense of
community, sense of belonging and if I lived in this neighborhood I'm not sure what I
would feel like I belonged to. I think I would be lost in the middle of apartments on an
island and I wouldn't feel like community. I'd feel that if they had gone to condos or
something like that I would feel like I'm one of the many different types here and we are
all kind of in this together. But having the great big three story apartments all around --
you know, huge in front of me and now on the side and now up here and, then, just
some single family houses in between, Idon't -- I'm not fond of it. I really am not.
think there is going to be people really losing a sense of community in there and I think
they would have been very appropriate for condos or something smaller, a little smaller
scale that would have been something in between the apartments and the houses. But
don't think apartments -- great big huge apartments -- because your -- it's -- I think the
houses are going to get lost in it.
Yearsley: Thank you. Any other comments?
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Yearsley: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: I concur that those single family dwellings are going to be dwarfed by all the
apartments, but the fact that the existing apartments that have already been constructed
have been so well received and filled up so rapidly and this is really a continuation of
that same theme, I -- 1 think that this is appropriate for the -- the parcels in this request
and my suspicions are that those ten residential lots that are sandwiched between these
two parcels may come back to us with a different look at some point in time in the future
or may or may not, but they will stand on their own and the fact of the matter is the
existing apartments have all been well received and this is -- this is a continuation of
that theme and I'm pretty much in support of the application as it stands.
Yearsley: Thank you.
Miller: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Commissioner Miller.
Miller: Just some comments. 1 agree with the development. I don't feel like it feels too
awkward. I feel like the courtyard lots are kind of a different animal anyways and they
will kind of attract their own person that wants to live in a space like that and I think
there is a market for that. I agree that the success of these other apartments states that
there is a demand for this and, then, that -- the lots in between can be whatever they
need to be otherwise. But I don't feel like it's foreign. Just my personal opinion. I like
the development. I like where it's at in relation to the public parks, that it's tied into that
and also using other spaces and just kind of making a total use of the area and I think
that this accomplishes that for sure.
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Yearsley: Thank you. So, at this point I would entertain a motion.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Yearsley: Commissioner Yearsley.
Rohm: After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to approve file
number CUP 13-002 and MDA 13-004 as presented in the staff report for the hearing
date of April 4th, 2013, with no modifications.
Miller: Second.
Yearsley: I have a motion and a second to approve CUP 13-003 and -- do you have
that?
Parsons: Mr. Chair?
Yearsley: Yes.
Parsons: I'm sorry to interrupt. You're not approving anything tonight, you're still
recommending approval --
Yearsley: Okay. Recommending approval.
Parsons: -- approval, because there is a DA modification associated with this
application.
Yearsley: Okay. All right. I have a motion and a second to approve the -- recommend
approval of CUP 13-002 and MDA 13-004. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion
carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Yearsley: Thank you. So, at this point we have one last motion to make.
Rohm: 1 move we adjourn.
Miller: Second.
Yearsley: I have a motion and a second to adjourn. All in favor say aye. Motion
carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:13 P.M.
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DATE: April 4, 2013 ITEM NUMBER: 4A
PROJECT NUMBER: PP 13-002
ITEM TITLE: Bellabrook Villas (aka Brookside Square)
Continued Public Hearing from 3/21 /13: Preliminary Plat approval consisting of 26 single-
family residential building lots and 4 common/other lots on 4.38 acres of land in an R-15
zoning district by ZWJ Properties, LLC - 300 S. Locust Grove Road
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DATE: April 4, 2013 ITEM NUMBER: 4g
PROJECT NUMBER: RZ 13-003
ITEM TITLE: 807 N. Meridian Road
Public Hearing: Rezone of 0.47 of an acre from the R-8 (Medium density residential) to the
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PROJECT NUMBER: CUP 13-002
ITEM TITLE: Gramercy Pride Apartments
Public Hearing -Conditional use permit for 18multi-family dwelling units on two lots on
approximately 1.38 acres in an existing R-15 zoning district by Sagecrest Development,
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