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CITY COUNCIL REGULAR
MEETING AGENDA
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 at 7:00 PM
1. Roll-Call Attendance
David Zaremba Brad Hoaglun
Charlie Rountree Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
2. Pledge of Allegiance (Pg. 1)
3. Community Invocation: Pastor Tim Pusey, Valley Shepherd Nazarene
(Pg. 1-2)
4. Adoption of the Agenda (Pg. 2)
5. Consent Agenda (Pg. 2-3)
A. Approve Minutes of January 25, 2011 City Council Special
Meeting
B. Approve Minutes of February 8, 2011 City Council Workshop
Meeting
C. Approve Minutes of February 15, 2011 City Council Special
Meeting
D. Approve Minutes of February 15, 2011 City Council Regular
Meeting
E. Advertising Contract on Behalf of Meridian Arts Commission
for Missoula Children's Theater Advertisement in Treasure
Valley Family Magazine for aNot-to-Exceed Amount of $170.00
F. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Approval: AZ 10-005
Ada County Highway District (ACRD) Ten Mile Annexation by
City of Meridian Public Works Department Located Southwest
Corner of W. Ustick Road and N. Ten Mile Road Request:
Annexation and Zoning of 1.50 Acres of Land From R1 (Ada
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County) to R-4 (Medium Low-Density Residential) Zoning
District
6. Community Items/Presentations
A. Fairview Avenue Access Management Plan and Concept
Design Update by Lisa Applebee, Project Manager at Ada
County Highway District (ACRD) (Pg. 5-18)
7. Items Moved From Consent Agenda
8. Department Reports
A. Mayor's Office: Mayor's Youth Advisory Council (MYAC)
Update (Pg. 3-5)
B. Mayor's Office: Resolution No.
Reappointing Nancy Rountree to Meridian Arts Commission,
Seat 1 (Pg. 19)
9. Action Items
A. Public Hearing: Community Development Block Grant (CDBG)
PY08 Substantial Amendment (Pg. 19-22)
B. Public Hearing: CPAM 10-001 Waverly Place by Robert
Mortensen, Mountain West Entrust IRA/FBO Located at 2510 E.
Magic View Drive: Request: Amendment to the Comprehensive
Plan Future Land Use Map to Change the Land Use
Designation on 4.9 Acres of Land from Office to Medium
Density Residential (Pg. 23-33)
C. Public Hearing: RZ 10-004 Waverly Place by Robert Mortensen,
Mountain West Entrust IRA/FBO Located at 2150 E. Magic View
Drive: Request: Rezone of 5.17 Acres of Land from L-O
(Limited Office) to R-8 (Medium Density Residential) Zone
(Pg. 33)
D. Public Hearing: PP 10-003 Waverly Place by Robert Mortensen,
Mountain West Entrust IRA/FBO Located at 2150 E. Magic View
Drive: Request: Preliminary Plat Approval of 24 Residential
Building Lots and 4 Common Lots on 4.9 Acres of Land in a
Proposed R-8 Zoning District (Pg. 33)
10. Continued Department Reports
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A. Mayor's Office: City Survey Discussion and Acceptance
(Pg. 34-37)
B. Planning Department: Ada County Highway District's (ACRD)
Five Year Work Plan Including an Adoption Draft Discussion
and Possible Endorsement (Pg. 37-40)
11.
C. Planning Department: Discuss Communities in Motion (CIM)
The Region's Long-Range Transportation Plan (Pg. 41-44)
D. Police Department Report: Precious Metal Dealers Licensing
and Regulation; Discussion of Draft Ordinance (Pg. 44-50)
Ordinances
A. Ordinance No. 11-1472A: Updates to Title 2, Meridian City
Code Regarding the Traffic Safety Commission and Planning &
Zoning Commission (Pg. 51)
12. Future Meeting Topics (Pg. 51)
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~^ Meridian City Council Meeting February 22, 2011
A meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order
at 7.00 p.m., Tuesday,
February 22, 2011, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Brad Hoa lun Davi
g d Zaremba and Charlie
Rountree.
Members Absent: Keith Bird.
Others Present: Bill Nary, Jaycee Holman, Anna Cannin Caleb Hood '
. g, ,Rich Dees,
Mike de St. Germain, Bill Johnson, Robert Simison, and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
. X David Zaremba X Brad Hoa lun
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__X___ Charlie Rountree _____Keith Bird
,_X Mayor Tammy de UVeerd
De Weerd: I would like to welcome you all here this evenin .Thank ou f r' ' '
. g y o joining us.
For the public record it is Tuesday, February 22nd. It's 7:00 .m. We will
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~. meeting with roll call attendance.
Item 2: Pledge of Allegiance -Troop 138 Locust Grove Ward
De Weerd: Thank you. Item No. 2 is our Pled a of Alle lance. Toni ht we will
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in the pledge by Troop 138. They are with the Locust Grove Ward. The will co
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forward and, then, they will instruct us on what we need to do.
(Pledge of Allegiance.)
De Weerd: If I could ask you two to come forward, I have two Cit of Meridian in
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give you for leading us tonight. Thank you.
Rountree: How about a candy bar? That's better than a in.
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Item 3: Communit Invocation: Pastor S
Y tephanie Moore with Ten Mile
Christian Church
De Weerd: He always tries to one up me. Item No. 3 is our communit invocation.
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Tonight we will be led by Stephanie Moore. She's with Ten Mile Christian Church. If
you will all join us in the community invocation or take this as an o ortunit for a
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moment of reflection. Thank you for joining us.
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~"`~~ Moore: Our God, we thank you for this evenin . W
. g e thank you for the commitment of
our City Council members and of the members of the
community to the well being of
this city and its surrounding area. God, we ask for
your presence and your guidance
and your blessing on this meeting so that the items on th '
e agenda will be cared for
quickly and well and will serve the interest of all who are in
volved to the very best of
their ability. In Jesus' name we pray, amen.
Item 4: Adoption of the Agenda
De Weerd: Thank you. Item No. 4 is ado tion of the a ends.
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Hoaglun: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Just a couple items to note. On toni ht's a en
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presentations, Item 6, we would like to move up Item 8-A and et the Ma '
. g yors Youth
Advisory Council update a little sooner, so that could be ut ri ht h
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Fairview Avenue. Some excuse about homework or somethin I'
g ike that they have got
to get to, but -- so, we will move that up if that's oka with eve one. A '
Y ry Iso, under eight --
Item 8-B, Department Reports, that resolution number is 11-772.
And, then, under Item
11, Ordinances, there was a typo on the first a enda. There was
g a two and that should
,~~, been a four, so that is, as published now, Ordinance No. 11-1474
. A. So, since we are
updating an ordinance it has to be four. So, I think that is all we h '
ave. So, with that,
Madam Mayor, I move adoption of tonight's a enda.
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Rountree: Second.
Zaremba: Second,
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to ado t the a enda as sta '
p g ted. All those in
favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 5: Consent Agenda
A. Approve Minutes of January 25, 2011 Cit Council S ecial
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Meeting
B. Approve Minutes of February 8, 2011 Cit Council Worksho
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Meeting
C. Approve Minutes of February 15, 2011 Cit Council S ecial
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Meeting
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''~``~ D. Approve Minutes of Februa 15
. ry , 2011 City Council Regular
Meeting
E. Advertising Contract on Behalf of Meridian Arts '
Commission
for Missoula Children's Theater Advertisement in Treas
ure
Valley Family Magazine for aNot-to-Exceed Amount of 1
$ 70.00
F. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for A royal: -
. pp AZ 10 005
Ada County Highway District (ACHD~ Ten Mile Annexation
. by
City of Meridian Public Works Department Located Southwe
st
Corner of W, Ustick Road and N. Ten Mile Road Re uest:
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Annexation and Zoning of 1.50 Acres of Land From R1 Ada
County) to R-4 (Medium Low-Densi Residential Zonin
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District
De Weerd: Item 5, Consent Agenda.
Hoaglun: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun:
Hoaglun: There were no changes on toni ht's Consent A enda so I
g g move approval of
the Consent Agenda and the Mayor to sign and Clerk to attest.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to a rove the Consent A
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no discussion, Madam Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, absent; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, ea~ Hoa lun• ea.
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De Weerd: All Ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 8: Department Reports
A. Mayor's office: Mayor's Youth Advisor Council MYAC
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Update
De Weerd: Okay. As stated in amending our agenda we will move Item 8-A to --
. 6 to
above 6-A. So, if Janelle would like to come forward. Thank ou for bein here toni
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J.de Weerd: State my name and address?
De Weerd: Your name is good.
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J.de Weerd: Okay. I'm Janelle de Weerd and I'm from M
ayor s Youth Advisory Council.
So, basically, this last month we had I Hite Youth when -- '
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and a really good turn out, especial) for the first ear
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presentations and I think it was definitely a close tie between those r '
co i p esentat~ons. Also
m ng up in March is the MYAC dinner auction. We will be benefitin
.. g the Idaho --
Meridian Senior Center and that will be March 24th and ti '
ckets are selling for 20 dollars
per person and, then, if you want to sponsor a table it will be 150 and tho '
wi se will come
th us promoting your business and showin our s onsors for '
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with the recent passing of smoke free parks, as I'm ho in ou
p g y guys all remember, we
are going to be planning akick-off event for that. We are oin to be usin
g g g our STAND
grant that we got from American Lung Association, so we are ho in
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on one of the Optimists football -- or PAL soccer -- 'ust one of tho
J se days at Settlers
Park, so we can use that sports complex to brin eo le in for
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the kids sports, because that's who we did it for obvious) . A '
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information. We haven t set a date or an thin and we will r '
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Monday. Other than that we are sendin out a oster com etiti '
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for creating a drug free -- or tobacco free oster and that wi '
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notification cards for those people who are in the arks to fet t
. p hem know of the new
ordinance and Just a question for you u s. When will that o '
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Mayor?
:~ De Weerd: Mr. Nary?
Nary: Turning on my mike. Madam Ma or, Members of the Coun ' '
Y cil, I believe in the --
in the resolution I think it was effective immediate) I think th '
y, a effective date for the
parks, though, was the 1st of March, because think the have toe '
y g t signs ordered, get
signs put up, so I think that s -- that s the target and Mr. Siddowa isn't here toni
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I think that was what the discussion was and I think that's wha
t the parks target date
was.
J.de Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
De Weerd: The signs have to be up before it can be enforced.
J.de Weerd: Okay. So, yeah, we will be plannin that either late Mar h '
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the weather will be warmer and people will actual) want to come. So
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thats the main things we are working on. But if ou u s are intereste ' '
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out to the MYAC dinner auction, because I know that the students are worki
ng really
hard to get some awesome auction items.
De Weerd: That's great. Hey, Janelle, can ou tell us on -- are ou inv I '
Y y o ved in the
Mayor sAnti-Drug Coalition PSA contest?
J.de Weerd: Yes. The MADC is doing another PSA contest. Instead of a '
visual one or
a video they will be radio PSAs and lucky, the DJ, will actual) be one of th '
y e Judges for
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r''~, those and the winning broad -- or the winnin PSA w' '
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station reaching -- I think it was like 150,000 listeners a we
ek or something Ike that.
So, that will be really awesome. We are oin to se
.. g g e where we can fit that in, so
definitely we will be bringing that up in the next -- in then
ext meeting and also coming
up on the agenda is the driving while textin -- or distracted dri ' '
9 ving bill that Marv
Hagadorn -- Representative Marv Ha adorn is introducin '
9 g, so we will be testifying on
our part of the text while driving. I mean, of course, the bill still has a I '
. of of kinks in it, so
we dust need to read over that and send our view on what we a ree with.
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De Weerd: Council, any questions?
Hoaglun: No.
De Weerd: Janelle, do you want to ex lain what I Hite Youth w ?
p g as all about .
J.de Weerd: Ignite Youth is havin 20 slides in five minut
. 9 es to explain anything you
want and so we -- this was the first time ever that ~t has been for 'us
. ~ t youth. There has
been Ignite Boise, Ignite Seattle -- I don't remember where i
tall started, but we are the
first city to ever do Ignite Youth and the winner of to -- '
g got a big trophy and got
promoted to do it at Ignite Boise, I believe, as well as we told a
pother one of the
students that they should definitely present their resentation
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basically, what it is and that will be an annual thin that we w' '
g ill be having for the next
years, because it was a very successful event.
De Weerd: Thank you.
J.de Weerd: Thank you.
De Weerd: It's always great to hang out with our outh council '
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ideas, the free-flowing dialogue that happens as art of that. So th ' '
p ank you for giving us
a report.
Item 6: Community ItemslPresentations
A. Fairview Avenue Access Mana ement Plan an
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Design Update by Lisa Applebee, Project Mana er at Ada
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De Weerd: Okay. Our first Community Presentation Item 6-A is the F ' '
airview Avenue
Access Management Plan and Concept Desi n and I will turn this over to
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Hood: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. I'm 'ust oin
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couple of minutes at the beginning of this --and ma be not even that Ion a cou I
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seconds to dust introduce Lisa Applebee. She is the pro'ect mana er at the Ada Coun
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and I know she has some --some slides to run throu h with ou some u dates
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look at the acket for this agenda item and she
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will be working primarily from that and at t p .
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come back and depending .
im lement this at the city level and the implications it
with the Council on how we may p
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discussion at the end of Lisa's presentation.
De Weerd: So, is this 20 slides in five minutes?
Applebee: Pretty much.
De Weerd: Thank you for being here.
Rountree: Ignite Fairview.
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rchard on the east end, to Linder on the west or -- west end. Let me make sure I get
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District decided that we wanted to put the study on hold, but we would co p
access mana ement Ian. We have a policy committee for the project and that includes
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then two commissioners as well. That committee recommended that we go back out to
the ublic for more in ut on the access management plan before we ask the
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commission or either council to adopt the plan. The commission agreed to that and we
took out an information brochure to about 31,000 addresses within a mile either side of
the corridor. We asked people to fill out an electronic survey or either hard copy if they
needed that and we also provided a three dimensional visualization on our project
web a e. Since that mailing went out we received 327 responses to the survey out of
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the 31,000 sent out. Twenty-two of those were businesses. Tonight I d like to present
some of the res onses to the survey, as well as talk about our next steps. We'd like to
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take the results of the survey and the information we have gathered to the public and,
then, we would come back to both the cities, Boise and Meridian, and the commission
and ask all a encies to adopt the access management plan. Some of the questions in
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the survey we asked -- first one: Do people agree .with access management on
Fairview? We pretty much had an overwhelming response of agree. Now, on the
business side it was about an 18 percent agreement from our 22 business respondents.
Have to look at my statistics here as well on the next question. On question two we
asked what our focus should be and they pretty much said traffic flow and safety and
that's what we had envisioned the plan would address. Question three. Do people use
alternate routes and uite a number said yes and on question four we asked why they
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used alternate routes. Pretty much congestion and safety. Question five we asked do
eople shop at the alternate destinations. That was a mixed response. Of course,
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businesses pretty much said, no, they shop along Fairview. And we asked if people
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had concerns about implementing access management on Fairview and a lot of people
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' were medians causing congestion. Having enough
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-turns and then, businesses were very concerned abou
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business access. That was the
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specific to the businesses.
if the had more than one access point. It was pretty mixed
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live trucks havin access to their businesses. So, what does
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attention. And t icall ,businesses have not been supportive of access management,
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after it's been im lemented it has had more favorable responses from business, as well
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as the ublic. As art of the access management plan the Ada County Highway District
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has a ro'ect that would implement some portion or some of the tools of access
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mans ement. Ri ht now that project is scheduled for 2014 construction,- 2015
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construction. What would that look like? Well, the scope of the project. is not fully
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defined but what was envisioned initially was implementing access management tools
such as the medians, the u-turns, and three-quarter movements. Three-quarter
movements would be in between the signals, which are at approximately half mile
s acin s, the si nals, and, then, the three-quarter movements would be somewhere
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around the uarter mile. In the top part of the display here you can see -- does that
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across their property or record over time with redevelopment and development along
Fairview. So, as we move forward with that project to implement access management
we will take some options about the scope to our commissioners and we will ask them
how the 'd like the team to proceed that could include doing the whole eight and a half
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mile corridor, implementing median along that whole corridor or Just about developing
the u-turn pockets along the eight and a half mile corridor. Maybe just addressing the
the safety areas -- areas where we see higher accident rates, just dealing with those
areas first. Or at signalized intersections we could create the u-turn movement, as well
as medians some distance back from the signals. And, then, another option would be
'ust to implement access management tools along -- or in areas where we have enough
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next? I would like to gather your input on both the public output -- or outreach effort and
our comments, as well as the implementation options available. I will take the results
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of the survey to the city of Boise next, as well as the commission. Then, the plan is to
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I would open it up to comments and questions.
Weerd: Thank ou, Lisa. Council, comments or questions?
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Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Rountree.
' ou listed some o tions that were available in terms of medians and
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Initial) we had ut in an amount of money in the program that was a place holder and
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we recent) took a closer look at what it would take to implement the access
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mana ement tools we are talking about right now, the medians, u-turns, and three-
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uarter turn movements mainly and the cost went up significantly compared to the pace
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-- or the lace holder that -- amount we had put in there. So, that, of course, affects our
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don't have a -- a good handle on that scope quite yet, because I think access
mana ement -- implementing access management has a lot of associated issues
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between right of way and business impacts and concerns such as those.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Given that last comment in terms of the scope, not only what, but where, is
there an indication on the part of the commission or the panel that you have put
to ether to look at this where the priority might be? A lot of times it's easiest first, but
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maybe it's -- it's the most unsafe first, so -- have you looked at that?
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the scope. We -- we have thought about doing the whole corridor as sort of -- that was
the team's hi hest ranked initially. I think more realistically we realize that it would be in
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those safet areas that may be first or --and be the easiest areas. And those actually --
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:~~. Rountree: Okay. Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba?
member of the committee, of course, I was on the side
Zaremba. Madam Mayor, as a .. .
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of doing it all at once, but ~ . .
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' miles and miles and the businesses still thrive. You know, the first time
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business eo le but I -- I think we can assuage that to some extent and they shouldnt
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be afraid of this. The safety of their customers is important as well.
DeWeerd: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoa lun: Madam Ma or, Lisa, just to kind of follow up on that, are there sites -- if a
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business erson sa s, ou know, I'm concerned about this. To me it's --you're blocking
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work. I mean what would you suggest that they could take a look at if there ~s anything
right now in place?
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there at Curtis and Fairview. That median at the intersection, extends east and west,
but not very far, maybe less than a quarter of a mile I think.
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is a bus corridor for both the commuters and the businesses and I was hopeful that we
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would use that access management to bring customers or employees to the businesses
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businesses, so they see an exchange. They are losing access, but they are gaining a
another wa to brin customers and employees to their places of business and it made
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a little bit of sense to me. So, I don't know where that was in the discussion, but
certain) that was one of those things that stuck in my mind. The other thing that stuck
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is the concern of the sea of asphalt and as you look at the necessary width of that
orridor and what ou will be takin in exchange to widening that, you lose a lot of that
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A lebee: Madam Mayor, are you asking about the widening and -- widening with
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mans ement, but as ou im rove that corridor to the full build out what happens, are we
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just going to have road, curb, sidewalk and, then, parking lot?
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Id come about the landscaping. Right now the costs that
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what ~s that -- what do
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the realities or econo
But that's still to be determined. And as far as the widening, that
what makes sense.
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De Weerd: Now, ou said you had over 300 responses and did you say 22 of those
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Applebee: Yeah.
De Weerd: Yeah. That's concerning. I agree with what Councilman Hoaglun said. I
would sa that our olice department often calls that turn lane our suicide lane. It is a
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safet as ect, it's a large concern, but access is -- in many cases the .life blood -- the
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blood line of all of our small businesses that are up and down that corridor. So, it will be
important to figure out how to better engage those businesses.
Applebee: Mayor, agreed.
De Weerd: Oka .This isn't a public hearing. Council -- and I do see someone has a
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comment. I would like to recognize Bruce Wong in the very back of the room. He is the
director --the newly appointed director of Ada County Highway District. We appreciate
ou bein here. In particular during this conversation, so you can hear it directly.
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Thank you. Council, any further questions for Lisa?
Zaremba: Madam Mayor, I would have just a comment on the process. I appreciate
the effort that was made to include the Cit of Meridian. Councilman Bird was the other
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' ~ son. It's onl Sabrina. Yes. If you would like to
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Anderson: I do live in Meridian.
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fre uenc because if the are operating in a certain frequency we will know that we will
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be able to have some different takes --different looks. Right now some of your staff has
been involved, at least peripherally in the work that we are doing on State Street we are
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make sure that whatever we are doing
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that we want to take with you all. So, I Just want to
doesn t preclude the next steps
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make sure we fully answe y .
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programmed in 15. So,
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movements at the quarter mile type thing. We can talk about it a little bit more when we
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access management plan and the tools where we start to implement access
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driveway, immediately go to right-in, right-out and over time when we see new
develo ment applications consistent with our current city code, we require no new
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up here and there is a quest .
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want to talk about some next steps for the city particularly. And I will be involved with
those other teams in the next steps and give you -- provide you other updates, too, on
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the chamber has been reached out to yet, so I will take some initiative, probably with
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fitted to the im lementation of an access management
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plan, but, really, our code y p ,
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have you all the Ada Cou y g y
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make those u-turns. So, some of that money -- ~t won t be dust for a center median, but
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mile locations as well. So, definitely larger vehicles are being considered ~n this.
De Weerd: Okay. Anything further from Council?
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Lisa indicated earlier she kind of wanted something from us and if either Lisa
or Caleb would run throu h that again and give us some sort of a timeline that we might
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Zaremba. Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: Having been a part of the process for --
De Weerd: A couple years.
-- two ears hasn't it been going on, something like that. This is not new to
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Zaremba: Thank you.
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~ Item 7: Items Moved From Consent Agenda
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Hoaglun: Madam Mayor?
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Zaremba: The Rountree family is very thoroughly involved in Meridian and I'm very
pleased to second this.
De Weerd: Thank ou. If there aren't any questions, Madam Clerk, I will ask for a roll.
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De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 9: Action Items
A. Public Hearing: Community Development Block Grant (CDBG}
PY08 Substantial Amendment
De Weerd: Now we have in ourAction Items. 9-A is a public hearing for our community
development block grant. I will turn this over to our planning department.
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The entitled communities were directed to submit an amendment to our 2008 action
did that. Because of the short time frame that we were given by HUD we only
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were able to submit one project for use of those funds, that was the 8th Street bridge
and edestrian pathway connection project. We completed that project in August of
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has encouraged us to submit another project for use of those funds. As you can
ima ine the are ettin a reat deal of ressure from congress to get the remaining
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stimulus funds spent, so we have approximately -- just over 40,000 dollars to use for
those funds. Staff solicited ideas from internal city departments and staff. We primarily
sought an internal project under -- to be able to have a project that we could move
forward uickl .Recovery Act funds are also encouraged to promote energy efficiency.
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The proposed pedestrian lighting project most closely fit the goals and the guidelines of
the Recovery Act, as well as our budget and timing constraints for this funding source.
So, with that we are proposing to add the West 8th Street pedestrian lighting project.
It's proposed to design and install energy efficient pedestrian lighting on West 8th
Street, which is just a few blocks from here between Pine Avenue and Cherry Lane.
This roadwa segment is part of a safe route to school corridor for Meridian Middle
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School, which is located at West 8th and Cherry Lane. The project will install new
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ei ht fixtures along the half mile segment. And the proposed lighting will be consistent
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with our current city standards. So, I just have a brief map. The red line that you see
there is solid) within our low to moderate income area, which is something that HUD
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looks at for a project location for these funds. Here you see the aerial map and you can
see the middle school location there. Because it is a middle school we have a number
of students walking to school in this location and a good portion of their school year is in
the dark. This is a photo taken by city staff. You can see it's very very dark. This was
taken at 7:00 o'clock in the morning on September 30th. So, we are solidly into the
school year here, you can see how dark it is along this corridor. And this is just an
example of a standard city lighting fixture and I'd like to be able to briefly review the
budget with you. This is an important part of the proposal. What we are proposing you
can see is about 4,400 dollars over what we have allocated for our CDBG funds. We
are proposing to use funds from our city general fund from the street light and electrical
allocation. The city funding would cover the higher initial cost of the energy efficient
LED lighting. The lighting uses 37 percent less electricity than our standard high
pressure sodium lighting. The difference in cost there you can see is about that 4,400
dollars. So, we'd like Council's input on using the energy efficient lighting. I think it's
something that helps give --gives us a little more of a positive view of HUD when they
review the project as it is consistent with the Recovery Act guidelines. With that I will
turn it over -- or Tim Curns and I are both here. Tim and I have been working together
to develop the project, so if you have any questions for either Tim or I specifically
,..,, related to the lighting or the HUD funding we would be happy to stand for any questions.
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~ De Weerd: Council, any questions?
Rountree: I have none.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: Just a comment.
De Weerd: You probably need to turn on your mike.
Zaremba: I do. Thank you. Just a comment and that is that it seems to me that that
corridor is the appropriate place to focus. ACRD has just improved the sidewalk along
much of it. Now, the addition of lights would be an additional safety thing. I think that's
a good idea. I, in particular, support the LED lighting. You know, not that I want to be
spending more money, but when you trade that off against the future savings in
electricity I think that's the right thing to do.
De Weerd: I would just have a question as to how you determine the placement of the
lighting.
~. Curns: Madam Mayor, in general we would try and place the lights as close to property
lines as we could, just to minimize the impact. Although certainly how far we can throw
the light isthe --the major factor in figuring out where we need to place them.
De Weerd: Have we had any kind of outreach along that road?
den Hartog: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, once we submit the project to
HUD, if we get approval from them, Tim and I were anticipating holding a public
information meeting with a draft design so that we could show them some proposed
locations for the lights, because I ~ think that will be important for the residents along
West 8th Street to know whether or not a light fixture will impact their property or will
impact their home in terms of where the light is shining. one advantage with the LED
lights -- I think I will let Tim explain how they can be directed, but --
Curns: With these particular lights they cast light in a much more efficient manner in
terms of where it hits the ground, so with our traditional lighting they kind of throw light
out in a big bubble and LED lights tend to be a little bit more compact. No matter which
fixture we use, though, they both have the capability of installing back light shields, so if
someone decides that that's a little too much light in their front yard and they'd rather
not have it that way, there is a very inexpensive shield we can stick on those fixtures.
De Weerd: Thank you.
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.~ den Hartog: And so with that, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I would just
make arecommendation -- we had -- with our public notice in the newspapers we had
opened the comment period on February 11th. I haven't heard anything. Because of
the guidelines for the stimulus funding we were allowed to have a reduced comment
period and just a single public hearing in order to speed the process along. So, with
that I would request that you adopt the substantial amendment as presented and I will
bring back a resolution next week if you decide to do that and, then, direct staff to
forward the amendment to HUD for their review.
De Weerd: Thank you. I would ask if there is any member of the public who would like
to testify on this item. Okay. Council?
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we close the public hearing on the community block grant
amendment.
Zaremba: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing on this item. All
~, those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
De Weerd: Thank you, Lori.
den Hartog: Thank you.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, there is no item here, but I would move that we ask staff to
prepare a resolution on the adoption of this CDBG grant in the amount of 40,019 dollars
and direct staff to supply to Council through the appropriate process a budget
amendment that would accommodate the 4,457 dollars out of the streetlighting fund to
pick up the difference on this project.
Zaremba: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Madam Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, absent; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun; yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
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B. Public Hearing: CPAM 10-001 Waverly Place by Robert
Mortensen, Mountain West Entrust IRAIFBO Located at 2510 E.
Magic View Drive: Request: Amendment to the Comprehensive
Plan Future Land Use Map to Change the Land Use
Designation on 4.9 Acres of Land from Office to Medium
Density Residential
C. Public Hearing: RZ 10-004 Waverly Place by Robert Mortensen,
Mountain West Entrust IRAIFBO Located at 2150 E. Magic View
Drive: Request: Rezone of 5.17 Acres of Land from L-0
(Limited Offices to R-8 (Medium Density Residential Zone
D. Public Hearing: PP 10-003 Waverly Place by Robert Mortensen,
Mountain West Entrust IRAlFBO Located at 2150 E. Magic View
Drive: Request: Preliminary Plat Approval of 24 Residential
Building Lots and 4 Common Lots on 4.9 Acres of Land in a
Proposed R-8 Zoning District
De Weerd: Okay. The next item Item 9-B is a public hearing on CPAM 10-001. It's the
first time I have seen that acronym. l will open the public hearing with staff comments.
Oh. I will also open Items 9-C and D on RZ 10-004 and PP 10-003.
~~ Wafters: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. The first application
before you is an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan future land use map to change
the land use map designation on 4.9 acres of land from office to medium density
residential. The second application is a rezone request of 5.3 acres of land from the L-
0, limited office, to the R-8, medium density residential zoning district. In the final
application is a preliminary plat consisting of 24 single family residential building lots
and four common other lots on 49 acres of land. The site consists of 4.9 acres, as I
mentioned. Is currently zoned L-0, and is located at 2510 East Magic View Drive. This
is a copy of the proposed preliminary plat and landscape plan. The applicant proposes
to construct 24 townhome units in clusters of two on individual lots, along with a 1,000
square foot clubhouse and attached caretaker unit to be owned and maintained by the
homeowners association. The internal public streets and underground utilities were
constructed on the site as part of the previously approved development. Because the
Unified Development Code no longer allows residential uses in the L-0 district, a map
amendment and rezone is requested. This is a copy of the site plan submitted by the
applicant showing the configuration of the homes on the proposed building lot. The
applicant has submitted two different building elevations for the proposed townhomes.
The elevations consist of single story structures with two car garages. Construction
materials consist of a mix if horizontal, vertical, and shake siding with stone veneer
accents. This is type one building elevation and type two. An elevation and floor plan
was also submitted for the caretaker unit and clubhouse. They are consistent with the
townhome units and construction materials and design. All structures are subject to
,,~ administrative design review with submittal of the certificate of zoning compliance
application. No fencing is proposed with this application, but because of the probably
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.~~. future extension of Hickory, which exists right up here at the northeast corner along the
east bounda site, staff recommends any fencing constructed in this area be setback a
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minimum of ten feet from the subdivision boundary consistent with the fencing
standards for corner lots on which two streets abut the property. Staff also
recommends landscaping be installed and maintained by the homeowner to the
subdivision boundary. The commission recommended approval of this application. At
the commission hearing Shawn Nickles, Scott Noriyuki, Celeste Fox and Gene Fox
testified in favor. No one testified in opposition. And no one commented. Written
testimony was received from Alston Jones and the Woodbridge Homeowners
Association. Key issues of discussion by the Commission. The Commission
commended the applicant on working with the neighbors to resolve issues from the
previous hearing. Key Commission changes to the staff recommendation. The
Commission added the commitments made by the applicant pertaining to the material
specifications for the structures to the development agreement, including in Exhibit A-7
of the staff report. Written testimony since the Commission hearing was received from
the Woodbridge Homeowners Association in support of the staff report and the
Commission's recommendation and the applicant submitted a letter in writing in
agreement with the staff report and the Commission recommendation also. There are
no outstanding issues for the City Council. Staffwill stand far any questions at this time.
De Weerd: Council, any questions at this point?
,,~, Rountree: I have none right now.
De Weerd: Okay.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: This is a thought from way back and I'm not even sure if I'm remembering it
correctly, but there have been other versions of this before and I think there atone time
was a requirement to have a pathway that would connect to Hickory or the future
Hickory, just to provide a way for pedestrians to have another access in and out. Was
that considered along with this plan or did it even exist before?
Wafters: Madam Mayor, Councilman Zaremba, Councilmen, I don't recall a pathway
discussion on that.
Zaremba: I seem to remember some issue of that, but --
Wafters: And there is no pathway proposed, no.
Canning: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Council Member Zaremba, perhaps
,~..., in your Planning Commission days you're remembering back to when Woodbridge went
through. There is another unopened right of way in Woodbridge that they did connect a
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~. pedestrian path to, but it's still not opened. So, I don't think we have -- I don't recall ever
discussing it on this one.
Zaremba: That could very well be what I was thinking of, so that's fine. If it's not
needed, it's not needed.
De Weerd: Is the applicant here this evening? Good evening. If you will, please, state
your name and address for the record.
Noriyuki: Scott Noriyuki. 3106 Ridgeway Drive.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Noriyuki: Mayor. Councilmen. We are proud of the project. We feel like we have
spent a lot of time working on our own independently to come up with a successful
project, as well as with the neighbors. A couple of clarifications. Although we haven't
proposed in the application, we anticipate doing perimeter fencing initially. So, I'd
probably like to talk a little bit more about this potential stub street on our northeastern
property line. I spent some additional time out there yesterday just kind of looking at the
existing properties to the north, which are Ada County R-1 zoning and just the proximity
of the homes, I realize there is right of way there. I anticipate that that's going to be met
with resistance from that particular subdivision. However, we are happy to set the fence
~, back ten feet. My concern is that if we set the fence back we could potentially end up
with some no man's land that is not going to be properly maintained. So, if we have to
negotiate or establish some sort of a permanent easement, I would request that it
immediately arc to the south and east as quickly as possible out of our property and that
you allow us to put up fencing until such time that ever became a reality. Other than
that I stand for questions. Thank you.
De Weerd: Council, any questions?
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you.
Noriyuki: Thank you.
De Weerd: I do have two people who signed up. If you would like to provide testimony
when I call your name I would invite you forward. Gene Fox signed up in favor.
Wellman; Good evening.
De Weerd: Good evening. If you will, please, state your name and address for the
record ,
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~~ Wellman: I'm Jim Wellman and I -- my property backs up against this -- this new
addition.
De Weerd: So, you're not Gene Fox.
Wellman: Jim Fox?
De Weerd: Yes.
Wellman: Is there a Jim Fox -- oh.
De Weerd: We will ask -- we will ask if you'd like to provide testimony after this.
Wellman: All right.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Wellman: My property backs right up against this. In fact, I have got my neighbor here,
Bill Ebber, who is -- his property backs up against -- against what may be office
buildings, as I understand. This particular addition looks pretty good to me. The only
thing that I would raise a flag on is -- is putting a -- we already have a -- a little pathway
that goes from our subdivision into the -- and I think you can see it into the Woodbridge
r~ Subdivision. We have walkers. They love to walk around our subdivision and they use
that to walk as well and it's nice. Right now we don't have very much traffic at all. If, in
fact -- and I would encourage the city to maybe help by maybe raising a flag, too, and
my real concern is if you put a road in there it's going to increase the safety issue. We
have got two roads out of four -- actually, four roads going out, two to Eagle Road and
two to Franklin. So, there is -- I can't see the justification of another road there. And,
quite frankly, I can't see the justification for a pathway, but -- because I think a pathway
might also invite maybe bad behavior, because we don't really have lights in our
subdivision. Okay. So, as far as the new addition, I think it might be -- it would be to
our benefit. It appears that it -- if, anything, it would help raise the value of our homes,
as long as these are the up-scale abodes. And other than that that's all I have got.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Council, any questions?
Rountree: I have none.
De Weerd: Okay. Mr. Fox, would you like to provide testimony? Yes, sir. You can just
pull that microphone down closer. Thank you.
Fox: My name is Gene Fox and I live at 582 South Woodhaven.
De Weerd: Thank you.
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~ Fox: And --good evening, Madam Mayor and the City Council in Meridian. Thank you
for allowing me to speak. A few years ago I stood before you and spoke in favor of a
project for this property that was proposed by Alton Jones. Unfortunately, that project
never got beyond the infrastructure stage. I do understand that the issue before you
tonight is slightly different than the one approved by the City Council for Mr. Jones, but
the net effect upon the Woodbridge community is the same.. When this new proposal
first came before Planning and Zoning, I, along with numerous others, vigorously
opposed it on the grounds that it was too vague and general. Such is no longer the
case. Scott Noriyuki and Kelly Paraman have met repeatedly with the residents of
Woodbridge and have created a succinct plan that answers many, although not all, of
the ob'ections and questions which we had. The homeowners association of
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Woodbridge sent a letter to the City Council urging you to accept and approve this plan.
I am not a member of the homeowners association and I do not pretend to speak in
their name, but I was a participant in the discussions that were held and helped to draft
the letter that was sent to you. I am in favor of this project and urge you to approve it.
Thank you for the opportunity to speak.
De Weerd: Thank you, Mr. Fox. Any questions from Council?
Rountree: No.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Fox: Thank you.
De Weerd: I also see Celeste Fox is also signed up in favor. Thank you. Additional
testimony? Sir. Okay. Anyone else who is in our public that would like to provide
testimony? Scott, do you have wrap-up comments? Okay. Council, any questions for
staff or applicant?
Rountree: I have none.
Wellman: Well, I do -- I do have one question.
De Weerd: You need to ask your question in the microphone and if you will, please,
state your name once more.
Wellman: James Wellman. Meridian.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Wellman: When this is approved how soon can we get this done? We -- it looks like
the Maginot line over there right now. I know this has been held up for a long time, I just
would like to maybe put a little fire under somebody to get this thing started. Anyway,
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~ De Weerd: I'm sure you can talk with the owner's representatives after this hearing.
Wellman: Okay. I didn't mean to put you on the spot or anything.
Wafters: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, if I may clarify something. On the
right of way for Hickory Way at the northeast corner of the property, that is not opened
or improved right of way. So, just want you to be aware of that.
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Council?
Zaremba: Madam Mayor, that was going to be a subject of a question I was going ask,
though.
Wafters: Beat you.
Zaremba: Our policy and ACHD's policy is for connectivity anywhere we can get it, with
-- with the thought that the more connectivity you have it spreads out the traffic load
over all of the options, as opposed to focusing them on future. So, I'm assuming that
ACRD and the City of Meridian are in favor of Hickory Way, eventually, connecting to
some portion of Magic View. I guess my question is where is that in relation to this
property line and how does that affect the fencing? What do we need to do about that?
~ Wafters: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Councilman Zaremba. The property
line runs right adjacent to it. The applicant maybe able to answer a little, you know,
closer on the exact distance.
Zaremba: What I'm guessing is that the right of way doesn't actually enter this property.
Wafters: I don't believe it does.
Zaremba: Okay. All right.
Hoaglun: Madam Mayor?
DeWeerd: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: If I could ask Scott a question about that -- that fence line, because it looked
like Hickory -- South Hickory Way there, when -- if that road is developed there would
be the road, a sidewalk and, then, your fence and you're being asked to that -- if it were
at the property line and staff is asking that it come back ten feet at this time. Is that --
am (correct inthat understanding?
Noriyuki: Sonya, can you, please, bring up the preliminary plat?
~ Wafters: Yes.
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Noriyuki: Thank you.
De Weerd: Scott, if you will just restate your name.
Noriyuki: Apologies. Scott Noriyuki. 3106 Ridgeway Drive.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Noriyuki: Thank you. If you look at the northeast corner you can -- and I realize it's
partially foggy.
De Weerd: I'm sorry, Scott --
Holman: I'm sorry. If you want to push one of those colored buttons on the top of that
board there. Do you see them? You can put red and you should be able to draw with
red with that pen now so they can see what you're talking about.
Noriyuki: I can test it. Okay. That works. That works wonderful. So, Hickory right of
way is -- is roughly here. So, what I envision is the issue is going to be approximately
there. So, if we had a 50 foot right of way at -- at some point when this property starts
to develop it's going to have to come over like this, because let's assume these are
going to be light office buildings, because we are in the L-0 district, so we have got to
have some sort of reasonable separation between those. So, the area -- I like these
colors. The area that I'm talking about is specifically right there. If that make sense.
So, what I'm concerned about is -- or, first of all, what I want to request is that we get
support that we immediately arc that out to the south and to the east as quickly as
possible to get off our property, because it's going to be a burden for the adjacent
property owner from a development and planning standpoint, if you guys -- if ACRD and
you force that in the future. So, that will be negative. But in addition I'd like to get it off
our property as quickly as possible and I would like some sort of an agreement that we
can place the fencing until such time that -- on the property line until such time that
actually is established and constructed. The reason why is if we -- if we arc our fencing
who is going to maintain that no man's land? Does that help?
De Weerd: Yes.
Hoaglun: So, Madam Mayor and Scott, then -- and, then, the understanding would be
that we would have on the record that when that comes into being developed, then, that
fenceline would be moved to accommodate the right of way --
Noriyuki: Yes. I think we would handle that through the final plat process, because
we'd have to contemplate it from a building setback standpoint as well, so that we don't
end up with some sort of conundrum in the future where we have got a sidewalk andlor
a fence three feet from the back of one of our homes and we are prepared to --and we
,.~, have contemplated all of that.
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~ De Weerd: Yeah. We don't want to move your homes.
~~ hen to address --well, are there any other questions on that?
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Wafters: Yes.
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allow a three foot solid at the property line. If the applicant wishes to do that that
wouldn't need to move over time. But there is noway -- there is no mechanism before
Council at this time to say to that adjoining property owner that they need to move that
road.
Wafters: And, Councilman Hoaglun, if I may just expand on that. There is currently a
develo ment agreement provision that requires fencing to be set back ten feet.
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against their property line at this time.
Wafters: That is correct.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
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loud or conditioned in the future to go straight down, essentially, the jurisdictions at
lar a are going to create a double front on scenario for our houses. We are going to
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have streets on both sides of these houses. So, thats where I propose the immediate
arc and to et out and awa from it, if we -- we move it straight here and we have got
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the existing street here. So, the concern is you have got homes here. Maybe they will
have a three foot buffer from this particular area, but that's not a desirable living
situation. And I realize you maybe don't have a vehicle, but I just want to point this out.
Hoa lun: I appreciate you making that clear, Scott, Madam Mayor, and I guess it
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other property, I guess it comes down to your persuasive skills whoever owns that
property as it develops how that looks.
Noriyuki: I will exercise those skills as best I can in hopes. And, then, last comment --
unless ou have an other questions -- upon approval regarding the neighbor's
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Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Son a, did ACRD comment on this project?
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down or if it was to veer to the east?
Noriyuki: It appeared foggy to me.
De Weerd: Is that interpretation or --
' ki: Yeah. That's --that was m understanding. I didn't see -- or I didn't read into
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De Weerd: Thank ou. Oka . Council, any further questions? If there are none, I
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would entertain a motion to close these three public hearings.
Rountree: So moved.
Zaremba: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing on 9-6, C and D.
All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONEABSENT.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Discussion if we might. I'm not convinced that Hickory will ever be anything
more than what it is today. I do not see why we need to create a corridor and carve out
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Weerd: Oka .Council, if there is not further discussion, do I have a motion?
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Rountree: Madam Mayor, I have a question for Mr. Nary.
De Weerd: Okay.
Rountree: Which one of these actions contains the DA?
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Rountree: C?
Nary: Yes.
Rountree: Okay. Madam Mayor?
DeWeerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we approve Item 9-B, CPAM 10-001, subject to staff comments
and applicant comments.
Hoaglun: Second.
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' and a second to approve Item 9-B. Is there any
De Weerd: I have a motion
discussion? Hearing none, Madam Clerk.
- ~ Bird absent Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun; yea.
Roll Call. ,
De Weerd: All ayes.. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
De Weerd: Item 9-C.
Rountree: Madam. Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
we a rove Item 9-C, RZ 10-004, with the removal of the
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' motion and a second. Any discussion, clarification needed?
De Weerd. I have a
Seeing none, Madam Clerk, roll call.
Roll-Call: Bird, absent; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun; yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
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applicant's comments.
Hoaglun: Second.
I have a motion and a second to approve Item 9-D. Madam Clerk, roll call,
De Weerd.
please.
Roll-Call: Bird, absent; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun; yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
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OTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
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Item 10: Continued Department Reports
Ma or's office: City Survey Discussion and Acceptance
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acceptance by City Council.
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De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
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De Weerd: Well -- and their comment was that they felt later this spring, early summer,
back on the com arisons with eer cities. Additional questions? Mr. Rountree?
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' ational res onsibilities of the city. So, continue to keep
the green and certainly the found p
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our eye on the ball and so app
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about the green in t y
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or and Robert I don't know if I have to accept it, but I find it
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acceptable.
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-- ou want a motion of acception or just a consensus?
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De Weerd: Mr. Nary?
ers of the Council, it is helpful for future record keeping if
Nary. Madam Mayor, Memb
I acce tance and so we don't have to do a resolution, but if
you actually make a forma p
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that way there is s y
some way to at least capture that information.
Zaremba: Thank ou. I would move that we accept the results of the survey.
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Rountree: Second.
• motion and a second to accept the survey results. Any discussion?
De Weerd. I have a
Madam Clerk, will you, please, call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, absent; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun; yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
B, Plannin De artment: Ada County Highway District's (ACRD}
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eerd: Thank ou Robert. Okay. Our next item is 10-B, our planning department.
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of the final environmental impact study for State Highway 16. Now, this is Just
copy ~ ou're all
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would ~ 1 .
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~ chooses, but the -- or the Council chooses. The commission did request that we send
something in writing to them, so I did relay to them your comments on draft A, but they
asked for something in writing this go around, so if we can by the end of this. So, there
was a table in the staff memo that I prepared showing all of the changes from draft A to
draft B. I did just want to take a minute to highlight a few of those nonbridge projects
that have changed since we discussed the 2012-2016 five year work plan last time.
The biggest one I think is that three new interim intersections in Meridian are planned
for construction in 2012. So, that's the first year of the program that we are talking
about here. Those three intersections are Black Cat-Cherry, Ten Mile-Victory, and
Locust Grove-Victory. In draft A both Black Cat-Cherry and Ten Mile-Victory were
shown for ultimate improvement in 2015 and the Locust Grove-Victory intersection was
shown as PD or preliminary development. All of these projects are currently unfunded
in the current five year work plan. So, based on some of the new scoring and ranking
criteria over at the highway district, these intersections have moved up in the priority
order. In draft A they advanced as ultimate improvements and ACRD has looked at
them as interim improvements. So, I just want you all to know that it wouldn't be the full
build of those intersections. I mean it would be similar to Meridian-Ustick, although
design hasn't been done on those, it would be something where you could signalize it,
potentially, at least hopefully add a left turn, if not a right turn lane as well to all --all the
legs, but depending on right of way they may not be able to fit all those components in
the interim intersections. And the reason I bring that up is at least with today's
estimates they envision those intersections holding over until 2021 for Ten Mile-Victory,
,~., so nine year life or so out of that intersection. Again, these are all subject to change,
but just estimates today. For the Black Cat-Cherry, that would continue to work and not
fail until 2023 and, then, Locust Grove-Victory until 2028. So, some long term interim
improvements there. So, I just wanted you all to be aware that that's -- that's what's
going on. I think it's a good thing, but I just want you all to know and if you have-- if you
want to hold tight and wait for the ultimate improvements, that's something that we could
do as well. So, this is in response I think to our request last year for them to look at
doing intersections and even interim intersections. So, it really is a reflection of some of
our requests. So, I wanted to call that out to you all. Also moving in the construction in
2012 is the Ustick-Duane to Campton project. So, that starts in Boise on -- and moves
into Meridian towards Eagle Road on Ustick. That was planned for construction in 1214
in draft A. They are going to do that roadway widening with the
Ustick-Cloverdale intersection. A project that came out of the five year work plan for
funding was the State Highway 69 Lake Hazel intersection. That was a request of the
city of Boise. It ranked pretty low. It wasn't on our priority request, or at least it wasn't
very high on our priority request. It's right there kind of on the fringe to -- between us
and Kuna. So, that one's coming out of the program, but I just wanted to let you be -- let
you be aware of that change as well. And, then, Fairview, I just want to take a couple
more minutes and talk about Fairview. Currently there is 1.35 million -- again, this is the
placeholder that Lisa talked about in 2914. Mayor Bieter sent a letter on draft A over to
ACRD requesting since that Ustick-Duane to Compton project I just that mentioned that
was in '14 moving up to '12, that freed up some money in '14. So, they asked to put
,,~,,, some more money towards the Fairview access management, also known as the center
medians and the u-turns into '14 and '15, again, I think Sabrina Anderson mentioned
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earlier there is about two million dollars in each year. So, approximately four million in
2014 and 2015. So, those are ones where I thought important enough to call out to you
all -- again, there is the full list in the memo, but pretty much all the rest of them are
bridges. Not that they are not important, but we usually don't talk about bridges, so --
the other thing just to maybe take a minute is to talk about some of the other points that
Boise city brought up in their letter to ACRD on draft A and future corridors is a big
topic. They have requested that Maple Grove be looked at as for kind of -- as one of
the next corridors that ACRD begins work on and finished work until it's entirely
constructed. Right now -- and this isn't an entire list, but Ustick is a priority corridor.
Ten Mile is a priority corridor. State Street is a priority corridor. Franklin. Overland.
Your major arterials are a lot of priority corridors. But ACRD maintains a list of what
they consider priority corridors and, again, they try to finish those out before moving to
over projects. We can have another discussion either at a workshop or now if you have
some other corridors in mind. Linder Road comes to my mind as a major north-south.
We have some east-west -- Ustick, Overland, Franklin, and Ten Mile as the only north-
south one that we have. The other major one that we have, Eagle Road, is a state
highway, so -- but if you have any comments on any potential priority corridors that we
should look at -- again, this discussion will be ongoing over the next year, but ACHD's
pushing pretty hard -- or, excuse me, the city of Boise is pushing pretty hard for Maple
Grove to be designated as a priority corridor. So, I just wanted to make you aware of
that. And I will pause if there are any other comments on nonstate priority corridors at
this time.
De Weerd: Council?
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: In my mind if the corridor runs east and west it's a priority corridor. We can
get north and south relatively easily through most of the county. But when you try to get
east and west you're -- you have got Franklin hour-glassed. I know there is projects to
fix it. Overland finally through. Ustick has got some tight spots.
De Weerd: Fairview.
Rountree: Fairview -- I think the access control is a priority and it's going to take more
than four million dollars I'm sure. I know Chinden is a state project. Bottom line is if
anything is going to get done out there it's probably going to have to be done by the
locals. That's where people are going. They are going north and south to go east and
west. If they can get east and west a little easier they are not going to go north and
south on every mile. I just --
Hood: The only ones that aren't priority corridors are McMillan, Victory, Amity. I mean
those are really --
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r~ Rountree: I think they are important.
Hood: And to follow that point through, one of the -- one of the projects -- at least on
one of those potential corridors on McMillan that the City of Boise has asked ACRD to
take out of the program is that first leg in Meridian of McMillan. So, between Locust
Grove and Eagle they -- it doesn't rank very high right now, but they are working on --
ACHD's working on that intersection at Locust Grove and McMillan and I think once that
intersection becomes easier to navigate you will see people -- and I don't want to use
cut-through, but they are arterials, but you will see people getting off of State Highway
55 and meandering through that intersection both directions, because Chinden and
Eagle is a pretty bad intersection. So, just to let you know I don't disagree with any of
your comments, but we will look at some east-west and I will bring that back for further
discussion. But the city of Boise is looking to remove that from a priority, so --
Rountree: Madam Mayor? A question on the interim intersections -- and I fully support
that. But does that include initial right of way acquisition for the ultimate or are they just
going to go within existing right of way and do what they can?
Hood: Madam Mayor, Councilman Rountree, my understanding is they will try to work
within the existing right of way.
Rountree: okay.
Hood: Depending on how much -- you know, I think they do try to, you know, knock on
the door, talk to property owners. If they seem willing they maybe be able to acquire it,
but it's going to depend on how much is budgeted in '12, too, for the project. So, it
typically doesn't include ultimate right of way on all four corners.
Hoaglun: And, Madam Mayor, Sabrina was nodding in agreement with that, so you're
okay.
Hood: So, again, city staff is fully supportive of draft B. We have a letter and I guess
with that, if there are any changes to that letter or if I could ask for the Mayor's signature
this evening, that's why I'm here. So, I will stand for any questions at this time.
De Weerd: Caleb, I appreciate the question you raised and if Council had any
comments about the three intersections being advanced in the program, but delaying
the ultimate intersection improvements? No. We appreciate the interim most definitely.
Any comments further from Council or are you good with the letter?
Hoaglun: Good with the letter. Thank you, Caleb.
Hood: Thank you.
,..~ De Weerd: Thank you. And thank you to ACRD. Even though I can't see you back
there.
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C. Planning Department: Discuss Communities in Motion (CIM) -
The Region's Long-Range Transportation Plan
De Weerd: Okay. Caleb, if you wanted to go to the next --
Hood: Keep going?
De Weerd: Yeah.
Hood: Okay. Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. Again, Caleb Hood,
City of Meridian Planning Department. This next agenda item is also afollow-up or the
next steps in the Communities In Motion, which is, again, the long range transportation
plan for the two county region. We were here -- we -- Carl Miller from COMPASS and
myself were here at that same meeting in January, discussed that, Carl did a
Powerpoint on CIM. I have since --hopefully you all got the copies of the CD-ROM that
came in a little summary packet and had a chance to look at those. That contained the
plan, because the last time you hadn't -- or at least not all of you had the opportunity to
review the plan. You requested additional time to review and to bring this item back for
further discussion. I have worked with the legal department on a draft resolution, if
that's the direction you want to go in supporting CIM. I also do have -- received today a
letter from Matt Stoll at COMPASS requesting the city to adopt it. They have verbally
,sue asked us to, but I thought it would be good if you could at least put that request in
writing. You all should have a letter to that effect as well from Matt asking the city to
adopt -- support CIM. So, I have just aquick -- and this presentation isn't anything
really that you haven't seen, but I did add a couple of points and the memo that I
prepared in the broad vision and goals for CIM are identified in 2004 to 2006, as the
original plan was developed and this is an update to that 2006 plan. So, they didn't start
from scratch. I thought it would be nice just to go through the vision statement with you
again. We envision a Treasure Valley where quality of life is enhanced and
communities are connected by an innovative, effective, multi-modal transportation
system. So, the goals are connections for safe access and mobility. Coordination.
Interjurisdictional coordination. The environment. Minimize transportation impacts to
people, resources, and the environment and information. So, coordinated data
gathering and dispensing better information. So, CIM supports balance housing and
jobs. Choices in housing types. Choices in transportation and shorter commuting
distances. Connectivity through higher density and preservation of open space and
farmland. I'll move on. So, CIM is not a solution, it's a guide. The city support for the
intent of communities in motion goes a long ways towards building upon the high level
of coordination and sound working relationships we currently enjoy with COMPASS,
VRT, ITD, ACRD, and our other regional partners. One of the clarifications I like to
point out is CIM does preclude local governments from approving development that may
not be consistent with the location, nature, or amount of growth predicted. However,
CIM is modeled after the city's Comprehensive Plan, so the land use assumption in the
,~.` CIM and the policy statements align with the city's Comprehensive Plan. Both
documents have a consistent vision and related policies. This is something I think that
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~~ was brought up last time by Councilman Hoaglun was the concern over the lack of
funding identified in the plan. CIM does call out the lack of fundin for trans ortation
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regional corridors for the future, redefining how projects are selected for construction
and encouraging additional citizen involvement in solving our transportation shottfalls.
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constrained, then, it goes to the next level. So, again, next steps -- there is a draft
resolution, you can take it or leave it or modify it and we can come back and/or support
CIM in the -- the Comprehensive Plan that's making it's way through the process now
and should be before you here later this spring or we can do nothing. So, those are
kind of the options. I realize that was a pretty quick presentation, but you have heard it
all before. So, if there are any questions I will attempt to answer them.
De Weerd: Council, any questions?
Hoaglun: I just want to be certain, Madam Mayor and Caleb, that if we adopt this by
reference to our Comprehensive Plan, we are not necessarily -- we acknowledge the
,~, fact that transportation needs cost money, but haw we get there is still open for debate,
discussion, and everything else. It doesn't buy into any particular set or strategies.
Hood: Madam Mayor, Councilman Hoaglun, the rest of the Council, no, sir. You know,
there was potential ways to fix those gaps, but there weren't an articular strate ies
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identified in saying raise gas tax or increase user fees this way or that way or whatever.
There was potential discussed in there, but we are not buying into raising any additional
fees for transportation projects by supporting or adopting CIM.
Hoaglun: Thank you.
De Weerd: Any other questions from Council? Council, there is a request from
COMPASS looking at adopting the Communities In Motion by reference in our
Comprehensive Plan.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Recognize the request and recognize the requirement of having a
transportation component of your Comprehensive Plan is actually part of the state
statute, so since this plan has been developed on a regional basis, I think we -- we
,.-~., should adopt it with the understanding it is -- it is not a plan of success per se, it's
somewhat a plan that identifies the failure that we have at this point to accommodate
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~ the future. Having said that, I think we do need to put it in the Comprehensive Plan as a
vision of what we could have. I think we need to be forthright, however, as we talk
about this plan with -- our constituents that don't view this as this is the solution and this
is what you're going to get. What you're going to get is more of the same in terms of
traffic congestion and that sort of thing until the revenue question is addressed, both for
surface transportation, whether it's an individual automobile or whether it's public
transportation.
Hood: Madam Mayor, I don't know if there is anymore comments, but I can work on
some -- an amendment to adopt this plan as part of the Comprehensive Plan. You will
certainly see that again in the future, so you don't -- you don't have to make that
decision about what that should look like tonight, but we will at least begin the draft --
some adoption documents for your consideration at a future meeting as part of the
Comprehensive Plan, so --
De Weerd: Caleb, I do think it would be appropriate, however, to draft a letter detailing
our steps in that consideration, in considering referencing this in our Comprehensive
Plan in kind of the next step. I believe this goes to the Planning and Zoning
Commission next month, the Comprehensive Plan? Okay.
Hood: Would you like to send that letter, Madam Mayor, or should I sign it or have
Anna sign it or--
De Weerd: Probably underAnna's signature.
Nary: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Yeah. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think to follow up on what
Council Member Rountree raised and what Caleb's saying is the resolution they are
asking from COMPASS for you to adopt is a gesture of showing of support, but until we
actually either reference it into our Comprehensive Plan or include it in some fashion,
then, it really doesn't become the guide that it's supposed to be until you do that. So,
like Caleb's saying you will see it again as part of that process, but the -- whether you
do the resolution or a letter of acknowledgment, whichever, I think it's really just to show
of support that the city is supportive of what's been developed and it's going to work to
incorporate what makes sense to the city and to its plan.
De Weerd: Well -- and that is the purpose of that letter is just to detail our process in
getting to that point.
Hood: Madam Mayor, just so I'm clear, then, the letter would replace and we won't do a
resolution, then, right?
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~. De Weerd: I think resolution would be appropriate after the Comprehensive Plan gets
through it process.
Hood: Okay.
Rountree: That makes sense.
Hood: Thank you.
D. Police Department Report: Precious Metal Dealers Licensing
and Regulation; Discussion of Draft Ordinance
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you, Caleb. Okay. Item 10-D is our police department report.
I think, chief, you know, beings how you're usually at the end of the agenda, I think we
saved the best for last.
Lavey: Madam Mayor, Council, you probably took the words right out of my mouth. I
got a little excited here, because I thought I was going to have two Council -- or two
audience members, but now I see we are back down to just Ralph, so --
De Weerd: But Ralph is the best as well.
,~ Lavey: We wish to get the word to the best is always last and, therefore, we would have
more people stay. Madam Mayor, Council, what I have in front of you today is quite
lengthy. It is ten pages --actually, it's 11 pages, but ten pages of text. I have given you
my notes that I wish to speak about, so you can kind of cheat and if I leave something
out you can just ask me a question. And, really, what we are going to do is just present
this in draft form to you and have you pick it apart. If you see something -- take it home
tonight and read it along with that environmental statement there from the state and pick
it apart. But what we are proposing is a precious metal ordinanceand, really, why that
is key is that with the price of gold especially going up and predicting to be up to 2,400
dollars an ounce within the next year or two, you get a lot of businesses that are
advertising we will buy your gold. You see it on TV, you see it on the street corners,
you see the person waving the signs. What that does is it takes the criminal element
that says if I steal that I have a place to sell it and get money very quickly. The problem
is that in law enforcement that by the time we track down the stolen property the gold
has already been melted and we have noway of recovering that item. So, just to give
you an idea of what sort of problem we are talking about here in Ada County --this does
not include Garden City, they are not on records systems, so, really, the numbers I gave
you are low. In 2009 we had 978,000 dollars in stolen property in cost by this jewelry.
Out of that amount 150,000, roughly, was Meridian. That year we were able to recover
121,000 dollars out of that almost a million dollars. In 2010 we had thefts in the amount
of almost 1.3 million dollars and we were only able to recover 180,000 dollars. The
reason why I'm here in front of you today is Boise has had a precious metal requirement
.,,.~. -- license requirement for some time, as has Ada County. Nampa is in the process of
just approving theirs. And I do not want Meridian to be the displacement city where all
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~~ of the criminals come to Meridian to sell their gold. That's what we are in store for. So,
basically, it's ten pages of legalese that requires these precious metal dealers to
operate on the same standards that we have imposed upon our pawn shops and as you
recall several years ago you approved a program called Leads Online. Basically what
happens is the property is taken in, it's photographed, the driver's license is taken and,
then, it's transmitted through the Leads Online through the web and, then, police
departments have access to it. We would be doing the same thing for the precious
metals. We would be requiring a driver's license, we would be requiring a picture be
taken transmitting the information through Leads Online and to no cost to the retailer.
Leads Online can already do it. Holding it for a certain period of time. If we determine
that it's possibly stolen that length of time increases before they can -- they can melt it.
We also have a proposal in place where we make the requirements effective several
months down the road to give a grace period for people and, then, we also have
proposed that we not charge for any licensing until 2012, because of the changes as
well. So, really, we are not trying to sneak something under the wire. We want you to
examine it, provide comments today if you have them, or we will bring this back in front
of you for the next reading and we will discuss the comments then. Mr. Nary may have
some additional comments as his staff are the ones that wrote this current proposal in
front of you.
De Weerd: Mr. Nary?
~ Nary: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. Really just probably one
thing that you might want to think about in reviewing this ordinance is we modeled this
ordinance after the pawn broker ordinance, so it's very similar to that and from a
transactional standpoint, although Lee Reed Jewelers may seem like a different type of
operation than Denny's Pawn, for the sale of precious metals it's probably not really that
different. The difference, though, that you may want to ponder is whether or not right
now under the current pawn broker ordinance and this ordinance, everybody who works
for that business has to have the license. Some of our pawn shops -- I think there is
two -- I don't know employ very many people. A business like Lee Reed probably does.
So, I think as the chief is proposing the first year the licenses don't have a cost. It might
give us some opportunity as a city, with the police department's assistance, to figure out
if that makes as much sense on the larger scale like a Lee Reed Jewelers, as it does for
a smaller operation, because, again, you want anybody who has any contact with the
material to have a background check and have the --that type of work done. Right now
it's hard for -- at least for my staff -- and I don't know about the chiefs standpoint from
police, but to determine who is --who makes the most sense to license. Would it make
more sense at some point to have the premise be licensed or designated people that
are only the ones authorized to be licensed to deal with precious metals and those
people have to be licensed and, then, they -- we are going to have to deal with that at
the business level. I'm not sure what makes the most sense yet, but that's really,
probably, in all of the different legalese as the chief stated, that's probably the one that
would be the most comment back I think from the --the business community and, again,
,~, I don't know how many jewelers we have here. Lee Reed was the one that came to
mind, because I think they are a fairly large business. But some of the other ones --
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.~~. Fred Meyer Jewelers I think is another one in the Fred Meyer store. So, there are
some. That may be the area that they have a concern in having to get licenses for
every employee that they have. But, again, for the first year the proposal is there is no
cost, so there may be a way and then cull out what makes the most sense, if there is a
reason to do it differently. But that's the only one in our discussion this morning we
thought may get some push back. I think most of the other stuff is really pretty logical if
you think of it. I mean as the chief stated other communities around us have similar
types of regulations and, again, it's really not significantly different than go take
grandma's jewelry down to the pawn shop as it is to take it down to Lee Reed. If you're
just selling it for cash, then, really how you dispose of it isn't going to matter very much.
Some of the businesses may be less inclined to take it, but I don't think that's really
something we can count on, I think that's the police's concern. So, that's the only one
we could think of, chief. I don't know if there is other things that you think would be of --
something to highlight for the Council, but that's the one that we thought would probably
get some response back.
Lavey: Madam Mayor, Council, we actually modeled this after Boise's and Nampa's
and Chubbuck's and some other places. You know, right off the top of my head I don't
know why the individual has to be licensed. I think the business is the one that needs to
be licensed. But I'd have to do some additional research to see if someone's thought
that out or had that problem in the past, but it's the business that needs to be licensed,
not the individual I would think.
Nary: But we currently license everybody at the pawn shop.
Lavey: Okay.
Nary: So, that was the reason.
Lavey: That would explain how we come to that conclusion then.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I'm sorry.
Rountree: Go ahead.
Zaremba: Okay. I certainly am in favor of this. I guess my question is -- and I think Bill
started to say something on this, but I didn't get the rest of it. Wouldn't it be similar to
using our existing pawn shop regulation and modify how we define who it applies to?
Just say we already have this ordinance and it now applies to coin dealers and jewelry
stores that don't call themselves pawn shops.
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.~~ Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Council Member Zaremba, I think when
we discussed it internally the pawn shop is defined by particular types of transactions
they deal with, because they deal with such a variety of things and not just one specific
type of transaction and that was the reason that I believe we settled on really creating a
Hitch for that. other communities have done it the same way where they separate pawn
shops -- the pawn shops are allowed to, essentially, get an endorsement on their
license, so they don't have to get another one, because we have this, but businesses
that only really engage in this type of activity --and they don't take other types of goods
and things in for sale or borrowing and some of that's in the pawn shop definition,
because some of us forget you can actually go back and get it if you really want to go
back and redeem it, you can go back and redeem it. At most of these places you can't
come back and get it. Once you have sold it to them it's theirs. So, in trying to -- in
trying to decide between just expanding the existing ordinance or creating a new one,
we felt it might be a lot more confusing to try to parcel it out in one ordinance, because it
really isn't the same type of business. So, that was the reason.
Zaremba: All right. Thank you.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I agree with the chief on the licensing. It seems to me the business should
have the responsibility of training and establishing knowledge with their staff of what the
procedures and requirements are to -- to trade and purchase precious metals. The one
thing that I can think of without reading this -- and it might be there -- is the holding
period and the volatility of the market of these precious metals. So, if the holding period
is -- in some cases a day, the prices can fluctuate on this stuff from a buck to 15 dollars
and in a month it can fluctuate a couple hundred dollars. I can see these folks getting a
little upset about that and I don't know if you addressed that when you looked at the
holding period and I haven't read that, so I don't know what it is. Just something to think
about.
Lavey: It's on -- Madam Mayor, Mr. Rountree, just to -- under the first page under the
summary of proposed ordinances --
De Weerd: Twenty-one.
Lavey: -- there is a retention period there that does indicate what ours was proposed
and what the rest of the valley is.
Rountree: Okay.
Lavey: Again, I don't know how we came up with our figure over Ada and Nampa's, but
,~.,,, on the very first page on the talking points it's there. It's also inside the -- I don't know
what page it is under the ordinance themselves, but --
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Nary: Our period is 21 days.
Rountree: Twenty-one days.
Nary: It's seven for Boise and ten for the county.
Rountree: And Ican --
Lavey: I think it's ten and --
Rountree: Ican see that being a topic of discussion amongst the dealers.
Lavey: It could be. Yes.
Rountree: The last thing that I will bring out is that I'm seeing some of these outfits that
are buying precious metals are also buying precious gems stones, particularly
diamonds, and it seems to me that why not just throw that in this as well given that they
are typically a part of those items that are stolen and they are probably taken apart and
the gold's taken here and the jewels are taken someplace else. I don't know. How do
we handle that?
,.~,, Lavey: Madam Mayor and Mr. Rountree, we also address that as well. Under the --the
reason why we didn't include the gems is because you can't melt the actual gems and
so they actually are there, we can go there. The pawn shops do include the gems. So,
it's just a matter of choice. We could -- it's something also to talk about. We could put
gems in there, but we left gems out, just because you can't melt them or destroy them
as fast as you can the precious metal.
De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun?
Hoaglun: Well, Madam Mayor, my one concern Council Rountree addressed and that
was the retention period. You know, like pawn shops, someone goes in pawns their
guitar and the pawn shop is going to sell it for a hundred bucks, they hold it for three
weeks, the value of that guitar is a hundred bucks. But Councilman Rountree pointed
out the volatility of commodities is such that there is some -- could be some big swings
that makes or breaks the purchase for that entity, whoever that is. So, if we can lower
that retention time down -- and I know that puts pressure on your folks, your detectives
and whatnot who are working cases to check up on things, but, you know, for those
businesses that -- that could be a significant amount of money and, hopefully, the vast
majority of the transactions are legitimate and you don't want to impact those, but at the
same time recognizing that we got to make sure we give you guys time to -- if the crime
was committed to check up on things, so -- but there is a way to make that work and
bring that time down from 21 days that's not a bad thing, so --
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Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
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Lavey: And that's how it currently operates under the pawn shop.
Zaremba: Okay.
Hoaglun: And, Madam Mayor, just to explore the other issue Councilman Rountree
brought up about gems, if we don't include these folks under that are we creatin an
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my thinking is I would rather have things fair than unfair, but -- .but if we aren't, then, it's
not a big deal, but if we are, then, maybe we ought to include gem stones as part of that
ordinance, but I don't know enough about that line of work to really know if we are or
not, so --
Lavey: Madam Mayor, Mr. Hoaglun, it's worth a staff discussion. I don't believe I could
answer that here today either, so it's definitely worth a discussion to bring back.
Nary: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think a long with that we can have that
discussion before we come back to you again on this premise versus the individuals
and how to make that make sense for both the pawn shop operations, as well as the
jewelry stores. There has got to be a happy medium in there. That would make sense
to both the police department and from a statutory standpoint how to make that clear.
We could deal with that.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
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Lavey: -- we just need to make sure you're in agreement with that.
Zaremba: I'm on board.
Lavey: And I do realize that it's ten pages, so it's going to take some time to digest.
Take it home and read it and pick it apart, because we want to make sure that we do it
right. We don't want to be unfair to any of the businesses, but we definitely want to try
to make it the best to recover the property for our victims as we can. So, with that if
there is any further questions --and if not I am done.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I don't know if you have run it by any of the relevant business owners, but is
this something that maybe you would ask the Chamber of Commerce for input on? I
mean it's just -- I don't want to slow the process down, but --
De Weerd: I think there is so few that it would be probably just as easy to go to the
jewelers and pawn shops themselves. I think there is Simmons and Lee Reed and the
Diamond Shop and --
Zaremba: I wasn't necessarily meaning to poll everybody, but maybe just pick one and
ask them.
Lavey: Madam Mayor, Council, that's also under the stake holder communication plan.
If -- if the Council's good with the direction we were going to send a letter and, then,
make a personal contact with each business in town, because there is so few, but we
wanted to make sure that Council was on board with the direction we were heading
before we even addressed the draft to them and, then, we will get their input as well.
Zaremba: Great. Thank you.
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~~~ A. Ordinance No. 11-1472A: Updates to Title 2, Meridian City
Code Regarding the Traffic Safety Commission and Planning &
Zoning Commission
De Weerd: Good. Thank you, chief. Okay. We are on 11-A, which is Ordinance 11-
1474-A. Madam Clerk, will you, please, read this ordinance by title only.
Holman: Thank you, Madam Mayor. City of Meridian Ordinance No. 11-1474-A. An
ordinance amending Meridian City Code Section 2-3-3 regarding membership on the
Traffic Safety Commission, amending Meridian City Code Section 2-3-5 regarding
meetings of the Traffic Safety Commission. Amending Meridian City Code Section 2-4-
3 regarding meetings of the Planning and Zoning Commission and providing an
effective date.
De Weerd: Thank you. You have heard this ordinance read by the only and I don't think
Ralph wants it heard in its entirety, so, Council, at this point I would entertain a motion
to approve this ordinance.
Zaremba: So moved.
Rountree: Second.
,~, De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 11-A. If there is no
discussion, Madam Clerk, will you, please, call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, absent; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun; yea.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 12: Future Meeting Topics
De Weerd: Item 12 is, Council, any items for future meetings? Mr. Nary, did you have
any?
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, we hadn't had any requests this week
for any items to come before you. I think based on the discussion tonight we may target
your workshop in March to talk about the precious dealers. If we get -- if we have had
enough time to get response back from the business community on that, that might be a
topic. I don't know what your schedule looks like that night for your workshop, but other
than that we haven't had any requests this week through my office. I don't know about
the clerk's office.
,~..~ Holman: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, we have had no requests.
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Hoaglun: So moved.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: All those in favor say aye. All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
De Weerd: We are adjourned.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:39 P.M.
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