2009 12-17Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting December 17, 2009
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of December 17, 2009, was
called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman David Moe.
Members Present: Chairman David Moe, Commissioner Joe Marshall, Commissioner
Wendy Newton-Huckabay and Commissioner Michael Rohm.
Members absent: Commissioner Tom O'Brien.
Others Present: Ted Baird, Machelle Hill, Anna Canning, Sonya Watters, Scott
Steckline and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-Call Attendance:
Roll-call
X Wendy Newton-Huckabay Tom O'Brien
X Michael Rohm -Vice Chairman X Joe Marshall
X David Moe -Chairman
Moe: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to welcome you to the regularly
scheduled meeting of the Planning and Zoning for December 17th. I'd like to call this
meeting to order and ask the clerk to call roll, please.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda:
Moe: Thank you very much. Next item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda.
Commissioners, there are no changes, so could I get a motion to accept the agenda?
Marshall: So moved.
Rohm: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to approve the agenda. All those in favor say aye.
Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 3: Consent Agenda:
A. Approve Minutes of December 3, 2009 Planning and Zoning
Meeting:
Moe: Next item is the Consent Agenda. The item on that is the approval of the meeting
minutes of December 3rd meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Any
comments or questions, Commissioners?
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Newton-Huckabay: I have none.
Rohm: None.
Moe: Okay. If I could get a motion to approve the Consent Agenda.
Marshall: So moved.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
Rohm: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to approve the Consent Agenda. All those in favor
say aye. Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 4: Public Hearing: CPA 09-006 Request to amend the text of the Meridian
Design Manual to edit clerical errors and add text defining the "Downtown
Core" and clarifying compliance with UDC standards for Meridian Design
Manual Text Amendment by City of Meridian Planning Department:
Moe: Based on the public here I'm just going to go ahead and we will go into our first
public hearing for the CPA 09-006 for the Meridian Design Manual Text Amendment by
staff.
Canning: Thank you, Chairman and Members of the Commission. I'm covering for Bill
tonight. Since the inception of the design manual staff has identified several clerical
errors that need to be corrected throughout the document and this is largely in response
to that. There are also a few substantive changes and Sonya is going to slowly scroll
through the pages as I'm talking. Staff is recommending additional verbiage be added
to the manual that defines the urban downtown core boundary and also clarifies the
guidelines contained in the manual are to be used in conjunction with the Unified
Development Code. Staff believes the proposed changes to the Meridian Design
Manual are necessary to eliminate any possible confusion between the UDC standards
and the design guidelines and to further improve the facilitation of the design review
process. The specific changes are outlined in Section 8 of the staff report. Many of
them have to do with parking and, then, those issues I talked about before. Do you
have any questions?
Moe: Commissioners, any questions of staff?
Rohm: I have none.
Marshall: I do --
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Moe: Mr. Marshall.
Marshall: -- Mr. Chair. Anna, you were saying that there were changes to parking. The
only changes I saw were the addition and clarification that they would be used in
conjunction with the UDC. Was there something substantive other than that?
Canning: No. It's just that the two documents were not on the same page and that's
why we put that clarification in there.
Marshall: Thank you.
Moe: Other questions?
Newton-Huckabay: I have none.
Moe: Okay. Do you know if there was anyone signed up to speak on that? It doesn't
look like there was anyone signed up to speak on that. If there is anyone in the
audience that would like to ask any questions or whatever, you're more than welcome to
come up at this time. I don't see a run on the microphone or anything, so I guess no
one wants to talk about that. Okay. Thank you very much.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Moe: Mr. Rohm.
Rohm: I move that we close the public hearing on CPA 09-006.
Marshall: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on CPA 09-006. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Moe: Any comments, questions, Commissioners? Mr. Rohm, you're doing well so far.
Rohm: Okay. Mr. Chairman?
Moe: Mr. Rohm.
Rohm: After hearing staffs testimony on this application, I move that we forward on to
City Council recommending approval of CPA 09-006 with no modifications.
Marshall: Second.
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Moe: It's been moved and seconded to approve CPA 09-006 on to City Council. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 5: Public Hearing: CUP 09-010 Request for Conditional Use Permit for an
indoor recreation facility in an I-L district for Spartan Training by Paul
Meikle, Sparta Nation - 760 E. King Street:
Moe: At this time I would now like to open the public hearing on CUP 09-010 for
Spartan Training and start with the staff report, please.
Wafters: Thank you, Chairman Moe, Members of the Commission. The next
application before you is a Conditional Use Permit request for an indoor recreation
facility in an I-L, light industrial district, as required by UDC Table 11-2C-2. The site is
located at 760 East King Street, Suite 102, and is currently zoned I-L. The site is
currently surrounded by industrial property, zoned I-L and commercial property zoned
C-G. There is an existing 12,288 square foot multi-tenant building on this site that the
applicant proposes to operate a personal training and fitness facility in a 1,632 square
foot tenant space. Used fitness equipment will also be sold upon request. The
proposed use is subject to the specific use standards listed in UDC 11-4-3-2 for indoor
recreation facilities. A site plan was submitted with this application that depicts the
existing building, parking, landscaping and access to the site. No written testimony has
been received on this application and staff is recommending approval of the Conditional
Use Permit as requested by the applicant. Staff will stand for any questions the
Commission may have at this time.
Moe: Thank you. Any questions of staff? Okay. Thank you very much. Would the
applicant like to come forward, please. And, please, state your name and address for
the record, please.
Hill: Steven Hill and I own the building at 760 East King Street.
Moe: And the staff report, your approval of all conditions?
Hill: Right. I read that.
Moe: Okay. Any questions?
Rohm: I have no questions.
Marshall: No.
Moe: Okay. Thank you very much.
Hill: Thank you.
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Moe: There was one person signed up and that would be Paul, I believe. And Ican't --
okay. Did you want to come up. From the audience he -- it's not necessary, but you're
on your way, so -- just name and address for the record.
Nichol: Paul Nichol and --
Moe: Address.
Nichol: Address is 760 East King Street.
Moe: Okay. Basically -- so, you're part of the applicant, so you're in agreement with all
the conditions of the staff report?
Nichol: Absolutely.
Moe: Okay. Thank you very much.
Rohm: I have no questions.
Moe: That was all that was on the sign-up sheet. If there is anyone else that would like
to speak to that you're more than welcome to come up now. I see no one coming.
Commissioners, any comments?
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair, I just have one.
Moe: Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
Newton-Huckabay: It seems like this is a very common use in this -- that we get in this
zone. Am I -- for personal training and that type of thing. I wonder if there might be
some value in looking at that as a permitted use in these zones. It's just a question. I
don't have a strong feeling either way.
Canning: Chairman Moe, Members of the Commission, Commissioner Newton-
Huckabay, actually, when we were -- we talked about this a fair amount when we were
developing the UDC. The reason we put it as a conditional use is we are trying to
preserve our industrial properties for industrial uses, but we recognized that athletic or
recreation or dance facilities require large spaces that are built more like industrial
buildings. So, that's why it's a Conditional Use Permit is just to kind of preserve some of
our industrial properties.
Newton-Huckabay: Uh-huh. Okay. Thank you.
Moe: Any other comments, Commissioners? Well, in that case --
Marshall: Mr. Chair, I move that we close the public hearing on CUP 09-010.
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Rohm: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing 09-010. All those in
favor say aye. Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Marshall: Mr. Chair, after considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move
to approve file number CUP 09-010 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date
of December 17th, 2009, with no modifications. I further move to direct staff to prepare
appropriate findings document to be considered at the next Planning and Zoning
Commission hearing on January 7th, 2010.
Rohm: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to approve CUP 09-010 as noted. All those in
favor say aye. Opposed? That motion carries. Thank you very much.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 6: Public Hearing: CUP 09-011 Request for Conditional Use Permit for a
light industry use in a C-G district for Treasure Valley Marine, Inc. by
Bohnenkamp's Whitewater Customs, Inc. - 483 E. Franklin Road:
Moe: At this time I would like to open the public hearing CUP 09-011 for Treasure
Valley Marine and start with the staff report, please.
Wafters: Thank you, Chairman Moe, Members of the Commission. The next
application before you is a Conditional Use Permit request for approval of the light
industry use in a C-G, general commercial zoning district, for Treasure Valley Marine.
The site is located at 483 East Franklin Road. It consists of 2.5 acres and it's currently
zoned C-G. This site is currently surrounded by commercial properties zoned C-G and
industrial property zoned I-L. And here is the site plan showing the existing building
location. It has frontage on both Franklin Road and Scenery back here on the south.
The proposed use consists of the fabrication and assembly of aluminum jet boats for
sale to qualified dealers only. A retail showroom will be contained inside the building.
Outdoor display of products is prohibited unless approved in the future through a new
certificate of zoning compliance and design review application. A certificate of zoning
verification application was approved recently by the planning department for vehicle
sales or rental and service on this site subject to compliance with the specific use
standards listed in UDC 11-4-3-38. No written testimony has been received on this
application and staff is recommending approval of the requested Conditional Use
Permit. Staff will stand for any questions the Commission may have.
Moe: Thank you. Any questions of staff at this time?
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Newton-Huckabay: None at this time.
Moe: No? Okay. Thank you very much. Would the applicant like to come forward,
please. And, again, state your name and address for the record, please.
Bohnenkamp: Chris Bohnenkamp. 483 East Franklin, Meridian.
Moe: On the staff report, you have read it, you agree to all conditions in the report?
Bohnenkamp: Yes.
Moe: Okay. Any questions of the applicant?
Rohm: Yes. I have some questions.
Bohnenkamp: Yeah.
Rohm: Not -- I'm curious more than anything. Are these river boats or --
Bohnenkamp: Yeah. They are, basically, whitewater boats. It's like a Custom Weld or
a Hells Canyon Marine or a Bentz. Basically, what we have done is we are just trying to
bring something like this into the Treasure Valley. There is no other boat manufacturers
in the Treasure Valley and, you know, we see -- you know, I used to own the Custom
Weld dealership on Meridian Road up here next door to Les Schwab and we closed that
down and kind of went on our own route to start building boats, but, you know, we are
seeing ten million dollars a year in revenue go to Lewiston, Idaho, when we can be
generating that here in our own facility, so -- I mean over time we believe that we can
grow a pretty good deal there, so --
Rohm: Great. I just wanted to --
Bohnenkamp: You'll have to come by and see it. I mean we -- I, actually, build one out
in my garage here sometime back and it's in the showroom down there right now, so --
Rohm: Great.
Bohnenkamp: -- you can kind of see the design that we have got. It turned out really
awesome.
Rohm: Well, good. We -- I applaud your efforts.
Bohnenkamp: Well, appreciate it.
Moe: Great. Thank you. Okay. As far as the sign-up sheet, there was no one signed.
up. There is only two other people out there and neither one are jumping up and
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wanting to come talk, I guess, so, therefore, Commissioners? Any questions or
additional comments?
Newton-Huckabay: I only have one comment if I may.
Moe: Uh-huh.
Newton-Huckabay: I just -- I went in -- the original business that went in here was -- in
this building was industrial -- more industrial, so those are an appropriate place for it.
still am not thrilled about it as much as -- I always envision that being much more
commercial than flex space, but it's turned out -- but this looks -- as far as the business
goes, I think it's a great opportunity to fill an empty building, so wish them all the luck.
Moe: That's exactly my point. When I saw that something was there, it's good to see
that they are occupying the facility, as opposed to this being another empty building in
town. So, I applaud you for the simple fact that you're trying to get something going
here.
Newton-Huckabay: I think because it's one of the -- that building which is an industrial
building was one of the first ones there that's going to kind of set the tone in that C-G
area to be more --
Canning: Chairman Moe? Chairman Moe, Commissioners, Commissioner
Newton-Huckabay, there is actually a bank going in on the corner that doesn't have an
industrial look to it, so if that eases your concerns at all. Also this is a -- there is,
actually, two uses going on in the building, so -- there is a commercial retail use with the
boat sales and service and, then, this industrial one going on in the same place. So, it
would have been -- he couldn't have done it in a purer industrial zone, because of the
sales aspect.
Newton-Huckabay: Uh-huh. Hybrid use. And it's really not, I guess, that building that
drives the industrial look, it's the one to the west of it, probably, that is retail. But other
than that I have no issues with the business itself and I think it's appropriate.
Marshall: My comments in having that -- that retail end of it is going -- he's going to be
forced -- his hand is going to be forced to keep it somewhat kept up and clean to be
able to present to potential boat salesmen and people that might want to sell there. So,
I am very excited to see some manufacturing coming to town and see this utilized.
Newton-Huckabay: So, Commissioners, can I get some additional moves. Yes.
Marshall: I move we close the public hearing on CUP 09-011.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
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Moe: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on 09-011. All those in
favor say aye. Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Marshall: Mr. Chair?
Moe: Mr. Marshall.
Marshall: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to approve
file number CUP 09-011 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of
December 17th, 2009, with no modifications. I further move to direct staff to prepare an
appropriate findings document to be presented at the next Planning and Zoning
Commission hearing of January 7th, 2010.
Rohm: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to approve CUP 09-011 for Treasure Valley
Marine. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 7: Election of Officers:
Moe: Next item on the agenda is election of officers for the Planning and Zoning
Commission.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair?
Moe: Commissioner Newton-Huckabay.
Newton-Huckabay: I think it's -- there is some concern I would think at this point in
electing officers, since we have two positions on this Commission unfilled at this point.
Moe: And that has been discussed a little bit and the presiding other two
Commissioners that are here have discussed it as well. I don't know if we want to wait
until the other seats are filled or at least go ahead and get a chairman selected this
evening, so that's over with, and, then, they can go with avice-chair when others are
seated.
Marshall: Mr. Chair, my thoughts on that are unless the two of you are to return next
month, to show up with a meeting with no chair or vice-chair might be somewhat
confusing and it might be better to move forward with elections in that assuming
somebody new coming in is probably not going to fill the chair or vice-chair position, my
thoughts are maybe we ought to move forward at this time, simply because of the
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situation being that if we show up to the next meeting without any chair or vice-chair
who is going to sit where.
Moe: Well, as the acting chairman at the present time I would rather have a chairman in
place before I do leave, so -- so we are going to go ahead and open up the nominations
for chairman of Planning and Zoning at this time.
Marshall: Mr. Chair, I'd like to make amotion -- or I'd like to nominate Commissioner
Rohm as chair.
Newton-Huckabay: I'll second that.
Moe: Okay. There is a -- there is -- can't even think tonight. Okay. There is a
nomination and a second for Mr. Michael Rohm to be the chairman of the Planning and
Zoning. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Moe: Commissioner Rohm.
Rohm: I would like to nominate Commissioner Joe Marshall as vice-chairman.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to nominate Joe Marshall as the vice-chairman of
the planning and zoning. All those in favor say aye. Opposed: That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Moe: Congratulations, gentlemen. Before we do adjourn I would just like to say just a
couple things and very quickly. It's been a pleasure working -- working with the city and
you folks. I have learned a lot through Planning and Zoning and all my other years with
the park and rec department and you folks will be missed and I might come around
every once in awhile, but, again, it's been a lot of fun working with the staff, as well as
the Commissioners, and I appreciate the time.
Marshall: Mr. Chair?
Wafters: Likewise, Chairman Moe. Thank you.
Marshall: I would like to thank the two of you for your service and guidance. I can't
think of a better chair. You have done an awesome job and I appreciate the guidance
and patience you have had with me. It's required quite a bit. And Commissioner
Newton-Huckabay, I really appreciate your insight and things. You have swayed me
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many times and I think you have been an awesome representative of the city and I think
you have done an excellent job.
Newton-Huckabay: Thank you.
Marshall: Thank you both.
Moe: Okay. Then, on that note, then, can I get one last motion?
Newton-Huckabay: I move we adjourn.
Rohm: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to adjourn. All those in favor say aye. Opposed?
That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Moe: We are adjourned at 7:25.
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