CommentsPage 1 of 1
Tara Green
From: Matthew Ellsworth
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Tara Green
Cc: C. Caleb Hood
Subject: Comments - 2007 CDBG Action Plan Amendment
Follow Up Flag : Follow up
Flag Status: Green
Attachments: Strander_4-27-2009.pdf; Chester 4-30-2009.pdf; Fastabend 4-17-2009.pdf; Fastabend_4-
20-2009.pdf; Fern_5-5-2009.pdf; Five Mile Creek Pathway; Initial_Point Murphy.pdf;
Reply.pdf; Kouba_5-4-2009.pdf; Mason_4-15-2009.pdf; Ross_5-4-2009.pdf;
Jill
James
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Untitled; Five Mile Creek Pathway; Homeowners Meeting; RE: Board Meeting; RE: Board
Meeting; RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway; RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway; RE: HOA Meeting;
Re: Pathways Info; RE: Sterling Creek Meeting; RE: Sterling Creek; Sterling Creek Meeting;
Sterling Creek
Tara,
The attached comments are for item 14 on Tuesday's draft agenda (5/26). They relate to the 2007 Action Plan
Amendment.
Thanks,
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
5/22/2009
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: ROGER KATHY STRANDER [strander@q.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:56 PM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Red
Regarding the meeting on April 23, 2009 for the Sterling Creek Homeowner's Association
Mr. Ellsworth, thank you for meeting with the homeowners on April 23rd. However, we were very
disappointed to hear at the meeting that there is no plan for a fence along the creekside of the planned
pathway. Most of the owners of these homes have small children who would be in imminent danger of
falling into the creek and drowning without a fence. We would never have bought the home last summer at
1404 N. Inez Place if we knew there would be an opening to that dangerous creek, as our property is
located just a half block from the entrance to the proposed pathway. With the chain link fence in place as it
is now, we know the children are safe and in no danger of falling into the water.
Knowing how small children are attracted to water, this plan is a tragedy waiting to happen. Would you
please consider having some type of fence or barrier next to the water, or another idea would be to place a
culvert through the subdivision for the water to flow through, but would not be a danger to the children.
Surely there must be some solution to this problem.
Please put yourself in our position and imagine that you have small children and live just a short distance
from this proposed open pathway to the creek---what would you do??
We hope to hear from you with any suggestions you may. have. Thank you. Roger and Kathy strander
4/30/2009
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: Faye Chester [f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Homeowners Meeting
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Red
Hi Matt,
Just wanted to say thanks again for coming and speaking to the homeowners. Wish we could have gotten more
people there but they are a pretty hands off group, unfortunately. We'll probably hear from them after its done and
their not happy. I think thats how it usually goes.
Can you tell me again when the public meetings will be held. I have people giving me their input and I think I need
to let them know about the meetings.
Thanks again and good luck on the project.
Marie Chester
President, HOA Sterling Creek
Let me know if you think at some point we should have another meeting about this.
4/30/2009
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: Greg Fastabend [fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:57 PM
To: Steve Siddoway
Cc: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I live in the Danbury Fair subdivision with the proposed pathway behind my house and am quite in favor of the project.
Please keep me informed of any developments and what I can do to help support the project. There were several concerned
homeowners who were at our neighborhood meeting who may oppose the project. How likely are their complaints to
disrupt the pathway project? What needs to be done at this point to ensure that things are successful? I have left both of
you voicemails with a few ideas I have, including adding connectors to the path at Crossbill/Inez and from
Stonehenge/Sandlin. Please let me know what you think. Email is the easiest but feel free to call if you like.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
284-1565
4/30/2009
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: Greg Fastabend [fastabendCa~hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:05 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Cc: 'Doug Mason'; Steve Siddoway
Subject: RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I'm not sure of the name of the woman who voiced the most concerns at our meeting. Maybe Doug knows? She mentioned
that she also lives on Shreveport, near where the Sterling Creek homes begin to sit back to back with our neighborhood. Her
main concerns were trash and noise, based on earlier experience of people using the property as a pathway/hang out area.
I would hope that regularly space trash and dog cleanup stations would go a long way towards helping keep the area clean.
I have talked to a few of my immediate neighbors and they are supportive. Would it be best far them to email, call in or
attend the public hearing? What time does the hearing start?
Unfortunately I am busy Thursday night. Hopefully Doug or another board member can attend.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
__
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:37 AM
To: Greg Fastabend
Cc: Doug Mason; Steve Siddoway
Subject: RE: Fve Mile Creek Pathway
Greg,
Thank you for your questions about and support for this project. First, in response to possible neighborhood opposition, I'd
like to identify the folks who are concerned with the proposed pathway and invite them to discuss the project one more time.
We may be able to include certain design treatments that will ease some of their concerns. The point of the project is to
provide a new amenity for residents, so it will be preferable if everyone can come together on it. If there is still some
opposition after the follow-up discussions, I'll talk to Doug to see what comes next (whether a complete consensus is
necessary among HOA members to grant an easement, if it's up to the Board, or if the group makes the call some other
way). In any event, if you have the names and contact info of people who are concerned please let me know.
As far as ways you can help, the support of you and your neighbors is essential to the success of this project. City Council
will open the public hearing and comment period for use of funds for the pathway on Tuesday (4/21). The comment period
will continue for just over a month. With your permission, I will include your email with any other comments we receive, but
the more feedback about the project the better. Council will also ask for in-person testimony about proposed projects, and it
would be great to have someone from the HOA attend to represent the group. There will be additional opportunities to
provide testimony, and I'll let you know when they are scheduled.
I also have a meeting with members of Sterling Creek HOA on Thursday (4/23) at 6:30 p.m. If you, Doug, or another
representative of the group is available to share Danbury's perspective and participate in the discussion, that would be great.
Please let me know if you are available and would like to attend.
With the additional connections you mentioned, we are planning on a new link to the neighborhood via Inez/Crossbill. We can
look into the link to Sandlin/Stonehenge as well. That connection is part of the City's broader proposed network, but not part
of the Five Mile Creek Pathway. Regardless of the name, it will increase ease of access for pathway users. It will require
contact with one additional property owner, but if he/she is on board and it is not cost prohibitive then it seems appropriate to
include.
4/30/2009
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Thank you again for your support!
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
From: Greg Fastabend [mailto:fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:57 PM
To: Steve Siddoway
Cc: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I live in the Danbury Fair subdivision with the proposed pathway behind my house and am quite in favor of the project.
Please keep me informed of any developments and what I can do to help support the project. There were several concerned
homeowners who were at our neighborhood meeting who may oppose the project. How likely are their complaints to
disrupt the pathway project? What needs to be done at this point to ensure that things are successful? I have left both of
you voicemails with a few ideas I have, including adding connectors to the path at Crossbill/Inez and from
Stonehenge/Sandlin. Please let me know what you think. Email is the easiest but feel free to call if you like.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
284-1565
4/30/2009
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: fernga@cableone.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:11 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Re: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Hi Matt:
Thank you for the email regarding our concerns for the proposed Five Mile Creek Pathway connecting Killdare to the
remainder of Segment H.1 (across the vacant parcel north of Pine). There is an additional concern that needs to be added to
the list:
3. Parking -They have had problems on the cul de sac in front of their house on Killdare with people parking that don't
live there accessing the vacant lot through the gate. There have also been abandoned cars left in front of the gate and fence
that borders the vacant lot. This creates a security problem for the neighbors.
Have a nice day.
Gloria Fern
On Mon May 417:10 , 'Matthew Ellsworth' sent:
Gloria,
Per our conversation this morning, your parents (who live at 1025 N. Killdare) have the following concerns about the proposed
pathway connecting their street to the remainder of Segment H.1 (across the vacant parcel north of Pine):
1. Privacy ~€° They fear that increased foot and bicycle traffic will detract from the privacy that they sought by locating on a cul
de sac street;
2. Noise a€" They are concerned that more traffic will result in more noise from both passers by and loiterers near their house,
which will further detract from their quality of life.
You observe that the benefits of including this connection in the proposed pathway project will be limited, since an additional
connection to the neighborhood is proposed where Petersburg stubs into the same empty parcel just west of Killdare, and that the
limited increase in ease of access does not justify the possible negative impacts of the Killdare connection for your parents. The
Killdare connection would only make the pathway easier to access for residents on Killdare; so unless the City hears otherwise from
your parents€T"~s neighbors on Killdare, that part of the project is not desired by the presumed beneficiaries and should therefore be
removed from the project.
Please let me know if this accurately represents your parents€T^qs feelings about the proposed project.
Thanks!
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
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Tara Green
From: ROGER KATHY STRANDER [strander@q.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:56 PM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Red
Regarding the meeting on April 23, 2009 for the Sterling Creek Homeowner's Association
Mr. Ellsworth, thank you for meeting with the homeowners on April 23rd. However, we were very
disappointed to hear at the meeting that there is no plan for a fence along the creekside of the
planned pathway. Most of the owners of these homes have small children who would be in
imminent danger of falling into the creek and drowning without a fence. We would never have
bought the home last summer at 1404 N. Inez Place if we knew there would be an opening to
that dangerous creek, as our property is located just a half block from the entrance to the
proposed pathway. With the chain link fence in place as it is now, we know the children are safe
and in no danger of falling into the water.
Knowing how small children are attracted to water, this plan is a tragedy waiting to happen.
Would you please consider having some type of fence or barrier next to the water, or another
idea would be to place a culvert through the subdivision for the water to flow through, but would
not be a danger to the children. Surely there must be some solution to this problem. ,
Please put yourself in our position and imagine that you have small children and live just a short
distance from this proposed open pathway to the creek---what would you do??
We hope to hear from you with any suggestions you may have. Thank you. Roger and Kathy
strander
5/22/2009
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Matthew P. Ellsworth
Associate City Plannex•
City of Meridiax>y Planning Department
33 Ew Broadway Avenue
Meridian, Idaho 83642
RE: Meridian Pathways Master Plan
Proposed Pathways through Initial Point Common Areatis
Dear Mr.. Ellsworth:
iVlichaelina (Mia} dlurphy
Charles IvI. Murphy*
"also litxnsed in Utah and Washington
Ihis fum's members are property owners in the Initial Point Subdivision tTPS)., We have
been asked by the members of the Initial Point Owners Association (IPOA) to prepare a written
response to your correspondence dated March 27, 2009, regarding the above-referenced matter..
IPOA recognizes the utility of'the proposed Pathways project; however, the members of
1FOA have legitimate concerns about the proposal you forwarded in your March 27s'
correspondence.. Specifically, the project as described in your letter appears to create a pathway
system along the rear {south side) of'the IPOA common areas. This area is not easily monitored
from Fairview Avenue, the main thoroughfare, or perpendicularly via East Sa' Street. In fact, the
o~Y m~~Y access ~ ~ subdivision is $'oxn Fairview Avenue via North Lakes.. We believe
that a pathway sited so far from the moan roadway would provide increased opportunities fox
theft and vandalism,
Has the Meridian Police Department {MPD) been apprised of this proposal, and if sa,
what is its position regarding the likelx~rood of increases in property crime to IPS? Is there a plan
by MPD to increase its patrol presence in this area? Is there funding available for such an
increase in patrols to the area?
Pursuant to the UNIFIED DEYELOPMEIVT CODE OF THE CITY OF MERIDL~IN, two
(2) of the stated goals of'the ordinance axe to: (1) Ensure the most appropriate use of properties,
and (2) Protect property rights and enhance property values.. Unified Development Code of the
City of Meridian, § 11-1-2 (E) 8c {F). Arguably, the Pathways project as currently envisioned
places significant pressure upon these goals far property owners in the IPS•.
S47 E Fairview Ave. Meridian, ID 83642 • (208) 855-2200, Fax (208) 555-0873 • www. murphylawoffice.com
Letter Matthew Ellsworth
Dated April 9, 20Q9
Page 2
In our opinion, creating a pedestrian access point along the reaz• of IPS has the potential to
create a sigr2ificant increase in theft and vandalism to the structures and buildings located within
IPS.. We already have issues with illegal dumping in and property damage to our• garbage
containers during evening and weekend hours.. Arguably, a pedestrian access point located at the
southern edge of the lPS common area will lead to increased problems for building owners and
businesses located in 1P5.,
At present, the members of IPOA cannot support the placement of pathways through the
common area of IPS.. We regret any inconvenience this may cause the City of Meridian and its
citizens .
Yours very truly,
MURPHY LAW OFFICE, PLLC
~~~
Charles M.. Murphy
CMM
cc: Members of'Initial Point Owners Association
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: Matthew Ellsworth
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:46 AM
To: 'Jim and Jill'
Subject: RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Jill and James,
I'm looking into exactly how things will play out with this project and into the future and will follow-up with you as soon as I
have a handle on it.
Thanks!
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
From: ]im and Jill [mailto:pagejj@cableone.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:22 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Re: Fve Mile Creek Pathway
Dear Matthew Ellsworth,
My husband and I would not stay in this home if we lost the privacy
of our backyard. We are currently
wanting to remodel our home but
have put the plans on hold until we fmd out what the city is planning.
Is it possible for you to get a definite
yes or no on this issue of the pathway? Thank you very much..
Jill and James S. Page
953 North Maple Creek
Meridian, Idaho
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Ellsworth
To: pagejjCa~cableone.net
Cc: jpageCa~bonnevilleblue.com
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:07 AM
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Jill,
Thank you for your call today regarding the proposed Five Mile Creek pathway. To recap our conversation, you and your
husband live at 953 N. Maple Creek Avenue, and you favor the project. While you feel it will benefit the area, you want to
make sure that privacy in your backyard is maintained. You currently have a solid wood fence (not see through), and so
long as there is not and will not be a requirement to make the fence see through with construction of this project or in the
future, you support the proposed pathway.
Please let me know if this accurately summarizes your feelings about the project. If I missed anything or am
misrepresenting your comments, please let me know.
I will submit your input into the public record, and include it with other comments to Council when they consider the funding
for design of the pathway. Council is tentatively scheduled to consider the proposed project at the regular City Council
5/21/2009
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meeting on May 26th. If you would like to provide in person testimony at that time, you are welcome to do so.
Thank you again for weighing in on this proposed project.
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
5/21/2009
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: LaMont Kouba [Lalynko@speedyquick.netj
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:48 PM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Re: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Matt Ellsworth;Your letter accurately describes what we discussed this morning. One item that I forgot to mention is the parking
problum along the east side of our street(the Johnson axcess easment). The carwash owners are telling their employees they
have the right to park on the easment street becarse it is a private easment. Initial Point owner assoc. have tried to stop them from
parking along our easment because it Greats a traffic problum when the car wash gets busy. If this easment is to be used as a bike-
walking path there would need to be (No Parking) signs Installed and enforced. This is just another issue that needs to be
considered in future meetings. Thanks LaMont Kouba---- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Ellsworth
To: IalvnkoC~speedyquick.net
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Mr. Kouba,
Thank you for calling today with input on the proposed Five Mile Creek Pathway project. To recap our conversation:
1. We discussed reasons why the pathway alignment strays from the creek as it approaches Fairview, and traverses the
southern edge of Initial Point's common lot. That alignment provides a safe, signalized crossing of Fairview Ave. for
pathway users.
2. You pointed out that the roadway access to Initial Point is on a private easement from the property owner east of the
business park (Johnson). The extension of Lakes south of Fairview is a private lane that will require additional
conversations with the property owner and tenant (car dealership) as it is not public right-of-way.
3. Vandalism is a concern for property and business owners in Initial Point. An increased formal (seasonal Police patrols and
periodic Parks Department maintenance activity) and informal (other pathway users) monitoring presence may decrease
the likelihood of vandalism or other illegal activity in this area.
4. It is also important to keep pathway users off of (1) the drainage area in the southwest corner of Initial Point's common lot
and (2) the drive isle that provides access to and parking for the buildings set back from Fairview/the private lane (south of
Lakes). Installation of signage, fencing, and curbing will be discussed and incorporated in the design of this pathway as
means to clearly delineate the public pathway easement from private property.
5. I indicated that I've spoken to Kay Ballard and Charles Murphy about this project. Mr. Murphy indicated in a letter that
Initial Point Owners Association does not support the project at this time. I requested time to speak to Mr. Murphy and/or
any representatives of the OA about this project and different ways that we may be able to address any concerns of
property or business owners near the proposed project.
With the understanding that certain design elements must be part of this project to minimize the chances of vandalism or other
property damage resulting from increased foot and bicycle traffic in this area, and to clearly mark where the private realm ends
and private property begins, you indicated that you are ok with the project.
Please let me know if this accurately summarizes our conversation and your take on this proposed pathway. The City will
continue the dialogue with the other members of Initial Point OA and, should the project proceed to design, look to all interested
parties in the design process so that we include appropriate pathway elements to make this a safe and beneficial facility.
Thanks again,
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
5/5/2009
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: Doug Mason [dmason@sscwaste.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:33 PM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: HOA Meeting
Matt, Thank you for putting that on for us. I feel it was well received. Please keep me advised on currant changes. Regards Doug
Mason
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:23 AM
To: Doug Mason
Cc: LeClaire, Tom; Steve Siddoway
Subject: HOA Meeting
Doug,
I wanted to thank you again for getting us in front of your HOA to present the proposed Five Mile Creek Pathway project. I think the
discussion went well, and I'm hopeful that we can work with the Association to address any outstanding concerns through the design
process. To recap, the main issues raised were:
1. Safety/Liability: One member expressed concern over encouraging the public to use a facility that is not physically separated
from the creek. To address this concern, I proposed the possibility of education through various means (flyers, signage, etc.)
to make people aware of potential safety risks that may result from misuse of the proposed pathway and adjacent irrigation
facilities. On the legal side, I mentioned an Idaho Code provision that releases private property owners from liability in
instances in which they allow a recreational easement for public use. Additional information about that provision is attached.
2. Security: Members asked what steps the City will take to deter illegal activities on the pathway and adjacent properties. I
responded that the Meridian Police Department is expanding its bicycle patrols, and this proposed pathway seems a likely
candidate. We can engage the Police Department in further discussions of this possibility, frequency of patrols, etc., prior to
pathway construction. Several members were also supportive of day-use-only rules on the pathway, and that is certainly
something we can consider. Consensus was not achieved among members on this issue, so I'm interested in your thoughts.
3. Maintenance: The City will assume maintenance of pathways if (1) the pathway connects two major streets, (2) the pathway
segment is at least'/z mile long, and (3) public access is granted. Pending public access granted by the HOA, the proposed
pathway meets all three criteria.
Please let me know if there are other issues that I missed. Also, the City will begin the public comment period to allow the use of
federal grant funds for this project on April 21. The comment period will run for a minimum of 30 days. If you or any of your
neighbors would like to weigh in, please let me know.
Finally, I'm scheduled to meet with the Sterling Creek HOA on Thursday, April 23 at 6:30. If you are available to attend it may be
good to (1) convey Danbury's initial response to the proposed project and (2) hear any thoughts or concerns that they may have.
Please let me know if this is something that you have time for and/or interest in.
Thanks again -
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
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Matthew Ellsworth
From: Bev Ross [Bev@BevRossRealty.com]
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 6:32 PM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
We awn the property at 8,88 Ashford ®nd I think that the p4fhwuy will be a wonderful asset to the areo. Good Luck
andget if done soon.
S/'t~eaci jo~~!
Bev@Be vRossReQ/ty. com
www. Be vRossReal ty, com
208-345-7555 Direct
208-730-5791 Fax
We'll be FINE In 2009
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Tara Green
From: Doug Mason [dmason@sscwaste.com]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:18 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Good Morning Matt, The meeting time and place will 4-09-09 @ 7:OOpm. Micro Tool 100. I have been talking
with my people and so far everyone likes the idea of a greenbelt. Regards Doug Mason
5/22/2009
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Tara Green
From: Greg Fastabend [fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:57 PM
To: Steve Siddoway
Cc: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I live in the Danbury Fair subdivision with the proposed pathway behind my house and am quite in favor of the
project. Please keep me informed of any developments and what I can do to help support the project. There
were several concerned homeowners who were at our neighborhood meeting who may oppose the project.
How likely are their complaints to disrupt the pathway project? What needs to be done at this point to ensure
that things are successful? I have left both of you voicemails with a few ideas I have, including adding
connectors to the path at Crossbill/Inez and from Stonehenge/Sandlin. Please let me know what you think.
Email is the easiest but feel free to call if you like.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
284-1565
5/22/2009
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Tara Green
From: Faye Chester [f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:28 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Homeowners Meeting
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Red
Hi Matt,
Just wanted to say thanks again for coming and speaking to the homeowners. Wish we could have
gotten more people there but they are a pretty hands off group, unfortunately. We'll probably hear from
them after its done and their not happy. I think thats how it usually goes.
Can you tell me again when the public meetings will be held. I have people giving me their input and I
think I need to let them know about the meetings.
Thanks again and good luck on the project.
Marie Chester
President, HOA Sterling Creek
Let me know if you think at some point we should have another meeting about this.
5/22/2009
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Tara Green
From: Doug Mason [dmason@sscwaste.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:08 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: Board Meeting
Good Morning Matt, We are getting together at 7:OOpm just need to figure out where. Doug
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:05 AM
To: Doug Mason
Subject: Board Meeting
Doug,
Did the Board nail down a time and place for the meeting tomorrow?
Thanks,
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
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Tara Green
From: Doug Mason [dmason@sscwaste.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:14 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: Board Meeting
Gaod Morning Matt, the meeting will be at Kelly Lamp's house. I will be today to see Sonya. I will stop and see you.
Doug
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:54 AM
To: Doug Mason
Subject: RE: Board Meeting
Thanks Doug. If you need space please let me know and I can line up something at City Hall. Otherwise, please let me
know what you come up with.
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
From: Doug Mason [mailto:dmason@sscwaste.com]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:08 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: Board Meeting
Good Morning Matt, We are getting together at 7:OOpm just need to figure out where. Doug
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:05 AM
To: Doug Mason
Subject: Board Meeting
Doug,
Did the Board nail down a time and place for the meeting tomorrow?
Thanks,
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
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Tara Green
From: Greg Fastabend [fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:05 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Cc: 'Doug Mason ;Steve Siddoway
Subject: RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I'm not sure of the name of the woman who voiced the most concerns at our meeting. Maybe Doug knows?
She mentioned that she also lives on Shreveport, near where the Sterling Creek homes begin to sit back to back
with our neighborhood. Her main concerns were trash and noise, based on earlier experience of people using
the property as apathway/hang out area. I would hope that regularly space trash and dog cleanup stations
would go a long way towards helping keep the area clean.
I have talked to a few of my immediate neighbors and they are supportive. Would it be best for them to email,
call in or attend the public hearing? What time does the hearing start?
Unfortunately I am busy Thursday night. Hopefully Doug or another board member can attend.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:37 AM
To: Greg Fastabend
Cc: Doug Mason; Steve Siddoway
Subject: RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Greg,
Thank you for your questions about and support for this project. First, in response to possible neighborhood
opposition, I'd like to identify the folks who are concerned with the proposed pathway and invite them to discuss
the project one more time. We may be able to include certain design treatments that will ease some of their
concerns. The point of the project is to provide a new amenity for residents, so it will be preferable. if everyone
can come together on it. If there is still some opposition after the follow-up discussions, I'll talk to Doug to see
what comes next (whether a complete consensus is necessary among HOA members to grant an easement, if it's
up to the Board, or if the group makes the call some other way). In any event, if you have the names and contact
info of people who are concerned please let me know.
As far as ways you can help, the support of you and your neighbors is essential to the success of this project.
City Council will open the public hearing and comment period for use of funds for the pathway on Tuesday (4/21).
The comment period will continue for just over a month. With your permission, I will include your email with any
other comments we receive, but the more feedback about the project the better. Council will also ask for in-
person testimony about proposed projects, and it would be great to have someone from the HOA attend to
represent the group. There will be additional opportunities to provide testimony, and I'll let you know when they
are scheduled.
I also have a meeting with members of Sterling Creek HOA on Thursday (4/23) at 6:30 p.m. If you, Doug, or
another representative of the group is available to share Danbury's perspective and participate in the discussion,
that would be great. Please let me know if you are available and would like to attend.
With the additional connections you mentioned, we are planning on a new link to the neighborhood via
Inez/Crossbill. We can look into the link to Sandlin/Stonehenge as well. That connection is part of the City's
broader proposed network, but not part of the Five Mile Creek Pathway. Regardless of the name, it will increase
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ease of access for pathway users. It will require contact with one additional property owner, but if he/she is on
board and it is not cost prohibitive then it seems appropriate to include.
Thank you again for your support!
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
From: Greg Fastabend [mailto:fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:57 PM
To: Steve Siddoway
Cc: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I live in the Danbury Fair subdivision with the proposed pathway behind my house and am quite in favor of the
project. Please keep me informed of any developments and what I can do to help support the project. There
were several concerned homeowners who were at our neighborhood meeting who may oppose the project.
How likely are their complaints to disrupt the pathway project? What needs to be done at this point to ensure
that things are successful? I have left both of you voicemails with a few ideas I have, including adding
connectors to the path at Crossbill/Inez and from Stonehenge/Sandlin. Please let me know what you think.
Email is the easiest but feel free to call if you like.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
284-1565
5/22/2009
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Tara Green
From: Greg Fastabend [fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 200910:08 PM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Red
Just wondering how the HOA meeting with Sterling Creek went.
Thanks,
Greg Fastabend
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:19 AM
To: Greg Fastabend
Cc: Doug Mason; Steve Siddoway
Subject: RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Greg,
Here is a link to the agenda for tomorrow's Council Meeting, during which Council will open the public hearing on
funds for this project:
http~//www meridiancity org/city clerk/images/Your Uploaded Images/09april21 %20approved%20agenda ~df
From the looks of the agenda I can't imagine that the hearing will begin before 7:30 (it may even be closer to
8:30), but you never know.
I'm hopeful that the woman who voiced concerns at the HOA meeting attends tomorrow so that I can meet her
and get her contact info. It looked like she wrote down the date when I mentioned it.
Any way of providing input is appreciated, whether it's in person testimony, email, mail, etc. Understanding how
busy people are, email may be the way to go for now. If there is a fair amount of pushback then providing
testimony in person later in the process may be an effective way to convey your perspective to Council.
Thanks again,
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
From: Greg Fastabend [mailto:fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:05 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Cc: 'Doug Mason'; Steve Siddoway
Subject: ItE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I'm nat sure of the name of the woman who voiced the most concerns at our meeting. Maybe Doug knows?
She mentioned that she also lives on Shreveport, near where the Sterling Creek homes begin to sit back to back
with our neighborhood. Her main concerns were trash and noise, based on earlier experience of people using
the property as apathway/hang out area. I would hope that regularly space trash and dog cleanup stations
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would go a long way towards helping keep the area clean.
1 have talked to a few of my immediate neighbors and they are supportive. Would it be best for them to email,
call in or attend the public hearing? What time does the hearing start?
Unfortunately I am busy Thursday night. Hopefully Doug or another board member can attend.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:37 AM
To: Greg Fastabend
Cc: Doug Mason; Steve Siddoway
Subject: RE: Five Mile Creek Pathway
Greg,
Thank you for your questions about and support for this project. First, in response to possible neighborhood
opposition, 1'd like to identify the folks who are concerned with the proposed pathway and invite them to discuss
the project one more time. We may be able to include certain design treatments that will ease some of their
concerns. The point of the project is to provide a new amenity for residents, so it will be preferable if everyone
can come together on it. If there is still some opposition after the follow-up discussions, I'll talk to Doug to see
what comes next (whether a complete consensus is necessary among HOA members to grant an easement, if it's
up to the Board, or if the group makes the call some other way). In any event, if you have the names and contact
info of people who are concerned please let me know.
As far as ways you can help, the support of you and your neighbors is essential to the success of this project.
City Council will open the public hearing and comment period for use of funds for the pathway on Tuesday (4/21).
The comment period will continue for just over a month. With your permission, I will include your email with any
other comments we receive, but the more feedback about the project the better. Council will also ask for in-
person testimony about proposed projects, and it would be great to have someone from the HOA attend to
represent the group. There will be additional opportunities to provide testimony, and I'll let you know when they
are scheduled.
I also have a meeting with members of Sterling Creek HOA on Thursday (4/23) at 6:30 p.m. If you, Doug, or
another representative of the group is available to share Danbury's perspective and participate in the discussion,
that would be great. Please let me know if you are available and would like to attend.
With the additional connections you mentioned, we are planning on a new link to the neighborhood via
Inez/Crossbill. We can look into the link to Sandlin/Stonehenge as well. That connection is part of the City's
broader proposed network, but not part of the Five Mile Creek Pathway. Regardless of the name, it will increase
ease of access for pathway users. It will require contact with one additional property owner, but if he/she is on
board and it is not cost prohibitive then it seems appropriate to include.
Thank you again for your support!
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
From: Greg Fastabend [mailto:fastabend@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:57 PM
To: Steve Siddoway
Cc: Matthew Ellsworth
5/22/2009
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Subject: Five Mile Creek Pathway
I live in the Danbury Fair subdivision with the proposed pathway behind my house and am quite in favor of the
project. Please keep me informed of any developments and what I can do to help support the project. There
were several concerned homeowners who were at our neighborhood meeting who may oppose the project.
How likely are their complaints to disrupt the pathway project? What needs to be done at this point to ensure
that things are successful? I have left both of you voicemails with a few ideas I have, including adding
connectors to the path at Crossbill/Inez and from Stonehenge/Sandlin. Please let me know what you think.
Email is the easiest but feel free to call if you like.
Sincerely,
Greg Fastabend
284-1565
5/22/2009
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Tara Green
From: Doug Mason [dmason@sscwaste.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:33 PM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: HOA Meeting
Matt, Thank you for putting that on for us. I feel it was well received. Please keep me advised on currant changes.
Regards Doug Mason
From: Matthew Ellsworth [mailto:mellsworth@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:23 AM
To: Doug Mason
Cc: LeClaire, Tom; Steve Siddoway
Subject: HOA Meeting
Doug,
I wanted to thank you again for getting us in front of your HOA to present the proposed Five Mile Creek Pathway
project. I think the discussion went well, and I'm hopeful that we can work with the Association to address any
outstanding concerns through the design process. To recap, the main issues raised were:
1. Safety/Liability: One member expressed concern over encouraging the public to use a facility that is not
physically separated from the creek. To address this concern, I proposed the possibility of education through
various means (flyers, signage, etc.) to make people aware of potential safety risks that may result from misuse
of the proposed pathway and adjacent irrigation facilities. On the legal side, I mentioned an Idaho Code
provision that releases private property owners from liability in instances in which they allow a recreational
easement for public use. Additional information about that provision is attached.
2. Security: Members asked what steps the City will take to deter illegal activities on the pathway and adjacent
properties. I responded that the Meridian Police Department is expanding its bicycle patrols, and this proposed
pathway seems a likely candidate. We can engage the Police Department in further discussions of this
possibility, frequency of patrols, etc., prior to pathway construction. Several members were also supportive of
day-use-only rules on the pathway, and that is certainly something we can consider. Consensus was not
achieved among members on this issue, so I'm interested in your thoughts.
3. Maintenance: The City will assume maintenance of pathways if (1) the pathway connects two major streets, (2)
the pathway segment is at least'/Z mile long, and (3) public access is granted. Pending public access granted by
the HOA, the proposed pathway meets all three criteria.
Please let me know if there are other issues that I missed. Also, the City will begin the public comment period to allow
the use of federal grant funds for this project on April 21. The comment period will run for a minimum of 30 days. If you
or any of your neighbors would like to weigh in, please let me know.
Finally, I'm scheduled to meet with the Sterling Creek HOA on Thursday, April 23 at 6:30. If you are available to attend
it may be good to (1) convey Danbury's initial response to the proposed project and (2) hear any thoughts or concerns
that they may have. Please let me know if this is something that you have time for and/or interest in.
Thanks again -
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
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Tara Green
From: Faye Chester [f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:13 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Re: Pathways Info
Matt,
Thank you for taking the time to speak with me this morning. I will work towards a meeting the week of
the 21st on a Wednesday or Thursday. I will let you know.
Marie Chester
--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Matthew Ellsworth 4nellswortht~jneridiancity.org> wrote:
From: Matthew Ellsworth <mellsworth@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Pathways Info
To: f55cmeri@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, Apri17, 2009, 9:09 AM
Meri,
Information about the Idaho Recreational Use Statutes we discussed this morning is attached. Also,
here is a link to the City's full Plan:
http~//www meridiancity org/parks rec/dots/masterpathwayplanoctober2007 pdf
Section 5-7 (page 124 of the pdf) discusses privacy and other possible concerns with this sort of project,
and presents strategies that have been successful in other areas to address those concems and create a
safe, usable, and enjoyable system.
Please let me know if more info would be helpful.
I look forward to meeting you.
Thanks,
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
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Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
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Tara Green
From: Faye Chester [f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 7:01 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: Sterling Creek Meeting
Matt,
I'll make some copies and have them available if people want them. I don't think you'll need powerpoint.
See you tomorrow.
Marie
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Matthew Ellsworth 4nellsworthta'~jneYidiancity.oYg> wrote:
From: Matthew Ellsworth <mellsworth@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: Sterling Creek Meeting
To: f55cmeri@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, Apri121, 2009, 10:37 AM
Marie,
The attached °Intro_Benefits" pdf provides some of the reasons why the City feels this sort of network is
a benefit to the community. Also attached is the safety section of the Plan, which brushes on some
important design elements that can create a safe and beneficial system (for both users and nearby
property owners). The liability section is immediately after the safety section (same pdf).
I also have a PowerPoint presentation that can help to spark the discussion. I can either reserve a
laptop computer and projector from the City (if there is a wall, or somewhere to project) or print copies for
attendees (or both). Please let me know what works for you.
Thank you again for the opportunity to introduce this project to you and your neighbors!
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
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From: Faye Chester [mailto: f55cmeri@yahoo.com ]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:50 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Sterling Creek Meeting
Hi Matt,
I thought I would make a few copies of information from the master plan to hand out at the
meeting. I am going to do the Available Legal Options which I know that liability is a concern.
Can you think of anything else that might be helpful?
Thank you.
Marie
Sterling Creek HOA
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Tara Green
From: Faye Chester [f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 200911:08 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: RE: Sterling Creek
Matt,
We are going to have it my house at 1202 N. Cathy Avenue. Based on attendance at most of our
meetings I think it will hold everyone but I am going to ask them to rsvp. If it changes I'll let you know.
Have a good weekend.
Marie
--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Matthew Ellsworth 4nellsworth@meridiancity.org> wrote:
From: Matthew Ellsworth <mellsworth@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: Sterling Creek
To: f55cmeri@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 9:57 AM
Marie,
The info that went out in the mail is attached. The 23~d at 6:30 will work just fine. Please let me know
when you confirm the location and I'll be there.
Thanks again for your help!
Matt Ellsworth
Associate City Planner
Meridian Planning Department
33 E. Broadway Ave.
Meridian, ID 83642
208.884.5533
From: Faye Chester [mailto:f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:37 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Sterling Creek
Hi Matt,
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Is it possible for you to a-mail the black and white map that you mailed me? I forgot to grab it
and I need to send out and notice and thought it might be helpful.
We are planning on Thusday the 23rd at 6:30 p.m. Let me know if that won't work.
Thank you! ! !
Marie
5/22/2009
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Tara Green
From: Faye Chester [f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 9:50 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Sterling Creek Meeting
Hi Matt,
I thought I would make a few copies of information from the master plan to hand out at the meeting. I
am going to do the Available Legal Options which I know that liability is a concern. Can you think of
anything else that might be helpful?
Thank you.
Marie
Sterling Creek HOA
5/22/2009
Page 1 of 1
Tara Green
From: Faye Chester [f55cmeri@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:37 AM
To: Matthew Ellsworth
Subject: Sterling Creek
Hi Matt,
Is it possible for you to a-mail the black and white map that you mailed me? I forgot to grab it and I
need to send out and notice and thought it might be helpful.
We are planning on Thusday the 23rd at 6:30 p.m. Let me know if that won't work.
Thank you! ! !
Marie
5/22/2009