1993 04-13
MERIDIAN PLANNING E ZONING
AGENDA
TUESDAY, APRIL 13, 1993 - 7:30 P. M.
COUNCIL CHRMBERS
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD MARCH 9, 1993:
(APPROVED)
1: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT FOR L.B. PROPERTIES TO ALLOW AUTO REPAIR AND PRINT
SHOP: (APPROVED)
2: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REZONE REQUEST FOR
JIM BANDUCCI AND BEDELCD FROM R-4 TO R-8 TO RLLOW DUPLEX
UNITS: (APPROVED)
3: FINDINGS OF FACT RND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: ANNEXATION &
ZONING BY CHERRY LANE DEVELOPMENT: R-4 ZONING, PORTION OF
CHERRY LANE DEVELOPMENT. (RPPROVED>
4: FINDINGS OF FACT RND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: PHEASANT POINTE
SUBDIVISION: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-8 WITH
PRELIMINARY PLRT: (APPROVED)
5: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SCHOOL PLAZA
SUBDIVISION: 4 LOTS, ZONED R-15: (MOTION DIED FOR LRCK OF A
2ND)
6: PUBLIC HEARING: ANNEXATION AND ZONING REQUEST BV HIMERICH 8
DORADO DEVELOPMENT: (FINDINGS TO BE PREPARED)
7: PUBLIC HERRING: ANNEXATION RND R-8 ZONING REQUEST CONIFER
SUBDIVISION WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT AND VARIANCE OF CULDESAC
LENGTH TD 790 FEET: (FINDINGS TO BE PREPARED - PRELIMINARY
PLAT APPROVED)
8: PUBLIC HERRING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH
PRELIMINARY PLRT FOR WINGATE SUBDIVISION: (FINDINGS TO BE
PREPARED - PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVED)
9: VACATION OF EASEMENT FDR MICHELS AND MICHELS: (APPROVED)
MERIDIRN PLRNNING & ZONING APRIL 13, 1993
The Regular Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning
Commission was called to order by Chairman Jim Johnson at 7:30
P. M. .
Members Present: Moe Alidjani, Tim Hepper, Jim Shearer:
Member Absent: Charlie Rountree:
Others Present: Bill Brewer, Raleigh Hawe, Gary Lee, Dan Wood,
Ruth Hunter, Wayne Crookston, Jeff Huber, Bob Angel, Raleigh
Howe, Larry Sale, Becky Bowcutt, Greg Hon o, Gary Kuhn, John
Douda, Natalie Boyer, Richard Bayer:
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD MARCH 9, 1993:
The Motion was made by Rlidjani and seconded by Shearer to
approve the minutes of the previous meeting held March 9, 1993 as
written:
Motion Carried: All Yea
ITEM #1: FINDINGS OF FACT RND CONCLUSIONS OF LRW: CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT FOR L.H. PROPERTIES TO ALLOW AUTO REPAIR AND PAINT
SHOP:
Johnson: Any comments or discussion about these Findings?
Wayne Thowless, Lathom & Cron Architects, in reviewing these
Findings of Facts that were received by our client, we noticed
one item in here which we have a question about. It did in fact,
as we looked more closely occur in the original Findings of Fact
also and it was just missed by both us and our clients. It has
to do with the landscape screening around the perimeter of the
property. Item D an Page 8 says that the vegetation shall not be
allowed to grow more than 20' tall but shall be watered and
fertilized to encourage as much growth as soon as passible. You
will recall that in our revised development plan we proposed the
use of Ponderosa Pines as landscape screening. I think we're all
aware that Ponderosa Pines grow much taller than 20' at maturity.
There didn't seem to be any objection to Ponderosa Pines when
they were proposed and our client would like to not have to go
out there after a few years and keep them pruned at the 20'
height. Our question is I guess why that is in there?
Crookston: The reason that that's in there is because of an
interference of view towards the mountains from the houses.
Johnson: We appreciate your comment and that will be passed on
to the City Council also.
The Motion was made by Rlidjani and seconded by Shearer that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
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Roll Call Vote: Hepper - Yea; Rountree - Absent; Shearer - Yea;
Rlidjani - Yea;
Motion Carried: R11 Yea:
The Motion was made by Alidjani and seconded by Shearer that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the
City Council of the City of Meridian that the City Council review
these findings and, if desired by the City Council, change, alter
or amend the conditions stated herein, and that if the conditions
are agreed to and met by the Applicant, the Meridian Planning and
Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the City Council of the
City of Meridian that the City Council approve the conditional
use permit; that the Commission further recommends that all
construction, new and remodel, including buildings and vegetation
planting, be subject to Design Review; that the conditional use
permit be reviewed annually for compliance with the conditions
stated herein, and if there is not compliance, that the
conditional use permit be revoked. That as an additional
condition all irrigation facilities must be maintained such they
continue to deliver water as it was delivered prior to
development and if there are irrigation canals, drainages or
other means of conveying water, located on the property that they
be tiled.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM it2: FINDINGS OF FRCT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW: REZONE
REQUEST FOR JIM BRNDUCCI AND BEDELCO FROM R-4 TO R-8 TO ALLOW
DUPLEX UNITS:
Johnson: Any discussion?
Hepper: Stated in Findings on second to last page that it states
"hereby denies" and it should be "hereby approved."
Crookston: It's just a carry over from the previous Findings in
this matter, it should be "approves."
The Motion was made by Hepper and seconded by Shearer that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby approves these
Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
Roll Call Vote: Hepper - Yea; Rountree - Absent; Shearer - Yea;
Alidjani - Yea;
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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The Motion was made by Hepper and seconded by Shearer that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the
City Council of the City of Meridian that if the Rpplicant agrees
with these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law that a
Development Agreement be entered into which includes the
provisions of these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and
recommends that the rezone Application be approved as modified
above. It is further recommended that if the Applicants do not
agree with these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law that the
Application be denied.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #3: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CDNCLUSIDNS OF LAW: RNNEXATION 8
ZONING BY CHERRY LRNE DEVELOPMENT: R-4 ZONING, PORTION OF CHERRY
LRNE DEVELOPMENT:
Johnson: Any discussion? No response.
The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
Roll Call Vote: Hepper - Yea; Rountree - Absent; Shearer - Yea;
Rlidjani - Yea;
Motion Carried: R11 Yea:
The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the
City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the
annexation and zoning as stated above in the Conclusions of Law
for the property described in the application with the conditions
set forth in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and that
the Applicants be specifically required to the all ditches,
canals and waterways as a condition of annexation and that the
Applicant meet all of the Drdinances of the City of Meridian,
specifically including the development time requirements and the
conditions of these Findings of Fact and Conclusions and that if
the conditions are not met that the property be de-annexed.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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ITEM #4: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CDNCLUSIONS OF LAW: PHEASANT
POINTE SUBDIVISION: REQUEST FDR RNNEXATION AND ZONING TO R-8
WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT:
Johnson: Any discussion?
Hepper: It states in Findings of Facts that the annexation and
zoning be to an R-8 residential subdivision and at the last
meeting we discussed the minimum square footage of at least 1350
sq. feet and I think we also need the stipulation that there not
be any multi-family housing allowed even though it is R-8 zone.
The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
Roll Call Vote: Hepper - Yea; Rountree - Absent; Shearer - Yea;
Alidjani - Yea;
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani that the
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the
City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the
Annexation and zoning requested by the Applicant for the property
described in the application with the conditions set forth in the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law and that the Applicants
be specifically required to t he all ditches, canals and
waterways as a condition of annexation and that the Applicants
meet all of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian, specifically
including the development time requirements.
Motion Carried: R11 Yea:
The Motion was made by Hepper and seconded by Alidjani to approve
the preliminary plat.
Motion Carried: All Vea:
ITEM #5: PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR SCHOOL PLAZA
SUBDIVISION: 4 LOTS, ZONED R-15:
Alidjani & Shearer - Stepping down due to conflict of interest.
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Johnson: I will open the public hearing at this time.
Keith A. Loveless, Loveless Engineering, 3330 Grace Street,
Boise, was sworn by the attorney.
Loveless: I'm here representing Mr. Alidjani. The property is
the old school grounds, the remaining portion that didn't go into
the new post office facility. We've attempted to split the
property such that the original school building and two other
buildings exist there continue to be used on their own without
being multi buildings upon one lot. We've run into an apparent
problem and one of your comments and we're going to have to ask
for a variance in setbacks. This is in Gary Smith's comments
where we are talking about. It's an existing lot line with which
we're trying to put a lot line between two buildings and we'd
have to request a variance from the City Code at that one point.
We've also, as of today went out and done an assessment on the
street lights, there's one at 2 1/2 and Carlton, one at 2nd and
Carlton, one at Washington and 2 1/2 and another one off the
northeast corner of the property about 75', at that point there's
also a fire hydrant (explained location of other hydrants). The
Fire Department has addressed a concern for the setbacks also and
he they bring up a potential problem with the basement of the
building, which I don't think should affect the plat but only the
occupancy of the building that really needs to be brought to code
when he gets an occupancy permit. I'd be glad to answer any
other questions you may have.
Hepper: It shows on the west property line I believe there was a
notation on one of the plans there for some fencing. Is there
going to be fencing all around the property?
Loveless: Not at this time.
Hepper: Could you tell me where there is going to be fencing?
Loveless: There's existing fencing between us and the post
office all the way on the west property line. There's not
fencing up front next to the parking area but only in the parking
compound behind the building.
Hepper: There wouldn't be any fencing down the property lines
for the various lots or anything?
Loveless: Not at this time. If they decide to do that it would
be from the owner of the lot.
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Hepper: Is there any landscaping or anything like that proposed?
Loveless: Not with the subdivision.
Hepper: Over by the main school it shows a pretty large parking
area, will that parking be included in there?
Loveless: We drew that up to show that we can provide enough
space on that site to provide a parking lot for the square
footage that exists within that building.
Johnson: Do you have any concept regarding the ultimate use of
the lots? The application states combination of use.
Loveless: We anticipate under the R-15 zone probably a potential
multi-family development or some sort. We have no plans for one
at this stage now.
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify?
Bill Brewer, 105 E. Carlton Ave., was sworn by the attorney.
Brewer: As many of you know our property consists of a mortuary
across the street. We've been at that location since 1957 and I
go have an on going interest in what occurs with the school
property over there. In watching and keeping up with the
property I still cannot help but believe that the greatest
potential for that property would be that it remain in one piece.
A nice large piece of property that could truly be usable for
something down the road. (Further explanation - see tape)
Johnson: Anyone else? No response. I will close the Public
Hearing.
(Discussion Held - see tape)
The Motion was made by Hepper to approve the preliminary plat -
motion died for lack of 2nd. To be scheduled far next Planning
and Zoning Meeting.
ITEM #6: PUBLIC HEARING: ANNEXATION AND ZONING REQUEST BY
HIMERICH & DORADO DEVELOPMENT:
Johnson: I will open the Public Hearing. Is there someone
representing the applicant?
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Jeff Huber, 1109 Leadville Rve., Boise, representing Dorado
Development, was sworn by the attorney.
Huber: We have an application before you tonight to annex and
rezone some property on Meridian Road. We're not asking for
specific approval tonight. There was some confusion in the staff
report as to the site plan fitting the property. It's a
conceptual plan that we added to our application to show the City
what we had in mind for that particular piece of property.
Another item in Mr. Smith's comments in your staff report
referred to the annexation of the house parcel on the property.
This is an oversight on our part and we'd be more than happy to
add that to the annexation prior to the City Council Hearing. We
envisions a lot of growth in Meridian occurring over the next few
years and we envision a need for multi-family housing. We'd like
to build a project here that Meridian would be proud of.
(Presented pictures to Commission Members) We're requesting that
we receive a zoning designation of R-40 with a restrictive
covenant far 25 units per acre instead of 40 per acre. In order
far use to build a quality project like this with all these
amenities, we plan to have a basketball court, a volleyball
court, a swimming pool, and playgrounds for children (Explained
further - see tape) -In order for us to build a quality project
like this we need a higher density than the R-15 would allow and
we don't need the density that an R-40 would allow. So we are
requesting that the developer enter into a development agreement
with the City that we would be restricted to a maximum of 25
units per acre.
Johnson: On this conceptual, it looks almost identical to the N.
Five Mile.
Huber: It is. It's the very same plan that we are using over
there. We are working with the Ada County Highway District
regarding the Collector Street now and the adjoining property
owners. Ultimately I think the decision will be up to the Rda
County Commission's. If we cannot locate a Collector there we
would access this project off of Meridian Road. Rre there any
questions?
Hepper: Is this the concept of what you have in mind out there
or is this actually what you plan on doing?
Huber: This is actually what we would plan on doing but at this
present time we're not asking for conditional use approval. We
are sharing with you a concept of what we want to build there.
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Hepper: How many units would be involved?
Huber: At 25 per acre, we would be in the neighborhood of 175
units.
Hepper: Would you build to that density to the 25 per acre?
Huber: Once the Collector issue is settled we would have to lay
it out and I don't think that we quite get to that density.
Hepper: Would you do this in phases or all at one time?
Huber: I think I'd have to defer that question to Dorado
Development for that. I think we might phase it depending on the
demand, in two phases maximum.
Hepper: Do you have an idea on the time frame of those phases?
Huber: Mr. Angel from Dorado Development will address those
issues.
Johnson: Any other questions for Mr. Huber? To clarify your
earlier comment then, your agreeable to some sort of restriction
imposed by the City to the 25 density or less per acre.
Huber: Yes.
Johnson: Anyone else from the public?
Robert R. Angel, 35 Horizon Drive, Boise, was sworn by the
attorney.
Rngel: There were a couple of questions with regard to the
phasing or the density that maybe I could answer. Our company
came to Meridian a little bit over a year and a half ago and
constructed what we call the Cherry Lane Apartments. We felt
that the one thing that maybe would be lacking would be a top
flight apartment project with amenities. We are also aware of
the fact that it is a small market, the multi family market is
very strong as everybody knows all over the Treasure Valley. For
a project in this size we had contemplated doing it in two
phases. We would go ahead and put in all our improvements. The
first phase not less than 75 to B0 units. The second phase would
be the balance of the property. In terms of timeliness, I would
say not later than spring of 1994 to begin construction. Rny
questions?
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Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify?
Raleigh Hawe, 530 Blue Heron Lane, was sworn by the attorney.
Hawe: I own the property to the east of this development and I
have no adverse comments about the designs that are being
proposed. However I am interested in the proposed Collector that
is an east west Collector on the south side of this particular
property. Rs I have testified in the meetings prior to this on
the properties to the south of there conceptual project here I
find it a necessity to have a Collector through that area to
serve the properties to the east and to connect to the streets
adjoining my easterly boundaries of my property. With the numbers
of people that are in this particular area and are proposed to be
in this area, a Collector for the services that are required for
this particular project and the ones adjacent to it including
these properties to the east for fire services, emergency
services and traffic movement, the Collector area should 6e a
required situation in that particular area. That Collector will
serve the Willowbrook Street and I believe it's now called Blue
Heron Street on the east side of the properties that I have.
This service of course will involve not only the general services
of emergency, the fire, police, etc. but it will serve the
traffic movement to Meridian Road. Rre there any questions?
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify?
Larry Sale, 318 E. 37th Street, Boise, was sworn by the attorney.
Sale: I'm the development services supervisor for the Ada County
Highway District. In our review of this application and the
review of the previous application by Bridgewood Subdivision,
which is just immediately east of this parcel,the Highway
District imposed a condition for the preparation of the traffic
study between these two properties and the dedication of a
Collector standard street from Meridian Road to the East boundary
of these properties. On behalf of the Commission, I urge your
inclusions of our recommendations in your Findings and pass those
on to the City Council for their consideration.
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? No response. I
will close the Public Hearing.
The Motion was made by Johnson and seconded by Alidjani to have
the attorney prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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ITEM #7: PUBLIC HEARING: RNNEXATION AND R-8 ZONING REQUEST
CONIFER SUBDIVISION WITH PRELIMINARY PLAT AND VRRIANCE OF
CULDESAC LENGTH TO 790 FEET:
Johnson: I will now open the public hearing. Rnyone to testify?
Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering, 1111 S. Orchard, Boise, was
sworn by the attorney.
Bowcutt: I'm representing the applicant in this matter. As you
read in your packet we are requesting an annexation, a rezone to
R-8, we have a preliminary plat and a variance of the 450'
maximum culdesac length. The subject pareel is located on the
south side of Pine Rve., approximately 700 feet west of Linder
Road. We are proposing 23 single family residential lots on a
4.72 acre parcel. The surrounding land uses around the subject
property include to the north we have Meridian High School, to
the south we have the Union Pacific Railroad right of way, to the
east we have like a mini storage type facility and I believe
there is a single family dwelling to the east of Pine also.
Explained current zones of surrounding properties. Central
services are available. We believe that the R-8 zoning
designation that we are requesting is consistent and compatible
with the adjacent zones. Our density is 4.87 dwelling units per
acre so we are not maximizes that R-8 zone. One reason that we
needed to go with the R-8 was the fact that this property has a
very narrow width. It's about 222.25 feet in width and we also
are proposing manufactured homes on the property. Now the City
of Meridian does have a new residential provision within their
code that has been adopted a few months ago which has provisions
for manufactured homes to be treated similar to your single
family dwellings. The proposed development will meet or exceed
the new requirements under Meridian Zoning Ordinance for
manufactured homes. All homes will have an attached two car
garage and the garage will be built on site. (Explained further
on descriptions of materials to be used - see tape) (also
presented sketch for Commission to view) Minimum square footage
in this development to be 1200 square feet with a maximum of
around 1600. The estimated selling price for a lot with this
home would be around 580,000.00. The developer intends to
provide a landscaping easement along the two lots which abut Pine
Street and it will have a landscaping sign with Conifer
Subdivision on it. We will be providing a 6' cedar fence along
that south boundary where we abut the Union Pacific Railroad.
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All streets will be built to public road standards and will be
dedicated to Rda County Highway District. We'll be providing 36'
of pavement and 5' sidewalks on both sides. The minimum square
footage on the lots in this development are 6,544.3 square feet.
The average lot size is around 6,776 square feet. We have
requested a variance under this application for section 9605B.6
of the Meridian Code which states that the maximum culdesac
length shall be 450'. Basically our culdesac is around 790', we
were concerned when we started design of this because the
property did not have a lot of width with the 222.52 feet of
width, we are restricted. We have met with the Fire Chief and
discussed this culdesac length with him. One option that we
discussed with the Fire Chief was a stub out to the adjacent
storage facility. They currently have a chain link fence that
runs the length of that property, the applicants have discussed
the possibility of putting an emergency fire gate in there and
they seemed receptive. (Explained Further - see tape) - We feel
that under the requirements of a variance, under State Code,
there has to be some type of site characteristic which prohibits
compliance with a specific design standard. We feel that the
site constraint because of our width obviously limits us in our
design. We don't have any alternative here. We feel what we are
proposing is compatible with the adjacent single family
dwellings. Do you have any questions?
Johnson: Did I hear you say that you were planning on some
manufactured housing or all?
Bowcutt: The proposal was all manufactured housing on all 23
lots.
Rlidjani: Where would the proposed gate be between your property
and Meridian Storage?
Bowcutt: Explained on drawing where to be located.
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify?
Greg Hono, 1903 W. Snyder Rd., was sworn by the attorney.
Hono: I understood her to say there was going to be a buffer
between the railroad tracks and our subdivision and I was
wondering what type of fencing was going to be put up or a wall?
Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else to testify?
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Gary Kuhn, 712 N. Rotan Avenue, was sworn by the attorney.
Kuhn: Our property is directly adjacent to the west of this
proposed subdivision. Voiced concerns about property values.
Are these homes going to be all the same designs? If there's
going to be some type of landscaping covenants with the homes
there. Concerns about homes being to close to property lines.
Would like them to consider putting a wall and not a fence.
Proposed a park area be dedicated in the name of Jack Niemann.
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify?
John Douda, 788 N. Rotan, was sworn by the attorney.
Douda: My property also sits abutted up against the property
proposed to putting these homes. Like Gary just said, we're
going to take an extreme hit as far as if they don't put in a
wall. Explained concerns about the proposed development being so
close to property lines. Also concerns about property value.
Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else from the public? No response.
So Becky would you like to comment.
Becky Bowcutt: We had addressed protective covenants in our
discussions with the client. We will be providing protective
covenants to the City of Meridian for their review. We'll have
covenants just like they have in a normal subdivision which
addresses a certain type of landscaping, specific uses, no junk
cars, etc.. It was brought up buffering about that west side of
Merrywood Subdivision. I failed to mention that the developer
would be running that 6'cedar fence wrapping it around here
(explained on map). We do want to provide some type of a buffer
that will satisfy both parties. Concerning set backs, we are not
asking for any variances on the set backs, we'll be meeting the
standard set backs for the R-B zone which is 20' on the front, 5'
feet on the interior side yard, 15' on the rear and I believe 20'
feet on the street side. We have a 48-51 foot building envelope
on those lots to position these homes in. They will set with the
front facing the street, they won't be turned side ways in any
manner. We have been discussing possible landscaping of the lots
being done when the unit goes in immediately or leaving it up to
the lot buyer and having the protective govern what that
landscaping is. If the City has some suggestions I'm sure the
developer will be open minded.
Johnson: Since it is R-8 zoning are you contemplated any
duplexes or rental units?
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Bowcutt: No.
Johnson: Anyone else from the public?
Nancy Pine, 690 N. Rot an, was sworn by the attorney.
Pine: This is going to bring additional traffic to this area and
that is a great concern. I agree that we do need a wall in the
back yard between us.
Shearer: Does your property abut this property?
Pine: Yes.
Shearer: How deep is your lot?
Kuhn: 130.
Pine: I'm right next door to Gary.
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify? I will close the
Public Hearing.
The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Hepper to have the
attorney prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani to
approve the preliminary plat for Conifer Subdivision.
Motion Carried: R11 Yea:
Johnson: For those that don't know what we do here I'll explain.
Our function is to gather testimony and pass it on to the City
Council. This body doesn't maNe decisions on the application,
what we do is make recommendations to the City. We kind of act
as a sounding board far them. Everything presented tonight will
go on to the City Council in approximately a month.
ITEM #8: PUBLIC HERRING: REQUEST FOR RNNEXRTION AND ZONING WITH
PRELIMINARY PLRT FOR WINGATE SUBDIVISION:
Johnson: I will open the public hearing. Is there a
representative for the applicant that would like to address the
Commission?
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Gary Lee, .IUB Engineers, 250 So. Beechwood, Boise, was sworn by
the attorney.
Lee: This application tonight is for annexation and preliminary
plat far Wingate Park Subdivision. The property is located just
south of Kearney Place Subdivision and directly east of Mirage
Meadows. It lays north of a proposed Cheri Meadows that is under
consideration by the City at this point. The property consists
of about i9 acres of irrigated properties. Right now there's a
single family home on the property and also a mobile home rail
unit. There's access provided to the site by N. Wingate Place
off of Kearney Place Subdivision at the northeast corner. As
shown on the preliminary plat there is two planned future access
points. One that will connect to the proposed Cheri Meadows at
the southeast corner to a future Collector Street that will
service this portion of this section. The second access is a
connection to a street to the west, Oakcrest, going into Mirage
Meadows. That particular access point would be made at same
future point when a parcel is developed. It's excluded from
this application. There's about an acre in the southwest corner
of the site that is under a separate ownership. The rezone
request along with the annexation is for R-8. The project will
consist of 74 single family units which results in a density of
just under 4 units per acre. The minimum widths of course in the
zone is 65' with 6500 square foot lot areas. The average widths
on these lots of about 70 feet and they vary anywhere from 66 to
74 feet in width so they are considerably larger than the
minimums. Lot depths vary anywhere from 100 to 112 feet with an
average of about 105. The R-8 zone in our estimation is
desirable in this area. It's surrounded by R-8 at this time.
The improvements for the site - sanitary sewer and domestic water
is available at several locations. The streets will be public
streets constructed to ACRD Standards and also include 5'
sidewalks as required by City of Meridian. All storm water
systems would be built to retain storm water on site. There's an
existing irrigation ditch along the southerly portion of the
property that will be tiled in accordance with the current
subdivision codes. Have seen comments from City Engineer and
have had a chance to discuss these with him. On the annexation
there is a 20 foot wide strip that separates Mirage Meadows and
the Monroe-Barker property. This particular strip of ground at
this time is a gray area in title. That 20' strip is also Dixie
Lane, a private road. It's Gary's understanding and my feeling
too that this probably should be included in the annexation. The
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owner's representative is working with the title company to see
if we can get clear title on that to make that annexation
feasible. The second item we discussed was the access points.
ACHD has their standard policy of 100 units for any development
onto local streets. Kearney Place right now, the total design
was for 79 units and that leaves room for an additional 21.
However there's one phase in there where the Woods live now that
won't be developed for quite some time and I believe that
consisted of about 6 lots so there's roam for some growth on that
100 unit limit that ACHD has for one access. That one access
will be N. Wingate Place. The sewer facilities was a question as
well. There is sewer on Wingate, we did make some preliminary
measurements to make sure there was going to be adequate cover
and we could supply sewer service for that first phase onto
Wingate Place. That phase would really 6e limited by the sewer
depth. I believe the lot count there was right around fifteen
lots that would be in that first phase on the east end. (Further
explanation - see tape) - Rny questions?
Hepper: Does the proposed Collector Street, does that lot going
to the south does that line up with the one in Cheri Meadows?
Lee: The way it was presented on the preliminary plat, it's in
the vicinity and we're still trying to decide how that will come
together. I think we will modify it just a little bit to more
conform with Cheri Meadows requirements or at least show on their
preliminary plat.
Hepper: Square footage?
Lee: Square footage would be 1300 square feet minimum, similar
to what we did in Kearney Place Subdivision.
Johnson: Did you get the copy of the letter from ACRD dated
Rpril 7, 1993.
Lee: I don't believe so.
Johnson: We'll get you a copy if you didn't get one.
Dan Wood, 2119 E. Chateau, was sworn by the attorney.
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Wood: Tim to answer your question yes I do plan on doing 1300
square foot minimum single level with the plans of doing the same
way in Kearney Place, 1600 square foot for two stories. 7,000
square foot lots, price range of the homes is from 585,000 up to
about 4120,000.00. Explained location of ditch and stated it
will be piped or tiled. The other one on the other side this has
already been piped. That's all I've got unless you have
questions.
Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else to testify?
Natalie Boyer, 2200 N. Laughridge, was sworn by the attorney.
Boyer: My question is regarding
what the proposal was. I need it
is right at the end of Dixie Lane
only other comment that I would
seems to be growing so fast an
keeping up with that growth.
Dixie
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so it
like
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Lane. I don't understand
fied for me. Our property
is of concern to us. The
to make is that Meridian
don't see the facilities
Johnson: What facilities do you have in mind?
Boyer: Grocery stores, etc..
Johnson: These are things we don't have control over.
Boyer: We have had some very serious water problems, even to
take a shower.
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else to testify?
Richard Boyer, 2200 N. Laughridge, was sworn by the attorney.
Boyer: My biggest concern is not only because of the water
pressure that we have encountered in this town being a lack
thereof. My concern is with Dan's subdivision right now, the
only way you can get in and out of it is Chateau Drive. When you
add this new subdivision in the only way in and out that I can
see right at the moment is Chateau Drive. That puts a great
impact on that one street. What happens if there's a fire in
there and there's also an accident at the same time? Concerns
about additional impact of traffic.
Johnson: I agree and thank you. Anyone else to testify?
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Larry Sale, from Ada County Highway District: The intersection
improvement for Locust Grove and Fairview is scheduled for this
year. The questions of access which the gentleman raised are
very appropriate. I think maybe in this case, the City of
Meridian has done a great job of controlling your growth. We are
kind of over-using Chateau and some of the local streets in the
area to the west and north. This project and the one immediately
south of it will start to put the rest of the jig saw pieces
together and get some additional access out to Fairview,
primarily a Collector which is badly needed, which will serve the
eastern portion of this project and the project immediately south
of it. When Cheri Meadows came through we didn't require
anything of Dixie Lane. When Dan and Gary came through with this
project, we decided we should do that. So we've asked them and
it appears their going to graciously exceed to our requests and
provide some right of way for Dixie Lane. I've talked to the
developer to the south about the same concerns and he's indicated
that they recognize the need and will cooperate with us to get
some additional right of way on Dixie. The property to the south
of Cheri Meadows appears to be going to develop in some kind of
commercial or industrial style and we will have to rely on you
people to grab that right of way for us when we recommend that we
can get it with the subdivision plats.
Johnson: Thank you.
Dan Wood: (Explained on drawing about Dixie Lane - See Tape>
Gary Lee: I wanted to comment about the water pressure.
Currently the Department of Environment has a requirement of all
City's to provide adequate water pressure obviously for fire
protection and for domestic use and there are certain guidelines
that have to be adhered to. One of those is to develop a study
of the water system or model that they can look at as these new
developments come on line. That's one of the things that your
engineering department does for you on all these proposed
developments is they analyze their overall network system to make
sure that whatever impact the new development does does not put
you in a place where you have a deficient water system.
Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else? No response. I will close the
public hearing.
The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Rlidjani to have
the attorney prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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The Motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani to
approve the preliminary plat for Wingate Subdivision with agency
recommendations being included.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
ITEM #9: VRCATION OF ERSEMENT FOR MICHELS RND MICHELS:
Steve Michels, 1630 E. Paradise Lane, Meridian: I would like to
vacate the easement shown on the papers given to you. Our plans
on that property is to build one or possibly one large building
with the easements located like they are there's a good
possibility that they would be under the building. What we've
done is dedicated an easement across the northerly boundary of
Lot 3 and across the easterly boundary of Lot 3, a ten foot
easement rather than the normal three foot east side boundary
line. This will allow service of all public utilities.
The Motion was
recommend approve
Michels.
Motion Carried:
The Motion was
adjourn.
Motion Carried:
(TAPE DN FILE OF
made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani to
al of the vacation of easement for Michels and
All Yea:
made by Alidjani and seconded by Shearer to
All Yea:
THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVED:
IM TOHN ON CHRIRMAN
ATTEST:
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W F REY, C TY CLERK