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1993 09-14• • ORIGINAL MERIDIAN PLRNNING & ZONING SEPT. 14 1993 The reg+.+lar meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission was called to ar°der^ by Chairman Jim Johnson: Members Fh°esent: Cf+arlie Rountree, Jim Jahnsan, Tim Hepper, Moe Alid,jani: Others Present: Don L. Bryan, Lola Sept, Tammy Tingley, Carmen J. Mayes, Ross Dodge, Warren Watson, Sheri Raker, Jahn Baker, Raleigh Hawe, Lynn Clark, Rod Lawe, Diane Beaulieu, Harry Rea+.rlieu, Bev Donahue, Mike Donah+.re, Ver^n on Craft, Dan Hale, Ronald Thomas, Michael Caves, Cheryl Josephson, F'enr:y Danner, Wayne Forrey, Vern Alleman, Wayne Crookson, Dave Tucker, Robert Morrison, Eldon Kelly, Randy Stevens, Max Boesiger, Betty Bermensolo: MINUTES DF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD AUGUST 10, 1993: The Motion was made by Alid.jani acrd seconded by Rountree to approve the minutes of the R+.rgust 10, 1993 meeting as wr^itten. Motion Carried: R11 Yea: MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD AUGUST 16, 1993: The Motion was made by Rountr^ee and seconded by Hepper to approve the min~_+tes of the August 16, 1993 meeting as written. Motian Carried: All `dea: F'URLIC HEARING ON COMPREHENSIVE F+L RN: Johnson: Rt this time I'll open the Public Hearing. Wayne Forrey, 52 E. Fr^anklin Rd., Meridian, was sworn by the attorney. For^rey: First of all let me say thank you to everyone that's her^e far contributing to Meridian, making this an even better community through this planning process. We've had just tremendous citizens support through the past 90 days. Probably we've had over 40 neighborhood meetings occurring here in the Co~.mcil Chambers, meeting with groups out in the community, at schools, service clubs, this is o+_+r second public hearing, long ho~.+rs with this Commission and City Cauncii member°s, City staff and all of this input boiling dawn into this document. In 1978 the City adapted it's first Comprehensive Plan, same of you've probably seen this there's been a lot of miles put on this old plan here, In fact, it's been fine tuned, tuned up in 84 and twice in 85 and then again in 1990 b+-rt it's time for an overhaul now. TFsis represents a major overha+_cl. This was the draft of PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1994 PAGE 2 our fir^st copy, the yellow one. After that first weeting on Rugtirst 10th the Cowwission felt that there was soave very good citizen input and I agree so we put out a second draft and that's this copy. Citizen input is always good and this plan is getting better and I hope tonight we even ^ake it a better^ docuwent yet. Ultiwately this Cosprehensive Plan will go to the City Council, possibly it could go in avid-October fur a thir^d public hearing and possible adoption in perhaps October° or Novewber. Sa tonight's weeting is really iwportant that this Cowwission get citizen input because they are in a position where they have to ^ake a recowwendation to the City Council. Any new developwent requests that the City is receiving right now they are proceeding forward, the woratariuw has been lifted trot we're putting a condition on all new developwent requests that prior to appr^oval anything that's moving forward now through the process will have to be in cowpliance with the adopted Cowprehensive Plan, whatever fore it takes. So that way wean during October or Novewber that soave projects get tabled or^ delayed or conditions put on them that they would require cowpliance with the Cowprehensive Plan. One thing that is iwportant to recognize in Planning, that a Cowprehensive Flan is really a policy docuwent. It's the foundation that gives you a dir^ection to go. The actual elewents in City Gover^nwent that dictate the type of developwent, the set backs, the landscaping, all of those physical things, the widths of sidewalks, widths of streets is in zoning and developwent ordinances or^ subdivision ordinances as soave City's call thew. This Cow pr^ehensive Frlan indicates that we need to go a step beyond just a Cowprehensive Plan but actually update our zoning and subdivision ordinances for quality developwent. That again is based on .just trewendous citizen input saying let's go beyond a Cow pr°ehensive Flan or policy docuwent let's get down to soave specifics and that's the appropriate place to do that. In the months ahead we want you back at public hearings to revisit this issue in terws of zoning ordinance revisions, changes to the developwent ordinance and other things that relate to good developwent practices. It's iwportant that we all think about quality of life. That's a phrase that's used a lot, sowetiwes we don't talk abo~.rt it enough. It's used li6er^ally in this Cowprehensive Plan, ever^yane that's cowwented in this process has said Mer^idian is a good place to live and we don't want it to go down hill. 6ne of the ^ajor^ goals of this pr^ocess was looking at ways to enhance our quality of life. That's why we talk about additional school sites, park sites, recreation facilities, enhancewents to the police and fire services, to wake Meridian u MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING SEPT. l4, 1994 PAGE 3 even a better community. Changes to our zoning and development ordinances as well. Quality of life is difficult to define Cut I hope tonight you'll get a sense of the issues her^e as they relate to your own personal life and asLe yourself can we live with it. I hope we're on the right tr^ack. I might say this, that this Commission and your City Council is committed to fine tuning. This Commission will continually ask you to comment once the Comprehensive Plan is adopted to see if there's something we need to change or do Letter. I'm going to take just a few minutes now and Shaw you some slides and walk through some of the ma.jor^ issues that err^e addr^essed in the Comprehensive Plan ,just familiar^ize a little bit and then we'll tur^n it over to a question and answer. The Comprehensive Plan is really a collection of a lot of studies, looking at the old Comprehensive Plan, the Rda County Comprehensive Plan and exhaustive water and sewer master plan that was just completed here in the City of Meridian, the pathway plan prepared by Rda F~lanning Rssociation, traffic analysis, all of these documents have gone into making this a updated plan. This was a family, I was .just out taking pictures one day and her^e was a family at the edge of their gar^den and I asked them what was important to them and living in Meridian, and the answer was open space. They liked having a large garden and this Comprehensive Plan r^eflects those types of interest. It also r^eflects the interests of the development community where there is an economic factor in this community. We've tried to balance of those inter^ests. TI-ie yellow that you see, it's a little outdated but this is one of the current promotional maps that a map company in Boise produces for Meridian. The yellow is the City limits, we're quite a bit larger than that now but that dar^k outer boundar^y that you see is our current area of impact and we're starting to push outside of that err^ea of impact. Citizens indicated that we needed to enlarge that to have Letter contr^ol of quality development on the fringes of the City and well into the future. There are definitely some competing interest out there between the rural lifestyle and the urban lifestyle erred we saw what happened to a farmer in Caldwell here a couple weeks ago. This is an agricultural community Cut we're growing and the Comprehensive Frlan does have policies in it that directly affect this type. of issue and we feel that we're going to r^ecognize, even though it's a City plan, we are r^ecagnizing the rural interests that are out there. We look at all kind of projections in the plan, population, economic, Luilding permits, we looking at about 40,000 population here in the next 20 years in this community and i • MERIDIAN PLANNING & Z~NLNG SERT. 14, 1993 PAGE 4 so the plan reflects development issues that pertain to that type of gr^owth. Sewer is a major^ interest in this community because development goes where the easiest sewer is located. Those shaded areas are various sewage drainage areas that have been detailed and analyzed in a computer^ program, .7L1P Engineers prepared that. CH2M Hill has done the same thing with our water system. In the sewer system now those green lines and some of the orange lines that you see, this is what our sewer system will look like 20 years fro^ now. This tells us that we've got some capacity problems in the old part of town. It doesn't mean we're over capacity but 20 years fro^ now we're starting to hit some problems in the downtown which means that Meridian right now has enough capacity in our collection system to accawmodate that 20 year growth projection. Put sewer pipes last much longer than 2Q1 year^s sa when you go out 45 years fro^ now you see that we have many more red and orange lines and so we're going to develop some sewer problems about 45 years from now. That's good infrastructure planning for this community because what we put in the ground today or tomorrow as far as sewer pipe and water pipe is concerned will last 50 years so we've got to look 50 years into the futur^e when it cores to those facilities. All of this is on a computerized program and when a development comes in we can plug in numbers now and run some calculations and look at the effect that that project has on our collection and waste treatment system. Our wastewater planning is so sophisticated now we can tell you the depth, the number^ of manholes, the invert elevations, the lengths of pipes, all of that information through a very large area around the community. The purple that you see is the current area of impact that has been negotiated with Ada County. The orange that you see is our proposal to expand the area of impact and be able to have some say in the type of development that occurs outside of that purple area. As I mentioned the City limits now are star^ting to punch into that orange area already so it's important that we expand our area of impact. The green that you see is areas that we cannot sewer so we're proposing that they remain in agricultural production or rural residential. This is an ar^ea along Fairview that is a mixed area right now. The Comprehensive Rlan has substantial policies regarding mixed use development, planned development that would make this area attractive and redevelop those rural parcels into some nice attractive development. This is near Locust Grove and Fairview, again a mixed area and the Comprehensive Plan addresses that recognizing that a lot of things could work in that area, residential, commercial, MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING SEPT. 14, 1493 PAGE 5 industr^ial, office, as long as it's quality develapwent well planned and coordinated. This is the back of lots along Franklin Road, I'm on Eagle Road looking west, this is an entr^ance into the City. This is another mixed use, planned use developsent area. We recogni.e that ther^e's hooves then^e and potential businesses in the lower areas but as long as there's good planning we think they can work successfully together and the Cowprehensive Plan has policies to make sure that that happens. This is Over^land Road looking, well yoti see the water^ tower in the background, this is an area that's iwportant to Meridian because it's not only entrance to the cowwunity but it borders the interstate and ever^yone traveling along the inter^stat e, east and west their^ visual iwpr^ession of develapwent along the interstate will be the visual iwpression they have of the City of Meridian, it's an entrance. The Cawprehensive Flan has policies that affect the way developsent looks along the interstate and along Overland Raad. This is the ar^ea on the east side of town, this is designated light industr^i al, high technology developwent planned to industrial uses. This are is at Ten Mile looking west hack towards Nawpa. If you look close, way in the distance you'll see the two water tower^s that serve the City of Nawpa. This is designating general industrial and I might say in the Cow pr^ehensive Plan we wet with the ftitll City Council of the City of Nawpa and r^eviewed the entire plan because Nawpa is planning all the way to the county line and Met^idian is planning west to the county line so there's been good caor^dination between Nampa and Meridian and also with Roise City of the east. We've incar°por^ated the Ada Planning Rssociation traffic analysis into the Cowpr^ehensive Plan to get the vast current update inforwation available looking at developwent in r^oadways now and into the future. You'll notice soave inter^change proposals. This is the curt^ent Eagle Road inter^change, we're pr^oposing an overpass at Locust Grove Road, this is the current Meridian interchange and we're pr^oposing enhancewents to that interchange, constructing a new overpass at Linder Road and constructing a new overpass at Ten Mile, widening and iwpr^oving the current over^pass at Alackcat and this would be a future interchange at McDerwott Road which would essentially be the east Nawpa interchange. So we've done soave ver^y tang range things in ter^ms of transportation. Her^e we are at I think Ten Mile Road looking back to the east. This is an area that in the future will develop but again it's going to he under a or°dinance review. Alwost a design review type approach wher^e we look very closely at the way projects are developed along that corridor^ along the interstate. The MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 6 Compr^ehensive Plan recognizes that the war^ket drives developsent as well as sewer so you see here a fellow has a sign and he's advertised that this site could work for commercial or technological industrial development, our Comprehensive Plan supports that. Let the market work and let the highest and best use work on these par^cels as Lang as it's well planned and blended into surrounding properties so we don't build conflicts. Our waste tr^eatment plant has same special consider^atian in the Compr^ehensive Plan. We da have capacity for growth but it's being used up. One thing we've got to do is expand the waste treatment plant, the City is budgeting funds to do that but at the same time development is getting very close to the waste treatment plant. I'm standing in the treatment plant looking back to the southeast near the intersection of Ten Mile and Ustick. Homes are getting very close so we have designated a agr^icultural zone around the waste tr^eatment area for future expansion, much like an airport with a clear zone. R school is a ^a.joe^ issue in the Compr°ehensive Flan. It's pr^oba6ly no secret that the Meridian School District is struggling with some over capacity in the schools. We feel that o~.rr r^ole here is to help the district acquire sites. So when a developer comes to the City requesting approval we will start the negotiating process of acquiring a school site in an ar^ea when^e a school site is needed. Here those 6r^own sites are anticipated Elementary, Junior^ High and Senior^ High school sites. We have also anticipated future par^ks to 6e .jointly developed with school facility. The School District helped identify those locations so now we have some tools to negotiate with. The Rda Planning Rssaciation pathway plan, a tremendous document, very forward thinking and looks at quality of life has been incorporated into the Comprehensive Plan and we're going Lo start in the next fiscal year^ to develop a piece of the pathway that you see here along Five Mile Creek near^ Tulley Park. We're star^ting to negotiate with developer^s on other pathways so this Compr^ehensive Flan, even though it's not yet adopted, we're using it as a tool to start the negotiation process and here's a project where a developer has agreed to construct a bike path as part of that pathway plan. We've anticipated recreation needs, this is a sketch of our potential regional park. I don't know if it will be built in that configuration or^ at the location we would like to have it but at least we know that we're planning for° a regional park in a cer^tain area of the community so some day we will have that to ^eet the needs. This is a photo of the current Tulley Park, an eighteen acre site. The City has just 6lydgeted 5750,000. and MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 7 next spr^ing we'll star^t land leveling and planting gr^ass and looking at trees and future ball parks. The Comprehensive Plan also includes a capital improvement plan, that's where yo~.i anticipate future public expenditures, the aeount of expenditure and time line. The two that you see ther^e that ar°e highlighted ar^e police and fire and in the 1993-94 column yo~.r see anticipated then^e 160,000. to hit^e additional police and fire so it's a total of 5120,000. that was accomplished by the way in the budget that was just adopted, the City has committed to hire two additional police and two additional fire fighters and the t^eason that happened is because during the meetings that we've had citizens said, we want more pnlice. The police department is excellent but they said we feel with gr°owth then^e needs to be more officer^s to keep quality of life at the level we have now. The same with fir^e, so again here* s how the Compr^ehensive Plan wor^ks in terms of citizen inp~.rt going into an action with the City actually appr^opr-iating money to accomplish that very thing. This is the old Comprehensive Plan gener^alized land use map. This is the map we looked at ors August 10th. Rt that hearing citizens suggested some changes, more mixed use development around Eagle Road inter^change, nor^th of Meridian Road behind Alber^t sons, north of Fair^view in the Locust Grove area, citizens also said we want to see when^e proposed sewer lines ar^e going to be located. We've made those changes and this is a photo of that. The large map is right here and we need to discuss the things that are on that tonight, Gut naw we can point out the drainage areas, future trunks and we've made those improvements to the land use pattern. I feel we'r^e making some good pr^ogr^ess and I really appreciate ever^y ones input. Johnson: Thank you. We'd appreciate it if you'd limit your r^emar-ks to the^ee minutes. Rlso be cognisant if you will of being repetitive. Anyone fro^ the public to testify? Cheryl Josephson, 4302 N. Eagle Rd., was sworn by the attorney. Josephson: I' m her^e because of that ar^ea right then^e. The impact area adjustment shift to Poise City. I live here, and the reason I'm here tonight is because this area in the beginning I guess ther^e wer^e people fr^o^ this area asking to go to Poise but at that time I was in favor of staying with Met^idian until I Lear^ned that Met^idian cannot service sewer to that ar^ea by gravity flow. Pecattse of that fact it would put a bar^d ship I feel on me and several people in the area if that were left out. Put because of the cost and the inability to service it I'm in MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PRGE 8 favor of the shift to Poise mainly because of that reason because in the long term it would make the property basically a lot less valuable. I'm also speaking for^ a lady that lives across the r^oad at 4280 N. Eagle Rd., Leah Melvin. She is also in favor^ of this happening because of the water pr^oblem and the fact that you can't service it. It's my understanding that there are some areas in Poise that can't be see^vices 6y the^ in their impact area and to me it would make sense that maybe you could negotiate a fair trade and go ahead and let it go. I think Mr. Forrey has done a good ,job and it would be in my interest anyway to say yes let it go, even though Meridian is doing some fine things. Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else? Lola Sept, 4~JJ N. Eagle Rd., was sworn by the attor^ney. Sept: I'm also concerned about the impact ar^ea adjustment shift to Aoise and like my neighbor Cheryl I to was or^iginally in favor of staying with Meridian but ~_rnder^standing that it's not possible to have sewer supplied to our area I also have changed my mind and feel that I would support the shift to Aoise City. The concern that I have is the c~_rrrent boundary that's indicated on here that would split my property in half. Showed Commission on sap where her^ property is located. For^rey: All of the dark lines that you see ar^e proposed sewer^ trunk lines. The area that these two ladies are referring to is this corner right here. After JUR Engineers did the sewer master plan we realized that the sewer lines were getting real shallow in this area. We co~_rld provide sewer service to the area but it starts to compromise o~.n^ standards in terms of inches of soil aver^ the tap of the pipe. They get r^eal shallow and so fr^om a engineering stand point it's an area we sho~.rldn't sewer and so we contacted Roise City and they do have the depth of pipes forecast in that area to sewer^ that ar^ea so we thought it was prudent that we nat sewer° that area and allow Roise City to sewer that area. So the proposal is to make an impact area adjustment shift to Aoise City. Now on this map, we get a little more specific, in the first public hearing on Rugust 10th our proposal was to draw the impact ar^ea boundary on that dotted line that you see because that's pr^etty much when^e the engineer^s fo~_rnd where the change in drainage would be. In other words this property up here would drain back to Aoise City and this property her°e would came back down to the south slough trunk in Meridian. Put the testimony a MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 9 month ago was that we shouldn't ,just fallow thls type of boundary we should follow property lines and sa the diamond patter^n that you see her°e is our proposed adjustment. So we're going I think an the back of this ladies proper^ty and not through the middle. .lohnsan: Thank yoti. Anyone else? Diane Beaulieu, 1895 Star Lane, was sworn 6y the attorney. Peaulieu: I have a number of issues I'd like to address and a number of people who could not be her^e tonight have asked me to do that. The first one is I'd like to know where the access to the minutes, copies of the Comprehensive Flan can be obtained other than here at the City offices. Is there another^ place? Johnson: The minutes I don't believe so. I believe they ar^e only available her^e. The plan itself is available elsewher^e but the minutes are only available at City Hall. Peaulieu: I think it would be nice if it was at the libr^ar^y here in town and possibly also the Rda County Libr^ary because this librar^y has such limited hours so that mor^e people could see what's happening in the community and become involved. The second issue is dealing with 4.3 and 4.4 in the plan and that's dealing with designating Locust Grove as a bicycle route. It's listed from Locust Grove from Ustick to Chinden as a bicycle route. I would like to propose that it would be upgraded to either a path or a lane and that's Gecause we could tie up to McMillan Road which has three schools. Also the water is going to be up on Eagle Road, it could tie up to the Y and probably also the Poise F'ar^k then^e. Right now this past week there was an article in the Boise paper about problems with traffic and I would like to say let's be pr^oactive and deal with bicycle r^o tit es before the fact. The third issue is dealing with rural. Rural in a number of areas was defined as five to ten acres and above. I would like to propose that you lank at the area because then^e are some areas that have one to two acres that are very rural and then you could go to another area and the one to two areas is not r^ural. Our area that I'm from is an area that is very rural. People have horses, they have cows, they have turkeys, sa look at the individual area, don't .just define it as being above five to ten acres. MERIDIRN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PRGE 10 Finally I don't see that existing neighborhoods are really addressed in the Comprehensive Plan. I live in an existing neighborhood that's been they^e twenty+ year^s and I would like to see some infor^mation as to what is going to happen to that area when it's annexed. Rre there going to be grandfather rights for She animals that people have? What is going to happen dealing with tieing up with the City sewer and water? How m~_rch is that going to cost? We have people who are retired in the neighborhood, we have people who are just starting, sa maybe a five to two tho~.rsand pr^ice tag is really going to hurt them. I would like to see Some of those isstires addressed including water and irrigation rights. I have one acre and I'd Like to landscape it, I have a lot of trees and would like to asscn^ed that when we become part of the City and it's develaped ar^ound us that I still can obtain my irrigation rights and my well won't be dry. Then finally I had one City Council menber^ tell me that taxes, when we became annexed would be half of what they wo~_rld be in the County. Can somebody clarify that? What is the relationship with being par^t of the City as to part of the Co~.rnty? Johnson: Wayne do yo~.r have an historical data on that? For°rey: No. Johnson: I don't thinH we know do we what it would be. I don't know the source far that. Forney: 1 don't r^ight now but 1 ca~_ild get yotr something. Peaulieu: I'd appreciate that, thank you. Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else? Ross Dodge, Ada Planning Association, 473 W. Idaho, Poise, was sworn by the attorney. Dodge: I'm her^e pr^esenting the Pathway Flan and I want to thank you fur the opportunity to conment. I'm here to compliment you and support your Comprehensive Flan as it is consistent with the Ridge to River^s Pathway Plan. The Pathway Plan's overall goal or' intent is to improve non-motorized access through neighborhoods, through City's and thr^otrgh the Cotirnty as a whole. The plan has received a high level of p~.rblic input and support and it is currently an tour to all the local implementing agencies for their formal adoption. Meridian's component of that pathway plan MERIDIRN PLRNNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 11 is a critical part for the plan as a whole. I want to thank the City Council, Planning and Zoning, Meridian Staff far incorporating their por^tion of the pathway plan into their Comprehensive Flan and on behalf of the AF'A Roard I encourage this Commission to recommend adoption of this Comprehensive Plan. 1 believe that including pathways into the Comprehensive Flan in the planning process will do a lot to isprove mobility for non- ^otor^ist and do a lot to enFiance this community. Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else? John Raker, 2165 N. Glennfield Way, was sworn by the attorney. Raker: I think yo~.i've done a very good job on a much needed Comer^ehensive Plan Update. I feel then^e's one part of the plar~ that does not seem to be given very little impor^tance to and that is the improvement of the Mer^idian Fire Department. I see a lot of talk and a ]at of money spent on parks, and police, there's ratios in there for 1,000 citizens for- policemen, sa many acres for parks, no ratios far the fire department. There is one mention in your capital constr'_rction of some expansion of fire houses. Rs an example there's 5200,000. to upgrade the Meridian Fir^e Station in the 93-94 year. We^re in the 93-94 year and they^e's nothing been budgeted fur that so I'd like to know what affect does this plan, how binding is it upon the City Council? I think the citizens sho~.rld be aware that we are very lacking in o~.rr fire protection here. Johnson: Thank you. We are cognizant of that. Rnyone else? Very Alleman, 2101 E. Ustick, Meridian, was sworn by the attorney. Rlleman: As I stated 6efor^e 1 am deeply concerned about farming as s~_rbdivisions move in. People move next to a farm and their delighted with the open spaces and rural atmosphere until some activity doesn't meet with their approval. Rt this point, some people set about to change the far^ming operation to meet their desire. I might state that my Goys and I have been farming for- 25 years, we have a 6~.rsiness and there is a need and a demand for o~.u^ services. At this point some people have set abo~_rt to change the farming operation to meet their desire. This is wrong when they move they should investigate the area and determine whether they can fit into the area and it's activities. Whiffle I want to MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PRGE 1 be a good neighbor there are certain far^msng operations that some people would consider inappropriate to their liking. There are those who say the farmer^ can sell out and move while some might be willing to do this it is not an option for^ me and I feel it is wrong for people to even suggest it. How would yo+.+ feel if someone came along and said they didn't like where yot+ were living and yot+ should leave? My feeling is people should accept the ar^ea and activities that exist when^e they move to and not try to change them. If they feel they can not adjt+st they shot+ld move. Idaho Law under Chapter 45 allows the right to farm. The Comps^ehensive Plan should incl+_+de this also as it will eliminate many problems in the f+.+ture. It is best to head off these problems now rather .than to try to resolve them later. Many people I talked to say it is useless to testify befog°e you as you have alr^eady made np your mind and testimony will not change your minds. I thought perhaps you wo+_+ldn't p+.+t m+.+ch importance on .just one per^sons testimony so I have contacted a few people and they have signed stating their support for the right to farm. Submitted signed names and address s+_+pporting right to farm. (On file in City Clerks Office) Letter r^ead at top of petition. "Vern A p eman wants a new policy added to the land use chapter regarding "the right to farm" - a policy that addresses "continuation of farming activities without disruption as a result of adjacent residential development". We, the undersigned s~.tpport this policy. 1 also have another concern and that is the need far fences. between farms and subdivisions. Vou have heard fences make for good neighbors. As I stated previously farming and subdivisions are not compatible and this the need for^ fences. We had problems with the s+_+bdivision next to some land that I farmed and after a fence was installed the problem was practically eliminated. R fence is necessary not only to protect. the farm but also to protect the people in the subdivision. This is partic~.+lar^ true as it pertains to children. The bazar^ds of farming and children and children getting in contact with could be very serious so I think it's only appropriate to inco>^porate this into the plan to protect not only the farm but also to protect the children or whoever is in the s+_rbdivision. I have a copy of the Idaho Chapter which pertains to the right to farm also here is anybody would like to see it, and I have a copy of the Washington State right to farm provisions. Crookston: I think he should submit it for the r^ecor^d. MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1493 PAGE 13 Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else? Warr^en Wats.on, 168A W. Ustick Rd., Meridian, was sworn by the attorney. Watson: I*d like to address this glestion to Mr. Forr^ey if I may. Co!rld you focus on the earner of Linder and Ustick Road with the overhead? Forr^ey: I don't have an over^view of that. We could use the map over° here. Watson: My question was, ire the Statesman and I admit I haven't read the plan but in the Statesman it shows that the corner of Linder and Ustick Road which is now farm land is designated to be commercial. I guess there is two parts to my question. Number one, what is commercial? And number two, haw far from the center of the intersection does the commer^cial zone extend beca!rse I own the whole northwest corner of Linder and Ustick Road? Forrey: Several things in this partic!rlar area, first of all we have a well site symbol meaning that somewher^e in that area in our water master plan we going to need a City production well. So if you wer^e to come in today and talk about developing your property we would ask yo!r about donating a well site to the City. Watson: Yo!r have one I have an artisan I'll give it to you. For^rey: Rt this intersection because of all the residential land use ar°o!md there the Comprehensive Flan recognizes that we don't want to force people to one place to do all their shopping and there needs to be neighborhood commercial services in this area. This doesn't mean a replacement far downtown or Cherry Lane or K- Mart, it just means that there's same neighborhood convenience commercial services in that area and to 6uffer^ that against the single family residential there's a mixed use designation here on the map as well meaning a mixture of uses predominately in that area I imagine some residential that would blend into the commercial that's designated here. This is a policy map, it just means that we anticipate same level of neighborhood commercial service to develop in that area and then the mixed use development around it to buffer it against the single family 'r^e =_idential. Your second question was how deep, how wide, what can I 6e allowed, that get's into the zoning and development ordinance which is the next step in this pr^ocess to define and MERIDIRN PLRNNING & ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 pRGE 14 update those ordinances. So right now I couldn't tell you haw deep, it's merely a symbol indicating a need or a potential in that area far that type of use. Watson: Well I suppose at my age, 71 years old I wouldn't have to worry about it anyway but it would be my nice to know that my land wasn't chopped right half iri two. For^rey: Same folks will live and die by a map like this, they'll say well you showed a map a line r^ight then^e and it's supposed to be commercial and I would just like to print far^ the record that there's a ward up here called "generalized" and that's what it is. It is a generalized pattern and fr^om that pattern we*ve looked at traffic impacts, recreation, schools, population, public facilities, police and fire sa I'm not guaranteeing yat, or your wife that your going to have a Circle N on the corner, but on the other hand if you want to develop your property and you come to the City with a quality commercial neighborhood ser^vice we'd Ge willing to talk to you about it because in policy it would comply with the intent of the Comprehensive Flan and that's how we would use it. Watson: So any of us four people on that corner, we could 6e thinking in ter^ms of selling to Mover^ick ar somebody else. Forney: Yes. Watson: Rt,t the guy on up the r^oad he don't even want to think abot,t it, r^ight? For•~r^ey: That's correct at this point. .lohnson: Thank you. Rnyone else? Dave Tucker, 1438 S. McDermott, was sworn by the attorney. Tucker: I jtvst had a question, I was wandering what was happening with the Shoshoni Building an the annexation into the City. What the anticipated date is ar^ if it's already annexed. For-rey: It has been annexed. Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else? Robert Morrison, 3841 Woadmont Drive, Meridian, was sworn by the at t or^ney. MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING SERT. 14, 1993 PAGE 1S Morrison: The Idaho Statesman again gat yorr people in trouble, it got me down here. 7 noticed in that they said extending the golf tour^s e, building a new golf course and this gentleman didn't say anything about golf courses tonight which was in the paper. It seems to be Met^idian's best kept secret. who owns, who rr_ms or how does that golf course run and even when yor.r ask questions yo~.r don't seem to be able to get any answers. Is it going to 6e extended? Is it another golf cor.rrse, what's going on? Johnson: Well it's no Gig secret so we can srtre tell yorr what. we know which isn't a lot. Forrey: This is the edge right. here of the existing Cherry Lane Development with the nine holes of golf right here. The reason that nothing has came farther west is because this happens to 6e the sewer boundary. If you were r.rp close yor.r'd see a diamond pattern right through here, in order for anything to develop on the west side of that line, this shaded area that's vacant. looking right here, the^ee things have to Ge accomplished. First of all there has to be a lift station constructed right het^e. There would have to be a farce main that would take that and p~.rmp it back to the waste treatment plant here and then there's a 33" Rlackcat trunk that needs to be constructed south along Dlackcat Road. All of this area dr^ains into this proposed Rlackcat trunk. The City is right now negotiating with Frighten Corporation to construct a lift station, a force main and about a half mile of that 33" trunk sometime I think in the next 1H-t4 months. Rs soon as those thr^ee pieces are in place then you or anyone else that owns pr^operty in this area would have access to sewer. One of the reasons the City is interested in pushing that forward is to get that. back nine holes Gecarrse the community feels that's an important part of o~_rr recreation program to offer more golf to get that extra nine hales. Nothing is concrete but we're moving in that direction. Morrison: I=_. the City, we can't seem to find out, leasing this thing fur a buck a yeas°? Johnson: I don't know the figure. I know it's leased on a lung term lease. Morrison: Aut the City has Hotta ng to do with the operation of it? Johnson: No. MERIDIRN PLRNNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PRGE 16 Mor^rison: So when we want something done abo~.rt how it's being operated who do we go to? I've even asked one of our Councilman and I don't seem to get mirch answers. Johnson: Well since the City is the lessor I'd think you'd have to go to the City. Morrison: Can you tell me who, where and how. Johnson: Well I think I'd start with the Mayor. Morrison: We've tried that too. Johnson: I didn`t know there was a problem and that's where I would go. I'm s~_rre all the details on the length of the lease and the cost and everything that's all p~.rblic information. Morrison: Like I say when we have a coeplaint or something the way it`s being operated we hope it never get's it's other nine holes. Rs a tax payer^ we ought to be able to find or.rt these questions. Rlidjani: Sir, I know in the lease that when the next nine or the back nine is developed it is par~~t of the or^iginal lease for- the fr^ont nine. So the sane individr_ral that is the lessee at the present time will run that nine hole. Mor^r^ison: I hope they don't r^ent my pr^operty. Thank you. Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else^ Eldon Kelly, 3555 W. Woodmont Drive, Meridian, was sworn by the attorney. Kelly: I wanted to echo the gentle®an before me's tho~.rghts. I know yo~.r don't want the repetition but I wanted to tell you one thing. I'm a new comer in the City of Meridian. 1 moved to the City of Met^idian because I want to comsend yo~.r people or. how you have contended with the growth that you've had in this community. I moved here for two things, because I wanted the quality of life that Meridian can offer, your reputation has far^ preceded you. Also I bought it because I'm a golfer. I live on the gulf course and in your Comprehensive Plan I see no plans whatsoever for any type of golf course other^ than what we have now. What are yo~.ir plans? Do yor.r expect to do anything abor_rt that? MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 17 Forrey: I guess it's no secret, thei^e hasn't been a public announcement but the City has two active proposals to the City Council in confidential situation an golf course development, Goth private. One developer has indicated that they would consider developing the gaff course and all the homes around the golf course and then turning it over to the City fur on-going oper^ation grid maintenance. Kelly: My point. exactly. I can bring two developers that would do that. Forrey: We'r^e talF~ing to one, and the second developer^, both of these proposals by the way are in this immediate area on the map but they've asked that we not identify for development t^easons, but the other one is up here a private golf course, nine hole executive short course, played in a hoau^ and half after^ work kind of thing and they see that es a real bonus and a need in the Meridian area. While we didn't address it specifically in the plan I think we should on the public side, but I just want you to know that the City is looking at two separate proposals because we recognize golf is important in the community. Kelly: Thank yau. Johnson: Thanes you Rmos Vernon Craft, attorney. Anyone else? 3410 Woodmont Drive, was sworn by the Croft: I would like to have it put in the record that any future golf co~_rrse have a green belt around it with a walking path barricaded with a double line of trees between the golf course and the walking path. Another item, pressurized irrigation all futair^e developments. Another item, street lights all f~.rture developments, yard lights do not do the job. With your future growth and the density incr^easing your going to need the street lighting. Johnson: Thank yau. Anyone else? Randy Stevens, 17E,0 Star Ln., Meridian, was sworn by the at t or^ney. Stevens: I'd like to ask some questions about the impact fees. Will they be on the developer^s per acre or per home MERIDIRN PLANNING & ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 18 Johnson: There have been several formulas proposed. Forrey: In the Comprehensive Plan there's several sheets tucked in the back, one of them pertains to impact fees and the hand out indicates that the City has organized an impact fee committee. The Committee has had several meetings and we're following the pr^ocess allowed for in State Law to implement impact fees. Several things have to occ~_rr befor°e we can implement the fees. One of which is an adopted Comprehensive Plan, the second item is an updated Capital Improvement Program, a third item is the Committee, a fourth item is an identification of acceptable comm~.mity standards. One of the gentlemen that spoke tonight about fire he mentioned a standard for police and standards for fire. One of the standards that's in this doc~.rment pertains to recreation. Five acres of park plan for every 1,000 residents. If our standar^d is more than that or less than that it makes a different on how you calculate your impact fee. So in this hando~.rt that is in the Comprehensive Flan we've asked for^ citizen input on what you feel is an acceptable comm~_rnity standard for police, fire and parks. Police and fir^e is a little difficult beca.rse if you'd j~_rst had a crime at. yo~_n^ house you'd probably want ten officers, but if everythings fine yo'-r could probably live with 1 officer per thousand. The Police Chief and Fire Chief ar^e doing the best they can b~.rt we need your input and so does the recreation department so ~.rntil we get those community standards identified we can't really set. impact fees but here is our sched~-ale after the Comprehensive Plan is adopted and after we get all of the input on an acceptable standard in those three areas then we're going to move forward into defining formulas and the technical studies to implement the fee. So in the months ahead again we'd like yo'_r input and it would mast likely be on a per^ lot basis that would be collected at the time a building permit is issued and right now the proposal is to look at a fee on parks, fire and police. Stevens: Okay. Also I have subdivision and I'm concerned wa~_~ld give us room if we could encroach right up ayainst ~.rs. horses and I see a r°eal p subdivision and the next yard keep our animals if you take policy on that? a concern, we live in a one acre about possibly a buffer area that keep o~_rr animals that we have, not Several of our^ neighbors have stud robl em with children in the next back to back. Would we be able to us into the City? What is the MERIDIAN PLRNNING 8 ZDNING SEPT. 14, 1993 PRGE 19 Forrey: I guess the shortest answer is that farm animals are not allowed in the City of Mer^idian rror in Roise City. There are some grandfather provisions and T'd have to ask the City Rttorney ] think there's a time limit on some farm animals in the City. Crookston: In our^ Ordinances it reads right now if your pr^operty was annexed into the City and you did have far^m animals on it those animals could stay there as long as yw.r kept they Cher^e and if you cease for a period of time you could still keep them there or if they were removed far three months let*s say they had to ga to the veterinary hospital and they were there for three months you could bring them as long as no longer per^i ad than one year lapsed. Stevens: Okay is this the same animal or could somebody bring another^ one ins Could you sell one and get another or.e~ Crookston: It's not necessarily the same animal. Stevens: Okay thank you. Johnson: Thank you. Anyone else? Sheri Raker, 1746 Jericho, was sworn by the attorney. Raker: One of my concerns again is in response to what Mr. Forrey was ,}ust talking abaut, cammunity standards, the ratios as far as you know five acs^es per thousand people, the police ratios that the plan shows. Unfortunately I didn't know that the new pink updated copy was available. Does that address the fire r^at i o s ? Forrey: No, well basically we'r^e asking for your input on a fire standard. Raker: Okay. One suggestian that I have heard would be good and has been regraested would be one fire fighter per thousand people. If we have that how accountable is the Council to holding to that? I mean what steps do they have to take emergency measures if it gets or.tt of that ratio? Johnson: I think ratios are again, guidelines generalized. They are never going to fall exactly. Reca+ase of the growth that would be impossible, there are some budgetary things that have been dare in this coming fiscal year with respect to the fire depar°tment. MERLQIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SERT. 14, 1993 PAGE ~0 Faker,: Well ver^y minor. Johnson: Well percentage wise it's like doubling it. Faker: That still doesn't give us 24 hour paid fire protection. Another thing, the way the Statesman said it as far as the response time is to maintain a five min~.cte or less response time. The plan says maintain a goal of five minc_rtes, to me that's redundant, you don't maintain a goal. Yo~_r either maintain a response time or you try to achieve a goal and I thought that's something thatshoc_cld be clarified when the plan is final. Johnson: That's a good point. Raker^: Rnother question is on the r^ecycling, my suggestion would be that we move the date ~.rp. In the plan it shows 96 and I would hope that that would 6e moved up. 1 talked to Mr. Yerrington probably a couple of years ago and asked when are we going to get a recycling program in Meridian and his answer was Poise was just getting theirs kicked off we want to wait and see how they ar-e doing. Well that was two years ago and here we're stilt talking three more years down the line and I think that that needs a little more priority. It's samething that we need now and it just gets wnr^se as we grow. I think it's something that's riecessar^y now. I know a lot of my neighbor^s, we all recycle and we all complain that we have to drive down Glennwood or down to Western Recycling on S. Cole to take all of ocrr recycling stuff and it seems to me that two years have gone by since I know I first mentioned it and it looks like three more years according to the plan will go by before something is done. I*d like to recommend that that date get moved up and we try and implement something a lstt2e sooner than that. Forrey: It's referred to in the Capital Improvement Frrogram, the last chapter. It anticipates. schedules in budget allocations from the City so it doesn't mean recycling couldn't start now. What that implies is that the City would start to put tax dollars into that pr~agra^ in 1996. Faker: Then how so we go about doing it now? Forrey: It sho~.cld act~_cally start as maybe a private sector activity and then maybe enhance thr^n~.cgh public participation. We have a Commissioner here that's an expert in that area. i MERIDIAN PLANNING 3 ZQMTNG SEPT. 14, 1993 PRGE cl • Rlid.jani: Fur evee^y ane tho+.+sand yo+.+ are asking for one fireman is it a full time? Raker: Yes full time paid fireman. Alidjani: We have checked a~.+t thro~_+gh the system each house would cost a private corotractor approximately samewfrere between 51.50 to 51.25 at their cost. A private contr^actor would contr^act your recycling pragram wo+.tld s~_+pply you then, he's expecting to get twenty five to thirty cents o+_+t of each household when he sells ttrose mater^ials at the recycling center in a regional at^ea. The support was not there as a majority that. they wish to pay another- extr^a SL 25 or 51.30 or 52.00 for the recycling person to come in and ha+.+l that away and the understanding is that he takes money from me to recycle the material, then he takes it and sells it and makes mar^e money. Raker: Yes, I timderstand that. When was that done as far as that survey"' Rlidjani: The way it works out is act~.+ally cost originally to start the system and it will cost continuo~_+sly for the manpower and equipment to continue that on. The way I ~_+r+derstood it is it's about 51.25 ro+.+ghly per house is the cast to br^eak even per month. That's ors a four times a month service or^ once a week. Raker: When was the sa+r^vey done? When was the last time you polled people? We have so many people that live in Meridian now, a lot more people that have moved from other areas and they are ~.+sed to paying outrageous prices far^ nut even fur recycling and it's mandatory. Thank yoa+ for ya~_+r information that helps me. Tohnsan: Thank you. Rnyone else? Don Aryan, 2070 N. Locust Grove Rd., Meridian, was sworn by the attorney. Aryan: First off I'd like to commend all'of you for doing such a good .job on this Compr^ehensive Plan, especially Wayne. It's something we've needed for a long long time and I reviewed a little bit of it with the first draft and I saw that it has something ir; there far fencing and berming and pr^otection of rural areas when^e they abr_+t new developments. I guess I have the same question as a lady previously that gave testimony, what constit~_+tes a rural parcel? I mean how many acr^es does it have to be? More than five, over one" hiERIDIRN PLRhJNING 8 ZONING SEPT. ik, 1993 PRGE.? Johnson: I don't know if we have a concrete definition, do we Wayne? Forrey: The 19?8 plan defines r+_+r°al as five to ten acre fats and that's where that has carried through. We didn't specifically define rural an this update tn+t part of the old plan is incorpor^ated into this so that's where it come=_. from. Maybe you could r^ecommend something far +_+__. to consider. Pryan: Okay I would r^ecommend a little less than that since 1 have .j~.+st under two acres and you know where I live. I have horses and maybe someday I'll have more than horses, I'll have pigs, gaits and sheep Cut I'd like to keep a separ^ation between the residential and the r-ur-a2. You know as well as I do when I made the agreements with the previous developer he reneged on them and I had to pay for^ them myself. I saw in yo~.+r draft that you address that pr^o Clem and you require fencing to separate the two and Cerms and landscaping Cut you don't say what types. Johnson: I know there's been disc:_rssian on types of fence for different applications. Rountree: That gets to the Ordinance level of detail and I thinN the policy is the type of fence wo~_+ld be addressed in the subdivision ordinance specifically. Pryan: Is that something we have to come negotiate at the Planning and Zoning Meeting or the City Council Meeting? Johnson: I think the pasture at this point is to handle that on a case by case basis and I don't see that changing. We migta get a little more defined definition. Pryan: What happens is yo+_r have a developer ready to build a multi-million development and add a tax hose to the City and yo~.+ have one per^son on the other^ side of the fence fighting his ar^gttment ar+d you look at the two sides and who yo+_+ going to go with, I mean if we can't come to terms on the type of fence, I think the decision is going to go with the money man. Johnson: I don't really see that happening, it could happen sure yo+.rr right. I know we have had specific cases not to long ago where types of fencing were disc+.+ssed Ceca~.rse of lighting and that sort of thing for example. We've jr.+st always har+dled those on a case by case basis and I think that's how they are going to be addressed. MERIDIAN. PLRNNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 23 Rryan: 1 understand what your saying. I just want to bring it to your attention now so in the future when I'm her°e arg~.ring again that I'll say that I talked to yo~_r about this in the Comprehensive Plan stage. iohnson: Right and now it's on tape and we'll know you did. Thank you. Anyone else? Carmen Mayes, 3710 E. Fr^anklin Rd., Meridian, was swam 6y the attorney. Mayes: I was hear the last hear^ing and I'm coming back with one of the same things. It was nut brought cep at your meeting and I'm concerned. I live on Franklin Road and I've read the old, the new and the real new and I still see nothing addressiny the four^ lanes that I feel are needed on Franklin Raad. It is a major artery, it is one of your entrances to the City. Presently already zoned are enough houses within that mile to make that a major highway. All the cars do not go down the interstate. At five o'clock in the morning I can hear the roar of the traffic on Eagle and down Franklin Road and I assr_rre yar.r it's bumper to bumper traffic, even in good times and worse when it's winter. I'm concerned that the highway department itself has nut included this in their futr.rre plans for c0 years and nor has this plan addressed that. I will came all the way from the impact on Cloverdale and Fr^anklin all the way into your City and all the way further if you want to go into the Raise area until it get's to the four lane r^aad which is I think Maple Grove. I'm back becar_rse you didn't hear^ me the first time so I want yo~_t to hear me this time. I also wanted to second the motion by the gentleman that expressed the maintenance of pressurized irrigation on sr_rbdivision lots. I worked very ~iard in the Edgeview Estates to get that accomplished and I believe that ground water' in our area is going to be in jeopardy if we do not star^t demanding that people in these subdivisions keep the irrigation and r_rse it sa that we can replenish same of the ground water. Also I looked at the last plan in the Library and I noticed that review/design that was quite an issr.re was x'ed out. ] don't know what's happened to that so when I'm finished maybe someone can speak to that. Finally, a bit of frustration on my part, not only with the Raise paper but the Meridian paper. I came here Friday night, September ]0th and there was na Meridian City Council Meeting. I was the only car- within distance so I F;new something was wrong, then 1 read the thing again and I saw MERIDIAN PLANhdING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 2v that this meeting was tonight and then it listed there were going to be besides the Comprehensive Flan, the Zoning and Development Ordinance and that the Development Fee Dr°dinance would be discussed. Those are fry-rstrations I have as far as trying to find out when these meetings are. Johnson: Thank you. Have you talked to ACRD regarding Franklyn Road? Mayes: I went to their open meeting and I even wrote it on their charts br.rt they do not have it listed as one. I thinN if a City, like Meridian showed the concern that Z feel they should 6e showing that that would mean mor^e to them than a citizen like myself appearing and giving the testimony. Johnson: Thank yw.r. The City Council meets the first and third Tuesday of ever^y month. Rnyone else^ Max Hoesiger^, 1399 E. Monterey Drive, was sworn 6y the attorney. Hoesiger: My concern tonight regarding yor-rr Comprehensive Flan, and by the way I also commend yotr for doing a good joG on it. My concern is over the financing of it. The way this would 6e paid for of course is the issue of impact fees. Although I hate to see impact fees implemented beyond where they are presently, the reason I say that of co'_rrse is because it just r^aises the cost of the lots and that generates a momentum. Pretty soon people can't afford to live in Rda Coxmty. That momentum gets star^ted and you can't stop it. We .just had highway distr^ict impact fees implemented a few years ago and you may go ahead and implement two different additional fees and I see momentum starting and that^s a concern to me. But I have to say that the impact fee at least is a fair tax on growth. It's fair 6ecar-rse every building site pays a fee. You don't just get the big development and let the little ones sgcreak through without any penalty and that's important. Rt least if your going to do it your on the right tr^ack, I just hate to see it happen. Rnother^ thing too that you may not know about is that the development community is working with the School Districts and has offered to help them write Legislation to adopt transfer taxes to go towards schools and what we'r^e trying to do is get the Legislation whey^e the fees generated would go just to the Cor.rnty where they were generated in rather^ than being spread into the rest of the State like o~_n^ c~-rrr^ent taxing structr_u^e is. We're trying to work with them on that to get that kind of Legislation adopted and what that doe=_. MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 25 is it's a smaller tax that would be taxed on the sale of every piece of Real Estate in the Co~.enty and that money would stay in the Co~.mty to be used for schools. That's a very fair way to ta.c growth. The thing that I 1-eeard on T.U. that caused me great: concern and I hope they take yo~_e out of context the same way they do me was when I heard Wayne say that what we're going to do from now on is force developers to give up land for things like schools and parks and if they won't give it up we won't approve their subdivisions. I heard him say that Gut I suspect they took him oeet of context and I hope that's the case because that's not - I think yo~.e should con s_elt with your attorney on that issue, that's considered taking. As lung as a seebdivision meets all of the requirements of an Ordinance within that zoning district I don't think you have the right to take anything away from the development. ]f you can take away from a developer^ then that means yo~.e can also take away from anyone else. Rnother thing that I hear many people say, even City Officials, ever, Mayoral candidates is make development pay it's own way, well it already does. Developers pay fur the sewer lines, water lines, for all the utilities, the streets, the curb, gutter, sidewalk, street lights, fences aro~_end the seeGdivision, then when they begin developing houses the fees that the Guilders pay go towards paying fur it's proportionate share of the cost of maintaining the sewer plant, the water infrastructure and so forth. The impact fees that. they pay goes toward widening the streets coming up to the s~.ebdivision, anything that additional growth demands place on the infrastr^uctur^e. So how can you say that growth doesn't pay it's own way, it does already. People should understand that, even especially City Officials aced people that are running for Mayor^ sho~,eld e_enderstand that. Johnson: Thank you. Rnyone else? Betty Rermensolo, 1970 Canonero, Poise, was sworn 6y the attorney. Aermensolo: I'd like to offer that I've come to the initial public hearing that was in regards to the Comprehensive Plan, the initial draft of it. I've worked a great deal with Wayne, I've disc~_issed a number of the policies that are contained in the fie^st draft of the comprehensive plan with Wayne and with the Southwest Ada County Rlliance Aoard of Directors and we have some policies that we're really cancer^ned abo~.et either adding un to or ensuring that. they reeeain. First of alt school policies under U MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 26 enr^ollment 2.10, based on recommended last class size and current school capacity exercise options to ens~_ire that quality education is provided to all school children. Now this is a policy that your not going to find in the comprehensive plan b~_it one that we feel we should recommend and wo~_rld like to recommend. Options might incl~_rde request the development community provide additional tin-auda61e1 to a school site prior to granting a building permit if Meridian School District indicates a priority. .j~.ist heard this gentlemen indicating that we don't want to mandate to many things to the development community but I do feel that the pr^ice of growth is being placed on the children. ,Iohnsan: Wo~.ild you give me an example there of what you mean? Just graphically, why don't yva use Meridian High School. Aermenso2o: Why don't 7 use Mary McF'hrerson Elementary because I'm familiar. 1 feel that where there is enough room to add to an existing school when a large number^ of children will be attending that school that it might serve as an option for the development comm~.mity to work with that recommendation from Meridian School District in b'.rilding an additional wing. 1 rinderstand that the impact fees are definitely a possibility but at this time we don't know haw the band is going to go and we feel that some options and same language might help to see that if the bond does not pass there might 6e some action that can be done .jointly with recommendations from the Meridian School District. with more specific lang~_iage. Johnson: Let's take your example Mary McPherson, Max Boesiger who just. spoke here is going to p~.rt in 200 lots adjacent to Mary McPherson, are you saying that in order for us to approve that, that we should tell him that he has to provide eno~.igh f~_mds to add a wing onto the school? Aermensolo: I don't think that it would have to 6e a venture that he entered into independently Gut I think if there's one developer that's planning a subdivision, there's probably two or three, I'm j~.ist concerned about those 200 lots re pr°esenting probably 400 children. Everybody is aware of the over capacity in the schools but I wo~_ild like to recommend stronger language in the comprehensive plan that gives us some specifics rather than genet^alities to fall back on. Jpr~r~sor,: 5~_it this specific language that you are using targets only tt~e developer. Is that r^ight? MERIDIAPJ RLANNING 8 ZCNTNG BERT. 14, 1993 RAGE ~7 Rer~mensolo: As far as I know the developer^ is the entity that will be br^inging additional children into an ar^ea. Johnson: No it's the families that have children that bring the kids into the area, it's not the developer. My point. is, and I'm not being smart about this, my point is that the demand is there. The developer is filling that demand, is he nat. Rermensalo: I'm not asking the developer not to Guild the homes, I'm asking for a board to 6e specific about the action that they can take if over crowding, and over crowding will always exist to a certain e>ctent but when capacities get to the paint that their at now, that specific language be introduced into the comprehensive plan to alter the sit~.~ation. I'd like to gu to the next one, Grand ~.ise. Under General Policies, I'd like to encourage that 1.ISU be warded, discourage strip commercial by avoiding commercial designation at every mile intersection, unless the residential need exists. I've disc~_rssed this with Wayne and I think he understands my feeling that you can say strip commercial is not encouraged by the City of Meridian br.1t I think that yo~_r need to go a step further. Under residential policies on page ~~ and I'm sorry I'm working from the initial draft, b~.rt 2.~U support strategies for the development of neighborhood parks within a21 residential areas, to include privately awned and association maintained parks. In talking to a narmher of developers I have found that developers ar^e willing to include open area and improve it within a private subdivision for the use of those children. Now if that went forward in every subdivision and it could be entry level subdivisions as well with a basketball course and a small perimeter grassy ar^ea but I think that there's a worthiness 6y the development community to do that and there would be no stopping children from going fr^om one subdivision to the other and I don't think that that would present a problem dawn the road if it was encouraged by developers on the whole. Under rural areas I heard the far^mers and people that were talking about protecting land use and I am a big advocate of protecting land use. 6.9U Under Rural Rreas - Proposed ~_irban density development which ab~_its or is proximal to existing rur^al residential development shall be subject to design review committee. Approval with r^e presentation and inp~.rt from the existing residential development. MERIDIAN PLANPJING & ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 fiAGE 28 6.7L1 Existing Rural Residential Land Uses and Farms/Ranches shall 6e buffer^ed from urban development expanding into rural areas by innovative land use planning techniques including interface trar~sitianal density's and incr^eased set backs to protect rural land ~.rse. 6. 11LI, this is a policy that I discussed with Wayne and I feel is very appropriate as part of the development review process in areas where pr^a posed urban density development will inter^f ace with rural lands, agricultr.rral and r°ur°al/residential interest shor.rld be involved in defining appropriate interface transitional density's. I think that ttrat gives the gentleman that had two acres or less and helps him interact with the developer who wants to p~.rt a sr.rbdivision adjoining his ps^oper^ty and they can go forward and discuss what would be beneficial for both, be it a fence, be it set backs, etc. that will abut his two acres and I think this could be worked out between the development comm~.rnity and the existing neighborhoods, if it•s recommended by the City. I'd like to make a few recommendations here. Recommend keeping the for•~mal design review committee in place. Especially in mixed '.rse areas with representation from the existing neighborhood wher°e a project is being proposed. I dr. not want to see the design review committee being disbanded aG a time when growth i=_, expected to go in the direction that it's projected to go. We need to have design review in place. Recommend as part of the review process a pre-application conference between the applicant and the existing neighbor^hood or^ their r^e presentative. This wo~_rld be more economic for the development community if changes were made before the final plat was submitted. Recommend as part of the review process a pre-screening by RCHD of subdivisions plats. R traffic impact st+.rdy might be needed, traffic patterns and design may require modification. This would be less costly if done prior to final plat submission. Nuw both of those last items have been bror_rght up to me by developers, that it becomes such more costly after they have gone to submit their final plat to Planning and Zoning, at that point a lot of money is already expended. It makes more sense to have the pre-screening. I talked to ACHD about this idea. They have indicated that they can foresee problems that are going to require counting devices down the road in the layout of their plat yet they haven't had an opportunity to really get that input back until after a lot of money has been spent. I think that those recommendations might be looked into. The last one comes from discussing with Mr. Mabe MERIDIRN PLANNING d ZONING SERT. 14, 1993 PRGE :?S this afternoon, +he addend,.rm to the comprehensive plan. It reads, recommend Meridian School District be allowed to purchase Elementary School sites at developer acquisition costs. I think he spoke to Mr. Forney about that item earlier and he would .just like to see something in place that assisted the school irr locating school sites in that fashion. In talking to Mr. Mabe and he apologised for not having something written, ] discussed with him the changes that 1 see reflected in the addend~.,m which refers to the school facilities and I was very concerned as was he abw.,t the fact that the initial draft under enrollment policies incl,.,ded nine policies which I think are excellent language. I think Wayne did a great .job in helping to put some concrete language in place and in the addendum it's knocked down. In r^eading these enr^ollment policies to Mr^. Mabe he indicated to me that he was very pleased and felt comfortable with the initial draft of the comprehensive plan b,.,t he had not been given or^ been exposed to the addendum. I read these enrollment policies and obviously the one that the Commissioners talked about excl~_,ding the 2.2 item that says take appropriate actions to avoid overcrowding in the school as deemed necessary by the school district. It was extr°acted d~.rring the Rugust 16th meeting and it no longer is in the addendum. Instead of having nine policies fur enrollment we have three and three that really I don`t feel have nearly as much input and neither dues Mr. Mabe. He would like to see the three previous comprehensive plan as it talks and relates to school issues be bro~.rght forward again. and wo~.rld ask why, Meridian school district would nut be brought into the bridging and extracting of the policies when they felt and indicated that they were comfor^t able with the previous policies. He also asked me - Johnson: Yo,.n° going to have to wind it up ca~.rse your about fifteen minutes into it. Aermensolo: Okay 1`m going to say something here and P m going to read it right out of the outlook and I think it`s well p,.,t. Our^ childr^en are paying the price fur growth as each school classy^oom grows mor^e crowded the quality of education declines, tin-a,.,dible) and dr^op-out rates rise and credit is threatened. Students face many challenges today, space to learn shouldn't be one of them. I`m .just going to add that I feel that taking out a great deal of well worded and constructive information in the school policy section is not putting our^ children first. Not with the situation the way it is and not with the public outcry that exists. 3ohnson: Thank you. Rny q~,,estions of Mrs. Rermensolo^ MERIDiRN PLANNING d ZONING SEPT. 14, 1493 PAGE 30 Alid.jani: I'm one of the responsible parties for taking some of those a~_rt and one of the reasons I. 11 give you one reason out of six that you mentioned. It was saying that the City of Meridian fully support the election that is Sept. 28, 1993 or whatever the date is. I as an individ~_ral on this Commission believe until we have heard yo~_r people, I don't have any right to s~.rpport anything. It is your voice that. becomes our voice. (Explained further - see tape) Shearer: Betty, where abouts da you live? Rre you in Rda County or are ya~.r in Boise City? Bermensolo: I'm in the County. Shearer: Have you discussed with the County any aGout putting a design review in the Cor.rnty Comp. Plan" Bermensolo: I understand that the Cor_mty is going to be doing the same thing as ever-~ybody else and that is revising their Comprehensive Plan. It. will be a recommendation from the southwest I can assure you. Shearer: It seems to me that ya~.r want every individual to approach and tell everybody else what they should Guild on their proper°ties. I think we've cover^ed design r^eview pretty well in this new Comp. Plan revision. We don't have a committee doing it, it's done at staff level. It seems to me that it's covered. Bermensolo: I feel that with the growth that is pr^ojected for Meridian that it can only enhance the quality of life especially in mixed use ar^eas if a formal design review committee is put together. (Further - see tape) Johnson: Betty yor.r wrote a letter to the editor that was pr_r6lished in the Valley News where you indicated that this Commission was tr°ying to fool the people, what did yo~.r mean by that? Per^mensolo: I'm not used to going to F~lannirrg and Zoning Hearings in Meridian and I came to the initial hear^ing and it was an open meeting and I felt that nut only myself but other people were cut-off, I felt that it was less than a welcoming feeling. I was not sure that there wor_rld be a good tr.rr^n out on the second one. I felt that an open meeting should br just that and I tho~.rght it was inapprop~~iate at times for people to be cut-off -- NERIDIRN PLRNNING 8 ZONING SEFT. 14, 1993 PAGE 31 Johnson: Do you know how long yor.r~talked that night° Permensolo: I had a lot of things I wanted to say. Johnson: Da yor.r know how long you talked that nighty Well over a half ho~.u^. Nobody cut yor-r off. Permensolo: The second meeting which was a time far us to j'.rst listen to input that was gathered at the first p~.rblic hearing, nothing was said about what I had said. Uisc~_rssion Concerning school issue - see tape. *-»FIt.'E MINUTE RECESS*~ Johnsen: Meeting called back to order. Anyone else to testify? Peverly Donahue, 3775 N. Locust Grove, Meridian, was sworn by the attorney. Donahue: F'age 13 of the new comprehensive plan and I want to talk about 2. 1U and 2. 2U. We were at a meeting a couple weeks ago regarding Summerfield Sr-r6division and fir^st of all my comments on 2. 1U is r^outinely educate and update the public on the need to finance new school facilities, progr°ams of the Meridian School District and create new Legislature funding programs. My feeling on this is that the pr.rblic hasn't been educated at all in the City of Meridian, all we ever get educated on is it`s time to vote for a new school bond because our schools are over^crowded. Dur main concern with this new subdivision was that the schools have no r^oom for all these new childr^er~. (Addressed fr-u°t her on school overcrowding iss~_re - see tape? Johnson: Read 2. 2U out loud. Donahue: To take appropriate actions to avoid overcr^owding, are you leaving that in the revised one? Johnson: No because overcrowding would only be one part of what we would feel to be an appropriate action or an action that the ed~.rcational system might need. Our statement is broader which would encompass that of course. Donahue: So defining the word "overcrowding" would you say a school that' s over iQIQI%, 90Y.? MERIDIAN RLAMNING 8 ZONING SERT. t4, 1993 PRGE 3~ Johnson: That's not up to us to decide what's over^crowded and what isn't because we have to rely on tt-:e school distr^ict to tell rrs what that is. Donah~.re: That's my next problem. At these meetings I don't see any school district people here, do you? Johnson: I don't see any tonight, we have had some ire the past and of course they worked on some of the committees. Donahue: Expressed concerns about no representation from school - see tape. Johnson: You need to get their attention but I don't think you can expect us to do that. The invitation is there and they know when these meetings are and they get a copy of every application that's s~_r6mitted 'and they come back to us with a form letter that says cer^tain things, one of which is we can't pr^omise your kids will wind up in that school, they may be based somewhere else. To this point that's basically the representation we've had. Donahue: May need stricter guidelines in comprehensive plan. Mr. Toisma made the comment, the school has the power° to stop this. They didn't have the power, the attorney checked into it. What we need to do is p~.rt some kind of guidelines in our Comprehensive Rlan that we have some kind of lead way, P m all for growth b~.rt we have got to have some kind of guidance in our comprehensive plan that's going to pr^otec~t our children. Johnson: I think yorr should also address the school board. Donahue: My next concern is on page 28, in the middle her^e on S.15U on the middle area it says mixed use area at Locust Grove and Fairview Avenue plus areas north of Fairview Avenue, these areas are - and it goes on and then at the bottom, in order to stim~.rlate planned development in these, it was neighborhood, it got changed to area. Johnson: That's beca~.rse neighbortroads wer°e specifically defined. Area is a broader^ term so it might not necessarily be a neighborhood that's there. Donahue: Concerned about r^ural areas and buffer zones. MERIDIAN PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 33 Johnson: There ar^e different ways of buffering and density is just one. There's landscaping, there's natural terrain, there's canals, dr^ains, ditches, that sort of thing that act as buffers. Puffer is kind of a br^oad term that encompasses all those things including density. (Gave examples - see tape? Discussion - see tape. Donah~.te: On Page 33 where yor_r put in b.9U the development in areas of high ground water or poor dx•~ainage soils will req~.rire engineer^ing development. When this comprehensive plan was put into effect was any engineering report done on this considering the N. Locust Grove area about the high grotmd water before approving subdivisions? Crookston: I think for the benefit of you specifically and Mrs. Permensolo and all tt"re other^ pr_rblic, there's case law from the Idaho Supreme Court that says that a comprehensive plan basically is designed to tae a genera] idea and the specifics are delegated to the zoning ordinance and the subdivision ordinance. There is a specific case where an applicant came in for a land use and he argued that it was allowed by the comprehensive plan, the City Council said, no your right, there was an adjacent land owner that said that can't 6e right because the zoning ordinance says this and it wasn't allowed. The land owner appealed and the Supreme Courts says that*s right, the zoning ordinance is contr^olling. That's where your specifics are supposed to 6e is in yo~.u^ zoning ordinance and your subdivision or^dinance. The comprehensive plan is by it's very nat~.rre a general idea of what things are intended to be in the fr_rture. That's why m~_rch of this may not be as specific as you would like to see. Johnson: The ground water would be addressed when the application was s~.rbmitted. If it's in an area where we know what the ground water problems are in there, we would probably call for a ground water st~.rdy at the time of the application. Donahue: The Strmmerfield Subdivision didn't have a request for one. Johnson: On that one we didn't, this wasn't in the old comprehensive plan either we've j~_rst added that. Shearer^: This is not adopted yet. Discussion concerning the gr^ound water issue - see tape. MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING SEPT. 14, 1943 PRGE 34 Farrey: As a follow ~.rp to one of yo~.rr comments, the Summerfield project a few weeks ago, sometimes it's a little cumbersome to explain how tt+e courts require the City to evaluate development but there's a Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law that's riot distri6~.rted until it's either approved by the Commission or the City Council, 6iet in that. part.ic~.ilat^ of that p:^o.ject it was proved that there was a list of conditions with S~.immer~field. Dne of the conditions an the Summerfield project was that the developer and the Mer^idian Schaal District find an acceptable site for a futur^e school facility. If yorr recall the developer indicated that he would do that. In affect the testimony that you and others provided was in fact implemented. Yo~+ have had do impact and the schools ar^e being addressed, perhaps not in a specific way that your asking right now immediate b~.it aver time I think yo~.i'll find that this process will get refined so that we will have schools constructed as there is demand fur those facilities. The q~.restion was asked about ground water and the City is aware of that area, ire fact we have a meetiny scheduled with ttie developer^s and homeowners with water in cr^awl spaces fur next Tuesday here at City Hall at 4:00 and your welcome to attend. Again, this policy was placed in because of a lot of the problems that have surfaced out ire that ar-~ea and the only way we can address it is if people bring it to our attention and then it'=_. covered in a comprehensive plan and then we get very specific in our development ordinances. 1 think that's the process we're going to take down the r^oad in the f~_rttrre. .Iohnson: Thank you. Rnyone else'? Mike Donahue, 3775 N. Loc~.rst Grove, was sworn by the attorney. Donahue: I've been in California for 25 year^s in the building industry. I grew up in that area when it looked .j~.rst like this. They had the same problems that you g~.rys ar^e facing right now. They pirt off a21 these s~.rggestions until it gat so bad that they didn't any choice. The City ran out of money, they couldn't pay for the growth that was going on. So what did they do, they started assessing the Guilders fees. I just built a house a year and a half ago, 532,000.00 worth of fees to b~.rild a house. If we force fall all these impact fees and just say this is going to kill development, that's wr^ong. When all these people loose these jobs who's gat the money to pay for these homes. I think the p~.r6lic has a right to their inp~.rt. {Explained Further^ - see tape) MERIDIAM1I PLRNNING R ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PRGE 35 Jotmson: Thank you. Anyone else? No response. R couple of things I wanted to bring up, we have a letter from Larry Sale at ACRD basically giving full support to our new compr^ehensive plan. He inch-rdes some rewarding on page 1, policy 6 that he would like to see. Rlso US Department of Interior, Mr. Jay Gregg is very supportive of the compr^ehensive plan. He thought specifically that we o~.rght to include the Nine Mile Drain when we mention the other drains. SF'age 31 1.1U is what he is referring to) He also suggests some wording change on page 23, 1.4U that we should look at. Rnyone else on the commission have any comments? Shearer: I think we ought to mention that a lot of the Items that have been talked about tonight ar^e really concerning ordinance and not comp. plan. For^rey: The lady sitting next to me, Diane Peaulieu, had to leave and she dad hand me this letter and wanted it enter^ed into the recor^d. It contains some suggestions on noise and weeds. For^r^ey: My summary comment would be this, I think we should get to a point where we arrive at a recommendation to the City Council and take the testimony that's been offered tonight and prior and continue to look at that and all of this I think will make a good improvement to the plan and move it to the City Cotmcil so the Council in a different level of hearing can then re-open this issue and ultimately get an to an adoption so that then we can move to the issues th=at really I think ar^e the critical ones he.^e. Johnson: Thank you. Rountree: I appr^eciate the input from the public. Hepper: At our last meeting I don't recall anybody saying that it was in their own special inter^ests to do away with design review or whatever other item it would be. At the last meeting I did mention that we need to look beyond o~rr own special interests and do what's best for the City. Johnson: I wlll close the public hearing at thls time. The Motion was made 6y Rountree and seconded 6y Shearer to have the attorney prepare Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law reflecting the input from the public at the two hearings held on the proposed Comprehensive Plan. Motion Carried: A21 Yea: MERiDIAP! PLANNING 8 ZONING SEPT. 14, 1993 PAGE 36 Crookston: Your next meeting is nat until next month, do yo~_r want these prepared prior and have a special meeting? Forrey: It wo°_ild be prudent to take this to the City Council on the third Tuesday in Qctober. If we co~_rld set a sched~.°le tanight we can get the proper notices in the newspaper and get a chance to start working on any changes ya°.i want to make and get that available to the pteblic again to get ready for^ the City Cauncil Hearing but that would require a special Planning and Zoning Meeting to appr^ave Findings of Fact. Disc~_rssion cancer^ning scheduling a special meeting. Johnson: Let's try to have a Special Meeting on Th~_rrsday, September 30 at 5:.30 P. M.. The Nation was made by Rountree and seconded by Alid.jani to have a Special Planning and Zoning Meeting on September 30, 1993 to address the Findings of Fact and Concl~.rsions of Law. Motion Carr^ied: All Yea: The Motion was made by Rountree and seconded by Shearer to adjourn the meeting at 10:14 P. M.: Motion Carried: All Yea: 2TAPE ON FILE (]F THESE F°ROCEEDINGS) ATTEST: WILL 6ERG, CLT CLERK RF'F°Rt1VED: W ~ I J NS , CHAIRMAN ~% clt SEP 1 4 ~qL,~ PUBLIC MEETING SIGN-UP SHEET (;~I~~' .+ Edi:}~/lidi?iti NAME: PHONE NUMBER: ~ ~ ~ ~ 5-s yy -------------------------------- - ~. ~ ~ 9 _ ----- - -----~3 ~s _4S ~{ ----- ---------------- -- _- ---------g 8 7 _- ~ 8__E ss _ ~c~~~ (~~~ ~ _. pis- - s^a7~ __Li i~~ ~t c~.., ~~9'- ~~7 g~ ~-~ga ~ ~• ~ N:- ~~`~' ~ - ~"~ (©-~ ~ 5eptemLer 2, ty93 Yern rlleman xanta a nex policy added to the land use chapter regarding "the right to farm" - a policy that addresses "continuation of faraing activities xithout disruption sa ¢ .. _ ___ -- re of adjacent residential development." ~_ We, the undersigned support this policae ~'~ / ~~ ~ ~ ~~` ~ a y~~ ~, ~"~ ,,11 ~ /~-u G!J ~~ ZUia n~. SeAuo,A 19u~t . /!le~~rlnti ~'p s3cu 700 ~'n ~ lJ~~. '" K~ w0. -~~ , ~3~3~ 905' S'o uf~s,~~ So /yl~,ls4 ~ ~~~ Y/ X778 lir/,cl.~,~,Q, ~:se Sd. 837oJ' ~Ul ~~/9iJFORtJ „~. 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