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MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING
NOVEMBER 7, 1988
ITEM:
MIN[7PES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD OCTOBER 11, 1988:
1; ELECT A NEW CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION: (APPROVED)
2: PUBLIC HEARSNG: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CENTRE VALLEY CORPORATE PARK:(RECOMMENDED APPROVAL)
3: FINDINGS OF FACT & CONCLUSIONS ON PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE (APPROVED)
PLAN:
MERIDIAN
NOVEMBER 7, 1988
Regular Meeting of the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission called to order
by Chairman Walt Morrow at 7:30 p.m.:
Members Present: Walt Morrow; Jim Johnson; Mo Alidjani; Jim Shearer; Charles
Rountree:
Others Present: Bob Jossis, Bob Nahas, K. Beumeler, Wayne Crookston, Bill
Hon, Laura Connors & Jack Niemann:
The Motion was made by Moe and seconded by Johnson to approve the Minutes
of the previous meeting held October 11, 1988 as written:
Motion carried: All Yea:
Chairman Morrow resigned from his seat on the Planning & Zoning Commission at this
time due to his appointment to the Meridian City Council. The Motion was made by
Rountree and seconded by.MOe to elect Sim Johnson as Chairman of the Planning
& Zoning Commission.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Item #2: Public Hearing: Preliminary Plat for Centre Valley Corporate Park:
Chairman Johnson: Is there someone in the audience to represent this request,
if so would you please come forward and be sworn in by the City Attorney.
Bob Jossis, 11120 Potomac Drive, Boise, Mr. Jossis was sworn by the City Attorney.
Jossis: I won't take alot of time to go through all of the details on this
because you've seen it before on the Conditional Use Permit Request Hearing.
Its basically a update for the Commission, there have been some changes and
progresses that have been made since the previous hearing. We are still looking
at the two accesses of off highway 55, I'll get into more detail on that in
a minute with another exhibit. The first phase of the subdivision that would
be platted would outline in orange, we may want to modify that somewhat by
including this five acre lot here that would be for Computrol's first expansion,
we may want to include that in the first platting and we also may want to include
this lot here that we are definitely going to instead of having one large lot
here we are going to split that in two so that we may be looking at including
this lot and this lot in the first phase of the plat. The only other change
that we are working on now is the location of this storm drainage retension
pond and park site, for two reasons, one to bring the park site & pond out to
this highway or the street so its clearly visible as an amenity when we come
in on this main access here and also to get it farther away from the irrigation
canal so we wouldn't have such a deep cut to construct this pond in the first
place. So from the engineering standpoint and from the visibility standpoint
we will be moving it out here to front the street. That's really the only
changes significant that we would anticipate as far as the schedule as to when
future platting of this area here may take place, it depends upon the interest
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in the purchasing of the lots from commercial and industrial users, Bob Nahas
may want to speak on that a little bit more.
Niemann: Your going to preliminary plat the whole thing then do a final on
that first part?
Jossis.: That's correct.
Niemann: In the comments the Fire Department had a little concern that there
was no way to get back to that Recreation area, for the fire and QRU both.
Jossis: We will have to maintain the irrigation lateral right of way so that
its accessible to Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District for maintenance on both
sides of the canal so we would be looking at having an access to the park
side both off of this street and down the canal right of way and in the future
on this street. The other thing we could do is provide provisions to insure that
emergency vehicles could come through the parking lot area for one through one
of these lots into this area, and when we redesign the configuration of these
lots and move this park facility closer to here its also going to make access
much easier. I think we can resolve that situation. I was just looking at the
comments very briefly and I, the comments from your City Engineer had written
a letter addressing the needed changes & I see no problems in meeting the
requirements that were outlined. Central District basically said that its
preliminary plat was approvable as long as central sewer system and water
system are provided which they will be. Nampa-Meridian basically said that
we need to submit our plans and design criteria as far as the crossing of
their lateral. A comment that we had not heard before was that they would not
be looking at allowing this job in the past within their right of way in thats
not a problem if that in fact is something that you are going to require, and
we are in the process now of finaling out our drainage plans that will be submitted
both to Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District and Ada County Highway Department.
Niemann: We haven't gotten any comments back from Ada County Highway, I don't
know whether they have been contacted.
Jossis: Not specifically. I think the one comment that we did receive from
them before was insuring that the radius on this curve was wide enough so that
we could pass two trucks under the designation but we have checked that out
using their criteria and have a 125' radius on this curve and that meets their
standards. Their other requirement was to begin submitting our drainage
plan to them so that they can be assured that the streets are not going to
be used for lot drainage and also we have submitted basically this plat showing
the location for the jogging paths the sidewalk to be extended from the terminus
of the jogging path to highway 55 and both of these locations and we've submitted
that to them for approval as far as meeting their requirements for the sidewalk
system for the park. Briefly on the improvements and accesses on highway 55
North is up here, Kentucky Fried Chicken is located right in here, this is the
north access here, and this is the south access here. We've determined basi.caf~
in discussions with the two property owners on this side, John Dobaran and G &
Enterprises that we will jointly submit a application to the State Transportation
Department for relocating the access here, the existing access at this point with
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G & H Enterprises has an easement from Dobaran to utilize an easement across the
front of the property to get access to the Kentucky Fried Chicken area, the
existing access on the east side located here utilize that access into the
corporate park you basically have a lot here that wouldn't be very usable
or would be not usable period. So we propose to move this existing access
south to a point which is directly across from the property line between Dobaran
and G & H and they have both agreed to that and we will be submitting a formal
application to the Transportation Department Board to move both of these accesses
south to this property line here. As part of that package a request will also be
submitted for an access to the Hon property north of the corporate park for a
separate access for them off Highway 55. Currently they don't have an access
other than through an easement that comes across the corporate park, I met ..
with the Transportation Department Board about a month ago and they approved
this concept subject to these two property owners agreeing to relocate their
access so we are in the process of getting that paperwork together now and re-
submitting it to the Board. It will be an improvement to Highway 55 in that
starting about this point in here and at the end of the I-84 Highway 55
improvement project the highway will be widened for a deceleration lane into
these access and an acceleration lane out of the access going north so it will
be widened essentially a lane with basically with all the way up to the Hon
access and the existing four foot wide raised media in the highway will be re-
moved and new lane markings painted in the highway which will provide for a left
turn lane here, this will be done as part of the State project and then we will
have a left turn lane into this access and a left turn lane into Hon's access and
a left turn lane into each of the corporate park accesses so it should improve the
traffic conditions on Highway 55. I can't think of anything else we've changed.
Chairman Johnson: Any questions from the Council?
Alidjani: I have a question regarding the preliminary plat. You said they are
going to utilize the irrigation easement next to the canal, is there going to
be any improvement on those areas or on that particular road or is he going to
leave as is.
Jossis: Right now the irrigation district only has an access road on the east
side of the canal. It's quit frankly rather unsightly from the standpoint of
what we are going to be developing here so we are going to be making some improvements
here as far as bringing in some clean fresh gravel to make a good access road
and perhaps a little bit of replanting of some grasses that need maintained along
the canal bank and adjacent to the right of way and so that in itself will bean
improvement as far as the west side of the canal there is no roadway there now
we have not discussed any specific improvements on that side of the canal with the
Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District in the extent of the improvements that would
need to be made to provide access to the park area I think we need to wait and see
until we have the park and intentions upon relocation out here. It may simply be
alot easier for emergency vehicles to come off this street rather than having them
go down the canal road.
Rountree: I think it is great that you have incorporated the park and the recreation
facilities but the question that always comes up is when is that going to be phased
in with this project, will that be in the first couple phases or will that be the
last thing that is done?
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Jossis: The pond and the detention basin itself as far as engineering function
for drainage will be needed in the first phase of the development because
essentially it provides drainage for everything on the west side of the canal
and so these two lots would have a drainage system that would come in through
that detenetion pond unless there was something done on a temporary basis
just to serve those two lots. Bob maybe you ought to speak to the plans as
far as the improvements of the park facility itself as far as the three
phases.
Bob Nahas, 245 Rooster Drive, Eagle, Mr. Nahas was sworn in by the City Attorney:
Nahas: As far as the park is concerned I would plan on doing that in the second
phase. We kind of have to go along with this as we have demand, there is alot of
infrastructure that has to be put into this park and so I am hopeful that we will
be doing something on that Motel/Restaurant site this year. If thats the case we
will be bringing in the second phase in 1989 as well as the first phase.
Rountree: So that would be the timing of the construction that would go with
the second phase, and the Hotel/Motel Complex?
Nahas: Yes it would.
Rountree: I have to assume that the care and feeding of that park is going to be
done with an assessment to the property owners out there.
Nahas: Yes, the common are~naintenance, it will be assessed against the individual
lot owners.
Jossis: We'll also have a common area along all the street frontage for about
a 20 foot wide parkway and this jogging path which would be a grass and some
landscaping as well as all that would be common area all around the park that
would also be maintained by the Association.
Rountree: Have you taken into consideration with those lots that are adjacent to
I-84 what use may be made of them in the noisy environment that they are adjacent
to?
Nahas: Of course we will have a landscape buffer along the freeway there which will
be able to deaden some of the sound .from the freeway, but the type of users I am
thinking about out there which will be mostly people who have a show room and then
a distribution facility in the rear of the building. That is a sacrifice that they
are willing to make for the exposure that they are going to be getting.
Crookston: What improvements are going along from the Cemetary Road back to the
south end of your development, Stratford Drive.
Jossis: The first phase improvements are what I have outlined in orange here,
Stratford Drive will be improved with curb, gutter & sidewalk on the west side and
also a 30' width of paving but essentially about 2/3 of the street would be built
and when the property over here on the east side developsthey would be responsible
for the curb, gutter & sidewalk and finishing the pavement. Essentially we'll
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have a street with two lanes of traffic improved up to this point here and then
from the property line north of Franklin Road there would not be any improvements
over the gravel street itself there now.
Crookston: what about from the entrance to the corporate park south. On your
east boundary line from the entrance of the corporate park and all the way south
out towards the freeway.
Jossis: No there would be no dedication of street right of way from this point
south, the street extension to the east would most likely come off this point
here and then go to the south to continue the frontage road along the interstate
as per your Comprehensive Plan.
Crookston: Has ACHD commented on that at all.
Jossis: Yes, we've had a couple of meetings with your City Engineer and ACHD
and this is what everybody seemed to accept. We just have the one access from
to Stratford Drive where the corporate park and of course Hon would also have
an access to Stratford Drive basically running through this way to its exit is
off Highway 55.
Chairman Johnson: Is there anyone else from the public who wishes to
testify. We are opening the Public Hearing now. No one wished to speak so
Johnson closed the Public Hearing. No further questions from the Commission.
The motion was made by Alidjani and second by Rountree to approve the Preliminary
Plat.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Item #3: Findings of Fact & Conclusions on Proposed Amendments to the Comprehensive
Plan:
Chairman Johnson: Any Comments. There were no comments.
The motion was made by Shearer and seconded by Alidjani to approve the Findings of
Fact and Conclusions. The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts an
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Rountree: I move that the Planning & Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the
City Council that the Planning and Zoning Commission's proposed Amendments to
the Meridian Comprehensive Plan should be approved and adopted.
Shearer: Seconded the Motion.
Motion Carried: All Yea:
Alidjani: I would like to make a motion that Jack write a letter to Walt Morrow
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signed from all the Planning & Zoning Members thanking him. Everyone agreed.
Being no further business to come before the Commission the Motion was made by
Rountree and seconded by Shearer to adjourn at 8:00 p.m.:
Motion Carried: All Yea:
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