1978 03-20
Af3ENDA
Planning and Zoning Commission
Monday March 20, 1978•
Itema:
1. Merle, Updike, Stonehonse, request for Annexation
2. Conditional use Carlton & Meridian Street. (Nouree~a 3rd Addition)
3. Terra Subdivision
Westviev tract Addition, M'aa Mcfieehee Property Weet Idaho 7(i7C~
and East of Weet 7th Street
4. Fl;ller Baxter Annexation request
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Meridian Planning and Zoning March 20, 197$
Meeting called to order by the Chairman, Willard Rowley
Members present: Annette Hinrichs; Don Sharp; Jim Kling; Burl Pipkin; Lee Mitchell
Others present: Edwin F. Jones; Larry Sale; Rick Thurber; Robert D. Jones;
Elmer Merle; Polly Mer le; Bill Houst; Steve Smylie;
Rev. C.F. Huit; Owen M. Frost; Howard Craven; Doug Larsen;
Carol Houst
The Hearing for the request for annexation of the Merle, Updike and Stonehouse
Properties began. There were no objections heard.
Mr. Rowley explained the resolution by the City Council that causes all annexations
to cease until the Comprehensive Plan is completed.
Mr. Rowley further explained that the developer shall come to City water lines
of the City at their expense and come to City sewer lines of the City at their
expense - no blank spaces, continuous annexation of all lands are a requirement.
Mr. Rowley explained that about all the Cornmiasion could do is to table the
annexation requests until a later time.
Mr. Rowley read the comments of the reviewing people, as follows:
1. Meridian Post Office - Want to review preliminary Platts for delivery
patterns.
2. Meridian Fire Department - Will not recommend approval unless water
mains and fire hydrants are installed prior to any construction.
j. Nampa Meridian Irrigation District
A suitable irrigation and drainage plan must be submitted to and
approved by their board.
4. Meridian Works Department
Not recommended annexation unless water and sewer are requested
to the City Council, and make immediate plans for connection.
5. JUB Engineers:
Lester R. Updike - the legal description is adequate. The letter
which accompanies the application states Mr. Updike xill hook to
City water and sewer when available. We are concerned about who
is going to construct the sewer and water lines to Mr. IIpdikes
property. Not that Mrs Updike should be burdened with all costs
of bringing water and sewer to his property but the City has set
precedent to past developers that they come to City water and
sewer. These problems should be addressed during development
plans and platting stages.
Elmer Merle - The legal description is adequate. Again how is the
iC'~-goin-g'~o serve this property with water and sewer if there
are no provisions to construct said utilities. These problems
should be addressed during the development plans and platting stages.
Stonehouse Evangelical Corporation " The legal description is
adequate. Our concerns are the same as stated for Mr. Updike's
and Mr. Merle's properties.
6. Planning and Zoning Policy
Do Hot Annex, these parcels, if annexed leave an area as an enclave
or an area surrounded, or encompassed by the city (Punning policy
is to annex all lands in the same area)
7. City Council
Policy is to allow no annexations until the comprehensive plan is
completed. See Minutes February 21, 1978
The other land owners should encourage the Enclave land owner to request annexation.
The Motion was made by Lee Mitdhell and seconded by Annette Hinrichs that the
Merle, Updike and Stonehouse Annexations be tabled until the Comprehensive Plan is
completed.
Motion passed: All yea.
Meridian P~anning_and Zoning .2. March 20, 1978
The Matter of the Fuller Baxter Annexation came up next.
The time of Rearing came, there were no objections.
The Motion was made by Don Sharp and seconded by Jim Kling that the Fuller Baxter
Annexation be tabled until the Comprehensive Plan is completed.
Motion passed: All yea
Annette Hinrichs suggested that Developers tic down their legal descriptions
more completely to help lay people locate.
Conditional Use Permit for office space for private use at 14 E. Carlton.
Ed Jones was present to explain that he wanted the Church building for an
office in his business. He also owns the land occupied by a residence to the
North of the property, across the alley
Comments:
1. Fire Department: Not recommending approval unless all remodelling is done
in accordance with Uniform Building and Fire & Live Saving Codes.
2. Mr. Howell and Mr. Laing, have indicated that they did not sign the
Petition.
3. Meridian Post Office: No Comment
4. Richard Williams: The Sr. Citizens have expressed a desire to secure
use of this building for their facility. As you know they have
nothing in Meridian. (would like to see this property used by them
and not for office.)
5. Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District:
The Developer should submit a drainage plan to them for approval
Mr. Kling suggested that this matter be postponed for further clarification of
parking, pending a plat plan and its use.
The Motion was made by Jim Klin and seconded by Don Sharp that the matter of the
Conditional Use Permit request be tabled for 14E Carlton for office use, to be
reconsidered at a later time, and that a develogmt sketch be provided concerning
the off street parking on his land in relation to curb cuts and access.
Motion passed: All yea.
There were about 9C~ signers in favor of this use. There were 3 who would not
sign. The developer stated this area would not involve building equipment and
parking of any kind.
It was pointed out to the developer that this will not necessarily need to be an
engineered drawing but it must be suitable to inform the Commission of what is
to be done here.
The Commission is concerned that whatever goes in at this area is an upgrade
from what it was. Cars backing from the parking to the street is not a good
way to go on into the future with the traffic building up like it is. Parking
should be designed as a safety factor.
Terra Subdivision, located in the West View Tract Addition was presented by
Rick Thurber. This is 6 lot development fronting on undeveloped street,
Idaho East of Gem Estates, Idaho developed East of 7th; 1.56 acres in size
(proposes 24 units) or 15.4 units per acre; Four-Plex on a 66' x 145' size lot;
2 bedroom units catering to newly married; adequate off-street parking is
provided.
Mr. Rowley asked where the children are to play in an area of this density.
The developers are willing to wait until the new sewer plant is completed before
building their structures.
It was the expression of the Commission that green areas need to be considered,
at least for a place for the little children to plaq closely to the home.
The Commission suggested to the developer that they would desire 10 units to the
acre as a maximum density. City problems multiply in relation to the density
and traffic is increased in the same ratio.
Burl Pipkin stated that if this proposal is above the planned density and he
would consider denying this proposal.
Meridian Planning and Zoning .3. March 20, 1978
Terra Sub (Cont'd)
The Commission would desire a sketch drawing of Building placement on the lot
in order to make a judgement.
The Motion was made by Don Sharp and seconded by Jim Kling that this matter be
tabled for the Terra Subdivision.
Motion passed: All yea
Larry Sale was present to explain the Meridian Manor Preliminary Plat that up-
grades the 1975 proposal that was accepted with smaller lots.
The streets will be the same - the lots will be longer.
Mr. Sale explained that due to the fact that the present sewer plant will be
abandoned his developers are able to consider larger tracts of single family
development.
The Motion was made by Don Sharp and seconded by Annette Hinrichs that the
Commission recommend to the City Council that they approve the Preliminary Plat
of Phase II of Meridian Manor #2 Plat of 1975.
Motion passed: All yea
Owen Frost presented Doug Larsen land to the south of Sandlewood.
A parcel 4}4 acres in size; 16 lots; 32 units of 4-Plex and duplex.
The roadway is designed to connect to the street in Sandlewood, Sandlewood Drive.
This area is not annexed at this time and cannot be considered until the
Comprehensive Plan is completed or the resolution to terminate annexations is
rescinded.
The Motion was made by Annette Hinrichs and seconded by Lee Mitchell that the
public hearing for the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission be set by
Ordinance to be on the second Monday of the month at 8:00 P.M.
Motion passed: All yea
There being no other business to come before the Commission the meeting stood
adjourned.
Chairman
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