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;~ -- MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING
' REGULAR MEETING
"° '' AGENDA
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City Council Chambers
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33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
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` Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.
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~, `J "Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn testimony,
~; all presentations before the Mayor and City Council are expected
~' ' to be truthful and honest to best of the ability of the presenter."
~~ ~' 1. Roll-call Attendance:
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` X Tom O'Brien _O Wendy Newton-Huckabay
_X David Moe _X Steve Siddoway
X Michael Rohm -chairman
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~? ~ 2. Adoption of the Agenda: Approve
3. Consent Agenda:
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.'' A. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2007 Planning and Zoning
' ~' Commission Meeting: Approve
~* `~ 4. Continued Public Hearing from October 4, 2007: AZ 07-012 Request
5 for Annexation and Zoning of 258.39 acres from RUT to C-G zone for
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~' ~' ~' Meridian Town Center by CenterCal Properties, LLC - NWC and NEC of
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;_, N. Eagle Road and E. Fairview Avenue: Continue Public Hearing to
` ~~``~'~~ November 15, 2007
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~~ 5. Public Hearing: RZ 07-014 Request for a Rezone of 30.08 acres from R-
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. 8 to C-N (13.59 acres) and TN-C (16.49 acres) zones for Cavanaugh by
°; `; Kasterra Develo ment, LLC -SEC of S. Meridian Road and E. Victory
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'~ ~ 6. Public Hearing: PP 07-015 Request for Preliminary Plat for 518 lots
~ " consisting of 443 single-family residential building lots; 1 residential
~u- .: building lot consisting of 32 apartment units; 8 residential building lots
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~j -- consisting of 61 future condo units; 4 mixed use lots consisting of
,' commercial retail on the 1St floor with 12 residential lofts on the 2"d floor; 9
A~` commercial building lots, 1 school building lot, 1 civic/social hall lot, 46
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~~, - common lots and 5 other lots on 177.43 acres in C-N, TN-C, TN-R and R-
-'w 8 zones for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S.
~ Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - October 18, 2007 Page 1 of 2
All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
'`' Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing,
~ ~`° please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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Meridian Road and E. Victory Road: Continue Public Hearing to
November 15, 2007
7. Public Hearing: CUP 07-017 Request for a Conditional Use Permit
approval to convert the existing Caven home into acivic/social hall in an
R-8 zone for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S.
Meridian Road and E. Victory Road: Continue Public Hearing to
November 15, 2007
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~~ ~ 8. Public Hearing: AZ 07-013 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 4.92
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,. ,;~ acres from Ada County RUT to an R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision by
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~~ Equity Development -1235 E. McMillan Road: Continue Public Hearing
"," to November 15, 2007
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Public Hearing: PP 07-017 Request for Preliminary Plat approval for 16
single-family residential lots and 3 common lots on 4.92 acres in a
proposed R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision by Equity Development -
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1235 E. McMillan Road: Continue Public Hearing to November 15,
.:7s~:., 2007
'~ 10. Public Hearin RZ 07-016 Re uest for Rezone of 3.66 acres from R-15
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~~ ° ~ zone to TN-R zone for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany
Development, Inc. -south of E. Overland Road and west of S. Eagle
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Public Hearing: PP 07-016 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 38
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12. Public Hearing: CUP 07-018 Request for Conditional Use Permit for 32
,` multi-family dwelling units on 4 lots in an existing R 15 zone on 2.93 acres
~~~ for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany Development, Inc. -
south of E. Overland Road and west of S. Eagle Road: Recommend
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Presentation: Landscaping Requirements of the UDC presented by
~~~ Caleb Hood (Time Permitting): Presented
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - October 18, 2007 Page 2 of 2
All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing,
j please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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E IDIAN~- MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING
1 p A ~ ~ REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
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City Council Chambers
33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.
"Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn testimony,
all presentations before the Mayor and City Council are expected
to be truthful and honest to best of the ability of the presenter."
~'~~~~~' 1. Roll-call Attendance:
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Tom O'Brien ~ Wendy Newton-Huckabay
. David Moe >'e- Steve Siddoway
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- Michael Rohm -chairman
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A. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2007 Planning and Zoning
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Commission Meeting:
-' -= 4. Continued Public Hearing from October 4, 2007: AZ 07-012 Request
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r,_ for Annexation and Zoning of 258.39 acres from RUT to C-G zone for
E ~ Meridian Town Center by CenterCal Properties, LLC - NWC and NEC of
~ .' N. Eagle Road and E. Fairview Avenue: ~®~ 1~t8° ~~~ ~• r q,~-~-
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;: 5. Public Hearing: RZ 07-014 Request for a Rezone of 30.08 acres from R-
;. ,. -.,
~' ~ ` 8 to C-N (13.59 acres) and TN-C (16.49 acres) zones for Cavanaugh by
~ Kasterra Development, LLC -SEC of S. Meridian Road and E. Victory
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.:: 6. Public Hearing: PP 07-015 Request for Preliminary Plat for 518 lots
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building lot consisting of 32 apartment units; 8 residential building lots
~` consisting of 61 future condo units; 4 mixed use lots consisting of
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commeraal retail on the 1St floor with 12 residential lofts on the 2 d floor; 9
commercial building lots, 1 school building lot, 1 civic/social hall lot, 46
~~' common lots and 5 other lots on 177.43 acres in C-N, TN-C, TN-R and R-
8 zones for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S.
. ~ Meridian Road and E. Victory Road: ~~~ ~'~ ~ X.~®~ ~ ~
~'=:?~'~ Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - October 18, 2007 Page 1 of 2
All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
h - . Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing,
please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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11. Public Hearing' PP 07-0'~ Request fo P ~liminary Plat approval of 38 ~~ ~~'b~
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<<~: ; ' `1 please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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~. E IDIAN~^' MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING
6 ,~ ~ ~ REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
City Council Chambers
33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
~..;~ Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.
Y
~ "Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn Testimony,
all presentations before the Mayor and City Council are expected
to be truthful and honest to best of the ability of the presenter.."
','
°~ 1. Roll-call Attendance:
3
~" ~ Tom O'Brien Wendy Newton-Huckabay
David Moe Steve Siddoway
~` Michael Rohm -chairman
~~
,.~ 2. Adoption of the Agenda:
~~
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3.
Consent Agenda:
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A. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2007 Planning and Zoning
~~, - Commission Meeting:
I
4.
Continued Public Hearing from October 4, 2007: AZ 07-012 Request
~ ~
;';1 for Annexation and Zoning of 258.39 acres from RUT to C-G zone for
~i Meridian Town Center by CenterCal Properties, LLC - NWC and NEC of
~..;
N. Eagle Road and E. Fairview Avenue:
'~ -'>
5. Public Hearing: RZ 07-014 Request for a Rezone of 30.08 acres from R-
~ ~ 8 to C-N (13.59 acres) and TN-C (16.49 acres) zones for Cavanaugh by
" { ~ V Kasterra Development, LLC -SEC of S. Meridian Road and E. Victory
-;~
Road:
° 1"'~ 6. Public Hearing: PP 07-015 Request for Preliminary Plat for 518 lots
consisting of 443 single-family residential building lots; 1 residential
`~'" building lot consisting of 32 apartment units; 8 residential building lots
f,~ ,' consisting of 61 future condo units; 4 mixed use lots consisting of
~`t ` commercial retail on the 1St floor with 12 residential lofts on the 2"d floor; 9
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commercial building lots, 1 school building lot, 1 civic/social hall lot, 46
~~ ~
" common lots and 5 other lots on 177.43 acres in C-N, TN-C, TN-R and R-
~ ! 8 zones for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S.
Meridian Road and E. Victory Road:
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Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - October 18, 2007 Page 1 of 2
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approval to convert the existing Caven home into acivic/social hall in an
~-~~ R-8 zone for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S.
Meridian Road and E. Victory Road:
8. Public Hearing: AZ 07-013 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 4.92
acres from Ada County RUT to an R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision by
Equity Development -1235 E. McMillan Road:
~~~ 9. Public Hearing: PP 07-017 Request for Preliminary Plat approval for 16
~`3 single-family residential lots and 3 common lots on 4.92 acres in a
proposed R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision by Equity Development -
1235 E. McMillan Road:
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zone to TN-R zone for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany
Development, Inc. -south of E. Overland Road and west of S. Eagle
Road:
11. Public Hearing: PP 07-016 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 38
single-family attached residential lots on 2.81 acres for Gramercy
Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany Development, Inc. -south of E.
Overland Road and west of S. Eagle Road:
12. Public Hearing: CUP 07-018 Request for Conditional Use Permit for 32
multi-family dwelling units on 4 lots in an existing R-15 zone on 2.93 acres
for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany Development, Inc. -
south of E. Overland Road and west of S. Eagle Road:
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - October 18, 2007 Page 2 of 2
All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing,
please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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C~i'Y't E IDIAN~- I1~ERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZQNING
1 o A ti C REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
City Council Cumbers
33 East Waho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
Thursday, Octob®r 48.2007 at 7:00 p.m.
"Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn testimony,
aN presenlatlons before the Mayor and C/t}+ Coundl are expected
to be truthful and banes! Zn best of the ability of the pre~nter.
4. Roll-calf Attendance:
Tom O'Brien Wartdy Newton-Huckabay
Davy Moe Steve Slddaway
Mtcalael Rohm -chairman
2. Adoption of lire Agenda:
3. ConserrtAggnda:
A. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2007 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting:
4. Continued Publ(c Nearing from October 4. 2007: AZ 07-042 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 258.39 acres from RtIT to C-G zone for
Metidtan Town Center by CenterCal Properties, LLC - NWC and NEC of
N. Eagle Rood and E. Fairview Av®nue:
5. Public bearing: RZ Q7.014 Regt~t far a Rezone of 30.08 acres from R
8 to GN (13.Sg acres) and Tit-C (16.49 acres} zones for Cavanaugh by
Kasterra Developmeftt, LLC -SEC of S. Meridian Road and E. Vtatory
Road:
6. Public Heating: PP 07.5115 Request for Preliminary Piat for 518 iota
wnslsdng of 443 single-famtty resldenttel building cats; 1 residential
building lot consisting of 32 apartment unfts; 8 residential building lots
consistng of 81 future condo units; 4 mixed use lots consisting of
txunrrterciai retell on tl~ 1a floor troith 12 lesidental toffs on the 2"d floor, 9
commerdal buNding late, 1 sahaol building let, 1 civfclsoclat hall tai, 4B
common bts and 5 other lots on 177.43 acres In GN, TN-C, TN-R and R-
8 zones far Cavanaugh by Kest®ra Developmetst, LLC -SEC of S.
Meridian Read and E. Victory Road:
thteridian Plan arai 2onhrg Comm~sion Meeting Agenda - O~bsr 18.2x07 Page 1 of 2
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C~iyl E IDIAN MERIDIAN Pi.ANN1NQ AND ZONING
I a A H 0 REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
City CoumN Chambers
33 East Idaho Avenuf3, Meridian, Idaho
Thursday, Orlober 18, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.
°Atfhough fhe CJty of Merldlan no langfar rarlu~as swum tesKmony,
all presantatlons before fhe Mayor and Glty Cottncll are expected
f0 ba tn~rfu/ 8nd harest t0 ba81 Of fhe ablllty ~ Li)e plaSenfal.
1. Rall-calf Att$rulancg:
Tom O'Brten d Wendy Newton-fittokabay
David AAoe ~ x- Steve Siddoway
Mtchael Rohm - chafrntan11 _L..
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A. Approve iNlnutes of October 4, 2007 Pianrting and 2:oMr~
Commission Ariseting:
4. Gor-tinued Publtc Roaring from October 4, 2007: AZ 87-072 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 268.39 acres from RtJT m C-G zone for
Meridian Town Center by CentefCal Properties, LLC - NWC and NEC of
N. Eagle Road and E. Fa~~-'~nue: /~OV l5~' irI~d ~ (3~'
5, Pubflc Hearing: RZ OT-014 Request for a Rezone of 30.08 acres from R
8 to C-N (13.69 acres) and TN-C {16.49 acres) zones for Cavanaugh by
Kastena Development, LLC -SEC of S. INaftdian Road and E Vlctary
Road: ~'ol-.~''u~ ~ ~(.totJ JSvt- S/M /.~ t 1 att!i~~
8. PubNc Hearing: PP 07-095 Request for Praltliminary Ptat for b18 tots
consisting of 443 strtglefamNy r+asidential building Sots; 1 restdentlai
building fot consistlrtg of 32 apartment units; 8 residential buUdl~ tots
conslstirtg of 61 future condo units; 4 mixed use lots wnsisttng of
comrnerclal retail on the 1"` floor with 12 rostdarrtial lofts on file 2n° floor, 9
otunnrercial building lots, 1 school building lot, 1 ctvldsof~al hail lot, 48
common lots and 6 other lots on 177.43 acres in G•N, TN-C, 7N-R and R-
8zones for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development LL -SEC of S.
Meddlan Road end E. Victory Road: ~+'~'~ -fo o/ !S-
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Ali materTsle presented et putdc meadngs shell beaWne property of the Chy of Meridlart.
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Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting October 18, 2007.
_` Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of October 18, 2007, was
called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Michael Rohm.
Members Present: Chairman Michael Rohm, Commissioner David Moe, Commissioner s
'_~' ' ~ ~ Tom O'Brien, and Commissioner Steve Siddoway.
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Others Present: Ted Baird, Nancy Radford, Caleb Hood, Scott Steckline, Bill Parsons,
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X David Moe -Vice Chairman Steve Siddoway
X Michael Rohm -Chairman
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roll call of attendance.
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~ tonight and I will start by going through the changes and the first change is Item No. 4
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s ~ on the agenda, the Meridian Town Center. That project will not be heard again tonight.
It will be continued to our regularly scheduled meeting of November 15th. So, anybody
~~ here to speak to that project tonight, it will not be heard. November 15th. The second
`~~ project that we were to hear tonight is the Cavanaugh project and it, too, will be
continued to the regularly scheduled meeting of November 15th. Boy, they are
dropping like flies out there. And the third project that we were to hear tonight, the
;,~ `~ Matador Subdivision, AZ 07-013 and PP 07-017, will not be heard tonight as well. And
it will be also continued to the regularly scheduled meeting of November 15th. So, the
~` only project that we will be hearing tonight is Gramercy Townhome Subdivision. That's
f ~ the only project we will be hearing tonight.
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anyone's here to discuss the Cavanaugh project, he is in attendance and maybe can
answer some questions, if there is anyone here that wants to talk in the back, as well as
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Rohm: Thanks, Caleb. With those changes, could I get a motion to accept the agenda
as amended?
~ ~:= Moe: So moved.
O'Brien: So moved.
Siddoway: Second.
'' Rohm: All right. We have got a couple of motions and one second. So, all those in
favor say aye. Opposed same sign?
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Rohm: The Consent Agenda. We have one item on the Consent Agenda, the approval
g: ;~ of the October 4th, 2007, Planning and Zoning Commission meeting minutes. Any
~~~- , additions or corrections?
'~ Moe: I have none.
Siddoway: I have none.
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,~,;~, aye. Opposed same sign? Motion carried.
`"``°''`' MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
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',, Item 4: Continued Public Hearing from October 4, 2007: AZ 07-012 Request
'~ for Annexation and Zoning of 258.39 acres from RUT to C-G zone for
~~~'~~~~ '~ ~' Meridian Town Center by CenterCal Properties, LLC - NWC and NEC of
N. Eagle Road and E. Fairview Avenue:
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s , ~ ~ Rohm: As a formality, we have to open each of these items to continue them and so it
~ ~ -:;;, will just take a couple minutes to get that done. So, at this time I'd like to open AZ 07-
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`/ ~ 012 for the sole purpose of continuing to the regularly scheduled meeting of November
15th, 2007.
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Rohm: It's been moved and seconded to continue Item AZ 07-012 to the regularly
E~ ' scheduled meeting of November 15th. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign?
E: Motion carried.
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MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
`~'`' Item 5: Public Hearing: RZ 07-014 Request for a Rezone of 30.08 acres from
`~ ! R-8 to C-N (13.59 acres) and TN-C (16.49 acres) zones for Cavanaugh
4 by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S. Meridian Road and E. Victory
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Item 6: Public Hearing: PP 07-015 Request for Preliminary Plat for 518 lots
consisting of 443 single-family residential building lots; 1 residential
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consisting of 61 future condo units; 4 mixed use lots consisting of
commercial retail on the 1St floor with 12 residential lofts on the 2"d floor; 9
~,<< commercial building lots, 1 school building lot, 1 civic/social hall lot, 46
common lots and 5 other lots on 177.43 acres in C-N, TN-C, TN-R and R-
8 zones for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S.
`~ _~ ~'-' j Meridian Road and E. Victory Road:
- Item 7: Public Hearing: CUP 07-017 Request for a Conditional Use Permit
approval to convert the existing Caven home into acivic/social hall in an
R-8 zone for Cavanaugh by Kastera Development, LLC -SEC of S.
Meridian Road and E. Victory Road:
~~~,;°; Rohm: At this time I'd like to open RZ 07-014, PP 07-014 and CUP 07-017, for the sole
~;~~''' purpose of continuing these items to the regularly scheduled meeting of November
15th, 2007.
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~ `~ Rohm: It's been moved and seconded to continue Items PP 07-015, CUP 07-017, and
RZ 07-014 to the regularly scheduled meeting of November 15th, 2007. All those in
favor say aye. Opposed same sign? Motion carries.
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Item 8: Public Hearing: AZ 07-013 Request for Annexation and Zoning of 4.92
acres from Ada County RUT to an R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision by
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single-family residential lots and 3 common lots on 4.92 acres in a
proposed R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision by Equity Development -
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~'~ Rohm: At this time I'd like to open AZ 07-013 and PP 07-017 for the sole purpose of
continuing these items to the regularly scheduled meeting of November 15th, 2007.
~''~ O'Brien: So moved.
Siddoway: Second.
` ~ Rohm: It's been moved and seconded to continue AZ 07-013 and PP 07-017 to the
regularly scheduled meeting of November 15th, 2007. All those in favor say aye.
Opposed same sign? Motion carries.
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Rohm: We might have a record tonight.
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:;~ Item 10: Public Hearing: RZ 07-016 Request for Rezone of 3.66 acres from R-15
~;' ;i zone to TN-R zone for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany
Development, Inc. -south of E. Overland Road and west of S. Eagle
Road:
Item 11: Public Hearing: PP 07-016 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 38
single-family attached residential lots on 2.81 acres for Gramercy
Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany Development, Inc. -south of E.
Overland Road and west of S. Eagle Road:
Item 12: Public Hearing: CUP 07-018 Request for Conditional Use Permit for 32
multi-family dwelling units on 4 lots in an existing R-15 zone on 2.93 acres
for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision by Tuscany Development, Inc. -
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w'~ O'Brien: Mr. Chairman, I have a question on the next item. On Item 10 there seems to
4:: be a discrepancy on the zone numbers on PP 07-018. I believe they have it down on
the item as PP 07-016. Is that a discrepancy? There are two different numbers.
Eighteen or sixteen. On the applicant --
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requesting rezoning of 3.66 acres from R-15 to TN-R zoning, preliminary plat for 38
residential building lots and Conditional Use Permit for multi-family developments in
existing R-15 zone on four separate lots. The applicant is proposing a unique product
::;~:T- mix for this development. The development will include 32 multi-family units proposed
~''' to be platted as condominiums in the future and 38 townhomes with alley-loaded
;; ~ garages, with the first floor work space, allowing the owners the opportunity to work
from home. The site is located approximately a quarter mile east -- or west of Eagle
Road and south of Overland Road. The property is bordered on the north by vacant
land, which is also part of this same subdivision known as Gramercy. You have EI
~':1 Dorado Business Park to the east. Mountain View High School to the west. And, then,
Thousand Springs Subdivision, zoned R-4, to the south. This property was previously
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2006. At that time as well, all of the preliminary landscaping, the amenities for the site,
and also the access to the subdivision were all approved at that time with the Gramercy
Subdivision. Here is an aerial view of the site. Again, you don't kind of see -- as I go
farther along in the presentation I'll show you which specific lots will be platted and
which ones will be subject to the multi-family development. Moving onto the site plan.
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; is generally supportive of the site layout for the proposed development. However, staff
is recommending some modifications to the site plan for compliance with the UDC.
UDC 11-3C-6 requires multi-family developments with more than one bedroom to have
two arkin s aces er dwellin unit in a covered ca ort and garage. If the multi-family
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providing a 20-by-20 pad in front of the garages of the proposed buildings. UDC 11-3C-
6 requires all single family homes to be provided with a 20-by-20 garage and a 20-by-20
~`~a parking pad. So, here, again, is the plat. It will show -- they range in size from 23 --
3,375 square feet, all the way up to over 6,100 square feet. This is the access, the
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-, private driveways. And, then, this is where the alley is and they will enter into the -- the
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', some detail on here, but this is kind of -- you can kind of see the building footprints here.
r';~ Here is the access into the development. Here is where the condos begin -- or the
multi-family developments will be and, again, as mentioned, they are slated to be
condominiumized in the future and these will be the work-live townhome units, which
~`=' are three-story buildings. These will be two-story. You can -- it's kind of hard to see,
but if I can keep this red dot still, that's where the garages will be in front of the units, the
~f ;; multi-family development units, and they do meet the requirement of two -- two carports.
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floor, too, has two stalls and that also has two stalls. UDC requires the minimum size
` standard size requirement for those as nine by 19 and the site plan submitted by the
applicant indicates those would be a nine by 17. Code does allow that to be shrunk by
two feet if -- or overhang if you add additional two feet to either the sidewalk or adjacent
landscaping, so -- provided that they have a minimum of two feet overhang for -- with
~,~ landscaping, staff can support those parking stalls. There is -- excuse me -- there is
a.. ~ only one public street serving this portion of the Gramercy development. The Meridian
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of those proposed dwellings. However, if this requirement were made now it would
~; : cause the applicant to redesign a portion of the project to accommodate an access to
. the west. Staff recommends that the Commission and Council decide where the
±- ~~ emergency access should be provided. Preferably, as I just talked about, it would --
~~'"'~~:~ ~ connection would make sense to do -- to connect to the high school on this site, but in
} ';, ; talking with the applicant and she's been working with fire, too, they have been talking
r=; ~ ~.i either in this portion of the development and -- or this portion of the development for
another access point, because right now this is the only real access road into the
. ` ~ development. So, I'll let her kind of explain what she's -- how she's been working with
~. °'~ ' fire and where they kind of decided to come up with that additional access to the
development. As stated earlier, all the landscaping -- perimeter landscaping and
~ ~; ' subdivision landscaping has been approved with the Gramercy project. The applicant is
~``'~ ! proposing to sod -- what they submitted with the application is with the townhomes they
Yti -:_>' are proposing just trees and sod at this point. Staff has kind of conditioned them to
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additional trees in that area would be nice and also provide some landscaping around
`.~` the foundations of the proposed buildings as well. So, this is the site layout for the
Brownstone project. These are the multi-family developments. It's kind of hard to see
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through the remainder of the project. Again, they do show parking islands adjacent to
~'°'~ the parking -- to the garages. Staff feels if they go with that concept they should add
additional trees -- two inch caliper trees and also provide some shrubs and ground
cover along the foundations of those proposed buildings. So, these are the two sites.
5:;;' That's the northwest, southwest, and, then, here is the southeast and -- sorry. Yes.
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the perimeter and, then, again, you have the parking islands there, which staff has also,
~°:` ~ again, stated as earlier, put in two inch caliper trees and, then, also some landscaping
around the perimeter of the buildings adjacent to the foundations. I'd like to go back up
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been approved for this site, staff is pretty supportive of all the amenities. I mean it's a
~~ ~ pretty rich amenity-filled project. This -- this portion of the project -- this is going to be a
park -- a dog park, adjacent -- it will have a water feature in it. This is also proposed to
' be a pocket park for the residents. Here you will see a trail that connects to this multi-
' `` use pathway along the canal there and it goes all the way throughout the development,
'F ~ up the western property side -- property boundary, cuts, and goes east and, then, up
north to Overland. And also this parcel two in the southwest comer here has been
donated for Kiwanis Park and that should be developed, too. Staff has asked the
` ~' applicant to kind of give us a time frame as to when these amenities will be put in and
'~° ' built, so that once this project comes in, the future residents will have some way to
' recreate within the residential development. The applicant is proposing several different
structures on the site. The Brownstone units will be attached townhomes consisting of
~" ~ four and five units. Right now these are the elevations they have submitted for the
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homes and do business and, then, these are the -- where the -- they are proposing to
s live. Pretty good size. They range -- they are approximately about 2,000 square foot of
_ living area above the first floor. They are proposing to use stucco and, again, accented
with brick and stone. Staff is pretty much -- pretty supportive of these elevations.
~~ ,:: Moving on. Here are the condominiums. This would be two different product types.
You can see there is some -- again, these will be stucco with brick or rock accents. You
- can see the two car parking in front of the units. Again, they show the trees there, one
~~~' ~~ i of the conditions that staff had placed on them. The site elevations. Again, staff is
pretty supportive of this. It looks to be durable and quality material. It should be -- the
applicant indicates they should be painted earth tone colors, too. So, real neutral
colors, try to blend into the other surrounding uses in the neighborhood. Surrounding
;. i the development I should say. Excuse me. One other thing I'd like to bring up is it
i wasn't submitted with this application, but staff is also requiring the applicant submit for
a DA modification for two purposes. The following is to, one, as we mentioned -- I'll go
,~~~'I up to this. This will be a live-work type of situation. Staff is supportive of that. We want
~~y`°' that type of development there. It's part of the -- pretty consistent with the
A' ~ -` ~ Comprehensive Plan. It's just that we want a limit to what kind of uses -- home
f f''` ~` occupational uses can occur in that -- in that lower portion, so we want them to come up
with a specific list of what are allowed uses and what are prohibited uses. And the other
-- the other provision we want in that DA modification is to hold that applicant to these
~` it applications that they submitted with this CUP and preliminary plat and rezone. That's
all staff has. Staff is recommending approval of that and I will stand for any questions
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Moe: I have none.
Siddoway: Just to clarify -- so, the outstanding issues that I picked up on were the fire
access, the parking overhang, the additional trees and foundation plantings, and the DA
modification, that language is already in your staff report as a proposed condition; right?
Parsons: Mr. Chair, Commissioners, that is correct.
Siddoway: Thank you.
Rohm: Would the applicant like to come forward, please?
McKay: Becky McKay. Engineering Solutions. 1029 North Rosario, Meridian. I had to
think about that. New address. It takes awhile. I'm representing the applicant on this
particular project. For the benefit of some of the new Commissioners, I'd just like to kind
of briefly give you just a quick overview of the Gramercy project. The project is right
there along the eastem boundary of Mountain View High School. Mountain View High
School is located here -- or on the western boundary, I'm sorry. On our -- this west.
And, then, on the eastem boundary of the subject property is EI Dorado. This is
approximately -- was 70 some acres. We came through the process with a mixed use
type project. Obviously, wanting to incorporate some commercial uses and, then, some
office uses within the interior and, then, as we went south the intensity of those uses
decreased. We showed some Brownstone with some alley-load type product. We had
some courtyard, detached single-family dwellings, and, then, we had these little areas
here that you see in gray that were blocked out for future multi-family type product. But
at the time we processed this application we didn't know what that product would look
like. It was the desire of staff and the City Council and we were in agreement that we
would come back with a Conditional Use Permit for any of the multi-family type product
in those gray blocks, including this large center piece, in order to allow the Commission
and the Council to look at that product. We wanted this to be a different type of project
and create residential uses that we haven't seen available in other projects in the
Meridian area. One of the things that -- that was discussed was the Kiwanis Park.
Kiwanis Park is a conglomeration of multiple pieces of land. There was 2.4 acres, I
think, here that came from Thousand Springs and, then, there was some that came off
of the Resolution Park Subdivision and a little bit came off of Los Alamitos and the last
piece to the puzzle was this comer of this Gramercy project. My clients donated that
two acres to the city. They worked closely with the parks department to oversee the
improvements of Kiwanis Park and they did participate financially in those
improvements in excess of 200,000 dollars. So, they also put in a pathway. The City
Council wanted to see a continuous pathway coming along the -- or that's the
Ridenbaugh Canal and, then, it would come down through the park, down the side, and,
then, we'd bring it out here. We have got acenter -- center medians. There was some
nice landscaping along there. It's kind of a parkway effect. We do have one point of
ingress and egress here with this center -- what we call the spine parkway-type collector
roadway. We connect to a stub street here in Resolution Park and, then, connect to a
stub street over here on the east boundary in EI Dorado. We have been meeting
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both entities to try to work out some of -- some of the little kinks. Since this is a unique
project and we are proposing types of residential units that really haven't been tried
before, we had some issues, the live-work issue and how do you classify that from --
from the International Fire Code and so forth. Those were things that we have been
working with the fire department on. One thing that we did agree on with the fire
department is when this commercial lot here, which I think we -- we designated as
probably most likely some type of an office use, we will have an emergency vehicle
access out of their vehicular travelway here to connect to this public street. So, that
would provide a secondary emergency vehicle access to this residential area. We have
got the Ridenbaugh Canal here that is, obviously, a natural barrier. The vehicular
crossing, bridge crossing, is to the west and, then, Mountain View High School here
and, then, EI Dorado just has the one stub street. So, in our meeting with Joe Silva he
seemed to be comfortable with an emergency vehicle access here to give -- meet his
criteria of two points of ingress and egress to the project. The application before you
does include a rezone for about 3.66 acres and that is located right here in the
midsection and that was the area that we always discussed as Brownstone-type
product. And the reason for the rezone is the R-15 zone that was given to the property
when we annexed mandates 2,400 square feet per dwelling unit, as far as the lot area
and we were at like 2,379. Very very close. And the way the units were designed, the
square footage of the units and the configuration and the fact that half of this project is
already constructed, so the street -- these streets here are in. We were kind of stuck.
So, the best solution was if we went with the TN-R, that would allow us to deviate from
the 2,400 square feet minimum lot size and that's why we have asked for that just right
in this particular area. We will have 38 Brownstones and I think Bill put the picture up
on the -- up on the screen. As you can see, they are three stories on -- the living area is
the second and third floor. As far as the uses here, we did -- we did provide some
example uses for the staff as part of our application. They asked us to get more
detailed and make -- and kind of make that list a little bit larger. Our intent is say an art
studio. An insurance agent that is just cone-man show. We -- in the CC&Rs it is our
intent to -- to restrict what type of uses would be allowed. A commercial type use, you
know, somebody that had lots and lots of -- you know, a beauty shop, for example, that
would not be an allowable use in there, just because of the intensity of it. It's alow-
keyed, office-type oriented, study-type oriented use. We are seeing them in other
states. They have been real successful and we are kind of the first one to give it a try
over here in Meridian. As you can see, the -- as far as the esthetics of the structures,
they are very beautiful. They have attached two-car garages. They have rear alley
entry. We do have a 20 by 20 parking pad in front of the two-car garage. So, as far as
the parking issues that were discussed in the staff report, that is not an issue. The other
type of product -- if Bill could switch -- there we go. These are the condominiums and
we struggled -- as I indicated before, most of the improvements, at least on this portion,
these improvements are all installed. Street, sewer, water, utilities, et cetera. In
working with the space that was allocated, that was based on input we received from
one particular architect, who doesn't work for one of our clients anymore. So, we
struggled with trying to come up with something that, obviously, we envisioned as part --
as being a benefit to the project and the picture we painted for the Commission and the
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Council and this I believe is it. This French country look, mixed in with this English kind
of cottage look, so you have got variation in styles, earth tone type colors, two-car
garages, these are two and three bedroom. Now, when we -- when we first met with the
staff, we struggled with the allocation of the parking pad in front of the structures. We e
based on the input we received initially, we were under the assumption that we did not
need the 20 by 20 pad. But staff, through further research, in looking at that UDC,
~~~~ stated, well, if you -- if it's just one building and they say were rentals, we wouldn't need
a 20 by 20 pad. But the way the UDC is written, if you do a condominium plat and you
sell these units, then, it falls under the attached single-family requiring the 20 by 20 pad.
Now, we did allocate parking. We have some guest parking in each little quadrant and
we felt that -- that what we provided was a good idea. I mean we were trying to
minimize our impervious surfaces. We have like five foot planters and I think there is
like a 12 foot planter between some of those parking areas here, versus just having one
' continuous hard surface area. So, those -- those parking areas I think as indicated in
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three wide by 18 feet deep. So, they are very close. We can -- we do have some room
",'~'~ to -- to link them in, so that they would be 20. The problem that we saw was if we do
widen them from the 16 three to the 20, it would eliminate what we -- what we liked --
°~ the decorative planters that we incorporated into the project, which break up that hard
` surface area. So, I guess from a planning perspective, you know, where a unit is rented
or a unit is owned, why is -- why is the 20-20 applied only if it's owned? I mean,
typically, you drive the same number of cars, you have the same bedrooms --
everything else remains that same. So, in our -- if you looked at response to the staff
conditions of approval, we did put in there that we would like the Commission to,
obviously, take a look at that and weigh is -- is that critical, that 20 by 20 pad in front of
each unit? And I did go out and I measured my cars, because I was just curious, you
know. The area that we have allocated is that, you know, enough. Well, a Yukon is
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I will address the conditions that we did identify. As far as the miscellaneous application
to amend the development agreement, we just offered up a recommendation. The staff
wants us to do a modification. We do not object. We will go ahead and get that
'~~~ prepared and submitted, so that it does accompany this application to the City Council.
I believe staff asked me to address the 1.2.4, the 80 square feet of private usable open
`"' space for each unit, such as a patio, balcony, or deck. We will comply .with that. These
``>a? units have been designed to -- to meet that standard. Item 1.2.10 is the 20 by 20 pad.
Basically, the condition states if these -- if these multi-family attached type units are to
~~ be platted as condominiums in the future, a 20 by 20 pad in front of the garage would be
mandated. So, we -- we do object to that condition. I guess we -- we are trying to think
outside the box here. A lot of times the ordinances don't allow us, they put us back in
`~' the box, and so I don't -- I don't know what the solution is. I have read through that
parking section multiple times. There is discussion of alternative compliance through
- the director, where the director evaluates your parking, are you providing adequate
~''~ parking, is that an option? I'm not sure as far as how the staffs been applying that. I
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haven't had to deal with that as far as parking is concerned. In 3.11, as far as the R-2
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'` classified for a commercial as far as -- under the International Fire Code? Residential?
We just want to make sure that -- that in addition to that statement that -- that there is
some added wordage, that, obviously, work with the fire department to determine
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mentioned was the secondary access. It was in 3.23 under the fire department and I
believe 4.2 under the police department. We have been working -- the same applicants
~ ~'~'"~ ~ have been working with the Meridian School District for about the past six months and
~; ;~ their -- their attorney to dedicate a public right-o- way out of the west side of Mountain
View High School and construct a new public street outlet to Linder from Mountain View
High School. My firm did the construction plans. We obtained from Ada County
~' `: Highway District, the city staff, and that street is now under construction. So, I believe
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~~• what that right-of--way will look like coming out of Mountain View High School. So, we --
we have connected to Mountain View's high school site and, then, we are coming into
the site and extending a driveway to interconnect with their existing parking area and so
this will help to alleviate some of the traffic congestion due to the one point of ingress
and egress out of Mountain View High School.
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entirety, it was discussed as far as where should an appropriate outlet be, based on the
existing improvements at Mountain View High School and based on what the applicants
were proposing. This was determined to be the best option. Obviously, you wouldn't
want to bring high school drivers into this residential area here. I think that's already
been tried to the southwest of Mountain View High School and there is -- have been
quite a few complaints and I think barriers were up. So, we have worked diligently to
solve that problem and at substantial expense. So, I ask that you, please, remove 3.23
and 4.2. Now, 3.24, the fire department requested additional parking be provided for
the multi-family. I'm not quite sure where that came from. Obviously, if we meet the
requirements of the UDC and staff is satisfied with the parking that we have allocated, I
don't think that that is applicable. I mean I just think that's kind of overstepping the
bounds there. Concerning a question under the police department 4.1, I think they were
concerned that we have more than four units sharing a common entrance, such as a
stairwell. We had some concems about public safety. We do not have any four units
sharing common entrances, so that is not applicable. Do you have any questions?
Rohm: Mrs. McKay, can we go back to the parking pads, the 20 by 20 for a moment?
And staff had recommended that you make that change. Have you taken a look at the
layout to see if there is a way at all possible that the pads could be accommodated?
McKay: Yes, I have.
Rohm: And --
McKay: In some of these -- in some of the areas we can accommodate the 20 by 20
pad. For example, this -- let me get my bearings. The northwest quadrant here. This is
one of those areas that I told you there is the 16.3 width and, then, the 18 depth. As
you can see, the rear yards have 20 feet setback there, which is, obviously, in excess of
what is required. So, there we could stretch those out, but it does just add additional
hard surface area. As far as the width, I have some concems -- I guess it would all
depend on how staff applies the setbacks. We tried to -- from the public street we have
got like a 19 and a 21 foot setback, so we didn't want those -- those units right close up
against that public street. We have some -- a little bit to spare through there. It would
most likely mean the elimination of the landscape areas between the parking. So, if you
can -- that's the problem with these small site plans. I got to get up close so you can
kind of see them. If you look at that you can see that -- that there are landscaped areas
in between each parking area. So, we didn't have one continuous hard surface area in
front of those units. It breaks it up. So, if you can kind of envision you have got a 20
foot drive aisle, which is -- it was the width that we need and, then, we have got 16 three
in width and, then, 18 feet in length. Then, we have two parking spaces at the end of
those two buildings to add additional parking. I guess if somebody had a Suburban that
was longer than the 18, then, they could -- and it was a guest, they could park down
there. The area that we struggled the most with was the southwest comer, which is
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~`:'. drive aisle to accommodate guest parking and, then, we designed it so there was no
parking in front of the garages. There is only five feet in front of the garage and, then, a
20 foot drive aisle and it was a similar design we used at Crossfield Subdivision in the
alley load product. It's kind of the rule of thumb if you keep that dimension five feet,
then, it's very obvious and visible that there is no room there to park. I have seen units
that are built like that in Hawaii. I stayed in one for like a week and they provided -- they
had a little parking lot at the end of the buildings for guests and they had -- these
particular units had aone-car garage and, then, they just had five feet in front of the --
~~ the garage. So, I guess we are trying to be creative. We are trying to think outside the
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_ but, obviously, they are governed by the UDC and so I'm not sure how to grapple with
that. I don't know if they have had any brainstorming or not. But I do find that it's so
peculiar that if -- if we don't do a condominium plat that's not an issue. It's anon-issue,
_{ so -- but if -- Joe, you want to address that? He's an architect, so maybe he can explain
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really, I think at the root of this question for the parking pads is whether these units are
<' ' classified multi-family or single family attached. And as I look at the definitions in the
- UDC, amulti-family dwelling is a structure or portion therefore that contains three or
more dwelling units or apartments where all such units are located on the same
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r, family and the definition. The difference, though, is with your units you're not just two
attached, you're three or more, therefore, you fall into the townhome definition and a
townhouse, by definition, is one structure, three or more properties, and three or more
dwelling units. By definition, then, when you look up property -- you have to go to
property and it's a lot or parcel. If you go to parcel, a parcel is a tract of land held in
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transfer of ownership and development. So, technically, once you condo those units,
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they are -- a unit and a lot are synonymous. So, you have -- by our definition that's how
~` ~ we define the property. So, it's a unit and a lot are synonymous, so, therefore, that
becomes asingle-family dwelling. That's why we put in there that if you're going to
~> ~ condo these, that's fine, but we are going to be looking for these certain things that
"'~~~ relate to single-family or townhouses in this case, so -- and a lot of it, too -- a lot of our
k~ analysis wasn't necessarily based on -- and I will go back to Becky's question earlier. It
k; =~ does seem like we treat multi-family different than single-family. I mean the unit's still
the same, regardless of ownership, if it's a renter or someone owns it, it's still the same.
Our parking requirements should be the same. The difference is that the multi-family
`~' parking standards were meant more for complexes where you have two or three
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hundred units and the chances of everyone being home at the same time all the
~~~ `~ and fighting for those -- those parking stalls is not -- you're usually able to find
'~~ something, because someone's working graveyard and you can park there and, then,
you go to work and someone takes your spot -- you don't really have those assigned
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for multi-family is there is more parking to choose from than just eight or, you know, a
smaller group of multi-family. I think that's one of the questions that were asked. Also, I
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same comment and their concerns are -- the depth of that, they are pretty concerned
>- ~ about, because there is only 20 feet wide of a drive aisle that are coming into those -- to
the garages and they are afraid of overhanging vehicles. Now, 16, 17, they are close,
~: ~ but most people don't pull right up to their garage door, they leave a space that they can
walk in front of, so it's a foot or two, usually, and now you're driving the Yukon, so it
pushes back. So, they are a foot or two into their 20 foot fire lane and that's what their
G -'~'~ concem is. There are no real good spots to park. So, I think you're right, I mean guest
parking is another concem that we have, just because there isn't a lot of on-site parking
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. adequately if people are fighting for on site, on street parking, and it's approved as is.
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trying to help answer the question of the applicant, where do we go for relief? It seems
to me if they are -- if we are applying code requirements, it requires a certain dimension,
I think a variance request would be how they would approach that in front of the City
Council.
Hood: Mr. Chair, Mr. Baird, typically, we try to reserve variances for some hardship on
a property. In this case I mean they could -- I'm not saying that's what they need to do,
` but there are other ways around. You lose a unit off of each comer, you redesign some
things, you can make it work without going through the variance process. The variance,
to just kind of -- you know, if there is no -- if you have exhausted all other scenarios and
-- or there is some natural feature that bisects your property, I'd say, yeah, a variance.
Here Idon't -- I don't know that we can make the findings for a variance. We could just
` ~ as easily say -- make less units. The parking problem goes away and you can have a
development with less units, but be similar size, so -- I mean we would accept an
application, probably, if they filed one, it would just -- I don't know that staff could really
support it.
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McKay: Other than -- as far as condominiums, you know, the state law -- they -- it
dictates how those are handled and it is an airspace. It's not a physical lot, it is a unit.
So, they are treated -- they are treated differently.
Rohm: As Caleb was giving his assessment after hearing yours, I was trying to think in
terms of like multi-story units that would be condominiumized and I can't envision us
requiring an additional 20 by 20 for each unit as it's stacked up and so it's -- I'm kind of
tom on this issue as well. I can certainly see staffs position that an additional parking
pad out in front of each unit would be certainly desirous, but I can also see your position
that --that it's not the same as asingle-family attached and so I'm kind of stnuggling with
that a bit myself.
McKay: Thank you, Commissioner Rohm. We are kind of the same opinion. I don't
think the people that buy these are traditional detached single-family people, they want
to live someplace where they can walk to the park, they can walk and shop, that's why
it's called, you know, a mixed use, live-work type complex.
Rohm: Thank you, Becky. At this time I'd like to see if there is anyone else that would
like to testify to this application. Okay. I suspected not. And seeing none, I guess if --
do any of the Commissioners have any additional questions of either the applicant or
staff before we close the Public Hearing?
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O'Brien: I have a question, Mr. Chairman. And I'm not sure who is the right person to
ask this to. Along that roadway access from the high school and in the commercial
,:~! areas that I pointed out, are there going to be anticipation for fast food restaurants and
all the things like this that the high school students are more apt to use or are they
restricted, because I anticipate if that's the case, there is going to be quite a traffic
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McKay: Commissioner O'Brien, in the residential area they would not be providing even
in the live-work any type of uses that would go along hand-in-hand with Mountain View
High School. As far as the commercial area a is that what you're --
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,~~ McKay: Yes. Up in the commercial area. I think the bank -- a bank is going in there.
There could be some restaurants. Intermountain Orthopedic, YMCA, are going to go
into that facility. They do have a connection through Galla Street -- do you see Galla
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McKay: Galla goes through and, then, interconnects over to the spine collector
roadway at the signalized intersection at Overland. So, the students can come -- they
don't have to go out to Overland and, then, come in through our primary entrance you
see there as Wells Avenue, they would come in via Galla. They would also be able to
come in via Galla, go down Wells and out Blue Horizon to go over to EI Dorado. So, we
do have interconnectivity of those commercial uses, if that is one of your concerns.
O'Brien: Yeah. That's good. Thank you for explaining that. Appreciate it.
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Parsons: When we met at the agency's comment meeting, they had indicated that they
could -- they could be happy with that -- with something up through there on the eastern
portion of it for the access point.
Moe: I guess just for curiosity, were they hoping the district was going to give up land to
put something where the high school is or something? Another roadway?
Parsons: I will defer that to Caleb. He knows the history.
Siddoway: Caleb, as you speak, is there a stub location from the high school?
Hood: No.
McKay: No.
Hood: But the high school wouldn't have to do much, because the parking lot is directly
adjacent to -- if you look at the -- it's not that the building backs up, it would just be
stubbing right into their driveway. I mean that's parking all the way up to the subject
site. Now, there is a ten foot wide pathway that kind of separates the two, so you would
be crossing amulti-use pathway, but there is room to get -- right kind of as you can see
where the ball fields and grass ends, right where the parking lot area ends, that's the tip
of the comer we are talking about. There are eight multi-family dwelling units proposed
right there on this side of that parking lot. So, you know, they would lose a -- you know,
a couple parking stalls, but it really wouldn't be any major improvements that would
have to occur for that access to happen.
Rohm: But, then, again, the school district didn't come to the city and offer it up either.
McKay: No.
Hood: That's correct.
Rohm: Yeah.
Moe: Okay.
Rohm: Thanks.
Moe: Thank you.
Siddoway: Mr. Chairman and Caleb or Bill, on the police department comment 4.1 that
talks about multi-family dwellings show more than four units that share a common
entrance, we just heard testimony that there are no such instances. Can you confirm
that from staffs perspective that there are no multi-family dwellings with more than four
units on a common entrance?
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Parsons: Mr. Chair, Commissioner Siddoway, if you look at the elevations the
applicant's provided here, you can see that their entrances to the units here and also
from the side here, so you can tell that they aren't sharing any entrances there.
Siddoway: I wonder there are -- are they talking about the fact that there -- the entrance
into the driveway has four on the north and four on the south or -- I'm just trying to
understand what the concem was.
Hood: Mr. Chair, Commissioner Siddoway, that's the only thing I can think of their
comment is related, because, yeah, there is -- there are dual -- there are two folks that
share entrances on the Brownstones, but that's the most that share an entrance as far
as a pedestrian entrance into a unit or two. There are I think up to ten, maybe, on one
of the blocks. I think there is a five and a five in one of the blocks. So, there would be
ten sharing a driveway in that, but that's a driveway, not a -- not an entrance. Usually
they say that comment for entrances -- walking entrances.
Siddoway: The comment as written says that the applicant should meet with the police
chief prior to the next hearing to address these concems. I imagine if we -- if it's just as
-- as stated, with the note that, you know, we don't see where four -- more than four
units share a common interest or stairwell, but ask the applicant to meet with the police
chief and address that concem prior to the next hearing, do you think that would be
acceptable?
Hood: Yeah. And that -- I would have hoped they could have had that meeting already.
I don't know if the applicant knew that that was a condition in there or not, but, yeah, I
think if -- it should be able to be worked by Council and if, by chance, no one's able to
touch base in the next three or four weeks, there is -- nine times out of ten someone
from the police department is here. So, I think that will work fine. I'll just let you know
that the main comments that we did get from police and fire -- I mean there are several
conditions in there, but their main concems were lack of parking and Idon't -- they really
don't have in their standard conditions any way to say we are concemed that you're not
providing enough on-site parking. And Becky mentioned, you know, maybe they are
overstepping their bounds, but that's what they were telling us and when you look at it
we are, too, concemed about parking for -- for the future residents here and visitors
and, you know, these streets do allow on-street parking, so, you know, I don't know that
it's a huge concem, but it's limited, especially around curves where most of these are --
you're not going to be able to get a whole bunch of on-street parking, so that's primarily
what I recall from our comments meeting was they are concemed about the number of
units that are taking access and, then, not having anywhere for people to park when
they are either living or visiting there, so --
Siddoway: And which number was the comment that was overstepping its bounds
again, please? Or that the applicant suggested might be? 3.24? Thank you. All right.
Mr. Chairman, I move we close the Public Hearing.
Moe: Second.
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Rohm: It's been moved and seconded to close the Public Hearing on RZ 07-016, PP
07-018 and CUP 07-018. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign? Motion
carved.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Rohm: Discussion? Commissioner Moe, do you have a couple comments on this
application?
Moe: Nice product. I think the only thing that I am a little bit bothered by -- and, then,
I'm not sure I have the answer either and that would be the 20 by 20 pads at the front
there. My biggest concem -- your standard parking stall per se would be a 9 by 20, you
know, and basically as far as codewise I think that's what that is. So, we are -- we have
got the problem both ways and both directions and that.. There is a very good comment
that was made that the fire department's got a concem that vehicles will be out in the 20
foot right of way. That concerns me as well, going into those. So, I'm kind of interested
to see what the other commissioners think about that, but other than that it's a very nice
project.
O'Brien: Mr. Chairman, I think it is also a very good project. I think the intent of
everything -- especially the park -- the park's idea. Again, I'm tom back to the parking or
the stalls pad size. I'm really one that -- you need to have some good space for a
vehicle. To give you an example, if I go over to my daughter's house -- and I have a
pickup truck with an extended cab and I'm three feet away from the garage door and my
tailgate or my hitch is sticking out over the sidewalk and they are in an approved
subdivision and I think the same goes with this particular project. I think you're going to
have more problems than not due to the fact that 75 percent or more of the vehicles
sold in Idaho are trucks and they are long, most of them. Most of the percentage
anyway. And I just have a problem with trying to squeeze too much in too little space
and I'm inclined to say, you know, drop one of the condos off the end or whatever --
townhouses off the end and make it right. So, I'm -- that's the only concern I have with
that project. That's all.
Rohm: Commissioner Siddoway.
Siddoway: Let's see. On the 80 square feet of private usable open space, we heard
testimony that it was -- that that is accommodated, so I think that's good. On the 20 by
20 pads it's tough. I could see both sides on that one, too. But my inclination is to
support the staff interpretation of that -- of that code and leave the requirement as
stated. On 3.11, the classification, Idon't have a problem with adding the words to work
with the fire department on determining the classification of the structure. Regarding
the 3.23 and 4.2 with regards to secondary access, I would be in favor of just striking
the last phrase with preferred connection to Mountain View High School and just leave
in place the requirement for secondary access to and from the site.
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Moe: Yeah. I would agree. I would be okay with that.
Siddoway: On 4.1 with the more than four units, I think we just let that one stand, but
note in our motion that they need to meet with the police chief before the City Council
hearing and resolve that issue and --
"~,'' Moe: That's as it's stated in the report.
Siddoway: Yeah. So, just leave it in there. 3.24, I could be fine with striking that. I
mean it's -- it's a request, it's not a condition, but, yet, it's confusing, because it's stated
with the conditions of approval, so unless someone feels inclined to require additional
parking beyond what's there, Ithink -- I think we could strike that one.
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the additional trees and foundation plantings. Did we -- did we get any specific
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;,~:j Moe: That's correct. They had no problem with it.
;, ,; Siddoway: And we also heard clarification that the -- the question of how a two foot
I overhang is accommodated as well; is that correct? On the stalls that were only 17 feet
deep.
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Moe: Sounds like you're ready.
Siddoway: Any more discussion?
Rohm: Well, I -- you know, as far as the 20 by 20 pad, I'm not sure that I'm in
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without losing units, it would be appreciated. I don't know how you can put that in a
motion, but in the north -- in the -- well, it was the northwest comer, I believe they
t, .'; commented that the pads could be placed in that grouping in the southwest comer, it
`; just wouldn't work at all and I think that maybe if they could condominiumize the
3 ~ northwest comer, then, the pads are there and the southwest comer, they are going to
remain apartment complex and I don't how you put that into your motion, but that seems
like that's kind of a mix between stafFs recommendation and the developer's proposal,
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Moe: However, in the application they aren't going one way or the other on the
condominiums, they are stating that they are going to be condominiums, so, therefore,
`` we are ruling tonight based upon them being a condominium, so, therefore, we need to
review staff for that purpose.
Rohm: I don't think so. I don't think that the application --
'f Moe: Right, basically, within the summary it's noted as such.
Rohm: That they intend to condominiumize them, but they are not constructed as
condominiums initially, they are not -- but, I don't know, you --
``` Moe: I'm just going by, you know, it's a CUP for multi-family units and in parenthesis
they have got future condominiums.
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,.~ Siddoway: Sure. One second. Mr. Chairman --
Rohm: Before you start, can I just make one last comment on it -- on this? Is in your
,~ motion you might say that if you're to condominiumize these -- a specific block of units,
''r`~`,'' they must meet the single family standards that include the 20 by 20 pad. Can you do
that? And, then, that would be stipulated that anything that they move to that
designation would meet that and anything that doesn't remain an apartment and that's
just a -- maybe more of a question than an answer.
O'Brien: Would that be taking away the potential buyers of a unit, though, d you
stipulate that these are only apartments and a person couldn't buy it as a condominium?
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Siddoway: Kind of give them the choice.
Rohm: Ithink that --Ithink that that's what the staff want is if, in fact, you're going to
'' condominiumize these units, then, you have to have a 20 by 20 pad. But if you're not,
then, it doesn't require it. So, my only -- and I'm not saying that that's the right answer,
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I'm just saying that that is an answer that seems to put it back on the applicant's
shoulders to -- if, in fact, they intend to, then, they have to adhere to UDC based upon
single-family -- Mr. Baird, I see you down there -- I know you have some thoughts on
this.
Baird: My thought is that Mr. Siddoway is ready to make his motion and in -- that's sort
`~' of a joking way of saying I think you have to take the application as it's presented and
the way it's presented is they intend to make them condominiums and unlike some
politicians who use the intent in a flexible way, I think we have to take them at their
`~ word, that this -- these are intended to be condominiums and your ruling should treat it
as such.
'~~"~ Rohm: Fair enough. Thank you. Appreciate your comments. Mr. Siddoway, you're on.
~`~ Siddoway: Mr. Chair, after considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move
" to recommend approval to the City Council of file numbers RZ 07-016, CUP 07-018,
and PP 07-018, as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of October 18th,
'~ ~ 2007, with the following modifications: First, for clarification, it is under the assumption
~~' `~ that these are to be condominiumized units. I would note that item 1.2.4 the 80 square
~ ~'~ feet of private usable open space is to be accommodated in the project as stated by the
applicant. For 1.2.10, the 20 by 20 pads will be required for the condominiumized units.
v,; ~-: That 3.11 we add a note that the applicant work with the fire department in determining
`' the classification of the units. For conditions 3.23 and condition 4.2, that -- I don't have
the language in front of me anymore. It's changed. That the phrase that states that the
~~:`_~, preferred location of that connection as to Mountain View High School be struck and the
remainder of that sentence say that it requires a secondary access. Item 4.1 will remain
~ x as stated in the staff -- in the staff report, with direction to the applicant to meet with the
4 police department prior to the hearing with City Council to resolve any outstanding
issues on that item. And, then, with 3.24 regarding additional parking spaces being
~ -- requested, to strike that condition. I would note within my motion, just for the record,
that the 17 foot parking stalls are to meet the two foot overhang standards. That the
'' ,," additional trees and foundation plantings shall be required per the staff report, as will be
F?' '"~ the proposed development agreement modifications. End of motion.
q~ ~x5~ Moe: Second.
Rohm: It's been moved and seconded to forward onto City Council recommending
approval of RZ 07-016, PP 07-018, and CUP 07-018. All those in favor --
recommending approval. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign? Motion
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Rohm: Thank you, folks.
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Item 13: Presentation: Landscaping Requirements of the UDC presented by
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Hood: Mr. Chair, would you like me to take the last item off the agenda and --
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~ ' Hood: -- take care of that one tonight? So, a couple months ago there was some
`~ questions from Commission about some of the landscaping standards and it seemed
;'~ like some of you at least could benefit from just a quick refresher or if this may be new
to some of you, just of what the UDC required landscaping -- what the UDC landscaping
requirements are. So, I put together just a quick little packet. Some of it has stuff
'}`~ ~~ directly copied out of the UDC. I have also got some verbiage that I will refer to that's
~~ ~ from the UDC, although it's not specifically cited, so -- the main things that I'm bringing
t ='^~'~ before you tonight are the street landscape buffer widths and their construction, land
~. use buffer widths, when they are required, and their construction. And, then, alternative
compliance and when that's eligible and kind of what staffs looking for for alternative
_.'~ ~ compliance. So, I'll try to keep this brief. The --our landscaping requirements are really
broken up into three different sections, residential, commercial, and industrial and I'm
~ ;f,~ going to start with the residential first. In all residential districts there is a requirement
fora 25 foot wide landscape buffer along arterials, a 20 foot wide landscape buffer
along collectors, a 35 foot wide landscape buffer along entryway corridors, and a 50 foot
's'~' wide landscape buffer along the interstate. Also of note in there is although they are
' ~ interstates, Eagle, Chinden, and Meridian, south of Franklin, are designated entryway
'~~~ corridors and do have a 35 foot wide landscape buffer requirement. In residential
`°' I districts the UDC does require that these landscape buffers be placed in common lots
and not in easements. So, that is a big difference from commercial or industrial projects
~ ;_~ that do need to be put in common lots owned and maintained by the HOA. I have a
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<~ Siddoway: Just for quick clarification, that requirement for the common lots is just for
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sheet, it's got 11.2B.3 at the top, those are our standards. I have highlighted some of
,` them. The street landscape buffers and, again, they are real similar to the residential
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`! we do require a ten foot wide landscape buffer. Local streets in residential districts,
°~: ~~ there is no street landscape buffer requirement.
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O'Brien: Caleb?
Hood: Yeah.
O'Brien: Excuse me. What happens when we annex property on a roadway that
doesn't have those requirements currently established? Are they required to change it,
then?
Hood: Correct. Yeah. There are a couple of mechanisms, depending upon what we
are annexing. I mean if we are annexing farm ground and they are doing a subdivision,
we would require them to set aside the appropriate right-of-way and, then, construct the
landscape buffer -- the appropriate landscape buffer width on their property.
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':' situation, but along South Locust Grove Road above Amity -- or south of Amity there is
~:~ a lot of homes in that area that already are up against the roadway and the annex -- or
the city of impact is getting close to that already, if it hasn't already impacted it. What do
~_, ~ they do about those homes?
' Hood: You will see -- and this is the last part of my presentation. We do have an
`~;~~ altemative compliance section that talks about just things like that. If you can't comply
with these dimensions, there is a mechanism that says, okay, we recognize that you
~ ~;~~ can't move your house ten feet back nor should you move your house ten feet back, but
~`''~~ I you can provide landscaping and provide it there, provide a little bit more dense
landscaping in the areas you can provide them. So, it's not the variance process, it's
~' '` ~ more done -- it's one at the staff level and staff can evaluate the merits of those projects
~I and we recognize that there are situations where this can't be administered to the letter
~~ ' of the law a hundred times out of a hundred. So, we do work with them, but that's the
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t~;:"~';"`' Hood: So, then, the commercial land use buffers to residential uses are required there,
`; ; ; so -- and they vary from zone to zone. You have got the four commercial districts, L-O,
~ which is our office designation primarily. There is a 20 foot buffer required to residential
uses. The C-G and the C-C you have a 25 foot wide buffer requirement and, then, the
C-N has a 20 foot wide buffer on those sides of their property. So, it's not on the
~ residential side, they have to put it on their lot and construct. And, then, other things
' with the commercial landscaping requirements, they can be located in a lot or within an
"`" easement. So, it's at their -- if it's easier for them for maintenance purposes to just have
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that. If they just want to have an easement across that buildable lot, they can do it that
~~~~:t way, too. But the important thing is that width of the landscape buffer is maintained in
the commercial districts. I have also talked just real quickly about the -- we do require a
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five foot wide landscape strip adjacent to all vehicular use areas. So, you can't just
pave your entire site, you at least have to have a five foot strip going along all sides of
vehicle use areas, parking, drive aisles, loading areas, all would require this five foot
wide strip next to your partner -- or your neighbor. The only time where that wouldn't be
';,~ required is if you're sharing a driveway, so you're allowing them access to your
pavement, then, that, obviously, doesn't need to be landscaped, so you can have cuts in
those if there is cross-access. Within that five foot strip are trees and vegetative ground
cover. We also do require planter islands at the ends of all parking rows, as well as
interior to those parking rows if they exceed 12. So, any group of 13 or more you would
have planters on the ends, as well as one in the middle somewhere. So, that's the
commercial. Industrial, again, the street landscape buffers are exactly the same as far
as local collector, arterial, entryway corridor and interstate, to the other ones. The big
~~'`~~ difference here is your landscape buffer to nonindustrial uses -- so that doesn't mean if
it's just residential, if it's industrial next to commercial, this buffer would still be required.
And although right now we don't have anything zoned heavy industrial, which is the I-8
zonin designation, a 40 foot wide landscape buffer is required from their property to
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'' ! again, we don't have anything zoned that right now, but that's the established buffer
widths.
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Hood: Yeah.
O'Brien: So, you're saying that's 20 feet on each piece of property, 20 feet on one, to a
40 foot total?
!4'~ Hood: It's all on the subject property. So, if you're zoned industrial and I'm zoned
anything else, it's all on your property and it's -- unless you work with me and can
provide it and I agree that you can use ten or 15 or 20 feet of my property. The onus is
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one that I mentioned, the next biggest one is the industrial exclusion for your parking lot
~_ ~ ~,~ landscaping adjacent to loading areas. We do not require the end cap parking
landscape islands if it's adjacent to parking in industrially zoned areas. So, we still
require the internal parking to be no more than 12 in a row without the parking islands,
but on the ends, if you have got a loading bay, we don't want semis to be hitting the
trees and breaking curbs and things. So, we let you off the hook on that. Other than
;,~ that, the standards are pretty much the same as far as parking lot and street
`''' landscaping between commercial and industrial. So, let me jump back to the street
buffers and get into what's required in those street buffers. And this doesn't matter if it's
=> a collector, arterial, entryway corridor, or interstate, all these standards are going to be
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breaks, so you can still see through some of the landscaping at certain intervals
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?, ~ then, the developer puts their fence right at the street side and so it screens off all that
beautiful landscaping they just put in and all you're looking at is a six foot fence as you
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f berms can be incorporated and are encouraged within these land use buffers. So,
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O'Brien: So, Caleb, what determines -- it's come up from time to time about trees, size
and growth to maturity and is there anything there that stipulates not only the type, but
. how long it takes to get to maturity, et cetera? Is that something you stipulate in a
motion or something or in the staff report or what? How is that determined?
Hood: Mr. Chair, Commissioner O'Brien, we don't as staff require them to tell us how
long a tree would mature. There are going to be several factors that will determine
when your average tree would grow to its maturity. I mean based on species certain
~'' trees will grow faster or slower than others. Weather, the amount of rain or precipitation
that's given and tender loving care that it's given -- what we do require them to do,
though, is on those landscape plans we require them to show the canopy width of that
tree at full maturity and we don't say -- you know, we don't ask them is that ten years or
20 years until it gets to be that big, it's something we could ask for. I'm not a landscape
architect, so I don't know those things, but I'm sure they have their resources to get us
that information if need be. We could, if the Commission's concerned, too, about it
being ten or 15 or 20 years until you have an effective barrier, we could at these
hearings say plant trees that are going to mature faster and, thus, provide that barrier in
a quicker time than some other slow-growing trees.
O'Brien: I think that sometimes they stipulate, you know, as a sound buffer for instance,
that they don't -- they want to try to buff noises from a particular like parking complex
versus residential, like we had the last time --
Hood: Uh-huh.
O'Brien: -- it would take a long time for those trees to reach that particular maturity to be
able to perform their function and that is to keep down the noise. It just seems like it's --
20 years is a long time for someone to put up something.
Hood: Yeah.
Siddoway: On the flip side, if I could just interject --
Hood: Sure.
Siddoway: -- the problem with trying to require the fast growing trees is they are often
the most weak and they really break off a lot. So, I don't know that we want to -- we
have certain trees that are prohibited from required landscape buffers because of, you
know, problematic features and those are spelled out in -- they are referred to in the
ordinance and in the tree planting guide the city has adopted. But I don't think we want
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to look at additional means of screening that noise, whether there are sound walls or
something like that.
O'Brien: That's why I asked the question. It just seemed like it was difficult to do.
Siddoway: Yeah.
Hood: And my preferred -- just what I like to look for when there is something where
you're looking for a somewhat effective barrier almost immediately is requiring a bigger
caliper inch to start with and mixing in some evergreen trees. So, you know, if you have
-- you know, that would give you some at least to six, seven, eight feet right away you're
not seeing through those and if you can mix those in with some deciduous trees at three
inch caliper for most of the year that's going to provide you a pretty good screen,
although it's not -- they aren't going to be touching, it will still give you a pretty good
buffer and if you can place those correctly, you know, between windows or where there
are openings, you can accomplish still a pretty good screen material, so --
O'Brien: Thank you.
Hood: Then, finally, altemative compliance. And I did copy -- it was just easier for me
to copy the last three pages are the altemative compliance sections. I'll note that the
altemative compliance isn't only for landscaping, there are several things that are listed
on the first page that you can ask for altemative compliance for. Any standard -- and
that's what I have highlighted. Any standard in the landscape ordinance, anything in 11-
36 is eligible for altemative compliance. Now, there are some -- some conditions that
need to exist for us to approve it and findings that must be made, but, basically, any
landscape requirement can be applied for and altemative compliance granted, so -- and
that's done administratively. Oftentimes we try to have that done and, then, if there is a
CUP or something else that's tagging along with it, we can have -- you know, staff can
be overruled by the Commission if you think that caliper inches need to be more than
three or whatever. So, it's not -- we are not the final decision-making body, but we are
the final decision-making body if we are not -- it's not appealed to you or there is not
another application that's tagging along, so -- anyways, that's just a quick overview.
Hopefully, you know, this is helpful to you on altemative compliance and you can kind of
see what buffer widths are required where and some of the materials. There is a ton
more information, but I thought this is a pretty good starting point, anyways, and, again,
I don't remember where -- where the concern originally originated from. Maybe it was
even Commissioner Newton-Huckabay, I don't know. But I do remember you guys
wanted some -- some more information on landscaping, so I hope that helped.
O'Brien: Thank you.
Rohm: Caleb, thank you.
Moe: Mr. Chairman, I move we adjourn.
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING October 18, 2007
APPLICANT ITEM NO. 3'A
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CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
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APPLICANT CenterCal Properties, LLC ITEM NO. 4
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from 10/4107- Annexation and Zoning of 258.39
acres from RUT to C-G zone for Meridian Town Center - NWC 8~ NEC of N. Eagle Road
AGENCY COMMENTS
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ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
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APPLICANT Kastera Development, LLC ITEM NO. 5
REQUEST Public Hearing -Rezone of 30.08 acres from R-8 to C-N (13.59 acres) and
TN-C (16.49 acres) zones for Cavanaugh -SEC of S. Meridian Road & E. Victory Road
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
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CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
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CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING October 18, 2007
APPLICANT Kastera Development, LLC ITEM NO. 6
REQUEST Public Hearing-PP for 518 lots consisting of 443 single-family residential bldg lots; l r~IdenHal bldg lot consisting of 32 apart-
ment units; 8 residential bldg lots consisting of 61 future condo units; 4 mbced use tots consisting of commercial retaU on the 1st floor vrl 7 2 resi-
dential lofts on the 2nd floor, 9 commercial bldg lots,1 school bldg lot,1 civic /social halt lot, 46 twmmon lots & 5 other lots on 1 TI.43 acres In C-N
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AGENCY
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CUP 07-017
APPLICANT Kclstera Development, LLC ITEM NO. 7
REQUEST Public Hearing -Conditional Use Permit approval to convert the existing Caven home
into acivic /social hall in an R-8 zone for Cavanaugh -SEC of S. Meridian Rd 8~ E. Victory Rd
AGENCY
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CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY EIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
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CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
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SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING October 18, 2007
APPLICANT Equity Development ITEM NO. 8
REQUEST` Public Hearing -Annexation and Zoning of 4.92 acres from RUT to an R-4 zone
for Matador Subdivision - 1235 E. McMillan
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY QUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
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COMMENTS
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING
October 18, 2007
PP 07-017
APPLICANT Equity Development ITEM NO. 9
REQUEST Public Hearing -Preliminary Plat approval for l bsingle-family residential lots &
3 common lots on 4.92 acres in a proposed R-4 zone for Matador Subdivision -
1235 E. McMillan Road
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDItyG DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING MEETING October 18, 2007
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REQUEST Public Hearing -Rezone of 3.66 acres from R-15 to TN-R zone for Gramercy
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CITY ATTORNEY
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CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
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PP 07-016
MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING October 18, 2007
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REQUEST Public Hearing -Preliminary Plat approval of 38 single-family attached
residential lots on 2.81 acres for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision -
south of E. Overland Road and west of S. Eagle Road
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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October 18, 2007
APPLICANT Tuscany Development, Inc. ITEM NO.
REQUEST Public Hearing -Conditional Use Permit for 32 multi-family dwelling units on 4
lots in an existing R-15 zone on 2.93 acres for Gramercy Townhome Subdivision -
south of E. Overland Road and west of S. Eagle Road
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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