1979 04-09A G E N D A
MERIDIAN PLAPINING & ZONING
April 9, 1979
ITEM:
Minutes of previous meeting (Approved with correction of time adjourned)
l: Chiropractic Clinic - 1205 Meridian Street (F.A. Nourse 3rd Amended Annex)
Dr. Ronald Combe
(Motion to Deny recommended to City Council)
2: 4-Plex Design Review - 805 W. 4th Street (Matlock property-F.A. Nourse 3rd Amended)
Mark Hopkins representing
(Tabled - placed on Agenda for 5.14.79)
3: Cherry Lane Village Golf Course Restaurant - (Tabled Conditional Use Permit)
4: Shopping Center - 1616 Meridian Street (Tabled - no representation)
5: Glennfield Manor Revised Preliminary Plat - North of Cherry Lane on Linder
(Approved changes)
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Davis, Morgan, Chastain & Stewart -Discussion of Property on Fairview Ave.
(Referred to City Council)
First Security Bank Building - Design Review - Bodine North Curve
(Tabled) (Original High School Annexation)
Char-'lies Catering - 101 W. Pine Street (Discussion onl~~ for pre-negative
(Input Only)
Two Duplex Lots (Rappleye Property) - 1435 West 1st Street
(Approved but with design review before Construction) (Lee Stucker represents)
Crestwood Estates Centre Valley - Rezone Request
(Approved to Council)
Williamson Freight - W. of Meridian Rd. on Overland (Bud Persons-Discuss only)
Wanda Hepper Addition - North of James Court
(Approved to Council as Medium Residential-water/sewer contingencies)
City Gas Pump
Meridian Plannin & Zonin A ril 9, 1979
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting called to order by Chairman Don Sharp at 8:05 P.M.
Commission Members present: Annette Hinrichs; Lee Mitchell; Ric Orton
Others present: Carol Rappleye; Irene Chastain; Albert Chastain; Berna Deanne Morgan;
Clarence Morgan; Ray Kellogg; L. Rackham; J. R. Kellogg; Lee R. Stucker;
Warren Calhoun; Ronald J. Combe; Bud Persons; Charlene Smith; Ted Hanson;
B. Hanson; Robert J. Stewart; Marilyn Olmstead; Keith A. Loveless, P.E.;
Mark Hopkins; James J. Smith; R.B. Glenn; Dave Schmidt;John Matzinger, P.E.
Minutes of the previous meeting were corrected.
The Motion was made by Annette Hinrichs and seconded by Lee Mitchell that the minutes of
the previous meeting of March 12, 1979, Page 9, Item 13 be corrected to "meeting adjourned
at 12:25 P.M.".
Motion Carried: All yea
Minutes approved as corrected.
Agenda Chiropractic Clinic - Ronald J. Combe Located 1205 Meridian Street
1 F. A. Nourse 3rd Amended Plat
Ronald J. Combe, Chiropractor, was present requesting a Conditional Use Permit to
practice his business at this location as his lease would be up at his present location.
The set back, parking and traffic was discussed.
Warren Calhoun, Realty World Home Finders, Inc. spoke on behalf of Dr. Combe, explaining
the parking situation now being a two-car depth.
Sharp questioned the permission of any Commercial, or office, development on that side
of Meridian Street, referring to the Comprehensive Plan. Sharp stated that we are
trying to correct the problem of backing onto the Street.
The Motion was made by Orton and seconded by Hinrichs to send the request for a
Conditional Use Permit for a Chiropractic Clinic at 1205 Meridian Street on to the
City Council with a Motion for denial.
Motion Carried: All yea
Calhoun asked if there was any way they could salvage property for redesign on parking.
Orton stated that an actual dimension drawing should have been presented that shows
all the physical features and would have not been quite so hard to decide.
Hinrichs stated that she did not approve of location in spite of parking improvement.
Objections were that this proposal does not belong to the Comprehensive Plan.
Agenda
2 4-Plex Design Review - 805 W. 4th Street (Matlock property - F.A. Nourse 3rd Amended)
Mark Hopkins was present representing request.
Orton inquired of density which was not known.
Sharp stated that in this area there is a high density and one of the concerns of this
Commission is that they start to reduce some of the density. There is a tremendous
service problem, there are no play areas and a lot of traffic in that area.
The request had been presented as 805 W. Idaho in error and there was discussion
concerning the correct location.
Hinrichs stated this makes a good deal of difference in making her decision or what
she might demand.
The Motion was made by Hinrichs and seconded by Orton that the 4-Plex Design Review
at 805 W. 4th Street be tabled and placed on the Agenda for the next meeting.
Motion Carried: All Yea
Correction to minutes by Orton 5.14.79 "Density was noted to be over the Comprehensive
Plan Density of 15 units per acre and suggested that this be dropped to 3 units per acre"
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Agenda Cherry Lane Village Golf Course Restaurant
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No one present representing the Conditional Use request.
The Motion was made by Annette Hinrichs and seconded by Lee Mitchell to table the
Conditional Use Permit request for the restaurant at Cherry Lane Golf Course.
Motion Carried: All Yea
Sharp instructed that a letter be written inquiring why they were not represented,
what type of facility they are going to operate, anticipated office hours and how
they are going to make this compatible with the residential.
Agenda
4 Shopping Center - 1616 Meridian Street Hank Houst
No one present representing this proposal.
The Motion was made by Mitchell and seconded by Orton to table the Shopping Center
proposal by Hank Houst at 1616 Meridian Street.
Motion Carried: All Yea
Sharp instructed that a letter be sent instructing the representative to inform
this Commission within ten days if they wish to be placed upon the Agenda.
Agenda Revised Preliminary Plat Glennfield Manor- North of Cherry Lane on Linder
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Marilyn Olmstead, J-U-B Engineers, was present representing Glennfield Manor
Olmstead explained the changes of lots opening onto Linder. They have added seven (7)
lots, a through street and have approval of ACRD.
Orton stated that he liked the change in the road mat.
The Motion was made by Hinrichs and seconded by Mitchell to approve the changes
as requested on the Preliminary Plat Glennfield Manor.
Motion Carried: All Yea
Agenda Davis, Morgan, Chastain and Stewart - Discussion of Property on Fairview Avenue
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Clarence Morgan stated that their request for annexation had been before Planning
and Zoning and were not sure why they were present at this meeting.
The Motion was made by Mitchell and seconded by Orton that Davis, Morgan, Chastain
and Stewart Annexation request be recommended to the City Council as before.
(10.9.78 recommended Annexation as "C" Commercial)
Motion Carried: All Yea
I Agenda First Security Bank Building - Design Review Located Bodine N. Curve (Original H.School)
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(Annexation )
No one was present representing proposal.
The Motion was made by Mitchell and seconded by Hinrichs to table the First Security
Bank Building Design Review request and request drawings of what is proposed.
Motion Carried: All Yea
I Agenda Char-'lies Catering - lO1W. Pine Street
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Charlene Smith was present representing Conditional Use Permit fora proposed
catering service. Smith stated that discussion was needed for pre-negative input.
There was discussion concerning parking. Smith stated there would be at least 20
parking spots on their lot and presented a letter to the School Board of Trustees
for additional parking on the School property directly across from their site.
Maririian Planning R Zoning 3. April 9, 1979
Agenda
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Agenda
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Char-'lies Catering - (Cont'd)
Hinrichs stated that she had serious reservations, not because of the use but because
of the location. Also, that she did not want to see Pine become a Commercial street.
Sharp stated that he would like to see someone come in and fix it up as it is a
beautiful home, ideal for this type of situation, but at this time he questioned if
we are ready to start commercial down Pine Street.
Orton stated that/we are going to keep the trend going that we have to insist
following Comprehensive Plan.
James Smith, owner of the property, stated that he was the fourth owner and would
have to invest approximately $10,000 to renovate. He stated that he was in the process
of building a new home and was not worth his investment bringing it back to it's
superb condition of a Victorian home. Mr. Smith felt it was a very worthwhile home
for this type of business.
Sharp stated that a Conditional Use Permit is a very difficult matter to handle and
instructed Charlene Smith to present the proposal for Public Hearing if she desires.
Two Duplex Lots - 1435 West 1st Street Design Review
Lee Stucker was present representing Carol Rappleye.
Stucker stated that there is one dwelling on this property at this time, the lot
124 x 128 feet and they are asking for that lot to be divided and allow a duplex
approval on each lot. Survey results show a 52 foot lot and a 72 foot lot,
which would give and 6 foot side yard. The existing house would be part of the project.
Mitchell stated that he would like to see a Planning or Design Review.
Stucker stated that the plan will be submitted to the Building Inspector for the
City's approval.
Stucker explained he was before the Commission to get the property in a position to
sell for this type of use for Mrs. Rappleye.
The Motion was made by Hinrichs and seconded by Mitchell to go on record as supporting
duplexes at 1435 West 1st Street but with design review before construction.
Motion Carried: All yea
Agenda
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Orton suggested that the Commission ask Mr. Stucker as representative on the sale
to include the request for Design Review before construction.
Stucker agreed to pick up a copy of these minutes and put them in a file and present
them to whoever Mrs. Rappleye sells the lot to.
Crestwood Estates Centre Valley - Rezone Request
The Motion was made by Hinrichs and seconded by Mitchell that Crestwood Estates
Centre Val',ey Rezone Request be brought from the table for consideration.
Motion Carried: All yea
There was discussion.
John Matzinger, CTM Engineering, and Dave Schmidt, Consultant were present representing
proposal. Matzinger stated that this was a revised layout and description. They
have brought it up to 4.5 acres and sized to keep it up with the Comprehensive Plan.
Schmidt stated that this was part of a Master Plan which was already submitted.
The proposal is a Commercial Center, relatively small stores with some professional
type offices. City services are available. 15,000 to 20,000 foot store.
Bud Persons stated that he has had his Shopping Center proposal presented since
October, 1978 and that Crestwood proposal is basically a "take-off" of the one
he had prepared. He stated that his corner is not in the City at this time.
Persons also stated that the Northwest corner is the best corner for the Shopping
Center and that it should be first come, first serve.
Orton stated that the Commission was unable to do that ("first come, first serve")
and that the Motion that denied Persons was not on that basis.
There was discussion.
The feeling was that the Commission will abide by the Comprehensive Plan
Meridian Planni~ & Zoning .4. April 9, 1979
AginOda Crestwood Estates Centre Valley - (Cont'd)
Sharp stated that Persons proposal had been tabled because it was contiguous
contingent upon another Annexation.
Schmidt stated that the Crestwood Estates Commercial Center will be First Class
and planned fora neighborhood, not just a center, and is the first phase of much
more to come.
Sharp stated that they have to consider the proposal before them on it's own merits
and that this proposal does meet the requirements of the Comprehensive Plan.
The Motion was made by Hinrichs and seconded by Orton to recommend to the City Council
the Rezone request for Crestwood Estates Centre Valley Commercial on the corner of
Franklin and Linder, with design review including landscaping.
Motion Carried: All yea
Agenda Williamson Freight - West of Meridian Rd. on Overland (Bud Persons)
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Bud Persons presented Williamson Freight proposal located near Mountain View Equipment.
To start out operation with 30 mechanics, cover about 10 acres initally of the 33.6 acre
parcel. Persons stated that Valley News is not adverse to this proposal as their
property is next to this parcel. He suggested that all parcels around this area
could go in for County zoning for their purposes and would like to have a letter from
the Commission, plus the City Council, to present to Ada County for zoning.
Persons question put to Commission 1) Would you like to get this Company in here
2)Would you work with this Company either by submitting a letter of approval on your
approval form
There was discussion.
Mr. and Mrs. Morgan Plant questioned Persons the meaning of "freight handling"
and why all the mechanics - are they manufacturing.
Persons did not have the facts.
Sharp stated that we need more facts, we need to know what they intend to do, is it
it Industrial, or are they going to use it as a manufacturing concern, are they going
to be hauling freight?
Agenda
12 Wanda Hepper Addition - North of James Court - East of Meridian Manor Addition
Keith Loveless, Loveless Engineers, represented Wanda Hepper Addition.
2.34 Acres. This was discussed.
Orton stated in his opinion if we annex this and zone it "A" Residential it would
be a worthy goal to develop these two acres.
The area is too large fora one family house and not big enough to farm.
The annexation and lot split would be a benefit.
The Motion was made by Orton and seconded by Hinrichs that they recommend approval
to the City Council Wanda Hepper Addition Annexation request as Medium Residential
development, with water and sewer contingencies.
Motion Carried: Orton, yea; Hinrichs, yea; Mitchell, nay
Agenda
13 City Gas Pump - Located in City Park behind Doctors Office
The location of the gas pumps was discussed.
Sharp was authorized to discuss with the Mayor to see if they could get the pumps moved
and that the body is unanimous in the objection of location.
The Motion was made by Orton and seconded by Mitchell that the meeting be adjourned
at 10:41 P.M.
Motion Carried: All yea
Attest: Chairman
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