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1982 08-19THE COURT REPORTED • �- ! �� uTjuu�KPIF 1R & ASSOCIATES 605 West Fort Street Box 1625 Boise, Idaho 83701 Employer No. 820306520 Telephone (208) 345-3704 John C. Tucker September 7, 1982 Grace M. Tucker Dianne E. Tucker Cromwell CITY OF MERIDIAN 82-403 Yvonne L. Hyde PLANNING 8 ZONING COMMISSIONJaylee u'* Habelan Lynda C. Habel � LyndaC. 728 Meridian Avenue Lorna Wagner Meridian, Idaho 83642 , Pamela J. Leaton Ginger Welker cs.jc:�t•e,...d Kathy L. Wilkerson vrmrtsbae Janet M. Guy Office Manager In Re: CITY OF MERIDIAN PLANNING i ZONjWG COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING August 19, 1982 Reporter's Transcript of Proci�edings Original and Two Copies ..... $ 105.40 Registered Mail:........... 3.11 Total $ 108.51 Have it reported — The record never forgets! h 4 ev— ''y3 �. - G' GRy `M,r'r � t+k��a, `�� +S aAY��y 't:'• vs.�j."�`F `'., � s m w{ � ' a N , -+r k' y""`'r W amu.""%'t3s� 5 z'Iea4".4+r;.k�` r -`.}{^✓ l �a cv"t- 3 F�w-R �Y ,p � P G'F+'� v , �.,gec r �r n r r t s>7Nrrtu ��� MWV11 ;v, FUP "+ .P, ,k �i s 3`� •*, i t .x �t ,,w, 3{ti/... OTr PP tg cry �,,..,,{(.-. S- 7r5h a �R Re E a} t w,.,� ^`$ 'et e r i. 1AIM it UVIIe r w # yr ^ f IN .... _, r �F .�..rn:. ✓ rrr xr.h+; sa �. �r�k z '",a��.. y� � x a- , r 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 is 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MERIDIAN, IDAHO, TUESDAY, AUGUST 19, 1982, 8:10 P.M. MRS. HINRICHS: I'd like to call this meeting to order. The first order of business is a roll call. I'd like to call the Secretary of the Planning and Zoning Commission to call the roll. MRS. NIEMAN: Madam Chairman, Annette Hinrichs. MRS. HINRICHS: Here. MRS. NIEMAN: Planning and Zoning member, Don Sharp. MR. SHARP: Here. MRS. NIEMAN: Lee Mitchell. MR. MITCHELL: Here. MRS. NIEMAN: Tom Eddy. MR. EDDY: Here. MRS. NIEMAN: Bob Spencer. MR. SPENCER: Here. MRS. NIEMAN: Burl Pipkin. MR. PIPKIN: Here. MRS. NIEMAN: Madam Chairman, all members are present. MRS. HINRICHS: Thank you. This evening we are first on the agenda going to have a public hearing on the proposed 1 1 1 '• I 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Comprehensive Plan amendments as printed in this packet which has a front cover called "News Release" and I'd like to very quickly just name the amendments that we are considering this evening. Changing of the designation of 1-80 to I-84 in every place proper and those are listed. Page 15, add the following section titled: ECONOMIC POLICIES. "Add: Interchange Enterprises. Meridian is encouraging the potential development of regional enterprises. These would include, but not be limited to: a regional shopping center, technical'. industrial park, vocational technical school and service commercial enterprises. Such development would serve the region and help Meridian to achieve it's goal of economic self-sufficiency." Page 18, under Eastern Industrial Review Area, add Number.2, "It is.the policy of Meridian to encourage and promote the development of an overpass at the intersection of Locust Grove and 1-84 by the Idaho Department of Transportation." On the same Page 18, change Number 2 to Number 3 and Number 3 to Number 4. On Page 20 under the heading Regional Shopping Center, "Change to: Meridian is encouraging a potential development of a Regional Shopping Center 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 within an Interchange Enterprise area. It would have a significant impact on economic growth of Meridian toward the goal of economic of self-sufficiency desired by the community." On Page 23, under the heading, MIXED USE REVIEW AREA WEST OF KUNA-MERIDIAN ROAD, NORTH OF I-80 AND SOUTH OF WALTMAN LANE. "Change to: This area is located in proximity to an Interchange Enterprise area, is relatively level in topography and will have excellent access to a freeway interchange." On Page 32, "Transportation, Functional Definitions. Change to: Principal Arterial -- Cherry Lane/Fairview, Franklin, Eagle -- South to Amity, Highway 20/26 (Chinden), Kuna-Meridian Road (Highway 69) (South of Franklin), Overland -- Kuna-Meridian Road to the East. Minor arterials -- Ten Mile (between Cherry Lane and Overland), Overland "between "Ten Mile to Kuna-Meridian Road, Linder" from "Highway 20/26 to Franklin, Meridian Road -- North of Fairview, Ustick" and "Locust Grove" from "Fairview to Overland." On Page 33, Collectors, Linder, Ten Mile, Slack Cat, Amity, Gruber, Meridian from Cherry Lane to Meridian-•Kuna Road, East First, from Fairview to Ll 0 6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 s 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 22- 24 ?24 24 Franklin, Locust Grove North of Fairview, Victory, McMillan, Pine from Ten Mile to Eagle, Chateau from Ten Mile to Eagle. On Page 37, move the designations, CHERRY PLAZA to Number 7. NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING CENTERS to Number 7, OLD TOWN to Number 7 and delete REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER and paragraphs including Numbers 1 and 2. On Page 38, add, "INTERCHANGE ENTERPRISE AREAS. Interchange Enterprise areas shall plan for the smooth and easy flow of traffic; lessing the impact on the neighboring residential area. Frontage roads, well-planned parking with controlled access, and use of existing streets shall be carefully considered." Page 41, Policies for the Libraries, strike Numbers 1, 2, 3a, 3b, 3c and 4 and insert Number 1. "Due to the anticipated growth within Urban Service Planning Area, the City of Meridian should encourage the Meridian Free Library District to expand services as needed." The next page you will see the existing Meridian Policy Diagram. On the following page you will see folded over the top of that, the changes that we are recommending. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The old one is the straight lines and the new designation for the Urban Service Planning Area are the somewhat slashed or slanted marks. The fold -out part is simply a diagram of those major arterials and minor arterials and collectors that I have already read. Following that is the documentation that the Planning and Zoning Commission has put together to explain our reasons and the impacts of these changes that we have proposed. At this time I would like to open the public hearing on the Comprehensive Plan Change amendments. We cannot tell from this list whether those people who are wishing to speak, wish to speak on the Comprehensive Plan amendments at this time or later on the annexation question. I think what we'll do is simply name those people who have asked to speak and then they can tell me right at that time whether it's on this issue or the next one. I must ask you when you do come up here to give testimony, we have a court reporter here. She requests that when you give your name, that you also spell your last names so that she can get a 5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 correct record. Colin Connell. Did you wish to speak at this time or later? The Comprehensive Plan amendments or annexation, which do you prefer to speak? Either one? MR. CONNELL: Yes. MRS. HINRICHS: Your turn. MR. CONNELL: Colin Connell, C -o -n -n -a-1-1. 1401 Sage Point. I wish to speak on the issue of the existence in Meridian if the Regional Center is moved out, I'd like to say, as a businessman in Meridian, I'd like to see it kind of stay a city and I can't see how this can happen if we all of a sudden move all of the action out to Eagle Road. The traffic generates business opportunities. I think we need the traffic for downtown Meridian. I've never seen a -- I have ten years of experience in commercial investment real estate and I've never seen an area where we had a high traffic count, where you had a low land value. If the center is allowed to move out there it will take all the traffic out there. There's a lot of sport facilities that go along with the Regional Center and I'd like to see those sports • I0 146 li li 1 facilities come back to downtown Meridian here rather 2 than, if you're half way to Boise, why don't they go 3 on into Boise. You're just going to blend the two 4 areas. 5 Fairview's a pretty good strip center now 6 and if all the action goes out to Eagle Road, looks 7 to me like you're going to continue your strip center. 6 If you go over to Nampa, you see what's 9 happened to Nampa. You can't find a center to the 10 city there. All the shopping is out of town. Your 11 older buildings are not -- there's not incentive for 12 the owners to develop and use because they haven't 13 got any traffic. 14 I'd like to see, if we do have a Regional 15 Center, have it as close to Meridian as possible 16 because right here in Meridian, right outside at 17 least, you're on the edge of it, so you would have 1e the other businesses that maybe don't want to be in 19 there, offices and stuff, that maybe would relocate 20 and rejuvenate a few things downtown here. 21 Thank you. 22 MRS. HINRICHS: This letter is on the 23 Comprehensive Plan's amendment. 24 "Dear Chairman and Commission Members, 25 On July 1, 1982,:''I objected to the proposed change in • • i • Lj u :7 • 1 the Meridian Comprehensive Use Plan. On that date I 2 also submitted for the record a copy of a study done 3 in 1980 for Dayton Hudson entitled 'A Regional 4 Shopping Mall for Meridian. Assessment of Community 5 Impacts.' I wish to have both the letter and the 6 study made—part of the record for tonights meeting. 7 I am enclosing a copy of my letter of 8 July 1, 1982. I want to emphasize the facts stated 9 therein. Meridian cannot afford this change. The 10 expense that isn't even directly related to the 11 current plans will grow through the g years to a large 12 and unnecessary burden. 13 You will be, in fact, down sorting our 14 property. We have had too many years of planning to 15 allow this to happen without a fight. We strongly 16 urge you to table this change. It will not hurt 17 Meridian's chances to participate in any growth by to waiting. When you have something that is certain, 19 you can always take whatever steps are necessary at 20 that time." 21 This letter of July 1st, has it already 22 been put into the record? 23 MRS. NIEMAN: Yes. 24 MRS. HINRICHS: It's already in the record. 25 Okay. The letter is signed William A. Hon. K I• 1• 1• 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 s 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The letter from Mr. Hon from July 1st has already been made part of the record. Richard Williams. Is this the Comprehensive Plan? MR. WILLIAMS: Yes. My name is Richard Williams, just like it sounds. I live at 917 Storey here in Meridian and basically I would like to re-enter the letter, my letter of June 30th to you since this is, "a public hearing on the Comprehensive Plan amendments." It's just more of a formality of doing this and I just -- as you know, was at the, at least one of the public workshops regarding these updates on this amendment and I see that some of them are cosmetic and I appreciate that. I do have serious concerns that the Enterprise Zone or the -- how they have it, Interchange and Enterprise Areas that seem to have come up now and from the public workshops it occurred to me that this hearing tonight is more of a legal formality than a public hearing because it appears to me that Planning and Zoning has their minds made up. Don't confuse me with the facts. I just urge you not to rush to judgment. I think that some of the studies that have been done 1 9 1 LA • • • • • 0 b 1 are far from complete and I would ask you to look at 2 the tax impacts. What would the property tax impacts 3 on this and are we just now at the point that we're 4 rushing for any shopping center, any regional shopping 5 center that happens to come along? Are we just going 6 to go out and grab this because we've become so like 7 a junkie, we need a fix? A fix seems to be Meridian 8 Regional Shopping Center: Anybody, anyplace at 91 anytime to get one. 10 I just urge you to really -- to reconsider 11 this and just not rush to judgment, which it appears 12 you're doing tonight. 13 MRS. HINRICHS: Phil Hansen. Al Marsden. 14 MR. MARSDEN: Members of the Planning 15 Commission, my name is Al Marsden, M -a -r -s -d -e -n, 16 residing in the region. 17 What I'd like to state tonight is based 18 upon a lot of the valuation on my part to give a 19 reasonable aspect to the planning process in Meridian. 20 The purpose of the Comprehensive Plan, 21 of course, is to manage and challenge growth. Of 22 course, we need good planning and we need to be able 23 to control this development or any development to make 24 sure that the community objectives are achieved. Good 25 planning is a look into the future to develop real estate plans that allows development to occur, so Ion 2 as it makes community contributions and it pays its 3 own way. 4 The bottom line is that I support good 5 planning. Also, I support the concept of Interchange 6 Enterprise Areas developed and placed into the plan 7 currently for review tonight. g I also support the concept of expansion of the g Urban Service Area to Cloverdale. I think it's 10 essential that the community consider the total 11 impacts that may occur from the development of a 12 Meridian Road Interchange, Eagle Road Interchange 13 and possibly Cloverdale Road Interchange. 14 I think its in the best interest of the 15 community to make sure that this growth is managed 16 and controlled in a proper way. I think its in the 17 best interest of the community goals of 18 self-sufficiency. These interchanges will definitely 19 encourage additional commercial and industrial 20 development along the railroad tracks and other areas 21 which are important to the self-sufficiency objective 22 of the community. 23 The issues of annexation are different 24 than Comprehensive Plan issues. Comprehensive Plan 25 is concerned is about the 10 and 20 year program for 11 • 1 development. Annexation is concerned about 2 immediate issues, about how the development is going 3 to occur, what the zoning should be and can it pay 4 for itself in the Urban Services. 5 The Comprehensive Plan items that I have 6 suggested are issues that we deal with in the future. 7 The issue of annexation tonight should be concerned g about the issues about -- if it will pay for itself 9 and if it's adequate and good development. 10 Again, I support what the Planning 11 Commissioner has done to date and I wish to have the 12 opportunity to submit written documents that would 13 support the position I have presented. 14 MRS. HINRICHS: Ed Riddle. 15 ED RIDDLE: I'm Ed Riddle. I live at 16 10940 Tahiti Street, which is about half way between 17 Meridian and Boise. I'm also a candidate for 18 Ada County Commissioner to represent this district. 19 1 think I've stated before that I think as ^a 20 Commissioner and as a candidate that we should remain 21 as noncommittal on all these various projects because 22 they're all in the county. 23 I do represent this district and i will 24 bring the problems of this district to the 25 Commission and I will see that the Commission acts 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 s 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 upon it, but I think we should, you know, remain noncommittal. I would also say that we need the Regional Mall here. I don't like to see this money going to Portland, Seattle, and Salt Lake. I'd like to keep it in the Boise Valley. We also need a mall for -- I've heard from 70 to $100,000,000, you know, nationwide we're talking about fifty percent. Ada County is down 80 to 85 percent. That's disasterous, really. We need that work. We need to get our people going and I will do all that I can to support a regional mall wherever they build it and I think it's up to Paul Quong and these type people to bring these type stores in here and I think that everybody's arguing, you know, this sitels best that site's best. I think these stores are going to tell us which site is best and what's best for the stores to make a profit. That's the name of the game. What's.beSt for them is also best for the people of Ada County because these stores with their research, they figure out what is the closest way or distances to travel of all of the people that they serve and isn't that what the people want? They want the closest way, too. 13 1 So, let's get this mall rolling and I'll 2 pledge my support back 100 percent. 3 Thank you. 4 MRS. HINRICHS: Don Storey, did you wish to 5 speak? You have a question mark. 6 MR. STOREY: Can I wait until a little later, 7 please? 8 MRS. HINRICHS: Yes. They next name on my 9 list is Bob Nahas. 10 MR. NAHAS: Mrs. Hinrichs, Members of the 11 Planning Commission, I'm Bob Nahas. I'm an Eagle 12 resident. I'm here tonight representing my father, 13 Robert T. Nahas, who is the owner of the shopping 14 center site at Meridian Road and I-84. 15 I have with me tonight a letter from my 15 father addressed to the Members of the Planning 17 Commission that I'd like to read. 18 "I write to you to express my strong 19 objections to the proposed amendments to the Meridian 20 Comprehensive Plan. 21 Under the Comprehensive Plans adopted in 22 1977 and 1978 by Boise City, Ada County and Meridian 23 it was planned that there be a shopping center in 24 downtown Meridian and downtown Boise. Since 1978 I 25 have expended an immeasurable amount of my own time I and effort and a great deal of money in reliance on 2 Meridian's Comprehensive Plan which designated the 3 Meridian Road site as the Regional Shopping Center 4 site. 5 I have always felt that a shopping center 5 in downtown Meridian and one in downtown Boise were 7 feasible and I have encouraged that concept. 8 Obviously, it is clear that the citizens of both s Boise and Meridian want shopping facilities. 10 In order for both Boise and Meridian to 11 achieve their goals of obtaining shopping facilities, 12 there must be a great deal of cooperation and joint 13 effort between the two cities and cooperation with 14 Ada County. 15 Boise City and Ada County both have 18 expressed strong disagreement with Meridian's recent 17 attempts to obtain control over those 'greenbelt' 18 lands.in Ada County which lie between the two cities. 19 I believe that any further attempts to obtain this 20 'greenbelt' area land will only antagonize Boise and 21 Ada County. The effect then would be to encourage 22 the City of Boise to expand its own land area out past 23 Cloverdale Road in retaliation. 24 The original Comprehensive Plans for 25 Boise, Meridian and Ada Cbunty plan and provide for 1• 15 C7 1 this 'greenbelt' agriculture buffer zone between the 2 two cities to preserve their individual identities. 3 Neither city should now violate that open space 4 because, I believe, that once one city violates that 5 open space it will only encourage the other city to 6 an equal reaction. Such noncooperation is only 7 mutually counterproductive. Furthermore, an 6 amendment to Meridian's Comprehensive Plan at this 9 time which moves Meridian out into a large portion of 10 Ada County, against Boise's and Ada County's wishes, 11 will serve only to delay negotiations necessary to 12 provide both Boise and Meridian with the shopping 13 facilities they want and need so desperately. 14 I also strenuously object to the City's 15 changing of the designation of my shopping center 16 site in the proposed Comprehensive Plan amendments. 17 When I purchased this land in Meridian it was zoned 18 as the only shopping center site and it had a value 19 on it due to that designation. I relied upon the 20 City's zoning and have continued to rely on that 21 zoning and the Meridian Comprehensive Plan. I have 22 spent a great deal of money in reliance on that 23 zoning and the Meridian Comprehensive Plan. Now the 24 City wishes to change all that in the Comprehensive 25 Plan amendments. These amendments will affect the 1 value of my land as a Regional Shopping Center site 2 and I am now placing the City on notice of that fact. 3 It is clear to me that no basis or 4 justification for the proposed Plan amendments exist. 5 There is no error in the original 1978 Comprehensive 6 Plan, nor are there any substantial changes in or 7 around the City which can in any manner justify the 8 Comprehensive Plan amendments. 9 In my opinion, these proposed amendments 10 to the Comprehensive Plan are ill conceived, poorly 11 thought out and not in the best interests of the 12 City of Meridian. 13 Sincerely, Robert Nahas." 14 Thank you. 15 MRS. HINRICHS: Paul Quong. 16 MR. QUONG: My name is Paul Quong, Q -u -o -n -g. 17 I urge you to support and pass the 18 Comprehensive Plan change as presented tonight. I 19 think it will give the City of Meridian a viable 20 alternative to get a Regional Shopping Center built 21 within its city limits. 22 There has been mention of two sites in 23 Ada County for regional shopping centers. One is at 24 Meridian Road and one downtown. 25 We know how long it took the people in 17 1 Boise to try to get a regional shopping center 2 downtown and we now know what happened to it. It has 3 failed once again. a Now, could we think that the City of 5 Meridian will continue to withhold another site in 6 alternative, so that they can drag out once again 7 the regional shopping center location because the 6 department stores will not want to locate at g Meridian Road? 10 I think that the association of a major 11 developer at,:ithe Nahas site has proven even with 12 them, they cannot get eight or ten commitments. 13 These folks, the number two developers 14 in the nation have thought they could get a major 15 mass merchandizer to commit to the Nahas site at 16 Meridian Road and yet even they have failed and after 17 all these years the site has been zoned as a regional 18 shopping center site and it has not been able to be 19 developed even with the interchange, the utilities 20 and the road networks. 21 Now folks, can we take a lesson from what 22 happened in downtown Boise? Look what happened to 23 them. After 17 years of only having one alternative 24 for a regional shopping center development. 25 What we are trying to do with the 18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Comprehensive Plan change as presented is to give Meridian a second alternative for a regional shopping center. If this can be done, the department stores, who really make the choice, once are located at Eagle Road, Meridian will have a regional shopping center, the only one in Ada County. Thank you. MRS. HINRICHS: Those are all the names that have checked that they wish to speak. Is there anyone else at this time that wishes to speak? Yes. Don Storey. MR. STOREY: My name is Don Storey. I live at 436 West Washington. "Offers, offers, offers. Developer Paul Quong has stated and restated his offers over and over again to individuals, groups and those attending public hearings. I would like to list his offers one more time for the record: 1. He will pay for the extension of sewer lines. 2. He will provide the City of Meridian with a fire station and one fire engine. 3. The City will be provided with two police cars. 4. He will build an on-site well. The well will be put in before development starts. 5. He will fund the total cost of the Eagle Road • J :l u 1• 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 it 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Interchange. 6. All road improvements in the vacinity of the interchange will be paid for. 7. He will pay for the maintenance of the interchange for twenty years. 8. Included in his proposal is the opportunity for jobs, taxes, and revenue for our City. Meridian and the rest of the valley would be helped by this development. Two thousand and five hundred part-time jobs would be created. The building and construction industry would be helped greatly. The tax advantage would aid our city services, schools, and community. Shopping advantages, resulting in money being spent right here will mushroom throughout the entire county and state. The other Meridian mall option is not really a valid option. While I was Mayor of Meridian, Mr. Nahas promised several times that he was going to,start his Meridian Road mall within a few months. I don't believe that he has ever lived up to any of his promises. On June 7 of this year he stated at Paul Quong's Annexation Hearing that he would make a major announcement within 60 days. Seventy-two days later, today, still no announcement. As Mayor for over a quarter of a century, I never made a statement that I couldn't back up. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 I've stated before, the traffic situation is an important issue. Downtown Meridian in its present condition is not capable of handling the traffic that a mall at Meridian Road would generate. Mr. Nahas has not offered to fund road and interchange improvements.for his mall. If Meridian is truly concerned about its present and future traffic conditions, the Eagle Road mall must be approved for annexation. It would be suicidal -- now, there's a big word, to fund the Nahas proposal. Meridian must act now. The more stalls, delays, and postponements that occur, the more Meridian is giving in to Boise in a shopping mall contest. Speaking of Boise, what has developer John Price ©f`f'e:red to the community, including Meridian? Paul Quong has offered our community much. I urge you members of the Planning and Zoning Commission to approve the Eagle Road Regional Mall Annexation request. Let us turn Quong's offers into results and help Meridian to prosper. Other developers have proven their merit; we must act now by approving the Eagle Road proposal." Thank you. MRS. HINRICHS: Is there anyone else who wishes to speak*at this time? C7 • L L • • 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 s 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 1s 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jim Potter. MR. POTTER: My name is Jim Potter, P -o -t -t -e -r. I'm an area resident, a local businessman and a consultant for Paul Quong. I think first of all, we'd like to thank every member of this commission for the many hours that they have put in listening to the many various items. I feel that the proposed changes are a very commendable compromise and very fair compromise to all parties. I find that the Interchange Enterprise area is quite consistent with other urban areas. Many of them are called major activity centers, urban activity centers, urban enterprise areas. We are somewhat unique from the most of such areas into our urbanized area in Treasure Valley is spread over perhaps a broader area, divided among more communities and still we are approaching that population which is gaining the interest and respect of major merchandizers. I think we all know that in the past few years that we have lost commerce in the industry. we have failed to attract others that we have sought very hard to attract, primarily because we did not have the proper zoning and proper land available with 22 1 2 3 a 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 A 21 2. 24 2z 2! freeway access, visability, etcetera and so forth, to insure those commerce and industry tenents selecting our community. I believe that this significant change will accomplish that. I think further that in doing so, the effect will not be as has been stated, to reduce the value of one piece of property. To allow the open competition between sites which are at equal standings, as far as zoning, land use classification annexation, will give the community a greater opportunity to enticing its first major freeway enterprise and thus in results, bring in other associated enterprises into our community, so that probably it's highly more likely that rather than diminishing the value of whichever site is not successful in obtaining the Regional Shopping Center, you will, in fact, probably be the biggest factor in enhancing the value of that site for other uses, which will look to this community as progressive. Thank you. MRS. HINRICHS: Donna. MS. DAY: My name is Donna Day, D -a -y. I live at 2001 Todd Drive in Meridian. I won't belabor the points that we've already made and I know you're tired of hearing the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 people saying the same things over and over again, so I'll re-enter the testimony that I made last time. MRS. HINRICHS: That testimony is already part of the record. This has been submitted before, okay. Thank you. Anyone else? If not, the Hearing on the Proposed Amendments for the Comprehensive Plan is closed. Do you gentlemen of the Commission have any questions of anyone? MR. SHARP: I think Lee wants to ask one question. MRS. HINRICHS: If you have no questions, do any of you have any motions or comments? We have to have something. MR. PIPKIN: Madam Chairman, I would move that we take the Comprehensive Plan Amendment under further consideration until our next regular public meeting. MRS. HINRICHS: Take the testimony under advisement? MR. PIPKIN: Under advisement, right. MR. EDDY: I'll second it. MRS. HINRICHS: Tom Eddy seconded it. Burl Pipkin made the motion, Tom Eddy seconded it. It has been moved and seconded that we • 2 71 1 take the testimony from this hearing under advisement • 2 until our next regular meeting. 3 Is there any other further discussion? 4 All those in favor. i 5 MR. SHARP: Aye. 6 MR. MITCHELL: Aye. 7 MR. EDDY: Aye. • 9 MR. PIPKIN: Aye. 9 MR. SPENCER: Nay. 10 MRS. HINRICHS: We will take the testimony • 11 from this evening under advisement until our next 12 regular meeting, which will be September 13, 1982. 13 The next order of business is public • 14 testimony on the proposed annexations. I would like 15 to call upon the city attorney at this time to explain 16 our status on the annexations. • 17 MR. CROOKSTON: Madam Chairman and Members of 18 the Planning and Zoning Commission, the City has 19 been or have had forwarded to it a letter from • = 20 George Wurst and Dorothy A. Wurst, who had been 21 previously owners of property requesting annexation g 22 and their property was an integral part of the . 23 annexation proposed by Quong-Watkins properties. 24 Without the Wurst property, all property east of their 25 ro ert P p y, including their property, would not be • 2 71 I• It I• Ir 1 contiguous as required by the annexation statutes of 2 the State of Idaho and, therefore, does not competent 3 for this body or City Council to act upon those 4 requests. 5 However, since the requests for 6 annexations were individual requests, you still have 7 all of those parties who have requested annexation 8 and are owners of property to the west of the Wursf 9 property and you still are competent and have ability 10 to annex those properties and you can act on those 11 at this time, since there has been proper notice of 12 this hearing. 13 MRS. HINRICHS: Gentlemen, do you understand 14 1 where we are? 15 MR. SHARP: Unfortunately. 16 MRS. HINRICHS: What are your wishes? t7 MR. PIPKIN: Do we have any input from the 18 owners of those pieces of -- parcels of property? 19 MR. SHARP: That would be contiguous? 20 MR. PIPKIN: That would be contiguous; 21 MRS. HINRICHS: We have not received any 22 notice from them to withdraw. 23 MR. SPENCER: Is there any comment on that? 24 MRS. HINRICHS: Would you like to go ahead and 251 take testimony on these seven? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 s 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. SPENCER: We should. MR. PIPKIN: Might as well hear them if they're here. MRS. HINRICHS: Then I will open the hearing for testimony on the proposed annexation for these parcels. The Shultz Annexation, the Walker Annexation, the S and W Kennels Annexation, the Northwest Pipeline Company Annexation, the Moon Annexation, the MaLeCo, that's spelled, M -a -L -a -C -o, Annexation and the Azevedo Annexation, spelled, A -z -e -v -a -d -o. Is there anyone who wishes to speak on these proposed,annexations? MEMBER OF THE AUDIENCE: You failed to read one name, Ronald Thomas. MRS. HINRICHS: I'm sorry. I did miss that one. The Ronald Thomas Annexation. I'm sorry. If not, the hearing for the proposed annexations, Shultz, Walker, S and W Kennels, Northwest Pipeline, Moon, MaLeCo, Azevedo, and Thomas are closed. MR. MITCHELL: I'll move we also take these under advisement. MRS. HINRICHS: Until when? MR. MITCHELL: Until the next regular meeting. C7 J i i r] 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 S 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 2a 21 22 2: 24 2'. MRS. HINRICHS: Is there a second? MR. SPENCER: What was the motion? MRS. HINRICHS: It was moved to take these seven annexations, Shultz, Walker, S and W Kennels, Northwest, Moon, MaLeCo, Azevedo, and Thomas under advisement until our next regular meeting. Do we have a second? MR. SHARP: I'll second it. MRS. HINRICHS: It's been moved and seconded that we take these annexations under advisement. Is there any further discussion? All those in favor. MR. PIPKINi Aye. MR. SPENCER: Aye. MR. EDDY: Aye. MR. MITCHELL: Aye. MR. SHARP: Aye. MRS. HINRICHS: All those opposed? MR. MITCHELL: I move we adjourn. MR. SHARP: Before we do that, could we ask the minutes of this meeting be prepared in advance of our regular meeting so that we have them to read and review, these proceedings? MRS. HINRICHS: The minutes will be available to us soon. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MRS. NIEMAN: By September 7th. MRS. HINRICHS: It's been requested that we have the minutes by September 7th. A11 those in favor. MR. SHARP: Aye. MR. MITCHELL: Aye. MR. EDDY: Aye. MR. SPENCER: Aye. MR. PIPKIN: Aye. MRS. HINRICHS: A11 those apposed? This meeting is adjourned. Thank you. (The meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m.) 29 l: I• • I• 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 AUTHENTICATION This is to certify that the attached proceedings before the City of Meridian Planning and going Commission, in a Public Hearing on Thursday, August 19, 1982, commencing at 8:10 p.m., were held as herein appears, and that this is the original transcript thereof. KATHY L ILKERSON, Court R porter