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1984 02-13 A G E N D A MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING FEBRUARY 13, 1984 ITEM: Minutes of Previous Meeting Held January 9, 1984 APPROVED 1. Preliminary Plat, Final Plat, Variances RECOMMEND Upland Industries APPROVAL Meridian Planning & Zoning Feb. 13, 1984 Regular meeting of the Meridian Planning & Zoning called to order by Chairman Bob Spencer at 7:30 p.m. Commission Members Present: Marnell Chenowith; Moe Alidjani; Jim Johnson; Walt Morrow; Jim Shearer; Others Present: Lloyd Howe; Wayne Crookston Jr.; Jack Niemann; Gary Smith Minutes of the previous meeting held January 9, 1984 were approved as written. Item 1 Preliminary & Final Plat Upland Industries Lloyd Howe was present representing Upland Industries. Howe explained to the Commissioner that there is a problem with regard to Eagle Road and Fairview Avenue. Howe said that they are currently negotiating with ACRD and the State Highway District (SHD) over Eagle Road and Fairview Avenue. Currently Fairview Avenue is under the jurisdiction of the SHD and Eagle Road is under the jurisdiction of ACRD. When the Interstate Connector is finished these will just "flip-flop", said Howe. "So we actually have our approval of Fairview Avenue from ACRD, (It isn't their Road), and have been negotiating with the SHD on Eagle Road on width of right-of-way. That's were our problem is right now. Currently the SHD has that designated as a Rural Section, a 140 feet wide." Howe said. Howe continued: "Right now we are not in a position to give up that much for a right-of-way, without at least some curbs and gutters and some kind of a committment of when and if they will be build. We think that we can get this resolved eventually." Chairman Bob Spencer referred to the letter from Sheldon Gerber, Ada County Planning. (On file with these minutes.) City Attorney, Wayne Crookston told the Commission that he felt the letter "does not speak to the problem as presented." Spencer referred to the letter by City Engineer Gary Smith. (On file with these minutes.) Smith told the Commission that he doesn't feel that there are any "major problems," and "there isn't anything that can't be worked out." The Motion was made by Chenowith and seconded by Morrow that the Planning & Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of Preliminary and Final Plat and variances as requested by Upland Industries with the stipulation that they workout the concerns that the City Engineer has. Motion Carried: Chenowith, yea; Alidjani, yea; Johnson, yea; Morrow, yea; Shearer, yea; Being there no otherbusiness to come before the Commission . The Motion was made by Morrow and seconded by Alidjani to adjourn at 7:50 p. m. Motion Carried: Chenowith, yea; Alidjani, yea; Johnson, yea; Morrow, yea; Shearer, yea; ATTEST: /p ,,. . - ~~ ~ ~V m~.a,..~' Jac H. Niemann, ity Clerk APPROVED: BOB SPEN ER: CHAIRMANN MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION ~. ADA COUNTY • PLANNING DIVISION GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPT 650 Main Boise, Idaho 83702 (208) 383-4422 PLANNING COMMISSION April 18, 1983 Meridian Planning 8 Zoning Commission Meridian City Hall 738 Meridian Street Meridian, Idaho 83642 RE: Upland Industries Corporation Tentative Piat Dear Commissioners: Upland Industries has requested that it permitted to plat "large lots or blocks ten (10) to twenty (20) acres or larger... and then divide off the precise amount required by the purchaser without reptatting". This was allowed by Ada County in prior years but in 1981 this practice was stopped because it is lite- ga1 under Idaho Code (see attached letter dated June 24, 1981). Idaho Code 50-1304, Essentials of Plats, states that the plat shall show "lots numbered consecutively in each block... (emphasis added)". Section 50-1316 states that anyone "who shall dispose of or offer for safe any lots in any city or county until the plat thereof has been duly acknowledged and recorded as pro- vided in 50-1301 through 50-1325" shall be fined for each Illegal lot. The objectives of Upland Industries to only sell off the amount of land required by a purchaser is a cort~mon request of industrial subdividers. The legal method Ada County has used to resolve this problem is to allow the platting of narrow lots of 5C feet or 100 feet in width and require as a condition of the approved plat that at feast two or more of the lots must be sold to a purchaser. in this manner the purchaser may buy as few (two) or as many lots as are needed to meet the industries requirements. If you have any questions about how this is accomplished you should contact Dave Collins, the County Engineer, or Conrad King, the County Subdivision Specialist. Ada County does not allow new industrial subdivisions to be platted with each lot having direct frontage on a principle arterial because of the traffic flow problems that it will create in the future as development occurs. Direct front- age can also lead to strip commercial development (For example: Fairview Avenue in Boise). This is even more of a concern if smaller lots are sold off, with each lot owner demanding access to the principle arterial street. Planned industrial developments and planned residential developments are usually designed with frontage roads or reverse lots (rear lot line backs up to the arterial street with no access to the arterial) to minimize traf- fic problems. Too many individual lot access points on Fairview Avenue and "RE~~ttr~~ APR ~ ~ i983 Meridian P. 8 Z. Comm. April 18, 1983 Page 2. Eagle Road will more than likely cause increased traffic congestion and accidents. Then taxpayers' money would have to be spent to widen those streets for turning lanes, road medians and other transportation improve- ments which may only be band-aid solutions. Good subdivision design now will save lives and save taxpayers money in the long run. Ada County usually requires a preliminary plat (tentative plat) to be submitted on the entire land area that will eventually be platted by the subdivider. Then, a final plat is only filed on that portion of the subdivision which will be developed in the near tuture. This practice allows the Zoning Commission and Board of County Commissioners to accurately judge the impacts and design of the entire project and then allows the subdivider to develop only that portion of the preliminary plat which is marketable under existing economic conditions. Without looking at the entire area, it is difficult to judge whether a variance of the Subdivision Ordinance standards would or would not create problems. Sincerely, Sheldon D. Gerber Senior County Planner SG/af:SGt AA cc: Chris Korte File 270 1 • OFCIDIAl6 JACK NIEMAN N,GRy CNII1 • V KIE BERL inNUm RICHARD D NrDNOL6. Gn, of Rolla BRUCE D STUARi. WAbr WOA \. 6upt WAV NEG GRDDKBTON.JR., Anomay E ANI WARP Wub WAbr Bupt K EH Ny BOWERS. F,r1 CKNt HL"B OF TFEASL'RE I'ALLEl' • A Good Place to L1ve CITY OF MERIDIAN 728 Meridian Street MERIDIAN, IDAHO N64t FnoRe aae-uu February 10, 1984 GRANT P. KINGSFORD MAyor Kr. David M. Wilding Lnnd Development Engineer Upland Industries Corp. SO South Nain Street, Suite 1080 Salt Lake City, Utah 84144 couNaLrJEN - BILL BREWER RDNALDR iOLbM• J E BE RT MVERS ROBERT GIESLER BOBBRENCER DNAnmAn Zonlnp - P~anninp Dear Kr. Wilding: Re: Treasure Valley Business Center Phase I - Final Plat The following comments concern your recent submittal as referenced above: 1. Development Plans_ a. Storm Drainage. Since on-site storm drainage is handled on an individual lot basis, it must be made clear who will be responsible for design and plan preparation of each lot detention facility_ Will this be Upland or the lot purchaser? Each one must be submitted for review by the City of Heridian. Clarify by note on plat. Please furnish correspondence from the affected Irrigation/Drainage District(s) approving your drainage detention/conveyance system(s) and willing- ness to maintain those portions within their jurisdiction. b. Sanity Sever/Water Supply. These plans have been reviewed by this office with review comments from the water and wastewater superinten- dests. A re•:e~.: __tter was sent to Mr. Steve Eren}'i, F.E., on November 2E, 19b3, and sieve and I discu_sed the comments by telephone on November 30. F,e~se fern: =_t. the ..t}. wi tt: three sets of prints that e.ddress the comments ir; m} November 2b letter and November 3G telephone conversation. 2. Final Plat. a. Show a second subdivision tie distance and bearing to section monument (1/4 corner on Fairview Avenue). b. Show right-of-way dedication on Eagle Road. Ada County Highway District's previous correspondence states this to be 60 feet from centerline. c. The prints submitted, in several places, are difficult to read. The Idaho State Code requires the plat be drafted on "stable base drafting Mr_ David M. wilding -2- February 10, 1984 film" (emphasis added), which I interpret es mylar. It appears that the prints were made from a paper sepia. Please advise whether or not the plat is on mylar. d_ Change year of plat to 1984. e. Call out Section Numbers at 1/4 corner and Section Corner on Fairview Avenue. f. Show "REAL POINT OF BEGINNING" to be a 3-1/2" diameter aluminum cap on a 2-1/2" diameter by 36" long pipe. You might want to consider moving the "RPOB" to the right-of-way line to save it from street work and traffic. g. The exterior boundary line, shown at the centerline of Eagle Road, should be moved to the westerly right-of-way line unless Ada County Highway District is included as an owner on the Certificate of Owners. h. Call out the North 1/4 corner of Section B on "Detail A, shown on Sheet 2. i. The centerline of the 30' wide railroad easement along the west subdivision boundary has the same appearance as a lot line. Show as centerline symbol. j. Address sore specifically the easement requirement of the Heridian Subdivision ordinance - 9-607:2(b), "Alleys and Easements" (side and rear lot line easements). 3. Ci~_Ordinance Variance Request. a. Side Yard Re~cuirement - If a lot is sold with side lot line(s) other than shown on the plat, a note shall be added to the deed stating the side yard requirement applies to the described side lot lines. _ . P.o^'r: iej,c:_},s - Fc otiectior. tc request. c. io.a' St~ee; ~~. -fication - Nc o~jectior, to request. d. Sidewalk Deletion - No objection to request. e. Irrigation Ditch Covering - No objections to request. If you have any questions concerning these comments, please call. Sincerely, CI OF MERIDIAN ~%!<~~, ary D. S ith, P.E. City Engineer GDS:ss bcc: Mayor & Council Planning & Zoning