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%~"" MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING
REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
City Council Chambers
33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:00 p.m.
`Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn testimony,
all presentations before the Mayor and City Council are expected
to be truthful and honest to best of the ability of the presenter."
;~, 1. Roll-call Attendance:
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_X Tom O'Brien X Wendy Newton-Huckabay
X Michael Rohm X Joe Marshall
~' X David Moe -chairman
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2. Adoption of the Agenda: Approve as Amended
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A. Approve Minutes of January 17, 2008 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting: Approve
4. Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: CUP 07-022
Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a medical office in the O-T
zoning district that does not meet the criteria of the Downtown Meridian
Design Guidelines for Meridian Eye Care by Dr. Dan Thieme - 125 West
Cheny Lane: Continue Public Hearing to February 21, 2008
5. Continued Public Hearing from December 20, 2007: RZ 07-020
Request for Rezone of 10.1 acres from R-4 to R-40 zoning district for
Selway Apartments by Meridian Apartments, LLC -west of N. Goddard
Creek Road and north of McMillan Road: Recommend Approval to City
Council
6. Public Hearing: RZ 07-023 Request for Rezone of 0.62 acres from R-4
to an R-8 zone for Blackstone No. 2 by Landmark Engineering and
Planning, Inc. - 4700 W. Aspen Creek Street: Recommend Approval to
City Council
7. Continued Public Hearing from December 20, 2007: PFP 07-004
Request for Combined Preliminary /Final Plat approval of 3 residential
lots on 0.59 of an acre located in the R-4 zoning district for Blackstone
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - February 7, 2008 Page 1 of 2
All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing,
please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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8. Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: AZ 07-020 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 21.81 acres from RUT to R-15 zone for
Chalet Marseilles by RC Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick
Road and N. Locust Grove Road: Recommend Approval to City
Council
9. Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: PP 07-027 Request
for a Preliminary Plat approval with 3 residential building lots and 1
common lot in a proposed R-15 zone for Chalet Marseilles by RC
Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust Grove
Road: Recommend Approval to City Council
10. Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: CUP 07-023
Request for Conditional Use Permit for 122 multi-family dwelling units in a
proposed R-15 zone on approximately 21.8 acres for Chalet Marseilles
by RC Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust
Grove Road: Recommend Approval to City Council
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - February 7, 2008 Page 2 of 2
All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
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_X Tom O'Brien _X Wendy Newton-Huckabay
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>`~~ Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a medical office in the O-T
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Design Guidelines for Meridian Eye Care by Dr. Dan Thieme - 125 West
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for Annexation and Zoning of 21.81 acres from RUT to R-15 zone for
Chalet Marseilles by RC Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick
Road and N. Locust Grove Road: Recommend Approval to City
Council
9. Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: PP 07-027 Request
for a Preliminary Plat approval with 3 residential building lots and 1
common lot in a proposed R-15 zone for Chalet Marseilles by RC
Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust Grove
Road: Recommend Approval to City Council
10. Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: CUP 07-023
. Request for Conditional Use Permit for 122 multi-family dwelling units in a
proposed R-15 zone on approximately 21.8 acres for Chalet Marseilles
by RC Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust
Grove Road: Recommend Approval to City Council
Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda - February 7, 2008 Page 2 of 2
All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.
Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing,
please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting.
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AGENDA
City Council Cfiambens
33 East Idaho Avenue, AAeridian, idafio
Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:00 p.m.
"Altltargh 0}re CrTy of Meridian no longer requires swam testlrnonp,
all presentations before the Mayor and C1ty CounCN are expelled
M be trudrful and havrest to best of the abNity of the presenter. °
1. Ro1t-call At6endance:
Tom O'Brien Wendy Newton-Huckabay
Micfiasl Rohm ~ / Joe Marshall
.~C David Moe - ohairman
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A. Approve Minutes of January 17, 2008 Pianrting and Zoning
Commission Meeting:
4. Condnuad PubNc Heating from January 17, 2008: CUP 07.022
Request for a Conditional Use Pemlit far a msdk;at office in the O-T
aonirtg district that does not meat the criteria of the Downtown Meridian
Design Guideitnes for Meridian Eye Care by Dr. Dan Thieme -126 West
Cherry Lane: .
C'.r~n-fin-.i.e_.~+o Pv~bU'c, 1~--eu.~''inq~ `ucerz~. ~1 300E
5. CoMtnued Public Hearing from December ,2007: RZ 07.020
Request for Reaane of 10.1 acres from R-4 to R-40 mining district for
seAnray Aparimentrs by Meridian Aparbnenis, LLC - wit of N. Goddard
G~rpe~~k Raadtyalc~rd~rmrth of McMiBan Road: /aI
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Planning, Inc. - 4700 W. Asp>an Creek Street:
IZeeot~mend .>~pl~~'ava-e -~o G;`~ty C~Otc.r~`Q
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Request for Combfned Preliminary t Final Plat approval of 3 residenUai
lots on 0.69 of an acre located in the R-4 aoning district for 8fackstone
No. 2 by Landmark E:nglneering and Planning, Inc. - 4700 W. Aspen
Creek Street
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MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING
REGULAR MEETING
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City Council Chambers ~ ,,
33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. ~
"Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn testimony,
all presentations before the Mayor and City Council are expected
to be truthful and honest to best of the abil-ty of the presenter." i
1. Roll-call Attendance:
Tom O'Brien Wendy Newton-Huckabay
Michael Rohm ` ~ Joe Marshall
~X David Moe -chairman
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A. Approve Minutes of January 17, 2008 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting: ~ ~~ i,..~ ~.~
4. Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: CUP 07-022
Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a medical office in the O-T ~,
zoning district that does not meet the criteria of the Downtown Meridian
Design Guidelines for Meridian Eye Care by Dr. Dan Thieme - 125 West
Cherry Lane:
5. Continued Public Hearing from December 20, 2007: RZ 07-020
Request for Rezone of 10.1 acres from R-4 to R-40 zoning district for ~
Selway Apartments by Meridian Apartments, LLC -west of N. Goddard
Creek Road and north of McMillan Road:
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to an R-8 zone for Blackstone No. 2 by Landmark Engineering and
Planning, Inc. - 4700 W. Aspen Creek Street:
7. Continued Public Hearing from December 20, 2007: PFP 07-004
Request for Combined Preliminary /Final Plat approval of 3 residential
lots on 0.59 of an acre located in the R-4 zoning district for Blackstone
No. 2 by Landmark Engineering and Planning, Inc. - 4700 W. Aspen
Creek Street: /~~~ n
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Creek Road and north of McAAilian Road:
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Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting February 7, 2008
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of February 7, 2008, was
called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman David Moe.
Members Present: Chairman David Moe, Commissioner Michael Rohm, Commissioner
` ~'`'~ Joe Marshall, Commissioner Wendy Newton-Huckabay and Commissioner Tom
O'Brien.
'I Others Present: Ted Baird, Machelle Hill, Caleb Hood, Bill Parsons, Scott Steckline and
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X Wendy Newton-Huckabay -Vice Chair X Tom O'Brien
X Michael Rohm X Joe Marshall
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Moe: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the regularly scheduled
Planning and Zoning meeting for February the 7th, 2008. I'd like to call this meeting to
order and ask the clerk to call roll.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda:
Moe: Thank you. Next item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda and there will
be one change to the agenda tonight. Item No. 4, the applicant is still working with staff
~; on the design and whatnot and that will be continued to the next meeting on the 21st of
the month and we will continue that in order when we get to that point. There are no
other changes to the adoption of the agenda, so can I get a motion to accept the revised
agenda?
O'Brien: So moved.
Newton-Huckabay: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to approve the revised agenda. All those in favor
''= say aye. Opposed same sign? That motion carries.
~'1 MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 3: Consent Agenda:
A. Approve Minutes of January 17, 2008 Planning and Zoning
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Moe: Next item on the agenda is the Consent Agenda and on that we have the meeting
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= Item 4: Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: CUP 07-022
t,~. Request for a Conditional se Permit for a medical office in the O-T zoning
district that does not meet the criteria of the Downtown Meridian Design
Guidelines for Meridian Eye Care by Dr. Dan Thieme - 125 West Cherry r
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Hearing for the Meridian Eye Care Center, CUP 07-022, for the sole purpose of
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Moe: Moving right along. I don't know that there is too many people out here that
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description of what we are going to do here this evening. Basically, I will open a
~~ hearing, at which time staff will, then, give a brief explanation of the project. After that
~`~~~=~' point we will ask the applicant to come up and respond to those comments and give any
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gone through that list I will ask if there is anyone else that would like to speak and you
_~`~'' ''~ will be more than welcome to come up and do so. You guys will have three minutes to
make your comments and at that point, after all that testimony has been given, then, the
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Item 5: Continued Public Hearing from Dece ,
1 Request for Rezone of 10.1 acres from R-4 to R-40 zoning district for
Selway Apartments by Meridian Apartments, LLC -west of N. Goddard
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~~'a~~'~, Apartments and start with the staff report, please.
Parsons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. The application
before you tonight is a request to rezone of ten acres from R-4, medium low density
residential, to R-40 high density residential. The site is located on the west side of
North Goddard Creek Way, approximately 500 feet north of West McMillan Road and a
quarter mile east North Ten Mile Road. Directly north of the site are single family
homes, zoned R-4. To the east are single family homes, zoned R-4. To the south is
vacant land approved for future commercial development, zoned R-4. And to the west
are single family homes, zoned R-8. As part of the Lochsa Falls planned development
approval in 2002, this area was conceptually approved fora 171 multi-family unit
development as a use exception. It is important to note the City Council approved the
Selway Apartments CUP for the site on December 18th, 2007. The site is currently --
the site is currently designated high density residential on the city's Comprehensive
Plan land use map and zoned R-4. The applicant's request would bring the site into
conformance with the city's future land use map and conform more closely to the
previously approved density for the site at 17 dwelling units to the acre. Staff is
recommending approval of the requested rezone and with that I stand for any questions.
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denied, simply for the purposes if the CUP approval is not -- or this change of -- change
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a~, for the two maps matching, I understand, but that rationale is about six years too late.
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governments a different owner may, in fact, try to push that R-40 or push higher than 17
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that's signed up. Is there anyone else in the audience that would like to speak on
_ behalf? Okay. I see no one. Would the applicant like to come back up?
Bachman: Lisa Bachman again. JUB Engineers. 250 South Beachwood, Suite 201. I
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have done, so either way is fine with us.
Moe: Thank you very much. Okay.
Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Moe: Yes, sir.
Rohm: I move that we close the Public Hearing on RZ 07-020.
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~.~, Parsons: Chairman, Commissioner Rohm, that would be correct.
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development agreement, then, they would not be able to -- in the future would not be
able to change that, so, basically, it's grandfathered in? No?
Baird: Mr. Chair, sort of a backdoor way of asking the question of staff. I made a
presumption that is in the development agreement. I think that's what -- what planning
staff is saying and they'd have to go through a process to change that. Mr. Chair, do
you mind if we get a confirmation from planning staff if that's a correct assumption?
Moe: Go ahead.
Parsons: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, I believe as part of the CUP it
was -- the PUD was allowed as a use exception, so I would -- would agree that it was in
the development agreement to allow no more than 171 units.
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} y-~i Newton-Huckabay: But the CUP doesn't belong -- belongs to the applicant, it doesn't
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t~ < forward. But they are still approved for 171 units regardless of the --
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Hood: Yeah. Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission that could potentially happen on
any site in the city. I mean anyone with a rezone could rezone to an up -- or up zone
their property and potentially get some other project that isn't yet in the works approved
anywhere. What staff asked is -- and Mr. Tiderman eluded to it earlier, when -- and, in
fact, this is a good example. We have 17 dwelling units per acre approved on a site
that's zoned R-4. If you look at our map today you see R-4 and, in fact, a lot of the
people that live in that neighborhood did and felt misled, because they saw R-4 on a
map, when, in fact, there are 171 units approved for this site. So, staff felt it was --
although it may be a little bit late and we should have done this later, that was -- or
earlier in the game, this was a way to kind of clean it up at this point and make sure that
there isn't any confusion as we go forward that says, hey, this is a higher density than
pretty much everything else that's around it. So, that's why staff required it. Whether
this gets approved or denied, again, what's really the overarching approval for this site
is that development agreement and the Conditional Use Permit that allows a maximum
a 171 units on this site today.
Moe: Does that answer your question?
Newton-Huckabay: Yes.
Marshall: It answers mine. It answers my questions.
Moe: Any other questions? Any other comments? I need a motion from someone.
Rohm: Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman?
Moe: Yes, sir.
Rohm: I'd like to move to forward onto City Council recommending approval of RZ 07-
020, after considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony for the hearing date of
February 7, 2008, to include the staff report as written.
Marshall: I second that.
Moe: Okay. It has been moved and seconded to approve RZ 07-020 for Selway
Apartments to move onto City Council. All those in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed same sign?
Newton-Huckabay: Aye.
Moe: That motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE NAY.
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Item 6: Public Hearing: RZ 07-023 Request for Rezone of 0.62 acres from R-4
to an R-8 zone for Blackstone No. 2 by Landmark Engineering and
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acres from R-4 to R-8 for Blackstone No. 2 and also open the continued Public Hearing
~ ~ y,~~ of PFP 07-004 for Blackstone No. 2 and start with the staff report.
~~~ y'~ Parsons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. This is the
~~r~l~'' Blackstone No. 2 project, located at 4700 West Aspen Creek Street on the southeast
, comer of Black Cat Road and Cherry Lane. The applicant has applied for a rezone of
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lots with a shared common driveway. The majority of the development surrounding the
:=: ~', site is zoned R-4, if you look up here at the zoning map. An aerial of the site. The
I applicant is requesting the rezone approval to an R-8 zone to comply with the density
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~~`-~ the December 20th, 2007, hearing, the Planning and Zoning Commission continued the
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`e'~ ` if and when said parcel were to develop. Staff is requesting the Commission to decide if
~'`? stubbing the common driveway and providing cross-access to the parcel to the south is
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~`',-~~I' here is about in December and we had a unique situation with the property that we were
~~ ~ developing. The Commission found it as a unique station as well. It was based upon
,;t! the hardships of the property. The property met all the -- the plan met all the
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requirement. As a result, the Commission recommended continuing of the hearing in
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for approval of three residential lots and, as previously indicated, though, that this site
with approval tonight will be -- may be zoned R-8, nonetheless, that these homes and
''~ '~I lots will comply with the R-4 zoning district. In addition to that it will be in conformance
~~ with the original Blackstone plat. And with that I ask for your approval tonight. Thank
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Moe: Any questions? Okay. Thank you very much. We have three people signed up.
Lenny? Pardon me?
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Moe: Oh. Chris Todd. Okay. From the audience he said he's done. Paul? There is
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audience that would like to speak to this hearing? Okay. We have no one.
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,!, Rohm: I move that we close the Public Hearing on RZ 07-023 and PFP 07-004.
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'~ PFP 07-004. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign? That motion carries.
~~'~ MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
~~-' _ Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair? I was -- would like to see -- not necessarily an official
stub, but some way to potentially provide access to the south property.
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time and at the time I probably was in agreement, but I'm not sure because of the fact
that they got access off Black Cat for that property there, I'm not sure why any of the
three there would need to go anywhere south, as opposed to just going out on Aspen
Creek. So, I'm not -- I'm not really sold that we need that south access. That's my
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~~, `~~ Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
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~:'.r' Marshall: I'm sorry, maybe Icould -- being new here, maybe somebody could catch me
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any way that we could potentially provide a catalyst to remove an access to Black Cat in
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three homes right there driving into it, just to get down into the south portion. I think
r; you're causing more of a problem than anything.
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idea to have some -- some access to that property.
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Marshall: I have to agree that I like the thought of trying to limit the accesses to Black
Cat. I think that's a very good thing to pursue. But I do also think that creates quite a
problem for the homeowners there on that one lot.
Newton-Huckabay: It is a touchy piece of property.
Marshall: Yeah. It is.
Moe: I guess I have one question of the Commission that I have been thinking about,
for the simple fact the -- I mean this -- this project does bode well to go the R-8, so they
could get this other lot -- this other home in there and whatnot. But my concern is we
are now making that an R-8 and just like you made comment earlier, if for some reason
this was not to develop and we now have an R-8 designation in the R-4, the rest of the
neighborhood, would we not be concerned that maybe we should put a restriction that
it's this development is the R-8?
Newton-Huckabay: I don't think we can do that, Mr. Chair.
Rohm: I think that the --
Newton-Huckabay: In a DA?
Rohm: I think that the preliminary/final plat in itself lays it out that it's -- they are being
approved for three lots, they are not being approved for anything beyond that.
Moe: Good enough.
Rohm: So, that's my --
Moe: Mr. O'Brien, any thoughts?
O'Brien: Well, only regarding the drive there. I believe that I recall Commissioner
Siddoway mentioning that the burden on access from that particular lot that is in
question below those -- that plat is on the burden of that -- the people who own that and
it's up to them to put any kind of access they feel necessary to provide whatever they
put in there and that would have to be further -- far enough away from the intersections
not to create a problem either. So, of course, if I remember correctly, he said it's really
not an issue or a need to put a drive there to connect that lot.
Moe: Okay.
O'Brien: That's all I have.
Moe: Well, if there is no more comment, could I get a motion?
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Rohm: Mr. Chairman?
Moe: Mr. Rohm.
Rohm: I'd like to -- after considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to
recommend approval to the City Council of a preliminary plat associated with file
number PFP 07-004 and RZ 07-023, as presented in the staff report for the hearing
date of February 7th, 2008, with no modifications. End of motion.
O'Brien: Second.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to approve we move onto City Council RZ 07-023
and PFP 07-004 for Blackstone No. 2. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same sign?
That motion carves.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 8: Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: AZ 07-020 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 21.81 acres from RUT to R-15 zone for
Chalet Marseilles by RC Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick
Road and N. Locust Grove Road:
Item 9: Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: PP 07-027 Request
for a Preliminary Plat approval with 3 residential building lots and 1
common lot in a proposed R-15 zone for Chalet Marseilles by RC
Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust Grove
Road:
Item 10: Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008: CUP 07-023
Request for Conditional Use Permit for 122 multi-family dwelling units in a
proposed R-15 zone on approximately 21.8 acres for Chalet Marseilles
by RC Meridian Partners, LLC -NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust
Grove Road:
Moe: At this time I'd like to open the continued public hearings on AZ 07-020, PP 07-
027, and CUP 07-023 for Chalet Marseilles and start with the staff report.
Newton-Huckabay: Marseilles.
Parsons: Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Members of the Commission. Before you
tonight is the Chalet Marseilles project continued from January 17th. The site is located
on the northwest comer of Ustick Road and Locust Grove Road. During the last
hearing the Commission had concerns with the 50 foot distance between the garages of
the perimeter units. Commission voted to continue the project to allow the applicant
time to revise the site plan and show a minimum of 60 feet between garage spaces.
So, again, the site is vacant here. Locust Grove. Ustick Road. Access will be along
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the block wall along the perimeter and the LDS property and the removal of the
K'~y,Ai directory slash site map on the site. In addition, staff will be modifying conditions 1.2.4,
I 1.4.1, 1.4.6 and 1.4.16, as they are no longer applicable with the revisions to the site
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Q.~~! and with that I stand for questions.
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Rohm: No, sir.
Moe: Okay. Great. Would the applicant like to come forward.
Fluke: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission. My name is Daren
Fluke, JUB Engineers, 250 South Beachwood in Boise, representing the applicant on
}_~-_ the project. I think you're all well familiar with the particulars here. As predicted, we lost
a couple of units to make the -- the 60 foot driveways work, but we have done that. I
think we have complied with everything the Commission was looking for. To make the
`~ 'l design work, we lost two units off of this building that was previously afour-plex and it's
not a duplex. We also reconfigured that a little, as Bill mentioned, and shoved the
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Commission would just allow us the flexibility to work with staff on an appropriate
fencing for the site. Something more than a vinyl or a cedar fence. But there was some
feeling that that block wall might be too institutional feeling and there is lots of options if
they are willing to go with the stamped concrete, so -- or the decorative concrete, so I'll
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Moe: Any questions?
O'Brien: I have none.
Newton-Huckabay: None.
Moe: No? Okay.
Fluke: Thank you.
Moe: No questions, but I do appreciate you guys making the changes and working with
staff to do so. There is no one signed up. If there is anyone in the audience that would
like to come forward -- no one is coming forward.
Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair?
Moe: Yes.
Newton-Huckabay: I just want my memory refreshed. Did -- was the Widson property
that owned the little strip of land that prevents the connection be made to Wanda's
Meadow -- or Wanda's -- Wanda's Meadow.
Marshall: Yes.
Moe: Right there.
Newton-Huckabay: Okay. And, no, it wasn't -- was there any attempt to make an
agreement? I can't remember. To connect. And it just didn't fly. Okay.
Moe: That's what I remember them discussing last time.
Newton-Huckabay: I was just trying to -- okay.
Moe: Any other discussion of the Commission? I think, basically, when we met last the
items that we had concerns over they have corrected and so having said that, yes, Mr.
O'Brien.
O'Brien: Yeah. As I recall, I think the staff report mentioned something about a --
having to provide a map of the streets and I think the applicant said it wasn't necessary
because of the design of the buildings to have their own individual streets. Is that still a
concern for staff, that that be required, a map of the area as you go into the entrance of
the subdivision?
Parsons: Commissioner O'Brien, at the last hearing you guys had discussed striking
that and staff is okay with that. That's why I asked you to give me some clarification
tonight on that.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
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Moe: Yes.
Newton-Huckabay: I believe that I was the one that voiced the greatest concern with a
block concrete wall or CMU wall and I would be okay with a decorative concrete wall.
And I -- again, I would also not hesitate to say, no, let's go with the vinyl or cedar,
knowing that the neighbors are expecting a concrete wall, so -- and maybe unaware of
a change here, so -- but a decorative concrete wall -- now this was only a six foot wall;
right? It wasn't eight. Yeah. Okay.
Moe: And whoever the maker of the motion is, make sure that there is a point noted
that a concrete or block wall would be -- or that they will work with staff to verify the wall
--the perimeter wall.
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come up and they were going to do anything the church wanted, because it was going
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r„' road and if the CMU wall blocked their access, they have to have that removed before
`~" they could have access. So, if the CMU was just stopped short enough to allow access
in the future. That's my only concem. Because the church may say we would like it all
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out. That's my only thought.
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in the southeast comer. Or was it a full --
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Newton-Huckabay: Okay. So --
Marshall: Which I think is very generous of them to work with the church and whatever
the church would like there.
Moe: I think we just need to put it that they will work with the church to get an access
point, you know --
Marshall: Future access point. When they work with the church just ask for a future
and make sure that at it's future access point it -- yeah.
Newton-Huckabay: So, that our intention as a Commission is that we -- the church to
the north will take access -- what's the street name?
Marshall: I'm sorry, I don't have that --
Moe: Pardon me? Monet.
Marshall: Monet. That's right.
Newton-Huckabay: To take access from Monet when they annex to the city?
Marshall: At a future time?
Newton-Huckabay: At the time they annex to the city?
Moe: Yes.
Newton-Huckabay: And, then, we anticipate that they will give up their access that's
where? Is it just on the other side of the fence?
Hood: Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission, I don't know where exactly you're going
with this, but that is the intent is that eventually they will give up their access points to
Locust Grove. Putting a condition or something to that effect on this property really
doesn't have any effect. It's just to put the church on notice, if by chance they read the
minutes, that, hey, this is expected of you, this is our intent, but (wouldn't -- I would just
caution from phrasing any condition to that effect associated with this property. To take
that a step further, while I have the microphone, if you want, ideally, if they are going to
take access to Monet, it would line up with the same street, the north-south street that
this subject property has. So, if you wanted to specify where a break should go,
something there would be preferable. It's certainly not required. It would be just a local
street, so they could, as long as they are with current ACHD access policy could just put
it 50 feet back. But that would give some symmetry to that wall, too, and just kind of --
and it would have to taper down, too, because you don't want a six foot wall right at an
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coming, but it will have to taper down to three feet, both at Locust Grove and at an
intersection like that. So, that -- that -- that is an option for you, I guess, just driving
along side a six foot or pulling out adjacent to a six foot wall sometimes can be
hazardous.
Moe: Mr. O'Brien, do you have questions?
O'Brien: Yeah. Do we -- presuming that the church will own that property for future
development, we don't know, it's just -- right now it's speculative. They may own it now,
but who knows. I'm just saying -- well, we have got that little quagmire thing. I think
putting a notice in the minutes is great, but to whoever owns the property when it
happens.
Newton-Huckabay: Commissioner O'Brien, there is a church there now.
O'Brien: Oh, there is? I thought it was future property.
Newton-Huckabay: No.
O'Brien: Okay. Thank you.
Marshall: My comment -- and I'd like to probably clarify a little bit in that I'm not sure a
condition needs to be set here or anything, I simply wanted to make sure that the
church is aware during negotiations for the fence that we anticipate requesting them --
the church to have access to Monet in the future, so when they are choosing to build the
wall and they -- and the church in the negotiations is aware that we are going to request
that -- the city is going to request that access and that they may not want the wall to go
all the way to Ustick.
Newton-Huckabay: Locust Grove.
Marshall: Or Locust Grove. Excuse me.
Moe: And that's at the time they take annexation and they lose their access to Locust
Grove, they will take access to Monet.
Marshall: Correct.
Moe: Only.
Marshall: Correct.
Newton-Huckabay: That's our intention. Okay. So, in the context of this motion, then,
do we need to reference that or just get agreement from the applicant that they are
going to inform the church of that? I guess that's where my confusion is. Because I
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Newton-Huckabay: Okay. I'm going to give it a shot and if I blow it, just interrupt me,
then. After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to recommend
approval of file numbers AZ 07-020, PP 07-027, and CUP 07-023, as presented in the
staff report for the hearing -- am I in the right one?
Moe: Yeah.
Newton-Huckabay: The hearing date of February 7, 2008, with the following
clarification: That the applicant will work with staff and the church property to the north
on the appropriate placement and material to be used for the concrete fencing. End of
motion.
Moe: Do you want to do anything with the directory?
Newton-Huckabay: Oh. And that the property directory is not a required.
Hood: Mr. Chair, before that's seconded or further discussion, for clarification, I think
this is the intent, but I want to make sure. Because this fence is on -- fully on the
church's side of the world, if they say we don't want a fence, one is not required;
correct? That is at the discretion or the option of the developer to put up any type of
fence on the north side of that road; correct?
Newton-Huckabay: Yes.
Hood: Okay.
Newton-Huckabay: But it's only on the north.
Rohm: Second.
Newton-Huckabay: End of motion.
Rohm: Second.
Moe: It has been moved and seconded to approve AZ 07-020, PP 07-027, and CUP
07-023, with the aforementioned changes. All those in favor say aye. Opposed same
sign? That motion carries.
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Newton-Huckabay: Mr. Chair?
Moe: Yes.
Newton-Huckabay: I recommend we adjourn.
Rohm: I'll second that motion.
Moe: It's been moved and seconded to adjourn. All those in favor say aye.
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MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:50 P.M.
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MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT ITEM NO. 3'A
REQUEST Approve Minutes of January 17, 2008 Planning & Zoning Commission
Meeting:
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CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
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February 4, 2008 CUP 07-022
MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT Dr. Dan Thieme ITEM NO. 4
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from January 17, 2008 -Conditional Use Permit
for a medical office in the O-T zoning district. that does not meet the criteria of the
downtown Meridian design guidelines for Meridian Eye Care - 125 W. Chevy Lane
AGENCY COMMENTS
CITY CLERK: See Previous Item Packet /Attached AAinutes
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CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: No Comment
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
OTHER: See Attached Affidavit of Sign Posting
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT Meridian Apartments, LLC ITEM NO. 5
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from 12/20/07- Rezone of 10.1 acres from R-4 to
R-4 zoning district for Selway Apartments -
west of N. Goddard Creek Road and north of McMillan Road
AGENCY COMMENTS
CITY CLERK: See Previous Item Packet /Attached Minutes
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CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: See Attached Staff Report
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ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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Contacted: Date: Phone:
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MERIDIAN PLANNING S~ ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT Landmark Engineering and Planning, Inc. ITEM NO. 6
REQUEST Public Hearing -Rezone of 0.62 acres from R-4 zone to an R-8 zone for
Blackstone No. 2 - 4700 W. Aspen Creek Street
AGENCY COMMENTS
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ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: See Attached Comments
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: See Attached Comments
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
OTHER: See Attached Zoning Legal Description /Affidavit of Sign Posting
Contacted: Date: Phone:
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT Landmark Engineering & Planning, Inc. ITEM NO. 7
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from 12/20/07- Combined Preliminary/Final Plat
approval of 3 residential lots on 0.59 of an acre located in the R-4 zoning district
for Blackstone No. 2 - 4700 W. Aspen Creek Street
AGENCY
CITY CLERK:
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR:
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY POLICE DEPT:
CITY FIRE DEPT:
CITY BUILDING DEPT:
CITY WATER DEPT:
CITY SEWER DEPT:
CITY PARKS DEPT:
MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
SANITARY SERVICES:
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CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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Contacted: Date: Phone:
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Materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the Clfy of Meridian.
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT RC Meridian Partners, LLC ITEM NO. S
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from 1 /17/08- Annexation and Zoning of
21.81 acres from RUT to an R-15 zone for Chalet Marseilles -
NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust Grove Road
AGENCY COMMENTS
CITY CLERK: See Previous Item Packet /Attached Minutes
CITY ENGINEER:
CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: See Attached Memo from Planning
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CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: See Attached COmmentS
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
OTHER: See REVISED Sffe Plan and Preliminary Plat
Contacted: Date: Phone:
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT RC AAeridian Partners, LLC ITEM NO. 9
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from 1 /17/08- Preliminary Plat approval for
3 residential building lots 8~ 1 common lot in a proposed R-15 zone for Chalet Marseilles -
NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust Grove Road
AGENCY COMMENTS
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MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT:
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ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
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MERIDIAN PLANNING 8~ ZONING MEETING February 7, 2008
APPLICANT RC Meridian Partners, LLC ITEM NO. 1 O
REQUEST Continued Public Hearing from 1 /17/08 -Conditional Use Permit for
122 multi-family dwelling units in a proposed R-15 zone on approximately 21.8 acres
for Chalet Marseilles - NWC of E. Ustick Road and N. Locust Grove Road
AGENCY COMMENTS
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ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT:
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH:
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION:
SETTLERS' IRRIGATION:
IDAHO POWER:
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS:
OTHER:
Contacted: Date: Phone:
Emailed: Staff Initials:
Materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian.