Loading...
1987 07-07• • A G E N D A MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 7, 1987 ITEM: Ws MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JUNE 16, 1987: (APPROVED) 1: PUBLIC HEARING: MERIDIAN SENIOR CITIZENS COMMUNITY BLOCK GRANT:(APPROVED) 2: PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE REQUEST BY ROBIN-PRINDLE, PRINDLE CONSTUCTION: (FINDINGS TO BE PREPARED) 3: PRE -TERMINATION HEARING WATER/SEWER/TRASH DELINQUENCIES:(TURN-OFF APPROVED) 4: APPROVE THE BILLS: (APPROVED) 5: DECISION ON BID ON WATER LINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT: (AWARDED TO BITTERROOT) 6: DEPARTMENT REPORTS: • • • • MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL JULY 7, 1987 Regular Meeting of the Meridian City Council called to order by Mayor Grant Kingsford at 7:30 p.m.: Members Present: Bill Brewer, Ron Tolsma, Bert Myers, Bob Giesler: Others Present: Roy Porter, Gary Smith, Walt Morrow, Wayne Crookston Bob Wherry, Miriam Barr, Vickie Peugh, Kathleen Kirsch, Gale Taylor, Teresa Carroll, Phil Carroll, Robin Prindle, :l'wayne Walker, Dale Ryan, Glennie Sleight. The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Tolsma to approve the minutes of the previous meeting held June 16, 1987 as written: Motion Carried: All Yea: Item #1: Public Hearing: Meridian Senior Citizens Community Block Grant: Mayor Kingsford, we held a hearing on this application in March for a preliminary application and that has been approved and now a second Public Hearing has to be held for the final Grant application, the Seniors are asking for a Grant in the amount of $5,000.00 for which they have the matching funds. I will now open the Public Hearing, is there anyone in the audience who.wishes to offer testimony on this request for a Idaho Community Development Block Grant? There was no response, the Public Hearing was closed. The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Tolsma that the final application be approved and submitted for an Idaho Community Develop- ment Block Grant for the Meridian Senior Citizens in the amount of $10,000.00 of which $5,000.00 will be matching funds by the Meridian Senior Citizens. Motion Carried: All Yea: Item #2: Public Hearing: Variance Request by Robin Prindle: Mayor Kingsford, this Variance request for a Shelter Home in Meadowview Subdivision #2, this concern the area of lot covered by the home. I will now open the Public Hearing, is there anyone from the audience who wishes to offer testimony on this request? Vickie Puegh, 1012 Fairwood Court, Puegh was sworn by the City Attorney. Puegh, as a representative of my family, myself and the homeowners residing on Fairwood Court culdesac and the outlaying homes concerned, we would like you, the Meridian City Council, to consider our petition and comments concerning the application of Mr. Robin Prindle for a Variance to build a 2686 sq. ft. shelter home for the elderly in our sudivision. We the resident homeowners, the majority being young married couples with small children, feel that this small lot and the location of it is inappropriate for this unit. We feel a larger more suitable location should be sought and utilized. The homes in our subdivision MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL • • JULY 7, 1987 PAGE # 2 • • are all single family dwellings, the majority being 1300 sq. ft or less. Under section 11-2-410A zoning schedule of bulk coverage controls of the zoning Ordinance of the City of Meridian, it is required that the maximum portion of a lot that can be used to construct a structure on, in a R -4 - residential district is 35%. Mr. Robin Prindle requests to be allowed to use 490 of the lot. Under Article II, Section I in the Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions for Meadow View #2, Subdiv-- ison the use of any lot for multi -family dwelling units is prohibited. We urge the Meridian City Council to deny this application for a Variance by Mr. Robin Prindle to build on said lot. Puegh submitted a petition containing 49 signatures asking this be prohibited. (PETITION ON FILE WITH THESE MINUTES.) Kathleen Kirsh, 1112 Fairwood Court, Kirsh was sworn by the City Attorney. Kirsh: I live diagonally across from the proposed site, we are the senior citizens of the court and I would hate to see this dwelling be built for the simple reason that there are so many little children in that area. I think all the children would create a problem for the proposed residents of this building. Gail Taylor, 1053 Fairwood Court, Taylor was sworn by the City Attorney. Taylor: I am concerned about the traffic this will create, there are several small children in this area, and they are going to bring an excess of vans in to our culdesac, they will have commuter vans using the culdesac to turn around in. Robin Prindle, 445 Clear Creek Drive, Prindle was sworn by the City Attorney. Prindle: Some of the comments that have been made is there will be a lot of excess traffic, the residents of this home do not drive, they are people who are in their eighties, they are people who can just get around, you will not have noise at all, most of them do not go outside. The home is designed to fit on the lot, it will be an attractive home, it will be well landscaped, have sprinkler systems, will be well kept, Teresa Carroll; who will take care of the residents? Prindle: We have a manager who will be on site 24 hours a day, she watches them 24 hours a day, these people can basically take care of themselves, what a shelter home is is between retirement people and people who need to go into a nursing home. They can get around but they can not drive, they do not play loud music, but they like to hear the sounds of a neighborhood, that is why we are putting this in. That is why most of the shelter homes are in a residential neighborhood. Mayor Kingsford: Mr. Prindle, if I might ask you a question, this is the same type of home as I have over in my neighborhood? Prindle: Yes, I have brought a set of plans if anyone would like to look at them, to give an idea what the home would look like, how it will be landscaped, it will have trees, a burm in front, it will have parking on site for two units which really is not needed. The only traffic you would be talking about would be going to the store, we MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL• • JULY 7, 1987 PAGE # 3 will only go to the store once a month. Taylor: Will they stay in the house all day? • • Prindle: more than likey, I have been to about twenty of these while we were looking into it and I have never seen anybody outside. Most of the residents sit and watch TV or read. They do not need the care of a nursing home, we are trying to keep the cost down for them, the cost is about half that of a nursing home. There is only eight people in this home. Carroll; we live directly behind thisanid we have three samll children what about the back yard? Prindle: We are completely fencing the back yard and there will be trees back there. Mayor Kingsford: If I may offer a couple of comments, the State totally forbids us under zoning to stop this usage, there is no way a City could stop them from placing this in a residential neighborhood which part of the comments were directed to that, you do not think it is an appropriate place for this type of unit, State Code overrides any City Ordinances in this case, the only thing we have any control over under our current Ordinances although they were not in effect when this subdivision was approved, our current Ordinance says you can not build over 35% of the lot so that is really what is the issue here tonite. The other thing I might mention is that Sagehurst is over in my niegborhood and I had some of those same kind of reservations when they started building, it looks like a large house and it is well landscaped, and Mr. Prindle is correct you do not see those people, once in a while they might come with family in and out but most of the time you never see them. There was additional discussion on the different aspects of this home. Phil Carroll: How high of a fence will there be? Mayor Kingsford: It will meet City Code, probably six in the back and down to three in the front. Prindle: that is correct. Mayor Kingsford: is there anyone else from the audience who wishes to testify on this matter? There was no response, the Public Hearing was closed. Are there any questions or comments from the Council? Brewer: I have some comments, I am one of the local Morticians here in Meridian and down through the years I have had an opportunity to go in and out of these type homes, I think there is a misconception here as to what this home is all about by you people and I forgive you for it you are almost treating it as if these old people have a disease or something and really the only disease thay have is they find themselves being older people, who either do not have family at home to take care of them or they are not old enough or sick enough to land in a nursing home. The reason State Codes are written the way they are is so that these home will land in neighborhood areas. That is where these people still belong. I have even knoftn of instances where the children in the MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL• • JULY 7, 1987 PAGE # 4 • • make a point of dropping by these shelter homes every day, no one loves children more than older people, I have seen birthday parties held in them where the young people come in to the parties for the older people, they love to have them around, they are out occasionally, particularly in nicer weather, there is generally a sun porch or patio in back where they can go out and spend some time but there is a very strong pointed reason why they are out in a neighborhood such as yours, I really believe given the chance and like the Mayor has already stated we really have any right or ability to stop this but if it does occur, I would about bet you would come back here in a year and admit.it is fitting very,very appropriate in your neighborhood, I really believe you are coming about this not knowing what a shelter home is all about. Giesler: I think Mr. Brewer covered thing pretty well. Mayor Kingsford: Mr. Prindle, what was the square footage you could build on that lot under our Ordinance Prindle: Two thousand twenty five: Mayor Kingsford: So, for the record what they could do without ever stopping by except for a building permit would build the two thousand twenty five square foot building. So in regards to the petition they can build to that square footage without any special permits or requir- ements. So at issue is whether we grant them a Variance to go the add- itional 600 square feet. Brewer: I do admire your neighborhood spirit, I would not ever let go of that either, you have shown a lot of congeniality between your neigh- bors, your sticking together, that is healthy, I just think it is guided wrong this time. The Motion was made by Brewer and Attorney prepare Findings of Fact for a Variance by Robin Prindle. Motion Carried: All Yea: seconded by Giesler to have the City and Conclusions of Law on the request Item #3: Pre -Termination Hearing: Water/Sewer/Trash Delinquencies: Mayor Kingsford: You have been informed in writing, if you choose to, you have the right to a pre -termination hearing before the Mayor & City Council to appear in person to be judged on facts and defend the claim made by the City that your water, sewer and trash bill is delinquent. You may retain Counsel. Is there anyone in the audience who wishes a pre -termination hearing? There was no response. Due to their failure to pay their water bill or to present any valid reason why the bill has not been paid, their water shall be turned off on July 15, 1987. In order to have their water turned back on there will be an additional fee of $10.00. There hereby informed that they may appeal or have the decision of the City reviewed by the Fourth Judicial District Court, pursuant to Idaho Code: Even though they appeal their water will be shut off. The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Brewer to approve the turn- off list: Motion Carried: All Yea: MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL . JULY 7, 1987 PAGE # 5 • • Mayor Kingsford: The amount of the delinquencies is $4,362.02: Item # 4: Approve the Bills: The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Tolsma to approve payment of the bills. Motion Carried: All Yea: Item #5: Decision on Bid on Water Line Replacement Project: Mayor Kingsford: This is the project for which we opened the bids last meeting, I might ask the City Engineer to bring you up to date and if he is prepared to make a suggestion of recommendation on that issue. City Engineer: I dropped a memo in your mail, I do not know whether you have had a chance to review it or not but it looks like we maybe have three alternatives, One to award the bid to Bitterroot Construction, two, reject the bid and complete the project with City employees, three, rebid the project. The bid from.Bitterroot Construction was $18,258.00 and in the meantime I received an estimate from our water department to do that project and their estimate of costs was $16,928.00. One thing that has come to light since the bid is this is a small job and some of the small contractors do not do much public work so they had some problems getting bonded. I beleive if it was rebid we would need to change something, probably could not require the bonding: I guess I do not have a strong recommendation, there is not much difference between what was bid and what our people estimate this would cost. Brewer: This is not a large project, what I am wondering is if our City has the time to even think about doing it on the own, why was it let out to bid to begin with? Mayor Kingsford: I think it was my suggestion because we only had one bidder and it came over. substantially more than Engineer had estimated. I suggested that we look into what it would cost for our people to do this project. There was additional discussion on this: The Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Brewer to award the bid for the water line replacement project to. Bitterroot Construction in the amount of $18,258.00: Motion Carried: All Yea: Department Reports: City Attorney: In the Albert, Flying H Trailer Ranch.verus the City on the Franchise Tax suit, they are going to take the Mayor's depos- ition tomorrow. City Engineer: This afternoon I left a two page memo in your basket concerning the tiling of the ditch in Glenfield Manor Subdivision #2 I would respectfully request that you review that memo and I guess by next Council meeting we need to discuss that as to how to proceed. MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL. • JULY 7, 1997 PAGE #6 • • There was some discussion on this item: (MEMO ON FILE WITH THESE MINUTES) Giesler: I would like to bring up a letter we received from Ada County Sheriff's Department concerning an incident that occurred on View Drive We received a letter from Ted Bowers of the Sheriffs Department, one of our officers was dispatched there, Dwight Hosford, and the way he handled himself and the profession way this was done was very instru- mental in solving that case and I would like Chief Porter to pass on to him that I am very pleased with the way he handled himself. Brewer: The only thing I have is concerning our Miss Meridian, Holly Hill, becoming Miss Idaho, one of fifty girls, it might be the one chance for Meridian to get on the map, I think it is very exciting, I would like the Mayor & City Clerk to compose a letter that all of the Councilman could sign in her support, how proud we are of her efforts and how well we know she will do. Mayor Kingsford: It has been my intent that for the Miss America Pageant we make a Proclamation.for that week. Mayor Kingsford: I have two items, the President of the Chamber has challenged the City to a softball game prior to the Meridian Night at the Boise Hawks game. The other thing is I had a telphone conversation from Mr. Quintieri of the Meridian Bowling Lanes, he is wanting to have a fund raiser bowl-a-thon type thing for the Burn -out Fund and the QRU asked if we would participate in that and get a time when the Council could be there, the dates he talked about are August 11,12 & 13th. I told him the 11th & 12th would be the best. The Council had no problems with this date. Being no further business to come before the Council the Motion was made by Myers and seconded by Tolsma to adjourn at 8:25 p.m.: Motion Carried: All Yea: (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: ST: Jac# ­N-Leffanry, City Cler Mayo & Council Mail (2) P Z Commission' File (2) A ty, Eng, Fire, Police Ward, Stuart, Mitich Kiebert, Hallett, ACHD, ACC, NIMD, CDH, Settlers Irr. Valley News, Statesman tf PETITION TO PROHIBIT THE BUILDING OF A 2686 SQ. FT. STRUCTURE ON LOT 22, BLOCK 12 MEADOWVIEW SUB -DIVISION NO. 2, MERIDIAN, IDAHO. Said structure is for the purpose of a multi -family shelter for the elderly.(See attached information) NAME I ADDRESS I PHONE n V�Ru�t, lokl �f:b- 866=00A045 1us3� CA- a,ig (raliq' //�/l Fuirwovd ci' BBSz-9&qR a '1A���,00nCT S�B'•3J�o � vn�, had a 3a 3 n w n� � '�TIA-ALI U� e'er 7 4&t- VA' slsj .Q iC���►� lb53 j)EIMAR SJR. '39$3566 r woa� Ct $'�8-753 l � ®fit 114,7 Dr- .-3,7 3 a ,�► A /o L ISO asiv, % ®13 c,)4f e -o rots �+• C �4 ,;,- y -�-? ( --) f�r-C/O CO e;&%% q7 get - SIS -sir? �� .l _�J l � � � / � ��•� �1 a ��i�r r � , ;t 1 ,,..,Y. r �. `, a t ;" :3, ,� , ,ti ' r W 9 �i. r /� . �'. � 4� � yy 1 � Y� _i }. Yr•. ��.^ ��� �� . ' ... 'A . / �.� .. M: t � � „; , ud��� �ixp. �Z i`' �. � l . V ��� r.� - �1 �I _ dib. .t j _ TT My name is dickie Peugh. As a representative to my family, myself, the homeowners residing on Fairwood Ct. culdesac and the outlying homes concerned, we would like you, the Meridian City Council, to consider our petition and comments concerning the application of Mr. Robin Prindle for a variance to build a 2686 sq. ft. shelter home for the Elderly in our sub -division. We the resident homeowners, the majority being young married couples with small children, feel that this small lot and the location of it is inappropriate for this unit. We feel a larger more suitable location should be sought and utilized. The homes in our sub- division are all single family dwellings, the majority being 1300 sq. ft. or less. ijw Under action 11-2-410A zoning scheduale of.,&bulkow.covers controls of the zoning ordinance of the City of Meridian, `It'i r ecruire that the maximum portion o a o hat a used ._t nstruct a structure on in the R-4 residential dis Mict, is 3511. r. Robin Frindle requests to lowed to use o oder Article II, section 1 in the Dec.lar tion of oven conditions and restrictions for Meadow iew No 2 Sub -Division e use :1-f u or mu - ami y' we ing units is prohibite e would urge the Meridian Cit1f ouncil o deny this application or a variance by Mr. Robin Prindle to wild on`said of Pros. q8� WA -TM Ll KG JZ FPL ACG:WC- fr PMDjeC-T— PL. V14t1 l, f5 1 O raom lb1 TTmpOT GohS 7Zt4C '1or1 Co. i8, 258. -10 6 STI MAn OF GOST art vK C vq R m Crs TWWS I, AWAVLO 6to To SITrrxR.Koor — 2 RFn CT IBM A -AV -c ASTK Nc.T W ATE+ GI`ttl r-OMtSS 3. fit: Bin P"31MI-r A,. CohS&nFM D" pyOWS TWS ' P,40Jvw=-v0r AVW PW%rCjLMA ICe P GA10 R� qul R�w+sti,Ts• $Mn,M.1.EYL a1?.6 GGv�T1�u�cTOws Ylor YwvtmA'-"l )bvnn cvt9 puSuG WOOLwS P"JeCTS lDaAT kZ,tp GVHR KSY11r VV1fl!✓►GI fit. inn-OMMA Tio✓, AT r4 jdt�✓►IOLv1q W -A ci ASO Tv tiw>, ATE r4 &A10 )Z"Ul"S JU ITb 15M OF T1mb Av►10 EX)PSO S6 1:0'D VL Tk MA, 'f4S h/Om%,ID yr oeA We WOui.D JbS (AnOCK WAtTIV49 TWS W04L T 8 y wOL+Lv pp , Row ev t"Yt., Wt, Aym SurP t- ll T" IYIAr vX Ia4.4- A"n Vvo%At- p N Arvb A" Mns)o©nyL OA T� but mo S4 ptt.L of 1W Tl m Cc pro o$sE.0 E T#EVP- W0yE k MAv►sWVP • A00 MOrA" &AM COlALO LOvITf'V-r NE L0ATRr9CTQWS OP 510 DuVL W9 mis okiw%6 `nsEw►SKi pFl .o.n . (2) I contacted Don Smitchger of the Settler's Irrigation District to see if piping the ditch was their requirement. He had their secretary researach the Board meeting minutes for early and mid -1979 but could not find such a requirement. 6. I contacted Mike Preston @ JUB Engineers to see if his files might reveal why the plans show the ditch to be tiled. Mike found two telephone memos between his project engineer and the Settler's Ditch Manager concerning submittal of plans for their review and the size of pipe to be used, but could not find any correspondance from anyone requiring the ditch to be piped. Mike thought perhaps it was to be piped because the developer (Don Leavitt at that time) wanted it that way. 7. I contacted Les Slater @ FHA/VA to see if perhaps that organization might have required it. He checked his file but could find no requirement. 8. I telephoned Wayne Crookston to discuss this matter. Wayne feels the City could force Norm Fuller to install the pipe if the ordinance, in effect at that time, required it (See item No. 4 above)- Since it is shown on the approved development plans, Wayne feels if Norm wants to delete the piping he will need to come before the Council and formally make the request to delete. Wayne felt thepeople in the general area should be advised of what Norm is intending to do although the notice would not be for a public hearing per se. 0 �, 11q5 ja?o jvt76 ss -74 rsZao s��4 V�J eV 7/0 �frs�Gv� f� yv7�d'� 7- 2-9% 7- is 87 00 ,Z" 1,3 'Pcr.�„�.o�-� eamL- ILILOA v,&, � (�L - � �: � L/ �� t5�38 a 1-3 0? L� 1� I — /�d6�- Alteno�,-- kA dt a 6�-, 6990 lgS l 'rc-t(o( Cv c� J L�s�s 0100cz�" � • d�7as� t3c9s10 361�_6 OIJ �� c/ s-cl a7 33 0 7a ACL�o . .•v s'k.v. �"Rv-.v .,�.F�r1VV'ti"v� �•""w.�1rt-W. �+v'�%'�:r� d. <V'v u=•S. � .. y-o»a�;wd-b W r�av��-e+V�iYw•C°`Y•'�'ir'a'tiF}6'6"O�iro(�wibte-•►''u-•h•�i:" -$r-^ c. .... 3 ;I Ll �38q.�_ a —— Teal 37360. y _ Y!3 6 - 1 �E8 2 (o I: J -, �C,,, J, K, C, oao a ratle�liiul- Ow-�-_ _fig, /� __Vile_ �� -� . _ MnM 6�� A M; eo �� 836 �. /�' .�- S -d J �o 6Qa6 & , 605�-(� =I o�. 7 ss 37 -Eu)-? ,;&s/l '-6, , L- 1--I� l e6 . 3396- 6 390 6 7ao ?a9a �?l c� Qa�U1.�,�_ _ _ (o 6e)