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ROBERT D. CORRIE
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GARY D. SM TH WALT W. MORROW
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, waste water supt.
33 EAST IDAHO
WAYNE S. FORREY, AICP
KENNY W. BOWERS, Fire Chlef MERIDIAN, IDAHO $3642 Planners Zoning Administrator
W.L. "BILL" GORDON, PoliceChlef JIM JOHNSON
WAYNE G. GROOKSTON, JR., Attorney Phone (208) 888433 • FAX (208) 887-4813 Chairman - Planning & Zoning
Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
TRANSMITTAL TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
WITHIN THE CITY OF MERIDIAN
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CHARLES ROUNTREE, P/Z
TIM HEPPER, P/Z
GRANT KINGSFORD, MAYOR
RONALD TOLSMA, C/C
BOB CORRIE, C/C
WALT MORROW, C/C
MAX YERRINGTON,C/C
WATER DEPARTMENT
SEWER DEPARTMENT
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
FIRE DEPARTMENT
POLICE DEPARTMENT
CITY ATTORNEY
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MERIIDAN SCHOOL DISTRICT
MERIDIAN PO5T OFF.(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT)
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT
ADA PLANNING ASSOCIATION
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRR. DISTRICT
SETTLERS IRRIGATION DISTRICT
IDAHO POWER CO.(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT)
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Board) on the above captioned app rove this application. The
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BOA OF ADA COUNTY COMMiSS1ONERS
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JANICE L. GASS, Clty Treasurer
GARY D. SMITH, P.E. Clty Engineer
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T. SFIAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt.
KENNY W. BOWERS, Fire Chlef
W.L. "BILL" CORDON, Police Chief
WAYNE G. GROOKSTON, JR., Attorney
HUB OF TREASURE VALLE3'•
A Good Place to Live.
CITY OF MERIDIA~`~T
33 EAST IDAHO
MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
Phone (208) 888433 • FAX (208) 887-4813
Public Works/Building Department (208) 887.2211
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
COUNCIL MEMBERS
RONALD R. TOLSMA
MAX YERRINGTON
ROBERT D. CORRIE
WALT W. MORROW
WAYNE S. FORREY, AICP
Planner & Zoning Administrator
JIM JOHNSON
Chairman • Planning & Zoning
TRANSMITTAL TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
WITHIN THE CITY OF MERIDIAN
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by the Meridian City Council, may we have your answer by:
TRANSMITTAL DATE: ~ ~I~•9 ~ HEARING DATE•
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MOE ALIDJANI, p/Z
JIM SHEARER, P/Z
CHARLES ROUNTREE, P/Z
TIM HEPPER, p/Z
GRANT KINGSFORD, MAYOR
RONALD TOLSMA, C/C
BOB CORRIE, C/C
WALT MORROW, C/C
MAX YERRINGTON,C/C
WATER DEPARTMENT
SEWER DEPARTMENT
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
FIRE DEPARTMENT
POLICE DEPARTMENT
CITY ATTORNEY
CITY ENGINEER
CITY PLANNER
MERIDDAN SCHOOL DISTRICT
MERIDIAN POST OFF. (PRELIM & FINAL PLAT)
ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT
ADA PLANNING ASSOCIATION
CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH
NAMPA MERIDIAN IRR. DISTRICT
SETTLERS IRRIGATION DISTRICT
IDAHO POWER CO. (PRELIM & FINAL PLAT)
U.S. WEST (PRELIM & FINAL PLAT)
INTERMOUNTAIN GAS(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT)
BUR OF RECLAMATION(PRELIM & FINAL PLP_T)
CITY FILES
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Boise ID 83705 C~~~. Y ~1",= t°~~~.;~;,,~~~~
RE: 93-32-pDR/93-17-PR
Dear Applicant:
the Board of Ada County Commissioners (hereinafter
This is to notify you of action taken by
Boardl on the above captioned application.
rove this application. The
The Board voted at their August 19, 1993, public hearing to app
is determination based on the Findings oof a ctroval stedl n,Attachment
Board reached th royal is subject to the conditions PP
attached hereto. This app
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stions, contact the Development Services Department at 364-2277.
If you have. any que
Sincerely,
BOA OF ADA COUNTY COMM1SS1ONERS
vArnon L. Bisterfe t, Chairman
Enclosure
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August 19,-1993 ~~ 2 0 '~93
URE VALLEY •
HUB OF TREAS
OFFICIALS
A Good Place to Live
WILLIAM G.BERG,JR.,CityClerk
JANICE L. GASS, City Treasurer CITY OF MERIDIAN
GARY D. SMITH, P.E. City Engineer
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt.
33 EAST IDAHO
KENNY W. BOWERS, Fire Chiet MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chiet
WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney Phone (208) 888433 • FAX (208) 887813
Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
STATE OF IDAHO,)
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County of Ada, )
COUNCIL MEMBERS
RONALD R. TOLSMA
MAkYERRINGTON
ROBERT D. CORRIE
WALT W. MORROW
SHARI STILES
Planner 8 Zoning Administrator
JIM JOHNSON
Chairman ~ Planning 8 Zoning
I, WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk of the City of
Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, do hereby certify that the
attached "Proof of Publication" of Ordinance No. 680 is
a valid certified copy It was published in the Valley
News twice during the period of December 29, 1994 and
January 5, 1995.
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before me, the undersigned, a Noto Public in and for
said State, personally appeared WILLIAM G. BERG, JR.
known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to
the within and foregoing instrument, and acknowledged
that he executed the same.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and
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WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
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GARY D SM THS P.EyCity Eng
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, waste water shpt.
33 EAST IDAHO
KENNY W. BOWERS, Fire Chief IDAHO 83642
MERIDIAN
W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief
WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney ,
Phone (208) 888-4433 • FAX (208) 887813
Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
STATE OF IDAHO )
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County of ADA )
COUNCIL MEMBERS
RONALD R. TOLSMA
MAX YERRINGTON
ROBERT D. CORRIE
WALT W. MORROW
SHARI STILES
Planner 8 Zoning Administrator
JIM JOHNSON
Chairman - Planning R Zoning
Ordinance No.680 was published in the 'Valley News during the period of
December 29 1994 and January 5th 1995. The copy enclosed is the true and
valid certified.copy.
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In regards to your request of the private street
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A Good Place to Live COUNCIL MEMBERS
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk
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CITY OF MERIDIAN RONALD R. TOLSMA
MAX YERRINGTON
ROBERTD.CORRIE
P.E.CityEng
GARYD.SMTH
eer WALT W. MORROW
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, waste water supt. 33 EAST IDAHO WAYNE S. FORREY, AICP
KENNY W. BOWERS, Fire Chief
" MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 Planner a zoning Administrator
GORDON, Pollce Chlef
W.L. "BILL JIM JOHNSON
WAYNE G. GROOKSTON, JR., Attorney Phone (208) 888-0433 • FAX (208) 887813 Chairman -Planning & Zoning
Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
MEMORANDUM February 14, 1994
TO; KENNY BOWERS, Fire Chief
FROM: GARY SMITH, PE, City Engineer ,~S~y~~
RE; ARIEL ESTATES SUBDIVISION
(Private Street Construction)
I have reviewed calculations sent by the subdivision design
engineer pertaining to the thickness of the proposed private street
to serve the lots of this subdivision.
The design engineer utilized a subgrade resistance value (R-Value)
that had been determined in the Majestic View Subd. located
adjacent to this site. The number they used indicates the subgrade
to be quite substantial. They are proposing to use 2 1/2" of
asphalt over a 6" thickness of 3/4" (-) gravel. This represents a
gravel equivalent thickness of 11". Using the ACHD gravel
thickness formula for a residential road and a maximum R-Value of
6.0, as recommended by the ACHD, yields a required gravel thickness
of 9.22 inches which is less than the 11" provided. Assuming the
subgrade is this good the proposed section will support the traffic
loads. I do think it would be appropriate for a soils engineer to
look at the subgrade, once it has been exposed to proper subgrade
elevation, and verify the subgrade stability.
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RECEIVED
FEB 2 4 1994
CITY OF MERIDIAN
02-16-94
RE: ARiEL ESTATES SUBDIVISION
FROM: Meridian Fire Dept.
On 02-15-93 the Meridian City/Rural Fire Commissioners said
that the subdivision, because the lots are Five acres and
more they will not need to put in a water supply. But if
any lots are split again they will need a water supply.
The road width has been set by the city. The design of
the road has been approved by Gary Smith upon the soils
engineer looks at the subgrade and sends paper work to him,
(see letter).
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Kenny W. Bowers
Fire Chief
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OFFICIALS
WAYNE S. FORREY, AICP, Clty Clerk
JANICE GASS, Treasurer
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney
JOHN SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt.
KENNY BOWERS, Fire Chief
BILL GORDON, Police Chief
GARY SMITH, P.E., City Engineer
Memorandum
• HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY •
A Good Place to Live
CITY OF MERIDIAN
33 EAST IDAHO
MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
Phone (208) 888-4433
FAX (208) 887-4813
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
To: Mayor and Council Members
From: Wayne S. Forrey, AICP:- Planning Di
Date: 14 January 1994
Re: Ariel Estates Subdivision - A: C'aunty Subdivision within Meridian Impact Area
COUNCILMEN
RONALD R. TOLSMA
ROBERT GIESLER
MAX VERRINGTON
ROBERT D. CORRIE
Chairman Zoning & Planning
JIM JOHNSON
Centennial Coordinator
PATSY FEDRIZZI
This is a six lot, 5 Acre'perlot, Rural'ResidentialSubd~sionthat iswitl~in the Meridian
Urban Services Planning Boundary. The Comprehensive Flan allows this type of
development subject to these conditions:
A. One single.: family dtw~clling per 5 acre lost.
B. Dry line sewer and'dry line water mains are required to be sized
according to the Meridian :Sewer Facility Plan and Water Master Plan.
The sewer main is part of the Black Cat Trunk B System which borders the
south portion of this property.
C. An acceptable site (or portion of a site) needs to be reserved or dedicated
or donated to the City and Meridian School District for a future Elementary
School and Neighborhood Park as identified in the Comprehensive Plan.
D. Submit redesigned plat showing SchooUPark compliance and location of
sewer and water dry lines to Meridian Public Works Dept. for approval.
E. Submit the required Subdivision Re-development Plan showing provisions
for future re-subdivision of the 5 acre tracts to an urban density as shown
on the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map.
OFFICIALS
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk
JANICE L. GASS, City Treasurer
GARY D. SMITH, P.E. City Engineer
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt.
KENNY W. BOWERS, Fire Chlef
W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chlef
WAYNE G. GROOKSTON, JR., Attorney
• HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY •
A Gnod Place to Live COUNCIL MEMBERS
RONALDR.TDLSMA
MAX YERRINGTON
CITY OF MF~RIDIAN ROBERT D. CORRIE
WALT W. MORROW
33 EAST IDAHO WAYNE S. FORREY, AICP
MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 Planner ~ Zoning Administrator
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( ( ) JIM JOHNSON
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Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
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GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
MEMORANDUM
To: Ariel Estates Final Plat Fil
From: Wayne S. Forrey, AICP
Planning Director
Date: January 20, 1994
The Preliminary and Final plat of Ariel Estates Subdivision
was submitted and approved by Ada County prior to adoption of the
new 1993 Meridian Comprehensive Plan. The new Comprehensive Plan
included this subdivision within the expanded USPA... the former
Comprehensive plan did not. Because this plat was fully processed
by the county prior to Meridian's adoption of the new Comprehensive
Plan on December 21, 1993... Policy #6.3(b) does not apply and
therefore Dry Water and Sewer lines are not required by the City.
Plan policy #6.3(a) allows approval of this subdivision.
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Council deems so. There is nothing wrong with the document.
Kingsford: Does the Council desire to enter in this agreement?
Morrow: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Ron to approve of the consent
agreement on the engineering with Forsgren, all those in favor?
Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #4: RESOLUTION #152: MUTUAL COOPERATION PLAN:
Kingsford: A resolution of the City of Meridian and the
Commissioners of the Meridian Rural Fire Protection District
approving mutual cooperation automatic aid agreement between North
Ada County Fire and Rescue and Meridian City Fire Department,
Meridian Rural Fire Protection District, Eagle Fire Protection
District and Star Joint Fire Protection District and authorizing
the Meridian City Rural Fire Chief to execute and attest said
agreement and providing for an effective date, entertain a motion
to approve Resolution #152.
Yerrington: So moved
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Max, second by Ron to approve Resolution #152,
all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #5: FINAL PLAT: ARIEL ESTATES SUBDIVISION: SUBDIVISION IN
ADA COUNTY AND IN MERIDIAN'S AREA OF IMPACT:
Kingsford: Does Council have any questions or comments on that?
Morrow: I have questions with respect to the comments made by, is
there a representative here that represents this subdivision?
Kingsford: Becky, are you involved in Ariel Estates, would you
like to answer some questions please.
Morrow: My questions are primarily designed to inform me, this
appears to be a gray area between City responsibility long-term and
County responsibility short-term. Kenny Bowers comments with
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respect to the Fire Department which this in fact in the Rural Fire.
District.
Bowcut: That is correct
Morrow: However, the Rural Fire District has a requirement that
anything over 3 lots have a central water system to provide for
fire fighting capabilities. My question is, does this subdivision
have that system planned to be in place?
Bowcut: You mean a well dedicated to a hydrant?
Morrow: Yes
Bowcut: I thought that only applied to those lots which are less
than 2.5 acres in size.
Corrie: No, according to the code that they have adopted, anything
over 3 lots in a subdivision 5 acres or more requires a water
supply. Rather than just a tanker truck, I agree with Walt, I am
confused here where we stand in this approval and the Fire
Department needs the water supply and according to the Fire
Department they do need, the code says, they do need the water
supply. My comment here is just where does our authority fit in to
that? If you have contacted the Fire Department in reference to
this.
Bowcut: When I talked to Ken Bowers, because we had quite a few
projects within the Rural Fire area, and the comments that I have
received have been that if a lot is 2.5 acres to 1 acre in size
they are requiring a well dedicated to a hydrant which can pump
1,000 GPM. Then they have allowed some alternative sources such as
ponds or one idea was if you were in an area where there was a
creek that is a year round creek that could supply water to the
tanks in excess of 2.5 acres up to 5 acres in size they have been
asking for residential sprinklers. Now that is consistent with the
Kuna Fire District and I know Eagle Fire District is talking about
implementing that, I think Whitney is talking about it and then we
have also contacted the State Fire Marshall to get information from
them and they were not aware that the Fire Departments were moving
towards this in the rural areas. I guess one of the concerns is
the distance from the subdivisions to the Fire Station in the event
they'd have to return back to re-fill their trucks and then the
close proximity of the homes like on the 1 acre lots. Some of
those homes could be 20 feet apart. Some of the subdivisions have
compensated with additional sideyard setbacks. This particular
zone in the County requires a 50 foot sideyard setback, so all
structures will be no closer than 100 feet and that applies to
accessory buildings also. Now under the Ada County conditions
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of approval which I do have with me this evening, we do have to get
a letter of approval from Meridian Fire Department. So we will
need to satisfy Kenny Bowers and the Fire Department and their
concerns, but like I said I contacted the State Fire Marshall and
I think they are in the process of writing a letter because they
have some concerns about the. residential sprinklers. I didn't have
the conversaticn with him, the other planner at our cffice did.
And then we got some data from the Fire Academy back east on
residential sprinklers and basically what they do is provide a
buffer zone for response.
Corrie: Have you met with Kenny and the Rural Fire Commissioners
on this particular plat?
Bowcut: I talked with Ken on this particular plat, but no I did
not meet with the Commissioners themselves.
Morrow: Will you be meeting with them prior to for presentation to
them for their approval for their letter?
Bowcut: Yes, I will have to get a letter from them to Ada County
before the County Commissioners will sign the plat. It is required
as a condition for approval.
Morrow: The question with respect to the road, I noticed on the
plat it is called out as a private road, can you enlighten me as to
what ACHD's criteria for private are. Kenny's note seems to be
that it is 1000 feet long, which is outside of our, by a long ways
outside our requirements for a private type of road or a culdesac
turn around, so can give me some sort of feeling of what ACHD's
requirements for the private road or why does this meet the
requirements, how does it meet the requirements for a private road?
Bowcut: Ada County Highway District does not specify any
construction standards on private streets. That is left up to the
applicable zoning ordinance. Under Ada County Zoning Ordinance you
may provide access through a private street or a public street. In
a private street has a minimum of 30 foot easement, a 20 foot
improved surface and that particular surface in a rural area only
can be 6 inches of 2 inch crushed gravel with a 2% slope from
center line and then you have to have a 45 foot radius culdesac
turn around or other approved turn around. Now the applicant is
going to pave this one, we have gone ahead and committed to the
County Commissioners that this will be paved.
Morrow: What type of base, I can tell you from personal experience
that 6 inch base in this type of weather won't support one Fire
truck that we have, even the smallest of Fire trucks. So for all
practical purposes if there is a fire in lot 4, we can stand and
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watch and that is all we can do in terms of, and I say we meaning
the City Rural Fire Department, because we can't get there. A 6
inch base for a road on top of the types of soils that we have in
our area is not sufficient to support those fire trucks. So, does
this particular private road that is going to be paved have a base
that is designed to carry fire trucks?
Bowcut: Yes, it was designed by the engineers and the plans are
into Ada County, the Ada County engineer will review those plans.
Because we have committed to paving. I'd have to talk to the
engineer to tell you exactly what capacity the road will have. in
some jurisdictions they have us test the private streets if they
are asphalt to make sure they meets those minimum standards that
you are discussing. Now, the Ada County Engineer does go out and
inspect the street to make sure it is built to spec's an to the
construction plans.
Morrow: And he is the one that the Ada County Engineers is the one
who designed the spec's for the road, or who designs the road, ACRD
doesn't have
Bowcut: ACHD doesn't, basically the only guideline we have is the
Ada County Zoning Ordinance and we've gone ahead and committed to
doing more than the minimum requirement which is a 6 inch gravel
base.
Morrow: Well, from my perspective I would be reluctant to put any
of our guys, which are the same guys, in the situation where if
somebody was coming before us asking for a minimum spec road that
I know from personal experience won't support a fire truck, I'd be
hard pressed to give my blessing to that proposal, so that is why
the line of questioning with what the spec's are.
Bowcut: Okay, I can provide a set of plans, if fact I did send a
set of plans, I sent all the plans to the City. And I think Gary
has a set of the street plans.
Morrow: My other question goes along the same line, you are
familiar with Gary Smith's comments with respect to the
Comprehensive Plan the rural residential urban service planning
boundaries and subject to these conditions will you enlighten about
the dry line sewer and the dry line water that is required so on
and so forth, does that apply or not apply to this?
Bowcut: That is not applicable at this particular density. In
your Comprehensive Plan it does mention development at urban
densities I believe its. referenced in the Area of Impact and the
Urban Service Planning area. And normally when I was at the County
we applied that in the event of a rezone. If someone were to come
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in your area of impact within your urban service planning area and.
they are coming in with a subdivision a rezone at a R1 density
still have septic and wells then dry lines are mandatory, but as
far as this the 5 acre lots that has never has been applied in that
fashion.
Morrow: Well, it seems to me Becky him comments says the
Comprehensive Plan allows this type of development subject to these
conditions, and then condition a) is one single family dwelling per
5 acre lot, b) dry line sewer, dry line water mains are required to
be sized according to the Meridian Sewer facility and the water
master plan, the sewer main is part of the Black Cat trunk B system
which borders the south portion of this property. And then it goes
on to talk about parks and school district and so on. Wayne, can
you help me here?
Forrey: Mayor and Council, Councilman Morrow, that is actually my
memorandum not Gary's. In the Comprehensive Plan under the land
use chapter, under rural policies, its on the page 29, its policy
6.3B let me read it to you and I think in the old Comprehensive
Plan Becky you are correct it didn't apply but in the new
Comprehensive Plan my comments are embodied in the plan. Which
basically says you can have a 5 acre home site in the urban service
planning area which this is within, provided that you have dry line
water and sewer lines installed and constructed and plans and
layouts for roads are made and provisions made for future re-
subdivision of the 5 acre tract to a future urban density as shown
in the Comprehensive Land use map. And on our land use map it is
shown as single family residential R-4 type development. So the
comments in my memorandum are drawn from that Comprehensive Plan
policy.
Bowcut: But that is not the plan that is applicable.
Forrey: Yes it is
Bowcut: This was submitted prior to the adoption of this plan
through Ada County. It was submitted on June 3rd 1993.
Forrey: I see your point
Bowcut: So the old plan is the applicable plan with this
subdivision.
Kingsford: Becky, didn't the Ada County Plan though call for the
re-subdivision, my recollection is that was in effect over a year
and a half ago. The County's plan to re-subdivide 5 acre parcels.
Bowcut: That is why they have the 50 foot sideyard setbacks
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Kingsford: And an option for dry lines, basically my recollection.
again was the jurisdiction, the future jurisdictions request.
Bowcut: Like I said there have been so many of these 5 acre prior
to the adoption of your new Comprehensive Plan
Kingsford: What I'm talking about doesn't have anything to do with
our plan. That is when we had meetings with the County.
Bowcut: With the County on future re-subdivisions, at one time
they used to have you go in and you had to provide and alternative
layout on the 5 acre lots for future re-subdivision. They did that
in the 70's. Then they did away with that and haven't required
that since the 70's and you
Kingsford: They came up with another plan a year and half to 2
years ago for that same thing that I'm sure they approved. Again
that would be the County enforcing their rules.
Bowcut: I know when they did the RT zone that the intent with the
50 foot sideyard setbacks was future re-subdivision that you would
have enough room for a public street. Because you would have a 100
feet between structures which would give you adequate setback and
enough room for a private street or a public street to come into
the lot. I guess I wasn't aware of those discussions that took
place a year and a half ago and to my knowledge they haven't
implemented anything that has come across my desk and I have the
most current Comp Plan and Zoning Ordinance.
Kingsford: At the time we discussed it with the County I had some
reservations that it would ever take place, that there would be re-
subdivision.
Forrey: Mr. Mayor, Council also in fairness to the applicants and
Becky, they did not receive a copy of staff comments so they did
not have a chance to review them. In our former Comprehensive Plan
had the same policy about the dry line water and sewer within the
urban service planning boundary.
Kingsford: I guess a third point might very well be while we have
adopted our Comprehensive Plan, the County has not accepted it.
Any other questions for Ms. Bowcut?
Morrow: I have one other comment, you said that the easement or
the right of way for the private road is 30 feet?
Bowcut: Yes
Morrow: And a typical public street residential road is 50 feet?
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Bowcut: That is correct.
Morrow: It would appear to me to make some sense in these, if the
ultimate goal here is re-subdivision, it would make some sense to
have that easement or right of way done at the 50 foot level now so
there in major problem converting that to a public street at some
point in the future as opposed to doing it at 30 feet now with a 20
foot and then we the taxpayers at some point in the future having
to pay to buy right of way for re-subdivision I'm sorry for re-
doing the street to subdivision standards.
Bowcut: That is a good point, and I think Ada County the last word
I had was they were re-evaluating the private streets because of
those very concerns. You are not required unlike Boise who
requires you to obtain a waiver and show justification for private
street, Ada County does not do that. And then Eagle they will
allow a private drive for access only to 2 dwellings other than
that they don't allow private streets, so everyone is kind of
moving away. Ada County I have been told is in the process of re-
evaluating their private street standards and making them more
stringent.
Morrow: I should yield to Councilman Corrie here since he is the
Rural Fire Commissioner, some of that may have come at the request
of he and the Rural Commissioners. Can you enlighten us as to what
the rural requirements are for a private street?
Corrie: Not at this Walt, I cannot without looking over some of
the minutes we've had at the meetings. I'm sorry, I can find out.
I think you are going to have some problems though the Fire
Department and fire system, I can't say you will but the codes that
they have adopted you are going to have to have a fire system,
plugs, water of some nature out there. The comment that the Fire
Chief made on my copy is this does not have water for a fire
system. Also the length of road into this subdivision is over a
1000 foot long. So, I think that some of our concerns here are
going to be addressed by the Rural Commissioners. As far as water
supply is concerned you are going to have to come up with an answer
to them on that one. You answered my question as far as where we
are coming form here but the road that may be a problem with them.
Like I say with Walt we can't get trucks in there.
Bowcut: I can discuss that with the Engineer that did the design
and she should be able to come up with some calculations on its
load and provide that to the Fire Department to satisfy those
concerns.
Corrie: One of the reasons is with the water supply one water
tankard will not put a fire out of a house that is on fire. And
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talking about the liabilities that are involved, you know they come.
up with a tank and they can't put a fire out there is no more
water, so that is one of the concerns that they had so by adopting
that code. I guess, do we need to table this until we can find out
some of these answers?
Kingsford: I think that the issue being if it is just fire related
the Fire Department has to sign off before the County will approve
it. I think before us is whether this subdivision meets with your
approval. I guess Becky the one thing that I would certainly like
to see is a right of way be dedicated or allowed for that you
wouldn't have to go back in and get an easement should it be re-
subdivide.
Bowcut: Would you have a problem with increasing that 30 to 50 we
have ample room.
Kingsford: I think that would be-very logical.
Bowcut: I don't see a problem with that, we can make that change
on the plat.
Kingsford: If its not used if it remains always a 5 acre
subdivision you know .the people are going to utilize that property
anyway.
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I have one other question with respect to
Wayne's comments and how do they apply to us?
Kingsford: I think they don't. Given this application was made
prior to that Comp Plan.
Forrey: I corrected that, it never occurred to me to check the
history on the filing of that in terms of the County and the City.
Morrow: Did I misunderstand you say that was in the old Comp plan
as well?
Forrey: Yes, the one change that we have done in the new Comp Plan
is we have enlarged the urban service planning area and this
project was not in the urban service planning area when they
applied, now we have made it larger and now we are applying some
new policies in effect to that same piece of property.
Crookston: But it was in the Area of Impact, so the Comp Plan
applies to that.
Kingsford: No because those standards apply inside the urban
service planning area, the County has not yet approved those.
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Pardon me, they don't have to approve the urban service planning
area but their application was in prior to us changing that.
Crookston: So those standards only apply in the urban service
planning area.
Forrey: The policy I sited is for a 5 acre within the urban
service planning area.
Morrow: So we are dealing with 2 different issues here really. We
are dealing with a Comp Plan
Forrey: Whether or not it is applicable
Morrow: And the old one is applicable, but it was not in the urban
service planning area.
Forrey: Correct
Morrow: And the old Comp Plan does not require the dry line sewer
and these other things sited by you.
Forrey: It does
Morrow: It does require that
Forrey:' In the urban service planning area
Morrow: In the urban service planning area, but that urban service
planning area did not exist for this parcel of property.
Forrey: That is correct
Morrow: I understand
Bowcut: I guess I'd like to clarify this Mr. Mayor and members of
the Council when we submitted this it was right around the
moratorium time and I think the comment from Meridian was that they
would not be reviewing applications, yet Ada County stated they did
not have a moratorium therefore they would continue to process
this. So the application was sent to Meridian but was not reviewed
at that time. It came in under another name, but when Ada County
reviewed they had to look at what the old Comp Plan stated, the old
urban service planning boundary and that still the applicable
boundary to this day until the County Commissioners adopt it.
Kingsford: Our urban service plan does not require their adoption,
area of impact does, but legally I think that your project falls
under our old urban service plan area.
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Kingsford: Is the Council prepared to make a decision?
Morrow: What you need from us is a motion to approve that and I
think that I would make the motion to approve it subject to the 50
foot right of way for the private road and of course subject to the
approval of the Meridian City Rural Fire Department.
Corrie: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Bob to approve the Final Plat
of Ariel Estates subject to the 50 foot right of way on the private
street and the approval of the City Rural Fire Department, all
those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All yea
ITEM #6: PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE REQUEST: HUNTS BLUFF #2 BY
MARTY GOLDSMITH:
Kingsford: At this time I will open that public hearing and invite
Marty or his desingnee to begin.
Marty Goldsmith, 4550 State Street, Boise, was sworn by the
Attorney.
Goldsmith: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, I'm before you
this evening representing a variance request for Hunts Bluff
subdivision #2. This variance is from tiling of the ditch which is
in your ordinance now and has been for quite some time a I am
looking to fence the ditch. I believe it will provide a benefit to
the community and I'm prepared to state those reasons. I think I'd
like to show you the vicinity map at this time so we can all have
a look at it. This is the subdivision Hunts Bluff #2 right here
and in red is the Eight Mile Lateral. This is Overland Road and
South Locust Grove Road. This is Meridian Greens on the boundary,
and Sportsman Pointe. There has been no fencing in this area and
I do believe that what we are proposing will actually be more than
what has been done in the past. It will also provide us with
protection for our children and I'm pleased to be representing
this. It does fit in with the overall Comprehensive Plan. If
immediate development is not allowed to go on in this area I do see
a vacant field in the future, because it is not developable if we
have to the that ditch. A vacant field would be a worse liability
than a barrier, a fence, keeping the children out. By allowing
immediate development it will not be various to in fill later and
your developers wouldn't be skipping around finding easier pieces
to develop leaving things out. Fairness is also an issue and that
it hasn't been imposed. in the past. At this time I'd like to
answer any questions you might have.
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
AGENDA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 1994 - 7:30 F.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD JANUARY 4, 1994:
(APPROVED)
1. VARIANCE REQUEST: RODNEY BRADY AND TERRELL TINGEY: TABLED AT
JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING: (PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
2. JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT: TABLED AT JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING:
(APPROVED)
3. CONSENT TO ASSIGNMENT: ENGINEERING AGREEMENT: TABLED
AT JANUARY 4, 1994 MEETING: (APPROVED)
4. RESOLUTION #152: MUTUAL COOPERATION PLAN: (APPROVED)
5. FINAL PLAT: ARIEL ESTATES SUBDIVISION: SUBDIVISON IN
ADA COUNTY AND IN MERIDIAN'S AREA OF IMPACT:
(APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS)
6. PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE REQUEST: HUNTS BLUFF #2 BY
MARTY GOLDSMITH: (PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
7. CAROL FELT: CLARIFICATION OF WATER AND SEWER COSTS TO
HER HOUSEHOLD. PROTEST OF RATE INCREASE:
8. GIS MAPPING CONTRACT WITH ADA COUNTY: (APPROVED)
9. DEPARTMENT REPORTS:
PLANNING
A.
B.
C.
D.
E.
F.
G.
DIRECTOR:
WESTSIDE BIBLE CHAPEL ANNEXATION AND ZONING
(PREPARE ORDINANCE)
CHATEAU MEADOWS #8 - LOT DRAINAGE SITUATION
IDAHO ATHLETIC CLUB COMPLIANCE
FIVE MILE TRUNK SEWER STATUS REPORT
MERIDIAN ENERGY STATUS REPORT
TRANSITION TO FULL TIME PLANNING DIRECTOR
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
(CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE DRAFT)