Sept 10 & 24, 2002 City Council
MerKlian city Council Meeting
September 10,2002
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
ItemS:
Continued Public Hearing from August 6, 2002: Proposed
Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan:
Corrie: Thank you, Item Number 8 is a Continued Public Hearing from August the 6th,
proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan. Mr. Bird.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, we are still waiting for some finalization and some passage of some
impact fees. I suppose we could go ahead with the Comprehensive Parks and
Recreation Action Plan without the fees. We will probably have to have a Public
Hearing for the fees, am I not right, or -- maybe we should pass the fee Public Hearing
first before we do the Action Plan. I don't know. I'd like legal counsel's advice on what
we should do on that.
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, I think it appropriate that you have the
Parks Department prepared to make a presentation on the proposed action plan at the
hearing. There are elements of the plan that are related to the factors that go into the
revised park impact fees that the Parks Department has been working on, so this is
really the first step that we really do have to do that, but it's kind of which is the chicken
and which is the egg and probably best to table this -- or, excuse me, continue it.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: With that I move that we continue the Public Hearing for the Comprehensive
Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan to September 24, 2002.
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded. Is there any further discussion?
Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye. Opposed no? All ayes. Motion
carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 9:
TE 02-004 Request for a Time Extension on the final plat approval of
Bear Creek Subdivision No.4 by Briggs Engineering - east of South
Stoddard Road and north of West Victory Road:
Corrie: Number 9 is a request for Time Extension on the Final Plat approval of Bear
Creek Subdivision NO.4 by Briggs Engineering, east of South Stoddard Road and north
of West Victory Road. Staff, reason for the request.
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Corrie: Okay. Motion has been made and seconded to approve the Wastewater
Pretreatment Fees and Adjustments.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Would that also include to have the attorney draw up the resolution --
McCandless: Yes.
Bird: -- with the changes as noted by Mr. Watson?
McCandless: Yes.
Bird: Okay. Second agrees.
Corrie: Motion made and second. Any further discussion? Okay. Roll-call vote, Mr.
Berg.
Roll-call vote: McCandless, aye; Nary, aye; DeWeerd, aye; Bird, aye.
Corrie: Okay. All ayes. Motion is approved.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 7:
Continued Public Hearing from September 10, 2002: Proposed
Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan:
Corrie: Item No. 7 is a continued Public Hearing from September 10th Proposed
Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System and Action Plan. Mr. Bird.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I see no reason, unless the rest of the Council people have any
problem -- I do not know why we cannot proceed on with adopting the comprehensive
plan. We have had numerous testimony, which everybody has got a record of, and
what we were waiting for was getting the new impact fees, which have to come through
another process anyway, that really, basically, isn't part of the Parks a nd Recreation
Comprehensive Plan, as I understand. Is that right? So I would like to proceed with it
and get it adopted. I mean I have no questions on it. I thought that the Parks and
Recreation Commission did a very good job of presenting. I went back through all our
old minutes and with the plan and everything, I think it's definitely a workable item for us
and I think it's something that we need to get adopted and proceeded with.
Corrie: Okay. With that being said, I will 0 pen the continued Public Hearing on the
Proposed Comprehensive Parks and Recreation System Action Plan and at this time I
will invite staff if they have any comments, other than that -- okay. Is there anyone from
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the public that would like to issue further testimony in this? Okay. Hearing none,
Council, your pleasure on closing the Public Hearing?
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Before we do I just had one question and, David, I don't want to put you on the
spot, but it's a little hazy to me, but I remember when we had this discussion awhile
back about this plan, there was some comments from Planning and Zoning that -- I
don't know if incorporated into that plan -- it would appear to me we need to incorporate
those additional comments into what has already been presented to us as part of the
plan. Is that correct?
McKinnon: Councilman Nary, Members of the Council, Mr. Mayor, many of the
comments that we had from P&Z were of a clerical nature correcting some errors.
Some of them were clean-up language regarding sentence structure and some
ordinance compliance with the ordinances that we have in place right now and I would
suggest that those be included as well as an addendum to the proposed park plan.
Nary: Thank you.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Also, as I recall, there was some comment between the parks and the Planning
and Zoning regarding our Comprehensive Plan locations of parks and stuff, too, that I
think was incorporated between the two of them. Am I not right on that, David?
McKinnon: That's correct. In fact, there was a note that was placed on the
Comprehensive Plan before it was adopted to say that those items could float.
Bird: Okay.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Two items that were -- that I believe the staff before the Parks Department
worked on. One was that there is a pathway committee recommendation out there
somewhere that was just to be referenced and not appear in detail in this comp plan, so
there was a little bit of language to change, as well as they did some language change
to partnering with the school districts, but I can't find the notes or memo that was written
in regards to that and I do believe -- I remember seeing it and I just couldn't find it in my
material at home and it's not in the material that we have in our packets.
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Bird: It's back in the -- I believe I found it in the March 12th minutes.
De Weerd: Okay. But it's not in here.
Bird: It's just -- yeah, it is in here.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Maybe what we can do -- because I would agree with Mr. Bird that we probably
need to move this item along, instead of continuing it forever -- and, Mr. Nichols, on this
particular item would we need an ordinance to approve it or a resolution -- we need
some other action, but--
Nichols: Councilman Nary, Mayor, Members of the Council, we do have to adopt the
plan in accordance with the impact fee statute and even though I looked at it again
today, I can't remember off hand whether that's a resolution or ordinance, but it would
be a specific Council action that would be required to do that and then -- it may well be
just by resolution, but there would be a specific action required to adopt it and I --
Nary: So what we could do tonight would be to approve the plan with the additional
comments and then request between Parks and Planning and Zoning that a completed
plan that would be a part of whether it be resolution or ordinance, be brought back when
the impact is brought, so we have a document that we have passed is the document the
public would see and not a piece of a part that we are talking about now. Is that
correct?
Nichols: Councilman Nary, Mayor, Members of the Council, it's always a great idea to
have the final document in one piece and not to have an addendum of some sort,
because it's something you want to be able to give out to developers and those that are
impacted by it. So would suggest that it's best to have it in one piece.
Nary: I would move we close the Public Hearing.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded. Any further discussion? All those in favor? All
ayes. Motion is carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Corrie: Further discussion?
Bird: Mr. Mayor, now we are going to pass on it and --
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Nary: You c an move to approve ita nd t hen a sk for t he final completed with a II the
comments included in one document will be brought back and -- we can approve the
plan as presented, but then we ask for the final document and the further resolution or
whatever final action we have to take with regards to that. We don't have to continue
having hearings on this, but with all the notes and with all the comments from Planning
and Zoning and all that.
Bird: And the pathway committee and that kind of stuff.
Nary: Right.
Bird: Mr. Mayor?
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: If we have no more discussion, I would move that we approve the Comprehensive
Parks and Recreation System Plan as presented and to bring forward comments from
staff, pathway committees, to be incorporated in it and give the final draft of it, so that
we can then pass on a resolution or ordinance for what we need to do.
Nary: Second.
Corrie: That's kind of open-ended there.
Bird: Yeah, it is.
Corrie: We have a motion been made and seconded. Is there anymore discussion?
Bird: It's open.
Corrie: And then we got a person over here that got it all. Roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-call vote: McCandless, aye; Nary, aye; DeWeerd, aye; Bird, aye.
Corrie: Okay. All ayes. Motion is carried.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 8:
AP 02-001 Request for Appeal to allow gate on rear property line for
access to rear yard ofresidence from N MID a ccess road behind lot for
Todd Burlile by Todd Burlile - 4881 West Tournament Drive:
Corrie: Item No. 8 is a request for appeal to allow a gate on a rear property line for
access to rear yard for residence from NMID access road behind lot for Todd - is that
Burlile?