2001 06-26
CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
AGENDA
Tuesday, June 26,2001 at 6:30 p..m.
City Council Chambers
1.
Roll-call Attendance:
X Tammy de Weerd X
X Cherie McCandless X
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Ron Anderson
Keith Bird
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Consent Agenda:
A. Approve minutes of April 24, 2001, City Council Meeting:
Approve
B. Approve minutes of May 1, 2001, City Council Meeting: Approve
c. Approve minutes of May 8, 2001, City Council Workshop:
Approve
D. Approve minutes of May 15, 2001, City Council Meeting:
Approve
E. Approve minutes of May 16, 2001, Joint City Council I Fire
Meeting: Approve
F. Approve minutes of May 23, 2001, City Council Meeting:
Approve
G. Approve minutes of May 29, 2001, Joint City Council I Planning
and Zoning Meeting: Approve
4. Department Reports:
A. City Treasurer - Janice Smith I Finance Director - Stacy
Ki Ichenmann:
1. Treasurer's Report: Presented
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2. Disposal of Surplus Property: Attorney to Prepare
Resolution on July 17, 2001
B. City Engineer - Gary Smith:
1. Discussion of Agreement for Professional Services with Ed
Squires, RPG at Hydro Logic, Inc. to review and organize
water rights for drinking water: Approve
2~ Autumn Faire Subdivision - City Well Lot Land Lease
Agreement: Approve
3~ Well No. 21 Pumping Facilities - Bid Results: Award
contract to Irminger Construction for $213,557 .00
4. (Items Moved from Consent Agenda)
5. Ordinance No. : Ordinance amending 1 0-6-5.8.1 and
10-6-5.C.2 Flood Damage Prevention and Repealing Chapter 11, Title
11 Floodplain Overlay District (FP) Ordinance: Table Until July 24,
2001
6. Ordinance No. : Stealth Cellular Tower Ordinance:
Table until July 10, 2001 Workshopl Meeting
7. Ordinance No. : ZA 01-001 Request for consideration
of amendments to Title 12, Chapter 6, uPlanned Development", and Title
11, Chapter 17 UConditional Usesu of Meridian City Ordinance, along with
related changes by Primeland Development: Approve with
Amendments
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Meridian City Council Meetina
June 26.2001
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order
at 6:30 P.M. on Tuesday June 26,2001 by Mayor Robert D. Corrie.
Members Present: Tammy de Weerd, Cherie McCandless, Ron Anderson, Keith
Birdr and Mayor Robert Corrie.
Others Present: Bill Nichols, Janice Smith, Gary Smith, Bill Gordon, Ken Bowers,
and Shari Stiles.
Roll-call Attendance:
X Tammy de Weerd X Ron Anderson
X Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Corrie: 6:33, I'm going to call the City Council meeting regular agenda for
Tuesday June 26, 2001. Roll call attendance Mr. Berg.
Item 1.
Item 2.
Adoption of the Agenda:
Corrie: Item No.2 on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda. Any corrections
to the printed agenda that we have in front of us? Hearing none-
Bird: Well, I donJt know (inaudible). No, we don't.
Anderson: Mr~ Mayor. I would make a motion that we approve the agenda then~
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion's been made and seconded to approve the agenda as adopted~
Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor say aye_
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 3.
Consent Agenda:
A. Approve minutes of April 24, 2001, City Council Meeting:
B. Approve minutes of May 1,2001, City Council Meeting:
C. Approve minutes of May 8,2001, City Council Workshop:
D. Approve minutes of May 15,2001, City Council Meeting:
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E. Approve minutes of May 16, 2001, Joint City Council J Fire
Meeting:
F. Approve minutes of May 23,2001, City Council Meeting:
G. Approve minutes of May 29, 2001, Joint City Council I
Planning and Zoning Meeting:
Corrie: Item No.3 is the consent agenda. We have items A through G~ Any
corrections or alterations to any of the consent agenda?
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve the consent agenda as approved.
McCandless: Second~
Corrie: Motion's been made and seconded to approve the consent agenda as
stated~ All those in favor say aye~
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 4.
Department Reports:
A. City Treasurer - Janice Smith J Finance Director - Stacy
Kilchenmann:
1. Treasurer's Report:
2. Disposal of Surplus Property:
Corrie: Department reports. Under item 4A, city treasurer, Janice Smith finance
director Stacy Kilchenmann~ Item 1, treasurers report.
Kilchenmann: Mayor, Members of the Council. I'm going to go ahead and go first
and push Janice over to the side. In front of you, youJII see a big packet that is
your budget base that we talked about. What we've done is we've worked with
each department head and we've gone through every division in every
department and established the base~ If you remember, we talked about that
would be our starting point. We have divided some of the departments, broken
them down by divisions. I started to copy that and give it to you~ This packet got
so huge we decided to just give you summaries. If you want the detail, it's
available. We based this base, we looked at 2 years worth of expenditures,
actual expenditure by expenditure, transaction by transaction~ Then we worked
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with the department heads to see if there were any recurring costs that we
needed to take into consideration~ For example, we know that utilities are going
to go up so we took account of that. We also took out any expenses that we
knew would not reoccur, much to Shari's dismay. For example, the money in
there for the Comprehensive Plan, we took it out again. Janice went through and
she did the revenue projections. You'll find a summary sheet before each
department. It has the revenue projection minus the budget base. That is the
money that you should have available for enhancements and personnel
increases and capital outlay, which are not included in here yet That's the next
thing weJII prepare for you. If you could take this and look at it Any questions you
have, please call me because we have lots of detail to back this up and I'm sure
you'll have questions when you look at it~ I have a brief summary of some the key
items for each department, or changes on the top. Then I have the accounting
organizational structure. Then I have the revenues. Then we have the back up
detail. I think it's a little different format than you've had before because the first
column is a 2002 base budget. The second is your current budget for this year.
Then we have the current actual and then we have a projection for actual. Then
we have the prior year's budget. That gives you some history of a complete year
of expenditures. Are there any questions on that?
Bird: It looks good Stacy.
Anderson: Would it be possible to get the more detailed -
Kilchenmann: Yes.
Anderson: ~- and put them like in a three ring binder then?
Kilchenmann: We are going to put this in a budget book for you like we used to
put it in a binder for you~ We're going to work on that next week. I can give you
the detail right now if you want it immediately.
Bird: If you'd put it in my box, I'd appreciate it
Kilchenmann: Okay*
Anderson: It would be fine with me if when you get the book, if you'd put the
detail in there~ What I'd like to have is the detaiL
Kilchenmann: We'll also give you the detail of each employee's salary because I
didn't give that to you but we have that. It'll be their current salary and then
adjusted if we know that they're going to move to the step or get a promotion and
a 3 percent COLA increase. In here, you'll find a memo from Pauline explaining
how she came up with the 3 percent~ The next thing is, did everybody bring their
financial statements? I did some graphs on the investments. These are just
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examples of things we can do for you to look at. They're in color so they should
standout.
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De Weerd: They're very nice.
Kilchenmann: I'm just going to go through these really quickly. Anything that you
want to see, we can do. These are just examples to get you thinking of things
you might want to see. The first one is investment income. It's just a trend for the
current year of the yield~ The yield for Buffington is net of their fee. So, all the
yields that are shown are net of their fee. Then there's a comparative investment
balance for last year and the current year.. Just so you can see how those
balances change.. The second page is the long-term investment portfolio
distributions 50 you can see the different types of investments we have and the
percentage of our portfolio. Then another graphical representation of the net yield
by investment type. Then our long-term investment balances by fund. Those are
just our long-term investments9 If you'd look at those and anything else that you
think that you'd like to see let me know and we can graph it. What we're planning
to do is start doing cash projections and start investing by maturity. So, we're
going to figure out how much cash we need so we can push more of our
investments into longer term. higher yield. I talked to Bruce Moore about that. As
soon as we get the budget set for this year, we'll do the cash projection then he'll
work with me to time out the investments. So, we might be able to edge a little
more yield out of that. In the short term, I think we can move some of the money
that we have in the realliquidt the cash and money market_ We can probably
start pushing that out a little further_ WeIll meet with the investment committee
and work on that.. The final thing is, in your packet is the final disposal of surplus
property procedure for you to look at. If thatfs okay, it can be made intoJ--- I guess
it needs to be made into a resolution.
(inaudible discussion)
Kilchenmann: Are there any more questions for, or any questions for me? Janice
is just going to talk briefly about what revenue we're expecting in property tax_
J. Smith: Thank you Stacy and Mayor and Council Members. Our next property
tax will be coming in the end of July and it's projected at about 1 ~8 million~ That
should get the city through, the general fund through the next 4 months of our
fiscal year. We still have some capitol projects in the police and the parks that
aren't, will probably be carried over I'm sure. With the Superintendent had
projected their capital, 4 moths ago, he projected their capital projects would be
further along by June. We expected to pull money out of our investments by now,
which we haven't9 Now we have enough cash flow. We wonJt need to get into an
investment. The financial director will be going over those and investing those in
longer term. Some of these capital projects will also need to be carried over for
the next fiscal year but it's too soon to forecast what the carryover will be at this
time.. That's alii have.
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Bird: Thank you, Janice.
Corrie: Questions from Council?
Bird: Mr~ Mayor.
Corrie: Mr_ Bird.
Bird: Before we move off this I would like to make a motion that we instruct Mr.
Nichols to draw up a resolution regarding the disposal of the surplus property and
bring it forward on the agenda at your convenience,
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion's been made and seconded to have the attorney draw up the
resolution for the disposal of surplus property. A discussion, 2 things. Has the
Council read all the procedures and agree with that?
Bird: Yes.
McCandless: Yes.
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I just had a question~ I know there's some legal statutes regarding
the disposal of property~ Has the city attorney reviewed all this to make sure this
meets all those guidelines?
Nichols: Councilman Anderson, Mayor, Members of the Council. I have
reviewed the policy. I believe it meets the spirit and the letter of the statute with
regard to the surplus disposal.
Corrie: That answers my question. When do you think you'll have it? By the 3rd
or are we looking at the 17th?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. I would suggest we do the 17th just
because I know that Marlene's still trying real hard to get the findings and fact out
that would need to be on the agenda for the 3rd on the consent agenda. So, we're
trying pretty hard to get those things pounded out and I don't want to throw this in
the mix when she's doing that
Corrie: All right. Then 1'1) place the resolution for adoption on the agenda for the
7-.17-01 ~ Okay~
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Corrie: We need to vote on the motion. Any further discussion? All those in
favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
B. City Engineer - Gary Smith:
1 ~ Discussion of Agreement for Professional Services
with Ed Squires, RPG at Hydro Logic, Inc~ to review
and organize water rights for drinking water:
Corrie: Okay~ Engineer, Gary Smith,
G. Smith: Thank you Mayor and Council. The first item I have is an agreement, a
proposed agreement with Ed Squires with Hydro Logic Incorporated to review
and organize our water rights for our drinking water. This is in conjunction with
the Snake River Adjudication process. We're just getting an inventory of all of our
wells and all of our water rights that we've applied for and whether or not they've
been finally licensed with proof of beneficial use. Ed Squires is the hydro-
geologist that has been working with us on development of all of our wells. He
outlined in a one-page proposal 3 items that he would propose to do for an
estimated cost of $20,000. We have budgeted the money in this year's water
department's budget for that work~ SOl I would request your approval of Ed
Squires' proposaL If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them.
Bird: I have none,
Corrie: Council questions for Gary? Okay~ The request of Gary would be to the
total estimate of $20,000 would be awarded to Ed Squires at Brian Cavanaugh to
prepare the water rights proposaL
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Before I make the motion, Gary, Hydro Logic is who it's actually with, isn't
it?
G. Smith: Yes. Hydro Logic Incorporated is the company name~
Bird: Okay~ Mr~ Mayor. I would move that we accept the proposal from Hydro
Logic Incorporated for municipal water rights proposal not to exceed $20,000 and
for the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest
McCandless: Second~
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Corrie: Motionfs made and seconded to approve the request of Gary Smith on
the $201000 Hydro Logic Inc. costs~ Any further discussion? Hearing nonef all
those in favor of the motion say aye~
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
2~ Autumn Faire Subdivision - City Well Lot Land Lease
Agreement:
Gary: Thank you Mayor~ Thank you Council. The second item I have is an
agreement for the City of Meridian to lease a municipal well lot from the
developers of the Autumn Faire subdivision. Their name is Gem Star Properties
LLC. This parcel of ground is located near the intersection of Ustick Road and
Black Cat Road, to the west side and will be at a future date part of a plat, a final
plat for Autumn Faire Subdivision. It's not included in the platting of phase No.1
or No~2 but it is a lot shown in the Preliminary Plat that has been approved by
Council. DEQ requires I have an ownership of sorts in this land on which a well is
located without a plat, we cannot acquire legal right to the land because it would
be an illegal split. So, we're going into this land lease agreement. The same thing
that we did with Bear Creek for well No. 22. Then when it becomes a recorded
subdivision they'll transfer ownership to us by deeding the lot that's recorded for
that well site~
Corrie: Any questions of Gary?
Bird: (inaudible).
Anderson: What article in this contract allows us to do that?
Corrie: I guess that would be the attorney's question.
Nichols: Councilman Anderson, allow us to do what part of it?
Anderson: To buy the lot or get the land donated to us? I mean. what would
keep them from changing their mind in the mean time and then wanting, once we
put a well on there and then them wanting to set the price on the lot at something
different?
Nichols: Councilman Anderson. I believe that in the conditions of the
development agreement and the Preliminary Plat approval required that they
provide a well lot.
Anderson: SOl we're not going to build on it before we get that land deeded to
us then?
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Nichols: I think we are4 I think we have to develop a well in order to get the stuff
online and that's what we've done in other places before, is acquired a lease
interest. Haven't we Gary? I know we did that in Bear Creek, right?
Anderson: So, would that cause any problems if something happened where
this developer sold it to somebody else? Or this didn't develop then we've got a
well sitting on a piece of land -
Nichols: No. We've got, I think we1ve got it pretty well tied down. I think it was
even on the plat, it shows the well lot, doesn't Gary?
G. Smith: Yes it does. It shows it on the Preliminary Plat.
(inaudible discussion)
G4 Smith: There's also a section in this agreement where the Lessee, the City of
Meridian, can renew the lease at our option for 9 separate 10 year periods. You
know, if something happened to where that property was not developed 3
something happened to the developer and he stopped development on the
project. Then we could continue to have this lease for 9 more 10-year periods
after which time that well would probably be discarded or abandoned I would
think~ Thank you. Good question. I appreciate that.
Corrie: Any further discussion? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion on the
request
Bird: Mr~ Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we approve the lease agreement for well lot with Gem Star
Properties LLC for $10 per year commencing April 1 f 2001 and run through April
30,2010 for the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion been made and seconded to approve the city well lot lease
agreement with Autumn Faire subdivision. Any further discussion? Hearing none,
all those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
3. Well No. 21 Pumping Facilities - Bid Results:
G. Smith: Thank you Mayor. Thank you Council. The last item I have is the result
of a bid opening for the construction of pumping facilities for well No. 21. Well No~
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21 is located near the water tower off Water Tower Way. In fact it's in the park
property just east of the, -- it's part of the staging area for the speedway~ We had
3 bidders. Irminger Construction out of Boise~ Riverside Incorporated from Parma
and JC Constructors out of Meridian. The results of the 3 bids are shown on the
memo that Brad Watson put together for you~ Irminger Construction is the low
bidder at $213,557.00. Irminger built pumphouse No. 17, 18 and 19 and did a
great job for us. As you can seem the bids were very close. Riverside is the, they
drilled the well and they're also branching out into the general construction area.
JC Constructors did some work recently for us at the wastewater treatment plant
on the headworks project. They did an excellent job there. We felt really good
about receiving these 3 bids and the closeness of the bids. Public Works'
recommendation would be to accept the bid from Irminger Construction in the
amount of $213557 to authorize Mayor Corrie to sign and City Clerk to attest. Do
you have any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: questions, Council?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion on the request
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we award the contract for well No_ 21 to Irminger Construction
in the amount of $213,557 and for the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest.
McCandless: Second
Corrie: Motion made and second to approve well No. 21 pumping facilities
(inaudible) results. Any further discussion?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson~
Anderson: Gary, I noticed on here it says stand by generator set~ This doesn't
include a stand by generator? It's just setting one that we would buy separate?
G. Smith: No. That is a generator. The generator is included~ I'm not sure what
the set means~ I know they're on 2 of them but it would be installed~ It's a
generator installed.
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Anderson: Okay.
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Corrie: Any further discussion? Hearing none, (inaudible) all those in favor say
aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
G. Smith: Thank you Mayor. Thank you Council. Mayor Corrie when you get to
the next item on the flood plane I'd like to have a little discussion in that.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you.
Item 5.
Ordinance No. : Ordinance amending 1 0-6-5.8.1 and
10-S-5.C.2 Flood Damage Prevention and Repealing Chapter
11, Title 11 Floodplain Overlay District (FP) Ordinance:
Corrie: Ordinance No. 01-919 is an ordinance amending 10..6-5.B.1 and 1 O~6-
5~C.2 Flood Damage Prevention and Repealing Chapter 11 Title 11 Flood Plain
Overlay District FP Ordinance. At this time, I would like to have Gary kind of go
over this one (inaudible) because it's kind of complicated~ Thank you Gary.
Bird: Mr~ Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird~
Bird: Shouldn't we read the -
Corrie: We can, either way.
Bird: -- first?
Corrie: We can read it or you can have him explain it then I'll read it.
Bird: Okay. Now that's (inaudible).
Corrie: It doesn't make me any difference. All right. Let's don't break protocol
here. Mr. Clerk if you'll read the Ordinance No. 01-919 by title only at this point.
Berg: Thank you Mr9 Mayor and Members of Council. Ordinance No. 01-919, an
ordinance of the City of Meridian pertaining to flood damage prevention
amending section 10...6-5.8.1, residential construction by the addition thereto of a
new subsection C to amend section 10-6-5~C.2 flood ways for the addition
thereto of the reference of section 1 0...6-5 and for the additions of a new section E
all 0 f the chapter 6 of title 1 0 flood damage prevention and repealing chapter 11
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title 11 Meridian City code Flood Plane overlay district FP and providing an
effective date.
Corrie: All right. Thank you~ Is there anyone in the audience that would like
Ordinance No~ 01-919 read in its entirety. I see a shaking of heads of all the
people in the audience. Thank you. We will discuss this sourly sweet one.
(inaudible). All right, Mr. Smith would you please -
G. Smith: Thank you Mayor and Council. On page 2 of th~ proposed ordinances
about midway through the page item No. C is an addition :to the ordinance~ This
addition is what we have been, in the public works department, have been relying
on when elevation certificates were prepared and submitted to us by builders for
their homes that are located within a Flood Plane. That is that the lowest finished
floor area of residential structures, including mobile, manufactured homes shall
be elevated to be no less than 12 inches above the flood elevation.
Bird: Is that flood elevation or evaluation?
G6 Smith: I think it should be elevation. I'm not sure what flood evaluation would
be~
(inaudible discussion)
G~ Smith: I think it should be elevation. We recently, the Idaho Department of
Water Resources puts out a little quarterly news letter called the Idaho Water
Log. It's done by their local flood insurance program coordinator. In this last issue
it had an article call~d The Latest on Crawl Spaces~ FEMA, the Federal
Emergency Management Agency apparently when they formed the NFl, the flood
insurance program in 1968, required the crawl spaces be considered as the
lowest finished floor elevation~ So, in a nutshell that puts the elevation of the dirt
in the crawl space as the point of origin for elevation of one foot above the base
flood elevation. In order to keep the home from having to purchase flood
insurance. I think you can visualize that if you raise the elevation of the crawl
space dirt to one foot above the flood elevation you'd have a bunch of homes
sticking out of the ground significantly. That is where they're being built within a
Flood Plane. As it exists right now, it's pretty easily done to see that the finished
floor is one foot above that base flood elevation within the Flood Plane. This way,
it's going to be very difficult. So, I had a discussion with the local coordinator for
NIFP and lodged my concerns and my complaint about it. All he could do was
say well, this is what FEMA's rules and regs say. He gave me the name of the
region 10 coordinator and suggested that I call there. It's going to require homes
that are built, or have been built with the finished floor one-foot above flood
elevation to purchase flood insurance~ The ordinance as it's written and
presented to you tonight, I think needs to be tabled for a meeting or so, so that
this can be resolved; rewritten perhaps. I'm not sure how much luck we)re going
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to have in getting FEMA to change their requirements but it seemed to be, to me
it seemed to be a little severe. It doesn't make much sense~
Anderson: What Flood Plane are they using, Gary? Are they using the 1 CO-year
flood --?
G. Smith: Yes.
Anderson: -- or 50 years?
G. Smith: 100 year flood.
Bird: The crawl space is considered a finished floor?
G~ Smith: They're considering a crawl space as a basement, is what they're
doing, correct?
Bird: A midget can't walk in mine, let alone me.
G~ Smith: Yeah and I told -
Bird: I can't crawl in mine as fat as I am.
G. Smith: I told the coordinator, I said you need to understand that a crawl space
is just exactly that and in some homes it's a slither space. You don't even crawL
Y au just have to slither through there. Never the less FEMA is considering it a
basement. They're not going to raise the dirt in the crawl space above the base
flood elevation. All that means is that all those homes are going to have to
purchase flood insurance.
McCandless: (inaudible)
De Weerd: Gary, how are other communities doing this?
G. Smith: I donJt know_ I haven't had a chance to talk to anybody else after
reading this article4 That was Friday and I called and the guy called me back
Monday morning6 I haven't had a chance to talk to anybody else about it. He
made a comment, well the northwest is a little bit unique because we build our
homes on crawl spaces, as opposed to other parts of the country where they just
build them on slabs I guess and they don't have crawl spaces so they don't have
to deal with an area where flood waters could flow through the vents into the
crawl space and cause hydro-static damage to the supporting structure for the
home. That was the explanation I received~
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Corrie: So, a contractor builds it either on the concrete slab or they get charged
$500 a year for flood insurance that goes to the government just they can send it
back to us?
G. Smith: Yes sir,
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: Any questions of Gary on this one? He has requested that we kind of
hold off on it just a little bit until we get some qualification from FEMA~ He can or
we can.
Anderson: Just a comment. I guess I would like to see you check with some
other communities and see what they're doing because I would be reluctant to
approve this ordinance if it is automatically going to mean that a whole bunch of
our citizens have to run out and buy flood insurance just because of us approving
that ordinance~ I'd like to find out how some others are dealing with that~
G. Smith: I can do that~ Thank you.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor8
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: Does that mean structures that are already built would be effected or
just anything from passage on forward?
G. Smith: I didn't ask that question~ I didn't want to ask that question.
De Weerd: It probably should be asked~ In a way that you won't get anyone in
trouble,
(inaudible discussion)
G. Smith: Alii can say is that-
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: Unless Congress wants it (inaudible).
G~ Smith: All the elevation certificates that lIve seen to this point. the elevation
certified has been the lowest livable floor level, whether itls a basement or your
first ffoor~ But, it's livable floor area. That's where all the elevation certificates
have been based.
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Bird: Yeah.
G. Smith: Well, they're saying it's never been different. But, how we interpreted it
here and our coordinator apparently interpreted the same too. Because we had
never been advised otherwise. That it's always been a crawl space considered
as a basement.
De Weerd: So, it changed, irregardless, people are going to be effected. I think
we need to see a Flood Plane map again. I know we've seen it at one time. That
might be helpful next time we talk about th"is as welt
G. Smith: Okay~ I can do that.
Corrie: Any other discussion? I guess, as many ditches as we've got in here,
we've got a lot of Flood Plane areas. I'll entertain a motion then to hold this
ordinance until we get some answers from Gary.
Anderson: Mr~ Mayor~
Corrie: Mr~ Anderson.
Anderson: I would make a motion that we table Ordinance 01-919 until, how
long do you need Gary?
G. Smith: I should have something back by-
Corrie: We've got the 17th, the 24th -
Bird: Let's go the 24th that's a non-land.
G. Smith: 2 weeks?
Anderson: 24th of July?
G. Smith: Oh that would be plenty. Yes. That would be plenty of time. Thank you.
Anderson: So, table this until the 24th of July in which to enable Gary the Public
Works director to do a little more research on this.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion's been made and second to table Ordinance No. 01-919 until 7-
24-01. Now, you don't want to use the ordinance (inaudible). You want to use
that number then? You're just going to table the-
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Berg: Mr.. Mayor. Thatts correct. I'd rather just leave it blank and keep the
numbers consecutive as we're approving them.
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: What's the purpose in that? I mean, other than just keeping them in line?
I mean -
Berg: Tracking. Knowing when we approved them in order~ We may delay this
until the 24th but we may have a couple of annexation ordinances in between. We
kind of got in trouble with the lost numbers in the past because we attached it
and then we brought it up and it seemed like an old number.
Bird: This ordinance might not pass for another 6 months.
(inaudible discussion)
Anderson: If we're going to do that I need to probably amend my motion -
Corrie: Yeah, you do.
(inaudible discussion)
Anderson: If the second would agree I would amend my motion to remove the
ordinance number and just refer to it as the ordinance amending the flood
damage prevention and repealing chapter 11 of title 11 Flood Plane overlay
district ordinance.
McCandless: Agree.
Corrie: Motion's made and seconded to hold and table the ordinance amending
the flood damage prevention and repealing chapter 11 until 7-24-01. Any further
discussion? All those in motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 6.
Ordinance No.
Ordinance:
Stealth Cellular Tower
Corrie: Ordinance No. 01-919, I guess that will be this one then. Stealth Cellular
Tower Ordinance. If the clerk would read the ordinance by title only. Ordinance
01-919.
Berg: Thank you Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. Ordinance No. 01-919. An
ordinance of the City of Meridian Idaho providing for stealth cellular tower micro-
pole or equivalent systems to be erected within the City of Meridian and the
surrounding Meridian area of impact as an allowed use in all zoning districts of
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the City of Meridian except in residential zoning districts where the towers would
require a Conditional Use Permit and all stealth cellular tower uses in all other
zoning districts would be subject to Planning and Zoning Director administrative
approval providing for the repealing of any ordinances, resolutions, orders or
parts thereof in conflict herewith are hereby repealed, rescinded and annulled~
Providing for the effect of validity, providing a saving clause, inviting an effective
date.
Corrie: Okay. You've heard the reading of Ordinance No. 01-919 by title only.
Anyone in the audience like to have it read in its entirety. Hearing none. I'll
entertain a motion, or is there any discussion on Ordinance No~ 01~919? Hearing
none, I'll entertain a motion.
Bird: Just a minute~ Shari.
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Stiles: Mr. Mayor and CounciL The only thing I had a question on is if you want
these to be in residential even with a Conditional Use Permit? I guess you can
always deny them. Then under AT we might have a little problem as far as,
maybe it's more a definition. For example, the one that Crickett Communications
mentioned to you thatts in the A Best storage area, that's adjacent to a residential
district. Could we just put proposed in or within 300 feet~ or 200 feet of a
residential district?
Corrie: If you're going to tie it down to, rather than adjacent, to have it to a
footage? Adjacent means anything~ Footage gets closer.
Stiles: Yeah~ I mean that would seem to kind of preclude the Fred Meyer one,
the one at Fred Meyer. They're also proposing one at the Seventh Day Adventist
Church on Linder that would be adjacent to a residential district. What do you
think, Bill?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the CounciL My memo suggested this be in a
workshop agenda. I put this together and I think you know I don't have a habit of
trying to put stuff in front of you that you haven't talked about before~ When the
last cell tower thing came up with regard to Tully Park, (inaudible) talked bout
where to approve them~ Where not to approve them. You know whether it be an
administrative approval, that sort of thing. That's why I put it together because it
was out of that discussion. It was my intent that it be at a workshop so that you
could pick it"apart and you could do whatever you want to do with it to make it
work, not necessarily that it be on the agenda for adoption. My apologies to Will
because I probably didn't make that clear enough in my memo. That was my
intent, was to try to give us an ordinance so that when they come in for one of
these, quote stealth cellular towers that Shari's got something to talk to them
about. That's all. I donJt have a problem with, the adjacent part of it is probably
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too fuzzy~ You're right it probably needs to have some definitive distance
requirement~ That's why I want it on a workshop~
Stiles: That's the only thing I would have a comment on~
Corrie: The only thing, too, it says the surrounding area, Meridian area of impact
and adjacent to a residential zoning district. That could be out there on Chinden.
Okay. Council, you want to put that on a workshop-
Bird: I'd do it the 10th.
Corrie: -- the 10th?
Bird: Mr~ Mayor.
Corrie: Okay. Don't use the ordinance number~
Bird: I'm not~ I would move that we table to our workshop on July 10, 2001 the
stealth cellular tower ordinance.
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion been made and second to table the stealth cellular tower
ordinance to 10-01 meeting agenda. Any further discussion? All those in favor of
the motion say aye~
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 7.
Ordinance No. ZA 01-001 Request for
consideration of amendments to Title 12, Chapter 6, "Planned
Development", and Title 11, Chapter 17 "Conditional Uses" of
Meridian City Ordinance, along with related changes by Primeland
Development:
Corrie: Okay, well we might do this one. Ordinance No~ 01-919. It covers a
multitude (inaudible) here. Would the clerk please read the ordinance by title only
please?
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: I donJt think I remember discussing this one either.
Bird: Yeah, we did.
Corrie: Did we? I didn't~ Okay. Go ahead.
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Berg: Ordinance No. 01-919. I got the number right. An ordinance of the City of
Meridian amending section 2 definitions of chapter 2 title 11 providing for
additional definitions, deletion of definitions and revising definitions and
amending subsection of E3 of section 3 of chapter 3 title 11 to add additional
language to delete language and amending section 3 of chapter 4 as titled to
delete language and add a new sub paragraph C and amending section 2 of
chapter 7 and title 11 to add language and delete language and amending
subsection B7 of section 5 of chapter 13 of title 11 to add language and delete
language and amending section 1 of chapter 8 of title 11 of the zoning schedule
of use control to add definitions and delete definitions and repealing chapter 17
of title 11 conditional uses, zoning regulations and chapter 6 of title 12 planned
development subdivision and development of the Meridian City Code. Providing
for conflicts to be repealed, rescinded and annulled. Providing for the validity.
Providing a savings clause and providing an effective date.
Corrie: Okay ~ You've heard the reading of the ordi nance by title only. Is there
anyone in the audience who would like to have it read in its entirety at this point?
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: No.
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: If you do, you have to read it
Anderson: It's only going to take forever.
Corrie: Okay. Is this Shari's? Is this yours?
Bird: I think it's Becky's.
Corrie: I don't think it's Becky's. Okay. Council has some questions on these~
Bird: I don't know if any if the Council has read this.
De Weerd: I have.
McCandless: I have.
Corrie: I've read it and gone over it a couple times with Shari.
Bird: I read it but not word for word. I skimmed it~
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council.
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Corrie: Adult entertainment?
(inaudible discussion)
***End of Side One***
Bird: -- under commercial. We took care of that with an ordinance not 3 years
ago, didn't we?
Corrie: We did as far as, what they could have-
Bird: What they could have and where they could have it.
Corrie: But where is it adult entertainment.
De Weerd: We just changed where they could have it a year ago.
Bird: Yeah, I guess that was just a year ago, wasn't it?
De Weerd: Mr~ Mayor.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I guess, in our last discussion, you know I was looking at it in
terms of trying to work some of the changes that will be needed in addition with
the new comp plan into this~ But now I understand you can't do that yet. I guess
those were a lot of my concerns. There were a couple of things that were still yet
to be - I didn't know if they were resolved between staff and the author of this.
They were mainly dealing with the open space issues. Also if Council has really
taken a look at this zoning schedule of use control and what is going to require
Conditional Use Permits and what won't~ If this is even the time to be looking at it
and making changes to that~ Is this the time to do that?
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: Mr. Nichols~
De Weerd: That might be something we want to do when we come through with
the changes for the camp plan. I just know there's things for Old Town that were
being considered to take them out of conditional use and making them permitted.
Stiles: That's a whole other issue.
Nichols: Mr~ Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Nichols~
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Nichols: Mr. Mayor and Council. The history of this was that there were
(inaudible) in the development community that wanted to see changes in our
planned development ordinance to facilitate some of the things that they wanted
to do which they couldn't do under the current code. That was the genesis for
these revisions. They put that together, worked with the Planning and Zoning
Department, worked with Planning and Zoning Commission and came up with a
proposal which was forwarded on to the Council for approval but it wasn't in
ordinance form. I believe that those changes and all of those things were
reviewed by the Council at a previous meeting. So, all this does is put it in
ordinance form unless I've missed some or made some typos or that sort of
thing. But, we did our best to try to get it in ordinance form~ It's specifically
designed just to limit on the planned development. Some of the things that
you're, that Councilwoman de Weerd's talking about in terms of when do we
have Conditional Use Permits and some of these other things like Old Town. All
of those things are legitimate questions. This was not intended to be a complete
overhaul of the zoning ordinance or the subdivision ordinance~ It was only
intended to be changes to the planned development part of the ordinance only.
Passage of this doesn't mean that you can't change those other things later. I
mean, it's natural to want to try to improve it, make it better and make it fit more
or maybe reduce the time we spend sitting up here on Tuesday evenings and the
P&Z Commission on Thursday evenings and that sort of thing. Just for
background that this was a pretty limited issue.
De Weerd: Well, when you give us a big thick document to read, you know~ you
tend to get over zealous about other issues that have been a thorn in your side
for a while. I realize after our last discussion that many changes are going to be
needed with the comp plan. So, A lot of this probably should be looked at then. I
guess I still have questions on the planned development standards, and I'm
looking at myoid copy. I don't know if the page numbers changed. On page 52,
12..6~2 B if it was resolved on the private active recreational facilities. That one
about the 20 percent of the total project devoted to uses permitted by the .
exemption which is 12-6-3 too on page 54. Then the last issue, I didn't know if
resolution has been made on page 57, 12-6-6 No.7 regarding the density bonus
and how it's used by fire station, parks and public schools and that sort of thing.
Corrie: Shari, comment?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council. Councilwoman de Weerd. I'll cover the last one
first I guess. We did have some discussion about the residential density bonus.
When Planning and Zoning Commission looked at it and when I ran through a
few different scenarios, there could have been some instances when it may have
been artificially - the development may have been artificially laid out to get a very
high density~ It would have only been possible under certain circumstances. I
Believe, and Becky Bowcutt, who is here tonight, how this read at first was that
they would be allowed the same number of units that they would have been
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permitted to have on that land. Say for example, they had 40 acres and they
gave 10 acres for an elementary school. They would have been able to have 4
units per acre for that 1 0 acres~ So, they would have been able to have an
additional 40 units in the overall development on the other 30 acres. How it reads
now is that, on the 30 acres where they would be allowed to have 120 units, they
.could now have 132?
Bird: 1434
Stiles: Where is it? So, another 12.
Bird: 132 units.
Stiles: 132 units. I believe Miss Bowcutt has gone over this with the building
contractor's association. They had no comment. They seem to support it I guess
by their lack of comment on it. OthelWise I would think they would be here. But,
we were just trying to find some way to encourage and give some incentive for
the dedication of that land. Now, it doesn't mean donation, it just means,
dedication and what we would consider dedication at pre...development prices,
not at an inflated price. They can give us documentation of that when they make
the dedication. We can usually verify that because it's either going to be the city
that's receiving the property or it's going to be the school district. Maybe, if you
want to ask Becky something about that. She's here and available. Does that not
make any sense to you?
Corrie: It still keeps it under the 10 percent though, right?
Stiles: It gives them an additional 1 0 percent so they can have an additional 1 0
percent of the units that they would be allowed to have on the undedicated
portion of the property. So, if they had 11 0 acres, they would be allowed an
additional 40, 44?
De Weerd: And that's over and above the required open space that they're
already getting?
Stiles: Yes. They won't get around the requirement for open space.
De Weerd: So, that would be(inaudible)-
Stiles: A minimum of 5 percent.
De Weerd: Right, over and above.
Stiles: Right. It won't be counted as part of their open space, the schoolyard will
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De Weerd: So, when you get into the splitting hairs on what is pre-
development cost? It seems that there's a lot of difference in what people think
pre-development cost is. What is that?
Stiles: That's the cost they paid for the property before they put any money into
the dirt at aiL It's what they paid for the property.
De Weerd: Okay~ And that is known that it's pre-development? Or should that be
in this?
Stiles: Well, it also says the density may be given. It doesn't require it to be
given~
De Weerd: Weill yeah the developer may not even plan those extra units. I would
like to have that pre-development cost in there~ Probably in the definitions.
Stiles: So, we could add, for dedications of land at pre-development cost.
De Weerd: Okay.
(inaudible discussion)
Nichols: Tell me exactly where you're looking please~
De Weerd: Page 57, No_ 7~
Nichols: Okay. So, we're talking about section 12-6-7?
De Weerd: No, the one above that~ The last paragraph above it
Nichols: Okay~ Excuse me.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor, CounciL Becky also added at pre-development cost or gifted.
Nichols: less
Stiles: Or less?
Nichols: Less than or equal to.
De Weerd: And gifted. Definitely like it gifted.
Stiles: Or less because some of the developers would be able to get a tax write
off for that~ I think what might be a little confusing is this looks so huge. I don't
know if any of you got a copy of the one that I prepared that just showed the
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changes only. So, it looks a little imposing when you see all of this~ In order to get
it in ordinance form it had to include all of the definitions.
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De Weerd: Okay~ So, how about on page - did anyone else have more issues on
the pre-development costs or less or all of that stuff? On page 54, 12-6-3 No.2,
on the 20 percent of the total area.
Stiles: I'm sorry9 What was your question on that one?
De Weerd: There was an issue on it and I'll have to look at my other notes.
Stiles: We talked about the 20 percent at Planning and Zoning Commission too.
That's a maximum. They don't have to agree to 20 percent. Say they come in
with a development and they're not proposing a use that's like neighborhood type
convenience or it just doesn't work with the overall development. It's not a good
development. They still donJt have to approve it They can say well, you know 20
percent is too much.. Maybe 5 percent or 10 percent.
De Weerd: Okay~ So, that's why the no more than-
Stiles: Yeah.
De Weerd: It's kind of scary saying a number because that's the one they always
go for.
(inaudible discussion)
Stiles: It's all under conditional use.
Bird: That's right~ It says right there, commission or council.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: The other one was on page 52, 12-6-2..,A-3-B~
Stiles: 3-8?
De Weerd: 3-8.
Bird: 3...8, private.
Stiles: 1'm sorry9 What was your question on that one?
De Weerd: That is, when they list recreational facilities, is this implying that
that's part of the 5 percent?
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Stiles: No.
De Weerd: Okay~ So that would be in addition to-
Stiles: 5 percent will be required regardless.
Anderson: It's referring to that they have to have 2 of these (inaudible) --.
Bird: 2 or more of the following amenities. That don't include the 5 percent at all.
(inaudible discussion)
Bird: Yeah, it says right there.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: SOt but these could be within the 5 percent open space, like picnic
area or basketball court or swimming pool?
Bird: It won't count.
(inaudible discussion)
Bird: They won't count as the 5 percent~ 5 percent (inaudible) and will not be
counted as an amenity.
Corrie: Becky, is that the way you read that? We'll get yours since you're the
one that (inaudible).
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, 12715 West Edna Court~ They've got to satisfy at least
2 of these amenities. The 5 percent in your landscape ordinance is mandatory for
all single-family residential developments. 10 percent is mandatory for multi
family developments. So, what we wanted to make sure that didn't happen is that
the 5 percentt people would say that's one of my amenities. If they double it, if
they go from 5 to 10, that is and amenity and then they would still in addition to
that have to provide tennis court or a swimming pool. It can be on that 10 percent
or on that 5 percent. For the privilege of doing the PUD and having the versatility
of this ordinance, they have to provide more than the minimum. The minimum is
5 percent regardless. I guess my only concern is we've got brackets, 5 percent
landscape open space is mandatory for all developments and will not be counted
as an amenity~ In the multi family developments it says 10. I just don't want any
confusion or contradiction between your landscape ordinance or this. I don't
know if Mr. Nichols sees it in the city's best interest that they delineate between
single family residential development s and multi family residential developments.
I don't know. Do you see what I'm getting at~ An applicant can come in with an
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apartment complex and say well it says right here. 1'm doing a tennis court and a
clubhouse, therefor I don't need 10 percent. I guess that was my only concern~
Stiles: Mr~ Mayor~
Corrie: Now that you brought it up_ That definitely will too~
(inaudible discussion)
Bowcutt: Then the staff says but it's in the landscape ordinance and then the
applicant says but it says right here~ You know how some people are. I just think
we ought to clarify that
(inaudible discussion)
Bowcutt: 1 0 percent. A mandatory 1 0 percent.
(inaudible discussion)
Bowcutt: It sounds good to me.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor. Let me ask, some alternative wording that doesn't tie down
the percentage. Simply says landscape open space is mandatory for all
developments and the landscape ordinance minimum will not be counted as an
amenity. That way it-
Bowcutt: That's excellent~ That covers both of them. That makes the person have
to go back to your landscape ordinance and make sure they're in compliance.
(inaudible discussion)
Bowcutt: That would be great. I just want to make sure -I guess I don't to see
them do 15 percent, 5 and 1 0, so, you're not interpreting it that way are you
Councilwoman de Weerd?
De Weerd: No~ But I didn't know how A and B were working together. The
clarity you've added there is very helpful.
Bowcutt: Okay ~
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: It was easy to read what I wanted into it. I saw it would be easy to
read what someone lesser would want to do with it too~ I think that satisfies that
concern.
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Corrie: So, Mr~ Nicholsr where are w heading and what are we saying where?
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Bird: Page 52.
Corrie: Just the A?
(inaudible discussion)
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. Under 12-6-2 A.3~a we would take
the parenthesis statement and that statement would now read landscaped open
space is mandatory for all developments and the minimum landscape ordinance
requirements will not be counted as an amenity. Thatfs what I would propose.
You tell me if that's what you like.
Bird: It sounds good_
De Weerd: I really think it works.
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: Any other things that you would like to have the attorney change?
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: Okay~ Hearing none, how do you want to do it? Do you want to have the
attorney make the changes and okay it now or wait until you see it and do it the
24th? Or you can do it earlier.
Bird: Let's go ahead and pass it with the changes. (inaudible)~
Corrie: Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor. You can have a motion to amend the ordinance and then
pass the amended one or we can put on July 3rd and I can have a clean one to
you this week~ I mean it won't take just ~-~ At this point, since all we're talking
about, I think we've got 2 changes you want to see. One is in 12-6~6.A~7 and the
other one is in 12-6-2~A.3.a and that way it can still be done ahead of your
discussion on Bridgetower.
De Weerd: Okay. Well, I don't have a problem with just amending it.
Nichols: Okay. It's just I have to get the clean copy to Will for the signatures.
We'll get her done. Mr. Mayor. I would propose that the language that you
wanted at 12-6-6.A.7 which is on page 57. At the end of that first sentence, insert
this phrase, provided to the public entity at a cost less than or equal to the
applicant's pre-development cost for that land.
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De Weerd: Or gifted.
Nichols: Well, that's less than.
Bird: That's part of it.
De Weerd: Well, I'd still like that subliminal thing in there.
Bird: They're going to gift and we're not going to read that paragraph.
Nichols: Okay. How about this then, provided to the public entity by donation or
at a cost less than or equal to the applicant's pre-development cost of the land.
De Weerd: That sounds excellent. Thank you very much.
Corrie: I would think if (inaudible)~
De Weerd: I'm very cheap you know.
Corrie: Well, okay. In that case (inaudible). Then we have the 2 amendments on
page 52 and 57 as stated by the attorney -
De Weerd: And in any way we can advocate partnerships and donations, I
really strongly advocate that.
Corrie: Okay~ The changes, amendments? Hearing none, I'll entertain a motion
for approval with the amendments as stated in the motion.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we accept the amendments as stated on page 52 and 57
as stated so clearly by our attorney and be added to the ordinance.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and second to approve the ordinance No. 01-
919 with the amendments on page 52 and page 57 as stated by the attorney. For
the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest.
Bird: The Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest_
Nichols: Mr~ Mayor~
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Corrie: Yes, Mr. Nichols.
Nichols: Technically the motion was just to amend this draft and then there
would be a motion to adopt with a typical suspension of the rules.
Bird: He's telling me I have to do an amendment first. Then we can adopt it.
Corrie: Then the motion is-
Bird: Just to amend it
Corrie: ..- approval of the amendments on Ordinance No. 01...919. Any further
discussion? Hearing noneJ All those in favor of the amendments to the ordinance
say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Now, with that approved, I will entertain a motion to approve Ordinance
No. 01...919 with a suspension of the rules.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we adopt Ordinance 01-919 with the amendments and a
suspension of the rules and for the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion's been made and seconded to approve Ordinance No. 01-
919 with the amendments, the Mayor to sign and the clerk to attest. Any further
discussion? Hearing none, roll call vote Mr. Clerk6
Roll-call: De Weerd, aye; Anderson, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye~
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: With that, the agenda has been fulfilled. I will entertain a motion to
adjourn.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
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Bird: Oh, no.
Corrie: I don't have to recognize her.
De Weerd: Yau already did ~
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: We have our Ada County hearings coming up on Thursday night and
the Mayor and I will be out of town~ It's very important that the city is represented~
Council Member Bird, -- because I'm not the only one sitting up here.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: I need to see - Cherie will be there. Councilman Bird said he would
attend. I wanted to see if anyone else had plans to do SO~
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: Keith is the man. I'll write him up a script.
Bird: Forget it.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: Second is the ACHD agenda. Did that need to be set or do we do
that tomorrow night?
Corrie: I don't see as it has to be set. I mean, we've got one that's set up.
(inaudible). Have you got that out to (inaudible)?
Berg: Mr. Mayor, Members of the CounciL If you have any other things to add to
the agenda, I need to get them to Susan at ACHD so she can put them on the
agenda and any preparation for-
Bird: July 2nd right?
Berg: July 2nd at noon at ACHD~
De Weerd: I'd like to request that Shari gives them a copy of the transportation
section of our comp plan update. To the ACHD Commission meeting. Give that
to the Commissioners and ask them to review it.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: Did we get a letter from them this week?
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Stiles: About the only thing they commented on was the Waltman Lane, not
wanting that to be a collector. That's why they made that comment is because
they looked at our Comprehensive Plan.
De Weerd: Ok"ay~ The commissioners did or that was staff?
Stiles: I doubt the commissioners did.
De Weerd: I'd still like the commissioners to at least get a copy of that
section.
Stiles: So, you want that to be copied for them?
Corrie: Yeah, (inaudible) they're getting it. Also I was going to put it on the
agenda for the next one with them.
Stiles: The one after this?
Corrie: Right. After they get a chance to look at it and read it. They've got a
copy from (inaudible). When he gave us the copy, he gave them one as well. The
only thing wrong with that letter was the date is wrong_ It's 2001 instead of 2002.
Plus the fact that we need to talk to them at the next agenda meeting with them
on that. We need to have a meeting of minds because they don't want to make
that a connector because (inaudible) economics but I think if the Council feels
strong enough to make that a connectorl then we better make sure they
understand it and discuss it. There won't be enough time to discuss it Monday
with the other things on there that they want.
Stiles: Okay.
De Weerd: That just opens up, you know in our planning and maybe having
them look at it, is we need to get a frontage road at least on there for the Ten
Mile to the Canyon County line too so that we don't have the same problems we
already have~
Stiles: Frontage road where?
De Weerd: Along 1-84.
Bird: Frontage road between Ten Mile and (inaudible)~ It's a very good idea~
(inaudible)~ All those interstates should have a frontage road~ We're just a little
behind the eight ball.
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De Weerd: That's the problem we're having with Waltman and Magic Valley.
Those need the collectors or the frontage roads and we already have
developments in there.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: If we have the collector study on there so maybe that's a good
topic to include on there.
Stiles: Roads are as much a part of land use planning as anything else though. I
think we do have the say.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: I just wondered, I didn't notice on the agenda tomorrow, the Bud
Way and Wells Fargo about the plumbing for the police department.
Bird: I don't think Mr. Skinner gets in until tomorrow so there would be no way
that he could be here as I understand it.
De Weerd: Okay. Well, that's what their letterhead had said. So, when can we
act on the bond purchase or the bond (inaudible)7
(inaudible discussion)
Bird: Mayor.
Corrie: Yes~
Bird: Mr. Skinner won't be here tomorrow. I mean he don't get in town until
tomorrow~ When will we be able to get on with that bond and get that taken care
of?
Corrie: I think Mr. Nichols, have we heard when that was going to be. He called
my office but he didn't give me a day. He said it's all done. It's jus that they need
to have him there.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. We tentatively have set up, as far
as the documents. A document review meeting by telephone conference on
Thursday at 2:30 in the afternoon. I believe that those that want to be at City Hall
can be in director KilchenmannJs office or some place anyway. We'll have
phones set up so the speaker phone_ I've got some appointments in Nampa so
I'll be joining from the Nampa office on Thursday afternoon. That's just the
document review. I don't think we're negotiating the interest rate or anything like
that, just simply the form of the documents~
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De Weerd: So, when do we know about the rates and secure the money?
Nichols: )'11 have to find out tomorrow on that. I think that the rate negotiations
shouldn't take long to do that part of it.
Bird: It wonJt take long6
Nichols: That's really the only variable in those once you've got the language of
the documents down~ We know what the amount is. We've just got to pick an
interest rate. (inaudible)
Bird: If we wait another week, Greenspan's going to take it down another half
point.
Corrie: That does not necessarily meant the bank will.
Bird: Well, I don't know~ We can twist some arms.
De Weerd: Just a couple of agenda items. On the workshop, I understand weJII
have our parks department giving time frames on our construction for the
different parks that were budgeted for this year. Also on the impact fee. I won't be
here that week~ I had wanted it tonight but that kind of fell through. I'd rather it
just be done so you don't have to wait for me.
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: I do understand that the change to the resolution for the Meridian
Development Committee, or for the Urban Renewal Area is going to be on our
agenda next week. Is that correct?
Nichols: Councilwoman de Weerd, Mayor, Members of the Council. We've been
working on that resolution. We can do, we can attach a map. We just can't do
legal descriptions between now and then. It's been difficult for us to come up with
(inaudible). So, we can just attach a map and call it there it iS6 To do the revenue
allocation area, which we are not doing at this time we would need a more
specific legal description. But we can do the Urban Renewal Area.
De Weerd: By map?
Nichols: By map_ That's what we'll do.
De Weerd: SO, that will be next week?
Nichols: Yeah. The form of the resolution is ready. We've just got to work up the
map.
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De Weerd: Also, the Treasure Valley Future's project, which I looked at our
Old Town area. I don't know if everyone got a copy of that presentation. There is
a website you can see it in color~ It's very informative and very well done. It's
and it's very comprehensive~ They did an excellent job~ I
would encourage you to go and look at it. It looks better in color than in black and
wh ite.
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Bowcutt: Could you repeat that?
De Weerd: It's
(inaudible discussion)
De Weerd: That's all. Thanks.
Corrie: Okay~ Is this tentatively okay with you? (inaudible) This is on one of the
(inaudible) with Kevin Howell (inaudible)
De Weerd: I'm gone that week.
Corrie: You're gone that week? Okay ~ Look at the - are you here the 19th?
De Weerd: Yes.
Corrie: How's the 19th look? This will include-
De Weerd: At what time? We're going out into the wilderness.
Bird: You've got more vacation time than (inaudible).
(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: Hows 6:30 sound to you?
De Weerd: On the 19th?
Corrie: Yas.
McCandless: What is that for?
Corrie: That's just a meeting with Kevin Howell that Tom Kuntz and 2 of the City
Council (inaudible) the Crystal Springs we turned down. We need to have some
clarification on what they want~
McCandless: Okay.
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Corrie: I see the eyes glaze over~ I'll talk to you about this and what can be
discussed.
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(inaudible discussion)
Corrie: Yeah, and I want - we'll talk about this because I had some things that I
told Kevin that we would not be discussing~ He said that's all right. I think. We
may get down (inaudible).
De Weerd: Where is this happening? Here?
Corrie: It will probably be here. We (inaudible). It)s a small group~ With that! I'll
entertain a motion Mr~ Anderson, -
De Weerd: (inaudible) have a lynch mob?
Anderson: Mr~ Mayor. I'd make a motion that we adjourn~
Bird: Second~
Corrie: Motion made and second_ All in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P.M~
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
WELL NO. 21 PUMPING FACILITIES
INVITATION TO BID
Sealed Bids for the construction of Well No.21 Pumping Facilities will be received
by the City Clerk of Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, the Owner} at the City Hall
Building located at 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho 83642, until 3:00
P.M., prevailing local time, June 21, 2001, and then publicly opened and read
aloud.
The work includes the construction of pumping facilities for Well No. 21 including
site grading; gravel driveway; 16'x28' concrete block pump house; vertical turbine
pump and motor; discharge piping; electrical controls; heating, ventilation and air
conditioning; standby generator set, and appurtenances.
Copies of the Contract Documents may be obtained at the City of Meridian Public
Works Department located at 660 E. Watertower, Suite 200 after June 7,2001
upon payment of $15.00 (non-refundable) for each set.
Bids must be submitted on the prescribed form and each Bidder must include
with the Bid a Bid Security in the amount, form and subject to the conditions
provided in the Information for Bidders.
The City of Meridian reserves the right to waive any informalities or to reject any
or all Bids and to postpone the awa rd of the Contract not more than sixty days
from the bid opening date, and to award the contract, if awarded, based on the
best interests of the City.
Questions during bidding shall be directed to Tim Burgess, P .E., Civil Survey
Consultants, at (208) 888-4312. No Bidder may withdraw his Bid within sixty (60)
days after the date of the opening thereof.
DATED this
day of
, 2001.
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