2022-10-14 Mike and Malissa Bernard City of Meridian
Planning and Zoning Commission
Hearing Date October 20 , 2022
Just a note that the applicants have been very pleasant in manner at the
Neighborhood Meeting , and as a part of the community we do appreciate
that so very much , as it is refreshing over past experiences with
development.
One happens to be our very own nearby neighbor, (Kyle Enzler) and he
and his family's company have built attractive homes in the area. While we
appreciate property rights and proposals there are many Meridian citizens
along the shared fences and down the road that hold stakes, too. We have
211 homes and impacted roads on our side of the fence.
MED. DENSITY zoning is more appropriate at R-4
The applicants were fully aware of the local lay of the land with larger lots on nearly all sides and
there may be a future ask for a match of the maximum density allowed as in minimum required SF
lots (4000 SF) in Phase 2.
TRAFFIC MITIGATION may be due
downstream from and/or within this project as a deterrent to cut-through and calm speeds---stop
signs, passive elements or speed cushions---as these new streets will funnel traffic intended for
the Centrepoint Way Commercial Collector and to future mid-mile lights and roundabouts
throughout this square mile. Alpine Pointe, Delano, Kingstown, Brickyard, and Champion Park will
be the most impacted. Lets think about getting ahead of it and not always be behind the apparent
need. Keep local-traffic-local.
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safety as well.
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appropriate. Our homes Mk MAIN LEVEL
start at 2000 SF up to over
4000 SF, many with RV REAR ELEVATION
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garages on larger lots, R-4.
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1� cutting it way too close.
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meet the minimum setbacks, as the lots are 2 feet too short. They
may fit the largest seven lots depending on depth.
https://weblink.meridiancity.org/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=272
GARAGE SIDE MEASUREMENTS of 250&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity&cr=1
plans submitted 68 feet, 68 feet, 70 feet,
70 feet, 68 feet 7 % inches
100-foot lot depth less 70-feet plan
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This illustrates the main traffic flow.
Accepted Collectors are the thickest lines.
With this new connectivity we will need E
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mitigation and we should have a strategy in
place to keep local traffic indeed LOCAL. Settlers Bridge Ipl P to Par
Alpine Pointe Commercial Phase 1 has the NO TRAFFIC CONNECTIONS P
only mid-mile light and the only lane _
leading north on Eagle except for
Ustick/Eagle NB. The Commercial traffic
and heavy high density residential will find _
a way to this light and will use it frequently
all via local streets with front-on housing.
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collectors in absence of the intended R-.�.� I
Commercial Collector at Centrepoint to -PARCEL
Wainwright/Eagle, red-dashed line to east. •
Solid light blue is official MSM Residential Champion FTk-
Collector status. Thick red is the ■
Commercial Collector. Dashed dark blue =
are local streets functioning at Full Mid-
Mile Collector status without the ACHD MSM Summerfield
designation and design.
We should not become an extension of -N
Eagle Rd. and the arterial traffic as a
means of cut-through and convenience.
South to Light at Centrepoint Way/Ustick and S to mid-mile future light Troxel/Wingate/Ustick
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Purple is the Commercial Collector continued, not constructed today. Route to Wainwright
Routes in RED will be the primary routes used for intra-mile traffic and cut-through,with EAGLE>WAINWRIGHT>ROSEPOINT-
LACEWOOD>CAMAS to McMillan and vice versa and McMillan>CAMAS>LINWOOD>WAINWRIGHT>EAGLE THE MOST HEAVILY USED
streets. Soon Centre poi nt/Wainwright and Rogue River/Wainwright will add additional traffic from the Southern part of the block. 4J
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functioning as the collector to/from McMillan and forward to Wainwright but these streets
Are NOT DESIGNED TO APPROPRIATE COLLECTOR TECHNICAL SPECS.
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THIS SHOWS PORTIONS OF THE MID-MILE"COLLECTOR" ROADS, portions of
the Commercial Collector at Centrepoint Way, and "local roads" being used as E
Collectors(most to local street tech specs of 125 foot minimum spacing between
road access) ONCE THIS PLAN is Connected, in Blue. Darker Blue is the MSM More examples found
accepted collector road. In Purple future collector. Alpine Pointe will get all that '`' ♦♦ Y
southern block residential to the light at Eagle as additional ingress/egress and ♦♦ since 25 Aug 2022 _
the same applies to North to McMillan.
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Red Dashed will be the likely COMMERCIAL COLLECTION of Traffic as the
intended road is not complete with through traffic extending further onto
existing Collector road Leigh Field via Champion Park. Regardless of the status of
the Commercial Collector Centrepoint Way,traffic patterns will intensify.
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use the light at Wainwright/Eagle as well as cut- ❑m
through from the heavier Village uses via m m
Wainwright/Records collector ingress/egress to Ll
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ORANGE SHOWS VARIANCES AND DEVIATION
The non-conforming points along the "Collector"
System including actual MSM Collectors and FROM CURRENT ACHD POLICY AND SPECS
supposed Local Streets in use to perform as WHEN LOCAL STREETS are used as
- - __- Collectors are circled in orange, not including all Zvao DEFER
COLLECTORS and VARIANCES ON EXISTING
residential driveways currently not in compliance. FM
Red Circle is the new Roundabout at Leigh ACHD MSM COLLECTORS thus creating
Field/Locust Grove. potential critical points, not including all
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driveways out of specs.
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https://www.achdidaho.org/Documents/Engineering/EtrakitIFunctionalClassMai)204O.pdf
Ada County
Lang Range Highway & Street Map I added nearby existing and future lights, with the future roundabout.
2040 Functional Street Classification System
[Records
e collector was meant to be at Baldcypress, long-range. The rejig for the
ntrepoint/Wainwright collector was not amended until 2018 yet the ROW was
rchased in 2005 with no signs or Indicators of a road. Our Internal local streets will
Functional Classification used to shave off lights as a bypass. There is the newer extension of the Collector
Interstate (north of Baldcypress) to Fernside to Wainwright N/S, East of Eagle Road.
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Future Interchanges
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Retrofits of lower-traffic and lower density residential subdivisions' LOCAL STREETS to heavily used COLLECTOR PURPOSES as
thoroughfares sited near the busiest State Highways and sited nearest the most heavily-used arterials in all the State of Idaho have
tremendous and collateral quality-of-life impacts that change the character and feel of neighborhoods.
Planning in the early to mid-2000s had a chance to avoid these issues when Champion Park (Parkstone) and Alpine Pointe (Zebulon
Heights) came forth as those acreages were a huge blank slate to ready streets for eventual Collector use and function, with no front-on
housing and appropriate spacing.
We shouldn't build further upon mistakes leading to the path to create new ones.
This Notice appears on every ACHD Agenda...now may be the time to have another look at this holistically instead of application-
by-application and take some time to develop a plan to apply throughout this city mile to keep-local-traffic-local while being
interconnected and to consider plans for other square miles in a similar position.
ACHD
Commission Meeting Agenda
Wednesday, August 10, 2022
Michael L. Brokaw Auditorium
NOTE: Pursuant to Idaho Code 40-1415(6), the ACHD Commission has the authority to accept and
approve all subdivision plats as to continuity of highway pattern, widths, drainage, right-of-way
construction standards, traffic flow, traffic demand volumes within or outside the boundaries of the
proposed development, and other matters associated with the function of the highway district. The ACHD
Commission does not have the final authorit to impose any conditions related to traffic caused by any
new development applications. Pursuant to the Idaho Supreme Court decision in KMST, LLC vs. Ada
County, 138 Idaho 557, 581-582, 2003, only the land use agency (City or County) has the final authority to
approve or reject the proposed development, including the final authority to implement conditions related
to the transportation system. ACHD is not governed by the Idaho Local Land Use Planning Act, Idaho
Code 67-6501, which only authorizes land use agencies (City and/or County) to make land use decisions.
i.e. development density, zoning, area of impact and comprehensive plan amendments.
Have Plans and Concepts on file that fit the Open and safer green spaces with wider sightlines
proposed lots before the Hearing date. for families, neighbors, police, and for overall vigilance
and safety.
Appropriate transition regardless of pencils. Designs and lot sizes that complement the
The applicant knew the lay of the land and was aware of the surrounding neighborhoods. Two-story homes on
surrounding neighborhoods when the parcel was purchased in smaller lots are not complementary to larger lots with single
2019. story or single story with front bonus.
Traffic considerations and look to roads and Application of checks-and-balances approach.
specs connected to the plan. WE SHOULD NOT STAY IN OUR LANE re. input
All plans that have come and will come forth are predicated on for the safest and most practical road designs and
the belief and blind-faith that the other existing roads and consideration.
driveways are appropriate and future roads will be designed
for the appropriate purpose. . .in some cases they are not. Connectivity should not allow for an inherent future liability or a
risk if it can be avoided, and it is in the mission statement of the
purpose of the United Development Code for the City of
Meridian.
The following portions of the UDC apply to this application , past applications,
and the roads they attach to, as stated in the UNITED DEVELOPMENT CODE
OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN :
11 -1 -2. - Purpose.
The use of structures and property.
Ensure the most appropriate use of properties;
Protect property rights and enhance property values;
Protect and promote health, safety and the general welfare.
Ord. 05-1170, 8-30-2005, eff. 9-15-2005