2022-01-20 Item 1.
Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting January 20, 2021.
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of January 20, 2021, was
called to order at 6:02 p.m. by Chairman Andrew Seal.
Members Present: Chairman Rhonda McCarvel, Commissioner Andrew Seal,
Commissioner Nick Grove, Commissioner Steven Yearsley, Commissioner Maria Lorcher
and Commissioner Nate Wheeler.
Members Absent: Commissioner Bill Cassinelli.
Others Present: Adrienne Weatherly, Kurt Starman, Bill Parsons, Joe Dodson, and Dean
Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
X Nate Wheeler X Maria Lorcher
X Rhonda McCarvel X Nick Grove
_X Steven Yearsley Bill Cassinelli
X Andrew Seal - Chairman
Seal: Okay. We will go ahead and call the meeting to order. Good evening. Welcome
to Planning and Zoning Commission meeting for January 20th, 2022. At this time I would
call the meeting to order. The Commissioners who are present for this evening's meeting
are at City Hall and on Zoom. We also have staff from the city attorney and clerk's office,
as well as the City Planning Department. If you are joining us on Zoom this evening we
can see that you are here. You may observe the meeting. However, your ability to be
seen on screen and talk will be muted. During the testimony portion of the meeting you
will be unmuted and, then, be able to comment. Please note that we cannot take
questions until the public testimony portion. If you have a process question during the
meeting, please, e-mail cityclerk@meridiancity.org and they will reply as quickly as
possible. If you simply want to watch the meeting we encourage you to watch the
streaming on the city's YouTube channel. You can access it at meridiancity.org/live. With
that let's begin with the roll call.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Seal: Okay. The first item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda. With that we
have Quartet South Subdivision, H-2021-0088, and Verona Live/Work, H-2021-0080, will
be open for the sole purpose of continuing to a regularly scheduled meeting. They will
be open for that purpose only. So, if there is anybody here tonight to testify for those
particular -- particular applications, we will not be taking testimony this evening. We will
also be hearing a motion for Moshava Village Subdivision, H-2021-0067, to be withdrawn.
Can I get a motion to adopt the agenda?
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Wheeler: So moved.
Yearsley: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Oh. You are correct. I missed one. We also have -- look at my notes here.
Jamestown Ranch Subdivision, H-2021-0074, will also be opened only for continuance.
Now can I get a motion to adopt the agenda?
Wheeler: So moved.
Yearsley: Second.
Seal: It has been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda. All in favor say aye.
Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
1. Approve Minutes of the January 6, 2022 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting
Seal: The Consent Agenda. We have one item on the Consent Agenda. That's to
approve the minutes of the January 6th, 2022, Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
Can I get a motion to accept the Consent Agenda as presented?
McCarvel: So moved.
Yearsley: Mr. Chair, I move to accept -- or adopted the Consent Agenda.
Seal: Do I have a second?
McCarvel: Second.
Wheeler: Second.
Seal: Okay. It's been moved and seconded to adopt the Consent Agenda. All in favor
say aye. Opposed? Okay. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
ITEMS MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA [Action Item]
Seal: So, the public hearing process. At this time I will explain the public hearing process.
We will open each item individually and begin with the staff report. Staff will report their
findings on how the item adheres to our Comprehensive Plan and Unified Development
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Code. After staff has made their presentation the applicant will come forward to present
their case and respond to staff comments. They will have 15 minutes to do so. After the
applicant has finished we will open the floor to public testimony. Each person will be
called on only once during their public testimony. The Clerk will call the names individually
of those who have signed up on our website in advance to testify. You will, then, be
unmuted in Zoom or you can come to the microphones in chamber. Please state your
name and address for the record. You will have three minutes to address the
Commission. If you have previously sent pictures or a presentation to the meeting it will
be displayed on screen and our Clerk will run the presentation. If you have established
that you are speaking on behalf of a larger group, like an HOA, where others from that
group will allow you to speak on their behalf, you will have up to ten minutes. After all
those who have signed up in advance have spoken we will invite any others who may
wish to testify. If you wish to speak on the topic you may come forward in chambers or if
on Zoom press the raise hand button in the Zoom app. Or if you are only listening on a
phone, please, press star nine and wait for your name to be called. If you are listening
on multiple devices, such as a computer or a phone, please, be sure to mute the extra
devices, so we do not experience feedback and we can hear you clearly. When you are
finished if the Commissioners -- if the Commission does not have any questions for you
you will return to your seat in chambers or be muted on Zoom and no longer have the
ability to speak and, please, remember we will not call on you a second time. After all
testimony has been heard the applicant will be given another ten minutes to come back
and respond. When the applicant has finished responding to questions and concerns we
will close the public hearing and the Commissioners will have the opportunity to discuss
and, hopefully, be able to make a final decision or recommendations to City Council as
needed.
ACTION ITEMS
2. Public Hearing for Quartet South Subdivision (H-2021-0088) by
Brighton Development, Inc., Located on Parcels S043432586 and
S0434325410, at the Northeast Corner of W. Ustick Rd. and N. Black
Cat Rd.
A. Request: Annexation of 67.61 acres of land with the R-8 (48.83
acres) and R-15 (18.78 acres) zoning districts.
B. Request: Preliminary Plat consisting of 229 single-family residential
lots, 2 multifamily lots with 140 townhouse units, and 42 common
lots.
Seal: At this time we would like to open the public hearing for Quartet South Subdivision,
H-2021-0088 for continuance.
Yearsley: Mr. Chairman?
Seal: Commissioner Yearsley, go ahead.
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Yearsley: I move we continue file number H-2021-0088 to the hearing date of February
3rd, 2022.
McCarvel: Second.
Seal: All right. Get to my notes here. It has been moved and seconded -- it is moved
and -- moved and seconded to continue file number H-2021-0088, Quartet South
Subdivision, to the date of February 3rd, 2022. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay.
Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
3. Public Hearing Continued from December 16, 2021 for Verona
Live/Work (H-2021-0080) by J-U-B Engineers, Inc., Located at 3020 &
3042 W. Milano Dr., Near the Northeast Corner of Ten Mile Rd. and
McMillan Rd.
A. Request: A Conditional Use Permit for 16 vertically integrated
residential units within four (4) buildings on 1.75 acres in the L-O
zoning district.
Seal: I will now open Verona Live/Work, H-2021-0080, for continuance.
McCarvel: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Go ahead.
McCarvel: Do you maybe want to check the itinerary for February 3rd. It feels like we
had a pretty big stack on there already. Do you want both of them?
Seal: They were discussed previously and I think February 3rd is --
McCarvel: Okay.
Seal: -- kind of where we landed on it.
Dodson: That's correct, Mr. Chair. If February 3rd is -- should be better than the 17th.
Seal: Okay.
Yearsley: Mr. Chair, I move that we continue application H-2021-0067 to the hearing date
of February 3rd, 2022.
Wheeler: 0080.
Yearsley: Oh. Sorry. I'm on the wrong one. Sorry. 0080. My apologies.
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Seal: Do I have a second?
McCarvel: Second.
Seal: It is moved -- moved and seconded to continue file number H-2021-0080, Verona
Live/Work, to the date of February 3rd, 2022. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay.
The motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
4. Public Hearing Continued from December 16, 2021 for Moshava
Village Subdivision (H-2021-0067) by JUB Engineers, Inc., Located at
4540 W. Franklin Rd. and 4490 W. Franklin Rd.
A. Request: Annexation of 5.14 acres of land with the R-15 zoning
district.
B. Request: Preliminary Plat consisting of a total of 30 single-family
residential building lots and 3 common lots on 6.48 acres of land.
Seal: We will now open file number H-2021-0067 for Moshava Village Subdivision. We
would like to get a motion to accept the applicant's request to withdraw.
Yearsley: So moved.
McCarvel: Second.
Seal: It has been moved and seconded to accept the applicant's request to withdraw on
file number H-2021-0067. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
5. Public Hearing Continued from November 18, 2021 for Jamestown
Ranch Subdivision (H-2021-0074) by Walsh Group, LLC, Located Near
the Southeast Corner of the N. Black Cat and W. McMillan Rd.
Intersection at 4023 W. McMillan Rd. and parcels S0434223150,
S0434212970, S0434212965, and S0434212920.
A. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 80 acres of land with a R-8
zoning district.
B. Request: A Preliminary Plat consisting of 294 building lots and 25
common lots.
Seal: We will now open Jamestown Ranch Subdivision, H-2021-0074, for continuance.
I believe we discussed the date of February 17th.
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Wheeler: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Wheeler, go ahead.
Wheeler: Give this a try here that I move to continue file number H-2021-0074 to the
hearing date of February 17th -- is that the hearing date that we were looking at for that
one? Okay. For the -- yeah. Just move it to the hearing date of February 17th.
Seal: 2022?
Wheeler: 2022.
Lorcher: Second.
Seal: Okay. It has been moved -- moved and seconded to continue file number H-2021-
0074, Jamestown Ranch Subdivision, to the date of February 17th, 2022. All in favor say
aye. Any opposed? Okay. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
6. Public Hearing Continued from December 2, 2021 for Lennon Pointe
Community (H-2021-0071) by DG Group Architecture, PLLC, Located
at 1515 W. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: Annexation of 10.41 acres of land with a request for C-C
(2.01 acres) and R-15 (8.3 acres) zoning districts.
B. Request: Preliminary Plat consisting of 44 building lots (43 single-
family residential and 1 multi-family residential), 1 commercial
building lot, and 2 common lots on 8.8 acres of land in the proposed
C-C and R-15 zoning districts.
C. Request: A Conditional Use Permit for a multi-family development
consisting of a total of 18 units on 1.18 acres in the proposed R-15
zoning district.
Seal: Okay. I would like to open the public hearing for Item No. H-2021-0071, Lennon
Pointe Community, which was continued from 12/2/2021. We will begin with the staff
report.
Dodson: Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the Commission. I'm not sure if you want
me to go into much detail with the existing -- or I should say the plan, considering we have
seen this before. I guess just quickly, the site is about 8.8 acres of land, currently zoned
RUT. It's located at the southeast corner of Linder and Ustick. The applications before
you tonight are annexation, zoning, preliminary plat and a conditional use permit. A
private street application was also submitted with the application, but that is administrative
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approval from the director/staff. At the previous hearing the Commission continued the
project for the following reasons: To create a better solution to the transition between the
proposed multi-family building and the neighborhood to the east. I guess for reference
this is the previous site plan. Secondly, to modify the attached units along the east
boundary of the site to be front loaded, instead of facing the east. And also to revise the
plat to match any changes to the overall conceptual site plan and there were some other
nuanced discussions that occurred and even some specifics, but I don't want to go into
too much detail right now. Following the Commission hearing in December the applicant
sent me revised plans last week, to which I wrote a staff -- or a staff memo to the
Commission, dated January 14th. So, I hope you all were able to read that. That has
much more of the detail in it and outlines the specific conditions and provisions that I
recommended revising based on the new site plan, which is this one. So, quickly, the
changes that they made was along the east boundary they changed the design of these
to be front loaded. So, they are just matching the required setbacks on the east side,
which in an R-15 zone is a 12 foot rear setback. On the revised plan they are showing
that the buildings are approximately 18 and a half feet from the rear property line, though
that's not a setback, it's just where the building is. They added the required covered
parking here. They removed this cut through area between the commercial and the multi-
family, because there was a point of discussion regarding some issues there. They also
changed the multi-family units here. They are no longer four stories, they are proposed
three story units and they removed the end unit altogether, rather than just stepping it
down to two stories. So, now this gap is approximately 44 feet between the fence line
and the building. The -- I have some revised elevations of those three story units as well.
They also moved the dog park from the southeast area of the site to the southwest area
of the site to be further away and part of the larger open space area. They also removed
one of the townhome lots on the west side here. It used to be six. They removed one in
order to pull it out of the floodway and, then, also include a new drive aisle here to connect
a private street with the entrance off of Linder. This is not something that was necessarily
discussed, but in the grand conversation of cut through traffic and making sure residents,
as well as commercial, have specific areas to go, I believe that's why the applicant
proposed that. It is not required by code, but as I noted in my memo, Commission can
agree or disagree and the -- the proposed provision for that is open ended. So, it will
work either way. They also added a ten foot multi-use pathway here, which was
discussed by Mr. Chair as -- to connect to the other segment of it and, lastly, they made
this lot match the minimum lot size requirements. So, they covered most of what was
discussed at the previous Commission hearing and if there are any questions I will stand
for those now.
Seal: Okay. Would the applicant like to come forward? Good evening. Please state
your name and address for the record.
A.Wheeler: Andrew Wheeler. 2923 North Arthur Circle, Boise, Idaho. 83703. And, Mr.
Chair, Members of the Commission, thank you again for taking a second look at this
property and this proposal. Joe, do I have control of --
Dodson: Yeah. But I got to find your presentation.
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A.Wheeler: So, as Joe was saying on our previous hearing, it was concluded that the --
we were about 90 percent there. Everyone liked the site plan. It needed a little bit of
tweaking, a little massaging to get it over that hump and overcome a couple of hurdles
and some objections that were brought up which were -- were valid and we feel that we
have addressed each and come up with a solution that solves those problems and
provides more housing for the City of Meridian in a comprehensive way in the mixed use
community zone. So, as Joe was saying, a couple of the edits that were -- the factors
that were brought up as issues were primarily centered around traffic and circulation and
building height and privacy. So, to address the circulation -- and we can point to the slide
when I get there in a minute, but the access -- commingling circulation of the residents
through the commercial was a primary concern and so providing that 20 foot private drive
will allow residents to go directly to Linder without ever having to circulate through the
commercial and as well as -- here we go. Okay. The little screen on there. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Well, we will roll with this. So, this is a -- the view of coming into the property from
the west and we will get more into the renderings. So, let's look at -- just to familiarize
everyone with the existing conditions, which I don't want to spend too much time on this,
but, you know, this image shows the intricate connection or network of local streets which
provide multiple access points onto Linder and Ustick. A couple challenges with the site
with the Kellogg drain, the floodway, the arterial streets and getting access onto those
and onto there, bringing in the connection of the local streets and the existing single family
on the east. Those are the primary concerns with the site and challenges to design within.
A few images looking north on Linder. This is looking southeast to the Creason Lateral
and the Five Mile Drain. The Creason Lateral. I'm going to kind of flip through here just
quickly. This is the existing single family development to the east. Joe, is there a way to
remove that red? Oh, it's just on this, so -- never mind. Okay. Here is a view looking at
-- off of Pebblestone looking west and, then, the northeast corner, the existing single
family and the height differential with -- differential, which we will get into a little bit later.
There are three zones of-- the commercial in the upper left, multi-family in the upper right
and, then, residential in the main part in the bottom and this graph shows the -- or image
shows the rerouting of the Kellogg Drain underground and the floodway in the southeast
-- southwest corner. The public road that is coming through the site, that's a requirement
of ACHD, and all of the roads would be private. So, we can talk on the site plan here for
a minute. In addressing the traffic and circulation -- so, we provided that 20 foot drive to
allow residents -- residents to have direct access onto Linder and not have to circulate
through the commercial space. We do have signage on there to -- to dissuade
commercial users from pulling into the site that would be residents only, no through traffic
signage and, then, looking off of -- coming off of Ustick through Building A in the upper
right we closed off that drive aisle connection as well and we also do provide signage as
you are entering that, so users won't take an early right and thinking they are going to the
commercial, there will be signage there saying resident only, no through access. And as
far as the building height issue, Building A was redesigned. We -- we lost -- went from
four stories to three. We completely lost the eastern unit and made that a pedestrian
plaza, so another additional amenity to the project. We redesigned the building to have
-- to be flat apartments, because before they were two story units, so now they are just
nine unit buildings, three story -- three units on each level, with two and three bedroom
and a one bedroom in the middle, primarily because of the daylight, with the one bedroom
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unit and we went with single unit garages. On the east side for the single family we
provided a little bit wider units to allow a front entry door and have that front loaded. So,
the rear of that on the far east is just backyard, so we got rid of that walkway, which was
previously encouraging more traffic and eyeballs and there is more people on that side
and less privacy, so this provides more privacy. And, then, we moved the dog park, which
was brought up in that -- in our last meeting that the dog park was kind of small and tight
when we had it in the southeast corner. We moved that over to the southwest corner and
the dog park fence would share the fence that's a requirement of Nampa-Meridian
Irrigation District to block off the Creason Lateral, so that will just be a continuation. That
will be part of that larger dog park. And, then, Building B on the west, we moved that --
moved that up and lost a lot. Lost one lot. So, if we look at open space, this actually
increased by about 3,000 square feet from -- with the addition of the pedestrian plaza in
the northeast corner and losing a lot in the -- on the west end from Building B. Our
parking, we are still well over the required. At the commercial we are required 24 stalls
and we are providing 25. At the multi-family we are required 33 and we are providing 35.
And at the single family we are required 173 and we are providing 197. Here is an image
of the aerial site. So, I won't spend too much time on the building design, since this is the
second time we have addressed this project. The -- this is the commercial building. Be
metal panel, concrete masonry and concrete wainscot on the bottom with -- and mostly
glass. This being a drive-through use and this is the second building, the smaller
commercial, which is intended to be a sandwich shop. Could be an ice cream parlor. It
could be a multiple of uses to serve that community. This is the view looking south. This
is Ustick. So, you are seeing Building A -- the two Building A's on the left and, then, the
commercial on the right and, then, here is a view looking south at the commercial corner.
This is sitting on the northwest corner and here is the view showing that MEW throughout
the middle of the site and commercial on the right. These are the floor plans for Building
A, which would have a corridor on the back on the second and third level that is how those
tenants would ingress and egress the units, with garages on the ground level with direct
access. And, then, on the elevation -- this elevation is slightly different than the one Joe
showed earlier. We had modified the patios to angle those roofs down to not only reduce
the height and the appearance of the height, but also provide a little more articulation
along Ustick and a little more rhythm. Here is an enlarged view of that plaza showing that
44 feet to the building and, then, again, this is a similar slide we looked at before, with the
grading plan, where the existing grade is at 25/75 for the single family home and we are
proposing a finished grade at 25/72. So, we are -- we are already three feet below the
existing single family. And here is a view of that plaza and Building A, so this would be
in the northeast corner. This is entering the site from West Pebblestone. And, then, here
is an image showing the resident only signage. It's kind of small to see in here, but that
white sign on the left. So, to prevent any circulation of commercial users from going
through the -- through the drive aisle and intending to go to the commercial space. This
is looking at that Ustick entry, looking north. And Building B we have five lots and the
materials were changed a little bit in -- in this to provide some shake siding and just a little
bit different of a design aesthetic, which will be further refined in design review. And here
is an image of that. And this also shows the ten foot bike path addition on the western
boundary to try to get pedestrian traffic off of Linder as much as possible and connect to
the existing bike path in the northeast corner -- or, excuse me, northwest corner of that
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intersection. And this is looking at the -- it's sitting in the southwest corner looking north.
Building C. These were widened slightly, as Joe mentioned, to meet the minimum lot size
requirements and dropped to a two story unit from a three story unit, which was previously
proposed. And here is a view of the -- that Building C on the right and, then, the dog park
on the left. An aerial view of that southeast corner -- southwest corner. And, then, we
have our elevations of the single family, two story units. And this is the image of the --
through the MEW in the center of the site. So, this is providing a lot of, you know,
connectivity between residents and allowing residents to interact with one another and
not have everything be front garages. A view of that same space. And these are the
single -- the three single family homes in the southeast corner. And this was where we
previously had the dog park, which is now removed, so it's just additional open space,
which is, you know, very usable and a nice scale for, you know, more intimate uses, you
know, picnic outside, whatever you are -- you might want to be doing in that space. Again
similar to the northeast corner on the grades, the existing grades are 25/75 and our
proposed grades are 25/72. So, here as well we are three feet below the adjacent homes.
This section shows what Joe was mentioning about our 18 foot eight inch setback to the
building and, then, our second story patios are actually 22 feet back, as well as three feet
below. So, there is ample separation between there and without the -- or with the removal
of the pathway that previously was there this will be a lot more quiet, landscaped, and
provide more privacy. This is a view of the east end looking west. A view of the south
looking north. And a view of the west side looking east. And there you can see that 20
foot drive that connects to the -- the access point to the commercial. With that I will stand
for questions.
Seal: Thank you very much. Are there any questions for the applicant or staff at this
point?
Lorcher: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Lorcher, go ahead.
Lorcher: The existing farmhouse -- do you own the entire parcel? Your developer?
A.Wheeler: Yes.
Lorcher: The existing farmhouse that is there, is it going to be destroyed or is it going to
be moved?
A.Wheeler: That's in discussions right now. We haven't made a final decision.
Lorcher: My second question is that I follow Zillow a little bit and yesterday a parcel at
the corner of -- 1.47 acres at Ustick and Linder came up for sale. How does that work
into the development?
A.Wheeler: Can you repeat that question?
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Lorcher: So, Zillow -- so, I get notifications when properties go up for sale in Meridian,
just because I'm curious --
A.Wheeler: Yeah.
Lorcher: -- and so the corner parcel -- 1.47 acres at the corner of Ustick and Linder on
the northeast corner -- or southeast corner, which is yours, came up for sale.
A.Wheeler: You are talking about the corner of our property?
Lorcher: Right. Where you have the commercial building.
A.Wheeler: Yeah. Yeah.
Lorcher: So, are you selling that off or is it part of your development?
A.Wheeler: Well, it's part of the development. The intent is to potentially find a buyer that
would want to put a different use in there. So, we are -- you know, we are open right now
on what use is actually going to go in there and so it's exploring options at this point.
Lorcher: Okay. I mean it did say commercial vacant land for sale.
A.Wheeler: Yeah.
Lorcher: And so --
A.Wheeler: And the intent would be that whatever does go in there, whether -- whether
our client builds it and -- or another client does, that it would meet the requirements set
by the Commission and City Council, as well as going through a CUP in the future and,
you know, a higher level of design.
Lorcher: Okay. I was just kind of curious when I saw this come up for the agenda tonight
and, then, I also saw that for sale, I was wondering how that was all tying in together.
Thank you.
Seal: Anymore questions for the applicant or staff? Okay. At this time we will take public
testimony.
A.Wheeler: Thank you.
Seal: Thank you very much.
Weatherly: Mr. Chair, we have one person signed in and that's Caryn Bitler.
Bitler: I'm Caryn Bitler. I live at 3055 Northwest 13th Street in Meridian. Okay. Hello,
everybody.
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Seal: Go ahead. And thank you.
Bitler: Okay. My concerns with the suggestions are as followed: The townhomes that
are proposed for the east side of the development, we still feel that they should be single
family detached homes or patio homes to alleviate density. Also the mixed use plan will
increase traffic noise, congestion, pollution, crime and we suggest you limit the residential
to detached homes, patio homes. Also the mixed use should only be considered for 40
acre parcels, of which this is not. One Commissioner mentioned the eight acre parcel
should not be considered for this project. That means eight acres would not support the
mixed use development and I just want you guys to do what's right only. Also, both
Commissioners Yearsley and Cassinelli stated their support for detached homes and
patio homes on the eight parcel acre -- the eight acre parcel on December 2nd and we
support developing these types of homes. And also the patio homes can attract another
demographic, which would be the older group, and I think that would be attractive to the
area. Also negative impacts would be in perpetuality, that's why we suggest the -- the
single family homes. Also -- they are also building townhomes just a few blocks away on
Ustick and also a big development is going in on the northeast corner of Linder and Ustick
and also we are concerned about building close to the flood zone. I know that you guys
have discussed it -- discussed it, but I just wanted to say that our neighbors are feeling
the same way. And also the person that owned the property next to the farm, I did go to
his house after our meeting during Christmastime and I did speak with him directly and
he was very upset, he was not for what was going on. He knew things would happen,
but he wasn't happy about it. I asked why he didn't show. He said he was busy. So,
that's how it goes. Also we are concerned about the flood zone as evidenced on the map
that I provided your people. And it was provided by the Public Works staff and also
Creason Creek was built on existing farmland and it's expected that all the homes would
receive a high groundwater and that affected our crawl spaces of our entire community.
We have come to realize that all communities that are built or will be built on existing
farmland will have the problem of high groundwater. Although the corner of the upper
edge of my lot is not in the flood zone per se, we did have flooding and it would -- and
also my neighbors to the north of us who are not in a flood zone, they had worse flooding
and everything was addressed. But, basically, I know they want to pipe the Kellogg Drain,
which is in the flood zone, which there is extreme concern for these -- any and all
buildings, because you really shouldn't build anything in that area. And the last thing I
wanted to say that it makes no sense to have any kind of construction in a flood zone and
it says to utilize -- utilize it as open space and when you still look at what he did and you
compare what I sent -- what I sent -- and this was from Andrew Korn, who is in charge of
flooding and he even said he didn't understand why things were being built in this flood
zone. So, that just raised extreme concern. And when I put this over the architect's
revived drawing you could still see in the red thatched area he still has homes.
Townhomes. I'm not saying that we should have single story homes, as he mentioned
before. I said single family detached dwellings, which means they could be two story,
they could be one story, but to be detached and I just hope that you consider this. Thank
you.
Seal: Thank you. Madam Clerk, do we have anybody else signed up?
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Weatherly: We do not, Mr. Chair.
Seal: Oh. Come -- come right up. Just need to have you state your name and address
for the record.
Sindon: Yes. My name is Carissa Sindon. I live at 914 North 8th Street, Apartment B4,
in Boise. 83702. Okay. Hello. My parents used to own this property, so I grew up on
that corner and I listened remotely to the hearing last time and I just wanted to give my
perspective as to what my family has experienced with the growth in Meridian and I'm
definitely for this development and a lot of the things that people were saying last time is
traffic -- the complaints were traffic, losing views, quality of life, et cetera. When I grew
up there in the early '80s there was a two way stop. Stop signs on Ustick and Linder. So,
there was no stoplights or anything and we used to have a barn. That barn is now gone,
because of the widening of the road and my parents have moved -- moved about 15 years
ago, because of the traffic, because they lost their views. Their quality of life was
diminished. You can't have a farm life there anymore. So, I just wanted to give that
perspective, because I think it's inevitable that the land will be developed. That's just the
way Meridian is going right now and I think that the development that they have proposed
with the open space and the dog park and I think they are being very thoughtful about it
and it will provide housing. I think it's good and I just wanted to let you know that
perspective, because I'm a native Idahoan, been here for 40 years, and that's -- we used
to have a farm there and there is not a farm there anymore. So, thank you very much.
Seal: Thank you. Come on up. Please state your name and address for the record.
Stinnett: Pamela Stinnett. 3036 Northwest 13th Street in Meridian. And I'm not impacted
by people viewing into my backyard, because I'm on the other side of the street, but I see
that the housing is encroaching on the people that are right across the street from me.
My issues, though, go beyond that. They go further than just the -- the impact on our
development, because one of many developments, but it's going to impact all the other
developments, including the other one that's going across the street, because as it is
getting out of the subdivision is really tough. You are fighting -- if you have to go south
you can't go out on Linder without dying and if you try to go -- you know, if you come out
of 12th Street it's also very difficult. If you have to -- wiggle through and go through
Crossfield, it's still not much better, but, then, you are holding them up. The problem is
that --
Grove: I'm sorry, I can't hear you.
Stinnett: Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. I meant to put it higher. Sorry. Didn't stop to think
that she was shorter than I was. Anyway. So, the problem that I have is traffic in the
surrounding areas, because you have all these other developments. Another problem I
have, which I don't think many people really thought much about, because the gentleman
that talked about the schools said, well, they are at 20 percent now, but they could see
themselves being okay at 80. Well, with all the developments going in the school is not
going to be at 80, it's going to be over a hundred. It's going to be impacted greatly. So,
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you are going to have a lot of kids putting a lot of burden on that school and I, honestly,
think that's going to impact the quality of their education and those kids are going to be
-- some kids from our neighborhood, as well as a new development. Additionally, I want
to make sure if they do -- if this development goes through as -- whether as planned or if
you make adjustments to it, are we going to be able to walk through their dog park or is
that going to be -- are there going to be limitations? Because, you know, to me that
precludes us easily going -- you know, we have to go all the way around to go to another
park or to walk down the street going, you know, around, if that -- if that's going to be an
issue and it just seems to me that there should not be a limitation on who can use that
open space. So, those are the main things. But I do think it's going to impact quality of
life, safety issues, traffic issues. I already -- when I first moved in three years ago I could
get to Cole Road and Franklin in 15 minutes easy, sometimes 12. Now it takes me 45
and it's just going to get worse and I don't expect it to stay perfect, but I do think that --
my time is up. Thank you so much for listening.
Seal: Thank you very much. Do we have anybody else in chambers that would like to
come forward and -- no? Nobody online raising their hand?
Weatherly: I don't see anybody, Mr. Chair.
Seal: Okay. Would the applicant like to come back forward?
Dodson: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Go ahead.
Dodson: I would like to make a couple comments first just to clear up some of the --
Seal: Absolutely. Please do.
Dodson: Regarding the floodplain or floodway, yeah, like 90 percent of the site is in some
kind of flood zone. It's a very--that's why I know that this property hasn't been developed,
because it's going to take a lot of work to get it out of there. However, what they are going
to do with the Creason Lateral and piping the Kellogg Drain will immediately change that
entire facet of that, which is good for the neighboring sites as well. There is also a geotech
that was done and specific construction recommendations within that, which we have a
condition already in there that says that they have to meet those specific
recommendations. So, we should be handled on that. I have full faith that we -- we will
monitor that as we do with any project that's in the floodway. There was another point
and I forgot. I will come back around.
Seal: Okay.
Dodson: Thank you.
Seal: Thanks.
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A.Wheeler: Thanks, Joe. That's very helpful and on the details as always. So, to address
a couple of these -- these issues, to speak about the floodway, I mean, first of all, yes, we
are dealing with a site that is challenging and has taken a lot of creativity and thought
and, you know, time to put a solution that's viable here. We are staying completely out of
the floodway and we are designing the homes to be a foot above the base flood elevation.
So, that's how we are addressing the flood concerns. As far as the detached homes on
the east -- Joe, can we pull up to my presentation there. Just wanted to get to one of
those beginning slides. While Joe is pulling that up, you know, the comment was that,
you know, height doesn't matter, that it's the width and being detached. When we pull up
a map here you will see that the existing single family lots are about just as wide as two
of our lots as is. So, we are no much wider in our single structure than the existing homes
that are there, which are two stories in some cases as well and much wider than what we
are proposing. So, I feel that from a massing perspective we are aligned to what is
already existing on the eastern boundary. Regarding the use of the site -- yeah, just to
move on to that point -- go back to the very beginning here. Yeah. So, you can see on
the right there is -- those black lines on the very far edge are the property lines of the
existing single family and approximately, you know, encompass two of our lots. So, to
put a visual to that. As far as regarding the use of the area, that will be determined at a
later point through an HOA of how that will be managed, whether the dog park will be
open, whether the play structures will be open. At a minimum the --the ten foot pedestrian
path, which we already had provided and, then, we have extended that further to the
northeast -- or northwest to the bike parking, would be available and usable by -- by
anyone. So, that is a part that would be used for anyone on the site, not to mention any
of the commercial uses that go in there, that would -- you know, could become a very
viable, desirable place to go for the existing residents. I would just urge that the council
take consideration to this development and consider the challenges that we have ran into,
the needs of the City of Meridian for housing and the time, effort, energy and thought
that's gone into this project to bring something that's going to solve a complex problem in
a sophisticated way. So, with that I will stand for questions.
Seal: Joe, did you remember what you forgot?
Dodson: I do. Yeah. It was regarding the -- the dog park, just to say that the multi-use
pathway, as Andrew covered, will be shared for sure regionally, but the use of the open
space typically is not shared between developments, only because only one HOA is
paying for that area and to maintain that area -- the same as these residents won't be
able to use the Creason Creek open space. Technically. Does it happen? Sure. I'm
sure it does. But that's just typically how it goes. But if this HOA wants to do that they
are more than welcome to keep that open. But, again, that's not -- not usually something
that the city puts their hands on.
Seal: Okay. Thank you.
A.Wheeler: Thank you.
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Seal: Thank you very much. Actually, I should have asked -- did you have a question?
No? No more questions? Okay. At this time can I get a motion to close the public hearing
for Item No. H-2021-0071?
McCarvel: So moved.
Wheeler: Second.
Seal: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing for Item No. H-2021-
0071. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Okay. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Seal: Comments?
Wheeler: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Wheeler, go ahead.
Wheeler: I -- some of the concerns that were brought up -- I'm not as concerned on the
floodplain issue, because I know that there is going to be -- like staff has said about the
engineering requirements and things of that nature on that, plus the developer doesn't
want to put his money into something that's going to be sunken later and he's trying to
get a return out of it. So, I know that they are going to do what they can in order to build
it up and take care of those issues with that. The transitional piece on the eastern side
with the townhomes, I think that that makes a nice little segue or transitional part on the
eastern side of the property as it goes from some commercial there next to a -- if we count
the decel lanes, you know, six lanes or into a residential subdivision there. That seems
-- that seems to be a good use of that eastern side of it and I like the use of that open
space and created with a dog park in that cornered area there, that's going to be
interesting, especially with the way that they are also tying it into the --the pathways there.
So, this is -- seems to be a good project that, you know, for corner of six lanes by six
lanes with stoplights and everything, it seems like it's a -- a good use of space.
Seal: Okay. Anybody else want to jump in?
Lorcher: Mr. Chair?
Grove: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Lorcher, I think you were first.
Lorcher: I will agree with Commissioner Wheeler. This is going to be developed like
everybody had said. It would be nice that everybody was a hundred percent in
agreement. All four corners are going to be residential with a little bit of commercial into
it and as long as the floodplain issues are resolved -- have been resolved and there is
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connectivity with the pathways. Going opposite direction on either Linder and Ustick is
always going to be a problem, unless more lights are done. I know I go out of my way to
turn right and not try to turn left at any given time, even if it means going around the block
for safety reasons, because people just jut out from everywhere. Sometimes that can be
inconvenient, but it can also be a safety concern. But the transition I agree with
Commissioner Wheeler, from 12th Street and 13th Street over to that--with those building
lots seems like a good transition.
Seal: Commissioner Grove, did you want to jump in?
Grove: Awesome. Thank you, Mr. Chair. A couple of thoughts that I have on this. I
appreciate the changes that the applicant made in coming back to us with a revised plan.
It looks like they -- they put some real thought into how to address the concerns that we
had and they were able to do in a way that I hadn't fully foreseen and I like the changes.
I think the -- that open space is -- is very large for a development of this size and it looks
great, kind of coming off that arterial road and being able to see that large open space.
The future land use map shows this is mixed use and I think this is a good way to show
that intent of what the future land use map shows as mixed use. Getting the diversity of
housing types in there is -- is a great option and I think we need to have those options as
we continue to grow. You know, when I moved here from Boise years ago I moved here
because it was a great -- you know, we had all the awards for being a great family city, a
place for families to move and raise and grow your family and I think having those options
of different types of houses, different price points, things like that really helped build the
strength of our community. So, I applaud them and the types of choices that they made
for this. I also think that the movement that they put for traffic for the commercial space
makes a lot of sense and they have really done a good job of both separating and
integrating at the same time, so I'm in favor of this project.
Seal: Okay. Commissioner Yearsley? Commissioner McCarvel? Anything to add? Any
motions to be made?
Yearsley: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Yearsley, go ahead.
Yearsley: You know, I think they did a fairly decent job trying to meet most of the
concerns. For me personally I just don't like it. I guess it comes down to personal
preference. I think they should have put single family homes at least on the east side to
provide a different -- a better transition. But -- but overall I think it's -- it works and I won't
-- I will just leave it at that.
Seal: Commissioner McCarvel?
McCarvel: Mr. Chair, after considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move
to recommend approval to the City Council of file number H-2021-0071 as presented in
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the staff report for the hearing date of December 2nd, 2021 -- or January. Let's do
January 17th, 2022.
Dodson: January 20th, 2022.
Seal: Twenty. One more time.
McCarvel: 20th? You want the 20th. I was just picking days out of the air. January 20th,
2022.
Seal: It's almost like this is the last time you are going to do that.
McCarvel: Almost.
Wheeler: I second that. I think. I think.
Seal: It's been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2021-0071.
Dodson: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Oh, Joe.
Dodson: Real quick. Just want to make sure we are clear. Do they need to include the
-- with the modifications of my memo in there?
Starman: I understood the motion to incorporate that, but maybe I will ask the maker of
the motion is that -- was that your intent?
McCarvel: To include all the staff notes?
Starman: Correct.
Dodson: Thank you.
Starman: I think we are good.
Seal: All right. It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2021-0071 to
include the staff notes. All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Yearsley: Nay.
Seal: Got that?
Weatherly: For the record, Commissioner Yearsley, was that a nay?
Yearsley: That was a nay.
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Weatherly: Thank you.
Seal: Okay. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE NAY. ONE ABSENT.
7. Public Hearing for Pine 43 Pad G (H-2021-0097) by CSHQA, Located at
1492 N. Webb Way
A. Request: Conditional Use Permit for a drive-through establishment
within 300 feet of a residential zoning district on 5.31 acres of land in
the C-G zoning district.
Seal: All right. Okay. So, at this time I would like to open the public hearing for Item No.
H-2021-0097 and we will begin with the staff report.
Parsons: Thank you, Chair, Members of the Commission. Next item on the agenda this
evening is the Pine 43 Pad G conditional use permit. This site consists of 5.31 acres of
land. It's currently zoned C-G and it's located at 1492 North Webb Way. This property
was pre-platted and a development agreement modification was approved in 2017. So,
this site has not been formerly final platted yet, but it is part of the Pine 43 pre-plat and
staff has not -- again has not received a final plat to create this particular parcel, so in --
by that not being completed the applicant would be required to develop the entire five
acre site for this building to be constructed on it. I would mention to the Commission that
we have approved a -- what's called a staff level certificate a zoning compliance and
design review for one of the office -- or for one of the retail buildings on this site already.
It's currently under construction. So, the applicant is aware of those conditions and
proceeding with those as set forth as stated in the staff report. As you can see here this
project is part of a larger mixed use community designated area. This small commercial
area was anticipated to support a residential --
Yearsley: Mr. Chair? Bill, can you share your screen?
Parsons: Oh. I'm sorry. I thought Joe had that shared for you. You know what they say
when you assume things. Is that better for you? I thought you could read my mind. We
have been working together so long. Perfect. Everything else clear now? So, there is
the mixed use area that I was talking to you about and, again, this is just -- what the
applicant's proposing this evening is consistent with the concept plan tied to that
development agreement. So, here is that one pad site. It's in the southwest corner of
that 5.3 acre site. Again, the pad site to the north of this is under construction, along with
those frontage improvements and the -- the associated parking. So, as staff pointed out
in the staff report, they need to final plat it if they just want to develop this single parcel,
but because they haven't final platted and because we have already approved all of the
site work under certificate of zoning compliance, the applicant's basically complying with
the conditions of this particular conditional use permit. Again, the -- the reason why we
are here for a conditional use is because the associated drive through is within 300 feet
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of a residential district. So, currently Pine 43 Apartments, Phase 2, which is zoned R-40
is directly to the south of this. The only thing that's separating it is a commercial drive
aisle along the south boundary and that's -- that's the purpose of why we are here tonight
is the code requires you to take access on that. Staff did note in the staff report that the
associated drive through does comply with all the specific use standards. Really minor
modifications. The applicant has agreed to putting up a six foot solid wall along the
landscape buffer here along the south boundary to help mitigate some of the noise to the
adjacent residential and that will be reviewed and verified at the time they modify their
certificate of zoning compliance for this particular site. I would also note here that there
is -- access points have been approved for this development as well. There is one here
north of it and, then, again, a shared drive aisle with the multi-family to the south and the
commercial to the north here. As part of the overall Pine 43 development the applicant
was required to provide cross-access for this development. So, they will have to provide
evidence of that prior to getting occupancy of this particular development. Because this
site does abut a residential district the code does restrict the hours of operation from 6:00
a.m. to 11:00 p.m. and the applicant's agreed to those conditions as well. So, they are
meeting code as far as hours of operation. I would mention to you that this is for -- this
-- the -- the commercial building is a multi-tenant building, approximately 9,800 square
feet and the drive-through tenant will be a restaurant use. I know Mr. Cassinelli is not
here tonight and he's a proponent of parking. Staff analyzed the parking as part of the
staff report. Because a restaurant use is going into this space the code requires one stall
for every 250 square feet of gross floor area. Staff has done the analysis based on that
ratio. It appears there is 48 parking stalls to accommodate that use, including additional
uses that may go into this development. So, if you look in -- in the lower corner --
southwest corner of the -- this site plan you can see the -- the keynote or, basically, a
vicinity map and you can see how there is shared parking and there will be additional
parking and commercial buildings on this particular property. Here is the landscape plan.
The applicant's required to provide a 20 foot buffer along North Webb Way, which is
occurring, as I mentioned to you, and, then, also a landscape buffer is required adjacent
to residential uses, which has also been addressed in the staff report. The applicant has
provided conceptual elevations. As part of the DA for this project the applicant was
required to have elevations that was complementary to the residential that was occurring,
so it was supposed to be a -- a consistent development -- development theme throughout
the Pine 43 development. This architecture that they are proposing is similar to the
existing building that's under construction currently and we reviewed with the previous
certificate of zoning compliance. I have had a chance to look at the public record. There
has been no public testimony on this particular application. Staff is recommending
approval with the conditions in the staff report and with that I would stand for any
questions you may have.
Seal: Thank you, Bill. At this time would the applicant like to come forward. Good
evening. Please state your name and address for the record.
Brozo: My name is Mandie Brozo with CSHQA, 200 Broad Street, Boise, Idaho. 83702.
Good evening. Pressures off, since everyone left. Got the mic at the right height, so --
thank you, Mr. Chair, Commission Members. We are here to present the Pad G multi-
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tenant retail. Right now it's only one drive through, unlike some of the other ones you
have seen that I have tried to put multiple drive throughs in one, but it's just one. We are
doing a very dense landscape buffer between us and the residents to the south and, then,
all of the residents' windows actually face east-west, so the wall, all the landscaping, will
hopefully help buffer any kind of traffic that you have going through that site.
Seal: Okay.
Brozo: And design review and CZC will be able to develop the elevations and anything
else you guys want to see.
Seal: Okay. Any questions for the applicant or staff?
Lorcher: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Lorcher, go ahead.
Lorcher: The multi -- the building is going to have multiple businesses in it. Which --
which way does the front door face? On Webb Way?
Brozo: It faces north towards Fairview.
Lorcher: Towards Fairview. But there is a building in front of it; correct?
Brozo: It's along the corner of--the hard corner of North Webb and Fairview and so there
is shared parking between the two and that building on the corner actually faces south
inwards towards -- so these buildings face each other.
Lorcher: Okay. So, there will be a sight line from Fairview to be able to see your
businesses and what their signs are?
Brozo: Yeah. One of the access points that actually wasn't addressed is that right there
that is directly off of Fairview.
Lorcher: And that's an access point to be able to get into this commercial area?
Brozo: Correct.
Lorcher: Okay. Thank you.
Seal: Commissioner Mr. Wheeler, go ahead.
Wheeler: Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mandie, I have got a question for you here. I'm just --
I'm looking at the site plan here. I'm seeing that the drive aisle that's going around onto
-- it looks like from the west side and, then, it comes around to the backside of the building
-- is that correct? Is that -- that's how I'm understanding it; right? And that looks like it's
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a drive aisle like for drive throughs for any sort of retail or commerce or food or anything
like that, that's the access for. Is that what I'm understanding?
Brozo: Technically that's just for the drive through.
Wheeler: Okay. Okay. So, is that -- but that's not like a loading area or anything like
this, this is actually for like retail pickup kind of -- things like that, like the drive through;
correct? So, you could actually have -- because there is multiple spaces in this building
and multiple retail, you could have multiple windows delivering off this backside, is that
the way you are seeing it or not?
Brozo: We are seeing it as the one drive through for the restaurant tenants and, then,
anybody else who would have to use that back rear loading would be parking not in that
drive aisle.
Wheeler: Okay. Okay. And where would that -- what would that look like with them not
being in that drive aisle and having access for loading on the rear?
Brozo: So, not actually knowing what the tenants are going to be for this space, hopefully
deliveries are happening during, you know, regular business hours. They do have that
drive aisle directly to the east. It is wide enough and we could possibly make it wider --
Wheeler: Okay.
Brozo: -- if we needed to for them to stop a truck, unload, get to the back of the spaces
or provide front entry loading.
Wheeler: Very good. Okay. Thank you.
Yearsley: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Go ahead.
Yearsley: Man, I think you missed your mark. I would have gone for two drive throughs
in this. I think this is prime for a lot of restaurant space given the commercial behind you,
but -- so, that was my only comment.
Brozo: There is still time. I mean --
Seal: All right. Any other questions for applicant or staff? No? All right. At this point we
will take public testimony if anybody is signed up.
Weatherly: Mr. Chair, we do have one person signed in, Carissa Sindon. I do believe
that name was --yeah -- stated on the first one, so besides that I don't see anybody online
or signed up.
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Seal: Okay. Anybody else in chambers? Okay. Unless you have anything else to add?
All right. Thank you. Okay. At this point can I get a motion to close the public hearing
for Item No. H-2021-0097.
Wheeler: So moved.
Yearsley: Second.
Seal: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing for Item No. H-2021-
0097. Whoever wants to jump in go right ahead.
McCarvel: Second. Should we vote on it?
Seal: Oh. That's -- that's true. So, it has been moved and seconded to close the public
hearing for Item No. H-2021-0097. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Seal: Now you can jump in. It seems like I'm talking a lot tonight.
Yearsley: It's only just begun.
Seal: Well, yes. Oh, yes.
Yearsley: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Yearsley, go right ahead.
Yearsley: I think they have done a great job. I like the idea of the screen wall along the
backside. I think that makes a lot of sense and -- and will help for the residents to the
south. So, yeah, with this I -- like I said, I still think they should have went for another
drive through and I will stand at that.
Wheeler: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Wheeler, go ahead.
Wheeler: I have a question with that. I'm going to kind of dovetail on what Commissioner
Yearsley is talking about here and ask staff about that. If we were to make a motion -- is
there a way that we could include something like that, like including up to two different
drive through access points on the -- or is that something that we are not able to do?
Parsons: I keep -- I almost called you Madam Chair. Apologies. Mr. Chair, Members of
the Commission, technically this has been advertised for a single drive through. So,
wouldn't advise us to add another drive through to your recommendation. Plus we haven't
had a chance to analyze that and do some of that analysis for you. Certainly if the
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applicant wants to propose another drive through on the site it can come back at that time
and they can take that up with the Commission. But tonight we are only acting on one
and that's what I would recommend we stay with.
Wheeler: Thank you.
Yearsley: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Yearsley, go ahead.
Yearsley: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony I move to recommend
approval to City Council -- no. Actually, this is we approve.
Seal: This is for approval. Correct.
Yearsley: Recommend approval of File No. H-2021-0097 as presented in the staff report
-- staff report for the hearing date of January 20th, 2022, with no modifications.
Wheeler: I second.
Seal: It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2021-0097. Did I say
recommend to approve? Sorry. It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No.
H-2021-0097 with no modifications. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? Okay. Motion
carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Yearsley: Mr. Chair?
Seal: Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: Before I -- or we end this meeting I just want to officially say that I really enjoyed
working with Rhonda both of my terms, so -- and you will be missed, so -- and I would
recommend that we let her, with a tear in her eye, make the last motion.
McCarvel: I wouldn't have had one until you said that, but I learned everything I know
from Commissioner Yearsley.
Seal: We look forward to welcoming you back.
Grove: And, Rhonda, I'm sorry I'm not there in person.
McCarvel: Yeah. I don't think this is a very stellar way to start off your term is vice-chair.
Mr. Chair, I move we adjourn.
Yearsley: Second.
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Seal: Is has been moved and seconded to adjourn. All those in favor say aye. Any
opposed? Motion carries. Thank you, everyone.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:10 P.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS.)
APPROVED
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ANDREW SEAL - CHAIRMAN DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK