RE_ Arby's - MeridianFrom:Dakota Gullickson
To:Alan Tiefenbach
Subject:RE: Arby"s - Meridian
Date:Thursday, October 1, 2020 3:00:15 PM
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Alan,
I am told from the owner:
That is probably our Landlord. We lease a lot of these. Pat Eulberg is the VP of Development for Flynn/RB American. Do I need to get the Landlord’s signature?
Flynn/RB American are the ownership group over this Arby’s. Do you need anything further on this? Thanks!
DAKOTA GULLICKSONProject Manager
1119 State Street, Suite 120Eagle, Idaho 83616p. 208.514.2713c. 208.869.7983
From: Alan Tiefenbach [mailto:atiefenbach@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 10:03 AM
To: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
Dakota,
I need some help with this.
The owner of the property is shown as PT-USRIF MERIDIAN LLC. The affidavit of legal interest that was submitted says Patrick J. Eulberg, VP of Real Estate is the owner.
Then there is some confusing signature information at the bottom (attached).
What this form is supposed to do is to show the owner of the property is designating ALC Architecture as the representative on this project and can deal with the City.
I need this form signed by the person(s) who can sign of behalf of PT-USRIF MERIDIAN LLC. This will probably include the operating agreement that shows who the
designated signatory is.
I know this is bureaucratic but I need proper authorization from the property owner that allows these façade changes.
Who is Patrick Eulberg, and if he can sign on behalf of the ownership, they need to authorize your firm to represent them.
Alan Tiefenbach | Current Associate Planner
City of Meridian | Community Development Dept.
33 E. Broadway Ave., Ste. 102, Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208-489-0573 | Fax: 208-489-0571
Built for Business, Designed for Living
From: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:53 PM
To: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
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Alan,
Please see the attached updated drawings with suggested changes. The new metal canopy continues and replaces all existing canopy locations. We have provided a
brown paint breaking up the northern elevation.
Please let us know what the next steps are and if we need to make any further adjustments to comply and satisfy Meridian Design standards.
Thanks,
DAKOTA GULLICKSONProject Manager
1119 State Street, Suite 120Eagle, Idaho 83616p. 208.514.2713c. 208.869.7983
From: Alan Tiefenbach [mailto:atiefenbach@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:51 PM
To: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
Terrific. You can email these directly.
Alan Tiefenbach | Current Associate Planner
City of Meridian | Community Development Dept.
33 E. Broadway Ave., Ste. 102, Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208-489-0573 | Fax: 208-489-0571
Built for Business, Designed for Living
From: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:50 PM
To: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
Alan,
I have confirmed these changes with our client and completed the updates in a new DR set of drawings. How would you like me to update this set? Email you or do I
need to do this online?
Thanks!
DAKOTA GULLICKSONProject Manager
1119 State Street, Suite 120Eagle, Idaho 83616p. 208.514.2713
c. 208.869.7983
From: Alan Tiefenbach [mailto:atiefenbach@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 4:54 PM
To: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
Dakota,
This proposal is removing existing architecture features (canopies) from the very visible north side and replacing it with a red band painted on the side of the building.
I’m struggling with how this is meeting the following of the Architectural Standards Manual (ASM):
1.11
Building design should address building scale, mass, form, and use a variety of materials and architectural features to ensure an aesthetic contribution compatible with
surrounding buildings.
1.1C
Incorporate architectural features on all sides of a building façade facing: the primary entrance(s) of an adjacent building, public roadways, interior site amenities, and
façades that are visible from public spaces. See Architectural Elements, Building Form, and Materials sections.
1.3A
Integrate at least one material change, color variation, or horizontal reveal for every 12-vertical feet of building façade; vertical spacing may be averaged over façade.
3.1A
Incorporate at least one type of the following modulations in the façade plane, including but not limited to projections, recesses, and step backs that articulate wall
planes and break up building
mass. Examples include but are not limited to columns with trim or accent materials, change in finished material depths, building overhangs, and inset features and
materials such as false windows or fenestration with architectural accents.
3.1B
Qualifying modulation must be at least 6-inches in depth, be at least 8-inches in width or height (whichever is narrowest), and occur in total for 20% of overall façade
elevation. For buildings with façades less than 150-feet, horizontal modulation must occur no less than every 30-feet. For buildings with façades greater than or equal to
150-feet, horizontal modulation must occur no less than every 50-feet.
I recommend, at the least, the north elevation have a color and material change such as the brown as shown on the south side, popping out that canopy band versus
painting a strip, and / or go with a different type of wainscoting.
I think your west and south sides meet the ASM, and you’re not proposing to remove anything from the rear. But as this currently exists, if your client insists, I’ll send this
up the chain with my position that I don’t think the north side meets the ASM. You could request a design exception, but at this point I would not support it.
Alan Tiefenbach | Current Associate Planner
City of Meridian | Community Development Dept.
33 E. Broadway Ave., Ste. 102, Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208-489-0573 | Fax: 208-489-0571
Built for Business, Designed for Living
From: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 4:11 PM
To: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
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The EIFS will be the same eifs that exists now, just repainted. See photo below for what exists.
From: Alan Tiefenbach [mailto:atiefenbach@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 3:59 PM
To: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
Does the EIFS wainscoting have textures, stamped, etc. or is it a plain EIFS? Do you have a picture?
Alan Tiefenbach | Current Associate Planner
City of Meridian | Community Development Dept.
33 E. Broadway Ave., Ste. 102, Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208-489-0573 | Fax: 208-489-0571
Built for Business, Designed for Living
From: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 3:53 PM
To: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
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Alan,
You are seeing it correctly. We did not extend the metal accent band around due to Arby’s corporate wanting it to die into the wall where we show it.
In the picture, it has stone. This is not the case for the meridian store though. The Meridian store is designed to have an EIFS wainscot in the brown color around the
front and grey around the back.
Thanks,
DAKOTA GULLICKSONProject Manager
1119 State Street, Suite 120Eagle, Idaho 83616p. 208.514.2713c. 208.869.7983
From: Alan Tiefenbach [mailto:atiefenbach@meridiancity.org]
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 3:38 PM
To: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Cc: Jeff Likes <Jeff@alcarchitecture.com>
Subject: RE: Arby's - Meridian
Dakota, thanks for the response. This helps me understand the color scheme.
Looking at the store you sent me, it appears there is a similar canopy or band element on the front of the store, and it appears that canopy band carries around to at
least the drive through window before it transitions to a painted on stripe. Is that correct, and if so, why didn’t you do this with elevation proposed for Meridian? Or am I
not seeing this correct in that the canopy band does project and your repainting this, not painting a stripe on the wall?
Also, is that EFIS or stone at the base of the store provided in the picture?
Alan Tiefenbach | Current Associate Planner
City of Meridian | Community Development Dept.
33 E. Broadway Ave., Ste. 102, Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208-489-0573 | Fax: 208-489-0571
Built for Business, Designed for Living
From: Dakota Gullickson <DakotaG@alcarchitecture.com>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2020 1:34 PM
To: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Jeff Likes <Jeff@alcarchitecture.com>
Subject: Arby's - Meridian
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Alan,
Please see responses below,
Do you know of an Arby’s where the exact template you are proposing has already been completed? We’d really like to see a photo. A similar case is below. This isn’t
exactly what we are doing but you can get a jist of the color scheme.
The present Arby’s has red canopies that project off the walls along the western half of the building. This proposal removes the canopies along the sides and replaces
them with a painted on stripe. We don’t intend to require an existing building to meet the entire architectural standards just for some façade upgrades and painting.
However, removing the canopies along the sides and not replacing them with a similar architectural element brings this further out of compliance with the Architectural
Standards Manual (ASM) which is something that the City can enforce. I recommend you consider carrying those metal canopy bands around the sides to the back, or
propose something comparable to replace the canopies you are removing. Painting a red band isn’t going to comply. If the city requires us to provide a band around
where the existing fabric canopies are, we will certainly comply. Should we make this adjustment now or should we wait and see?
And help me understand the color scheme. On the northern elevation I see pure white, with just a portion of it brown at the front and the red stripe. Is this correct, only
the front and a portion of the base on the northern elevation is brown? The front has a white/brick stamped EIFS at the pinnacle. The brown on each side of the pinnacle
above the red band. Below the band is white around the windows and the brown below the windows as a wainscot which runs around the entire building.
On the southern elevation I see the same thing except the drive through area is also brown. Are you really proposing to only paint the front brown, except for the drive
through area? On Sheet A4.1, which I’ve attached for you, it shows the entire color scheme around the building with callouts for clarity. All the exterior facade is based
on Arby’s new prototypes and design standards, but we understand if we need to adjust those a bit to comply with city requirements and standards. They include, white
eifs, white brick-stamped eifs, brown eifs, red eifs, grey eifs, and red canopies.
Thanks Alan,
DAKOTA GULLICKSONProject Manager
1119 State Street, Suite 120
Eagle, Idaho 83616p. 208.514.2713
c. 208.869.7983
City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208-888-4433
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