2021-10-21 Mark Aronson
Charlene Way
From:Chris Johnson
Sent:Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:01 PM
To:Charlene Way
Subject:Fw: The Dalton Royal CZCU-2021-0016 Email Follow up
Please add to the record. No responses needed. I forwarded to Joe.
Chris
From: Mark Aronson <fourinidaho1@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:06 PM
To: Chris Johnson
Subject: Re: The Dalton Royal CZCU-2021-0016 Email Follow up
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Yes, all very wordy descriptions of proposed this development which as we all know can and will morph into
something other than what is approved. Happens all the time because city planning does not do there due
diligence especially when they know that their dealing with a lion in sheep clothing!
We just turn a blind eye and not realize who we are dealing with especially after Mr. Tsai’s last presentation, it
was full of lies and deceptions! That is apparently part of his plan again! Very sad!
I wouldn’t know what questions to ask of your processes because your process is broken!
Sincerely!
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:56 PM Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org> wrote:
The following is sent on behalf of the City of Meridian Planning Department.
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out regarding The Dalton Royal (CZCU-2021-0016) application. The proposed use is for
a restaurant and indoor recreation facility, both principally permitted uses in the C-G (General Retail and
Service Commercial District) zoning district. The property has been annexed and zoned C-G since 2005 when
it was part of the Sadie Creek Commons commercial subdivision.
City Staff and elected officials understand the concerns outlined in the written testimony on this project and
the preceding Oasis application that was denied by City Council. However, the proposed uses are principally
permitted which means they only require administrative, staff level review. There is no public hearing for
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administrative applications. On October 15, City Staff issued a Certificate of Zoning Compliance, Change of
Use (CZCU) approval for a restaurant/indoor recreation facility use for the tenant space. This is a different use
than the previously proposed Oasis nightclub which was a Drinking Establishment. The use of a
restaurant/indoor recreation facility on this site is consistent with the existing Development Agreement.
Under Unified Development Code (UDC) 11-5A-4, any person who wants to be a party of record with regard
to the CZCU can request so in writing. A party of record may seek City Council review of the administrative
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decision on or before November 1, 2021, within fifteen (15) days after the written decision was issued, pay
the $692 application fee, and include the information listed in UDC 11-5A-6B.
The complete project file is located at
https://weblink.meridiancity.org/WebLink/Browse.aspx?id=239966&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity
Should you have any other specific questions regarding our processes, please feel free to reach out to the
Planning Department.
Thank you,
Joseph Dodson, Associate Planner
planningapplications@meridiancity.org
208.884.5533
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Chris Johnson
From:Liz Strader
Sent:Thursday, October 21, 2021 9:29 PM
To:Mark Aronson; City Clerk; Bill Nary
Subject:Re: Dalton Royal ( AKA Oasis)
Thank you Mr. Aronson,
I would love to discuss, but I am hearing from our legal team that the CZC may be appealed, and as such, I
cannot discuss if I am to potentially vote on this as a future matter.
I am forwarding to the clerk's office to add this to the record,
Have a great day!
Liz
Liz Strader | City Councilwoman
City of Meridian | City Council Office
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: | 208-546-9501
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From: Mark Aronson <fourinidaho1@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 5:17:01 PM
To: Liz Strader
Subject: Fwd: Dalton Royal ( AKA Oasis)
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From: Mark Aronson <fourinidaho1@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Dalton Royal ( AKA Oasis)
To: Luke Cavener <lcavener@meridiancity.org>
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Absolutely!
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:50 PM Luke Cavener <lcavener@meridiancity.org> wrote:
Well, I appreciate you too. Passing along emails like this help a ton!
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Mark Aronson <fourinidaho1@gmail.com> wrote:
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Thank you! I will look forward to hearing from you!
We appreciate you!
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:44 PM Luke Cavener <lcavener@meridiancity.org> wrote:
Because it sounds like it’s been approved and it wasn’t before the council I should be able to talk
about all that I learn. I’ll work to be in touch.
Thanks!
LC
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Mark Aronson <fourinidaho1@gmail.com> wrote:
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Absolutely,
Please keep me informed if your allowed!
I’m a very interested citizen when it comes to all the political theater involved here!
Thanks so much for your service to our community!
Sincerely,
Mark
On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 1:29 PM Luke Cavener <lcavener@meridiancity.org> wrote:
Mark, thanks.
I learned about this administrative decision late last night. I’m working to get more
information on the how and the why. Appreciate you sharing your feedback and
comments.
Luke
2086954536
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 20, 2021, at 1:25 PM, Mark Aronson <fourinidaho1@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Mayor, city council members and esteemed colleagues,
> I am writing to appeal to your decency in the findings of Mr. Tsai’s proposal to set
up shop as the Dalton Royal in the Wadsworth pad area on the corner of Eagle Rd.
And Ustick St.
> As a Meridian resident and a Jackson Square homeowner, all the same reasons why
so many of us vehemently were against the building of the Oasis still apply simply
because the proposed Dalton Royal is just dressed up with different ingredients as
the Oasis but with different ingredients. Simply put, if it walks like a duck, talks like a
duck it is still just a duck and the same can be said about the Dalton Royal. It still will
pose the same safety hazards, parking concerns and many other issues that were
addressed originally when the Oasis was firmly denied.
> As I recall, what made the most sense to most of us including council members was
that these ideas of Mr. Thai were all good progressive ideas for Meridian but just not
in that area.
> The same holds true for the proposed Dalton Royal. It will potentially morph into
something bigger by design and rear it’s true self down the line when nothing can be
done to stop it so for the sake of your titles and what you stand for the city of
Meridian, please stop Mr. Thai in his tracks and do not allow him from building on
site.
> There are many fine areas in Meridian to build the Oasis and the same should be
true
> for the Dalton Royal.
> Thank you for your time and great success in keeping Meridian safe.
> Regards,
> Mark Aronson
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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Chris Johnson
From:Mark Aronson <fourinidaho1@gmail.com>
Sent:Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:06 PM
To:Chris Johnson
Subject:Re: The Dalton Royal CZCU-2021-0016 Email Follow up
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
Yes, all very wordy descriptions of proposed this development which as we all know can and will morph into something
other than what is approved. Happens all the time because city planning does not do there due diligence especially
when they know that their dealing with a lion in sheep clothing!
We just turn a blind eye and not realize who we are dealing with especially after Mr. Tsai’s last presentation, it was full
of lies and deceptions! That is apparently part of his plan again! Very sad!
I wouldn’t know what questions to ask of your processes because your process is broken!
Sincerely!
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 3:56 PM Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org> wrote:
The following is sent on behalf of the City of Meridian Planning Department.
Hello,
Thank you for reaching out regarding The Dalton Royal (CZCU-2021-0016) application. The proposed use is for a
restaurant and indoor recreation facility, both principally permitted uses in the C-G (General Retail and Service
Commercial District) zoning district. The property has been annexed and zoned C-G since 2005 when it was part of the
Sadie Creek Commons commercial subdivision.
City Staff and elected officials understand the concerns outlined in the written testimony on this project and the
preceding Oasis application that was denied by City Council. However, the proposed uses are principally permitted
which means they only require administrative, staff level review. There is no public hearing for administrative
th
applications. On October 15, City Staff issued a Certificate of Zoning Compliance, Change of Use (CZCU) approval for a
restaurant/indoor recreation facility use for the tenant space. This is a different use than the previously proposed Oasis
nightclub which was a Drinking Establishment. The use of a restaurant/indoor recreation facility on this site is
consistent with the existing Development Agreement.
Under Unified Development Code (UDC) 11-5A-4, any person who wants to be a party of record with regard to the
CZCU can request so in writing. A party of record may seek City Council review of the administrative decision on or
before November 1, 2021, within fifteen (15) days after the written decision was issued, pay the $692 application fee,
and include the information listed in UDC 11-5A-6B.
The complete project file is located at
https://weblink.meridiancity.org/WebLink/Browse.aspx?id=239966&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity
Should you have any other specific questions regarding our processes, please feel free to reach out to the Planning
Department.
Thank you,
Joseph Dodson, Associate Planner
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planningapplications@meridiancity.org
208.884.5533
All e-mail messages sent to or received by City of Meridian e-mail accounts are subject to the Idaho law, in regards to
both release and retention, and may be released upon request, unless exempt from disclosure by law.
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