2021-07-20 Regular
City Council Regular Meeting
City Council Chambers, 33 East Broadway Avenue Meridian, Idaho
Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 6:00 PM
Minutes
ROLL CALL ATTENDANCE
PRESENT
Councilwoman Liz Strader
Councilman Joe Borton
Councilman Brad Hoaglun
Councilman Treg Bernt
Councilwoman Jessica Perreault
Mayor Robert E. Simison
ABSENT
Councilman Luke Cavener
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
COMMUNITY INVOCATION
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
PUBLIC FORUM – Future Meeting Topics
RESOLUTIONS \[Action Item\]
1. Resolution No. 21-2277: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City Council of the City
of Meridian, Appointing Tyler Ricks to Seat 3 of the Historic Preservation
Commission from July 20, 2021 through October 31, 2023; and Providing an
Effective Date Approved
Motion to made by Councilman Hoaglun, Seconded by Councilwoman Perreault.
Voting Yea: Councilwoman Strader, Councilman Borton, Councilman Hoaglun, Councilman
Bernt, Councilwoman Perreault
ACTION ITEMS
2. Public Hearing for the Proposed Fall 2021 Fee Schedule of the Meridian Parks and
Recreation Department
3. Resolution No. 21-2275: A Resolution Adopting the Fall 2021 Fee Schedule of the
Meridian Parks and Recreation Department; Authorizing the Meridian Parks and
Recreation Department to Collect Such Fees; and Providing an Effective Date
Approved
Motion to approve made by Councilwoman Perreault, Seconded by Councilman Borton.
Voting Yea: Councilwoman Strader, Councilman Borton, Councilman Hoaglun, Councilman
Bernt, Councilwoman Perreault
4. Public Hearing for Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program Year
2021 Action Plan
5. Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0004) by Robert Black Jr. of Land Baron
Investments, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd. Appeal Granted, CUP Approval
Revoked
A. Request: City Council Review of the Planning and Zoning Commission’s
decision of approval for The Oasis Conditional Use Permit (H-2021-0004) to
operate a drinking establishment, nightclub, and music venue on a portion of
3.26 acres of land in the C-G zone.
Motion to grant appeal and deny the Conditional Use Permit made by Councilman Borton,
Seconded by Councilman Hoaglun.
Voting Yea: Councilwoman Strader, Councilman Borton, Councilman Hoaglun, Councilman
Bernt, Councilwoman Perreault
6. Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0005) by Michael and Cherilyn Kynaston
and Jon and Cheri Hoeger, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd. Appeal Granted, CUP
Approval Revoked
A. Request: Council Review of the Planning and Zoning Commission’s decision
of approval for The Oasis Conditional Use Permit (H-2021-0004) to operate a
drinking establishment, nightclub, and music venue on a portion of 3.26 acres
of land in the C-G zoning district.
Motion to grant appeal and deny the Conditional Use Permit made by Councilman Borton,
Seconded by Councilman Hoaglun.
Voting Yea: Councilwoman Strader, Councilman Borton, Councilman Hoaglun, Councilman
Bernt, Councilwoman Perreault
ORDINANCES \[Action Item\]
7. Ordinance No.: 21-1935: An Ordinance (H-2021-0014 – Artemisia Subdivision) for
Annexation of a Parcel Being a Portion of the SE ¼ of the SE ¼ of Section 14,
Township 3 North, Range 1 West, Ada County, Idaho, and Being More Particularly
Described in Attachment “A” and Annexing Certain Lands and Territory, Situated in
Ada County, Idaho, and Adjacent and Contiguous to the Corporate Limits of the City
of Meridian as Requested by the City of Meridian; Establishing and Determining the
Land Use Zoning Classification of 25.67 Acres of Land from RUT to C-G (General
Retail and Service Commercial) Zoning District in the Meridian City Code; Providing
that Copies of this Ordinance Shall be Filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada
County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as Required by Law; and
Providing for a Summary of the Ordinance; and Providing for a Waiver of the
Reading Rules; and Providing an Effective Date Approved
Motion to approve made by Councilwoman Perreault, Seconded by Councilman Hoaglun.
Voting Yea: Councilwoman Strader, Councilman Borton, Councilman Hoaglun, Councilman
Bernt, Councilwoman Perreault
FUTURE MEETING TOPICS
ADJOURNMENT – 12:11 am
Meridian City Council July 20, 2021.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 6:03 p.m., Tuesday, July
20, 2021, by Mayor Robert Simison.
Members Present: Robert Simison, Joe Borton, Treg Bernt, Jessica Perreault, Brad
Hoaglun and Liz Strader.
Members Absent: Luke Cavener.
Also present: Chris Johnson, Bill Nary, Bill Parsons, Joe Dodson, Crystal Campbell,
Jamie Leslie, Kris Blume and Dean Willis.
ROLL-CALL ATTENDANCE
Liz Strader _X_ Joe Borton
_X_ Brad Hoaglun _X_Treg Bernt
_X_ Jessica Perreault Luke Cavener
_X_ Mayor Robert E. Simison
Simison: Council, we will call the meeting to order. For the record it is July 20th, 2021,
at 6:03 p.m. We will begin today's City Council meeting with roll call attendance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Simison: Next item is the Pledge of Allegiance. If you would all, please, rise and join us
in the pledge.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
COMMUNITY INVOCATION
Simison: Our next item is the community invocation, which will be delivered tonight by
Pastor Tim Pusey, with Valley Shepherd Church. If you would all, please, join us in the
community invocation or take this as a moment of silence. Pastor.
Pusey: Thank you. Father God, we know that it is you, our creator, who can safeguard
us and care for our steps on the path of life. Psalm 119 tells us your word is a lamp to
my feet and a light to my path. And we pray, Lord, that our plans would align with your
plans, both for our city and for our lives, and we pray you set before us the good path
allowing us to be influenced by your spirit and by your grace. May all of our steps honor
you and may we always seek the best path and ultimate good for our community and the
people of our community. Thank you, Lord, for the members of our City Council and for
our Mayor, who are dedicated and diligent servants of the people of Meridian and thank
you for the many who serve our community behind the scenes here at City Hall and
people like our first responders and school teachers and hospital workers and many
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others. We truly are blessed as a community and we thank you and we ask for your
continued blessings as we move forward into the future. Help us all to be good citizens
who truly care for others and when we get overwhelmed with all the challenges before us
remind us that you are faithful God and we can look to you and trust you and lean on you.
We embrace these truths as we call upon you this evening. Please go before our City
Council in all of the decisions, all the discussions that they have this evening. In your
name we pray, amen.
ADOPTION OF AGENDA
Simison: Thank you. Now, is up the adoption of the agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move to adopt the agenda as published.
Borton: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and
the agenda is adopted.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
PUBLIC FORUM — Future Meeting Topics
Simison: Mr. Clerk, do we have anyone signed up under public forum?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, the only sign-ups were actually for an item later on the agenda, so
none for tonight.
RESOLUTIONS [Action Item]
1. Resolution No. 21-2277: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City
Council of the City of Meridian, Appointing Tyler Ricks to Seat 3 of the
Historic Preservation Commission from July 20, 2021 through October
31, 2023; and Providing an Effective Date
Simison: Okay. Thank you. Then we will move on to our first item of business, which is
Resolution No. 21-2277, appointing Tyler Ricks to Seat 3 of the Historic Preservation
Commission and I think -- where is Tyler? Is he in the room? Oh, there he is. Excellent.
Well, Tyler, we won't have you come up just right now. Wait until after the vote from that
standpoint, but, Council, you have before you a resolution appointing Tyler Ricks to the
Historic Preservation Commission. Tyler is really helping fill a niche that was vacated by
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Jacy when she left. She was really kind of doing the social media work for HPC and I
don't know if you -- any of you personally follow Mr. Ricks on social media or all the work
that he does, but he's really helping fill that void in that position. He is also an avid knower
of all sorts of history, political, Meridian, and otherwise, and is dedicated to serving our
community. He comes from the example of what we try to do with Mayor Tammy when
she started the Mayor's Youth Advisory Council. You know, part of the role of the Mayor's
Youth Advisory Council is to find people that are going to be giving back to the community
in the future and I think he is a great example coming out of that program and in finding
a way to serve the community. So, it's with my honor to recommend him to you to serve
out the remainder of the Historic Preservation Commission term that was recently
vacated. Be happy to stand for any questions you have.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: No questions. Just a quick comment. I have known Tyler for a long time. He is
a young man, but -- but he has been around our community and active. So, I appreciate
you bringing forth Tyler with this recommendation to fill this important post.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Bernt.
Bernt: I echo Council -- Councilman Borton's words. I also wanted to add that, you know,
Tyler Ricks was once a member of our MYAC program and I believe he is the first elected
official from our MYAC program -- and for those who don't know what MYAC is, it's our --
it's the Meridian Youth -- or excuse me -- Meridian Mayor's Youth Advisory Committee and
it's -- local high school students are involved. They learn leadership and they learn what
we do as a city and they perform a lot of service and so -- and as we all know, Tyler was
just recently elected as a -- as a Meridian Library District trustee. So, I know Tyler real
well. Congratulations, Tyler, and can't wait to see what you do on this -- on this
commission.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Unless there is further comments, I will move that we approve Resolution No.
21-2277 appointing Tyler Rick's to Seat 3 of the Historic Preservation Commission from
July 20th, 2021 , through October 31 st, 2023, and providing an effective date.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, second that motion.
Simison: I have a motion a second. Is there any discussion? If not, all in favor signify
by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it and Tyler is appointment.
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MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Simison: Now, Tyler, would you like to come forward and make some comments?
Ricks: I know you guys have a full agenda, so I will just keep it quick. I just want to say
thank you to the Mayor and City Council for appointing me to the commission. I'm excited
to bring a different skill set to the Commission on focusing on more the digital aspect of
tracking our history for Meridian. I'm excited to serve in this role. Thank you.
ACTION ITEMS
2. Public Hearing for the Proposed Fall 2021 Fee Schedule of the
Meridian Parks and Recreation Department
Simison: Thank you, Tyler. Council, moving on, we will move on to Item No. 2, which is
the public hearing for the proposed fall 2021 fee schedule for the Meridian Parks and
Recreation Department and I will turn this over to Jenna.
Fletcher: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of Council. In front of you you have the
resolution for our 2021 fall fee schedule and I'm open to questions if you guys have any.
Simison: Council, any questions?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Jenna, can you just let us know a synopsis of what fees have changed and
why?
Fletcher: Yeah. So, actually, one of the only things that have changed is our pickleball
class and that's due to increase in cost of supplies, paddles, balls and, then, instructor
fees. So, everything else has stayed the same.
Simison: Council, any other questions?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: If there are no questions, I would like to make a motion to --
Simison: Oh. This is a public hearing, so we will need to --
Perreault: My apologies.
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Simison: Jenna, you want to take a seat we will -- this is a public hearing. If there is
anybody in the audience that would like to provide testimony on this item, instead of
something else this evening, you are welcome to come forward now and discuss the
parks and rec fees for fall 2021. Mr. Clerk, did we have anyone sign up to provide
testimony on this item?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we did, but I am unsure, so I will just ask. Dan Conner? Okay.
Then maybe for later in the meeting.
Simison: If there is anybody online who would like to provide testimony on this item, if
you can use the raise your hand feature at the bottom of the Zoom platform and we can
bring you in. Okay. I'm seeing nobody wanting to come forward or no one online, so --
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: We have a full crowd, so I want to ask one question if I could. Pickleball is the
rage. How many people out here play pickleball? Just kind of curious. All right. There
is a huge demand in the class and demand for court time, so I figured I would ask the
crowded room to see if there is pickleballers out here.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor, I'm obviously remote. Just from the raise of hands it looked like there
was like 80 to 90 percent of the people raise their hand.
Simison: Councilman Bernt, we may have to work on your visual optics to understand
the testimony this evening. With that, no one wishing to provide testimony, do I -- do
have a motion to close the public hearing? Well, actually we opened the public hearing,
I believe. So, do I have a motion to close the public hearing?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, so moved.
Simison: I have a motion. Do I have a second?
Borton: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there any
discussion on the motion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The
ayes have it and the public hearing is closed.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
3. Resolution No. 21-2275: A Resolution Adopting the Fall 2021 Fee
Schedule of the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department;
Authorizing the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department to Collect
Such Fees; and Providing an Effective Date
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Simison: Next up is Item 3, Resolution No. 21-2275.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve Resolution -- Resolution No. 21-2275, a
resolution adopting the Fall 2021 Fee Schedule of the Meridian Parks and Recreation
Department authorizing the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department to collect such
fees and providing for an effective date.
Borton: Second.
Simison: I have a motion and a second regarding approving Resolution No. 21-2275. Is
there any discussion? If not, Clerk will call the roll.
Roll call: Borton, yea; Cavener, absent; Bernt, yea; Perreault, yea; Hoaglun, yea; Strader,
yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries and the resolution is agreed to.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
4. Public Hearing for Community Development Block Grant (CDBG)
Program Year 2021 Action Plan
Simison: Item 4 is a public hearing for Community Development Block Grant of CDBG
Program Year 2021 Action Plan and I will open this public hearing with staff comments
and turn this over Crystal.
Campbell: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. As you said, I'm here to
present the CDBG program -- program year '21 action plan, which runs from October
2021 to September 2022. The action plan is just a way to identify strategies that meet
the goals of the consolidated plan for the upcoming year. So, for this upcoming year we
have identified several projects that we are putting funding toward. The first one is admin
and fair housing activities. We are also funding a couple of different public services. The
first one is Jesse Tree Rental -- Emergency Rental Assistance Program and we are also
providing funding for the Boys and Girls Clubs Scholarships For Youth Program. We --
under housing we are funding the Neighborworks Boise Homeowner Repair Program and
as a backup project we will have homebuyer assistance and for accessibility we will be
replacing the Chateau Park playground and incorporating a pathway to a low to moderate
income neighborhood and have a couple of streetlight modernization projects were the
backups. So, part of the action plan process is to get community engagement to make
sure that the goals in the comp plan are still relevant. We do this by opening the public
comment period. Working with stakeholders to gather their feedback. We provide two
public presentations and, then, we also have a public hearing. So, we only received one
comment outside of the comments in the presentation last time from Council. It's from
one of our sub recipients -- a current sub recipient. He said I believe the City of Meridian
CDBG programs are an extremely important means to help the underserved populations
of Meridian grow, thrive, age in place and have a safe secure place to call home. It's
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been proven that those who have a safe, secure home excel in life, whether it be in school,
at their job, or in their personal lives. There were only a couple of places where we made
changes in the previously submitted action plan. Most of it was grammatical errors. There
was a couple of them in there. And, then, other than that it was all about public comments
and the public hearing piece. So, on page two we updated the summary of public
comments. Page 16 we removed unity through inclusion from the list of groups consulted,
because it no longer exists and we updated the summary of comments received. Page
51 we also updated the public comments. And on page 53 we included the areas where
we have provided public notice. So, the final steps to accept this tonight, after this
presentation I would ask the Council to open the public hearing. Once that's done, then,
I would ask Council to close the public comment period. Next week, then, I will provide
the final report and the resolution on the Consent Agenda and once I have the resolution
signed, then, I will be able to submit the application to HUD. And with that I will conclude
my presentation.
Simison: Thank you, Crystal. Council, any questions for staff?
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Not a question, just a quick comment. There is a lot of substantive good that
comes from all the work that you do to organize this, but a lot of extremely technical
proficiency that you bring to it. I mean you are jumping through a lot of hoops and some
pretty intense federal regulation and you do it really well. So, in addition to all the great
service that goes to our community with this program, thanks for making sure that it's
administered accurately.
Campbell: Thank you.
Borton: Really appreciated.
Campbell: Thanks.
Simison: Any additional questions for staff? Well, this is a public hearing. Mr. Clerk, do
we have anybody signed up to provide testimony on this item?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, sort of, but I can't tell if it's for this or not, so I would just ask for a
raise of hands.
Simison: Okay. Is there anybody that would like to provide testimony on the CDBG public
hearing this evening? And if you are in person or online use the raise your hand function
at the bottom of Zoom. Council, seeing no one coming forward or raising their hand
online, do I have a motion to close the public hearing?
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Move we close the public hearing on Item 4, the Community Development Block
Grant Program Year 2021 Action Plan.
Hoaglun: Second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there any
discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Those opposed no. The ayes have
it and the public hearing is closed and we will see you back next week. Thank you,
Crystal.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
5. Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0004) by Robert Black Jr. of
Land Baron Investments, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: City Council Review of the Planning and Zoning
Commission's decision of approval for The Oasis Conditional Use
Permit (H-2021-0004) to operate a drinking establishment, nightclub,
and music venue on a portion of 3.26 acres of land in the C-G zone.
6. Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0005) by Michael and Cherilyn
Kynaston and Jon and Cheri Hoeger, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: Council Review of the Planning and Zoning Commission's
decision of approval for The Oasis Conditional Use Permit (H-2021-
0004) to operate a drinking establishment, nightclub, and music
venue on a portion of 3.26 acres of land in the C-G zoning district.
Simison: Okay. Next items up are public hearing for The Oasis CR-2021-0004 and public
hearing for the Oasis CR-2021-0005. I will turn this over to Mr. Nary.
Nary: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council. So, I thought it would be best for
both the Mayor and Council, as well as the audience, the applicant and the appellant, to
sort of read basically the purpose of the hearing tonight, how the order of the hearing will
go. So, I'm going to go ahead and read this to make sure it's all clear for the record,
because this being a land use decision that's being made by the City Council, the record
is by far the most critical piece that we want to make sure it's clear, because this project,
depending on the outcome, could be appealed to the District Court. So, I want to take a
moment to explain the purpose of the hearing, the order of those speaking, the decision
points for the City Council and the land use hearing process. So, first, the purpose of the
hearing. Although the Planning and Zoning Commission has approved the conditional
use permit here, the CUP, the city code allows for this appeal and the city code states that
this is now a trial de novo. What that means from a legal term is that this is a new decision.
So, the original decision is still part of the record and it still could be considered by the
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City Council in their deliberation and decision here, but the decision is the Council's. It's
a new decision. It's not just an overturn or upheld -- upholding of the prior decision, it is
an independent decision of this Council on whether to grant the CUP for this proposed
use. So, the order of the parties speaking -- planning staff is going to advise the City
Council on what the application is about, what the project is and what was before the
Planning and Zoning Commission and, then, what was decided by them. The Mayor and
the City Council can, then, hear the two hearings together. That is our recommendation
is to combine the hearings together, because of the -- from the record standpoint it's
incredibly awkward to try to separate out one issue from another, since there are some
similarities and some differences between them and the Council has the authority and the
Mayor to hold them as one hearing and I would recommend that. The appellant Mr. Black
filed his own individual appeal and, then, the Hoegers and the Kynastons -- and I
apologize if I have pronounced those incorrectly -- filed a joint appeal. So, under our
process they have a combined 30 minutes to present their case and why this application
should be denied. The parties can decide together if they wish to divide their time up
differently than 15 minutes apiece. If they can't reconcile that -- that separation, then,
each party -- Mr. Black's appeal is one appeal, the other combined appeal is a separate
appeal, but there is just two appeals before the Council. Each side gets at least 15
minutes to present their case. The applicant Mr. Tsai, the property owner in this case, will
get 30 minutes to respond and allow him the opportunity to present his project to the
Mayor and Council and respond to any of the appellant's arguments that they have
provided. Once that's concluded and any questions the Council has had for either the
appellants or the applicants, there could be public testimony and our -- and our process
that we use for the city -- each member of the public gets three minutes per person. The
Mayor can grant up to ten minutes if someone is representing an HOA and that's within
the Mayor's discretion. The appellants, then, at the end -- the appellants get -- at this
point -- pardon me. After all the public testimony is completed the applicant, again, Mr.
Tsai, gets 15 minutes to provide any rebuttal to the public testimony that he wishes to
provide and, then, ultimately, the appellants get another 15 minutes and they get the last
word before the Council on why their position should be upheld and why their position
should be what the Council should find in favor of. So, they will all have an opportunity
to be heard. Then any last questions for the Mayor or Council can be brought out. If
there is -- at that point the Mayor and the Council decide they need more time or more
information as needed, that they might need to continue this matter to a future date to
gather more information or gather additional evidence, they can do that. If not, the Council
can make a decision tonight. The key points here I think that we need to make sure it's
clear for the record -- the Council should base its determination on a conditional use
permit according to our code and that has specific points that the Council needs to
consider in granting or denying an application for a conditional use permit. So, those
particular points are that the site itself is large enough to accommodate the proposed use
and meet all the dimensional and development regulations in the district for which its use
is to be located. The proposed use will be harmonious with the Meridian Comprehensive
Plan and in accordance with the requirements of the Uniform Development Code. That
the design, construction, operation and maintenance will be compatible with other uses
in the general neighborhood, with the existing or intended character of the general vicinity
and that such use will not adversely change the essential character of the same area.
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That the proposed use, if it complies with all the conditions of the approval, and it will not
adversely affect other properties in the vicinity. That the proposed use will be served
adequately by essential public facilities and services, such as highways, streets, schools,
parks, police, fire protection, drainage structures, refuse disposal, water and sewer. That
the proposed use will not create excessive additional costs for public facilities and
services and will not be detrimental to the economic welfare of the community. That their
proposed use will not involve activities or processes, materials, equipment and conditions
of operation that will be detrimental to any persons, property, or the general welfare by
reason of excessive production of traffic, noise, smoke, fumes, glare or odor. That the
proposed use will not result in the destruction, loss, or damage of a natural scenic or
historic feature considered to be of major importance. Additional findings for alteration or
extension of the nonconformity--the nonconforming use could be allowed. The proposed
use does not encourage or set a precedent for additional uses of this type within the area
that may not be compliant and that the proposed use is developed in a similar or greater
level of conformity with the development standards as set forth in Uniform Development
Code. From the legal perspective it's -- it's a discretionary decision of the Council to find
these. It's not required by code or state code that they find every one of them or they
dismiss every one of them. It is a balance between all of them as to how they would
impact the neighborhood, the community, and the city as a whole. So, that's the charge
they have in this in determining if there are sufficient conditions that could be placed on
this use that will allow it to, then, comply with the code. So, that's the purpose of why it's
termed conditional use. Can there be uses conditioned on this -- on this project to make
it comply with what's required by code. So, the land use hearing process we need a clear
record, because this is a Council appealable. As I said, we have a stenographer here to
maintain the record. We like people to stay within their allotted time for their remarks. It
can be extended by the Mayor or City Council if they have questions. Testimony that
doesn't address the decision points that the Council will have to make are certainly within
the purview of the person making the testimony, but, again, if it doesn't relate to the points
that the Council has to do, it may or may not be considered with the same weight as
others. So, just to be aware of how that's viewed. Mr. Mayor, unless there is other
questions, I think that's sufficient enough to set the stage for moving forward and, again,
the next would be Planning.
Simison: Thank you, Mr. Nary. Council, any questions for legal before we move forward?
Okay. Just hopefully to try to set the tone. I hope everyone tonight came with their best
behavior on. Let's keep all comments respectful, focus on the information, hopefully, you
just heard from this the city attorney from that standpoint. You know, that's -- that's how
we would like to do things here in Meridian and keep everything good. I will be very
adherent to the three minutes or whatever is authorized as Mr. Nary just talked about this
evening. You will hear-- you will hear an overhead beeper. Once you hear that overhead
beeper, if you are still speaking, I would ask you to, please, wrap up your comments. That
way I don't have to ask you to do it myself, but we have got a lot of people in here, we
want to get through all the people that have come outside that want to provide testimony.
So, let's be respectful of people's time this evening. So, with that I would ask Council if
you would like to open both public hearings at the same time.
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Borton: Yes. Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: That sounds to be the most efficient for everyone involved.
Simison: Okay. With that we will open the public hearing for The Oasis, CR-2021-0004
and public hearing for the Oasis CR-2021-0005. We will open these public hearings with
staff comments and turn this over to Joe.
Dodson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Members of Council and members of the public. Thank
you for being here tonight. As noted before you tonight are two Council reviews for the
previously approved by Planning and Zoning Commission conditional use permit for The
Oasis. Go over a few different things and I will try to be succinct as well, just because I'm
sure we have all read and understood the staff report, as well as public testimony from
the previous hearings. The subject site, which is located at the southwest corner of Eagle
and Ustick is one site within a five lot commercial subdivision. That is overall 3.26 acres
of land. It is in the C-G zoning district and part of an over -- very much larger mixed use
regional designation as you can see in this map on the left. To the north is Ustick Road.
To the north of the site is Ustick Road with C-G zoning as seen in the center map and
commercial development to the east is Eagle Road with commercial zoning and
commercial development to the east. To the south is undeveloped C-G zoning, but does
have an approval for a multi-tenant building and drive through. To the west is also C-G
land, but that is undeveloped and that has the Villa Sport gym fitness facility approval on
that. There is a lot of history on this site dating back to 2019 with different development
agreement modifications to remove it from an existing development agreement. There
was a plat done at the end of December as well, as well as multiple administrative
approvals for the building and separate uses on the site. With the original application that
was before Planning and Zoning Commission there was over 225 pieces of public
testimony submitted for the CUP -- for that CUP hearing. I did not count them this time,
but I'm assuming it's as much if not more. Most are in opposition of this CUP request, as
well as the product overall. As noted there is a lot of history on the site. The subject
property was annexed in 2003 as part of a larger annexation area. There was a DA
associated with this, which was modified in 2019 to remove it from that DA and enter into
a new one just serving this site. In December of 2020 as noted there was a preliminary
plat done by the landowner, which was not the applicant tonight, done by the landowner
to subdivide the property into five commercial lots. At that time future uses were not
known by staff and through the process the landowner is not required to divulge what
contracts they may or may not have with future uses. The Oasis is proposed within a new
multi-tenant building on one of those lots, which would be the southwest lot in this overall
development. Administratively approved building at this location, which is under the
Eagleview Retail Center application name, is approximately 8,300 square feet in size with
two tenant suites, one being for a Jamba Juice, one being for the potential Oasis. The
Oasis is proposed in the larger suite, which is approximately 7,000 square feet in size.
The building and use meet all of the code required dimensional standards for this C-G
zoning district. However, no tenant improvement building permit has been submitted. So,
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there has been no set fire or building occupancy determined for the suite. How the suite
is laid out in the future through this TI will determine the building occupancy from the
aspect of building and fire, which, again, there is a lot of facets to that. How many tables
they have. How many chairs they have. If there is a mezzanine. Ingress-egress, et
cetera. The proposed business is a combination of a nightclub and music venue, which
falls under the drinking establishment and indoor recreation facility uses within the
development code respectively. The indoor rec facility use is a principally permitted use
within the C-G zoning district, unless it incorporates a music venue, which this does, and
is located within a thousand feet of an existing residence, which is the case. Therefore,
a CUP was required for that. A drinking establishment is a conditional use within the C-
G zoning district as well. Therefore, the CUP that the applicant requests are for both
uses. It is anticipated that directly south of the approved -- the approved building there
will be additional landscaping, a larger parking lot-- sorry-- and a drive aisle. This parking
lot and landscaping received preliminary approval with the Villa Sport applications. Main
access to and from this site is via a shared driveway connection to Ustick Road, which I
will go back to this. It would be -- well, be it right here, as you can kind of see with the
curb cut. It would be the main access point into and out of the site. It is limited to a right-
in, right-out access. The landowner is currently constructing the entire shared driveway
for this development, because it is developing before the Villa Sport application and it --
in addition, it will connect all the way down to North Cajun Lane to the south, which
ensures that there is more than one way to get in and out of the site. The applicant has
an existing cross-access agreement with the adjacent commercial property, but this
agreement does not include cross-parking. I know that there was some confusion within
the record and within the public testimony last time. There is no cross-parking agreement
from this overall three acre site to the adjacent Villa Sport sites. There is a cross-parking
agreement within the five internal commercial lots in the Wadsworth Subdivision. In
addition to the shared drive aisle that abuts the property to the west, the Villa Sport site
improvements and recorded cross-access agreement will include an additional Ustick
Road access point further west, which is really North Centrepoint Way. These access
points will be the drive aisle which will be right here. These points are long approved for
this site. Staff finds that there is adequate and safe access to the site at full build out.
Also -- and also with only the most adjacent Ustick access in conjunction with a drive aisle
-- drive aisle connection to Cajun Lane, because it provides an access to both Ustick and
Eagle Roads. However, to help mitigate any residential cut through traffic staff did require
a condition of approval that this applicant work with Villa Sport and those landowners to
construct the northernmost driveway through the Villa Sport site prior to commencing this
use, which would, again, be prior to Villa Sport probably is developed as well and that
was not discussed very deeply at the public hearing previously. So, I wanted to make a
specific note of that. This driveway would provide a direct means of accessing North
Centrepoint Way and existing -- and the existing traffic signal that's located there and it
would help mitigate potential customers using the roads adjacent to the residential
subdivision to the south. ACHD is the leading agency on access points and traffic
mitigation for the entire valley -- well, for the City of Meridian. Because peak traffic time
should not be drastically affected by the proposed use on any access point ACHD could
not require a traffic impact study for the application, for the CUP, even with the assumed
capacity of one thousand, which is, again, the original assumed capacity by the applicant
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Mr. Tsai. This TIS was not required by ACHD and restricting the capacity further to 400
persons would further help mitigate any traffic concerns for this type of use. Further
analysis regarding access should be addressed to ACHD. Staff also agrees that at peak
hours of business, which would be after 8:00 p.m., access to the site should be improved
as overall adjacent traffic levels on Ustick and Eagle should be much less than 5:00 or
6:00 at the peak p.m. hour traffic. This application was heard at two public hearings
before the Planning and Zoning Commission. There was a continuance from a March
hearing to a May hearing in order for the applicant to provide additional information. There
were three items. One was to work with the police and obtain a safety plan or get a sign-
off, so to speak, from the police on a safety plan that was obtained. There was another
requirement to create a circulation plan and provide information on how they would
incentivize ride share programs, which was submitted with the -- the continuance and the
last point was to obtain a shared parking agreement, because the adjacent landowner
had noted in the first hearing that they would work with the applicant. That discussion
occurred and there was no cross-parking agreement made. Because of that that is one
of the reasons why a further public hearing at the May 6th Planning and Zoning
Commission hearing, the Commission further limited the capacity to 400 persons. Just
to be clear on what the conditions of approval are for the currently approved CUP, these
are what are in the findings, what is -- what was stricken, what was added is underlined
and these are what the applicant will have -- would have to abide by currently. I don't
want to go through each of them individually, but if you guys have any questions I will
stand for any of those to clarify any -- or provide anymore information.
Simison: Council, any questions for staff?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thank you. One of the questions, you know, question I had -- and I think you
have touched on this, but if you want to just expand -- is how could limited capacity be
enforced by the City of Meridian?
Dodson: Yes. That is a great question, Council Woman Strader. As discussed at both
hearings, it -- it's the same as any drinking establishment, any daycare, anything that we
limit capacity on below the fire occupancy or building occupancy. We are not going to
have code enforcement or police standing out there. It is, unfortunately, complaint based.
I know there is some discussion on that means that the residents would have to stand out
there and count people and not -- I don't want that at all and I understand that -- that
mentality about how that could be the requirement. But, again, code allows the capacity
to be limited below what is allowed by building and fire code. So, how we implement that
afterwards is not a planning or a code issue, it's going to be, unfortunately, the citizen
participation, code enforcement and our police.
Strader: Mr. Mayor, follow up.
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Simison: Well, Lieutenant Leslie, would you like to answer -- finalize that question for
Council Woman Strader? How is code enforcement or police going to enforce a reduced
capacity establishment?
Leslie: Mr. Mayor, Council Woman Strader, that's -- we deal with that quite frequently on
other establishments as well and, like Joe talked about, it's typically a complaint based
issue. We are not there patrolling it per se and counting individuals coming out of the
establishments, but if we receive a complaint that they are over capacity and, then, we
will go there and do a spot check or work with the Fire Department. There is a fire code
that we utilize, but -- and do it that way.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Yeah. A follow-up question and something that I wanted to understand. So, if
this condition is attached to the CUP, then, does that condition run with an agreement
with the tenant or with the property? In other words, I'm asking you a question if this
business were to be sold, if there were a new tenant, if the occupant were to change to
another nightclub company, then, would that condition still be enforceable?
Dodson: Council Woman Strader, that's a great question as well. It runs with the land.
So, it doesn't matter who or what entity is going to use the site or that land, this site -- this
building will have to adhere to these standards. If a future different nightclub owner were
to come in they could request -- they would have to request a CUP modification, which
would go before Planning and Zoning Commission in order to change any of these
conditions.
Strader: Thank you.
Dodson: You are welcome.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Joe, quick question on a definition,just to make sure we are on the same page.
In the staff report it says the proposed use would have regional pull for patrons. Is regional
Treasure Valley, beyond, or are we talking regional like intermountain, like from Salt Lake?
Dodson: If they pulled from Salt Lake that would be incredible. I don't know if they quite
have the size to do that. But regional I was thinking the Treasure Valley. You know, Boise,
Meridian, Nampa, Caldwell, that kind of thing.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
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Dodson: Yeah.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Along the same lines as Councilman Hoaglun, I think the direction he was
heading, Joe, can you share, especially for the public's benefit here,just some more detail
about the mixed use regional and what types of uses are intended there? There was a
lot of written testimony about this being a residential area and so I kind of want to clarify
for the public those four corners and kind of what the Comprehensive Plan says about
them and whatnot for uses.
Dodson: Yes, ma'am. The mixed use regional is our -- our largest sense of the word
regional -- largest commercial and mixed use designation that we have in our future land
use. It intends to pull people from well beyond the immediate property in a regional format
through -- from the whole city. That's why you see the big box stores here, like Lowe's,
you see Kohl's, you see Hobby Lobby, all those things here, that's why part of my analysis
when discussing the mixed use regional aspect -- a three acre site is not going to be able
to meet every single one of our policies. It can't. It just physically does not have the
space. But we want to see an array of uses, including some residential. You can see
that the residential to -- that is the -- I believe the Jackson Square Subdivision to the
southwest is part of that mixed use regional. It has a mix of uses, some R-8 lots and R-
15. Obviously, R-15 are usually smaller homes or attached homes. They are supposed
to mix and integrate and be connected to commercial development. Obviously, you want
to have as compatible uses as you can come and integrate with each other through
pedestrian connectivity, through green spaces, through shared spaces, through uses that
will make those residents walk, rather than drive. It is my understanding that that is what
the applicant would prefer is to have people walk to this establishment from the nearby
residential and not necessarily drive from Eagle. But there is an array of uses that we
would desire in this mixed use regional. It's not meant to just serve a tiny portion of the
city.
Simison: Council, any additional questions for staff at this time? Okay. Then we will ask
the applicant to come forward. Mr. Black first. And have you already spoken with the
other applicants to determine time allocation will be 15 minutes apiece or --
Black: Yes, we have. We are good. Your Honor, Council Members, Randy Black, Junior.
My address is 10789 West Twain, Las Vegas, Nevada. 89135. I'm third generation land
and development professional in this space. We have had holdings in Nevada, Arizona,
Utah, California, Montana, Idaho, specifically here in Treasure Valley. We have had
holdings in Nampa, Kuna, Eagle, Dry Creek Ranch. I'm pretty sure everybody's familiar
with that and Meridian. We have had actually both of these corners -- the corner parcel
and this parcel we acquired in early 2000, so we are very familiar with these reciprocal
easement access agreements, circulation plans, et cetera. They are specifically designed
just for access, not parking. So, that's precluded. And I will tell you that laundry list for
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any reason other than not my first rodeo, I have done this a long time, very uncomfortable
speaking as someone who is trying to do their own projects in the entrepreneurial spirit,
but I have to in this case and I may have done it three or four times in a 30 year period
when there is inevitable conflict if the approved use -- or if the use is approved between
our property and the use that's on site. I will keep that short to what the reasons are
behind that. We haven't been able to mitigate those, address them, figure out how to
police them, what the teeth are in those if -- if the tenant is in violation of occupancy
standards, some of the parking overreach, parking lot cleanup, vandalism to our adjoining
stores, et cetera. Most of it is centered around traffic. This site's got one access point in
and out. There is no -- no real stacking to speak of. If you have got a lot of people
entering into the site and trying to get in there, they are going to end up queueing out into
Eagle -- or queueing out into Ustick, blocking the traffic from access on the Cajun Lane
location and there is not a staging area for them to get in, drop off, enter the venue and,
then, locate in the parking area. So, that becomes a public safety question from our point.
There is no secondary access to this site. If this main entrance here gets blocked and
you have a fire event, I'm curious how this meets fire code standards. We always have
to have crash gates on something of this site where you have got five different separate
pad uses in that three and a quarter acre site. So, the -- the lack of a requirement for a
traffic study from ACHD I think stems from the fact that we reduced an access point on
these two parcels where there was Centrepoint and, then, two other drive aisles right
here, there was one independent access point on the pad that was -- that's just a little bit
further to the east than the current driveway. So, about where that O is in the overall site
plan. This site had its own separate access point. There was another access point that
went into -- we will call it the Villa Sport parcel that was further to the west. So, when we
reduced the second access point and we took it from three access points on Ustick down
to two, that accomplished some of ACHD's goals, which is restricted access off the Eagle
and keeping those ingress-egress points where that -- everybody knows how bad that
intersection is currently with the traffic that's there. Their overall objective was to reduce
it down. They agreed to this -- this pad when -- at the point we owned it was never
intended on the corner to have five separate independent uses on it. So, I don't know
why we couldn't just require a traffic study to figure out what we are actually doing, instead
of having Mr. Tsai put together a plan that he admittedly is not a traffic engineer, nor am
1, to look at the queuing, the staging, how this would work in a -- in an emergency event
given that there is a quick care in the corner and, then, the fact that there is three other
drive-through uses that are on this three and a quarter acre site independent of The Oasis.
So, public safety, queuing, stacking, that flood of traffic between those hours being a big
concern. Second concern being just overall parking spaces that are allocated. There
was some clarification -- we were approached for a parking agreement. We need all our
parking. We don't have extra parking to spare. Our hours of operation are basically the
same time for Villa Sport as it is for The Oasis. So, this isn't what's been touted as a off-
peak hours type of activity. You have got a Wienerschnitzel, a Dutch Brothers, a Quick
Care and a Jamba Juice and, then, only one other use that we don't know on this pad.
None of those are 8:00 to 5:00. Those are all pretty competing or at least overlapping
time frames of operations. So, from the component where Mr. Tsai is indicating that the
developer has promised or allocated some number, which I still would like to get some
clarity on how many parking spaces that are going to be provided, that he would have the
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right to occupy. Somewhere between 110 and 130 spaces I have heard. Still don't know
the math. Can't figure out how they got there. But these spaces are to be utilized by all
five pad users there. Excuse me. Not to be monopolized by The Oasis and as I have
stated earlier, they are competing time frames. So, even if he could be legally granted,
according to the reciprocal easement and access and parking agreement within that three
and a quarter acre site, I think we would need to at least see a sign off from the other four
pad users there that are also entitled to use those same parking spaces. So, to arrive at
a minimum number of required parking spaces and, then, he monopolizes the only
available parking space in here, we at least need to look at the overall plan now, knowing
now that there is a Wienerschnitzel and the Dutch Brothers on there and actually look at
real parking calculations on this. The other concern is with the rideshare he is actually
showing the Jamba Juice drive-thru as a staging area for the Lyft and the Ubers. I don't
know how that works. Again, Jamba Juice doesn't close at 4:00. We are going to have
these same competing uses in the time frames. There is an emergency exit lane here,
which could work, but it doesn't queue correctly down here from a traffic perspective on
the entry point where you make this 90 to get into that drive area. There is also a pretty
big assumption on the usage of five patrons per car for rideshare to come to this event to
get to the math. As far as I can tell. And, again, I'm -- I could be off. We will see what he
says, but this is the way I'm interpreting it when we read it. That's -- that's an unrealistic
number. Rideshares aren't five people per car. They are one to four at best typically and,
then, if we are going to disperse all of these patrons out of there at the closing time on
weekends, everybody's calling for Lyft or an Uber at 2:00 o'clock in the morning on Friday
and Saturday night. We don't have any analysis from any of the rideshare guys that would
tell us there is even that many available rides and drivers, which we know there is a
shortage of now, to accommodate that kind of exodus that has to take place to alleviate
all the traffic concerns. There has been no plan submitted that we could justify is actually
functional. This is an interpretation without any qualified professionals delineating
ingress, egress, what happens if you get a choke point on this single point of access,
traffic lanes -- again, the big question being you can't just assume he gets to use all 120
parking spaces that were developed as common area and the parking calcs for all five
uses there. We don't have an agreement that would put some teeth into the available
parking for the rest of the tenants and I still contend -- I don't know if the developer can
allocate all of the available parking spaces to the single user of the five in there. This
creates a lot of issues for site circulation not having a traffic study. It looks to me where
we are talking about the traffic flowing to the south using the roundabout is inherently late
at night going to end up wandering around in the neighborhoods to the back of there,
working their way back to Centrepoint, trying to get out through the Jimmy John's. I
haven't -- we haven't seen a security plan or a parking -- a validated parking plan that
would circulate this and be staffed at the expense of the tenant here, so that the rest of
us in the adjoining properties aren't having to pay for the towing, the cleanup, the security
and the compliance issues with spot checking or -- or doing our own kind of policing of
his amount of users that are in the property at anytime. Those were -- those were my
major concerns, other than one question was on the dimensional standards, if he's -- he's
only 300 feet away from this residential area where a thousand is the minimum
requirement, there was some technical sound engineering that was in his presentation
that had to do with what sound does with three-quarter inch plywood, yet we don't have
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any assurances or a tenant improvement plan, because it hasn't been submitted to the
building department yet to look at the interior mitigation on the sound, so that it's not
bleeding out into the parking lot, which is the hardscape surface and despite the claims
of the Villa Sport building, which is going forward, should probably mentioned that, it
doesn't -- it's not a sound attenuation building. There is still a direct shot from The Oasis
to the residential component that is to the south and the east of that and those are the
major concerns I have and now I will turn it over to Jon and let him address the balance.
Thank you.
Simison: If you could state your name and address for the record.
Hoeger: Honorable Mayor and esteemed Members of the Council, my name is Jonathan
Hoeger. I live at 3664 North Summer Park Place, Meridian, Idaho. I would like to open
by thanking the community for having the courage to speak out in opposition to this
application. There are literally, as you have heard, hundreds of citizens that have gotten
directly involved here that have written the city in opposition. They have cited code,
incompatibility with the Comprehensive Plan, with the stated vision of the City of Meridian.
Fifty-two people from the community donated to pay the fee to help us get through the
application and the signage. Thousands of residents of the City of Meridian are opposed
to this project and I appreciate Mr. Dodson for reviewing why the CUP is required and it's
because of the business use. It's because it's a nightclub. If this were a store, if it were
a dentist or restaurant, it would be principally permitted and we wouldn't be here having
a CUP hearing. There would be no hearing tonight. But the code recognizes a drinking
establishment is something that is different and it requires more scrutiny and something
the public should be able to speak on. So, I'm going to show you why that's the case.
The purpose of this first section is for me to be able to show that the application has
presented a lot of false and changing information. Some of the -- some of it's very
material, some things are smaller, but it does two things, it shows us that we have to fact
check the claims and be sure that we are not just being told what somebody thinks we
want to hear and makes us question what else is going to change in the future. The Villa
Sport submitted letter earlier today calling out some of these same things, so I'm not the
only one that's made the observation. So, from the beginning there has been a lack of
transparency with his application. The initial public meeting that The Oasis scheduled
was supposed to be held at 3.00 p.m. at Kleiner Park in the frigid January temperatures.
The time when most moms are picking up kids from school or dads and when other people
are working. It wasn't until residents complained about the inappropriate time and location
-- as you know those are supposed to be held between 6:00 and 8:00 p.m. -- that that
was changed. Another example of lack of transparency is the -- withholding the capacity
information, which has come out anyway. As we have heard, the initial capacity was
planned for a thousand people, it was, then, dropped to 700 and, then, to 400. So, I want
to spend a little time on this, because I think it's important to understand the parking
implications here. We have been recommended and we are looking at parking for 400
people. But I will refer you to the notes from the neighborhood meeting from January 14
and when asked how many people can you accommodate in your venue the applicant
responded -- and I'm going to quote from the record here, just in case anybody says that
this has been taken out of context and this is the full response. We explained that the
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current stage of architectural planning for the interior improvements -- we are unable to
provide a peak capacity or maximum occupancy count. But the venue can be expected
to have occupancy similar to that of other ten thousand square foot venues and
immediately afterwards in the same meeting the very next question was he was asked
how many parking spaces will you have available for your functions and in answering this
question it becomes clear that the exact occupancy was actually known. Listen to the
response again reading from the public record here. We have 122 -- sorry. We have a
total of 122 available parking spaces for our facilities use, approximately 40 to 60 percent
of patrons will be utilizing a rideshare service to avoid parking issues, with the assumption
of 40 percent rideshare use, if carpools of approximately five persons were used in
absolute peak capacity event, we would be able to reach full occupancy before all of the
available parking spaces are exhausted. So, how is it possible to not know the full
occupancy, but somehow be able to calculate and determine that there is sufficient
parking to not exceed said full occupancy? Especially when you consider that all the
other variables are filled in for us and I think we can do the math; right? Same
assumptions, 120 spaces, five people per car, is 610 people, but that's only the 60 percent
that drove. You have to add in the 40 percent rideshare, which puts you at 1016 people.
By the way, if you use the upper range of 60 percent rideshare you would be doing 1,500
people. So, that was the hard one. No more algebra tonight. I promise. The second
method that confirms the number is much much easier. When he said The Oasis would
have -- and I quote -- an occupancy similar to that of others 10,000 square foot venues,
he is referring to the Knitting Factory, which has been cited by The Oasis more than once
throughout this process, which also has an occupancy of 999. Two methods prove that
this is the intended occupancy. Honorable Mayor, esteemed Members of the Council,
this is the intent for The Oasis. It's a thousand plus people. It's not the 400 people that
Planning and Zoning was misled to believe. So, the question is why was the intended
max -- maximum occupancy not disclosed? I submit that it's because there is neither
intent, nor is there a financial motivation to start turning people away at 401 . As we have
heard already, there is no way to enforce the 400 cap. What I believe is going to happen
is that when the -- when the CUP is approved the 400 person limit is going to go out the
window and it's going to be packed to the physical capacity of the building, which is most
likely a thousand people. So, the next point is critical. We cannot fail to learn from the
past. Meridian already has other under parked CUPs that cause perpetual problems.
Some examples are the Gramercy development, the Homestead Bar and Grill, the Curb
Bar and Grill off of Overland and Meridian and these are businesses that don't have
frequent maximum capacity events. They don't require CUP generally, just because of
the nature of the business. So, along this line of reasoning,just calling out what Mr. Black
called out already, why are we even talking about 122 spaces or 125 spaces or whatever
it is. That assumes that none of the other businesses, their customers or their employees,
are going to be able to use any of the parking. Even at 400 this is under parked. It's
going to be more than 400 when those events happen. This leads us to the next
observation. The claim that there won't be parking conflicts. Mr. Black talked about this
already. I will just add the specific hours of these. So, AFC Urgent Care, other locations
in the valley are open until 8.00 p.m. Wienerschnitzel is open until 10.00 p.m. at other
locations. Most Jamba Juice locations are open until 10:00 p.m. There is exceptions.
The ones that are inside of malls close earlier, but the ones like this one are open until
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10:00. Most of the Dutch Brothers locations in the valley are up until 11 :00, with some for
24 hours. So, rest assured parking conflicts will abound if this use is approved. The
business also has been a bit of a moving target. It's gone from being a world class EDM
nightclub to, as claimed in the last hearing, having 80 percent of the revenue come from
non-nightclub activities, like being an event center with photoshoots, free weddings and
trade shows. None of these things were marketed initially before the public came out and
started to complain about the use of the nightclub. But the story is shifting. Another
example is the venue size, which is still a bit of a moving target and we will talk about that
in a minute. This is a picture that's taken from the staff -- excuse me -- the staff report.
As we know the footprint is about 7,000 square feet. My question is why are we adding
a mezzanine that's another 2,329 square feet and, then, the offices are the yellow. The
only change we have made to this image is adding the yellow, so you can see what's the
second story that's being added on top. What's the purpose, if we have a reduced
capacity to go down to 400 people, of adding another 25 percent to the square footage?
What's the intent? What is that showing you? Dress code is another example of some
of the inconsistencies that we have seen. Initially The Oasis website said that -- sorry.
It's -- it required men to wear a button up shirt and slacks and ask women to wear a sun
dress or show us your best beach attire. These are screenshots from the website showing
the before and after, what the initial marketing was and what has changed since the
community came out and said we are not comfortable with this use, we don't support it.
You can see now the dress code policy is just a little bit confusing and contradictory. It's
a sure sign that it's been hastily corrected to be vague, with a strong hint that it would be
changed back. It now says a minimum of button up shirt and slacks are suggested.
Upscale, but still casual. Or generally, without reference to gender, show us your best
beach attire. So, which is it? I don't know a lot of people that dress like I'm dressed to
go to the beach. The other key detail to note is at the bottom where the website now says
and it did not say before -- these requirements are subject to change. The strategy is
clear. Say what needs to be said to get approved, go back to the original plan. As an
isolated incident this would just be a side note. Okay? I realize that you are not going to
vote on dress code and that's not something you can vote on, but as the greater body of
evidence as you look at the inconsistency and the changes of going back and forth, it
should at least call into question some of the things that you are hearing. So, let's talk
about comparing apples to oranges and cows. There have been a lot of justification that
has been irrelevant comparisons and some of the testimony we have heard about how
The Oasis is just like Big Al's, the Villa Sport, or TopGolf. Big Al's is a bowling alley. Villa
Sport is a family swim and athletic club. TopGolf is a sporting event center with a kid
zone. Do all of these sound like EDM nightclubs to you? The inferred logic is, of course,
because if they serve alcohol and The Oasis serves alcohol, that they must be the same.
Is a baseball stadium an EDM nightclub? This is like saying that everything that has legs
must be a cow. It's a logical fallacy. Chairs, tables, humans all have legs. The Villa Sport,
Big Al's and TopGolf are not nightclubs. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. And The
Oasis is not a center for the arts. If the applicant wanted to put in something like the
Idaho Shakespeare Festival and Art Museum, I would be happy to pay the application
fees, but the code recognizes the difference. That's why the code requires a CUP, where
these other businesses are principally permitted. Honorable Mr. Mayor and Members of
the Council, this is the question I'm building to you. Can we trust the business to
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voluntarily comply with a 400 person capacity limit, when there has been such a lack of
transparency and a willingness to provide misleading information and operate on the
fringes or completely outside of the rules just to obtain approval. That decision is yours.
There is no need to try to fit a square peg into a round hole. I invite you to go back and
review the initial Oasis application. It's 13 pages long. Eleven of the 13 pages are spent
assuring us that all of the negative consequences that everybody expects to come from
a nightclub won't actually be that bad. Why would we even want to approve something
with 11 pages of potential negative consequences? Is this normal for new business
applications? Or is this alone a sign that we should be concerned? This is what the CUP
process is for. It's to ask the questions. To provide a forum for the community to come
out and ask why is this not principally permitted. So, The Oasis, obviously, knows these
things are likely to happen, that's why they spent so much time addressing them. Here
is a list from The Oasis' own application and safety plan. Noise, parking, violence,
overconsumption of alcohol, sex offenses, underage drinking, illnesses and injuries,
disorderly conduct, attempted use of false IDs, drug sales and drug use, fights, poor
vehicular and pedestrian traffic, capacity issues and DUls. This is the applicant's list, not
mine. He is giving us the answer. He is giving us all the reasons why nightclubs are not
principally permitted in our city code and he is -- that's why he is seeking a variance. It's
also the very same list of reasons why you should deny the application. Is it any wonder
that The Village would not lease to The Oasis when he applied there? Could it be perhaps
that they had far too much invested in their own business and the other tenants that do
business there? The Village at Meridian gets it. They don't want their development to go
downhill. They don't want to have substantial financial harm come to their investment
and the businesses of their tenants. Separately, do most businesses have multiple people
filing appeals to the recommended CUP approval? Do most businesses draw this kind
of opposition from the community? Do we really want to have an exception granted for
-- to introduce all of those things that we listed in the safety plan into our community? Do
we not believe that Meridian is good enough to attract a better businesses than this? Are
there not other businesses that don't inherently come with so much negative baggage?
My wife and I run a local business. It's a certified B Corp. We have over two million
dollars of annual payroll. I know we can create better jobs. I know we can use business
generally as a force for good. There have been a number of other concerns relating to
the process. I'm going to skip over some of this, because it's been talked about already.
You know, the -- the whole purpose of the continuance on the Planning and Zoning
hearing was to be able to get that cross-parking agreement, which he failed to obtain.
The background is everybody agrees this is underparked. It needed another 170 stalls.
But instead of coming with that, they just said let's reduce the capacity, but let's do it in
such a way that it's unenforceable. We have heard this already. There is literally no
controls and the thing that is a little bit disconcerting as a citizen is that the Commission
said, okay, we know there is no controls. The city services weighed in and said we know
there is no controls, but we think that we are going to advocate for just vigilante
enforcement. That's the path that we are going to choose for the City of Meridian. So,
this is kind of like giving a smartphone to a teenager and telling them they can only use it
for an hour a day and, then, never turning on parental controls, never checking the screen
time use and asking the teen's friends to be the ones that ensure they only use it for an
hour a day. To take the analogy further, it's like finding out that they have been using it
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for four hours a day and, then, just giving them back the phone. The burden of
enforcement needs to be on the business that is causing the issues. It should not be on
the citizens, the taxpayers, and the city services. Again, we cannot fail to learn from the
past, Gramercy, The Curb, Homestead Bar and Grill, these are all things that are going
to seem like a sunny day compared to the complaints that will happen if this is approved
and those businesses do not have the level of intensity the nightclub has. Mr. Black talked
about the congestion that will happen at those peak hours when you have people being
brought to an event and leaving from an event. Do we really -- excuse me -- the
bottlenecks that you are going to see are much more intense when the people are arriving
at those specific times. In the interest of time I'm going to skip a little bit here. What we
are seeing is this is the inevitable outcome. This is what was advocated by the Planning
and Zoning Commission. No, it doesn't sound appealing to me either. But this is the
course of action that is going to happen. So, I ask is there any chance that there will not
be scores, dozens, hundreds of complaints from the public if this is approved? We have
a business that hasn't even opened yet and has already managed to lose the community's
trust and develop a reputation for changing the story and skirting the rules. We have a
business whose primary product is to intoxicate its patrons. A site that is wholly
inadequate to host the business and an engaged public that is participating in the hearing
process and vocally opposing the application. If we cannot agree on anything else
tonight, let us at least agree that this portends a lot of future problems and complaints.
So, I ask you what is the cost of the decision? And I will close with a few questions. With
the evidence provided does it sound like we are really taking steps towards building the
west's premier community in which to live, work, and raise a family? Does it sound
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan 3.05.01 C, to preserve property rights and values
by enforcing regulations that will prevent and mitigate against incompatible and
detrimental neighboring uses. Remember, The Village rejecting it. Or 5.01.01, to
encourage the safety, health, and well being of the community. Do you remember the
applicant's list of problems associated with nightclubs? Violence, overconsumption of
alcohol, sex offenses, disorderly conduct, drug sales and use, fights -- do those sound
like they are conducive to safety, health, and well being of the community? 5.01.01 F. To
minimize noise, lighting, and odor disturbances from --from commercial developments to
residential dwellings, in this case 350 feet away. Or 6.01.01 G. To develop criteria for
plan review in determining whether a developmental proposal is safe, accessible, and
comfortable for pedestrians and cyclists. This is one of the busiest intersections in the
state and it already has traffic issues. We have custom no right on red lights, because
people turn when the U-turn is supposed to be happening. Will adding inebriated drivers
with far too little parking and right-in, right-out only access have a more safe, accessible,
and comfortable environment for pedestrians and cyclists? This should not be a
complicated or difficult decision. It is neither just nor fair to put the burden of policing this
bad fit onto the public. It isn't our right, it's -- excuse me. It isn't right to burden the other
tenants. It isn't right to drain the city resources and add additional expense for all the
future complaints that will surely come if this is approved. Every phone call that's picked
up, every response to the complaint, every time the fire department, the police have to go
out, there is literally no chance that this does not become an additional expense to the
taxpayers and the residents of the City of Meridian. There are scores of other businesses
that can use this site, provide just as much value and tax bases, without the 11 pages of
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it really won't be that bad descriptions, that the applicant is clearly admitting and planning
for it to occur. Let us not be governed by the letter of the law only. We are not exempt
from common sense. Honorable Mayor, esteemed Members of the Council, yours is the
great responsibility to do what is right for the city and to represent the citizens in rendering
land use decisions per the code and the comp plan that we have referenced. Meridian is
too great a city for us to be deceived. There are plenty of technical reasons why the
conditional use permit should not have been granted in the first place and while your
decision may rest on any of those individual decisions, it should also be driven by wisdom
and we implore you to deny the CUP. We thank you for being great and conscientious
stewards of this city.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: We will go with that's the one. Let's--that's--we try not to do that after everyone
speaks this evening to keep the decorum in the room for everyone to feel welcome to say
what they want to say.
Bernt: Perfect. Thank you.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I did have a question for Mr. Hoeger -- Hoeger.
Simison: So, yeah, we will go -- if both applicants want to come up to the mic for any
questions. That would be great. Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: And how do you pronounce your last name, sir?
Hoeger: Hoeger. Yes, sir.
Hoaglun: Okay. Sorry about that.
Hoeger: I will respond to Hoeger, too. It's okay.
Hoaglun: Okay. I respond to lots as well. So, understand. Just --just a question. You
talked about The Village and rejecting them, whatnot. I wasn't aware of anything, but was
that because of what they were or was it because they have noncompete clauses with
other entities within that facility?
Hoeger: I wouldn't be able to speak to noncompete clauses. That actually came from a
direct response from the public record. The applicant said that he had looked for many
other sites, so he may be able to answer this question better than me. He said he looked
at lots of other sites and they would not allow his use in The Village, but I'm not aware of
any other nightclubs in The Village.
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Hoaglun: Okay. Good. Thank you.
Hoeger: To my knowledge.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Mr. Hoeger, you skipped a slide that -- real quick -- I think you were trying to be
quick, but it was --
Hoeger: Yeah.
Borton: -- before the vigilante slide.
Hoeger: This one?
Borton: Yes. You were -- you were making a quick point on -- I think it was your perceived
reality that the capital costs of a full capacity structure couldn't survive with a self-imposed
cap on its revenue stream.
Hoeger: Yeah. And I ran out of time, but, essentially, my question is -- I mean I'm a
business owner, I know how margins work, and if we have taken this thing from the
original intended capacity of 10,000 square feet and we have reduced it by 60 percent
and we have the same capital expenditures, overhead costs, employment, facility lease,
all of that is still the same cost, how is it going to remain a going concern? And, then,
when the business starts to go downhill how is he going to pay for all the extra security
and policing and clean up? It just doesn't seem like it's a very practical solution.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Appreciate you pointing it out, because the applicant -- or the developer can
perhaps respond to that as well. And, then, I had a question, Mr. Mayor, if I could real
quick for Mr. Black.
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Individuals do park in the Villa Sport's parking lot and walk over to the concert.
Are you forced to tow them? Is there a plan for that unfortunate event?
Black: We will have to -- we are already preparing and we are doing this in any instance,
because it's a family oriented facility --
Borton- Right.
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Black: -- for extra security on light poles, cameras, et cetera. Yeah. We will -- we will
have to have some sort of a towing business there, which would probably be lucrative.
Borton: All right. Thank you.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Thank you. There was a couple references to additional costs potentially to
the city. I was hoping that you could give more details on that. Are you -- are you
expecting that the city would need to hire additional police officers that -- I mean I just
want to get some more specifics on what -- what it is that you are expecting additional
costs to be. I -- it's not my knowledge that the city ever goes and cleans up any kind of
private property or anything along those lines. So, if you could share your thoughts on
that.
Black: Yeah. I mean, again, as a business owner everything that any of my team does
costs something; right? I mean call it physical cost, if there are enough complaints where
you have to hire a new code enforcement officer. Call it opportunity cost, if there are
things that they should be working on that they can't work on because they are being
distracted by a lot of complaints. I mean there is a lot of different ways to measure cost
to the community. But it's not free. I mean we pay people to answer the phones. We
pay people to drive the cars. We pay people for the insurance. And all of those things
cost money.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Question for Mr. Black. I wanted to make sure I understand the layout. You
had mentioned Jamba Juice location and something about the drive-through. I don't know
if we have the slide that has that handy and what -- what it looked like was the Jamba
Juice was on the east side of the facility and I just -- and you had mentioned the drive-
through aisle. So, is it where -- on the west side they would enter that way, come around
the building and, then, exit to the north or vice-versa or how was that going to work?
Black: And this is back to the point of how do you have something that's so woefully
under parked with such limited access, with such high volume visitors and competing --
like Villa Sport and them are going to be in exact same -- exact same timing of people
getting off that are going to the gym, people getting off work going to -- to the nightclub.
It looks like -- and we will let Mr. Tsai speak to this, but it looks like it comes around -- see
this number one here? Does look like it circulates back around the building, comes back
into the parking lot and they would be coming out. So, this is very basic parking analysis
on stacking structure, circulation, et cetera, that has to comply with fire code, turn abouts,
lack of obstruction if there is an issue at this choke point of the ingress and egress.
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Hoaglun: Thank you. And I do intend to ask the applicant how -- how that layout is to
work.
Black: And that -- can I add one thing to -- to the other potential cost? You can't put a
value on the cost of what could occur here with this much density at these times at that
intersection. There is -- there is going to be some issues with physical harm to people in
that area with that traffic.
Simison: Council, any additional questions?
Dodson: Mr. Mayor?
Black: Thank you.
Simison: Yes, Joe.
Dodson: I will try to answer Councilman Hoaglun's answer if I may. The drive-though is
meant for Jamba Juice only, not meant as an exit, though I presume people would drive
around the building. I don't know why they would go west and go deeper into the site, but
I guess they could. The parking spaces on the west side here are the ones that the
applicant has said that they will designate as the rideshare parking spaces. This is a 25
foot drive aisle, which per code is a two way drive aisle, so it's assumed that they-- people
would back out here and exit in the west side of the site, rather than go around the
building. The escape lane, again, is for the drive-through use for the Jamba Juice.
Speaking of the other uses, I'm glad that you asked the question, Councilman Hoaglun,
because it was assumed that the Dutch Bros and Wienerschnitzel are going to go there
and that's not true. There already is a drive-through on the site, so they will be required
-- all of the future uses of the drive-through will be required to obtain a conditional use
permit before going on the site. So, they are not approved, they are not coming as of this
moment. I have pre-app'd with one of them, told them good luck because of this. Told
them that their site regulation might be very difficult and they understand the issue. They
will be probably watching tonight as well. Same with the Wienerschnitzel. I think they
just applied for a pre-application meeting today. So, I will be discussing that with them as
well. But those uses are not approved and they -- in my opinion they can't be assumed
as being part of the record now, because they are not there. They may not be there.
Commission may say because The Oasis is here, there will be no future drive-throughs
approved. That's a potential there.
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor. A follow up at Joe. So, Jamba Juice has -- has been approved. It's
-- because it's -- the impact is like that, it already fits, but their drive-through is coming
from where the parking area is and coming -- heading east and, then, coming out--exiting
north; is that correct?
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Dodson: That is correct. And I have seen the lease agreement for Jamba Juice. They
will be closing at 7:00 at this location.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Simison: Thank you, Joe.
Dodson: You are welcome. Do you want to clarify that for the record?
Simison: With that we will move into the applicant. Mr. Tsai, if you would like to come
forward and be recognized for 30 minutes. If you can start out with your name and
address for the record.
Tsai: My name is Brian Tsai and I am at 3085 Ustick Road, Meridian, Idaho. 83646.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor. Mr. Tsai, I apologize. I just received an e-mail that you sent slides,
but they were not attached.
Tsai: I just sent that just in case.
Johnson: Yeah. I got something that said attached are images, but I didn't get any
images, so -- Joe is going to pull up for May 6th, see if he can find them.
Tsai: Do the exact same way just in case they need to be referred to.
Simison: Anytime you are ready.
Tsai: Hello, Mr. Mayor, distinguished Members of the City Council. This project is a
culmination of over a decade's worth of ideas and with that includes every penny I have
made in the last ten years and then some. Half of that time I spent as a state trooper
near the U.S.-Mexico border. I lost count of how many bodies I have moved or how many
times I have heard bullets zipping past my head, knowing full well it is meant to end my
life. It's a sound you will never forget. After seeing the chopped up bodies left by drug
cartels every week, suddenly providing a fun and safe place for people just to laugh,
dance, and socialize didn't seem like such an evil thing. So, I left that life behind in pursuit
of a lifelong passion for music, to turn a bunch of ideas sketched across endless napkins
into something tangible and real. A multi-purpose venue that can be enjoyed by all ages,
family uses, walks of life and the community as a whole. Just to reach this point of
development I have already taken the second position lien on my house, received high
interest net leases on all the equipment, additionally signed as collateral just to secure
the lease for this building and they say nothing great comes without great sacrifice. Being
born and raised in Boise 1, myself, am an Idaho native, just like Mr. Mayor, Councilman
-- Council Woman Strader, Councilman Bernt. So, I would like to say that I grew up in
this valley and I experienced everything it had to offer from music, arts, entertainment and
nightlife. Mr. Mayor and Councilman Borton, in your position at the Meridian Chamber of
Commerce I'm sure you understand first how -- firsthand how much benefit art or music
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events alone can bring to both the city and the surrounding communities. Now, why did I
think this belonged in Meridian? I could have paid half as much rent and put it in another
city. It's because I truly believe that Meridian was the most premier and upscale area that
could operate a venue that is intended to be just as nice. In much of the city's recent
testimonies including Mr. Mayor's recent state of the city the word premier is thrown
around a lot and you said that the city was strong -- perhaps too strong. Councilman --
is Hoaglun? Hoaglun? Sorry. I heard them discussing earlier. You said in a 2019
interview that Meridian is a full service community. You want the city to be the premier
city in all of Idaho and I'm inclined to agree. That's part of the reason I picked Meridian
for this project. I will tell you this much, Nampa has music venues, Caldwell has music
venues, Kuna has dance and event spaces. Boise has many music venues. And now
even Emmett has music venues. Meridian has nothing. And looking around I can say
with certainty that Meridian needs a music venue a lot more than it needs another gym
and I have never seen a premier city with not one regular operating music venue,
especially of a city over a hundred thousand people. When I met with an advisor from
the Small Business Administration, it turns out that he was well connected in the music
industry and had e-mails from the then City Council of Meridian all the way back to 2010,
asking if he knew anyone who was interested in building a venue in Meridian. These led
all the way up to the recent years. For example, when former Meridian Arts Commission
Member Hilary Blackstone, which was an advisory board of the City Council, and now
who works for the Department of Education, wrote a letter to the coordinators of the
Treefort Music Festival and asked them what it would take for a company to build a venue
in Meridian. Because it had the potential to bring millions of dollars of revenue on top of
coverage for the arts and entertainment of all forms. Now, just as before, I read every
single letter that was submitted to the city twice and once, again, it was apparent that
most of them were either copied and pasted messages, some submitted multiple times in
a deceptive practice to artificially inflate the number of opposition letters and, once again,
when I cross-referenced those letters with their addresses, which includes the sign-in
sheet today, not a single letter of opposition lived even reasonably close to this site. Now,
I'm here to assure the community that our project will have no detriment to the community
in which it belongs. There are concerns like noise, crime increase, drunk drivers and, of
course, traffic. We conducted a sound study using proven scientific principles to show
that the sound audible outside of the facility would at all times be lower than the ambient
sound of the highway traffic on Eagle Road.
Perreault: Excuse me, Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I'm sorry, I need to address this. If all of you want somebody to yell when you
are speaking, then do it. Then continue to do this. Sir, would you, please, repeat your
last few sentences?
Tsai: I'm sorry. Regarding the folder?
Perreault: Yes. Thank you.
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Tsai: Once again after cross-referencing not a single letter of opposition that was received
by the city, nor that signed in at the hearing today, lived within even a reasonably close
distance to the site. I'm here to assure the community that our project will have no
detriment to the community in which it belongs. That leads into the sound study
information. Now, what the appellants might not know is that before I was a police officer
I was a research scientist and what they have demonstrated is textbook clear of why there
is a clear distinction between researchers who are trained, educated, and experienced in
research and the difference is the modern age where anybody can type what they want
into Google and read out some headlines. It's easy to take those headlines and straw
sample what they want to present and is only demonstrated in a phenomenon called
confirmation bias where you search only for what -- the information that you have formed
an opinion about and the result is unreliable, because it doesn't serve a purpose of
providing sound, unbiased information and by doing this the biased results have no basis
in objective reality. Now, regarding crime for the sake of comparison, in a five year period
from 2015 to 2019, the most recent FBI crime statistics under UCR or the Uniform Crime
Reporting, shows that there was 2,217 incidents of aggravated assault that occurred in
Boise. These are incidents which result in significant bodily harm and often involve a
fourth multiplier, such as an implement like a knife or a gun. Of those 2,217 incidents,
only one occurred as a direct result of a bar or a club of any kind in downtown Boise
where dozens of such facilities exist. This means that when compared to the incident
rate per capita you are six times more likely to be stabbed or shot going about your daily
life in Boise versus attending an alcohol serving establishment. Crime occurs where it's
naturally drawn. It's the reason that Beverly Hills has a lower violent crime rate than
midtown Los Angeles. If one incident occurs every 2,217 that's an anomaly and not a
trend. By that same logic we can look at the several armed robberies that occurred in the
past month here at gas stations and banks here in the Treasure Valley. Does that mean
we remove all the banks and gas stations because they cause violent crime at their
premises? If it's all about statistics, here are some extremely unfortunate and terrible
violent crimes, but that are statistically accurate. More sexual assaults and aggravated
assaults have occurred on the Boise State campus and in our city parks than have
occurred at all the licensed alcohol establishments in Boise combined. More stabbings
have occurred at the Wahooz Family Fun Center than have occurred at all the Meridian
bars combined. Now, of course, is there an acceptable number of violent incidents or
sexual assaults? Of course that number is zero. Are we to believe that given this
information that my business is suddenly to become a hub for violent crime, which has
never been demonstrated by the hundreds of alcohol establishments in the entire
Treasure Valley. Are we to somehow believed that I'm responsible -- as a responsible
business owner who has staked his entire life savings and reputation on a project, that
would allow it to run rampant and unmanaged? The idea that a nightclub by its very
nature can bring along its proportional increase in violence is inaccurate and a falsely
conceived notion. It's just like saying putting in a race track will encourage people to
speed in a nearby area. By its own term, the nightclub is no more than a social club, just
like the already approved Villa Sport, a social club that's open at night is a nightclub. And
in your hands what I have passed out is a published meta analysis study, which is the
most reliable and unbiased, because it combines the analytical data from dozens of
different studies. Now, if we remove the ability to have on premise alcohol, we remove
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the ability to provide a safe environment where we can monitor and regulate the amount
of alcohol consumption and the result is people consuming alcohol at home or in the
parking lot and, then, subsequently driving or entering our facility. You can see in that
synopsis that's highlighted that nightclubs and alcohol serving restaurants are not
associated with either more disorder or more violence and, to the contrary, the density of
nightclubs is associated with less disorder for this exact reason. This is confirmed by my
personal law enforcement career where I arrested over 200 DUI drivers. Of those where
we conduct interviews, approximately two or three of those originated from bars or clubs
of any kind. The other 198 or so, for the sake of estimation, came from private residences.
This is because those who have visited establishments to consume alcohol have already
made arrangements to get home safely, either through a designated driver or ride sharing
service. This is, however, not the case when they are forced to leave a private residence.
And, lastly, the traffic concerns, most of which were resolved by reducing our planned
capacity. The city planning staff, as well as a fire marshal and the Meridian police
department, agreed in consultation that this would alleviate, if not completely resolve, any
issues with parking or traffic. At this intersection with two major arterials, even if all one
hundred vehicles left at the exact same time, based on the volume of that intersection,
could be cleared out in a single cycle of the traffic control signals. Now, we are certainly
not the first. There are several bars along this main drag of Eagle Road that are as close
-- that close the exact same times as our project, if not later. A drive down Eagle Road
shows commercial use as far as the eye can see. There are approximately a dozen
licensed liquor establishments within a mile of our location, including at least five to ten
more that were added in the City of Meridian in 2020, with no marked increase of DUls
by percentage and total there are already 61 other liquor licenses operating in Meridian
under CUPs. We just want to be number 62. Now, prior to this year the radius of potential
impact, which is the -- of course, the entire purpose of this hearing process, was 300 feet.
While there aren't any houses of any kind within 300 feet of the site, it's only when you go
to 500 feet that a number of residential houses are within the radius and to my knowledge
not one letter of opposition lives within this radius. However, there were two residents
that were actually in support of our project. Outside of that radius it's not reasonable to
speculate that you may be somehow indirectly affected by a project thousands of feet or
even miles away from your residence. It negates the entire purpose of the hearing
process and even the permit itself to address any potential impacts of those in the
immediate vicinity. Now, only this week I learned of the term NIMBY stands for Not In My
Backyard. Now, Councilman Bernt, Council Woman Perreault, I'm sure you are aware of
this situation in your experience previously at the Planning and Zoning Department. We
don't have a problem with it. We just don't want to here. The issue is unlike most city
council decisions where the discussion is about annexation or rezoning, this site has been
zoned C-G long before any of the houses were -- nearby were built. As Commissioner
Lorcher once said in a hearing: There is no legal precedent as a homeowner to dictate
what happens to a piece of dirt five to ten years down the road. We are not asking for
anything to be rezoned. We are using the land exactly for what it was intended to be used
for, which is the broadest and largest scale commercial use. Now, after the last hearing
an interesting thing happened. I got e-mails from many of the people who had written
opposition letters and they told me that they weren't actually against our project, that they
only wrote the letter because their friend or their church group members asked them to.
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They added that they trust the Planning and Zoning decision and good luck. Now, this
appeals process is based in both the spirit and the letter of the law. Now, both appeals
applications were missing multiple elements of the application, which were required by
law, yielding their applications incomplete. These documents were not filled -- were not
filed until long after the application deadline had passed. Now, would I have been allowed
to proceed if I was missing documents? Of course not. But in the interest of providing
the appellants the opportunity, the city -- city was willing to disregard the law. So, if we
are not willing to follow the letter of the law, then, the spirit of the appeals process is
intended for situations like the homeowner whose backyard would now be permanently
overshadowed by the building of a large apartment tower. The true meaning of not in my
backyard. It's not intended to be abused by citizens who live thousands of feet or even
miles away who disagree with the business or by large corporations anti-competitive
practices, because they want to be the only one on that corner with music and a liquor
license. I find it interesting that these appellants didn't have such an opposition to the
other 61 licensed drinking establishments that went up in Meridian, but, instead, chose to
target the one facility with flyers showing false information, intentionally deceptive
practices, such as artificially inflating the number of opposition records by having the
same people write in multiple times and after our initial approval I stopped adding to our
list of hundreds of people who were excited by our project that was moving forward, simply
because I lost count. Now, we live in an age where social media dictates how much
support something has. Now, if you would have told me that ten years ago I would have
said that was crazy. Now, people don't follow pages they don't support and as of
yesterday we have over 1 ,100 unique users who are following our pages. There are
established businesses in Meridian that don't even have that level of support. To show
you the power of social media, there is one recent cause that has roughly the same
amount of followers. The Murguotio Park project. It would help if I knew how to pronounce
that. And just because of that level of followers on social media that was enough to get
Mayor McLean to no longer consider the land swap and we garnered that level of support
without fabricating information, manipulating actions or posting yard signs on private
property without permission or having the same couples write in multiple letters, some as
many as ten times to artificially inflate their numbers. So, later they can come back and
say look at these ten people, all things that the appellants have done. It's unfortunate
that those who claim to have the highest moral character are the same people who would
use apparent and intentionally deceptive practices. I had to pay nearly a million dollars
to get the secured credit and deposits just to be able to sign this lease that I'm tied to it
regardless. Now, do you think our developers would have asked Starbucks for such a
deposit? Of course not. That left me in a strained financial situation, as that money was
a bulk portion of our improvements and equipment budget. It's exponentially more difficult
not only as a minority business owner, but as an independent one as well, not backed by
the hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars that chain stores have. Now, the 99
percent of Americans can go back to work and just make more money and there is the
one percent of the people like me that are just crazy enough to refinance their house and
put their entire life savings on a venture. Now, when faced with the obstacles that have
already been presented to me, my contacts in financing, most of the local radio stations,
music promoters and even local artists and musicians, have already said most people
probably would have given up a long time ago and this difficulty is probably the reason
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that we are in Meridian, a city of over 100,000 now, doesn't have a mid size community
venue space and yet when was the last time the City Council heard a third party appeal
on a permit? I'm not sure anyone can remember, as the planning staff certainly could not.
We live in a world now that banks and enterprise support large corporations and, then,
watch them grow so big that the fed has to step in with antitrust lawsuits. At the same
time you see situations like this where small businesses are consistently targeted and
stepped on by large national firms, propaganda, and anti-competitive practices.
Councilman Bernt, you said in your May reelection campaign that our valley partnerships
are extremely important, making it so people are able to continue to spend money and
patronize restaurants, bars, and businesses. We are starting with the addition of over 30
jobs, supporting local businesses, and I'm not sure who would be against a minority
owned business trying to open during a pandemic when the global music industry has
lost over a trillion dollars in revenue, at a time when over 150,000 bars and restaurants
have permanently closed their doors due to COVID. Now, did anyone file an appeal for
Villa Sport when they asked to have outdoor speakers and a pool side bar less than six
feet from the residential street? Of course not. Do you think Villa Sport offered any kind
of good neighbor policy or provided a direct phone number to the residents as we did, so
that management could immediately address any issues? Of course not. Do you think a
company like Big Al's or TopGolf would pledge over 25,000 dollars worth of venue use to
the Idaho Humane Society, the Meridian Canine Rescue, the Meridian Arts Commission
or dozens of local dance groups and musicians to use the space for free? Of course not.
Now, would any of these national chains reach out to local nonprofit organizations to put
their events on the calendar before they have even opened? Nope. They are here to
make money and not to involve the community in something that's truly spectacular. But
when the last 61 conditional unit use permits were approved did the Commission asked
for a ride sharing plan or a comprehensive safety plan, one that the Meridian Police
Department said was incredibly thorough and well thought out? Of course not. No one
asked Villa Sport for a safety plan of how they plan to keep intoxicated patrons from
drowning at their swim up bar or how they plan to keep noise away from a pool that's 20
or 30 feet away from the closest house? I would say as a business I have jumped through
more hoops and red tape than most businesses have ever had to experience. So, here
we are in front of the very City Council that for over a decade now I have asked promoters
all over Idaho what it would take to bring a music venue to Meridian and now that one is
here I have been subjected to the constant harassment and aggressive smear campaigns
of the appellants, who will say any falsehood they can think of. The most recent one --
we have never applied to be inside The Village. That was never part of the public record
or any other record, because we never consulted with any of their realtors. So, the bottom
line is this: Idaho Code Section 62-6512(a) of the Idaho Local Land Use Planning Act
states that the permit may be issued provided it is conditionally permitted by the
ordinance, which it is. A subject of the condition of the ordinance and the Meridian Unified
Development Code 11-4-310 meets all the requirements of not being located within 300
feet of a church or an educational institution, where, in fact, nothing is located within 300
feet, which is a full football field, which is the radius -- radius designed by law for the
potential impact regarding conditional use permits. And, voluntarily, the City of Meridian
expanded that to 500 feet. And the staff report -- I would just like to thank Mr. Dodson,
Mr. Parsons, for your hard work and your continued effort. The report states that this
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permit approval would be in compliance with over eight different requirements for
approval and added that the project -- and I quote: Will add to the city's commercial base
and will likely be of a higher benefit to the users of the future Villa Sport and residents to
the southwest of this site. The proposed business offers a new commercial use, not only
to this area of Meridian, but to Meridian as a whole. Now, they added in conversation that
much of the city staff, including the planners, love the proposed use and want it in the City
of Meridian. In addition, the project promotes the action item 6.01 .02D in the
Comprehensive Plan to develop indoor and outdoor multiple use facilities for a variety of
recreational, educational, cultural and sports purposes and uses. Now, unfortunately,
Councilman Cavener isn't here today. Are we really to believe that of the eight elements
that are required for a conditional use permit to be evaluated against, the entire team of
dozens of experts in their field at the Planning Department, the representatives of the fire
marshal and the Meridian Police Department who said they have no issues or have any
additional comments, along with the members of the Planning and Zoning Commission,
most of whom have years of extensive experience making decisions on the Commission,
all somehow got it wrong. All I'm asking for is a chance to start a business of the people
who chase a dream of something they have always wanted to do and bring something
that Meridian has been missing for decades and provides a massively positive community
opportunity and also for financial and economic growth that provides growth for both
citizens, government, and, in turn, increases available funds for schools, education, and
other community programs. Now, the appellants also accused me of using these
community relations as a ploy to gain the first approval. Well, that was two months ago
and we could have just as easily stopped fielding calls and giving out offers. Instead, the
Idaho Humane Society asked if they could use our facility to host a fundraiser, as they
didn't have any space in west Ada county before. In addition, they asked if they could
raffle off the free use of the event space as a fundraiser, which would be in total over
5,000 of cost to our facility. Of course I said yes. What about the several dozen wedding
couples who are interested in booking an event with us, because there are no midsize
event centers available in Meridian? Now, less than 20 percent of operations can be
considered nightclub use and that's why if we removed that wording from our permanent
signage and promotions we have booked over ten couples, many free of charge, to have
their weddings and receptions at our facility, putting both the Idaho Humane Society and
the Meridian Canine Rescue on our calendars, opening the venue to pet adoption events,
welcoming all ages, including kids and family events. A representative of the Meridian
Canine Rescue, which is just a couple miles away from our site, said that they were very
grateful for the opportunity to use our venue space. We have several local dance clubs
to be featured at our space that are excited to bring dancing for all styles, including hip
hop, ballroom, and country western and these groups span all ages, including a local
swing dancing group comprised primarily of age 60 and over members. We are even
working with some local high school cheerleading groups, so they can host their seminars
and meets at our venue. In addition, we reached out to the Meridian Arts Commission
and offered them the free use of our space as well for any of their future projects. Now,
Mr. Mayor, you were recently at the Elks Lodge in Caldwell and I even met the organizers
of the Elks Lodge in Boise recently and they as well were excited to have a meeting space
just down the road from them for larger events. Now, when I started taking names for our
invite only a soft opening, I figured it would take me a few months to fill. In less than a
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few weeks we had received such overwhelming demand that the list was full and I had to
start turning away anyone who was interested. A developer once told me that many
groups interested in booking before you even open is a sign of the community as a whole
is highly supportive of your project. Now, when this permit was first approved there was
a little bit of uncertainty regarding the future developments, such as which would be the
future tenants and if they would have conflicts with our site based on their hours and now
that we know for certain that there is not. If the Dutch Bros is approved, they are a drive-
through only facility, vehicles come and immediately leave with no parking and the same
with the Wienerschnitzel. We certainly don't expect their busiest hours to be at 8:00 p.m.,
where the other facilities are already closed and we are the only facility that's open door,
nor do we expect them to be having their peak hours at that time of the night. The other
consideration was would someone drive south through the neighborhood and become
confused with how a roundabout works, as Commissioner Cassinelli mentioned? Well,
that the drive aisle is fully complete and built out, I have driven it many times and I can
say with certainty that there is no confusion about how to get to Eagle Road. Now, we
provided a diagram showing the right-in, right-out configuration of the parking lot in the
areas of bidirectional parking flow and in the event that there is a sudden increase of
parking, either ingress or egress, we have implemented procedures to address this within
our safety plan, which I will get to later, and this is in addition to the fact that only a small
portion of operations would be at maximum capacity. The rest of the time assuredly there
would almost always be empty parking spaces available. The scale of this project is small
and for that reason there is no traffic impact site that was required based on the -- the --
I guess the scale of it and the fact that that's even acknowledged in the staff report. The
project is less than 1/10th the size of some other entertainment developments. So, we
are not talking about thousands of cars or people, we are talking about numbers in the
hundreds or less. I did work with the developers of the site to create a designated ride
sharing area where vehicles can get in and out of the parking lot without affecting traffic
flow to the rest of the site. It was incorrectly proposed that that would be blocking the
driveway, as there are designated parking spaces on the -- what would be planned west
of the photo, if you can go to the next slide there. In addition to that, we have the plan to
promote the increased use of ride sharing services. This plan which I submitted to the
public record as well outlines in detailed capacity thresholds to which certain plan policies
will be implemented, providing discounts on product and ticket prices used in conjunction
with a rideshare service, providing the security staff as needed to direct rideshare vehicles
into the designated space and addressing concerns of potential congestion within the lot
itself during periods of ingress-egress. Now, as far as enforcing our capacity, that's one
of the biggest questions I have been asked many times. As mentioned previously, I'm
sure that some people nearby we will be monitoring our ingress to check for an
overcapacity situation, but that is not theirjob, nor should it be required. That's something
that's the responsibility of the business to enforce diligently and as a responsibility to the
safety of the patrons. Our entrance scanner is a state of the art system made by the
same company who makes scanners for the TSA, the NSA, and other entities. To my
knowledge there aren't any midsize venues in the northwest using such an advanced
system that can notify in realtime the capacity counts and if they change, so if we are to
violate our own terms regarding the city's enforced capacity, I would be more than happy
to turn in that conditional use permit myself. Now, many studies have been conducted
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within documented use of ride sharing from occupants and drivers showing on averages
as an analysis with multiple studies 40 percent of the people who attend a maximum
capacity event will use some type of ride sharing services. Because these same numbers
have been documented nationwide, there is no reason to expect our numbers would be
any different. This means in reality our proposed four to one -- now three to one parking
ratio would, in reality, become closer to two to one with so many patrons using ride sharing
or carpooling. This is based on the numbers of one person per car, not five per car. Now,
keep in mind there are many venues without -- around the valley with much higher person
capacities that operate just fine with absolutely zero parking spaces dedicated to their
use. Now, because the City of Meridian does not have a statute or code regarding specific
requirements for parking, I have learned in my law enforcement career that anything that
isn't illegal is therefore legal. Now, using the most strict parking regulation based on the
City of Meridian's code, only 38 parking spaces are required. Now, based on the chart --
the one with the Excel spreadsheet. Because the city doesn't have an ordinance with the
parking requirements specifically for venues and event centers, I looked at ten other cities
around the country, many of which are nearby or have similar populations, and you can
see that even at the four-to-one ratio we already have anywhere from 31 to 521 percent
in excess of the number of required spaces. In the staff report Mr. Dodson states that at
the final build out the site has the ability to provide 132 parking spaces, exceeding the
code requirement by over 450 percent. These spaces are solely confined to our lot and
does not require the need to obtain cross-parking agreements. Now, the safety plan
promotes and enforces policies and procedures to maintain a safe atmosphere that's free
from illegal activity to the best of our ability. The point of a safety plan is not to scare
anybody or try and outline the potential crimes, it's to address all of the potential crimes
that could possibly come up, so that we have a procedure and a policy in place to address
those concerns before they happen, not try and retroactively take care of them as they
happen, as many facilities do. Now, a recent incident that occurred at Wahooz is
unfortunate, but it demonstrates that violence occurs anywhere and as the Meridian police
acknowledged in a public statement, these are incidents that come with growth to become
a large city. It's not related to any one location or business. Now, you have already heard
the list from the appellants. The safety plan was created in conjunction with many other
venue owners and other states across the country to include addressing exactly when
and how these procedures will be implemented, including that list of items that he listed
off. That includes all the way through fire safety, criminal incidents, screening of
promoters, identification procedures, employee safety and so on, including a two page,
12 action item document that facilitates our good neighbor policy to be distributed to
our --
Simison: If you can wrap up.
Tsai: All right. Sorry. As you can see I'm not here to do something half assed. If it's
meant to be done, it's meant to be done right, with the safety of our patrons and the
surrounding community held as a paramount standard. We are not trying to squeeze in
a stadium where it doesn't belong and I wouldn't say it's trying to fit a square peg into a
round hole, because the zoning has not changed. The zoning has been the same as far
as I can tell congruent with the City of Meridian's Comprehensive Plan. Last paragraph.
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The appellants have attempted to demonize the nightclub term by providing false
information and using intentionally deceptive practices to mislead the public into believing
the club portion was our only operation and just as a -- using parking for an anti-
competitive move, when a simple e-mail could have clarified that our site already had all
the parking we needed. With thousands of supporters across the valley, many of whom
who actually live in the area, we are only here to provide a new, fun, exciting and most of
all safe multi-purpose venue for all of the Treasure Valley to enjoy. Thank you for your
time and consideration.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thank you. You know, one thing I heard in your testimony that -- hi. Sorry.
Council Woman Strader. Thank you for coming before us. One of the things you stated
in your testimony right now in front of us was that there is not a residence within 300 feet.
I just want to get really clear on that. So, page four of our staff report says the closest
home is approximately 330 feet from the southern property line.
Tsai: That's correct.
Strader: Is that not true?
Tsai: I'm sorry, I --
Strider: Yeah. I just -- I'm just quoting from our staff report. It says the closest home is
approximately 330 feet from the southern property line. Do you agree that that is true?
Do you believe that that is false?
Tsai: No. That's correct.
Strader: And why?
Tsai: So, there is nothing within the 300 feet, because the closest house is 330 feet away.
Strader: Got it. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. So, just to be clear -- so, there is not one
within 300 feet, but they are -- you don't dispute the staff report that the nearest residence
is 330 feet from the property line?
Tsai: That's correct. I'm agreeing with the staff report.
Strader: Okay.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
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Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I have a question that might -- the response might come from Joe or Bill. Mr.
Tsai, you had mentioned about the disregard of law and filing documents and things may
not have been done properly. Are we here for no reason at all or is everything above
board?
Nary: So, Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, Mr. Tsai raised this question early on when
the filing was done by both Mr. Black, as well as Mr. Hoeger and the Kynastons. So, this
is a quasi-judicial hearing. This is not a court. So, there is no statute of limitations. There
is no strict compliance requirements. We do provide great latitude to all applicants as
they file certain things and we have provided that to both applicants for initial projects, as
well as on appeals, as well as on request for reconsideration we have granted great
leeway. This Council has great discretion to grant that. So, what I told Mr. Tsai when he
raised this question was I was not, as the city attorney, going to prohibit us from moving
forward. That's certainly something that Council can consider. You can make that part of
your decision either way. But we don't have anything in our code that prohibits
supplementing your request for an appeal with additional information, as the same as
when we file -- an applicant files information. They may file a number of supplements
before their application is complete. So, we consider this to not be like a court filing or a
court deadline, but more like a quasi-judicial discretionary decision of the Council.
Hoaglun: Thank you, Mr. Nary. So, I -- Mr. Mayor, if I might follow up --
Simison: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: -- with some questions here.
Simison: You are recognized through the duration of your questions.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you. Just a few items, sir. If we can go back to the slide that had
the parking and the Jamba Juice and -- there we go. That rideshare works. And in --
same question that I -- that I have for you and it looks like there is -- I would call it a
musician loading zone and in that west side of the building and can you describe to me
how Jamba Juice drive-through operates in this -- this picture here?
Tsai: So, I guess I should have covered that in my original testimony. As part of the
contracting process to obtain the lease with the developers, it was part of the plan that
the Jamba Juice would be forced to close about 7:00 p.m. I believe is the number. So,
before peak hours. That would leave that entire drive aisle clear, since that -- as the plan
west would dictate, that loading area that's on the west of these plans would be very rarely
used, as that would be kind of a loading area for after hours or otherwise use. So, most
of that ride sharing and designated pick up and drop off area would always be open for
the traffic flow, as well as around the drive aisle, because it would be not in service.
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Hoaglun: Okay. And to get to The Village situation, so you didn't apply there, rejected,
didn't -- didn't happen, just to clarify?
Tsai: Essentially we had checked what their rate was and, then, never filed a formal letter
of -- I think it was called a letter of intent.
Hoaglun: Okay. And I also want to ask you about regional draw, just to make sure we
are --we are on the same page on that. People use words and can mean different things.
And I guess with that question it's also -- in previous documents there is talk about the
Buffalo Club Revolution Concert House. Where do you see yourself fitting in that? Where
are you looking to draw people from? Tell me a little bit about that.
Tsai: Both of those questions I actually get quite -- asked quite often -- is, one, are you
going to be in competition with the other concert houses and I would say, no,just because
of the -- the scale. So, you go from smaller venues, into mid size venues, into large
venues. So, something even larger would be like the Idaho Center or Revolution Concert
House with the several thousand number capacities. Down from there you would have
acts that would actually be touring from Salt Lake and Portland, Seattle, those are the
ones that would fill something like the Knitting Factory, those of the one thousand number
capacity. The reason we didn't have those numbers ahead is because that's something
the architect has to deal with and we have those numbers available now solely because
we are farther along in the process and our architects have returned to us what the
proposed fire code occupancy would be, would be about 550. So, the 400 number is only
slightly below what the fire code would have approved anyway. But we don't have that
information up front, so the only way I would have to compare would be to look at other
venues and see what their capacities are. As far as our draw, we get asked that a lot as
well, just because of the nature of the acts that we intend to book. Because of the smaller
capacity around the few -- or around the 400 to 500 range, those are acts that are --
typically aren't specifically touring, but are more local musicians and artists.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you. And I don't know if you can answer this. It sounds like the
architectural work is not done, but there is -- there is drawings with mezzanine square
footage. Can you tell me -- it sounds like 7,000 square feet plus. So, what's the plus?
Tsai: That's correct. So, the intention was to build the mezzanine space, as it wasn't
considered a floor area, as anything that's mezzanine isn't considered to be -- I guess
another floor as an addition. It is solely considered as mezzanine. That's designated as
either alternative seating or perhaps an overlook area that goes -- you know, that
oversees the dance floor. That allows us to have more of an open space. So, as you
have heard -- experienced a typical concert before, kind of packed in there in front of the
stage, in this sense we can have a separate seating area for maybe people who don't
want to do that, but still want to see the actual performance and that's available to all
types of performance and art, not just concerts.
Hoaglun: So, Mr. Mayor. It's probably a concert that I wouldn't attend. If there is standing
room only and you are excited and you are at the stage and that sort of thing, that's not
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my thing anymore. So, for us older folks we could go up to the -- to the mezzanine it
sounds like.
Tsai: Yeah. So, the mezzanine is provided as a designated seating area, but it can also
work as an alternative space, if somebody wants to do -- you know, say their birthday
parties or, you know, their -- their celebration events up there, they can be there and
seated away from the entire crowd and packed in there, but still have a full visual of the
stage.
Hoaglun: Okay. There was a comment you made that I guess bothered me a little bit,
but, you know, about comments not from the neighborhood and, then, basically, saying
are they relevant and that sort of thing. Conversely, then, as a Council, do we take
comments from people who aren't in this neighborhood or out of the area saying as a
musician I want to do something there, are they not relevant to us? I -- I struggle with
that, where you say don't consider these, but for me consider these.
Tsai: To me there is a certain number of things that we can readily address. Those are
things like the safety issues, the noise, the traffic, those are things that are certainly
applicable to thing -- to people who drive outside of that area. So, for example, if you
always drive down Eagle Road, you know, is there the --you know, even though you don't
live nearby, if you always drive down the same spot of Eagle Road for your commute
every single day, are you going to be, you know, inconvenienced by the addition of extra
traffic coming in and out of this corner? Is there real consideration of, you know, what --
of the people who live outside. So, it's not to say that everybody who lives outside doesn't
matter, but it's to take into account of the fact that how would they be affected by things
that are addressable by our facility.
Hoaglun: Okay. Can you tell me how that hundred --you talked about a hundred vehicles
can be cleared out in a single traffic light and I'm very familiar with that --that intersection.
How do you -- how do you come to that calculation?
Tsai: So, it was actually in the slides here. I think -- I believe it's number four or five. How
I came to that conclusion was something I didn't have time for in the original presentation.
If we can -- no. Sorry. I didn't realize you -- it's either slide four or five.
Johnson: Joe has your presentation. He has control. Joe.
Dodson: I apologize, sir. What was the question?
Tsai: Four or five. It's the one with the satellite view of the parking lot. That one right
there. Okay. So, this is a very familiar building. It's actually the Boise School District's
district service center that's located in south Ada county. I use this as an example after I
had located it, because it has primarily right-in, right-out parking just as we do. It has
roughly the same amount of parking spaces and it also feeds directly onto a major arterial,
which is Victory Road right there and how it came about that conclusion is that I literally
sat there in a lawn chair with a stopwatch and since their salary workers they hit 5:00
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o'clock and they all got in their cars at the same time and leave the facility at the same
time right there at 5:00 o'clock rush hour traffic and that was roughly the amount of time
that it took for all the vehicles to get out was just a few minutes to make that right turn and
get out on Victory without adding any additional burden onto the arterial.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor and Mr. Tsai, they do not have a -- no right turn on red signal that
prevents that; is that correct?
Tsai: I'm sorry, are we talking about here or --
Hoaglun: Going on to Victory. Eagle has -- if you are off of Ustick turning right, there is
a no red -- no right turn on red light due to the U-turns that are --that are conducted. They
did not have that constraint; is that correct?
Tsai: That's correct.
Hoaglun: Okay. You also mentioned the Knitting Factory, no -- no parking spaces
required. You also showed a slide with a lot of major cities. Capital City Development
Corporation provides parking garages and it works pretty well downtown. If you go
downtown Boise, you know, 99 percent of the time you are going to end up in a parking
garage. Unless you get very very lucky. I just -- I'm a little -- I just -- I kind of discount
that, because that's --that's an apples to oranges -- oranges comparison and I really think
this boils down to the ability to -- to park and I hear a lot of different things that are --
whether this is a nightclub or a kid's fun zone, if it's going to draw a lot of people, we have
to consider what are the impacts and is their ingress-egress and does it -- is it going to
work. It's really not the -- what the facility is used for and we are asked to look at these
other things that are completely irrelevant. So, I hope we kind of focus on that going
forward, because that's --that's very important. You -- one -- one last thing I want to touch
on. I don't want to dominate -- I will wrap this --
Simison: The time is yours.
Hoaglun: You know, you mentioned again nearly put a million dollars in. In March 18 you
said I poured -- I have poured millions of dollars into this facility and, then, the lease and
all the obligations that go along with it and it's very obvious you do a lot of in-depth
research. You -- you are very diligent and work hard at it. You put a substantial
investment into this facility. Have done a lot of planning. There is a return on investment
and my wife and I in a much younger life had a retail establishment in Boise and you run
those numbers and you figure what the flow -- cash flow is going to be, you look at what
your employee costs are, and you base it on certain assumptions of what your business
is going to be and when you go down in the number from 1 ,000 to 700 to 500 to 400 and
it could be that you have ways to make that up, maybe it's in the cost of alcohol, you
know, you are going to change the price, which, then, changes your return customer base
completely. So, I -- I would like -- so, I have to say I'm skeptical about the ability to invest
this amount of money and have a return based on a lower -- lower usage. So, can you
help my skepticism?
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Tsai: Certainly. Just to -- to clarify that. The 1,000 number was never formally presented
anywhere as an official capacity number. So, to go down from there to say, hey, you are
now 60 percent below what you had originally proposed -- that number was never
proposed. The reason we are kind of up in the air as far as a lot of the capacity numbers
is, one, we were waiting for the architectural design to get back to us for an actual
reasonable number and, then, we were waiting to see, you know, what the staff report
from Mr. Dodson and his staff would say is what would be an acceptable number based
on the parking to have. So, you know, one -- you know, I guess I'm trying to explain it in
a way that works. So, in that sense we are not trying to make one thing fit another and
not vice-versa. I realized that that just made no sense in my head. But I guess what we
are trying to say is that we were waiting for the addition -- the official numbers to come
out of what we actually could have as far as the capacity, as opposed to proposing a
number and, then, having to go down from there. So, now that we are aware that the
building by the fire code is approximately in the 500 range, you know, it's not that far to
go from 500 to 400 versus if you were to look at it as, hey, you presented this project
originally as 1,000 and, you know, we ran the numbers of profit and loss and the balance
sheets and everything off of that 1 ,000 number, how do you go from 1,000 down to 400.
But, in reality, those numbers were based on the drink per customer and not the overall
capacity. The drink and food sales, because we are a full service restaurant and food
service as well. So, those were calculated based on the ingress-egress of the persons,
the amount of rotations for the persons, the number of food and drink per person not
necessarily based on the overall capacity.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor. I also have a few questions. So, if I may --
Simison: Yes.
Perreault: -- have the floor during that time. Thank you. So, I would like you to address
some of the concerns that we have already heard by the applicant. First we will start with
-- how do you propose to keep that limited number of individuals to 400, being -- given
that that is something you need to self regulate?
Tsai: That's actually a portion of not only our safety plan, but also the ridesharing services
plan, which, in total, I believe is about 15 pages or so and as part of that system -- it's a
system called TokenWorks. It's what's -- it's the machine that if you go and travel that
they stick your passport in and it scans it real quick. That's integrated into a network of
that -- of similar systems that have that same capacity. So, for example, in the -- you
know, the -- as I mentioned there is the maximum capacity events are the small
percentage of our overall operations. So, in the event that that happens, we would have
to have policies and procedures in effect in order to address how we are going to deal
with certain thresholds of occupancy. So, in the example of, hey, you know, we are -- we
are scanning people based on their ticket sales and, you know, our expected tickets sold
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for that night. Now, if somehow, you know, we sold tickets at the door or something and
that number is getting up towards the actual occupancy threshold, it will notify immediately
the management and myself by text message and e-mail the system has now hit that pre-
programmed threshold. So, say it's 80 percent. Well, now we are 80 percent, we know
that that parking lot is probably getting close to where it's going to be full and potentially
start affecting other things. Now, at that point it's written in our actual safety plan that at
that point we will be able to dispatch the security staff out into the parking lot to direct
people out and away from the neighborhoods, direct the rideshare services towards the
designated spot where they are to drop off and pick up people and, then, that's part of our
rideshare plan is where we incentivize people to use those services, as opposed to driving
or carpooling to the site.
Perreault: Thank you. That makes sense. So, you will have a -- you will have an
electronic way -- some -- some -- the -- the patrons will scan something that will count
them and you will have a way to -- to make sure that there is a specific head count every
time that there is an event and that's at every event or just during nightclub hours?
Tsai: That's at every single event, because we would -- not only does that system count
the overall occupancy, it would also count -- you know, it's networked with a number of
different venues around the entire world as part of the system. So, say somewhere, you
know, someone is -- they attended an event where they have caused trouble or they
started fights or something and they were on this blacklist, that scanner would, then,
immediately reject that person at the door prior to them entering and getting access and
saying, hey, we -- we have somebody who is potentially under age or a fight instigator or
likes to drink too much or any of these things can be screened out at the door, including
ingress and egress based on the system. So, that if at any moment a police officer or
code enforcement come by, hey, what's your capacity, there is no reason to speculate.
We could say, hey, it's 329 and that's a live updating figure. That's in realtime. It's not
something that, oh, well crap, I didn't count. The guy with the clicker went to lunch. We
could say, you know, we hit the button and it's immediately there. Here is our occupancy
right now realtime and we are addressing it as is.
Perreault: Thank you. So, along lines -- the same question I think Councilman Hoaglun
was getting at, which is if your business -- we want to understand what your business
model was based off of ultimately and it's -- it's not our job to make sure that your business
is profit producing, but we also don't want to have a business, you know, be operating for
a year or two and now we have an empty building with weeds on the corner of Eagle and
Ustick. So, just to be really candid about that. So, you don't need to necessarily go into
significant detail about your profit and loss that you expect. Hopefully, not loss, but -- you
know. But I would like to understand kind of the thinking along those lines as you are --
as you are making these decisions and in addition to that you mentioned that -- I want to
make sure I understood what you said. You said the nightclub is only approximately about
20 percent of what is it--the number-- 20 percent of your-- of your profit? Is it 20 percent
of the time that the facility is being used? Is it 20 percent of the amount of patrons that
are coming through the door? Help us understand what you meant by that and, then, in
addition it will -- along those same lines, you know, there is very little event space in
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Meridian. Truly. There is almost no place to book anything. As a matter of fact, the city
has had conversations about where do we book our events; right? So, there truly is a
need for that. There is no doubt. But there you could likely book that facility in the evening
for events that aren't nightclub specific events with likely very little problem. So, why not
-- if most of the public's concern is that this -- is about having a nightclub, why not just
make this an event center? Can you help us understand more about that? Is it -- it is a
-- is it a profitability thing? Is it just a passion project for you? Help give some more
understanding -- if it's really only 20 percent of what you are doing, why is that a value
add to you and the community?
Tsai: I guess I didn't really anticipate from the very beginning that the term nightclub
would have such a stigma attached to it, because if something is new, then, the only
resolution you would have as far as a mental image would be to think -- if you have never
had experience with a nightclub or you have -- it's the first one in Meridian or nobody's
done this before. Well, the only thing for you to lean back on is headlines, you know,
stereotypes and things that have happened in the past and at a certain point that's
reasonable, because if I have never been to a nightclub and I search nightclub Boise and
the first thing that comes up is man is stabbed at China Blue, well, then, that's the image
that I have in my mind is that, you know, this -- this is the situation and the reason that we
have--took our permanent signage and changed it to the lounge event center and concert
house is part of that reason. The 20 percent represents the 20 percent approximated of
what would be our total operating hours. So, for example, as far as the all ages events,
you know, yes, we would absolutely love to say, hey, this is not a nightclub period. This
is a bar-restaurant where -- and that was originally what the -- even plan said, I believe,
it said restaurant-bar -- as a place where people could come off work, they can enjoy
some drinks, it's a nice festive beach themed place so they get to sit and relax. The only
difference is on week nights, you know, we have more -- I guess visual elements. So, a
lot of the LED wall portions. The large screens that we can use for different sports events
or the family nights, the interactive floors, that type of thing. Those are all elements. For
example, we were approached by a local Latin dance group and they asked if we could
book the entire night as an all ages event. Well, then, I'm asked, well, how do you
designate --well, what is a nightclub and what is the family friendly portion of your facility?
Are they segregated or are they not. And that's where there is a little bit of confusion,
because that's where you would run into that situation if it was solely a nightclub where
we would have to designate certain, you know, places where people can and cannot go.
Whereas for the all ages night, you know, certainly there is going to be families in there
with their kids, they are going to be teaching how to dance and the way we can segregate
that is very much like you would at Canyon county or the Ada county--the Western Idaho
Fair, where we would pre-screen people at the door in advance with like the Tyvek
wristbands or an alternative method based on their IDs, where instead of having to
segregate people based on their physical location within the building, they are free to
explore the entire building and still hang out with their friends and family and do that in a
safe manner.
Perreault: Okay. So, are we to understand that it may not be operating as a dance club
nightclub every night of the week? There would be --
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Tsai: That's correct. I would imagine that's only for weekends. Most of the nights would
be strictly almost just like a bar or a hangout location.
Perreault: So -- so, approximately 20 percent of the operating hours will be used for,
quote, unquote, nightclub uses and so can you, please, answer the question regarding
whether your model works with the 400 person limitation and -- and also if there is any
consideration of making this just an event center and if-- if so -- I mean it's not-- obviously
not, because that's not what you have applied for, but help us understand. What I'm trying
to get at is I really want the public here that has concerns to understand -- and I want to
understand all of the consideration that was taken into why not just turn this into an event
center essentially.
Tsai: If you were to imagine say, for example, the Galaxy Event Center where you hosted
the State of the City address, it's a specifically large designated event center where the
issue with event centers is typically that they don't have as much of their own equipment.
Everything that they provide for your event is either rented or brought in for that day of
the event, much like a wedding or reception would be, the floral arrangements and things,
those are brought in on the day of the actual event. The difference between that and what
would be considered the lounge space and the concert house element is that the concert
house element, as well as the lounge -- kind of the visual and the audio element of that,
is those -- that equipment is permanently housed within our facility and that's what
distinguishes us between what would be the lounge slash event center. So, the event
center -- most of the people who would book a facility like that would want that entire --
essentially a shell space. They would want to bring in all their own lights, all their own
visuals, their own dance floor, their own decorations and for us that makes sense
financially speaking, because we are able to book a higher rate as a result of furnishing
the equipment in house versus saying, hey, it's -- you know, it's cool you can book a venue
here, but now you have to pay an extra 3,000 dollars to get -- book, you know, tables and
chairs brought in from a third party versus us as an all inclusive facility would be able to
provide that firsthand. So, the answer to your question regarding the kind of feasibility of
a business model such as this -- I would explain that as our -- our original calculations --
we started these probably three or four years ago -- was based upon how many drinks,
alcoholic and nonalcoholic, the food products and, then, premium products, things like
cover charges, coat checks, VIP section, you know, backstage passes, those types of
things, which are considered premium products. We did that as a balance between the
alcohol sales and the actual overall revenue of the business, not as a specific, hey, we
need a thousand people to come in this door every single night to make that not a loss.
So, those calculations were done via how many of these would we actually sell. So, for
example, if somebody is going to have one appetizer you could sell them an entree as
well. Or, hey, they are going to have an entree, why not add -- try this drink. So, those
are based on sales per person based on the amount of-- as the restaurant industry would
consider it as rotation of tables. So, for example, you have a capacity of 400, but these
guys are coming off -- this group is coming off of work and wants to go and have some
drinks and, then, they are going to go home and, then, the late night, you know, parents
are going to -- we have had several e-mails to -- I'm going to put my kid to bed and my
husband is going to watch them and I'm going to come over and have some drinks. Can
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we do that? We would have another, you know, section of customers that would come
with a different hour of the night. So, the number wasn't based on what is your overall
capacity, how many can you physically fit within the building without being either illegal or
dangerous, but it was based upon the numbers of how many people will actually come in
and out of that building. A good example is I talked to some of the facilities that are
downtown in Boise and they say, yeah, our capacity is 375, but we get 1,200 people who
come in and out of this facility throughout the portion of the night, each one with a
calculated amount of how many drinks or how many food items will they purchase or, you
know, share with their friends. So, that number isn't necessarily dependent upon the
capacity specifically, but it's actually based upon the ingress and egress of the patrons,
so that they are all not in there crammed in at once.
Perreault: Thank you. Just two more quick questions. I have been on Council for a year
and a half and I was a Planning and Zoning Commissioner prior to that and I have had --
I don't know how many conversations about parking spaces in the years that I have done
this. I don't know that I have seen any application that's had a more convoluted
explanation of what's happening with the parking than this one. So, there has been a
variety of different numbers thrown around about parking spaces and specifically it's -- it's
obvious at this point that we need to be considering parking spaces without a cross-
parking agreement. It sounds like that's not going to be a feasible option for you and so
-- and what -- I would also like our planning staff to weigh in on this as well -- what are the
number of parking spaces that you can use that's not reliant upon any of the parking
within -- with the neighboring businesses and clearly if the staff could address for us what
the requirements were, because I just -- I'm completely lost in the variety of conversations
we have heard about it.
Bernt: Mr. Mayor. Great question, Ms. Perreault.
Perreault: Thank you.
Dodson: Mr. Mayor, would you like me to go first to the applicant?
Simison: Why don't you tell us what the code requirements are.
Dodson: Thank you. So, it's one per 250 square feet of the gross floor area, which, again,
at this time does not include the mezzanine, because it's just a shell of the building. That's
our most restrictive parking ratio and it's based upon our -- the restaurant use. That only
requires, again, 7,000 square feet. I haven't done math in a long time. I apologize.
Liberal arts major after all. That -- four times seven -- 28 spaces, give or take, so --
Simison: I was going to help you out.
Dodson: Thank you.
Perreault: Say that again.
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Dodson: Twenty-eight spaces would be the minimum code requirement.
Perreault: Twenty-eight.
Dodson: One per 250 square feet. Correct. Which is a restaurant use. So, going into
this, obviously, I already knew that's not even close to the amount of parking that we are
going to need. Per code that's the minimum for these. With most conditional use permits
that's never enough. That's never what is the minimum required. I tried to use -- one per
-- would obviously be -- in the development community it's usually based on a thousand
square feet of gross floor area. So, 250 out of a thousand is a wonderful ratio. So, I tried
-- because I did not want to limit his capacity, knowing that we probably, would just pick a
number out of the air. I do not like to do that. I don't want to do things arbitrarily. I don't
think that Planning should do that. Nor should Commission have to do it. So, I tried to
utilize that same ratio. So, instead of using the per square foot, I utilized it per person
and based upon one space for every four people, which would be a capacity of 500, which
was my original recommendation. That's on site 125 spaces and I think with the current
approvals, which do not include any of the parking on the north side right here, there is a
little over a hundred. It might be like 108 spaces. This is the most -- the latest site plan
and doesn't include the -- yeah. That's what it was. One hundred and two and, then, it
does not include the six next to the building. So, it's 108 spaces. Without any additional
parking on the north side of this establishment. We, then, required, through the Planning
and Zoning Commission hearing, 125 minimum. So, as those other sites develop on the
north side -- and even if they don't, prior to commencing this use, they need to construct
those additional parking spaces. So, at a minimum 125. If you do the math they don't
have any drive aisles. You have a 19 foot wide -- or nine foot wide drive aisles, they can
add an additional -- it was like 34 spaces along the north side above 108. So, you get
more than 125 at least. So, again, I didn't want to pick an arbitrary number. So, I tried to
use the ratio and use some kind of mathematical quantitative basis for that. The cross-
parking agreement was not attainable, because of Mr. Black and all of those -- whatever
situation that occurred and that's fine. So, then, Commission decided, well, instead of the
500 we will lower it to 400. That is basically how we got here.
Perreault: One clarification on that if I could. So, the 34 spaces along the north side the
applicant would be required to construct that parking area prior to certificate of occupancy
at their own cost, irregardless -- or regardless, excuse me, of the --when the -- the actual
sites will develop?
Dodson: Council Woman Perreault, that is correct. I don't -- maybe not this applicant. I
don't know how they would work that out with the landowner, because he doesn't own
those other pieces and he's just a tenant, but that -- yes, those would have to be
constructed prior to this use commencing regardless of what uses are proposed there.
Perreault: I know it's a condition of approval.
Dodson: Yes.
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Perreault: Okay. One more question. I apologize to my fellow Council Members for
getting long. If -- there was a -- there was a statement made by the applicant that if you
have to address the -- the danger concerns -- safety concerns is a better way to put it. If
you have to address the safety concerns up front, is this too heavy of a use? Is this too
significant challenging of a use for us to be discussing? I would like to hear your thoughts
on that.
Tsai: Only from -- I guess a public safety standpoint. Before I was a police officer I was
an EMT. I worked in a lot of hospitals and trauma centers, that type of thing. So, that
type of response isn't unusual to me. It would be the same reason if you were to go to a
Walmart and see the bomb evacuation schedule posted on the wall. Well, of course,
Walmart doesn't expect a bomb to be brought into the building every single day, but it's
nice to see that on the back wall, that they have prepared for that, they have created a
plan of how they are going to evacuate the building, who they are going to call, how they
are going to address that situation. So, to me that makes me feel better that they have
planned for something in advance versus if somebody brings a strange backpack into
Walmart and all of a sudden they are like, hey, there might be a device in there, I have no
idea what to do with it. So, to me that -- I guess that's a little bit different than how certain
members of the public would perceive something like that, but in that sense I would want
to have that prepared in advance for all potential scenarios that could come up
surrounding -- we won't say as a club use, but just alcohol in general. We are not saying
that the solution of, you know, having less DUls is to just ban all bars and become a dry
county. We are saying that we are taking all the potential steps and the potential
circumstances and issues that could potentially arise to our knowledge and mitigating
those circumstances in advance using effective policies and procedures. It's what every
corporate entity and police department and fire department and -- that I know of does.
So, that way if that situation comes up there is written procedures and policies to follow
as far as how we are going to handle this situation. So, it's not in an essence that we are
intentionally trying to create something that's frightening or heavy or scary. Because of
that it's actually the opposite way. That if we have acknowledged that these are potentials
for any type of business -- back to the Walmart and the bomb scare situation -- that I
would know that they have planned for this in advance and, therefore, that isn't a situation
that could have been.
Perreault: Thank you. I appreciate you answering all those questions.
Dodson: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Yes, Joe.
Dodson: Just to put a finer point on that and to clarify for the public, as well as the
applicant and the Council, the -- some of the issues that came up for that safety plan were
asked by the Commission. That's why he made that. It wasn't something that he just
arbitrarily created. Second to that and even before that -- during our pre-app meeting,
because of the known stigma for a nightclub and people attempting to put immorality to
that use, I told the applicant that you should address some of these potential stigma
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concerns. It's something that I do with every applicant and tell them, hey, you are probably
going to run into X, Y and Z problem. You should probably address that in your narrative.
I don't want that to harbor every applicant in any future application to say, well, you
brought up three problems, so that's the three problems that you can't have. I just want
to reiterate that for everybody.
Simison: Councilman Bernt, just checking to see if you have any questions for the
applicant before we likely go to a break.
Bernt: No, Mr. Mayor. I think I'm good. Thank you so much.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I have a few that I have been waiting to see if others would ask. I am concerned
about the capacity and you talked about -- you have a system and it will tell you when you
are close to capacity. You talked about the mitigation efforts that you will take to alleviate
the parking. Does that mean that definitively, when you have the 401 st person in line to
enter your establishment that you will turn them away?
Tsai: Absolutely. Yes.
Strader: And how will the City of Meridian verify that or enforce that? Let's say we get a
complaint from a neighbor that there are 600 people. How is that going to work?
Tsai: Well, that system that I mentioned earlier actually takes a count of every license
and ID -- or any form of ID that's scanned into that system. So, if in the event that comes
up, hey, you -- you have 600 people in your facility, we can pull up the names of every
single person who is within that facility, what time they entered and what time they left.
So, we can provide an exact paper trail of how many people are in that building at any
time provided that we are asked.
Strader: Maybe a few follow-up questions. So, if somebody leaves for a smoke break
will that person be subtracted from the total capacity?
Tsai: Well, that's something we have kind of talked about a lot with Mr. Dodson regarding
compliance of code of where smoking areas have been designated and if you were to
look at the plan that's kind of in the plan -- plan west of the section where there was that
kind of loading dock area right across from the ride sharing area, there is a potential for
there to be an enclosed area or a patio or a fenced area or something there that can be
designated as a smoking area, but since they are not typically on larger events there is
no entry in -- or, sorry, there is no reentry as it said. That's the same policy that exists for
NFL games, NBA games, all of the major events across the country, there is no reentry,
which means once you are within the facility for the event is there for the designated time
that the ticket is for and, then, once you leave you are not allowed back into the building
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and it's part of the reason that we are able to say, hey, whoa, wait a second, this person
entered twice, so are we now counting him twice and that's one of the features of that
TokenWorks system is that it also prevents anti-pass back, which is the event that if
somebody scans into the building using an ID, they will go around the side of the building,
pass that fake driver's license to their friend and, then, their friend tries to get in with the
same ID and that's anti-pass back, which is to prevent the same person from entering
twice using the same ID -- or two separate people and it's for that reason if somebody
were to go out towards the smoking area, that's a kind of a fenced in kind of like corral
section, much like they would do at the Buffalo Club. There is a designated smoking
section that's only accessible from within the facility itself in and out and people are free
to go to that section and back in as they please. So, to answer your question, no, that
person would not be, then, considered to have reduced the occupancy count, because
they are still physically within the event of that building and, therefore, we don't suddenly
take them out and try to lock them back in. They are not considered to have left the
building until they go out the exit and they are checked out at the exit.
Strader: Well, I will just follow up on that. And so who authorizes you exceeding capacity
or staying under capacity? Is it you personally? Do you have managers who will enforce
that? How is that going to work?
Tsai: So, that's written into the safety plan as well. So, along with members of
management who have the phone that the neighbors can call if something comes up, so
we can immediately address that, that same phone is also linked to the TokenWork
system. So, if we reach the capacity thresholds, if there is a banned person that's
attempting to enter, if there is a prohibited person -- anything along those lines, that's
something that can be immediately -- think about how quickly your phone reacts if it's like
your wireless alarm at home goes off, it's an instant notification that comes up on your
phone. It's not something that's subject to a kind of latency and that's exactly what
happens with ours is once that threshold is reached -- it's not like, oh, shoot, we -- we
reached the capacity half an hour ago. It's, well, we are at 80 percent now and here is
the action items it will take to mitigate that.
Strader: Thanks. And I guess what I'm struggling with is -- let's say, you know, you are
giving your word that you are not going to exceed capacity. Let's just say that happens.
there is a great concert, someone incredible comes to town, you are overcapacity, what
-- what recourse is the City of Meridian going to have? What -- you know, what can we
do to enforce that?
Tsai: That was asked several times and Mr. Dodson also covered it in his testimonies as
well. One of the biggest recourses is the revocation of that conditional use permit and
once that's gone and say no alcohol, you know, anything that's associated with it can no
longer be operational and that's why I said that, you know, all I really have at this point to
give you my word that we will abide by that occupancy is that -- you know, it's not the
neighbor's job to enforce the capacity, it's not the person down the street, and we don't
even want to get the police officers involved, because, then, they are taking time off of
their call to come and inspect it and count people and get those numbers. I would rather
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that all remain in house and if that ends up being overcapacity, then, I would be the first
person to turn that permit back in and say we are not selling booze anymore.
Strader: Mr. Mayor, if you will allow me, I have a question for staff and, then, some more
questions for the applicant. I have a question about fire capacity. What square footage
-- what total square footage would we typically associate with a total fire capacity of 400
people and event space?
Dodson: Council Woman Strader, Members of the Council, that is something I don't know
specifically, because I'm not in -- I don't determine occupancy. I -- my discussions with
the fire plan reviewers were that it varies greatly based upon what is in the building,
meaning if they have tables, it's -- it greatly changes versus if it's standing remotely type
of an event versus -- kind of like what the applicant noted. If it's an event center where
you don't have anything in there versus when you have set tables and a restaurant area
that's going to drastically change your maximum occupancy. But I think that the fire,
police personnel could give you a much better answer to that than I can.
Simison: Chief, are you able to take that without Mr. Bongiorno?
Blume: I can. Absolutely. So, Council -- Council Woman Strader, to answer that question
it is largely determined by occupancy and use and I think it's ironic -- we just looked at
the back of this room, the occupancy indicated here is 400 people in this -- in this space.
It also is dictated by -- whether it's sprinklered or not and, like I said, intended use of the
occupancy and the space.
Strader: Thank you. Wouldn't the ultimate way to enforce this whole capacity just be to
require you to build a smaller building footprint that correlates to a smaller capacity and
maybe that would make your business plan work better, because you wouldn't be
incurring the capital cost of a larger facility that you can't use? Could you comment on
how that would work with your business plan?
Tsai: And part of that reason is we want that space to feel grand. So, the high ceilings,
as I would have imagined by the visual the way we have planned it and architecturally, if
you were walking in to see, you know, 16 foot floor-to-ceiling palm trees and these visuals
that go along with it, it would be more cost effective for us, certainly, if we were to say,
hey, I want one less section of this building, because originally it was planned as a six
tenant building, I believe. We will -- hey, I don't want this piece attached to the Jamba
Juice anymore, can you take 1 ,500 square feet off of my rent check, essentially. But that
would detract from our overall theme of what we are trying to provide, which is that more
upscale, the -- you know, an inviting atmosphere where people don't feel like they are
crammed in there and that leads into also the whole reason of the plan around the
mezzanine, because the mezzanine certainly isn't a critical element to any of the facility
itself. That's why we consider it as just the floor space of the 7,000 some odd number
and that -- part of that reason is for -- is to provide that kind of grandeur for that overall
space. It also allows us the extra space in the event that it's needed. So, for example,
we have dance competitions or, for example, that cheerleading camp, where, yeah, we
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are not going to fit 400 people into this building, but one person who is dancing in a
flamboyant way is going to use more total square footage than what a small space that is
compliant with fire code would overall provide.
Strader: Yeah. I guess I'm -- I'm struggling a little bit with -- the original business plan at
some point had a much higher occupancy and if your capacity is being reduced by more
than half, you know, did you have profit margins that could be reduced by half? I mean
I'm just having a hard time tracking that train of thought. I mean if you had a plan to
increase your parking in the future or something like that, that might make more sense.
Tsai: And that's certainly something that we were taking into consideration. That's
something we are working with the developers as well. I didn't get an opportunity to
answer Council Woman Perreault's question regarding the actual planned parking
spaces. So, this is an e-mail I got from our developers -- the developer's boss's boss
back in January with their actual plans and what they -- what they did for me was they
broke down the absolute worst case scenario, which is that every single building within
this development is a food serving building, which would reduce the amount of parks
required from one per 500 down to one or 250 square feet for every single building within
the plat and given these assumptions, including the shops building with the floor space
and not including the mezzanine, the plan as currently provided has approximately 125
spaces, with the absolute worst case scenario the amount of spaces required by code, if
every single building was as large as it could be and serve food would be 76 parking
spaces, so --
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: It's your time.
Strader: Just to interrupt a little bit, but -- but that's according to code, but we just heard
from our Planning staff that you are definitively being required to far exceed code,
because of the type of use. Do you have to share -- I mean I --just to like do the simple
math here, right, a one-to-four parking ratio -- and it sounds like you are required to have
125 parking spaces. Do you have to share those parking spaces with the other tenants
or not?
Tsai: At the full -- let me just go back to the staff report, just because that's more related
to the developer. So, I can't give you an exact concise answer. Let me get to the --
Simison: And that was going to be my question from that standpoint. In a development
like this typically you would say first in gets the rights, for lack of a better term. If -- if this
was approved tonight, for example, 125 parking spaces and there was 125 parking
spaces on the plan, would it preclude any other development on the property absent
additional parking being put in? So, all those other pads would be essentially rendered
useless, because there would no parking. Is that accurate?
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Dodson: Mr. Mayor, Council, the -- it's not accurate, because of the cross-parking
agreements and that -- that occurs for every commercial development that happens. We
require the cross-parking, so that the different buildings, different users can use it. Maybe
you go to one building, you don't have to park on that lot, because you don't know where
the lots lines are.
Simison: But if you have them saying you need 125 and that takes up every single parking
space in the property already, how would you approve any other building on that property,
which needs seven spaces to attribute it to when you have already assigned the rest of
them out? Really, it's kind of coming backwards into the conversation to a certain extent,
because the -- you know, as we said, this is really the first one and nothing else has been
approved from that standpoint, so it is the first bite at the parking. To me it would mean
everything else potentially would need to be not included -- and I even come backwards
to the point where, you know, 20 percent versus 80 percent of the time it -- you know, I'm
more -- I'm as more concerned about what happens from weddings from 2:00 to 7:00 with
your parking in the space, when all the other businesses are open and operating and you
are aware that your weddings have a definitely different demographic, they can have as
many as 400 people. That's when you could have as big of a parking problem on that
property is during the day for events, more so than that at night. So, that's -- at least from
that standpoint -- again, I don't know if I'm misreading the expectations, but this in order
for this full lot to develop would have to have adequate parking for whatever is required
by this, plus whatever may or may not come forward in the future or won't get developed.
Dodson: Mr. Mayor -- making me have to think. Yes and no I guess to your points. In
my experience stating that it needs 125 doesn't mean it needs 125 by itself one hundred
percent of the time. That is not how cross-parking generally has worked and that's not
how I have seen it interpreted through any site that I have reviewed or seen others review
and approve. Though I understand the logic there, especially at peak capacity events,
that is something that through this approval -- Mr. Nary can correct me if I'm wrong -- you
-- could be added as a clarifying point to that condition and, therefore, it would, essentially,
render some of the future uses to be very minimal square footage, which would be a
Dutch Bros that only requires three spaces, because it's 500 square feet box and if that's
what we want and that's what we want. But that would be a finer point that I think would
have to be added by this Council. I don't think that our current code and the way that we
review and interpret parking agreements would say that -- that 125 just for this site one
hundred percent of the time would be the requirement and everybody else -- sorry.
Simison: Okay.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Nary.
Nary: I would add to what -- what Joe is saying. I mean I think the concern you are
raising -- and it's a valid point for the Council to consider -- is is that consistent with a
mixed use regional; right? Because the intent of the regional is to have a variety of uses.
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Allowing this one use up front with, again, correct me if I'm wrong -- the building's not
built.
Dodson: Correct.
Nary: So -- so, there is a lot of ifs that are -- we don't know versus going into a building
that's already built. So, there is some concern -- or maybe at least some valid concern
for the Council to consider whether or not this could impact the future ability for other
users to locate on this site. If you don't mind, I would like to at least address something
that Council Member Strader brought up -- and this -- I don't know if it helps or hinders
the conversation, but there has been a lot of conversation about this building and its
function, both as the nightclub and by other functions and, again, the building is not
constructed, so I don't know where the kitchen is going to go, I don't know where the floor
plan is, I don't know -- in Idaho you can have a restaurant that serves alcohol and you
can have a bar that serves food. They are not the same thing and they are classified
differently by the state and restaurants don't allow you to have smoking, so you can't have
a smoking area in a restaurant. So, again, I don't know what this is yet, because there is
no floor plan, there is no application, and there is no liquor license application. So, we
would look at all of those things in trying to figure out how to separate minors from adults
in certain functions. Again from an enforcement standpoint it becomes a real challenge
to deal with. We haven't had a lot. I mean we have an event center, like Galaxy, where
they have minors there at weddings and events. So, I mean we can work through it, but
I just don't want to leave it open or unclear to folks that somehow there is just very defined
matrix that we can -- you know, that we know all of that and the capacity and how we are
going to enforce is clear, we just aren't there yet. Again, we don't have an application to
review or any way to know what the state's perspective is going to be on this as well. So,
this is just a conditional use to allow this use to happen on this site. It doesn't have any
of the other details to it yet. So, some of those things I don't have a good answer to, but
I just wanted you to know there are some questions out there that we still would have to
answer if this were to be approved.
Strader: Thank you. I think I'm good now with my questions and will hold off on the rest.
Simison: Okay. Council, anything else?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, one quick question. Very simple straightforward. On a full concert
night how many employees will you have working at your facility?
Tsai: I would guess in the range of 15 to 20.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Simison: Okay. With that, Council, we are going to take a recess. We will try to
reconvene at five after 9.00. So, just about 15 minutes.
(Recess: 8:51 p.m. to 9.08 p.m.)
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Simison: All right. Council, we will go ahead and come back from recess and we will
move into our public testimony for the evening. As a reminder, each person will be
provided three minutes, unless you are representing the homeowners association, where
it can be up to ten minutes. Just as a -- as you come up remember to state your name
and address for the record, so I don't have to repeat that every time, please. Otherwise,
I will interrupt you to get that on the record for those that wish to testify. But we will just
go in the order that the clerk has to bring people in, both remotely and in the room and,
then, we will get to anybody that would like to provide testimony that did not sign up in
advance. So, Mr. Clerk.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Borton.
Borton: Sorry to interrupt. Just real quick -- and you might have covered it at the start.
But one of the things just -- we have got a lot of members of the public here, but we spent
a lot of time before tonight starts reviewing both the appellant's materials and the
developer's materials. We also spend a lot of time -- a lot of time on something like this
-- going through all of the materials that you submitted. A lot of people submitted
information to us that aren't here. Many of you probably are here and you also submitted
things in writing. So, prior to tonight we have reviewed all of that. We might have
questions for you on individual things that you might have provided to us. So, just wanted
to make that acknowledgement that we have gone through it. We appreciate it. It's a
huge part of this public process. It's a part of our preparation coming into meetings like
this and so we appreciate you participating in writing and if you are not here and you are
watching remote, thank you as well for providing us your comments in preparation for
tonight. Thank you, Mayor.
Simison: Mr. Clerk.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, I'm starting with those that signed up in advance online. Also
regarding HOAs, several people marked HOA -- several people from different -- similar
HOAs. We have multiple representatives from one HOA, so I will defer to you and I would
defer to the crowd to recognize -- or state their -- state they are representing an HOA so
you can make that call. Our first sign in is Colleen Shaw.
Shaw: Honorable Mayor and esteemed Members of the Council, I appreciate this time to
address you. My name is Colleen Shaw and my address is 2344 East Garber Drive in
Meridian. Now, we rely on you as our elected Meridian City Council to balance the
business vitality, safety, and quality of life in our community. The Oasis nightclub decision
should not be made with haste or without considerable scrutiny. It is a decision that will
set a precedent for other similar venues in the future and how they will be managed. We
don't have a nightclub currently or a venue of this sort in Meridian, so this will set a
precedent. Nightclubs and other venues of this nature will best serve our city being placed
in commercial areas and entertainment districts where the impact on residential
communities will be minimized. There is plenty of space in our city outside of the
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residential areas. During the Planning and Zoning meetings The Oasis nightclub was
mischaracterized by being compared as similar to restaurants that serve alcohol, such as
Chili's and Barbacoa. This is not true. Many major cities throughout the U.S. have made
this distinction very clear in their zoning laws and ordinances. Retail and commercial
zoning is very dissimilar and completely unalike to nightclub zoning and one of the -- I
think one of the main differences is if you go to a Chili's or a Barbacoa you don't see
security guards at the door and a nightclub could not operate without -- without security
guards at a door because of the nature of their business and because of the clientele they
will attract. While most patrons to a business like this may be law abiding citizens,
intoxicated, disorderly, and violent individuals are also anticipated to come and this is the
reason that all nightclubs have to have security and Chili's and Barbacoa do not charge
different amounts for the men and the women who are attending, like Oasis nightclub
does. The Oasis nightclub is a nightclub and not a restaurant and should not be treated
as such. I'm also very concerned about this intersection on the corner of Eagle and
Ustick. It's in the heart of our community. It is the lifeblood bind between the highway
and State Street. So many people travel it every day. If we negatively impact the traffic
on this we are impacting our whole community. Our community deserves to be -- have a
sustainable traffic flow and I'm concerned a business like this, with the few access points
they have, the right turn in, right turn out and the problem at the light will increase the
number of traffic accidents. Meridian has experienced tremendous growth. City planning
for the future becomes even more critical to the viability of our city and the surrounding
areas. Many cities in the United States already have zoning ordinances banning some
-- banning nightclubs by residential areas or schools or churches for a reason.
Simison: Thanks. That's the wrap up noise.
Shaw: Thank you very much. Appreciate your time.
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Jeffrey D'Andrea.
D'Andrea: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, my name is Jeffrey D'Andrea. 2347 East
Wigle Drive, Meridian. 83646. Although I appreciate the applicant's work in the past and
his work as a police officer, EMT, and all those other kinds of things and how much he
has spent into this, those are playing to emotions and it should have nothing to do with
what is going on and what we are trying to stop here or why we are trying to stop it. It's
only because of code and what it is bringing to us. Even though they have mentioned
that they have gone down to 400 persons, I want to read to you what this is. This is
directly from their homepage. Oh, great. I just disappeared. Sorry about that. They say
they are a nightclub and they want to be a world class nightclub. They want to be an
EDM, which is electronic dance music nightclub. That is what they are set up to be. Even
though they want to propose themselves as wedding and other functions, even if we have
those during the day you tell me if we have 400 people capacity at an EDM, a lot of times
-- I have talked to people in Portland, I have talked to people down in Utah, a 10,000
square foot venue has anywhere from 750 to 1 ,200 capacity and they have an overflow
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of people waiting sometimes to get in. Just because they have a monitoring system that
says I have 400 people in, doesn't mean I only have 400 people that came in and are
parking. There could be people loitering in there. There could be extra parking spaces.
The same can be said for a wedding. If I have a wedding of 200 guests or 300 guests,
they are not going to come at four in a car. They are going to come at two, maybe three
if it's a family. The same thing with the cheerleading things. If you put ten to 12
cheerleaders per team and we have ten teams in the valley with two parents, we are
talking anywhere from 200 adults to 240 adults coming in cars. That's 100 cars or 120
cars in a space that does not have that many parking spaces and that's going to be during
the day, especially on a weekday -- or weekend day. Excuse me. The other thing I take
exception to is that he called into question the public's -- almost the morality of our -- of
our proposals and things like that with taking into questions how we were acting and
things like that. We are bringing up information that we find to be in discrepancy. I could
care less if it's an EDM. If they had a parking lot like they do at Kohl's or like they do at
Lowe's, this would be a great place, but he says we have those -- I'm closing now. That
you -- like you said, Councilman, that we are not supposed to take the members of the
community. Well, we had a bunch of members of the community here supporting us and
each one of these I have come to -- all three of them. They have had minimal members
supporting them. So, if they have all those members supporting them where are they and
why aren't they here with their information? Thank you very much.
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, Deanne Scheldan.
Scheldan: Honorable Mayor, distinguished Councilman, Deanne Scheldan. 2748 East
Van Oker Court in Meridian. Thank you for giving me this opportunity to express my
concerns about The Oasis nightclub. I have lived within a one mile radius of this area for
the better part of 30 years. I currently live within a half a mile of this location, so I take
offense to the fact that he said that nobody within this area of impact, because 300 feet,
of course, yes.
Johnson: Can you speak into the mic.
Scheldan: Oh. Sorry. So, the --the reason I'm here tonight is because what -- the reason
I love this area is because it's a quiet and safe neighborhood, in spite of the development
that's already there. This parcel of land has been approved for the Villa Sport, which we
have already talked about, and we have talked about the -- the traffic concerns. I feel that
there is inadequate parking, which will force people into that Jackson Square
neighborhood, which is a mixed use neighborhood, which has very narrow streets. There
is a lot of residential parking. Residents that park -- if you add another resident or another
patron parking in that neighborhood there is no way a fire truck is going to get in that
neighborhood. That to me is a safety concern. They talked about Ubers and people
taking rideshare. Patrons from Boise and Nampa will probably rideshare, just like we do
when we go down to downtown Boise. Meridian residents like their cars. It's a rural area.
People -- it's -- and to be fair, it's not a very walkable and bikeable neighborhood yet. We
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hope that it will be. That's everyone's goal. But it's not. So, to think that people are going
to Uber in I think that's rare. I think people will think it's only a mile away, it's only two
miles away, and they will drive their cars, because Ustick at 2:00 a.m. right now is a very
quiet street. That's their thinking. My final point tonight is that I love the City of Meridian.
I chose to live here for a reason. Like you I want all businesses to thrive and survive.
This business -- this business model, the only way it is going to thrive is if it's packed with
people. As you guys have mentioned tonight, it's going to require a high density in order
for it to be successful. This EDM genre that is touted on their website is loud, bass driven
music and laser lights and the drug and alcohol consumption is going to drive his
business. It's very very close to that neighborhood. I feel sorry for those people. They
are going to already experience some extra noise from the sheer traffic, the outdoor music
of Villa Sport and all that, that's changing their neighborhood. I get that we don't -- we
are not against commercial property, but just one last thing is -- I know that you are looking
to become an AARP livable community. That's one of your goals on your website. We
have two over 55 developments that have been within a mile of this location. I'm not sure
that this is going to benefit you in that request or that desire to become an AARP
development. So, I would just ask you to, please, consider the long term effects of -- of
this and the precedence that it could set for future development in other areas of the city.
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Michael Fassler. He is online and, Michael, you can unmute
yourself.
Fassler: Great. Thank you. Honorable Mayor and City Council, my name is Michael
Fassler. My address is 150 Lincolnway, San Rafael, California. I'm speaking on behalf
of Villa Sport, which, as most of you know, is planning to build a large athletic club and
spa that caters to families on the track directly adjacent to the proposed site. But Villa
Sport is a proponent of assisting local businesses and developing the area around it.
However, Villa Sport cannot support the project as proposed due to its fundamental
problems and the fact that throughout this process the applicant has consistently
misrepresented the true facts of the project. Applicant fact. The parking lot will be 125
spaces with 40 to 70 spaces to be added by new tenants to the north. True fact. The
landlord's own marketing brochure shows only 117 spaces with Wienerschnitzel and
Dutch Brothers coffee on the northern pad. Applicant fact. Other tenants will be a bank
and a coffee shop that close early, so project's parking requirements won't overlap with
other tenants. True fact. Two of these other tenants are actively being marketed under
a marketing brochure, Wienerschnitzel and Dutch Brothers, both of which would be open
until at least 10:00 p.m. seven days a week. Applicant fact. Villa Sport has even refused
to even consider a cross-parking agreement by developers, including applicant since
2018. True fact. Absolutely not true. And I note that applicant has never directly
contacted Villa Sport or our representatives. Applicant fact. Villa Sport tenants filed this
appeal per applicant's Facebook page. True fact. These appeals were filed by nearby
residents and an adjacent commercial landowner. Finally, applicant fact, applicant was
rejected everywhere else in Meridian, because it was not a national tenant, as he spoke
at the most recent P&Z meeting. True fact. I spoke yesterday to the vice-president of
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leasing at The Village, who said that with more information and subject to capacity, he
would entertain this use within that project and that The Village always considers
nonnational tenants and has quite a few nonnational tenants among its mix. So -- and
aside from these misrepresentations fundamental issues exists with the project itself.
First, project is under parked. Actual site parking being marked as 117 spaces and six of
those are designated by applicant to be dedicated to rideshare companies. So, it really
is only 111 spaces and these parking requirements also should account for the
Wienerschnitzel and Dutch Brothers late night uses and, then, finally, as brought up this
evening, project parking should also account for overlap between patrons waiting to go in
and out throughout the evening, which could also be a very significant amount of traffic.
Second. Traffic circulation poses a safety risk and create major traffic flows over areas
directly in front of our club. Serious safety concerns are created by applicant's excessive
use of the proposed driveway traversing into the club to North Centrepoint Way. Even
the P&Z had access concerns and they -- they conditioned the proposed project upon
approval and construction of this east-west driveway and as would be expected, these
will attract, with nightclubs and concerts, younger patrons attending these events.
Studies have shown that they tend to be less experienced, pay less attention, and drive
more aggressively. Villa Sport will have families crossing this driveway in order to --
Simison: I don't know if you could hear that where you are remote, but your time is up. If
you can wrap up, please.
Fassler: Sure. In conclusion, applicant is trying to make his problem our problem, without
really considering The Village a more appropriate destination, applicant chose the subject
site, a site that lacks enough access and parking to support his desired use. If it doesn't
work he needs to find another location. Thank you for your consideration.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions? Okay. Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Joyce Mauck. Joyce, if you were online -- oh, never mind.
There you are. My apologies.
Mauck: Good evening, Honorable Mayor and distinguished Council Members. I am
Joyce Mauck. I reside at 4031 East Conklin Drive, Meridian, Idaho. 83646. 1 live very
close to this proposed site of The Oasis going in. We could ride our bikes to -- over to
Jimmy John's, Kohl's, and all that. But we don't, because the traffic is crazy. So, for
safety reasons we don't. And I'm here first and foremost because I'm a homeowner and
I'm a parent and I think, as I said, traffic already is crazy there. This concerns me more
and it's been stated, so I'm not going to go too much into that. I am concerned about the
safety out on the road. I have children that are now adults, just graduated, one has, and
I worried about their safety out there with -- and if we add more drunk drivers -- I mean if
we add more drivers that could potentially be drunk from going to an establishment like
this so close to home, I worry about safety, vandalism, crime, all that. I'm a teacher and
I teach my students about our city government, how we can be involved and make a
difference. We do mock city council meetings to demo and we take a topic and --to show
the kids what they can do when they are adults, how they can come participate in their --
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in their city and what's going on and make a difference. So, we have a right to our
concerns and to express these in a respectful -- respectful manner, just as we are doing
tonight and just like I teach my children in the classroom, but that's why we are all here
tonight. I mean there is lots of other things we could be doing, but everyone is here for a
reason, whether they are -- they oppose it or they are for it. We all took time out of our
schedules to do that. We care. We want Meridian to be a great place. This is our future
affecting our families, our neighborhoods, and our friends. The other thing I wanted to
say was that -- that chart that was shown about the Boise School District and how they
can clear that parking lot really quick, it's -- thank you. You are awesome. It's up
presently. So, this shows -- I teach in the Boise School District, for over 20 years, and
this is our -- as Brian showed, this is our district office and so that -- when we go for PDs
and when we go for board meetings, things like that, and we have a lot of us there, that
parking lot doesn't clear out quick. There is not enough parking. It gets busy. So, he
must have hit it on a good day for it to clear like it did. Like I said, I have attended a lot of
things there over the last 20 years. So, that was kind of -- that was inaccurate. And the
other thing that really struck me -- and I want to just mention this really quick is Brian
mentioned that the Planning and Zoning meeting that he was a minority and he mentioned
it again tonight. Well, I have the most amazing beautiful daughter that is -- was born in
the beautiful country of China and we are so proud of her. She graduated with honors
because of hard work, perseverance, and going through a lot of obstacles with things
she's had to overcome, so -- and she -- she didn't graduate with those honors and all that
hard work because of her race. She did it because of who she is. So, I'm not here tonight
opposing this, because of anyone's race, I'm here tonight opposing this because I don't
feel like it's a good thing for me, for my neighborhood, for my family and our community.
Thank you.
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Irene Wagner. She is not here. So, next is John Buckner.
Mr. Buckner, I'm -- you are going to be able to share your screen in just one moment.
Buckner: Can you hear me?
Simison: Yes, we can.
Buckner: Thank you, Mayor and Council, for the opportunity, again, to speak here. First
I just wanted to thank each of you for your measured and logical interaction with the
information offered and the arguments put forward. I'm just -- I have been really
encouraged tonight just by having you there on the Council.
Simison: John, if you can, please, state your address for the record.
Buckner: Sorry. Thank you. John Buckner. 3877 South Picasso Avenue, Meridian.
Many of us who have migrated here in the past few years and continue to do so, especially
from the coastal areas, we are familiar with nightclubs and all the bells and whistles that
go with urban life. The applicant would have us believe that Meridian is deficient without
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these things and yet, ironically, for all that our city lacks, many of us have willingly given
up the urban life in favor of Meridian. Despite all the cities which Mr. Tsai named have
music venues, for Meridian, not these others, like Emmett or Boise or anything, with --
with the more advanced venues, that ranked number three in the fastest growing cities of
U.S. in 2020 and the longer that I and my family are here, the more that we are convinced
that we really do live in a Treasure Valley. However, I believe that The Oasis will have a
net negative impact on the community. Now, listening to the discussions it seems like
there could be more nuance to this than I realized, but one of the things that really stuck
out to me was the presentation, especially on Mr. Tsai's website, of the emphasis on EDM.
Now, I appreciate Mr. Tsai's concerns about the tendency for people to overreact about
things that they don't have any personal experience on. That's a very reasonable
concern. But I do have personal experience. I have a close friend whose life was nearly
ruined because of the prevalence of the drug culture in EDM type venues, both in terms
of participation and even dealing in drug trafficking. My friend's life nearly ended in
imprisonment. Now, obviously, anybody can make poor decisions and anybody can really
seek out, you know, harmful substances if they want to, but I would like to ask do you
really want to be respected for making it easier for the youth in our community to have
access to these things when that type of culture is prevalent in these types of
establishments? We came here a couple years ago and we had our first Christmas here
and we picked out our first Christmas tree. Now, change is hard and moving to a new
places is hard, but this farm that we found right there on that corner of Ustick and Eagle,
it really kind of helped us be one of the things that cemented our sense of welcoming and
calling Meridian home and we had a great time and I really think this captures the reason
why a lot of people want to be here, why they are coming here. You know, they— Meridian
was the fastest growing in 2020. Third ranked -- and that's before places like The Oasis.
Simison: John, you probably didn't hear your -- the buzzer went off. If you could, please,
wrap up.
Buckner: Yes, sir. Anyway, I just wanted to conclude by saying, you know, we have a
great pearl here in Meridian. You know, let's hold on to, rather than letting it become just
another shiny shell of what it once was. Thank you very much.
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you.
Buckner: Thank you.
Johnson: Mayor next Carmalita Kerry. She has left. Ben Wilson.
Wilson: Mr. Mayor, Council, I'm Ben Wilson. I live at 1932 East Star Lane. I appreciate
you staying with us late and hearing us out. I submitted a personal testimony online and
I will let you read that and it was a little on -- more on the emotional side. I want to add a
professional testimony. I am a family physician, work part time in urgent care, and I also
I'm an assistant professor of family medicine at Idaho College of Osteopathic Medicine,
where I spend most my time. We experience --we teach in medicine that when somebody
comes in with a toxicity and you will find out that they have been in an EDM type of
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investment, in your diagnostic probability of intoxication with Ecstasy and -- excuse me
-- MDMA is much higher, to the point the association is so strong that it's in our literature
that you ought to be considering this if somebody is involved in this culture. So, I want to
provide just a little bit of evidence that what Mr. Buckner just said, that it's a drug culture,
is not just stigma. Mr. Tsai spend a lot of effort in his core arguments tonight saying he is
a restaurant. He is a regular event center. But the -- to cite one article in 2016 published
by Cambridge University Press that I read earlier today, they did a study in New York on
an EDM festival and they found that 40 percent of attendees had used Ecstasy or other
illegal drugs. So, there is good data in the medical world to support the idea that this is
not just a benign restaurant or another event center. There is a strong drug culture that
is a dangerous drug culture associated with this. So, in addition to my personal written
testimony, I strongly recommend not allowing this to move forward for the sake of our
community. Thank you.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: I saw in your written material that you also teach at ICOM?
Wilson: Yes, sir.
Borton: How long have you been doing that?
Wilson: About a year and a half.
Borton: Good for you.
Wilson: Yeah. It's been great.
Borton: So, I take it from your written testimony and your comments here that your
concerns are -- are much different than it's not adequately -- adequately parked or -- or
it's going to have sound pollution to the neighboring community, it's more the substance
of what occurs on the property; is that a fair statement?
Wilson: Yes. Precisely. Yeah. And I know in -- in a setting like this we have to deal with
code and details. Big picture wise we came here because we love Meridian and it's a
family friendly area and -- so, both in my -- my whole soul I want to keep this special and
I think this decision would detract from that and, then, from my professional self, this is
not a benign decision. This is -- there is good evidence that this is -- bring in drug culture,
which is not safe.
Borton: Thank you.
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Simison: Council, anything else?
Wilson: Thank you.
Simison: Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, Cherilyn Kynaston.
Kynaston: Hello, Mr. Mayor, Councilmen, Council Women. I know that I am one of the
appellants who brought this before you, but there have been disparaging remarks made
about me and my co-appellants that I feel compelled to talk about and I also have ten
people who have asked me to speak for them, so with that I respectfully request ten
minutes to speak on their behalf.
Simison: Mr. Nary. As a -- as a listed person on the thing as a -- that's what their time is
for is to -- their 15 minute follow up.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, yes. I mean we have had occasions where one of the people in the
appellants wanted to make their own personal statement, but it's still three minutes. I
mean it's just their own personal statement. But, again, if -- if this is part of the rebuttal
that needs to be part of the rebuttal.
Kynaston: No, this is not part of the rebuttal.
Nary: Okay.
Simison: They are your comments in reference to comments made by the applicant then
-- because you are listed as one of the applicants on this where, technically, if you are
making comments about what other people have said in this room, I will consider it part
of the rebuttal and take it from the 15 minutes of that portion. I think you would prefer to
have that done later. Is there anybody else in the room that can speak -- make these
comments on your behalf, rather than yourself as one of the applicants listed? I just have
to be -- I need to be fair and equitable.
Kynaston: That's a good question. If people would like to speak on my behalf, meet me
in the back of the room and I will tell you the points.
Simison: If you wouldn't mind going and finding the person and, then, you can have them
come up, that would be great.
Kynaston: Okay. Do I get my three minutes though?
Simison: I would prefer not.
Kynaston: Okay.
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Simison: I prefer that to be during -- again, you are listed as one of the people on it.
Kynaston: Understood. Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next -- and I apologize if I am not reading this correct, but Corrina
Beard.
Beard: Thank you for allowing me to speak, Mayor and Council. I live at 3027 North
LeBlanc, which is one of the closest houses to this development. I'm opposing this
development because there is not enough parking. Along the side of my house is this
public street. On the opposite side of my house is the public street with fire hydrants, with
no fire lanes, and I witness people running the stop sign there -- I would say ten cars go
by, one stops. If you want to look at the map you can see exactly where my house is. It's
dangerous already. I worry if my dog gets out. I worry if my neighbor's grandkids get out.
Jimmy John's speeds through there. There is not enough parking in this Oasis parking
place to -- the overflow is going to come on my street right in front of my house. I don't
want a nightclub. I love going to nightclubs. I love going to concerts. I love venues. I'm
a social person. I have lived across the street from a park, a football stadium,
Shakespeare festival. I live in public places, because I like to walk and I like to go do
things and this nightclub -- I mean if there was adequate parking and it wasn't going to
flow over in front of my house, which I have tailgated out in front of people's houses very
disrespectfully and I feel bad about that though now as a homeowner and I just -- I don't
want it in my house. I don't want it in my front yard. The NIM -- or whatever they said,
whatever the -- NIMBY or whatever-- I mean I don't -- I have the right to have my opinion
and I'm not -- I'm not for this.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, quick question.
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Corrina, what -- what is the source of the traffic right now? Is it like the freaky
fast drivers or --
Beard: Yeah. It's the freaky fast drivers for sure. But I will tell you that I have seen -- I
can see out my window where -- exactly where this is going to be and I see people zipping
through that road right now. I mean I can count ten cars a day just washing dishes --
zipping through that road that's not even developed. I mean there is big sewer lines that
are exposed with -- there is cones around there. But I see people like -- oh, there is a
shortcut, let's go through there and, then, they end up where the roundabout is and they
fly through the stop sign -- I mean it's a safety problem. I mean it really is.
Hoaglun: Great. Thank you.
Beard: Thank you.
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Simison: Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Leah Schultz.
Schultz: Good evening, Mayor and City Council Members. My name is Leah Schultz.
My address is 12782 West Fiddleleaf Drive, Boise, Idaho. So, technically, I'm Boise, but
I live less than a mile from this house -- or from this location. And I have lived all over the
world. Nairobi. Casa Blanca. I have been in major cities. Paris. New York. So, the
unknown change -- a drinking establishment is not scary for me. That's not why I'm here.
I'm here because I'm concerned about my kids' safety. We walk from my house over to
The Village or Kleiner Park frequently, crossing Ustick Road, and it is already scary. We
have the pedestrian crosswalk, but when you are -- anything with a two year old is scary.
So, we already navigate that. We do it in the great summer evenings that we have in
Idaho. I'm from Idaho. And I am really concerned about adding traffic to that and trying
to navigate across that street with children that are unpredictable, even though I have
death grips on them. In addition to that I am a housing owner. I have never had a real
estate agent say you should buy next to a nightclub. It does great things for your home
value. So, I am very concerned about that and I'm also concerned that in the cities that I
visited and lived in you rarely find one of these establishments by themselves. They tend
to draw more of these types of establishments and this is my community, this is my home,
and I do not want to live in a type of place that encourages heavy drinking. We use Eagle
Road frequently. It is busy all the time. I used to be able to go from 10:00 to 3:00 and
now it doesn't matter when I go, it is crazy busy. So, those are my main concerns tonight
and I also am concerned that there is an Uber shortage, a Lyft shortage of drivers right
now. There is no place that patrons can walk safely to. Used to go backpacking a lot
when I was younger. I lived in the north end and came home a lot of times late at night
-- I saw people downtown Boise that could barely walk and now you are going to put those
same type of patrons right up in Eagle Road and I see that just as a recipe for disaster.
The patrons -- the bartenders may monitor what people drink when they get there, they
cannot drink -- monitor what people come -- drink beforehand or other locations. So, I
urgently ask that you consider this and that you consider the safety of the community and
my kids as you look at this proposal.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, I have a question.
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: This is something I wanted to ask several of the individuals giving public
testimony and, hopefully, also we will hear from the applicant. Is there a difference -- you
know, you have got Wingers and you have got gas stations that have alcohol and you
have got Chili's, you have got a variety of drinking establishments in that area in which
any of those individuals could -- could drink and be drunk and -- even in the daytime.
Schultz: Yeah.
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Perreault: So, is there a difference that there is a drinking establishment that's serving it
at night when fewer people are on the road than in the day when more people are on the
road, as far as like concerns over safety with alcohol use?
Schultz: So, in my experience when I go to a restaurant I'm drinking beer or wine, if I'm
drinking. I'm honestly not much of a drinker. But, you know, it's lighter stuff. Whereas if
you go to a nightclub it's usually heavy alcohol that is served and promoted and those are
the drinks that are usually most expensive, the fancy ones, and so it's not just the fact
that there is some drinking -- if you have a beer over an hour with food the result is going
to be much different than if you are throwing back, you know, several shots or anything
like that. So, that would be my type. It's -- it's not just that there is some drinking, but it's
the type and a lot of times, let's be honest, people are going to get -- dance, they are
going to get intoxicated. That's the goal. And if you wander out there is no Lyft, there is
no Uber drivers, it's going to be very easy for these people to be -- end up on Eagle Road
and it doesn't matter what time of night it is -- it's -- it's busy, you know, in my experience
at least.
Simison: Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, Lexi Paden. Paden?
Simison: Lexi, if you can state your name and address for the record.
Paden: Hello, Honorable Mayor --
Johnson: Can you pull the mic down to you.
Paden: Hello, Honorable Mayor and City Council Members. I'm Lexi Paden and I live at
3514 North Hawkins Avenue, Meridian, Idaho. 83646. And I speak on behalf of families
of youth in Meridian and my own family. I'm here to say that I respectfully disagree with
the nightclub. Meridian is a growing city with many kid friendly activities, such as
swimming, like libraries, and the nightclub, on the other hand, which is one of the most
busiest streets of Ustick and Eagle that is already congested, will make people drunk and
more result in car crashes and do parents want this environment for their children?
Children are growing up here Meridian and parents don't want this for their children. I am
speaking for the youth here at Meridian and I hope you will keep this in your mind and
thank you for your time.
Simison: Thank you. You did a great job.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Thank you, Lexi. Just have to realize you conquered one of the
biggest fears in life and that's public speaking, so good job.
Johnson: Next is John Critchfield.
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Critchfield: Honorable Mayor and Members of the City Council, thank you for allowing
me to speak. My name is John Critchfield. My address is 4529 North Tempest Way,
Meridian. I live close to this area and I realize this is very emotionally charged issue and
so a lot of people are here for that reason, but at the same time I realize that your decision
tonight is based on the objective facts as stated by our honorable attorney here earlier on
and so with some of those objective facts I think it's important that we are also fact
checking some of the things that are -- some of the statements that are made tonight and
whether or not that corroborates with some of these points that we are trying to make,
which our decision is based on tonight and so, first of all, some of those facts are the fact
that the -- I agree and side with the -- with the appellants over here, Mr. Black and the
Hoegers. To make that clear I add my testimony to theirs that I don't think that this is a
viable use of our community space, that it will actually be a detriment to -- to our
community if you just focus on the traffic factor alone. But the fact is is that 83 percent of
the a-mails that were received that were corroborated by our appellants here, were from
very -- were from unique people were against this proposition and 17 percent of those e-
mails, of unique people, were actually for the nightclub. Also one of the most important
fact checks is that TokenWorks is the name of the company that actually is responsible
for doing this electronic door check-in process to determine whether or not -- how many
people are the maximum occupancy and TokenWorks does not actually have ability to
connect with other businesses and nightclubs. You can only connect with nightclubs or
other businesses that you own. So, you are not able to collaborate with others that --
whether or not this is somebody who is a dangerous person or drinks too much or
something like that. So, that's not -- not something that should be included. Villa Sport
is already the regional draw to this area and we don't need Oasis to help us out with that
and if 20 percent of the occupational use of the time being spent on this nightclub is for
nightclub purposes, if you actually look at the hours of operation throughout the week,
you are talking about he is only going to use two hours a night. Now, I realize that most
of that is probably going to be on the weekend, so if that's the case, then, we should
probably make as a condition of the CUP that that 20 percent is only on weekends and
not during the week as a suggestion. But the fact is is that the city is not responsible for
his irresponsible investments or his lease agreements. We are responsible for making
sure that we are doing what's right for our community and, obviously, according to these
points, it's going to be a detriment to our community, just on traffic alone, but also making
sure that we are fact checking some of these factors and, let's face it, you are all elected
officials and we all believe in a government that is for the people, by the people, of the
people and we hope that our combined voice is also making sure that that's being known
here tonight and we appreciate you taking that into consideration. So, thank you very
much.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions? Okay. Thanks.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next Cynthia Stack. Okay. And I'm having a difficult time reading
this, so either -- Paul or Cara Mika -- Mika? It is Connor Street. Okay. Linda Lannon.
Lauren. And that's Scotfield Street. No? Okay. Irina Voyce.
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Voyce: Oh, cool. Right there. Perfect. You guys have a fancy setup here. Can you hear
me? Testing. Testing. Greetings, City Council Members and guests and law enforcement
as well. Thank you for this opportunity to provide me to share my --
Perreault: Ma'am? Mr. Mayor?
Simison: State your address, please.
Voyce: Oh. My address is 2922 North Centrepoint Way. This address is right down the
street from where Oasis is being built.
Simison: Thank you.
Voyce: I am very excited for this club to go into my neighborhood. This is going to be
awesome. We need a place to gather. This is a community space. We are going to have
weddings. We are going to have cheerleading camps. We are going to have a lounge.
Food. Like this is great. This is going to bring so much business, so much jobs. The
development plan is fantastic. I think with a few minor tweaks this traffic plan, like all
these things, could be eliminated. I literally -- my ring doorbell picks up like five cars a
day going past my house, like that's it. Like there is no traffic problem. This is a -- this is
something that can be fixed. In addition, I really don't appreciate the smear campaign
that's been done. I don't appreciate the website that was put up. I was deeply offended
by some of my neighbors. I personally am an electronic dance music DJ. I have put my
blood, my sweat, my tears and everything I have into my music and it just personally just
breaks my heart that some of my neighbors would treat my art like this. You know, I don't
do drugs. I am clearly not a druggie. I don't have a -- any kind of association with that,
other than I play music, I have fun, and people dance. You know, I just-- I don't appreciate
-- I don't appreciate -- I was actually kicked out of my -- I have been ghosted from the
neighborhood association, although I pay dues because of my opinions of Oasis
nightclub. Some of my neighbors have even accused me of stealing their science and
they have yelled at me while I have had been walking my dog. Yes, I have been harassed
for the type of music I play. Electronic dance music -- it is coming up in the world. Some
-- I mean Europe, big cities, everywhere and, you know what, most people actually aren't
on drugs. A lot of these people here they have never been to a festival. They have never
been to an EDM club. They don't know what it's like and it's just very frustrating to me.
You know, it's just -- I wish that people would look past stereotypes and just find love in
their hearts to accept everything. I love country music. I love bluegrass. You know, I
accept everything. I have even been to a Christian music concert. That was fun one
time. You know. And the last thing I want to say is if you don't like drinking, don't do it.
Don't like smoking, don't smoke cigarettes. Don't like nightclubs, don't go to them. But
don't take away my rights to express myself and my art. Any questions?
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Voyce: I will take them all.
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Simison: We are good. Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Brian Voyce. Good? Okay.
B.Voyce: My name is Brian Voyce. I'm at 2922 North Centrepoint Way, just like she is,
and I just want to make just a quick point about parking. I have been going to these
events basically for 15 years and not everyone shows up at 10:00 -- at 10:00 o'clock p.m.
Not everyone leaves at 2:00 o'clock a.m. Usually the -- the most compact -- or the most
busiest time during this process is usually between 11 :00 and 1:00 a.m. and most people
-- my friend -- I'm like -- my friends, but me included, we usually rideshare, get down there,
we usually have two or three people in the car and, then, rideshare back. We don't want
to risk getting DUls or risk the public safety of others and so that's kind of just the point I
want to make. A lot of people make, you know, conclusions of a certain genre of music
and try to tie it to some kind of drug culture, but in my opinion alcohol, with other genres,
is just as bad as alcohol with us or even drug use, if that. So, that's mostly what I want to
say. But the parking I don't think would be that big of an issue, considering the major, you
know, busiest times of the night, so --
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor? Brian, I'm just curious. For -- for these clubs and the music that
you like is -- are you attending them in the Boise -- in this area or other cities?
B.Voyce: Yeah. Yeah. I'm basically just referring to, you know, the -- the clubs I attend
in the city. I have rarely ever seen a police officer show up to any of these clubs. If they
do it's usually some outsider who came and just -- to try to rial things up, stuff like that.
The majority of the people that I hang around, which is a lot of people, which is the majority
of electric dance music scene, they don't want to cause trouble. They are not there to get
hammered and be belligerent and get drunk and just go and drive their car. That's not
what we are about. We are about just being safe, having fun, enjoying each other, like
minded individuals and, then, getting an Uber home. That's, essentially, what it is. We
are not there to, you know, have this drug culture that everyone thinks that --
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, follow up.
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Borton: Brian. And just -- based on your experience in taking --taking Uber and whatnot,
does it help from taking Uber, because parking is kind of limited in areas downtown, in
different places? How do you view that? I mean that's really kind of one of the main
things of this whole thing is is this the right location because of the parking area. So, I'm
just trying to get a sense for that and you have got some experience with that, so --
B.Voyce- Yeah. The main reason why I take Uber is just because I don't want to drive
drunk. That's the main reason. I don't do it because of the proximity of where the club is
or anything like that. I'm willing to pay whatever I need to in an Uber to get where ever I
need to, just so I know that I'm not going to get a DUI --
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Hoaglun: Okay.
B.Voyce: -- or anything like that and that's -- that's what the majority of the people who
attend these events think. You know, there -- of course are going to be, you know, some
people that do, but --
Hoaglun: That's not -- you are answering questions, so that doesn't count.
B.Voyce: Oh. Okay.
Johnson: Forgot to stop it. Sorry about that.
Hoaglun: You are good. But just to wrap up, I appreciate you taking Uber and being
mindful of that, so --
B.Voyce: Thank you.
Hoaglun: Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next Amanda Forest. Okay. Again, I'm -- difficulty reading, but Bill
Devorge? Please correct me on that when you come up.
Devrode: Mr. Mayor -- Mr. Mayor and Council, my name is Bill Devrode. I own two units
right here in Centrepoint. 2991. And my son owns a unit and friends of mine that stayed
here for a long time, they wanted to make a statement, but they -- they were getting
sleepy, so they left. Anyway, the reason we bought in Centrepoint, knowing that we are
adjacent to a commercial area and I'm a retired police officer and after I retired we got
into home renovations and I have built houses and the idea of city planning lately has
been where downtown cities are made walkable and so that's the reason we bought in
Centrepoint. It's walkable to everything. You go across the street and you have just about
anything, you know, entertainment. And so I support this project, The Oasis, as long as
all the facts have been figured out and, you know, checked and as an immigrant myself
30, 50 years ago, I know what sacrifices this young man is making where he -- he
mortgaged his house in order to save enough money and I think if he complies with all
the regulations that are put upon this, if he is within the parameters, I would say he -- he
deserves a chance -- a chance to fulfill his dreams, just like I did. My dad came here with
no money at all and I own a home in -- in Eagle, I own several units, and that's what we
came here for to become Americans and to live the American dream and if this guy
complied with all the regulations I would give him a chance. We have to support small
business, because that's where the jobs are created and so I urge you to consider the
facts and the -- the statements about a bunch of drunks and alcoholics and druggies, we
haven't seen that in Boise and the gentlemen cited all these statistics, which are fact
checked and they could be checked again and so if everything is according to your
regulations, I would say give him a shot. Thank you.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions? Thank you.
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Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we have Randy Black. Are you the same -- okay. Thank you.
Amanda Keetch.
Keetch: Mr. Mayor and Council Members, I'm Amanda Keetch. I reside at 4202 East
Tahiti Street. I come before you as a -- okay. I come before you as a very concerned
parent. I have teenage children. Some that have left home and I have many that are 18
and some getting ready to -- have a driver's license that are, you know, almost 16. We
give a midnight curfew to our older children and this is the primetime. We live not far. We
actually live by Kleiner Park and they are out and about doing many different things
throughout the night and they are frequently crossing Eagle and Ustick to be able to come
home. It gravely concerns me that my child could be hit by a drunk driver. We are asking
you, as the community, to help us protect our children, to protect our community, to help
us to keep that intersection safe. I can tell you from personal experience through going
to soccer practice multiple days to get from -- about a third of a mile through the -- that
intersection going from Ustick towards -- or, I'm sorry, from Cloverdale towards Ustick it
takes 30 minutes and there is no way that the amount of traffic that this facility would bring
in would be able to clear that intersection in a reasonable amount of time without causing
congestion. I have never been to a meeting like this before, but after seeing everything
that has gone on with this and knowing what the implications of what this would bring to
our community, I have sat through four hours of this meeting tonight to be able to talk to
you to give you from the bottom of my heart my concerns. It was mentioned earlier the
character of our community. This does not fit the character of the corner of Ustick and
Eagle Road. Kleiner Park came in, it is a very family oriented place, and even that has
brought homeless people walking through our neighborhood and some riffraff here and
there. This facility that is planning -- or trying to be built, unfortunately, is not -- I fear that
it is not the family oriented facility that they are trying to make it out to be and very easily
could turn into something that we all could regret down the road. The cost to this
community is stressed parents and could be loss of life. It could be the things that our
children are going to see and the repercussion of what that could bring into our community
through the things that they could be exposed to could be horrible. I thought it was
interesting that the company that wants to build here, they are -- they are trying to say
that we are like these other cities in one of their slides. Chicago. San Francisco. These
are -- these are not Meridian. I plead with you to, please, take our families into
consideration and to protect us and our community. That really is why people are moving
here. Not for the nightlife, but for Meridian itself.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions? Okay. Thank you. That -- that concludes
the people that signed up in advance to testify. If there is anybody in the audience who
would like to come forward and provide testimony you can --we will just let you determine
who is walking up. I'm not -- you know, amongst yourselves and anybody online that
would like to provide testimony, please, use the raise your hand function on Zoom and
we will also put you in the queue to provide testimony at the appropriate time. If you
would state your name and address for the record.
Deamcicis: My name is Roger Deamcicis. 3834 West Harbor Point, Meridian. I thought
I signed up online, so I thought it would be before now, so that's why I'm taking my first
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spot. So, I just wanted to clarify a couple things first before I kind of read what I want to
read, but the Knitting Factory that was mentioned is really a live music venue. It's not a
DJ centric venue. Also I just wonder myself if I committed a -- a million dollars into this
and if it was going sideways, would I really see clearly? It's just a question I have. If I --
if I would be able to do that and also on their website it says Idaho's only world class
nightclub. So, this is different than just your typical nightclub. It's Idaho's only world class
nightclub. So, to me Meridian is a family community. It's not a clubbing community. I do
like their venue when they talk about corporate events, weddings, trade shows and
photoshoots and I strongly encourage them to pursue that, but I fear that The Oasis, as
an electric dance music nightclub, doesn't reflect Meridian values. I don't -- I don't think
-- I would really encourage you to take a survey. If 51 percent of Meridian says I want a
nightclub, go for it. If 51 said, no, that's not Meridian, I would heartily encourage you to
consider that. There was a past example -- not related to this, but this kind of shows you
how there is clashing values. In 2012 there was a company that came to Meridian from
Seattle saying I want to build Bremerton Surgery -- Surgical Facility. They came to
Meridian, Zoning and Planning, said I want to build an outpatient surgery healthcare
services. They got approval. The building was completed in 2013. When the sign went
up it was Planned Parenthood. Now, Meridian is Idaho's only surgically approved abortion
facility for Planned Parenthood. So, what are we going to be known for for Meridian?
What's driving people here? So, I don't believe this reflects Meridian's values. We already
have bars. We already have restaurants. I don't want to be known as Idaho's, you know,
world class, you know, nightclub. I do like the fact that they want to do corporate events.
We need that. Wedding venue. We need that. Trade shows. I want to strongly
encourage that you permit that and reject the nightclub. Any questions?
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you.
Johnson: And, Roger, you had signed up on the public forum, but on this part you didn't
put you want to testify. So, sorry to make you wait. I did check.
Price: I also signed up. I was on the back of the sheet.
Johnson: No one on the back did a check, so I had no way to know.
Price: My name is Rosellen Villarreal Price. I live at 2700 North Wingate Lane, which is
probably not even a half a mile from this particular nightclub venue. Wingate Lane is a
unique lane in Meridian. We are a private lane. The houses there have acreage. I live
on approximately four -- five acres. My neighbor has four. I can say that because of the
development and everything that's been happening around us, our way of life has been
irrevocably and badly impacted. We have the private lane, but everyone treats it like their
own private greenbelt. I have a neighbor who had alpacas. Because of the bungalows
development the residents' fences are so close -- their back doors are so close to her
development -- I have got pictures of everything that I'm talking about. So, I can provide
photographic evidence. The people in the back of the house have started feeding her
alpacas and killed one, because they fed it the wrong thing. Alpacas are very delicate
animals. They ended up having to sell all of their alpacas, because the neighbor said we
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won't stop. I have horses. I have people come and try to feed the horses. My horses
can't handle sugar cubes and things like that. I have to run out there and tell them don't
do this. They treat me like I'm the enemy. They are not even supposed to be there. Right
now I have other neighbors that -- we worry about people walking down our lane. The
developer for Verado promised that he would keep all of the people out of our lane. He
built a fence that was immediately torn down. So, we have people coming in all the time.
We have to consider that Verado cannot go out. The bungalows cannot go out. What is
lost for us is permanent. Any decision that you make now cannot be reversed. Even if it
is a conditional use permit. I suggest that the traffic and the traffic patterns are going to
only cause problems on Ustick. Right now for me to get a horse trailer out onto the street
is very very difficult. I can't even imagine what it would be like if we have even more traffic
at all hours of the day and night because of the different events that are going to be held.
I am asking that you, please, deny this application, because it will impact us even further
and our lifestyles will be that much less. Thank you.
Simison: Council, any questions? Mr. Clerk, do we want to go to the person online with
their hand raised.
Johnson: I will get Mr. Jayne next, if that's okay.
Forest: Thanks, you guys. My name is Amanda Forest. I'm sorry I wasn't here earlier.
My kids had a thing and I had to get them home. So, now that that's all taken care of
really appreciate you guys giving me this opportunity to voice my opinion and my
perspective as a lived experience expert of sex trafficking.
Simison: Can you state your address for the record, please, and the Clerk will set the
time.
Forest: Yes. It's 2705 Rebecca Lane. So, I love all of the good things, like the venue
space. I love that weddings can take place there. Music events can take place there. I
think that one thing that we need to take into consideration whenever we are looking at
considering putting in a nightclub is that, unfortunately, there is an underbelly that comes
along with these things and so while some of the testimony that was given earlier was
saying that not every participant there is there to use drugs, get high, commit criminal
activity and that sort of thing and that's true, not everybody in those arenas are there for
that. I was trafficked for about six years through an EDM nightclub. We were forced to
go there when we weren't making our quotas and we were forced to recruit girls and bring
them in through there and usually these girls are high on things like Molly and Ecstasy,
which there is a little bit of a difference and so we need to know those things before we
make such a big decision to have a nightclub come into our community, because as it
was stated earlier, it's true, if there is not a law written to say that something is not okay
-- morally it may be wrong and we may all be able to see that there is a victim to an
unnamed crime, even though on a federal level there -- there are statutes of limitations
and there is law written. As far as Idaho legislation goes there is not very much on the
books. So, it's important for us to keep these things in mind when we are making these
kinds of decisions, because it does affect our community. Currently we border six different
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states and most of those states I think -- I think even Montana is working on things as far
as legislation goes, where they are protecting the victims of these crimes that are often,
as I mentioned, brought through these kinds of vicinities and it's not only these vicinities,
so I don't want to set a prejudice or bias there, but it is a part of the whole picture and we
don't have very much legislation. So, we have actually become a hub for this kind of
crime, because the bad guys can't get in trouble like they can in the surrounding cities --
or, excuse me, states, because their legislation is much harsher for buyers, as well as
traffickers, and so we need to keep these kinds of things in mind, not to say that this --
this young man's career goal, like what his vision is -- not to say that there aren't some
good things in there, but we have to be prepared to handle the stuff that comes along with
those things. If we are not prepared we are setting our community up for an influx of
criminal activity, an influx of victims, which we are not prepared to respond to, and our law
enforcement, which I have the utmost respect and admiration for, just isn't equipped to
respond to these situations, to identify these situations and respond adequately. So, we
are creating a cesspool of misfortune and it is preventable and so I just think that that
should be kept in mind, because I know that at the heart of everybody who is sitting on
this board, everybody getting -- everybody, excuse me, got into this arena to help the
community do better, to protect our citizens and to have a flourishing thriving community
and so that information needs to be presented, because my experience was horrific and
I wouldn't wish that on anybody and so if there is an arena that we need to have that
education brought to, so that we can be well equipped, then, I want to bring that voice to
it, because I don't believe that anybody would ever want someone to experience what I
went through and what I still have to deal with and I have been out of the life for ten years.
Thank you so much for your time.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions? Thank you for sharing.
Forest: Have a good night.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Reggie Jayne and you are unmuted.
Jayne: Hello. I live at 4117 North Heritage Woods in Meridian. I'm not particularly a fan
of EDM music, but I do like going out and having fun. I just want to share a few thoughts
based on the testimony over the last four hours. I think Mr. Tsai opened up the business
and other -- his opening up the business to other events like swing and country dancing
or events by the Humane Society, is awesome and would do a lot for our community. He
seems to have done his due diligence and I'm so very impressed with the care and the
work that he has put into this project. He seems to have really thoughtful answers to
everything and I'm just super impressed. I live about 1.5 miles away. I would absolutely
ride my bike, walk, or Uber if I were going to this club and I think I would go to this club.
You know, I have got five children. I have heard a lot of parents they talk about safety of
their children. Rest assured, members of our City Council, I promise you I won't put them
near The Oasis at last call, but I will take them when there are open family events. I will
bring them with me. I'm going to enjoy it and I look forward to it. You know, a venue in
Meridian is not the same as you -- in a much more negative place. A place like maybe
-- well, I don't want to label another place, but an inner city district that is already rife with
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crime. What happens there won't necessarily happen here. What does offend me here,
though, is the clear smear campaign led by some privileged members of our community.
I'm very upset that signs have appeared on private property and that stickers have been
taped to my door. I urge the City Council to look into this and take action as appropriate
as they should not be infringing on my property. I urge you to support this emerging
community leader in his efforts. That's all I have got for you. Thank you so much.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Bernt: Thanks, Reggie.
Simison: Okay. Is there anybody else that would like to provide --just come on up.
Belue: My name is Paul Belue. I live at 2228 North Zircon Avenue, Meridian, Idaho.
83646. 1 want to thank the Mayor and the Councilman -- Council people for taking the
time to listen to my comments. When I first became aware of this nightclub, an experience
came to my mind. I was accompanying some students -- I work for the College of Western
Idaho. I was accompanying some students to a conference in Salem, Oregon, and we
spent the night at a hotel and one of the things I noticed when I was there in Salem,
Oregon, was a lot of homelessness, a lot of litter. Definitely not the kind of neighborhood
I would want to live into and I realized how nice Meridian is compared to -- to Salem,
Oregon. And I wondered -- I started wondering why it was that way. One thing I noticed
was there were -- I don't know if there were nightclubs. I know there were strip clubs, but
those were the kinds of facilities that were in that area and I -- and I -- and so when I
became aware of this I was -- I became concerned about the impact that this nightclub
could have. I don't want Meridian to turn in to Salem, Oregon, because that is not the
kind of neighborhood I would like to live in. After the -- after this experience also it turns
out that one of my students that were staying there witnessed two of the other students
involved in a marijuana drug deal and as the advisor I had to work through that whole
thing and it was quite difficult and time consuming and so quite a bad experience and I
-- and I can't say that was the main reason, but I do know that nightclubs were in that area
and possibly impact it. So, my concern with this is, of course, the possible degrading or
lowering the level of quality of life in Meridian because of the nightclub and -- and also
the possible impact it could have on my daughter Tosia and our family. That's my main
concern, like the person from the -- the College of Medicine. I do believe that we should
do some due diligence and research on -- on these nightclubs. What are -- what are the
-- and make sure we look at studies that are quality studies that really do measure the
impact of nightclubs on a neighborhood and get to the facts and the truth and make sure
those -- those research studies are sound research studies and -- and -- and have done
a sound research on some of these issues and get to the truth about the impact that these
kinds of facilities can have on a community and that's all I have to say. Thank you.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Johnson: And, Mr. Mayor, we have an online person after our speaker here.
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Sur: Hello. My name is Aniket Sur and I live 3518 North Chatterton Way, Boise, Idaho.
But it borders like Eagle and Ustick. So, the nightclub is going to be by Kohl's. So, as an
avid party animal -- and I go downtown Boise like every week. I party hard. World class
nightclubs. I go to Vegas. So many times I have been to world class nightclubs. Pakistan.
Awesome stuff. But what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Okay. You don't bring that
stuff back here. Okay. And if you do put it like more towards Boise. Boise downtown that
has like the infrastructure. It has the parking spaces. All right? My worry is -- if this was
like a bar -- if this was a bar or a nice Hawaiian restaurant -- I wear Hawaiian shirts. You
know, I love all this Tiki stuff. It's great. That would be awesome. But putting a EDM
concert house when you have people like Calvin Harris are awesome, like EDM people
come. I have been to EDM festivals. It's awesome. But I'm worried about the parking,
because once the parking is filled what are you going to do? You are going to park in the
neighborhood and just walk, man. I can park in front of my house and just walk there.
So, other people are going to do that, too. I mean if you have been to BSU games or like
fairs and stuff, when there is overflow, the traffic is crazy and now imagine that every
weekend, Friday and Saturday. Eagle is already pretty congested at Eagle Road and
now, you know, people are parking their cars in neighborhoods, going to the concerts,
coming back and I already see so much shady stuff on my ring camera. Now there is
people going to be like throwing up next to my car. They are going to be walking drunk
and doing crazy stuff. I don't want to deal with that. And then -- oh. And another thing -
- so going downtown -- downtown Boise, what happens is there is a huge police presence
there. Okay? They are there ready to break up fights, you know, once the bars and
nightclubs close in downtown Boise, people are out on the street, you know, and even
people who can't get into those clubs, like they are not 21 or whatever, they are outside
just driving aggressively or just chilling there. I'm afraid this area of people who aren't
going to be in the club are going to chill in the parking lot. Be out there. High school
students, people who are under age, will still kind of go there to hang out in the parking
lot or just chill there, you know, like -- I don't want that near my -- near my hood. All right?
So, that's why I oppose it and, you know, the houses were built here first, you know, and
if you told me that there was going to be a nightclub there I wouldn't have bought a house
here. Okay. That's -- that's not cool. I mean I don't want to get all conspiracy theory like,
but if you want to lower the house prices, this would be the best way to do it with all the
-- with all the stuff that it brings in and, then, you know, you have some other alternative
motive to just buy all the houses and everything. I don't know. But I'm just saying -- and
no need to play the race card. I'm an Asian minority. I'm pretty successful. No one was
racist to me. So, that's not why we are opposing it. Please oppose it. I hope you guys
oppose it. If not, I mean -- I don't even pay attention to City Council meetings and you
guys seem like cool people, but three of you are up for like reelection or whatever in
January, so we are not going to forget your names. So thank you.
Simison: Council, any questions?
Bernt: Nope.
Simison: Okay. Thank you.
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Johnson: Mr. Mayor, we have online Terry Silsby.
Silsby: Hello. Can you hear me?
Johnson: I can see you are talking, but we cannot hear. Give me one moment here. Can
you try again?
Silsby: Can you hear me now?
Johnson: Much better. Thank you.
Silsby: All right. Hi. My name is Terry Silsby. I -- my address is 104 East Fairview,
Meridian. 83642. 1 did help Brian with his lease on his contract for this property. We did
spend a lot of time looking at a lot of different locations. This is the ideal property for his
business. It's also the ideal business for the traffic count in that area. It's below -- it -- the
-- the peak traffic time for this business is after the peak traffic time for the rest of the area
and so the load on the traffic is a lot less then -- than you would assume and at the same
time on another point, as fast as I can here, we are a community of laws and rules and
regulations. Brian has met and exceeded every single point that he is able to do. He has
committed everything he has got to this. There is no going back for him and he did it
knowing he would meet all of these requirements. Now, regarding other businesses of
similar types -- you have got the Buffalo Club. There are residences much closer to the
Buffalo Club. They are not experiencing the kind of problems everybody's fear mongering
about. The Cowgirls Club in Kuna. Not experiencing all these problems these people
are fear mongering about. The property values, I am an associate real estate broker.
deal in residential and commercial. Those properties have not suffered in prices and
values. In fact, they have gone up. So, another point. In the event that you look at the
process and what Brian has been put through, he has been put through -- I would say to
me he has been treated differently than all the other businesses of similar -- both
restaurants with alcohol, other businesses that have alcohol and not restaurants -- that
have been approved and that are closer to residences than his. There is a sports bar
that's going to be closer to the residences than his. In the same complex. Okay. So,
haven't heard anything about those properties or any complaints on there. So, to me
Brian has met every single one of the requirements. He can write his success -- he can
rise or fall on his own merits. All of the activities inside that business are going to be
monitored by him and everything outside that business, if there is any activities that are
illegal or misdemeanor, law enforcement will handle and they are not going to be bring
any -- in any --
Simison: Mr. Silsby?
Silsby: Yes.
Simison: The timer went off, just so you are aware. If you can please wrap up.
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Silsby: Thank you. His business is not going to be bringing or increasing any greater
difficulties in the community than any of the other businesses of similar type and he is a
benefit to our community. One of the finest young men that I have ever known and we
are lucky to have him. Thank you very much. Any questions?
Simison: Council, any questions?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Terry, thank you for your testimony. This is Councilman Hoaglun and you
mentioned the Buffalo Club. I don't know if you know the answer to this question, but,
you know, they are -- they are in a strip mall that is a quarter mile in length. Do you know
if there are any restrictions on cross-parking agreements for them?
Silsby: I don't. But I'm really glad you brought up that point, because I got involved in the
country swing and swing dance community. For over three and a half years I have
attended there myself personally, twice a week minimum for long periods of time. Then I
would meet with other swing dance members of a group that I'm a member of-- in a home
here in Meridian to practice and the majority of those people would bring their children to
come practice with us. These are family members and members of our community, the
type of people you want to have come over to your house for a barbecue. They are
wonderful people. Regarding the Buffalo Club, I don't see more than 60 to 90 cars there.
Very frequently on -- on a given night sometimes there is as many as a hundred. I don't
know if there is more than that. As far as cross-parking, I don't know that they need it.
But I'm going to guess that there is not much of a concern about that, because the majority
of the businesses are closed at that time. As far as residences, they are right behind and
right beside that business.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Simison: Council, any other questions?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thank you, Mr. Silsby. I don't know if you were part of the discussions when the
Wadsworth Subdivision originally came before us, but one comment -- and I was just
curious as someone who has been part of the process, maybe you will have some insight.
I guess it's the applicant's right and the developer's right to get a CUP after the original
development was approved, but I have to say I'm pretty surprised that the developer of
the Wadsworth application would not have, you know, disclosed this possible conditional
use when they came before us and taken that opportunity. I was just wondering if you
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were part of those discussions, because to me a big part of what the applicant's been
through is a result of that -- that strategy or approach.
Silsby: Right. And I appreciate you bringing that up. My memory is that another
development company had the project prior to Wadsworth. Wadsworth took it over. There
were some discussions with both parties at the time, but it was primarily through their
representative, their realtor. The -- the -- the uses and land uses were recognized that
would show that it did fit the use there and that that's -- this business was something that
they would consider having as a tenant. So, we didn't know of any other restrictions other
than that.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: Thanks. Yeah. It sounds like maybe a miscommunication or just -- again, it's
your -- it's -- it's the applicant's legal right to come and request a CUP later, but certainly
there -- as you all can see now, there are different standards specific for nightclubs as a
use and there is a reason for that. So, I appreciate your insight as someone who was
involved in the process.
Silsby: Sure. But isn't it true that if-- if it was simply a bar that it might be treated differently
in the fact that there was a music venue that that added to the complexity?
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Strader.
Strader: I'm not testifying as to -- as to what it is. I can give you my opinion as a Council
person, just as one person up here, but I don't think that a bar or a restaurant is the same
thing as a nightclub. I don't view those as the same use. This is a unique use and this
decision, no matter what way it goes, should be tailored toward that use. Thank you.
Silsby: Thank you.
Strader: Thanks, Mr. Mayor. That's the extent of my questions.
Simison: Council, any further questions? Okay. Thank you. There was one other person,
someone over here has been looking -- come on up, ma'am. You have been standing up
for awhile. We will give you an opportunity to sit back down.
Johnson: It looks like we have two in the room and, then, three online, just to give
everybody warning.
Hudson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. I'm Tera Hudson. I live at 2722 East Omera
Court. I'm in the Champion Park Subdivision. I put on my running shoes and I can get to
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this lot in about one minute and 45 seconds on a good day. It's very close to residential
as you have heard. I just want to point out it -- from business to business I also am
representative of plenty of buyers in both the commercial, residential, and land sector. I
recently just over this weekend have had buyers in the neighborhood that have not put in
offers in an advanced state because of this nightclub. I have also had people in the past
before this proposal to purchase in all surrounding subdivisions and in and around within
a mile of The Oasis. No hurt for what his project is. We love development. We love
seeing the arts. We love seeing music. I love to dance as well. This is not about a
restaurant. This is not about potential art center. I also am a mother of a cheerleader
and I could see this as a fundraising event, but this is not the intent of the use of this
property. We are not -- we are supportive of restaurants and venues that are going in
there, like a Jamba Juice or the Wienerschnitzel or what have you, but a nightclub -- the
music itself is a noise nuisance and I want to refer to Ordinance 5.01.02 with the
reinforcement of neighborhood character and sustainability. I have lived in there since
Champion Park has started in phase two. There is no way that this sustains my
neighborhood or any of the other ones around and I would have you listen and answer to
that in making that decision, along with the other points to ordinances as we have spoke
about all night. Thank you. Any questions?
Simison: Council, any questions? All right. Thank you.
Metzger: Mayor and City Council, my name is David Metzger. I live at 3626 Justin
Avenue. The place belongs to my girlfriend. She actually is in California. So, I'm here.
We have -- they had Barrel 55, Pinnacle, and all these places that were restaurants and
bars. Where are they now? Those buildings are empty and now we want to put in
something else across the street. Why? Can I ask a question? You all came here tonight.
How many of you rode together? I bet none of you. So, how many people are going to
go to a club together? One? Two? So, I have worked -- I have worked -- sure. I have
worked in restaurants and I have worked in hotels. These events -- I mean -- and I told
-- I told Mr. Tsai on the way out that his 20 person staff I think is -- is a really low number.
I do believe that that's going to be much higher and if people drive there where are they
going to park? They are going to have to park in one of those 117 places that is for the
people to park and you are only going to -- you know, if you have 50 people you can only
have 350 inside at a time. So, how are we keeping track of the employees? Are they
going to go through the front door? I mean it's just -- it's a great -- it might be a great idea
on the outside, but I really think that the parking and the traffic is a bad fit for that area.
There is a much -- there is much better properties around the corner or a little further
down the street, but there is -- there is no need for right there. That -- that corner is way
too busy. I won't even walk across the street. I can barely get across the street in my
truck most days. So, I have to sometimes go opposite of where I really need to go, just
to come back and -- and make a circle. So, that -- that would be where I'm at. It's just --
I think the traffic and the failures already that are there -- I mean D'Alessandros left. You
know, we have got -- there is -- there is other things that could be going in and -- and
maybe do something better.
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you.
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Johnson: Mr. Mayor, Malissa Bernard. And, Malissa, you can unmute yourself.
Bernard: Can you hear me all okay?
Simison: Yes.
Bernard: All right. I'm Malissa Barnard. I live at 4025 North Dashwood Place in Meridian.
83646. I'm going to defer to the DA agreement and the conceptual plan for Wadsworth.
You were shown in 2019 and, again, as recently as near Christmas, December 22nd,
2020, a conceptual plan before you for this complex that shows shops. It doesn't show
restaurants, it doesn't show bars, specifically on that pad alone you were shown shops
and this kind of came into question on other application where recently you have had The
Village come before you about a credit union deviating from a conceptual plan and how
that needed an MDA. Was there an MDA that's come before -- since before The Oasis
came forward? Also you were shown conceptual elevations. None of the buildings were
taller than 23 feet, with a 26 foot high detail and now you are getting shops that have
grown by four feet. So, if your DA says number three for this development and this was
carried from 2019 to the new owner, future development of this site shall substantially
comply with the conceptual development plan and provisions contained therein. So, how
do we morph from shops to a nightclub? I mean this isn't going to raise any alarm with
any of the citizens when they are watching your proceedings, yet they show up. They
see shops in the application. They see shops on the video. How did this morph into The
Oasis? That's a really big question and so if there was such a big deal at Linder Village
over this conceptual plan and holding people to the DA, how come this one isn't coming
under scrutiny? I mean all these people they could have checked the plans. They could
have checked everything online when the Wadsworth application came before you and
they see shops. There is no sense for alarm. And, then, they -- you know, they signed a
least November 28th, 2020, and here it is December 22nd before you and in the staff
report it says end users are unknown. So, I'm a little concerned -- and if that's the end of
my testimony I think I have said it, so thank you. I appreciate your time tonight.
Simison: Thank you, Malissa. Council, any questions? Thank you.
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next is Audrey Dalley online. Audrey, you should be able to unmute.
Dalley: Good evening. I appreciate you taking so much time to discuss or hear testimony
on this matter. My name is Audrey Dalley. My address is 3632 North Colbourne Way and
I had no intention of testifying this evening. However, after listening to the -- the
gentleman who wants to build this nightclub, I believe that he answered questions
thoroughly. I didn't detect any deception what he was saying. Initially I was not in favor
of this establishment. However, it appears to me that he meets all the -- the regulations
and city code for parking, which was my main concern, but the thing that prompted me to
-- to testify is the fact that everyone who is against this establishment appears to believe
that this EDM -- is that correct? Is going to be that kind of music all the time and it's going
to draw people who are seedy, so to speak, and from the gentleman's testimony, who is
proposing this establishment, that is not what he has in mind at all. He mentioned country
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music, bluegrass, Hispanic groups that would come in. So, I think that there has been --
that a lot of us have been misled by this EMD or EDM or whatever it is and I don't think
that's accurate at all. I think that there is also some misunderstanding that the people
who -- who go to a nightclub go there to become incredibly intoxicated, so they can leave
and behave poorly and I don't believe that is true either. Obviously, some people do that.
Excuse me. but that's not the majority and that's all I have to say.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Johnson: Mr. Mayor, next we have Courtney McBride and, Courtney, you can unmute.
McBride: Can you hear me?
Simison: Yes, we can.
McBride: Okay. So, my name is Courtney McBride and I live at 980 West Parkstone
Street, Meridian, Idaho. 83646. It's an apartment complex just off of Ustick down the
road and I actually was a part of the Mayor's Youth Advisory Council for about three out
of my four years of high school and I was actually part of the exec council as well and one
of the meetings that we had someone who worked from the city, I don't remember exactly
who, they came to talk to us, because there is a problem in the city with once people are
done with high school they leave and they wanted to know what they -- like what the city
could do to keep people here, but also once kids are done at college and they finally start
their families like bringing them back to Meridian, but also what they can do to keep them
here and I think a big issue is that there is not a lot of things for young adults to do. There
is a hosted by the city that are for family orientated things and a lot of people in their early
20s -- yes, people in their early 20s do have kids, but like, for example, I just graduated
high school, I'm only 18 years old and I don't plan on having kids for a while. I would love
-- I plan on staying in Meridian for probably ever, but -- because I love it here and it's a
great city to live in and I just feel like there is such a negative connotation around a
nightclub and I -- for example, it was quoted like that it would increase the risk of drunk
drivers, but people are going -- like there is plenty of bars in Meridian. People -- if they
are going to drive drunk they are going to drive drunk and, unfortunately, that's just the
way it is and we can do everything we can to prevent it, but I don't think a nightclub is
going to increase anything. It's just providing -- and it's not even just a nightclub, like he
stated -- and I don't think he was being deceptive. He was stating, oh, there is going to
be all these events and other things and it's not just going to be a nightclub and so I think
it would be a -- if he meets all the requirements for it I think he should have a chance to
prove that it's not going to be a problem and that it's not going to be this big nuisance and
also just, for example, I drive for Door Dash, so I am driving Eagle Road all the time,
because there is a ton of restaurants on there and so I pick up restaurants all the time
and most of those restaurants don't have enough parking. So, yes, parking is a big issue
and so I totally get that, but also the Ustick and Eagle intersection is one of the easiest
intersections on Eagle to get through. I have maybe sat at that light for maybe two times
in a row, but other lights I have sat at for five cycles, because they are terrible to get
through. But the Eagle and Ustick one there is not a really big traffic problem, except for
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maybe during rush hour, but there is a traffic problem everywhere during rush hour, so I
don't really think it makes a big difference. But I think that the nightclub is a good idea
and I think that there is just a lot of false information being spread about it.
Simison: Thank you, Courtney. Council, any questions? Okay. No questions. It's good
to hear from you, Courtney. Is there anybody else that would like to provide testimony?
And if there is anybody online and you would like to provide testimony, please, use the
raise your hand feature on Zoom.
Beers: Hi. My name is Adam Beers. I'm at 267 East Havasu Falls Street in Meridian.
I'm not really going to touch on any of the morality issues. That's been hit pretty hard. I
did want to -- Mr. Nary over here, one of the things was like, you know, what are our
concerns with the usage and whatnot. I think I would pay the price of admission to see a
hundred cars exit this spot and go out through that light in one cycle and I'm sure other
people would as well and that's a big concern. Like the traffic is crazy everywhere. I live
close to a major intersection and from 3:00 o'clock to 7:00 o'clock it's backed up at least
a half a mile. So, I think that that is a big concern about the traffic adding to it and, then,
also, you know, whether or not they use only a hundred spaces if you say -- there is only
a hundred spaces and if you say -- like most people will go by themselves, they are going
to be coming out of a drinking establishment that that's the whole purpose of is going to
drink and the police aren't going to be there giving everybody breathalyzer tests, right, to
keep them off the road and I know that some people will do rideshare and whatnot, but
there are going to be people doing that, which is another concern; right? Having those
people out on the roads. And, then, I think the -- one other quick thing, the mezzanine
trick, it seems a little tricky, since it's not counted towards floor space, it's counted as
something different, but if I was there on the mezzanine and I didn't get the front row seat
to the venue and I was in the back, I'm pretty sure there is no way I'm going to be seeing
down a mezzanine to the show that's going on, but that's kind of what I was -- just all I
wanted to say. I think there is major concerns about the traffic and the parking and it's
not really fair to those other businesses that potentially are going to go in that they have
to deal with that as well in the future.
Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions? Is there anybody else that would like to
provide testimony -- come on up.
Vrba: Hello, Honorable Mayor and City Council here. My name is Jeff Vrba. I live 3005
North LeBlanc Way in Meridian, Idaho. 83646. And I'm the vice-president of the
homeowners association and I'm here to speak on their behalf right now, some of our
concerns that we have with that. Our subdivision has 40 single family homes in it. It's
kind of divided a little bit, 75 percent are against it, there are 25 that's for it. You can hear
-- they had some over here that was really strongly for the individuals and some that were
against it from our subdivision. The main things I'm really concerned with is the applicant
himself and his trustworthiness of what he's telling you guys. Back in November he sent
out a letter and -- to all the homeowners out in the area to have a meeting with him at the
Smoky Mountain Pizza here in Meridian. We went there, he gave us a spiel of what he
was looking at for the facility. At that time he told us he wanted a thousand people in
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there. It was going to be a restaurant and he was -- we asked about security. He said
he's going to have 30 -- 30 people on his staff and about five to six security that are going
to be -- their jobs are going to be outside walking around patrolling around their facility at
that time. We questioned a little bit more on his restaurant that he's having there. If I
wanted to go into the restaurant how do I get in? Do I need to pay the cover charge and,
then, go to the restaurant and he goes, well, it's not really a restaurant per se. We are
going to serve food that may be themed for what we are doing in our nightclub that night.
So, if we got a beach theme we are going to be going Mexican tacos, little street tacos, a
little bit this. But it's with an award winning chef. So, that was what his idea was. It wasn't
going to be a restaurant that we all think about going to a restaurant, sitting down with
your family to eat, it is finger foods, bar foods, whatever you want to call it, snacks, while
you are there. So, you are not getting a full meal, you are not getting that. So, right away
to me that was a farce when he's saying it's restaurant and it's not. Today he was saying
he's looking at maybe 15 to 20 people in there and part of that was security, too, outside.
My concern is that he's not making the money that he was suggested of making money.
Who is the first one he is going to cut? The security guards outside, because you got to
keep the people at the front door you got to keep your bartenders there, you got to keep
the people making the little snacks for the people, you got to keep a few inside. So, the
security is going to be -- and he was saying today that the security was there to make
sure that the people, if there were too many coming in, that they would direct the Ubers
to the right spots, they would direct the people out, they would direct them this way.
have the feeling they are going to be the first ones cut and as the multi-purpose facility or
venue that he was talking about and offering it to all these other nonprofit organizations
around Meridian, that is great. We are all for that. I know Villa Sport, they said that they
do the same thing with some of the stuff they are going to be doing, too. But when you
have a cheer competition you are going to have a lot of people going to that competition
to see it. It reaches 400. But he's not going to have three to one ratio to cars, four to one
ratio. Uber people coming in. You are going to have parents driving their daughters,
driving their sons to the competitions and items like that. We are going to have a lot more
than 125 cars. Where are they going to be parking? They are going to park down along
Cajun. They are going to park down along the Piccard. They are going to park in our
subdivision along LeBlanc, Centrepoint, and stuff like that and that's what we are fighting
more against. We do not need the extra parking in there. We have enough issues with
the cars being parked out all on both Piccard Street and along La Blanc Way there right
now. That was --that's some of the main concerns that we have. I know it's been brought
up that it's a drinking establishment, people are against it and stuff. There is other areas
around, but the other facilities that are in the area, the drinking area there, are food
establishments that serve alcohol. It's not an alcohol establishment that might serve food
if somebody wants it. So, that's where we are concerned with a little bit that way. Another
thing is with them trying to leave their facility, they got to go out onto Ustick Road, take a
right. If the people want to go down -- heading into Eagle Road, they are going to have
to cut across four of those traffic lanes there to get in the turn lane. The turn lane maybe
from where their facility is at is only five cars long. So, they are going to get a backup
going back. If you got a lot of people that want to turn down, go down to State Street or
whatever to get back home. If they want to head into Meridian they are going to come
back to Center -- Cajun, cut across through the little bumps that are there on Piccard to
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go up Centrepoint. If the east-west drive through is not set up, I recommend not allowing
them to get the conditional use permit at this time, because you are running all that --that
extra traffic through the subdivision. They can go out onto Eagle Road through the
roundabout there on Cajun and go out to Eagle Road, but the problem with that is it's only
a right turn only. So, if they need to head north on Eagle how are they going to do it?
They are going to come down someplace, try to make a U-turn to come back, cut across
the barrier that's there or something else. That's where my main concern is -- our concern
is trying to get the people out of there and moving in the directions where they need to be
moving to get to their homes and, basically, trustworthiness of the individual that's there,
because every time he turns around he is telling everybody what he wants -- he told us it
was going to be a thousand people coming in there. The bands he was bringing in from
-- traveling down. The other thing with extra 20 employees there, that's taking up 20
parking spots in his facility there. Now, if he has a band in, if it's a local band they might
have two to three more cars in there. So, now you are 23 cars that might be just for the
staff and not a single patron coming into the building yet. Where are they going to park?
If he brings them up from -- catch them coming up from Salt Lake City going up to
Portland, like he said, they are going to be in a -- like a mini van or mini tour bus or
something like that, where are they parking at? He has not ever -- I brought that up in
previous meetings. He has never decided where they are going to be parking at. My
concern is they are going to be parking in that subdivision that's right behind them, taking
up residence parking spots and that's where our main concern is. So, basically, that's it
for my portion on -- for the homeowners association. Just my personal one. I do not like
the facility going in there and my recommendation would be because of parking and items
like that, he is not meeting his requirements that he is suppose to have for that building
there and I have been to every single meeting that you guys had setting up previous to
this, what was going to be going into that facility, what was being marketed for that facility,
everything sounded good until all of a sudden in January -- oh, guess what we are putting
in here. Surprise. And I don't -- I didn't like that feeling there. If we have planning and
zoning setup -- area set up to design what we are planning on putting in these empty lots,
we need to try to keep it to those types of buildings -- these type of establishments and
that to keep people are moving into the homes nearby wanting to move into these homes
with an empty lot sitting next to them and, once again, on the Buffalo Club, everybody
keeps mentioning that club. When you are leaving there you are not driving through a
subdivision to get out, you are going right out on a major road. That's the difference. If
they got to go out head west on Ustick, they got to come through our subdivision. They
got to come through the other subdivision that's over there with the apartment complexes.
Thank you for your time.
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you. Is there anybody that would like to provide
testimony on this item? And if you are online, please, use the raise your hand function.
Freidenberger: Hi. My name is Kimberly Freidenberger. I'm at 13242 West Passage
Court, Boise. I just live right -- kind of down the road from where the establishment is
going to be built or planning to be built. I wasn't planning on talking tonight. So, I hope
my thoughts are not too scattered. This isn't the perfect place for this type of venue. I
have teenage drivers that are coming down Eagle Road, 11:00 o'clock, 12:00 o'clock at
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night, whether they are out with friends or they are out to dance or whether they are
coming home from work. The gentleman here that had left had mentioned he got -- he
gets an Uber, because he knows he is going to go to the venue or go to the EDM clubs
to get drunk and so someone had mentioned before that that's kind of the goal is to go
and drink. It's a social thing. So, alcohol is a problem and the other gentleman who was
the real estate agent who said that he thought it was the perfect location and cited Buffalo
whatever and Cowgirls. That there is no problem. My next door neighbor was the county
sheriff -- Kuna county sheriff. I heard about all of the problems at Cowgirls all the time.
So, there are problems there. I don't know what world he was living in, but there are
problems at the Cowgirl Kuna place. As well as the mission statement on the website
says a nightclub. So, this is a nightclub. It's not a wedding venue. It's not a -- it's being
tweaked to try to fit his -- to just get it built. I don't know. He is trying -- is it a nightclub?
Is it a wedding venue? Is it a cheer place? It's a nightclub. That's what it says. I had
two daughters who cheered for cheer competitions. Believe me, there are way over on
hundred cars at a cheer competition. So, that doesn't pass the scratch and sniff test
either. To the community who passed out the flyers and put signs in their yard, thank you.
Thank you for letting me know what was happening, because you know what, I'm busy,
work, I have three kids. I didn't know. And so I appreciate you guys taking the effort to
let us know what's going on in our neighborhood and that's what's happening, we are
living in a bigger city, there is a lot of burn and churn, people are coming and going, thank
you for taking the time to make it known for the rest of us and that's -- that's pretty much
all I have. Thank you.
Simison: Council, any questions? Is there anybody else that would like to provide
testimony? If you think you want to provide testimony, if you can come up to the front
row, so I don't have to keep asking. It would also help us try to figure out how we are
going to finish this evening and what time is appropriate. So, we are just trying to get a
good gauge on people.
Hatch: Well, good evening, Honorable Mayor and City Council. I also wasn't planning on
talking tonight and certainly hesitant, so wasn't --
Simison: Name and address for the record, please.
Hatch: Yeah. Oh. Sorry. My name is Rhead Hatch. I live at 1020 East Redwall Court
in Meridian. So, I think I was going to make some of the similar comments. I think if
had just listened to the testimony or the presentation from the applicant tonight I would
have the impression that this is just like a community event center, we are going to do lots
of fun things here. If you look at their website and the About Us, the -- the emphasis is
the nightclub. It's going to be how loud it's going to be. It's going to be how much lights
there is going to be. Dancing. That is his emphasis on the website for how he is trying
to present himself there. I think part of my concern is there is a number of these things,
whether it's the parking or the occupancy limit, there are a number of these things where
it's kind of like we have got some estimates, we think this is going to be okay. He is
voluntarily going to say my occupancy is going to stay lower than the fire code would
allow. He doesn't have any constraints on that and it's kind of we are trusting him or
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expecting people to report on that. These also -- I appreciate the sacrifice that he's put
into this. That also means he is going to have a strong incentive to not necessarily follow
some of those voluntary agreements and concern that his incentives are not aligned to
keeping those voluntary agreements. And, then, I will just echo -- I lived probably half a
mile or a mile from Cowgirls in Kuna and Kuna has I think three or four bars out there and
had at least one altercation happen in front of my house and the police officer said this is
not an uncommon thing, because they have those establishments where there is a lot of
drinking. So, I think that's all I had to share. So, questions?
Simison: Council, any questions? Thank you very much. Seeing that no one came up
to the front row, I'm going to assume that we have heard from all the public in the room
that would like to provide testimony. So, based upon the information we have before us,
Council, we would have 15 minutes from both the applicant, the appellant, followed by
deliberation. What I would maybe propose is an eight minute break, unless Council would
rather just keep going or if Council would rather put a stop this evening and come back
at a later point in time. So, I'm just kind of throwing that out if -- where people feel like
they are. If they are of sound mind this evening to continue or not, so --
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I have had two Diet Cokes so far. I'm going to get another one and I will defer
to the rest of Council, but I'm going to be ready to make a decision tonight if we want to
grind through this. That's just me.
Bernt: Do it.
Simison: You got that from the Council President Bernt as well.
Hoaglun: I'm good with continuing, Mr. Mayor.
Simison: Did you want to take an eight minute break or you just want to keep going?
Bernt: Whatever.
Simison: We will keep going then. So, let's keep on going. All right. So, with that, the
-- so, you are recognized for up to 15 minutes.
Tsai: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and the Council, for your patience. I know this has been a
long time. The biggest difference I noticed about our overwhelming number of supporters
versus the opposition is their reasoning. But as you know with your experience here on
the Council it's the supporters that very rarely promote their voice. It's this time around
that I didn't ask anybody to write their letters or otherwise because of this reason. But the
people here have been pent up with COVID restrictions for over a year now and they just
want a place to let their hair down, to dance, socialize again. The letters of both the city
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and I received were from people who had unique stories for why music was important to
them. They talked about the time that they lost a family member and it was this song that
pulled them out of a dark place. They talked about the time that they got engaged and
realize another song was playing on the radio at the time. They talked about the time
they were in a grocery store and randomly bumped into the person and that person turned
out to be the person they married and that song was playing inside the speakers inside
the store. Every single one of their stories were unique. They support our project
because they wanted to and not because somebody told them to copy and paste an e-
mail. While someone --while some opposed to our project have raised very real concerns
that have potential to impact the community, these are things like drunk driving or traffic,
you can see with our comprehensive analysis in the narrative and we have presented
here today that we have worked diligently to ensure none of these concerns have an
impact to the families of Meridian when compared to the massive benefit in both
economics and overall need that the community as a whole has asked for over a decade.
Are there elementary schools within a mile? Sure. But there is also 12 other bars with
hours of operations that are not when the schools are open and kids would not be walking
by themselves at midnight on a state highway. I'm not sure how our operations could
ever endanger the lives of kids. What we have done is partner with businesses in the
community to host events during the daytime that would allow kids and parents to attend
family and community events at our facility. We expect to pay over 6,000 dollars a month
for insurance to operate as an endorsed multi-purpose venue. We are not here just to
serve alcohol and, then, let them leave. When compared to over a dozen other licensed
establishments in the area, our insurance would never allow us to operate in such a
reckless or unsafe manner. The only way a bar of any type would prevent real concerns,
such as drunk driving to occur, would be simply to prevent overserving. On the other
hand, we have the ability to post staff at these doors, seeing patrons as they enter and
exit. Training bartenders and staff above and beyond what is required by law and a
combination of these circumstances would allow us to effectively prevent nearly all
incidents of drunk driving should they ever occur from our facility. This hearing is really
to discuss the potential impact of an alcohol establishment to our neighbors to the
immediate area. Somehow this wasn't a concern to those opposed to our project when
this same Council approved the permit for Villa Sport, with an outdoor pool, swim-up bar,
and outdoor speakers less than 30 feet from the closest house. We are ten times further,
1/12th the size, and have zero outdoor activities of any kind. When I met all our neighbors
when I was handing out the neighborhood meeting invitations, I did that in person, many
of them spent the time to ask me about the project and that they were excited to have a
place not only to attend events and socialize without having to go all the way to Boise
downtown, but also to get good food later at night. This even includes the HOA
representative that was just speaking before. After his testimony previously he asked us
if he could get late night tacos. Most of them told me flat out that they would not be
attending the meeting, because they support the project and, in fact, many of the
supporters tonight won't be able to attend because they are still at work. We don't have
the same noise concerns as the complaints I pointed out, like Revolutionary-- Revolution
Concert House, because our sound system is not engineered to be as loud as physically
possible. It's designed for clarity, while still allowing patrons at the rear of the building to
carry on a conversation, and we have demonstrated that using sound scientific principles
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that even without the soundproofing the outside noise of our facility, when measured to
the closest house, would always be less than the sound of ambient traffic coming from
Eagle Road. I have seen my -- my fair share of court cases and trials, including several
appeals. I have never heard of a third party appealing a decision, but appeals are based
on findings of fact and provide a secondary option in the event that a procedural or judicial
oversight has resulted in an improper decision as a result of a significant error and just
like jury instructions in a criminal trial, the commissioners were provided with a list of eight
criteria to which to judge the permit upon. Now, both the staff report and the Planning
and Zoning Commission's decision determine that none of these eight items would in any
way prevent the permit from being approved and not only do you have the entire Planning
staff's existing recommendation of approval, who are the experts tasked with determining
if the proposed use fits the city's nature, character, and Comprehensive Plan, you
additionally have an existing approval from the Planning and Zoning Commission itself.
The appeal process in this case is designed for potential impactful oversights, such as --
as I mentioned earlier, the approved tower that would permanently shade residential
areas backyard. It's not to be -- intended to be used as an anti-competitive practice by a
neighboring tenant, whose national presence is attempting to prevent small businesses
from opening. Trying to stop this facility only hurts the thousands of citizens who are
excited about it and, in turn, stops the revenue from it, which could improve roadways,
schools, bolstering acts and music, expanding the arts and other uses from additional
food services and tax revenues. As you see in the staff report, it's noted that our proposed
facility is of a relatively small scale. I wish I could just up and pick to an alternate location,
but in case you haven't tried to lease any commercial space in Meridian lately, there is
already a wait list to just even get The Village to consider something. It's more difficult to
find commercial space than it is to find residential space in some places. Councilman
Cavener, who isn't here, he mentioned in a previous update that an intern had created a
study at the City of Meridian that indicated that commercial space has been in decline in
Meridian for over the last decade and the loss of commercial space opportunities is a high
threshold to overcome. We were told by several dozen people before we picked this
place that this corner was perfectly suited for entertainment. It's right on the main drag of
Eagle Road, situated just north of the existing entertainment hub, and what I soon
discovered is that the majority -- in fact, every single major developer, except for the
Wadsworth Group, wouldn't even look at my proposal. They told me that in the current
state of development for Meridian they would lease exclusively to corporations with
national presence or chain stores, but would not consider leasing to anyone else. So,
you can see it's been a battle for me just to get to this step. But now that I have signed
the lease with Wadsworth, I'm bound to it without even starting our improvements. As I
mentioned earlier, we are not trying to squeeze a stadium where it doesn't belong. It's
not trying to squeeze a square peg into a round hole. Zoning has not changed and it is
congruent with the City of Meridian's Comprehensive Plan. Now, with so much
information and testimony tonight, we have lost sight of why we are here. It isn't to prevent
a business from opening, because everything we are doing, including the music venue,
the event center operation, including the full kitchen and food service, is principally
permitted within the C-G zoning district, without approval other than a CZC. It's solely
about the drinking establishment portion. If I had said this was a plain bar-restaurant with
a 400 capacity, I suspect we wouldn't be in the same situation. Seeing how there is
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already the alcohol licenses in all four corners, even right across the street, including the
Villa Sport approval. Now, as venues tend to immensely support the surrounding areas
in which they are situated, you should have seen how happy the manager of Jimmy John's
was when I told him about our project when I was handing him our neighborhood notices.
He had already started making plans to expand their hours. The bottom line is this: The
music industry in Idaho is a 200 million dollar a year industry and right now Meridian
doesn't really get a penny of that, apart from a few local acts on temporary or outdoor
stages. This doesn't include our support to local organizations, the nonprofits I have listed
previously, support for art or other entertainment, corporate events, weddings, food
services. But considering all those circumstances and seeing no outstanding situation or
errors on the Planning and Zoning Commission's decision, with no legal basis for any
overturning, I once again respectively asked for your approval again tonight. Thank you
for your consideration.
Simison: Thank you. Council?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: There was a question that was brought up earlier in the public testimony that
I would like to have you answer if possible. Somebody had asked about where there is
loading and unloading restaurant supplies, staging items, tour buses. Can you go over
that with us? We didn't have that conversation when you were here first.
Tsai: Yeah. I don't know if we can pull up the floor plan again that was there. But originally
we had planned to have very -- as far as the scale of the actual venue itself, we are now
able to book a lot of the larger acts, for example, like what the Revolution Concert House
or Knitting Factory would book, the 1,000 to 5,000 number capacities, the touring groups.
So, a lot of those issues with whether there is going to be a big tour bus and a big trailer
or a semi truck, these big loadouts don't occur with the smaller local acts, because those
acts are typically musicians that are already based here in the Treasure Valley that have
the approximately -- the 500, the half thousand capacity draw. So, we wouldn't have any
issues with the large -- the large profile vehicles not having a place to park. As far as the
loadout itself, if we were to look at the plan here, on the plan west, that loading bay there
is not really for equipment. We had coordinated with the -- with Wadsworth that the
loadout would be primarily done either after hours or at another convenient time right at
the backside of that building where there is another roll up door, in a time that wouldn't be
in conflict with the Jamba Juice use of that drive-through. So, for example, if they close
at 7.00 p.m. we would do it at let's say 8.00 p.m. Does that answer your question?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
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Perreault: Not exactly. To me -- I guess I'm trying to understand after hours if you close
as late as you close, you know, and, then, of course, if--yeah, maybe they are not pulling
up in a big bus, but they have got equipment most likely and music equipment most likely.
So, is there a safe and easy place for them to access the building outside of the front
entrance? Is that -- you mentioned this area in the west. That is not a loading dock.
Tsai: So, we don't have a loading dock per se, which is a -- like a different -- like a specific
one that they could back into.
Perreault: Yeah.
Tsai: There is a -- I believe it's a ten foot by 12 foot roll up door that's on the back of the
building that just occurs right in the drive-through aisle and typically those acts would all
show up the day before their performance. So, if say their act was the next day, we would
be able to load them in at say the 8:00 p.m. within our operating hours, but not, you know,
at 3:00 a.m. where it's disturbing anything around there and that does facilitate that -- that
roll up door and the access which is directly into the backstage area. So, there is not a
lot of equipment that has to be pushed across a parking lot or something. It goes right in
through that roll up door and, then, straight to that staging area.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, follow up.
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: So, let's say you have three events in one day and you have caterers coming
in and you have supplies being delivered by maybe Tate's Rents or something and you
have all of them show up at the same time, what is that going to look like and where is
that -- how is that going to work and function with -- with -- with patrons coming to the
other businesses in the area?
Tsai: I would say the easiest solution to that is that we would never book that many events
in a single day. For example, like when we had the -- the weddings that we were giving
away for free, when they were booking their facilities we would say, hey, we can do an
afternoon offload, where you would come in -- or the night before and do your setup and,
then, you know, subsequently once we were into normal operating hours, then, your event
is over and, then, you know, we would just become a regular lounge or a restaurant.
Lounge-bar for that operation. So, we would never book, you know, several consecutive
big loadout events on the same day or even the same time, for that exact reason that we
don't want them all showing up at once and trying to get through the drive-through or the
loading area all at once.
Simison: Council, any additional questions? Okay. Thank you.
Tsai: Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
Simison: Ask the appellants to, please, come forward. You will have 15 minutes.
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Black: Your Honor, Council Members, I will make this quick. Let me touch on a couple
of things. Mr. Tsai claims that there -- there was no complaints when Villa Sport had a
swim-up bar and outdoor speakers. We have ambient noise speakers around the pool
that are shut off at certain hours and there is absolutely no swim-up bar. So, I find it a
little disingenuous with the misinformation that continues to go on with him. He is a great
orator. He tells a great story. He's trying to live his life's dream. I respect that. Everything
he talks about as far as the people taking their time out to protect their community, he's
got a lot of innuendos and slights on them about after hours tacos, et cetera. It's a little
upsetting. So, all of his information that he offers is basically him telling you that he did a
study and he gives you his word that he is going to make sure that we don't have these
people in there. If that isn't the definition of putting the fox in charge of the hen house,
have never seen it. His attempt at a traffic study was horribly misleading. His counts that
he cites on the 320 feet -- I think Commissioner Strader had a question on that. The
separation distance requirement is a minimum of a thousand. That's another reason that
he keeps skimming over that you need a conditional use permit. A conditional use permit
is a privileged license. He -- he doesn't have a right to be granted all this because he is
completely compliant. He has not demonstrated the ability to handle the parking. We
don't have any concrete evidence about the fire marshal approving a plan, because he
hasn't submitted any of his architectural plans. So, how could you know what you are
approving as a fire marshal when it's an empty box that he says I'm only going to fill with
400 people? There feels like a lot of hide the ball that's going on. We get some
information, again, provided by him, not third parties that are qualified to consult or
discuss or quantify some of these issues that need to be addressed and his entire rebuttal
to our comments was his very same story and pitch and plea and proposition of why he
should put this here and how great of a deal it is. He has not answered any of the
questions from any form of a meat and potatoes or put some teeth into some agreements
and have some other people that are authorities on these things, like parking, traffic
circulation, stacking, et cetera. He's not offered any of that. He just keeps telling you,
oh, alcohol is not a problem. Oh, parking is not a problem. Oh, traffic is not a problem.
Oh, the neighborhood is not a problem. Oh, their concerns are disregarded. That to me
doesn't fly. Is there anyone here from Wadsworth at all? Never heard from Wadsworth.
I would think a developer who gets a five unit plotted pad use on the hard corner would
talk to the neighbors and try to come up with some solution about this very restrictive and
hyper inadequate infrastructure to handle the type of traffic that they are putting there.
Malissa, I believe was her name, who was on there is exactly right. When the plat was
put before us and everybody looked at it, no big deal, standard retail, little shops. That is
a -- can't tell you how big of a chasm to cross between those uses and a nightclub that
we have now cut from 1 ,000 to 400. 1 think everybody read between the lines.
Commissioner, you had some great questions on how do you run a business on a pro
forma. We run plenty of food and beverage businesses. There is an absolute number of
patrons that have to go in there and you are figuring out your covers and your drinks that
you are going to sell. For him to dodge that question and not answer it tells me that there
is something that's a little wrong there. You either have your pro forma down or you don't
go spend a million dollars if you are a research analyst. There is a lot of stuff that doesn't
connect here. So, I would like concrete answers, supported by information from third-
party people that are authorities that relate to traffic, parking, stalking, policing. He's
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already agreed to -- to give up his -- his conditional use permit, a privilege license, if he
is found in violation of any of these if for some reason this was to get approved. I would
love to hear some of those conditions that we can measure to and have third parties verify
and thank you for your time.
Hoeger: I very much appreciate the opportunity to be able to stand before you again and
for how much time you have taken and dedicated this night. I have a thousand points.
I'm going to try to stay as high level as I can. I think that rather than go point by point and
talk about all the details, you know, the public was kind enough to hit some of the more
important things. We have seen a variety of different places where some pretty bold
statements have been made that have been proven very very false. Not a single applicant
that wrote in an opposition lived anywhere near this. How many of those testimonies
would be here tonight? Why would somebody make a statement that's so easy to
discredit? It doesn't even make sense to me. So, clearly there is opposition coming from
the community. Clearly a lot of these arguments that he's made don't hold water any
better than a colander. We have got -- we have got to stop talking about -- you know, in
the initial presentation I made the observation of are we talking about apples and oranges
or are we --you know, is everything that has legs a cow and we have just heard repeatedly
tonight that his establishment is compared to restaurants or to bars or to all these other
places. The code doesn't even see it the same way. We have got to put all of those
arguments --they need to be stricken and put aside, because the code treats it separately
because it is a separate establishment. It's a different business case. I want to address
The Village comment. So, I will own this one. I made an assumption because in a
previous testimony he said I have been to all these places, I have looked for real estate
-- or even tonight he said, look, I have gone everywhere I possibly can and have you tried
leasing commercial real estate lately? I can't go anywhere else. So, yeah, I made an
assumption that he actually had conversation with them, because he said I have gone
everywhere and I can't find a place. This is the only place I can find and this is the problem
with the slippery slope that we have gone down, is that he will make a statement on one
hand and say this is the way it is. Another example is this is Idaho's only world class EDM
nightclub, but yet we are just like the other 61 venues that have alcohol licenses and we
just want to be number 62. Well, you can forgive me for being confused when he is
making these statements all over the place of the things that he has and hasn't done and,
then, he says the exact opposite thing two sentences later. It's not a representation that
if I were an investor in his business, if I were hearing these answers, it's not a
representation that I would feel comfortable with. Your questions have shown that you
are seeing through a lot of stuff. I don't have to tell this to you guys, because you are
smart enough to connect the dots and you have a vested interest in the city or you
wouldn't be sitting in the seats that you are sitting in. So, a lot of it is smoke and mirrors.
I wasn't necessarily planning to go here tonight, but the testimony of the woman who
spoke about trafficking really hit home with me. The reason I got involved with this appeal
in the first place -- because I'm a busy business owner, I have other things to do. I have
five daughters. I, in my day job and because I am a father of five girls, I probably care
more than most about what my girls will grow up and inherit. My sister worked for the
Polaris Project, which is a 501(c)(3) based out of Washington D.C., that deals with human
trafficking. Here is the reality. There is clearly a difference between restaurants and
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nightclubs. Extreme statements are almost never true. Okay? Most of the people that
are going to go to this venue are going to be good citizens. They are going and looking
for a good time. I don't disagree with that. They are going to be responsible. They are
going to use Uber. But we would be lying to ourselves and we would be irresponsible
stewards of the city if we didn't recognize that there will be some sub portion of the people
that are being attracted by tactics like five dollar coverage for women, 15 for men. Men
dressed up nice. Women come in your swimming suits. The marketing is deliberately
attracting a certain subsection of society that is going to lead to some of that behavior.
That's not his intent, but it's kind of like a friend of mine used to say, square dancing and
moonshine are not the same thing, but they are often found in the same place. It's
inevitable. This should be a pretty easy decision. Code is an adequate; right? We have
talked about this already. We don't have the proper code in Meridian yet to deal with this
very specific use case. Mr. Black mentioned to me as we were sitting here that in Las
Vegas the parking ratios are -- are ten to a thousand for nightclubs. We don't have that
code here. It's not something we have had to deal with. A city like Las Vegas we will
bring it up. Can we bring up that slide that has the list of cities? Mr. Dodson, would you
mind doing that if you can. You know, I wrote down a quote here when -- when he talks
about -- and he said I pulled -- let's see. I have too many notes. The quote was -- here
is a list -- here is a list of cities that are similar in size or location that I would reference.
And these cities here that are either similar in size or location, these are all over the
country and most of them are major metropolises. This is irrelevant. Like most of the
arguments that we have heard, they are use cases that don't even apply. At the end of
the day I took some notes when we opened up at the very very beginning. Mr. Nary, you
read a list of the deciding factors that should be considered in the conditional use permit.
We have heard public testimony, we have had facts that have been presented and what
we are supposed to be looking for is a site that's large enough to accommodate the use.
We don't have that. If there is anything else we can agree on tonight like that -- we just
don't have a site that can accommodate this use. It has to be harmonious with the
Comprehensive Plan. At the close of my testimony I listed several points of the
Comprehensive Plan that it does not meet and it's not harmonious with. That it will not
adversely change the area. I don't think that point can be disputed. To not create
excessive additional cost to public services and to not set precedent for additional
noncompliant uses. How many times tonight have we heard the code is met. It's C-G.
It's -- it's principally permitted. And there are two reasons why it needs a comp -- needs
a conditional use permit, not one. So, it's not principally permitted. You have got parking.
You have a history of pandering. I really appreciated the -- the representative from the
HOA that came up and talked about the November meeting and how the story continued
to change. We are asking you to use your judgment. We are asking you to read through
all these different misrepresentations. We are asking you to be able to act in the best
interest of the city to continue -- to consider the Comprehensive Plan to make a decision
that's going to uphold the vision of the City of Meridian, which is to create the premier city
in which to live, work, and raise a family. We appreciate everything that you have done
and appreciate the sacrifices that you make to be able to be here and to be able to be
stewards of our city and with that thank you and close.
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Simison: Thank you. Council, any questions? Okay. Thank you. Council, you have
your Legal Department here. Planning. Police. Fire. Clerks office. Who ever you
want --
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: -- for additional comments or questions. Yes, Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I, myself, would like to hear from the Police Department. Not any specific
questions per se, but maybe some anticipated concerns that could come up with a venue
of this size. As a police officer would you say the primary concerns would be crime, traffic
safety, all of the above? Give us your thoughts in general.
Leslie: Mr. Mayor, Council Perreault. Obviously, I don't have a crystal ball. Can't predict
what actual issues we will have at the facility. But, obviously, the traffic would clearly be
a concern for us. Parking I think probably is -- is going to be at the top of the list as well.
We see parking issues all throughout the city, whether it be in our parks, with the large
scale events, other bars that have been mentioned tonight, obviously, we have parking
issues there as well. Anytime you have alcohol, late night, fight calls you are going to be
there. We see those in other establishments in our city. It takes a good strong
management team on site of those facilities to make sure that it keeps it to a minimum
and as long as we have that good partnership with the management of a lot of the facilities
in town, establishments, we seem to have a pretty good handle on those types of
situations. To say that a lot of it depends on the trustworthiness and the accountability
within the facility, the staff they hire, how they manage it, really seems to be a driving
force on -- on the quality of life issues that come from the facilities or the establishment.
So, if ran right, if managed appropriately, we seem to have very little problems with -- with
alcohol establishments. It's -- it's when those attention to details is not maintained at
those facilities that we seem to have a lot more work there. Hope that gives a little insight.
But it definitely would -- I think it's going to increase our workload for sure. I mean you
get 400 people in a nightclub is -- is definitely going to require our attention for sure. And
it can be minimized based off of how well it's ran and the clientele they attract for sure.
Strader: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Strader.
Strader: I'm looking around, but if we -- if we feel like we are ready for discussion -- we
tend to err on keeping the public hearing open, because something comes up maybe we
will need to hear from somebody. I think we have heard a lot. I will just give my opinion.
I think there are unique community safety risks associated with a nightclub. I do not think
a nightclub is the same as a restaurant. I think that that's the reason that we have this
specific CUP process in place. For me the number one consideration is location. I do
not believe that this is a good location for this establishment. Very simply, the location of
the southern property line is 330 feet from the nearest residents. That's just incompatible
with that neighborhood. To me that will adversely affect the neighborhood. It's not about
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electronic dance music, it's not about your music preferences, it's not about the character
of the business owner, it's not about any of those things. It's simply--to me it is a question
of location and to me this is a terrible location for a nightclub. Some of the other points
that -- well, I could go on and on, but that for me is number one. I definitely don't think
the site is big enough to accommodate this use. I don't believe the parking is adequate
at all. I think maybe as a city we should look at our code and establish parking standards
specific for nightclubs, if we think this is going to come up again, but that to me came out
loud and clear and, then, I think the access is inadequate for this use as well and I also
am afraid that this would create a precedent going forward to see similar type of uses in
this location in close proximity to residences. So, for me, yeah, that's where I'm coming
out on it. Again, it's not about what type of music you like, it's not about having fun or not
having fun, it's about the location of a nightclub. This is a poor location for a nightclub in
my opinion.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Continue the discussion. I will dovetail a little bit on what Council Woman Strader
had raised. I mean first and foremost we want to encourage entrepreneurs to take risk
and -- and to try and make Meridian a home for their business. So, it's exciting to see
something that, in preparation for the hearing, has been described as a truly innovative,
unique, kind of one of its kind facility that's going to provide for our city an extremely
attractive and intentionally popular destination, which I think is fantastic and you should
be encouraged to do something like that in our community. But to Council Woman
Strader's point and some of the discussion, the review that we have got in determining
what is appropriate here on this appeal, all falls with the CUP and it's -- I have been
listening to the testimony and the remarks, looking at these eight factors and legal counsel
just spoke of them initially, but the CUP findings and there is just several of them that I
didn't find sufficient and I -- and I don't think there was ever really a record that -- that
made them sufficient and one of the greatest challenges is that comment on location. I
think this club could be exciting. I think if it's -- I'm not as concerned with EDM music or
whatever music that's played in it and I think there is a lot of opportunity to be extremely
unique and diverse and fun, but you have a location proposed here that absolutely does
not have parking. At the same time, it's absolutely designed to drive massive demand for
parking. It would certainly I think be wildly successful and I think that's some of the
concern is what if you do everything great and what if this is really popular? You know, I
noted in preparation that there was reference to a thousand people is the intent, which as
a business person in the pro forma comments I think makes great sense. I mean you
want as much as you can to get into your -- into your business. So, to see it scaled back
I, then, had concern about how do you go from a thousand to 500 to 400, but not, then,
reduce your capital cost the same and --and to hear that a lease was committed to without
this getting addressed first, all made it extremely concerning that -- that there was some
structure to this business model to make it successful. At least as much as I initially
thought. So, it still seemed to be a business where you are going to have intense demand
for a unique product and there is -- there is no way to solve parking. At lease it's not
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solved yet. When we hear that there is not cross-parking going to be permitted, as had
originally been discussed during P&Z hearings as perhaps a solution and that's gone and
the lease has been signed and committed to and there is not a vested certain right to
possess all 120 spots, which you certainly would never get, but that doesn't exist. So,
you have an absolute certainty for demand of 120 spots and that's after deducting the
rideshare assumptions of 40 percent of the 400 and the -- the math still gobbles up all the
parking. So, all 120 spots are gone because it's going to be really successful. There is
no place to put all the cars for any other business, so -- it steers back -- at least some of
the analysis to the CUP findings that I just -- I struggle with being able to make. I just
can't get there. You know, the first one that we are looking at is is the site large enough
to accommodate the proposed use? I don't think it is at this location. Oh. Thank you for
putting that up. Number one, I don't think we are there. I don't think the record supports
it. I think this -- this concert venue, this -- this nightclub is intended to have lots of people
and so one problem. Two somewhat dovetails. And harmonious is a bit loose of a word
and it is C-G, but it's conditionally -- you know, you can only do this if a unique license is
granted to do it, set on certain conditions to make it successful. Otherwise, it's not
permitted. It's prohibited, quite frankly. So, two, I -- I struggled really with one. I struggle
with three. Right. Is the operation and maintenance -- maintenance compatible with other
uses in the general neighborhood and existing area. The same problem I think strikes
out number three. That element I just don't find in this record to have been supported by
the evidence and we can't impose a condition on number four, because, really, I think that
condition would be provide with certainty and absolute vested right in perpetuity to have
120, for example, parking spaces dedicated for this particular use and there is zero means
-- there is no mechanism to do that. Certainly not in the record today. So, there is not a
condition that -- that we go with number four. So, those -- let me see if the other -- what
I marked on the other ones. Number six. I think the record doesn't support finding number
six is met and the concern I saw with number six was, you know, it won't create -- the first
part isn't as much of a concern, additional cost for public facilities, but to be detrimental
to the economic welfare of the community. That principle ties into if your success requires
use of a hundred percent of the parking, I mean the other four pads are never going to
develop. If the developer was here he probably would say it on the record, but nobody is
going to lease those other spots if you have got to take 120 -- basically all of the parking
spots. So, I think it is detrimental if it's going to be as successful as -- as you certainly
would make it, detrimental to the economic welfare of that area. So, the last one that I
made notes on, in listening to the testimony and reviewing today, was number seven and
number seven -- one of the elements that I thought was -- I hadn't cleared the hurdle was
the excessive production of noise and there was reference to noise studies, but there
wasn't -- I didn't see a noise study reference, other than -- it was in the application and its
mid teens pages and there is reference to one of your -- one of your experience points
was 12 -- I think it was 12 years -- 12 years of commercial sound and lighting experience
and I thought I was going to see a study and analysis and we saw the inverse -- I forget
what it was called. The inverse law of -- it basically was two paragraphs that tried to
articulate in -- with certain brevity how there is not going to be any sound and to the -- to
the statistic of there is not sound beyond ambient car noise to Eagle Road, there wasn't
any analytical data from a third party research tested that supported that conclusion. So,
the -- that was just an additional consideration that I just didn't see the record having met
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with them -- and the particular -- that claim in particular that was really big, that it's not
going to generate any noise beyond the adjacent traffic. And it was referenced in the
application as well to a science background and the -- the necessity to require a review
of third party tested verified research material to support conclusions, I didn't see it with
regards to the sound. So, I thought number seven was a problem for me as well. Just to
run through the list, number eight -- I didn't find any concerns with number eight. And not
necessarily number five. It really wasn't a concern for me. I think you could get there,
because any use on this corner, these five pads are going to create traffic. It's -- it's less
safe with businesses there than it is as an open field. So, I'm not certain that one is the
problem. But the other ones that I have referenced -- I think those five other required
findings, I don't believe the record satisfies them and based on that I -- I, too, can't be
supportive of the CUP as requested. Those are the thoughts that I have kind of compiled
in prep and through hearing all the public comment and the applicant's and the appellants'
comments.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: As usual Councilman Borton was very thorough in his analysis and that's
always appreciated. The applicant -- the applicant said something at -- at the end about,
you know, if this is a bar-restaurant with 400 capacity it would not be, you know, going
though --you know, going through the same issue as this facility. Well, if it's a commercial
and it's not required to go through the CUP process, of course not. But any facility at this
particular location, if it had to go through the CUP process, conditional use process, we
would be doing the same thing. Four hundred capacity -- whatever that -- like I said
earlier, a fun zone, whatever it was, and they don't have a cross-parking agreement, there
is not enough space here. I agree with Council Woman Strader on -- that we need to take
a look at for entertainment venues or whatever we want to call them, that we have to
come to some sort of resolution on that and looking at other communities and what --
what they do. For a facility like this I would be at 2.5, you know. That would be 160
spaces needed for that, you know, just off the top of my head when I do the math and
there is no way you can meet 160 parking spaces. So trying to make a condition here
from my perspective can't be done. So, to me it's one of those situations that -- where
the impact of parking and -- is stopping this and -- and we are very familiar with parking
issues. We hear about these places. I think the appellants brought up some locations
that we hear about quite regularly and I could add a few more to your list where you have
a strip mall, somebody goes in with a bar-restaurant and it's very popular and, boy, the
complaints we get, you know. So, I did a little research online looking at Revolution Club.
You know, folks -- someone came up from Salt Lake and they said, yeah, we couldn't find
a place to park, we kind of laughed at this facility, because it's an old grocery store and
we ended up parking at this transportation office thing. You know, that's ITD District Three
office. Seemed like it was okay. And, of course, Commissioner Lorcher in the -- in the
P&Z meeting had mentioned the fact that running a towing company operation and how
many people they towed from Dairy Queen at 300 dollars a pop. I'm thinking, wow, I'm
wrong business I guess, but -- and I mentioned earlier the Buffalo Club. I took a look at
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that facility. It's not a huge facility, but it's part of a quarter mile strip mall. That's why I
asked about the cross-parking agreements, because there is room to spread out without
impact to the residents and that's the complaints we get are from the residents about the
parking and the traffic and the noise and people and different things like that. So,
Councilman Borton has laid it out pretty well I think. So, it's -- as -- and as our legal
counsel has laid out, this is a new hearing, this is a decision that we make based on the
information we have, reviewing all the comments, all the information, the applicant, the
appellants have brought forward, the hearing material, other research that we do to make
a decision on this. So, I'm quite comfortable on the decision I can make.
Simison: Councilman Bernt?
Bernt: Hey guys, I'm still here. I haven't fallen asleep yet. You know, I completely agree
with my Council Members who have spoke previous and I believe in brevity, so I will be
-- I will be very quick. In Bill's introductory statement he mentioned how we make
decisions on these type of appeals and it's real simple and it's been real simple for me
and it boils down to code, boils down to ordinance, and it boils down to law and there is
a lot of testimony, there always is. There is a lot of emotion and a lot of opinion and I
appreciate the testimony that was given. On top of that, I -- I believe that this is an
interesting business model. As a small business owner myself I respect wholeheartedly
those who invest, those who have vision, those who are willing to spend resources and
-- and, you know, to provide something to a community that's not currently available and
I have a lot of respect for the applicant and for what he has presented. For me it boils
down to a couple things and Joe spoke about it, so I won't get into it very -- very much in
detail, but the first note that I wrote down is that I don't believe The Oasis nightclub would
be in harmony with the comp plan. I don't know which one that is. Which --which finding
that is. But also I -- I also do believe that parking capacity will affect other properties in
the vicinity and -- and along with the -- the other details that -- that -- that Joe mentioned
I -- those were -- that's where my decision will -- will be tonight.
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. After reading through all of the written testimony and
the -- the application and all the information, again, I -- I really came into this trying to
keep an open mind and -- and not necessarily have any set expectations and I have to
say -- I really appreciate the creativity of this project. I love the idea of having the multi-
purpose event venue. I like the idea of a place to socialize with music in our city. I'm
really supportive of all of those. I believe that we do have a city that wants to see those
things and so I'm -- I'm disappointed of the limitations that are created with this property
because of its location and so I have really tried to hear everything and really process it
this evening as open minded as I can, taking into account very specifically what it is that
we have to consider and as Councilman -- Councilman Bernt said, really respect the
applicant's effort and investment in this and I'm disappointed that it's -- it's coming down
to sort of a technicality of-- of issues with parking and for me specifically it is an issue of
parking -- more specifically the cross-parking agreements that aren't existing that I believe
Councilman Hoaglun is correct that we would have required those. But it's also the
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circulation through the site that has me concerned. So, we have had several applications
where there is, you know, three to five acre properties on major corners. Some of those
applications have been commercial, some of an office, some have been residential and
every time we hear an application with those -- that small amount of acreage on a major
corner, it almost always comes down to not having great access. Whether it's right-in,
right-out limitation, whether it's through a neighborhood and it-- because of the small size
-- physical size of that acreage it creates limitations on use almost every time and it's not
just because it's an entertainment venue, it's -- we have had these conversations on
Linder and Ustick down the road where there was a four acre application for four-plexes.
We have had these conversations in this same area where we have small acreage
projects that have limited access that requires the traffic to go through private
neighborhoods and so I -- this has been a really -- I really struggle with this decision,
because I really like the concept, I like the idea, I like the use, I like the creativity, I want
to have more event spaces in our city, but I have -- I have concerns about the circulation,
I have concerns about the traffic, I have concerns about the parking and I don't have -- I
own a real estate company and have been in the industry for a long time, I don't have
concerns about property values. I do think there are going to be enough structures that
are going to be built in between this location and the residences that will block a lot of
what is going to happen between Villa Sport and the -- whatever will go to the south of
this I think there is going to be enough that's going to be there that's going to block a lot
of -- of the noise concerns and light concerns. So, that for me wasn't an issue in my
consideration. So, that's all I really have to share. Primarily it's traffic circulation and, you
know, I -- as far as this being a venue that serves alcohol -- maybe that wasn't all I had to
share. As far as this being a venue that -- that serves alcohol, you know what, there are
-- there are liquor licenses in all corners of this and in my opinion somebody can -- can
overindulge at 6:00 p.m. or at midnight or at 2:00 a.m. or at lunchtime and create a great
harm to others as far as drunk driving goes. I understand the concern that there -- that
there is potential for that harm to be greater in a nightclub type of environment. However,
I would anticipate fewer people would be on the road between midnight and 2:00 a.m. in
general. So, that for me was not as much of an element in the decision, because I do
believe there is potential for -- for poor choices made at any time of the day and night.
So, that's -- that's what I have to share and I agree with my fellow Council that -- that this
location is just too limiting for the use ultimately.
Simison: And, Council, I'm going to go ahead and share my thoughts real quick, because
I don't disagree with anything that's been said and it's -- it's maybe a little different than
what Council Woman Strader said at the very beginning is when I first got our first e-mail
about this way back when, you know, honestly, this location is part of our community, it's
fine for this event from my perspective, but kind of what was alluded to is -- it's last in into
this property that's already been developed with other uses and trying to fit in and that
makes it difficult, because I think that if it's --this would have come in at the very beginning
when this area started developing and was part of a plan, you could have addressed a
lot of these issues, you know, but the corridor location of Ustick and Eagle was never the
concern from my standpoint. But especially it just doesn't -- it doesn't seem to have
enough space to work in this location with all the other strategies and had it been eight
years ago, nine years ago, when this first area was -- you know, these things were being
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thought about or the adjacent neighborhood was before it was built, it probably could have
fit in in a way, but it would have taken the time and effort at that point in time, in my opinion,
to really fit in with the overall area, because I would say it is a major commercial corner,
there is other-- other uses in that, but for the -- at this point in time for all the reasons you
all have said I agree, it doesn't -- it doesn't make sense at this point in time in this way.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Do you mind if I address one more thing?
Simison: Absolutely.
Perreault: We have had a lot of conversation about the type of use in this location. This
-- this is -- this is -- mixed use regional is intended for regional uses. So, there was so
much testimony about this being a residential area and it is, but this is intended for these
types -- not specifically an entertainment venue, but it is intended for commercial business
with a -- with a lot of traffic you are on two major -- you are in a major intersection that's
designed to handle traffic of this capacity. So, I just want to put that out there, because
that -- that's what our Comprehensive Plan is for. That is designed for uses with a lot of
traffic. The primary concern with traffic in this location is that there is not a great entrance
and a great exit for that -- that many people coming in. So, I just wanted to clarify that,
because I don't consider this a residential corner at all and so I just -- I just wanted to
state that specifically, because I feel like that that has been a lot of what's been said as
far as concerns and I'm saying that because whatever does come into -- whatever future
applications come into play, like -- whether they have a conditional use permit or not, this
is still going to be considered as a regional commercial location. So, wanted to put that
out there.
Simison: Thank you.
Nary: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of Council, as you contemplate whatever your decision -- so,
in a conditional use permit process your decision is twofold -- and Council Member Borton
sort of hit on the first one. Can you make these findings that this -- this application can
meet those specific CUP findings that are necessary. I think Council Member Borton --
or, excuse me, Council Member Hoaglun hit on the second prong of that, which is are
there any conditions that we could impose and enforce that would allow it to, then, meet
those conditions. So, as you contemplate that decision would you, please, be sure to add
that into your findings of both that -- when it doesn't -- it didn't provide adequate -- if it
didn't provide adequate evidence for you to make the findings or there isn't enough
conditions and as -- I think as Planning has stated and I have stated, you know, conditions
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for--often for Planning or Legal as we try to enforce, deal primarily with things like building
height, building size, locations of drive-throughs, locations of access and hours of
operation. Much of the testimony you have heard are use driven. This type of --
gymnastic meets and dance contests and other things that we can't really enforce on the
business owner on what type of uses they have, whether this becomes a nightclub, EDM
club, country western bar, whatever, we really can't -- we really can't enforce those types
of restrictions, so that's much more difficult to condition. As we have already told you,
you know, enforcing conditions of capacity is very difficult to do. So, I won't say it's
impossible to do, but it is incredibly difficult to do. So, it really -- if -- if whatever you are
contemplating as a decision point here, if you could at least make the record clear what
your thought process is, because, again, we have had at least one other venue I can think
of in our city that, again, we had the similar challenges and we could not enforce the kinds
of restrictions that have been talked about, it was really more on hours of operations and
locations and access. So, anyway, just wanted to add that for the record, Mr. Mayor.
Simison: Thank you. Councilman Borton.
Borton: Mr. Mayor, I move we close the public hearing on Items 5 and 6, CR-2021-0004,
CR-2021-0005.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, I will second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing. Is there discussion
on the motion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed nay. The ayes have it.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Borton: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Councilman Borton.
Borton: Taking both of these together, I move that we -- identified as City Council reviews.
So, I will phrase it as a grant of the appeal on both Items 5 and 6, the consequence of
which is to deny the CUP application that's been presented in CR-2021-0004 and 2021-
0005. The basis for the denial of the CUP application as presented includes the Council's
comments with regards to the eight conditions from UDC 11-5B-6E, that the permit as
requested has failed to meet based on the evidence that's been presented in tonight's
hearing. It's inclusive of the comments of staff, the appellant, the developer, as well as
comments of the public. In addition to that, there does not appear to be from this record
conditions that would satisfy the concerns that have been raised by Council to those eight
elements of the UDC and for both of those reasons the appeal would be granted and the
CUP would be denied.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, I will second the motion.
Simison: Have a motion and a second. Is there discussion on the motion?
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Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: Mr. Nary, is that sufficient for your findings?
Nary: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, yes.
Simison: Is there further discussion? Clerk will call the roll.
Roll call: Borton, yea; Cavener, absent; Bernt, yea; Perreault, yea; Hoaglun, yea; Strader,
yea.
Simison: All ayes. Motion carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
ORDINANCES [Action Item]
7. Ordinance No.: 21-1935: An Ordinance (H-2021-0014 — Artemisia
Subdivision) for Annexation of a Parcel Being a Portion of the SE '/4 of
the SE '/4 of Section 14, Township 3 North, Range 1 West, Ada County,
Idaho, and Being More Particularly Described in Attachment "A" and
Annexing Certain Lands and Territory, Situated in Ada County, Idaho,
and Adjacent and Contiguous to the Corporate Limits of the City of
Meridian as Requested by the City of Meridian; Establishing and
Determining the Land Use Zoning Classification of 25.67 Acres of
Land from RUT to C-G (General Retail and Service Commercial)
Zoning District in the Meridian City Code; Providing that Copies of this
Ordinance Shall be Filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada
County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as Required
by Law; and Providing for a Summary of the Ordinance; and Providing
for a Waiver of the Reading Rules; and Providing an Effective Date
Simison: We still have some more business to do, so you are welcome to stay or not, but
we will be wrapping up here in about two minutes. So, with that, Council, I would like to
move on to Item 7, which is Ordinance No. 21-1935. Ask the Clerk to read this ordinance
by title.
Johnson: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. It's an ordinance related H-2021-0014, Artemisia
Subdivision, for annexation of a parcel being a portion of the SE '/4 of the SE '/4 of Section
14, Township 3 North, Range 1 West, Ada county, Idaho, and being more particularly
described in Attachment "A" and annexing certain lands and territory, situated in Ada
county, Idaho, and adjacent and contiguous to the corporate limits of the City of Meridian
as requested by the City of Meridian; establishing and determining the land use zoning
classification of 25.67 acres of land from RUT to C-G (General Retail and Service
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Commercial) Zoning District in the Meridian City Code; providing that copies of this
ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the
Idaho State Tax Commission, as required by law; and providing for a summary of the
ordinance; and providing for a waiver of the reading rules; and providing an effective date.
Simison: Thank you. Council, you have heard this ordinance read by title. Is there
anybody that would like it read in its entirety? If not, do I have a motion?
Perreault: Mr. Mayor?
Simison: Council Woman Perreault.
Perreault: I move that we approve Ordinance No. 21-1935 with the suspension of rules.
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, I second the motion.
Simison: I have a motion and a second to approve the ordinance under suspension of
the rules. Is there any discussion? If not, all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed
nay. The ayes have it.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Simison: Council, anything under future meeting topics?
Hoaglun: Mr. Mayor, just probably in the future something about parking in entertainment
districts, stadiums, whatever. Large venues, so --
Simison: So, is that another UDC?
Hoaglun: Exactly. Somewhere down the road, so --
Simison: With that do I have a motion?
Hoaglun: Move to adjourn.
Perreault: Mr. Mayor, second that motion.
Simison: Motion and a second to adjourn. All in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed
nay. The ayes have it. We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 12.11 A.M.
(AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
MAYOR ROBERT SIMISON DATE APPROVED
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON - CITY CLERK
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AGENDA ITEM
Public Forum - Future Meeting Topics
The Public are invited to sign up in advance of the meeting at
www.meridiancity.org/forum to address elected officials regarding topics of
general interest or concern of public matters. Comments specific to an active
land use/development applications are not permitted during this time.
By law, no decisions can be made on topics presented at the Public
Forum. However, City Counicl may request the topic be added to a future
meeting agenda for further discussion or action. The Mayor may also direct
staff to provide followup assistance regarding the matter.
CITY OF MERIDIAN
CITY COUNCIL
PUBLIC FORUM SIGN - IN SHEET
Date : July 20 , 2021
Prior to the commencement of the meeting a person wishing to address the Mayor and City
Council MUST sign in and limit their comments to the matter described below. Complaints
about individuals, city staff, business or private matters will not be allowed. Testimony or
comment on an active application or proposal that is or will be pending before Planning and
Zoning or City Council is strictly prohibited by Idaho law. Each speaker will have up to three
(3) minutes to address the Mayor and Council, but the chair may stop the speaker if the
matter does appear to violate guidelines, varies from the topic identified on this sign in sheet
or other provisions of law or policy.
Print Name Provide Description of Discussion Topic
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AGENDA ITEM
ITEM TOPIC: Resolution No. 21-2277: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City Council of
the City of Meridian, Appointing Tyler Ricks to Seat 3 of the Historic Preservation Commission
from July 20, 2021 through October 31, 2023; and Providing an Effective Date
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CITY OF MERIDIAN RESOLUTION NO. 21-2277
BY THE CITY COUNCIL:
BERNT, BORTON, CAVENER,
HOAGLUN, PERREAULT, STRADER
A RESOLUTION OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
MERIDIAN,APPOINTING TYLER RICKS TO SEAT 3 OF THE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION COMMISSION FROM JULY 20, 2021 THROUGH OCTOBER 31,
2023; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS,Seat 3 of the Meridian Historic Preservation Commission is currently vacant;
and
WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Meridian deems the appointment of Tyler
Ricks to Seat 3 of the Meridian Historic Preservation Commission through October 31,2023 to be
in the best interest of the Meridian Historic Preservation Commission and of the City of Meridian.
NOW THEREFORE,BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN CITY, IDAHO:
Section 1. That Tyler Ricks is hereby appointed to Seat 3 of the Meridian Historic
Preservation Commission, with a term to expire October 31, 2023.
Section 2.That this Resolution shall be in full force and effect immediately upon passage.
ADOPTED by the City Council of the City of Meridian, Idaho,this 20th day of July,2021.
APPROVED by the Mayor of the City of Meridian, Idaho, this 20th day of July, 2021.
APPROVED: ATTEST:
Mayor Robert E. Simison Chris Johnson, City Clerk
APPOINTMENT OF TYLER RICKS TO THE MERIDIAN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
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Ei]on for City Appointed Commissions Submit Date:Jun 18, 2021
Profile
Tyler J Ricks
First Name Middle Initial Last Name
tylerricks@outlook.com
Email Address
1242 North SawCreek PI
Home Address
Meridian ID 83642
City State Postal Code
Season Team Lead at
Walmart#5841
Occupation
Which Boards would you like to apply for?
Historical Preservation Commission: Submitted
Question applies to multiple boards
Please select all of the following as applicable
W I have resided in the City of Meridian for two years or greater
Residency
Are you a resident of the City of Meridian?
r. Yes r No
If not, do you live in Meridian's area of impact?
9 NIA (Meridian Resident)
What areas of city government are of most interest to you?
Historical Committee and Planning and Zoning
Have you participated in any level of volunteer government service in the past?
r. Yes r No
If yes, please list.
Mayors Youth Council
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Agree with the Following Statement
I understand the following: Members of these groups serve on a voluntary basis and receive
no financial compensation. Participation requires a significant time commitment
(approximately 10-15 hours per month). Some groups have a limited number of members; in
these instances a vacancy must exist in order for a new applicant to be considered.After all
applications have been received and reviewed,the Mayor makes an appointment which must
be confirmed by the Meridian City Council.
W I Agree
Demographics
Interests & Experiences
[.attar of Interest
Why are you interested in serving on a board or commission? You may also submit a letter
of interest.
am interested in serving on the Historic Preservation Commission due to my love of history in general
and love of Meridian and the rich history it has!
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tylerricks@outlook.com
Tyler Ricks
Seasonal Team Lead at Walmart
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Experience
Top Skills Meridian Library District
SpeakingPublic
Trustee
Social '' • June 2021 - Present (1 month)
Politics
On the Board of Trustees for the Meridian Library District. Was the top vote
Languages getter at the May 2021 election.
English
Walmart
Certifications 3 years 1 month
Microsoft Office SpecialistWord
013 Seasonal Team Lead
April 2021 - Present (3 months)
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Eagle Scout Award Over Lawn and Garden, Horticulture, Seasonal, and Toys Departments
Walmart#5841 on Ten Mile Rd. in Meridian, Idaho.
Stock 2 Team Lead
October 2020 -April 2021 (7 months)
Walmart#2862 on Fairview Rd in Meridian, Idaho.
CAP2 Team Supervisor
August 2020 - October 2020 (3 months)
Walmart#2862 on Fairview Rd. Meridian, Idaho.
e-Commerce Department Manager
April 2019 -August 2020 (1 year 5 months)
Walmart#5841 on Ten Mile Rd. in Meridian, Idaho.
Toys Department Manager
December 2018 -April 2019 (5 months)
Walmart#5841 on Ten Mile Rd. in Meridian, Idaho.
Cap 1 Team Associate Page 8
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June 2018 - December 2018 (7 months)
Walmart#5841 on Ten Mile Rd. in Meridian, Idaho.
Associate of the Month for first shift for September 2018.
Idaho Young Republicans
5 years 1 month
Treasurer
January 2019 - January 2021 (2 years 1 month)
Social Media Coordinator
January 2016 - January 2021 (5 years 1 month)
I make sure that Idaho Young Republicans (IDYR) social media accounts on
Facebook and Twitter stay up date with current political events in Idaho and
nation wide for the Republican Party. We where able to conduct a one day
straw poll that was able to have over 1,000 responses.
Idaho Young Republicans
Secretary
January 2017 -August 2019 (2 years 8 months)
Elected unanimously at January 2017 State Convention.
Help with membership, social media, and take notes!
Visit http://www.idahoyr.com!
Raul Labrador for Idaho
Chair-Teens for Raul Labrador
March 2016 - November 2016 (9 months)
I am a volunteer who organizes and gather support for Congressman
Raul Labrador among teens, work with other grassroots coalitions across
Congressional District 1,promote Congressman Raul Labrador on personal
Facebook and Twitter, phone bank, and knock doors, organize and appoint
teen county chairs, gather campaign data.
May 17 16 Primary Results
81% District Wide
November 9 16 General Election Results
68.2% District Wide
Won reelection
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Ted Cruz for President
Idaho Chair Teens for Ted
February 2016 - May 2016 (4 months)
I am a volunteer who organizes and gather support for Ted Cruz among teens,
works with other grassroots groups across the state,promote Ted Cruz on
personal and organization Facebook and Twitter, phone bank, and knock
doors, organize , appoint campus coordinators, gather state campaign data.
Rand Paul for President
Idaho Assistant Coordinator
December 2015 - February 2016 (3 months)
I was a volunteer who held meetings with members, work with Idaho's
Students for Rand (SFR) groups across the state,promote Rand Paul on
personal and organization Facebook and Twitter, phone bank, and knock
doors.
Education
Meridian High School
High School • (2012-2017)
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Item#1.
I am interested in serving on the Historic Preservation Commission. I have been a Meridian
resident since the early 2000s. I went to Meridian Middle and graduated from Meridian High,
work as a retail supervisor here in Meridian and was just elected as Meridian Library Trustee
last month at the age of 23.
Since I've been old enough to appreciate it I love learning about history of whatever I am
around, wither thats Meridian, the West Ada School District, Idaho political history, Idaho in
general, WWII, US history, etc I love soaking up knowledge and sharing the "fun facts" on a
topic. I also collect political memorabilia just not for"locals" for Idaho candidates and parties
dating back to 1906 but also national items as well.
I would like to be on the Historic Preservation Commission to combine my love of history of
Meridian and giving back to Meridian by being on the commission and by making sure history is
preserved and shared to my generation and the generations after mine. I firmly believe the
quote "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.".
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AGENDA ITEM
ITEM TOPIC: Public Hearing for the Proposed Fall 2021 Fee Schedule of the Meridian
Parks and Recreation Department
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PUBLIC HEARING SIGN IN SHEET
DATE : July 20 , 2021 ITEM # ON AGENDA : 2
PROJECT NAME : Proposed Fall 2021 Fee Schedule of the
Meridian Parks and Recreation Department
Your Full Name Your Full Address Representing I wish to testify
( Please Print ) HOA ? ( mark X if yes )
If yes, please
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Item#2.
CITY OF MERIDIAN RESOLUTION NO.
BY THE CITY COUNCIL: BERNT,BORTON, CAVENER,
HOAGLUN,PERREAULT, STRADER
A RESOLUTION ADOPTING NEW FEES OF THE MERIDIAN PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE MERIDIAN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
TO COLLECT SUCH FEES; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS, following publication of notice in the Meridian Press on July 9, 2021 and July
16, 2021, according to the requirements of Idaho Code section 63-1311A, on July 20, 2021 the City
Council of the City of Meridian held a hearing on the adoption of proposed new fees of the
Meridian Parks and Recreation Department, as set forth in Exhibit A hereto; and
WHEREAS, following such hearing, the City Council,by formal motion, did approve said
proposed new fees of the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,IDAHO:
Section 1. That the 2021 Fall Fee Schedule of the Meridian Parks and Recreation
Department, as set forth in Exhibit A hereto, is hereby adopted.
Section 2. That the fees adopted for the 2021 Fall Activity Guide shall remain in effect as to
those classes until such classes are concluded, at which point the fees set forth in Exhibit A hereto
shall supersede any and all fees for the enumerated services previously adopted.
Section 3. That the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department is hereby authorized to
implement and carry out the collection of said fees.
Section 4. That this Resolution shall be in full force and effect immediately upon its
adoption and approval.
ADOPTED by the City Council of the City of Meridian, Idaho, this20th day of.July 2021
APPROVED by the Mayor of the City of Meridian, Idaho, this 20thday of. July 2021
APPROVED:
Robert E. Simison, Mayor
ATTEST:
Chris Johnson, City Clerk
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Item#2.
CITY OF MERIDIAN
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN,pursuant to the ordinances of the City of Meridian and the laws of
the State of Idaho, that the City Council of the City of Meridian will hold a public hearing at 6:00
p.m. on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, at Meridian City Hall, 33 East Broadway Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, regarding proposed new and amended fees as set forth below. Further information is
available at the Parks &Recreation Department at Meridian City Hall, 33 East Broadway Avenue,
Meridian, Idaho. Any and all interested persons shall be heard at the public hearing. Written
testimony is welcome; written materials should be submitted to the City Clerk. All testimony and
materials presented shall become property of the City of Meridian. For auditory, visual, or
language accommodations, please contact the City Clerk's Office at (208) 888-4433 at least 48
hours prior to the public hearing. Proposed new or amended fees:
EXHIBIT A
2021 Fall Activi Guide Class Fees:
Dazzle & Dance Classes $30.00 - $35.00
Rec 1 Cheer $30.00 - $35.00
Rec 2 Cheer $30.00 - $35.00
Rec 3 Cheer $35.00 - $40.00
Intermediate Rec Cheer $35.00 - $40.00
Youth 1.1 Cheer $45.00 - $50.00
Junior 2.2 Cheer $45.00 - $50.00
Tumble & Twist (Mommy&Me) $25.00 - $30.00
Tumble & Twist(Independent) $30.00 - $35.00
Tumbling (Beginning) $30.00 - $35.00
Tumbling (Intermediate) $35.00 - $40.00
Capoeira $30.00 - $35.00
Kendo-Japanese Fencing $35.00 - $70.00
Introduction to the sport of Fencing $100.00
Amazing Athletes $64.00
Martial Arts for all Ages $40.00
Time Travel Camp $85.00
Mystery Investigators Camp $85.00
Space Camp $85.00
Rain Forest Adventure Camp $85.00
Little Pallets Art Classes $15.00 - $80.00
Zumbini $120.00
Introduction to Rock Climbing $200.00
CPR Class $50.00
Vj's Elite Basketball Training $100.00
Yoga-All Levels $42.00
Yoga-Gentle Yoga $42.00
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Item#2.
Yoga—Beyond the Basics $42.00
Yoga—Unlimited Yoga $54.00
Somatic Yoga& Gentle Stretch $42.00
Yin&Restorative Yoga $10.00
Jazzercise $45.00 - $60.00
Pickeball 101 $80.00
Line Dancing—Beginner $24.00 - $30.00
Line Dancing—Improver $24.00 - $30.00
Line Dancing—Intermediate $24.00 - $30.00
Line Dancing—Option days $66.00
Intermediate 2-step $40.00 - $50.00
West Coast Swing $40.00 - $50.00
Intro to Dance $40.00 - $50.00
North African Dance Fitness $40.00
Digital Photography 101 $70.00
Advanced Photo Techniques $70.00
Half Day Whitewater Rafting $60.00
Full Day Whitewater Rafting $105.00
McCall Lake Cruise $40.00
DATED this day of , 2021.
Chris Johnson, CITY CLERK
PUBLISH on July 9 and July 16
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AGENDA ITEM
ITEM TOPIC: Resolution No. 21-2275: A Resolution Adopting the Fall 2021 Fee Schedule of
the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department; Authorizing the Meridian Parks and Recreation
Department to Collect Such Fees; and Providing an Effective Date
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CITY OF MERIDIAN RESOLUTION NO. 21-2275
BY THE CITY COUNCIL: BERNT,BORTON, CAVENER,
HOAGLUN,PERREAULT, STRADER
A RESOLUTION ADOPTING NEW FEES OF THE MERIDIAN PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT; AUTHORIZING THE MERIDIAN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
TO COLLECT SUCH FEES; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WHEREAS, following publication of notice in the Meridian Press on July 9, 2021 and July
16, 2021, according to the requirements of Idaho Code section 63-1311A, on July 20, 2021 the City
Council of the City of Meridian held a hearing on the adoption of proposed new fees of the
Meridian Parks and Recreation Department, as set forth in Exhibit A hereto; and
WHEREAS, following such hearing, the City Council,by formal motion, did approve said
proposed new fees of the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department;
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,IDAHO:
Section 1. That the 2021 Fall Fee Schedule of the Meridian Parks and Recreation
Department, as set forth in Exhibit A hereto, is hereby adopted.
Section 2. That the fees adopted for the 2021 Fall Activity Guide shall remain in effect as to
those classes until such classes are concluded, at which point the fees set forth in Exhibit A hereto
shall supersede any and all fees for the enumerated services previously adopted.
Section 3. That the Meridian Parks and Recreation Department is hereby authorized to
implement and carry out the collection of said fees.
Section 4. That this Resolution shall be in full force and effect immediately upon its
adoption and approval.
ADOPTED by the City Council of the City of Meridian, Idaho, this 20thday of. July 2021
APPROVED by the Mayor of the City of Meridian, Idaho, this 20th day of July 2021
APPROVED:
Robert E. Simison,. Mayor
ATTEST:
Chris Johnson, City Clerk
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CITY OF MERIDIAN
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN,pursuant to the ordinances of the City of Meridian and the laws of
the State of Idaho, that the City Council of the City of Meridian will hold a public hearing at 6:00
p.m. on Tuesday, July 20, 2021, at Meridian City Hall, 33 East Broadway Avenue, Meridian,
Idaho, regarding proposed new and amended fees as set forth below. Further information is
available at the Parks &Recreation Department at Meridian City Hall, 33 East Broadway Avenue,
Meridian, Idaho. Any and all interested persons shall be heard at the public hearing. Written
testimony is welcome; written materials should be submitted to the City Clerk. All testimony and
materials presented shall become property of the City of Meridian. For auditory, visual, or
language accommodations, please contact the City Clerk's Office at (208) 888-4433 at least 48
hours prior to the public hearing. Proposed new or amended fees:
EXHIBIT A
2021 Fall Activi Guide Class Fees:
Dazzle & Dance Classes $30.00 - $35.00
Rec 1 Cheer $30.00 - $35.00
Rec 2 Cheer $30.00 - $35.00
Rec 3 Cheer $35.00 - $40.00
Intermediate Rec Cheer $35.00 - $40.00
Youth 1.1 Cheer $45.00 - $50.00
Junior 2.2 Cheer $45.00 - $50.00
Tumble & Twist (Mommy&Me) $25.00 - $30.00
Tumble & Twist(Independent) $30.00 - $35.00
Tumbling (Beginning) $30.00 - $35.00
Tumbling (Intermediate) $35.00 - $40.00
Capoeira $30.00 - $35.00
Kendo-Japanese Fencing $35.00 - $70.00
Introduction to the sport of Fencing $100.00
Amazing Athletes $64.00
Martial Arts for all Ages $40.00
Time Travel Camp $85.00
Mystery Investigators Camp $85.00
Space Camp $85.00
Rain Forest Adventure Camp $85.00
Little Pallets Art Classes $15.00 - $80.00
Zumbini $120.00
Introduction to Rock Climbing $200.00
CPR Class $50.00
Vj's Elite Basketball Training $100.00
Yoga-All Levels $42.00
Yoga-Gentle Yoga $42.00
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Yoga—Beyond the Basics $42.00
Yoga—Unlimited Yoga $54.00
Somatic Yoga& Gentle Stretch $42.00
Yin&Restorative Yoga $10.00
Jazzercise $45.00 - $60.00
Pickleball 101 $80.00
Line Dancing—Beginner $24.00 - $30.00
Line Dancing—Improver $24.00 - $30.00
Line Dancing—Intermediate $24.00 - $30.00
Line Dancing—Option days $66.00
Intermediate 2-step $40.00 - $50.00
West Coast Swing $40.00 - $50.00
Intro to Dance $40.00 - $50.00
North African Dance Fitness $40.00
Digital Photography 101 $70.00
Advanced Photo Techniques $70.00
Half Day Whitewater Rafting $60.00
Full Day Whitewater Rafting $105.00
McCall Lake Cruise $40.00
DATED this day of , 2021.
Chris Johnson, CITY CLERK
PUBLISH on July 9 and July 16
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ITEM TOPIC: Public Hearing for Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Program
Year 2021 Action Plan
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Updates to PY19 Pg . 51 Updated chart to include the public comments
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Contents
ExecutiveSummary.......................................................................................................................................1
AP-05 Executive Summary-24 CFR 91.200(c),91.220(b)........................................................................1
PR-05 Lead&Responsible Agencies—91.200(b)......................................................................................4
AP-10 Consultation—91.100,91.200(b),91.215(I)...................................................................................5
AP-12 Participation—91.105,91.200(c).................................................................................................20
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AP-15 Expected Resources—91.220(c)(1,2)...........................................................................................24
AnnualGoals and Obiectives......................................................................................................................27
AP-20 Annual Goals and Obiectives........................................................................................................27
AP-35 Projects—91.220(d).......................................................................................................4.............30
AP-38 Project Summary..........................................................................................................................32
AP-50 Geographic Distribution—91.220(f).........................................................................................38.1w
AffordableHousing.....................................................................................................................................39
AP-55 Affordable Housing—91.220(g)...................................................................................................39
AP-60 Public Housing—91.220(h)...........................................................................................................39
AP-65 Homeless and Other Special Needs Activities—91.220(i)............................................................41
AP-75 Barriers to affordable housing—91.220(i)...............................................................................464-5
AP-85 Other Actions—91.220(k)........................................................................................................4746
Program Specific Requirements..................................................................................................................50
AP-90 Program Specific Requirements—91.220(I)(1,2,4)......................................................................50
Citizen Participation Comments.........................................................................................................53§2
GranteeUnique Appendices...............................................................................................................55-54
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Community Development Block Grant(CDBG)
PY21 Action Plan
Executive Summary
AP-05 Executive Summary- 24 CFR 91.2OO(c), 91.22O(b)
1. Introduction
The City of Meridian was designated an Entitlement Community by the U.S.Department of Housing and
Urban Development(HUD)in 2007.This designation allows the City to receive funds directly from HUD's
Community Development Block Grant(CDBG)Program on an annual basis.The City is currently working
under the regulatory Five-Year Consolidated Plan(Con Plan)for program years 2017-2021.The Con Plan
describes the anticipated strategies,goals,and community development needs identified during a
collaborative process that included input from community members and local entities.
This Action Plan is for the final year of the 2017-2021 Con Plan and will provide direction to the City of
Meridian CDBG Program(Program)for Program Year 2021(PY21)which spans from October 1,2021—
September 30,2022.The PY21 Action Plan provides a summary of the actions,activities,and resources
that will be used during PY21 to address the goals and priority needs identified in the 2017-2021 Con
Plan.
2. Summarize the objectives and outcomes identified in the Plan
The City is focusing its activities and funding during PY21 on 1)improving accessibility by prioritizing
projects that improve residents'access to public facilities and community resources;2)enhancing
homeownership opportunities by obtaining or maintaining homes that are affordable;3)promoting fair
housing,and 4)providing social services that provide stability to Meridian residents with a low to
moderate income.
3. Evaluation of past performance
Since 2007,Meridian has successfully managed over$4.7 million in resources from its annual CDBG
allocation.Over the years,the City's expenditures from its CDBG allocation have focused on supporting
social service provider operations such as the Meridian Food Bank,improving community facilities for
organizations such as the Boys and Girls Club and Meridian Development Corporation;addressing
accessibility barriers to places such as parks and trails,Meridian Libraries,and sidewalk projects;
preventing homelessness with emergency assistance through The Jesse Tree of Idaho;and assisting with
homeownership attainment for low-and moderate-income buyers through the Ada County Housing
Authority and NeighborWorks Boise.
The City has submitted Consolidated Annual Performance and Evaluation Reports(CAPERs)for all
previous program years.The CAPERs demonstrate that the City exceeds the statutory requirement of at
least 70 percent of funds expended being invested in activities that benefit low to moderate-income
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individuals and families.Aside from Program Year 2016,the City has met its expenditure of grant funds
deadlines imposed by HUD each year.
All of the prior program years'activities meet critical needs in Meridian.The primary challenges
encountered during the last Consolidated Plan period were timing and contract related.To address
these challenges,the City has implemented more stringent requirements for subrecipients,particularly
in meeting expected schedules.Over the several years,the City has been effective at organizing,
streamlining,and managing its CDBG processes to provide the most benefit for each CDBG dollar
granted while complying with federal timeliness requirements.
4. Summary of Citizen Participation Process and consultation process
The citizen participation process for the PY21 Action Plan followed the process identified in the City's
Citizen Participation Plan,adopted with the 2017-2021 Con Plan.Public comments were accepted from
June 11,2021 to July 20,2021 with a public hearing being held on July 20,2021.The City published legal
notices in two local newspapers(Idaho Statesman and Meridian Press Tribune)and posted the draft
Action Plan on the City's website on June 11,2021.Presentations of the draft Action Plan and included
projects were provided to stakeholders at the City Council meetings on July 6,2021 and July 20,2021.
To broaden public participation in the development of the plan,the City coordinated with several
organizations that work with LMI populations to gain a better understanding of the community needs
and identify projects that would be beneficial to the residents of Meridian.The feedback received
supported the goals and strategies identified in the 2017-2021 Con Plan.Invitations to apply were
provided through e-mails,phone calls,and publication announcements on the City website,Boise
City/Ada County Continuum of Care(CoC)distribution list,Region 4 Behavioral Health Board distribution
list,and in the local newspapers.
S. Summary of public comments
The City received one comment in support of the Program
and four comments from Council regarding housing affordability and how the CDBG Program can
provide more support to address the City's housing needs. This included discussions about the
upcoming Housing Market Analysis that will be conducted during the Consolidated Plan process.
6. Summary of comments or views not accepted and the reasons for not accepting them
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7. Summary
The City of Meridian has collaborated with stakeholders throughout the community to develop the PY21
Action Plan in a manner that is consistent with the goals and strategies identified in the 2017-2021 Con
Plan,which remains relevant to the current needs of the community. The City plans to continue
improving the Program based on feedback from the community to ensure the intent of the Program
continues to be met.
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PY21 Action Plan
PR-05 Lead& Responsible Agencies— 91.200(b)
1. Agency/entity responsible for preparing/administering the Consolidated Plan
Describe the agency/entity responsible for preparing the Consolidated Plan and those responsible for administration of each grant
program and funding source.
Agency Role Name Department/Agency
CDBG Administrator MERIDIAN Economic Development,Community Development Dept.
Table 1—Responsible Agencies
Narrative(optional)
The Meridian CDBG Program is part of the City of Meridian's Community Development Department and falls under the Economic Development
Division. The Program works closely with Planning Division staff and Economic Development Division staff as well as other Departments in the
City such as Public Works,Finance,and Parks and Recreation.
Consolidated Plan Public Contact Information
Crystal Campbell,Community Development Program Coordinator
Community Development Department
City of Meridian
33 E.Broadway Avenue
Meridian,ID 83642
208-489-0575
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AP-10 Consultation- 91.100, 91.2OO(b), 91.215(1)
1. Introduction
The City of Meridian engages stakeholders via social media,email,and the City's website. Community
stakeholders include,but are not limited to:citizens of Meridian;current and past CDBG subrecipients;
Idaho Housing and Finance Association(IHFA);Idaho Department of Health and Welfare(Divisions of
Behavioral Health,Medicaid,and Public Health);Central District Health Department;Meridian
Downtown Business Association;Region 4 Behavioral Health Board;Our Path Home Connect
(coordinated entry);Region 4 Crisis Center;and Boise City/Ada County Continuum of Care
(CoC). Agencies were identified for participation in the PY21 Meridian CDBG competitive application
based on the needs and priorities identified during the 2017-2021 Con Plan planning process.
Provide a concise summary of the jurisdiction's activities to enhance coordination between
public and assisted housing providers and private and governmental health,mental health
and service agencies(91.215(1))
The City collaborated with the Ada County Housing Authority(ACHA),which is the local public housing
authority,to assist the City in better understanding ACHA's resources and needs.While there are no
public housing units in Meridian,an estimated 10 percent of the housing authority's total voucher
supply are used within Meridian City limits.
ACHA and the City are both involved with the CoC.The CoC meetings provide an opportunity to
collaborate with regional and local housing providers(public,nonprofit,and private)and health and
social service agencies(including private and non-profit mental health,emergency,and healthcare
providers).
During PY18 the City and CoC connected with the Region 4 Behavioral Health Board(BHB),a
government entity established by the State of Idaho in coordination with Idaho Health and Welfare.The
BHB advises the State Behavioral Health Authority and the State Planning Council of the needs in this
region and is facilitated by Central District Health(CDH).This collaboration provides access to a large
number of agencies and citizens with expertise in mental health services,substance use disorders,law
enforcement,education,and healthcare.City staff continues to be engaged with the BHB to identify
ways to enhance coordination between ACHA and healthcare providers,mental health services,and
other supportive service agencies.
CDH also provides information related to housing units in which children have been identified as being
lead poisoned concerning lead-based paint hazards,but since the majority of houses in Meridian were
built after 1980 this has not been a concern.
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Additionally,the City has developed a socioeconomic profile of Meridian that will identify gaps in
service,likely partnerships,and needs of the community.The City is dedicated to extending further
support to organizations that help to meet the identified needs of the community.One need that is
readily apparent is the need for housing affordability and rental support.Meridian is dedicated to
increasing its inventory of housing that is affordable to ensure residents of all income levels can find
housing in Meridian and to provide necessary supportive services.City staff will continue to stay
engaged with the housing affordability and supportive service community so the City can better provide
important tools and resources to affordable housing developers and supportive service providers.
Describe coordination with the Continuum of Care and efforts to address the needs of
homeless persons(particularly chronically homeless individuals and families,families with
children,veterans,and unaccompanied youth)and persons at risk of homelessness.
The City participates in the CoC,locally branded as Our Path Home Connect,which includes staff
members from neighboring communities along with healthcare,foster care and other youth programs,
mental health providers,Ada County,law enforcement,nonprofit providers,state departments and
school districts among other entities.In 2017 Our Path Home Connect launched coordinated entry
which provides a single point of entry for households experiencing homelessness.Due to the data
collected through coordinated entry,Our Path Home Connect has identified four strategic initiatives:
end family homelessness,prevent first-time homelessness,expand supportive housing opportunities,
and evolve the partnership.The involvement of foster care and other youth programs has encouraged
the City to further evaluate the non-traditional homelessness experienced by youth and their families in
Meridian.
The City has also updated internal policies to include a representative from the CoC to provide feedback
on the current needs to the CDBG Scoring Committee,which reviews applications for CDBG funding and
recommends projects to be funded.This collaboration provides an opportunity to involve the CoC in the
planning process and identify projects that will address the needs of those who are currently or at risk of
homelessness.
Additionally,the City acts as a liaison between the Behavioral Health Board(BHB)and the CoC.The BHB
is facilitated by Central District Health(CDH)and is comprised of 23 stakeholders,advocates,and
professionals including the Idaho Department of Corrections for adults,Boise Police Department,Adult
Mental Health staff that are responsible for discharging participants from state run psychiatric facilities,
and Children's Mental Health staff that work with families in crisis.Involvement with this group allows
the City to understand the broader needs of the community as related to behavioral health in general
and specifically for those who are being discharged from institutional settings such as mental health
facilities and corrections programs.
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Describe consultation with the Continuum(s)of Care that serves the jurisdiction's area in
determining how to allocate ESG funds,develop performance standards for and evaluate
outcomes of projects and activities assisted by ESG funds,and develop funding,policies and
procedures for the operation and administration of HMIS
The City of Meridian does not receive ESG funds;the state is the only recipient.Allocation of ESG is
discussed at the CoC meetings,which Meridian staff attend.The City leverages the CoC's strategy for
use of ESG funds by funding homeless prevention activities.The City does not have any emergency
shelters and the RRH program serves countywide.The City continues its work with the Executive and
Data and Performance Management Committees of the CoC to provide feedback on changes to the
HMIS and data management process of the CoC.
2. Describe Agencies,groups,organizations and others who participated in the process
and describe the jurisdiction's consultations with housing,social service agencies and other
entities
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Table 2—Agencies,groups,organizations who participated
1 Agency/Group/Organization Boise City/Ada County Continuum of Care
Agency/Group/Organization Type Housing
PHA
Services-Housing
Services-Children
Services-Elderly Persons
Services-Victims of Domestic Violence
Services-homeless
Services-Health
Services-Education
Services-Employment
Service-Fair Housing
Services-Victims
Health Agency
Child Welfare Agency
Publicly Funded Institution/System of Care
Other government-State
Other government-Local
Regional organization
Planning organization
What section of the Plan was addressed by Homeless Needs-Chronically homeless
Consultation? Homeless Needs-Families with children
Homelessness Needs-Veterans
Homelessness Needs-Unaccompanied youth
Homelessness Strategy
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Briefly describe how the The CoC was consulted as part of the 2017 Consolidated Planning efforts as well
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What as during the current action planning efforts. Members of this group represent
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation all of the agency/group/organization types listed above and assists the City in
or areas for improved coordination? understanding the needs of the community as it relates to housing,
homelessness,and fair housing.This consultation was effective in helping the City
develop funding recommendations to address homelessness,homelessness
prevention,and fair housing activities.
2 Agency/Group/Organization Boise City/Ada County Housing Authority(BCACHA)
Agency/Group/Organization Type Housing
PHA
Services-Housing
Regional organization
What section of the Plan was addressed by Housing Need Assessment
Consultation? Public Housing Needs
Homeless Needs-Chronically homeless
Homeless Needs-Families with children
Homelessness Needs-Veterans
Homelessness Needs-Unaccompanied youth
Homelessness Strategy
Non-Homeless Special Needs
HOPWA Strategy
Market Analysis
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Briefly describe how the ACHA was contacted by the City to discuss the viability of its homebuyer
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What assistance program in the midst of a difficult housing market.These discussions
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation helped the City develop funding recommendation for continuing to provide CDBG
or areas for improved coordination? dollars to ACHA for down payment assistance.This consultation also led to a
discussion about housing development and policies that may change how the City
interacts and funds these efforts in the future.
3 Agency/Group/Organization West Ada School District No.2
Agency/Group/Organization Type Services-homeless
Services-Health
Services-Education
Publicly Funded Institution/System of Care
What section of the Plan was addressed by Homeless Needs-Families with children
Consultation? Homelessness Needs-Unaccompanied youth
Homelessness Strategy
Non-Homeless Special Needs
Briefly describe how the The City discussed the needs of homeless and unaccompanied youth in
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What Meridian's public education system with the West Ada School District.
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation Conversations led to the City's understanding of the number of unaccompanied
or areas for improved coordination? youth in the school system with relatively limited resources and services available
to these students and their families.The City identified gaps in services and will
continue to work with the West Ada School District to develop a plan to fill those
gaps.
4 Agency/Group/Organization CATCH, INC.
Agency/Group/Organization Type Housing
Services-Housing
Services-homeless
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What section of the Plan was addressed by Housing Need Assessment
Consultation? Homeless Needs-Chronically homeless
Homeless Needs-Families with children
Homelessness Needs-Veterans
Homelessness Needs-Unaccompanied youth
Homelessness Strategy
Non-Homeless Special Needs
Briefly describe how the The City meets often with CATCH to discuss the state of homelessness in
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What Meridian.CATCH currently houses the coordinated entry efforts of the County
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation and is tracking data related to Meridian's homeless population.These
or areas for improved coordination? consultations clarify the need for certain support in Meridian and helping to
develop a short-and long-term strategy to meet the needs of those experiencing
homelessness in Meridian and across the County.
5 Agency/Group/Organization City of Meridian
Agency/Group/Organization Type Other government-Local
Planning organization
Civic Leaders
Grantee Department
What section of the Plan was addressed by Housing Need Assessment
Consultation? Market Analysis
Economic Development
Anti-poverty Strategy
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Briefly describe how the The City regularly consults with the Mayor's Office,Department of Community
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What Development,Planning Division,Economic Development officials,Finance
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation Department,Public Works Department,and law enforcement officials to explore
or areas for improved coordination? and operationalize the needs of community members in Meridian. Much of the
conversation during the consultations surrounding the Action Plan deals with
housing needs,wage growth,vacancy and affordability rates of housing,
identifying households and areas that may be affected by lead-based paint
requirements,and work to address poverty in the community.Many of these
conversations are still in their preliminary stage and have not directly created
outcomes or improved coordination,but work continues to plan and strategize to
develop 1)incentives for affordable housing development;2)partnerships to
address service gaps in Meridian;3)a clear plan/strategy to increase workforce
housing developments;4)a new City Comprehensive Plan that better-addresses
and plans for the needs of LMI residents,including those experiencing
homelessness;and 5)a socioeconomic profile of the City.All of these will offer
insight,strategy,and structure to the City's community development efforts in
the coming years.
6 Agency/Group/Organization THE JESSE TREE OF IDAHO,INC.
Agency/Group/Organization Type Services-Housing
Services-homeless
What section of the Plan was addressed by Non-Homeless Special Needs
Consultation?
Briefly describe how the The Jesse Tree was consulted to discuss the possibility to expand their emergency
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What rental assistance program in Meridian.They provided insights and clarity into the
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation need for their program due to continually rising rents across the City.This
or areas for improved coordination? consultation contributed to an expansion of CDBG funding that will be given to
this organization for homelessness prevention services.
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7 Agency/Group/Organization UNITED WAY OF TREASURE VALLEY
Agency/Group/Organization Type Planning organization
Foundation
What section of the Plan was addressed by Housing Need Assessment
Consultation? Anti-poverty Strategy
Briefly describe how the The United Way was consulted in efforts to create a Socioeconomic Profile of
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What Meridian in an effort to better understand the housing,transportation,health,
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation food,financial,and education needs of Meridian's residents.This partnership is
or areas for improved coordination? ongoing and will likely result in funding provided to the City by this organization
to conduct research and create plans to understand and meet these needs.
8 Agency/Group/Organization City of Boise
Agency/Group/Organization Type Other government-Local
What section of the Plan was addressed by Homelessness Strategy
Consultation? Non-Homeless Special Needs
Market Analysis
Economic Development
Anti-poverty Strategy
Administrative
Briefly describe how the The City regularly consults with the City of Boise to ensure that funding
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What recommendations,administrative practices,and other activities are compliant
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation with federal regulations.The coordination also reflects a shared goal to ensure
or areas for improved coordination? that all activities undertaken with CDBG funds work to meet regional needs as
well as local needs.
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9 Agency/Group/Organization Neighborworks Boise
Agency/Group/Organization Type Services-Housing
Service-Fair Housing
Major Employer
What section of the Plan was addressed by Homelessness Strategy
Consultation? Non-Homeless Special Needs
Briefly describe how the The City worked with NeighborWorks Boise to discuss the viability of a
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What homeowner rehabilitation program in Meridian.
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation
or areas for improved coordination?
10 Agency/Group/Organization Idaho Fair Housing Forum
Agency/Group/Organization Type Service-Fair Housing
What section of the Plan was addressed by Fair Housing
Consultation?
Briefly describe how the The City meets with this group to consult on how to advance the fair housing
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What work of the City and region.These consultations have brought forth fair housing
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation trainings and conferences educating over 1000 people about fair housing law and
or areas for improved coordination? practice.These meetings also inform how the City will implement its strategies to
affirmatively further fair housing.
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11 Agency/Group/Organization Neighbors United Collaborative
Agency/Group/Organization Type Services-Housing
Services-Health
Services-Education
Services-Employment
Service-Fair Housing
Services-Refugees
What section of the Plan was addressed by Non-Homeless Special Needs
Consultation? Fair Housing
Briefly describe how the The City regularly consults with this group to understand how to address the
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What needs of LMI refugees in Meridian.Much of the discussion leading up to the
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation development of this Annual Action Plan has been around fair housing and
or areas for improved coordination? language access services in the community.The City is working with this and
other groups to develop resources and materials that can better educate about
fair housing best practices while providing refugees and others facing housing
discrimination support to overcome negative situations.
12 Agency/Group/Organization Idaho Apartment Association
Agency/Group/Organization Type Services-Housing
Business and Civic Leaders
What section of the Plan was addressed by Non-Homeless Special Needs
Consultation? Fair Housing
Briefly describe how the The City consults,as needed,with this organization to get the private-sector
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What perspective on micro and macro issues in the world of housing and fair housing.
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation These consultations have often informed the conversations and decisions taken
or areas for improved coordination? to and made by Neighbors United,Idaho Fair Housing Forum,and the CoC's Fair
Housing Subcommittee.
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13 Agency/Group/Organization Region 4 Behavioral Health Board
Agency/Group/Organization Type Services-Housing
Services-Children
Services-Elderly Persons
Services-Persons with Disabilities
Services-Victims of Domestic Violence
Services-Health
Services-Education
Services-Victims
Health Agency
Child Welfare Agency
Publicly Funded Institution/System of Care
Other government-State
Other government-Local
Regional organization
Planning organization
Business Leaders
Civic Leaders
What section of the Plan was addressed by Non-Homeless Special Needs
Consultation?
Briefly describe how the The BHB was consulted as part of the current action planning efforts.Members of
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What this group represent all of the agency/group/organization types listed above and
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation assists the City in understanding the needs of the community as it relates to
or areas for improved coordination? people with mental health and substance use disorders.This consultation was
effective in helping the City develop funding recommendations to address
economic stability for people with disabilities.
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Ann nay/G Fou pjg Fganizatie n Type Regional a .+inn
DI, Rg n+i.
Non Homeless Special Needs
Cong—Rat4),42
Briefly describe hew+hp The Gity rnn.-WI+S With+hiS gFE)UP+n the Reeds..F diverse populations�n
n the antiGilpaFnd autrn Mes of the caRs,.IF-.+inn
1-4 Agency/Group/Organization Central District Health
Agency/Group/Organization Type Services-Health
Services-Education
Services-Victims
Health Agency
Publicly Funded Institution/System of Care
Other government-Local
Regional organization
Planning organization
What section of the Plan was addressed by Public Housing Needs
Consultation? Homeless Needs-Chronically homeless
Homeless Needs-Families with children
Homelessness Needs-Veterans
Homelessness Needs-Unaccompanied youth
Homelessness Strategy
Non-Homeless Special Needs
HOPWA Strategy
Lead-based Paint Strategy
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Briefly describe how the Consulted with CDH regarding strategies related to lead-based paint,
Agency/Group/Organization was consulted.What transportation options in Meridian,and health disparities related to Meridian's
are the anticipated outcomes of the consultation LMI residents.
or areas for improved coordination?
Identify any Agency Types not consulted and provide rationale for not consulting
Not applicable;every agency identified was offered an opportunity to participate in the development of the plan.While no agencies were left
out,the City does not have a citizen's advisory group to consult with.Citizens are requested to participate in public hearings and public
presentations via social media and local newspapers,but there is no formal group.To gather citizen input specific to the slum and blighted area
where CDBG funds are to be used,the City contacted residents who live in that area directly while the Redevelopment Plan was being developed
and again when the Redevelopment Plan was being approved.Residents were also informed of the potential projects in this area during the
development of the plan as well as the CDBG process of selecting projects annually.Invitations for public presentations related to the Action
Plan and Project Applications were then sent out by email and social media.
Moving forward,the City would like to improve its coordination with housing developers,particularly those developers who specialize in the
development of workforce and affordable housing.Increased efforts were not made this year to reach out to these groups as the City is still
working to develop internal strategies and plans about how it wants to address the housing affordability needs in the community and how to
engage developers in that process.The City is also developing a new Comprehensive Plan that includes consultants doing consultations in the
coming months.The decision was made to couple the needed consultation efforts of these Community Development activities with
comprehensive planning consultation activities.
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Other local/regional/state/federal planning efforts considered when preparing the Plan
Name of Plan Lead Organization How do the goals of your Strategic Plan overlap with the goals of each plan?
The City maintains goals of improving economic outcomes of low income residents,
Idaho Housing and providing emergency rental assistance,and improving housing options and social and
Continuum of Care Finance Association,Ada supportive services for people including but not limited to people with special needs and
County,City of Boise individuals/families leaving domestic violence situations.These will contribute to the CoC
objective of Ending Chronic Homelessness by preventing Meridian residents from falling
into homelessness.
Idaho Housing and The fair housing strategies established for Meridian considered opportunities to
State of Idaho Finance Association; collaborate with the State.The City regularly involves representatives from IHFA,City of
Analysis of Idaho Department of Boise,City of Nampa,City of Caldwell,and Idaho Department of Commerce in the
Impediments Commerce planning,funding,and implementation efforts of fair housing activities in the region and
state.
Meridian Meridian Planning The City Comprehensive Plan was consulted during preparation of the Consolidated Plan
Comprehensive Plan Division to ensure goals were consistent with the needs and desires of the community.Land use
and zoning regulations were reviewed to assess barriers to housing choice.
ACHA Policies and ACHA The housing authority policies and procedures were reviewed to ensure they support
Procedures housing choice and address the greatest needs of low income residents.
Table 3—Other local/regional/federal planning efforts
Narrative(optional)
The City is working with various stakeholders throughout the region to develop a comprehensive Action Plan,which will improve collaboration
between entities,thereby reducing the duplication of efforts and using limited time and resources more effectively.
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AP-12 Participation— 91.105, 91.200(c)
1. Summary of citizen participation process/Efforts made to broaden citizen participation
Summarize citizen participation process and how it impacted goal-setting
In 2017,the City completed an extensive citizen participation procedure to gain public guidance and information for the 2017-2021 Consolidated
Plan.The findings of those efforts have informed the priorities,needs,and goals entirely.During the consolidated planning process,the
feedback received from public surveys,stakeholder interviews,and other public feedback created the framework for which all CDBG goals and
action plans will be based on.The City has the goal to use the public feedback from the Con Plan to inform funding decisions proposed in this
and subsequent annual action plans.
In addition to the consolidated plan citizen participation processes,the City has undergone all federally required citizen participation
requirements for this action plan.The City encouraged participation in developing and implementing the plan with not only low-and moderate-
income persons but also with local and regional institutions,the Continuum of Care,businesses,developers,non-profits,community members,
and F,mth harpdfaith-based organizations.These include a minimum 30-day public comment period with a formal public hearing during that
comment period.The City published legal notices in two local newspapers(Idaho Statesman and Meridian Press)and posted the PY20 Draft
Action Plan on the City's website.Staff worked with the City's Communication Department to share information regarding the recommended
projects and priorities for the upcoming year as well as the public comment period and public hearing.The Communication Department shares
information via Facebook,Twitter,Instagram,Linkedln,Nextdoor,and a City-wide distribution list.CDBG staff also maintains a distribution list
specific to those who have shown interest in CDBG and the same information was sent to that distribution list as well as several partner
organizations distribution lists.All comments received were reviewed,acknowledged,and included as an attachment to this plan.
The CDBG Public Service Scoring Committee was responsible for scoring,ranking,and providing funding recommendations for public service
applications submitted.This Committee consisted of the following representatives:
•Two(2)to four(4)Meridian residents;
•One(1)Finance Department staff;
•One(1)City Council member;
•One(1)Community Development Department staff;and
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•One(1)Mayor's Office staff.
As part of the scoring process,a member of the CoC reviews the public service applications and provides feedback on how the proposed projects
meet the needs of the community and past history with the applying agency,if applicable.This multi-perspective approach to project funding
recommendations allows the City to incorporate the viewpoints of a wide representation of interests throughout the community to better
embody the needs of Meridian.The largest representation was intentionally Meridian residents to encourage the public to more actively
participate in determining the path of the Program in the coming year.
Citizen Participation Outreach
Sort Order Mode of Outreach Target of Outreach Summary of Summary of Summary of comments URL(If
response/attendance comments received not accepted applicable)
and reasons
Non-
A public hearing was held at the City
1 Public Hearing targeted/broad update update
community Council meeting on
July 20.
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Sort Order Mode of Outreach Target of Outreach Summary of Summary of Summary of comments URL(If
response/attendance comments received not accepted applicable)
and reasons
Public meetings were
held during the City
Council meetings on
July 6 and 20.
Meetings included
Non-
outlined the presentations that
2 Public Meeting targeted/broad update update
community applications received,
funding
recommendations,
specific projects,and
discussion by Council
on the proposed
projects.
Legal notices were
published in the
Idaho Statesman and
Meridian Press
Non- Tribune newspapers
3 Newspaper Ad targeted/broad on June 11 that update update
community described the public
presentations,
comment period,and
hearing regarding this
plan.
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Sort Order Mode of Outreach Target of Outreach Summary of Summary of Summary of comments URL(If
response/attendance comments received not accepted applicable)
and reasons
Notices of the public
comment period and
Non-
sent out using the public hearing were
4 Internet Outreach targeted/broad update update
community City's social media
accounts(Facebook,
Twitter,Instagram,
Linkedln,Nextdoor).
Minorities
Notices of the public
Persons with comment period and
disabilities public hearing were
sent out using
Non-
multiple distribution
5 Email targeted/broad lists including that of update update
the Meridian CDBG
community
Program,Mayor's
Residents of Public Office,Behavioral
and Assisted Health Board,CoC
and ACHA.
Housing
Table 4—Citizen Participation Outreach
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Expected Resources
AP-15 Expected Resources- 91.220(c)(1,2)
Introduction
The City of Meridian anticipates receiving$501,559 in CDBG funds for PY21 and will be reallocating an additional$95,687 in PY20 funds. The
City will leverage staff time to complete projects implemented by the City. The majority of CDBG projects are implemented by subrecipients and
the City expects funds to be leveraged with CDBG funds to improve the outcome of the project.
Anticipated Resources
Program Source of Uses of Funds Expected Amount Available Year 1 Expected Narrative Description
Funds Annual Program Prior Year Total: Amount
Allocation: Income: Resources: $ Available
$ $ $ Remainder
of ConPlan
CDBG public- Acquisition The City will be reallocating$95,687
federal Admin and of PY20 funds.
Planning
Economic This is the final year of the Con Plan,
Development so the City will not receive any
Housing additional funding under this Con
Public Plan.
Improvements
Public Services 501,559 0 95,687 597,246 0
Table 5-Expected Resources—Priority Table
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Explain how federal funds will leverage those additional resources(private,state and local funds),including a description of how
matching requirements will be satisfied
The City of Meridian does not receive funding for HUD programs other than CDBG and there are no additional state or federal funds available to
leverage for program activities.The City uses local funds to leverage staff time to implement all CDBG activities.
The projects identified below anticipates leveraging the following resources:
• Boys&Girls Club—private funds to administer the scholarship program and provide additional scholarships to those who are unable to access
CDBG funding;
•City of Meridian—local funds to pay staff salaries;
•Jesse Tree of Idaho—private funds will be used to administer the program and provide additional assistance to those who are unable to access
CDBG funding.
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If appropriate,describe pubI+Ealfy up blicly owned land or property located within the
jurisdiction that may be used to address the needs identified in the plan
There are currently no pubFiealiy up blicly owned lands within Meridian that have been identified to
specifically address needs of the Con Plan or the Action Plan.
Discussion
The City and its subrecipients will work to leverage funding and in-kind resources to help maximize the
usage of CDBG funding.
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Annual Goals and Objectives
AP-20 Annual Goals and Objectives
Goals Summary Information
Sort Goal Name Start End Category Geographic Needs Addressed Funding Goal Outcome Indicator
Order Year Year Area
1 Improve Accessibility 2017 2021 Non- Better Accessibility in CDBG: Public Facility or Infrastructure
Homeless Meridian $336,246 Activities other than
Special Needs Improve Accessibility Low/Moderate Income Housing
in Meridian Benefit:6205 Persons Assisted
2 Enhance 2017 2021 Affordable Improved Housing CDBG: Homeowner Housing
Homeownership Housing Options and $171,000 Rehabilitated: 15 Household
Opportunities Supportive Services Housing Unit
Improved
Weatherization of
Housing Stock
Better Accessibility in
Meridian
Housing
Rehabilitation
Opportunities
Improve Accessibility
in Meridian
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Sort Goal Name Start End Category Geographic Needs Addressed Funding Goal Outcome Indicator
Order Year Year Area
3 Provide Social 2017 2021 Non- Improvements in CDBG: Public service activities other than
Services Homeless Economic Stability $45,000 Low/Moderate Income Housing
Special Needs Service Programs- Benefit:100 Persons Assisted
Low income Low Income and
services Special Needs
Improved Housing
Options and
Supportive Services
4 Administration and 2017 2021 Admin CDBG: Other:0 Other
Fair Housing 45,000
Activities
Table 6—Goals Summary
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Goal Descriptions
1 Goal Name Improve Accessibility
Goal The City will coordinate with City and local stakeholders to implement projects that will improve accessibility in LMI
Description areas.
2 Goal Name Enhance Homeownership Opportunities
Goal The City will provide funding to support LMI households obtain or maintain housing that is affordable to them.
Description
3 Goal Name Provide Social Services
Goal The City will address identified needs by providing local agencies with funding to provide necessary public services to
Description LMI residents.
4 Goal Name Administration and Fair Housing Activities
Goal The City will administer the Program,including collaboration with local entities to educate residents and landlords on
Description fair housing rights and responsibilities.
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Projects
AP-35 Projects— 91.220(d)
Introduction
The City has allocated CDBG funds to projects that meet the priority needs and goals identified in the
2017-2021 Con Plan.
Projects
# Project Name
1 Homelessness Prevention and Stability
2 Youth Extended Care Scholarships
3 Homeowner Repair
4 Chateau Park All Abilities Playground and Pathway
5 Alternate:Peregrine Elementary Streetlights
6 Alternate:E.MHS/MMS Streetlights
7 Alternate:Homebuyer Assistance
8 Administration
9 Fair Housing
Table 7-Project Information
Describe the reasons for allocation priorities and any obstacles to addressing underserved
needs
Projects were prioritized based on the needs identified in the 2017-2021 Con Plan,needs expressed in
the PY21 CDBG competitive application process,and the experiences of the CDBG Scoring Committee.
A common obstacle for public service projects is the lack of available funding to provide the necessary
level of services.To address this,subrecipients will leverage other funding sources and utilize screening
criteria to provide services to those with the highest level of need first.
The main obstacle for housing projects in Meridian is related to the soaring housing market in Meridian
and lack of affordable homes.The Homeowner Repair Program provides owner-occupied rehabilitation
for those who already own homes they can afford in order to keep them stably housed.A potential
obstacle to addressing the underserved needs is making the community aware of this program.The City
will continue to assist the subrecipient with outreach for this program.
The accessibility projects have the potential obstacle of rising construction costs,which is related to the
soaring housing market. It is often difficult to find a contractor to complete smaller construction
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projects because there is such a demand for large construction projects right now.
No obstacles have been identified for Administration and Fair Housing.
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Project Summary Information
1 Project Name Homelessness Prevention and Stability
Target Area
Goals Supported Provide Social Services
Needs Addressed Improvements in Economic Stability
Service Programs-Low Income and Special Needs
Improved Housing Options and Supportive Services
Funding CDBG:$25,000
Description Provide emergency payments for rent,mortgage,and/or utilities on
behalf of LMI eligible individuals or families for the purpose of stabilizing
housing and preventing homelessness.
Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the 20 LMI households averaging 3 people per household who are at risk of
number and type of homelessness.
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location Services will be offered in the community and at provider offices and
Description will benefit households throughout Meridian. Services may also be
provided virtually.
Planned Activities (05Q)Subsistence Payments
2 Project Name Youth Extended Care Scholarships
Target Area
Goals Supported Provide Social Services
Needs Addressed Improvements in Economic Stability
Service Programs-Low Income and Special Needs
Improved Housing Options and Supportive Services
Funding CDBG:$20,000
Description Provide funding for LMI eligible youth to participate in before and after
school programs as well as summer programs at a free or reduced cost.
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Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the 40 LMI households with children under age 13.
number and type of
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location Services will be provided at the Meridian Boys&Girls Club,located at
Description 911 N.Meridian Road in Meridian.
Planned Activities (05L)Child Care Services
3 Project Name Homeowner Repair
Target Area
Goals Supported Enhance Homeownership Opportunities
Needs Addressed Improved Housing Options and Supportive Services
Improved Weatherization of Housing Stock
Better Accessibility in Meridian
Housing Rehabilitation Opportunities
Improve Accessibility in Meridian
Funding CDBG:$171,000
Description The Homeowner Repair Program will improve the weatherization,
accessibility and visitability of existing homes of LMI Meridian residents,
making them safer and more economically sustainable.
Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the 10 LMI households.
number and type of
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location Services will be provided at NeighborWorks Boise offices located at 3380
Description W.Americana Terrace,Ste 120 in Boise and will benefit households
throughout Meridian. Services may also be provided virtually.
Planned Activities (14A)Rehabilitation:Single-Unit Residential
4 Project Name Chateau Park All Abilities Playground and Pathway
Target Area
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Goals Supported Improve Accessibility
Needs Addressed Better Accessibility in Meridian
Improve Accessibility in Meridian
Funding CDBG:PY21$240,559
PY20$95,687
Description Replace existing playground in Chateau Park with an all abilities
playground to offer recreational opportunities to children with
disabilities. This project will also create a pathway that connects the
park to LMI neighborhoods to the north and west that do not have
amenities.
Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the An estimated 2,068 households with an average of three people per
number and type of household who reside in an LMI area.
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location 2640 W Chateau Drive,Meridian
Description
Planned Activities (03F)Parks,Recreational Facilities
5 Project Name Alternate:Peregrine Elementary Streetlights
Target Area
Goals Supported Improve Accessibility
Needs Addressed Better Accessibility in Meridian
Improve Accessibility in Meridian
Funding CDBG:$125,000
Description Design and install and/or upgrade streetlights in LMI area. This is a
backup project.
Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the An estimated 2,222 households with an average of 3 people per
number and type of household who reside in an LMI area.
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
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Location Landing Subdivisions No.1,2,3,4 and 7
Description
Planned Activities (03K)Street Improvements
6 Project Name Alternate:E.MHS/MMS Streetlights
Target Area
Goals Supported Improve Accessibility
Needs Addressed Better Accessibility in Meridian
Improve Accessibility in Meridian
Funding CDBG:$125,000
Description Design and install and/or upgrade streetlights in LMI area. This is a
backup project.
Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the An estimated 1,162 households with an average of 3 people per
number and type of household who reside in an LMI area.
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location Neighborhoods to the east and south of Meridian Middle School
Description extending to Meridian Road and Pine Avenue
Planned Activities (03K)Street Improvements
7 Project Name Alternate:Homebuyer Assistance
Target Area
Goals Supported Enhance Homeownership Opportunities
Needs Addressed Homeownership Opportunities:80-120 Percent of AMI
Down Payment Assistance Opportunities
Funding CDBG:$65,000
Description Provide assistance for eligible LMI persons to purchase homes in
Meridian,with preference being given to public housing residents.
Assistance will include down payment assistance,closing costs,and
other eligible activities.
Target Date 9/30/2022
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Estimate the 2 LMI households purchasing a home in Meridian.
number and type of
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location Services will be provided at NeighborWorks Boise offices located at 3380
Description W.Americana Terrace,Ste 120 in Boise and will benefit households
throughout Meridian. Services may also be provided virtually.
Planned Activities (13B)Homeownership Assistance
8 Project Name Administration
Target Area
Goals Supported Administration and Fair Housing Activities
Needs Addressed
Funding CDBG:$42,000
Description This project will conduct activities that relate to the administrative,
planning,and technical assistance for the CDBG program during PY21.
Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the n/a
number and type of
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location Administration office is located in Meridian City Hall at 33 E.Broadway
Description Ave.suite 102.
Planned Activities Administration and Planning
9 Project Name Fair Housing
Target Area
Goals Supported Administration and Fair Housing Activities
Needs Addressed
Funding CDBG:$3,000
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Description This project will carry out activities that relate to fair housing. At a
minimum,CDBG funds will be used to implement a Fair Housing
Campaign in April. Other opportunities to promote fair housing
activities will be evaluated as they arise.
Target Date 9/30/2022
Estimate the n/a
number and type of
families that will
benefit from the
proposed activities
Location The Fair Housing Campaign will be promoted via television,radio,and
Description social media.
Planned Activities (21D)Fair Housing Activities
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AP-50 Geographic Distribution- 91.220(o
Description of the geographic areas of the entitlement(including areas of low-income and
minority concentration)where assistance will be directed
The City of Meridian's basis for allocating public service and housing projects is geographically
delineated within its municipal boundaries.Funding is determined by meeting national objectives,
qualifying eligible activities,and through a competitive application process.The City does not specify
target areas by census tract or block group.The use of CDBG funding is not pre-determined on areas of
low-and moderate-income concentration or racial characteristics.Service agencies providing CDBG
funded services are primarily located in Boise;however,low-and moderate-income clients served reside
in Meridian.
Area benefit activities benefit at least one of the four(4)census tracts that fall within Meridian's LMI
area,which include census tracts:0103.21;0103.22;0103.31;and 0103.35.
Geographic Distribution
Target Area Percentage of Funds
n/a n/a
Table 8-Geographic Distribution
Rationale for the priorities for allocating investments geographically
Meridian has not identified a target area.
Discussion
The City allocates funds to assist low-to moderate-income(LMI)Meridian residents without targeting or
prioritizing specific geographic locations outside of the LMI area for area benefit projects per HUD
guidelines.
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AP-55 Affordable Housing- 91.220(g)
Introduction
The City of Meridian dedicates funding to providing LMI Meridian residents with affordable housing.
One Year Goals for the Number of Households to be Supported
Homeless 0
Non-Homeless 15
Special-Needs 0
Total 15
Table 9-One Year Goals for Affordable Housing by Support Requirement
One Year Goals for the Number of Households Supported Through
Rental Assistance 0
The Production of New Units 0
Rehab of Existing Units 15
Acquisition of Existing Units 0
Total 15
Table 10-One Year Goals for Affordable Housing by Support Type
Discussion
For homeowner rehabilitation,subrecipient(s)will utilize funding to assist homeowners with emergency
repairs,accessibility,weatherization,and similar eligible projects to improve the safety and livability of
their homes.
AP-60 Public Housing- 91.220(h)
Introduction
The City of Meridian is served by the Ada County Housing Authority(ACHA),who administers the
Homeownership Voucher Program,Housing Choice Voucher,Mainstream Voucher,as well as managing
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the Family Self Sufficiency Program.
Actions planned during the next year to address the needs to public housing
As part of the City's overall Comprehensive Plan,Meridian has identified a goal of offering a diversity of
housing types for all economic levels throughout the City.To accomplish this goal,Meridian encourages
quality housing projects for all economic levels throughout the city.The City supports a variety of
residential categories(low-,medium-,medium-high and high-density single family,multi-family,
townhouses,duplexes,apartments,condominiums,etc.)for the purpose of providing the City with a
range of opportunities to provide housing that is affordable to all.In spite of these efforts,ACHA has
identified a lack of affordable units as one of the barriers to eligible renters and potential homeowners.
Meridian is one of the towns within Ada County,which ACHA serves. ACHA has a 72%success rate,
whereas the national average is typically a 65-69%success rate. This leaves an estimated 28%of
households receiving Housing Choice Vouchers(HCV)in Ada County unable to identify housing within
120 days,requiring them to relinquish the voucher and return to the waiting list. There are many
reasons a participant may not be able to identify a housing unit including:
• Landlords feel there is too much"red tape"associated with the vouchers;
• Rents in this community are often above the fair market rents HUD allows;
• Misperception that voucher holders make bad tenants;
• Poor credit/rental history or criminal background may make some ineligible;or
• Lack of units that will accommodate larger families.
The City will continue to collaborate with ACHA,the CoC,and other partners during PY21.The City is in
the process of updating its Strategic Plan,which will+aelHdesinclude tasks related to housing
affordability.
Actions to encourage public housing residents to become more involved in management and
participate in homeownership
ACHA encourages public housing residents to participate in homeownership by:
• Referring families interested in homeownership to first-time homebuyer workshops covering
the following topics:benefits of and preparation for homeownership,credit analysis,FICO
scoring methodology,mortgage types and requirements,private mortgage insurance,loan-to-
value ratio,down payment assistance programs,escrow and title process,property taxes,home
maintenance,and homeowner responsibilities.
• Providing one-on-one meetings with a Homeownership Coordinator to determine short-and
long-term goals in obtaining homeownership and to make a plan to reduce any barriers that
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need to be addressed.
• Collaborating with nonprofit partner agencies,lenders,and realtors in the delivery of counseling
services for low-to moderate-income first-time homebuyers in the FSS/HCV programs.
Expanding partnerships with community organizations,lending institutions,and real estate
professionals.
• Actively marketing the Homeownership Assistance program to existing voucher holders through
quarterly newsletters and attending the annual recertification meetings for voucher holders to
explain the programs.
If the PHA is designated as troubled,describe the manner in which financial assistance will be
provided or other assistance
ACHA is not a troubled PHA.
Discussion
The City is committed to helping LMI households access necessary services and homeownership as
desired through a variety of methods.
AP-65 Homeless and Other Special Needs Activities- 91.220(i)
Introduction
The City coordinates with the Boise City/Ada County Continuum of Care(CoC)and the Region 4
Behavioral Health Board(BHB)to identify the strategies to address needs of those who are at risk of or
currently experiencing homelessness.
Describe the jurisdictions one-year goals and actions for reducing and ending homelessness
including
Rreaching out to homeless persons(especially unsheltered persons)and assessing their
individual needs
The City of Meridian has been a member of the CoC for the last six years to better understand and
coordinate the needs that Meridian residents who are currently or at risk of experiencing homelessness
face and how to better serve them.In addition,City representatives are frequently involved in public
discussions,presentations,and meetings with citizens,other government officials,and local service
providers including West Ada School District,Jesse Tree,and CATCH to provide support,understanding,
and outreach to those who are experiencing homelessness in Meridian.
In previous years,the City worked with the CoC to add data points to the CoC's Homeless Management
Information System(HMIS)to enable the City to determine how many Meridian residents are
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experiencing homelessness and the reasons for their housing crisis.This data and information was
evaluated while developing the PY21 Action Plan to better inform strategies and partnerships for the
City to implement.The City is committed to serving the individual needs of Meridian's homeless
population as identified by the CoC and local organizations.
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The City has also worked with the CoC to conduct the annual Point-in-Time Count,which helps
determine the number of people who are experiencing homelessness on a given day.This information
allows the City to understand the level of homelessness in Meridian and to develop a program that
better serves those in need.The City will continue to assist with this process in upcoming years.
The City intends to continue to use its partners to identify,understand,and support those experiencing
homelessness(especially persons experiencing unsheltered homelessness)or at risk of homelessness
with special needs in Meridian.
Addressing the emergency shelter and transitional housing needs of homeless persons
While there are emergency shelter and transitional housing facilities located in other nearby cities in the
Treasure Valley,none of these facilities are located within City of Meridian. The City has prioritized
funding homelessness prevention to mitigate the need for these services,but also works with the CoC to
assist Meridian residents who are in need of emergency shelter. The City encourages agencies who
provide these services to apply for CDBG funding,but there were no applications during PY21 for
projects directly related to emergency shelters or transitional housing projects. However,all services to
be funded are available to those who qualify.
Helping homeless persons(especially chronically homeless individuals and families,families
with children,veterans and their families,and unaccompanied youth)make the transition to
permanent housing and independent living,including shortening the period of time that
individuals and families experience homelessness,facilitating access for homeless individuals
and families to affordable housing units,and preventing individuals and families who were
recently homeless from becoming homeless again
The City will provide funding to NeighborWorks Boise to assist with homeowner repairs to Meridian
residents with a low-and moderate-income to keep them in housing they can afford.In addition,
Meridian's work with Jesse Tree has helped provide rental and case management services aimed at
preventing and resolving needs for those currently experiencing homelessness or at risk of
homelessness in Meridian.
The partnerships that the City has with local committees,organizations,and networks in evaluating,
understanding,and addressing the many needs of Meridian residents experiencing homelessness
include Meridian Police Department,Ada County Sheriff's Office,City of Boise,City of Nampa,City of
Caldwell,Women's and Children's Alliance,Jesse Tree,Boys&Girls Clubs of Ada County,West Ada
School District,CATCH,Ada County Housing Authority,Local HUD office,CoC,Meridian Food Bank,
United Way,NeighborWorks Boise,IHFA,Terry Riley,EI-Ada Community Action,Our Path Home
Connect,and many others.These partnerships are extensive and ongoing in order to help address and
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These efforts,particularly coordination and participation with CATCH and the CoC,are designed to assist
local service providers in helping persons experiencing homelessness make the transition to permanent
housing and independent living while shortening the time individuals and families experience
homelessness.
In addition,the City's relationships with ACHA,CATCH,and Jesse Tree are aimed to develop activities
through the Program that facilitate access for individuals and families experiencing homelessness to
affordable housing units while also preventing individuals and families from becoming homeless.
Helping low-income individuals and families avoid becoming homeless,especially extremely
low-income individuals and families and those who are:being discharged from publicly
funded institutions and systems of care(such as health care facilities,mental health facilities,
foster care and other youth facilities,and corrections programs and institutions);or,receiving
assistance from public or private agencies that address housing,health,social services,
employment,education,or youth needs.
The City is involved in the CoC,which is comprised of representation from ACHA,Health and Welfare,
mental health service providers and other service agencies,including law enforcement and correctional
agencies.The CoC coordinates,collects data,reviews data,and prioritizes strategies based on data and
input from providers.Coordinated entry serves all communities within Ada County and case
conferencing is conducted weekly.
The City is also involved in the Behavioral Health Board(BHB),which focuses on mental health and
substance use disorders.The BHB is a government entity established by the Idaho legislature in 2014 to
advise Idaho's behavioral health authority,identify gaps,and promote improvements to the delivery of
integrated services for behavioral health in Idaho.The Board promotes and supports prevention,
intervention,recovery and resiliency for individuals and families in need.It is composed of 23
stakeholders,advocates,and professionals across the continuum of care.Involvement with this group
allows the City to understand the broader needs of the community as related to behavioral health in
general and specifically for those who are being discharged from institutional settings such as mental
health facilities and corrections programs.
During PY21 the City will also provide funding to Jesse Tree to keep families,individuals,and children
who are at risk of eviction stably housed.Meridian partners with other organizations,such as the West
Ada School District,to assess needs and provide services for those at risk of becoming homeless.
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Discussion
Much of the work funded through the Program is directed at housing stability for Meridian's LMI
residents.In addition to the services previously mentioned,the City is focusing on public transportation
for seniors,ADA compliance improvements to public facilities,and public facility improvements such as
sidewalk and streetlight improvements in LMI areas to meet the needs of those in the community who
may or may not be experiencing homelessness.
AP-75 Barriers to affordable housing- 91.22O6f)
Introduction:
Section V of the Consolidated Plan and Fair Housing Assessment analyzes public and private barriers to
housing choice in Meridian.Stakeholders were also interviewed about housing barriers.Barriers
associated with tax policies,land use controls and zoning,building codes,fees and charges,growth
limits,and policies affecting the return on residential investment were not identified as barriers.On the
contrary,the review found a favorable environment for development and a migration toward more
diverse housing types.
As such,the actions summarized below do NOT address the negative effects of public policies that serve
as barriers to affordable housing(policies,procedures,processes).Instead,they focus on actions that
address other types of identified barriers.
Actions it planned to remove or ameliorate the negative effects of public policies that serve
as barriers to affordable housing such as land use controls,tax policies affecting land,zoning
ordinances,building codes,fees and charges,growth limitations,and policies affecting the
return on residential investment
The City has expressed a commitment to creating more diverse housing types through its
redevelopment plan for downtown.The Destination Downtown plan states that creating diverse
housing opportunities for different housing needs and life-cycles in downtown Meridian is important to
support new businesses and activity.A healthy housing mix will also help to draw people downtown and
ensure 24-7 activity.Housing created or redeveloped as part of the downtown plan is expected to
include apartments,townhomes,condominiums,duplexes,and single-family homes.The City helped
facilitate multiple RFPs over the past several years for a large portion of the publicly-owned properties in
downtown Meridian with a priority given to proposals that focused on developing mixed use and high-
density housing.One project that was awarded,Downtown Lofts,will bring several affordable units to
downtown Meridian including six(6)that will be dedicated to CATCH participants.This project is
expected to be completed in 2021.
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In 2017,to evaluate potential fair housing concerns within the City's zoning code,the City had BBC
Consulting utilize a"Review of Public Policies and Practices(Zoning and Planning Codes)"form recently
circulated by the Los Angeles fair housing office of HUD.The research did not reveal any negative effects
of public policies that serve as barriers to affordable housing.This includes land use controls,tax policies
affecting land,zoning ordinances,building codes,fees and charges,growth limitations,and policies
affecting returns on residential investment.
Additionally,the City continues to review of potential policy and code changes that will incentivize the
future development of multi-family and affordable housing units in Meridian.
Discussion:
The City will continue to identify areas to reduce barriers t affordable housing.
AP-85 Other Actions- 91.220(k)
Introduction:
This section discusses the Other Actions the City will take to address the needs of low-income residents.
Actions planned to address obstacles to meeting underserved needs
The City will continue to engage in conversations with neighboring communities and service providers to
identify and address underserved needs,maintain affordable housing,and reduce the number of
families living in poverty.
During PY21,the City has allocated funding to provide housing stability for those at risk of homelessness
and extended care programs that offer youth a positive place to go. Additionally,the Economic
Development Administrator works closely with the CDBG program in an effort to better align the needs
of our residents.
The City will increase relationships with private providers,developers,and social services providers to
reduce the obstacles for Meridian residents to achieve decent housing,a suitable living environment,
and expanded economic opportunities.
Actions planned to foster and maintain affordable housing
The City intends to partner with local service providers that will assist in fostering and maintaining
affordable housing.Projects funded during PY21 will provide:emergency assistance to families who are
at risk of eviction and homelessness;assistance for homeowners to make necessary improvements to
maintain their current housing;and,scholarships for children to participate in extended care programs
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so their caregivers can work.Additionally,the City will be working with service providers that focus on
providing stability to those with mental health and/or substance use disorders to allow them to gain or
maintain affordable housing with access to care coordination.
The City will also explore additional partnerships—including partnerships with mission-driven and
private developers—to bring more workforce housing into downtown and underutilized land parcels.
The City collaborates with the Economic Development Administrator to explore the development of
workforce housing and opportunities for residents to increase their income in an effort to foster and
maintain affordable housing.
Actions planned to reduce lead-based paint hazards
Over the course of the upcoming program year,the City will provide information regarding lead-based
paint hazards to educate the public and continue to gauge the prevalence of lead paint contamination
within the City. There is a wealth of information already available from HUD,the State,neighboring
communities,and various organizations that staff will gather and make available at City Hall,on the
City's website,and at other locations throughout the community as needed. Additionally,City staff has
reached out to CDH staff to ensure they have a contact person if lead-based paint hazards arise.
Actions planned to reduce the number of poverty-level families
The City will fund projects to assist poverty-level individuals and families access services that provide a
support system and allow them to focus on the steps they need to take to improve their living situation.
Projects include programs that provide emergency assistance to families who are at risk of
homelessness and housing cost assistance for residents unable to cover the full costs of home
purchases.The City's Strategic Plan also intends to address poverty-based issues through the expansion
of necessary public services and the expansion of quality employment opportunities for the jurisdiction's
LMI population.
As part of its Strategic Plan,the City is working on an in-depth socioeconomic profile of the City to help
identify the needs of community members as it pertains to housing,finances,food,education,
healthcare,and transportation.Completing this research will allow the City to better understand the
factors that are contributing to residents who are facing poverty in Meridian,as well as help define
solutions that could help mitigate those factors.The City's hope is that this research will provide long-
term insights and strategies to reduce the number of poverty-level families in Meridian.
Actions planned to develop institutional structure
In recent years the City made the CDBG Administrator position a full-time position and changed the
position title to Community Development Program Coordinator.This position is now funded out of the
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City's general fund.This institutional change is designed to provide more time to effectively manage the
CDBG program and provide flexibility for the position to expand efforts into economic and other areas
that can help meet the community development needs of the City.Staff will continue to work to attain
relevant and appropriate professional development trainings during the program year to learn and
address current and future institutional problems.Discussions will continue about the expansion and
opportunities to add new program staff to assist in this community development work.
The City has been involved in the institutional restructuring of the CoC as well as the implementation of
new HMIS and Coordinated Entry standards for service providers in the County.These activities have
dramatically altered the institutional framework of housing and other service providers in the region and
has improved the efficiency and transparency of the coordinated work being done to address these
needs.The City hopes to identify new institutional structures that can be developed,reformed or
changed to better support the needs of those most at risk in the region(e.g.transitional and emergency
housing networks).
Actions planned to enhance coordination between public and private housing and social
service agencies
City staff will be working with the CoC to identify ways to enhance coordination between public and
private housing and social service agencies.As in many communities,there is not enough funding to
provide the level of services we'd like so the CoC plans to identify a way of coordinating services that are
available and reducing duplication of services for a more effective use of funding.Multiple methods will
be explored including phone apps and enhancing services that are already available.
The City's partnership and funding relationship with local housing service organizations including
NeighborWorks Boise,Jesse Tree,and Ada County Housing Authority will continue to expand in this
program year.In addition,coordination with other organizations like CATCH,Boise Rescue Mission,
Interfaith Sanctuary,Terry Reilley,EI-Ada Community Action,Jannus,Idaho Office for Refugees,Agency
for New Americans,Women's and Children's Alliance,and all members associated with the local CoC
(including private housing developers)will continue to be built upon to improve networks,coordination,
and problem solving in the jurisdiction.Meridian's participation in the local CoC,housing and
homelessness roundtables,and other regional coordination efforts outlines the City's continued action
plan for enhancing the networking and coordination between public and private housing and social
service agencies.
Discussion:
The City intends to fund multiple projects that will improve access to affordable housing and suitable
living environments for Meridian residents. Staff will be working with subrecipients to identify barriers
within their programs and find ways to address them to provide more effective services. Staff will also
identify ways to improve and expand Meridian's CDBG Program for future years.
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Program Specific Requirements
AP-90 Program Specific Requirements— 91.220(l)(1,2,4)
Introduction:
Community Development Block Grant Program(CDBG)
Reference 24 CFR 91.220(I)(1)
Projects planned with all CDBG funds expected to be available during the year are identified in the
Projects Table.The following identifies program income that is available for use that is included in
projects to be carried out.
1.The total amount of program income that will have been received before the start of the next
program year and that has not yet been reprogrammed 0
2.The amount of proceeds from section 108 loan guarantees that will be used during the year to
address the priority needs and specific objectives identified in the grantee's strategic plan. 0
3.The amount of surplus funds from urban renewal settlements 0
4.The amount of any grant funds returned to the line of credit for which the planned use has not
been included in a prior statement or plan 0
5.The amount of income from float-funded activities 0
Total Program Income: 0
Other CDBG Requirements
1.The amount of urgent need activities 0
2.The estimated percentage of CDBG funds that will be used for activities that
benefit persons of low and moderate income. Overall Benefit-A consecutive
period of one,two or three years may be used to determine that a minimum
overall benefit of 70%of CDBG funds is used to benefit persons of low and
moderate income.Specify the years covered that include this Annual Action Plan. 100.00%
The City's certification period includes program years 2021,2022,and 2023.Outside of admin and fair
housing,the City will allocate all funding for PY21 to LMI projects. The City commits to meet the 70%
LMI benefit requirement of the federal CDBG program over the span of that three-year certification
period.
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Attachments
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Citizen Participation Comments
Date Method of Contributor Comment City Response t Formatted Table
Submission
6/25/21 Email Michael I believe the City of Meridian CBDG programs are The City appreciates the support.
Shepard, an extremely important means to help the
NeighborWorks underserved populations of Meridian grow,thrive,
Boise age in place,and have a safe secure place to call
home. It has been proven that those who have a
safe secure home excel in life,whether it be in
school,at their job or in their personal lives.A
perfect example would be the funds provided to
help an elderly woman age in place in her home.
On a very limited income,this senior had an older
home than needed a new roof,needed a tree
removed that was causing extreme tripping hazards
on her walk way. With no savings to repair these
items herself,this grant has afforded her the means
to continue to age in place,in a safe secure and
healthy home.
I appreciate the City of Meridian in allowing us to
help in these endeavors.
Thank you for continuing these vital programs for
those who need it most.
7/6/21 Public Councilman Requested a brief overview of the upcoming This is an analysis of our current housing market,
Presentation Hoaglun housing market analysis. which will review rental amounts,affordability,
and available units so we can get a better
understanding of the current housing market to
make informed decisions during our next
consolidated plan.
7/6/21 Public Councilwoman Comment 1—The amount allocated to rental es onse 1—Jesse Tree did request more Formatted:Font:Bold,underline
Presentation Perreault assistance was lower than expected. Was this the funding than was allocated,but with the other
request or was it reduced for some reason? available resources they have been unable to Formatted:Font:Bold,underline
fully expend their current allocations.
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Comment 2—Was it difficult utilizing the Response 2—The agency could increase the
homebuver assistance funds in previous years amount provided,but we would run into the issue
because the amount of assistance provided wasn't of putting people in houses they couldn't afford
enough to help the homeowner qualify for their long-term. The high cost of housing has left
loan? Follow-up comment:Essentially, they are limited units that are affordable to those who are
being priced out of the market eligible for this program. When potential
Participants identify a house there is often a cash
offer well over the asking price within hours,so
they are outbid.
7/6/21 Public Councilwoman Can CDBG funds address housing affordability CDBG has limitations on how it can be used in
Presentation Strader proiects in other ways?Are there other HUD funds housing construction. We would be able to pay
available to utilize for affordable housing proiects? for soft costs in housing proiects when there is an
Would like to have a bigger discussion regarding affordability component. We could potentially
ways to address the housing affordability issue in work with HOME funds. The CDBG Program is
Meridian. has been discussing creating a HOME
Consortium once the boundaries of all local
entitlement communities are touching.
In the next Con Plan we will be looking closer at
how we can more effectively utilize CDBG funds
to assist with housing affordability. The Housing
Market Analysis will be brought to Council for
further discussion over the next year..
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nity pe"lapmerit Block Grant Regarding Meridisn'a Community Development Block
(CDDGI Program Gram I;C66GI Program
The C4r of hrlurl::lan Is designated an
Entidanent Cur.imuni[y by the U.S. The Cily of Meridian is designated an Entftlemeni CamrrunF
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lows the City 10 receive funds annually Program.The City anticipates that it will.18 an ellocetion of
from HUD's Community Development $M S59 on October 1.2021.In order to receive ahem funds,
Block Grant fCDBGI Program- The die City must submh an Annual Action Plan m HUD ider dying
City antic pates tW R will receive an die pro' and goals the City will undertake inimprove ao-
allocation of$b61,9ts9 on OctoCOr 1, Ms rty.enhance housing oppawndea,and provide social
2021.In order to recerue these funds, servi acem to Tarr and moderate income residents during the rtexi
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tha City must suLvn a an Annual.lotion
Plan to HUD klentifyintg the lr"octr ALL CrrIIENS ARE INVITED TO ATTEND A PUBLIC HEAP,
and goals the City will undertake to ING ON TUESDAY,JULY 20,2021 AT LD013.1,1.al
Imrrnve accesslbfliy,enhance hour- meridiancity.oralire regarding the 2C21 Annual Action Plan.
IN OppDRUnites.and provide soclal There is also limited Beating available in City Hall.Special i,
vhabo is extended to parsons with disabi ices, reside"of
SerylGe5 to I]N and woclernte Imrrie aszesiad housing,and Meridian business and property owners.
residents durirgl the next prugrann Meridian Chy Hell is a handicapped accessible faalhy.Indl-
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TEND A PUBLIC FEARING ON TUES- Grey Clerk al(208)888 3.All dlixens may review the draft
DAY, JULY 20, 2021 AT S�)CIRM. at plan and provide WAirrany.Copies of the draft p4an ere avail-
httpsJlrne rid nn0ityargllive regarding beginnin June 11,2021 at the Meridian by Hall in the
ay evelapment Depar"nl and fm the CrWs 013613
the 2021 Annual Act10n Plan.There webs�,htl x::meridandtygy dbo
Is also Special
seating ais mdlc in City A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OPENED JUNE 11,2021
Hall..Spacial invitation is extended to
porso-ns with disabilities, rosidenty ANDWILL CGNTINUE THROUGH JULY 20,2021.Duringlhis
period,oral and written comments about the 2021 Annual Ao-
of assisted housing, and Me rid nn lion Plan will be accepted.AJI commanis should be addressed
business and property owners_ Me- Io Crystal Campbell at:City of Meridian.Community DEvekr-
ridian City Hall Is a handiCapped ac- mem Depairtment 33 E-Rmadrny Ave.,5 .102.Msridien,ID
cessible faclllty Ind Miduals requirlflg 93642; 1DB}dB9gk75,ortxamobe l,i!rMiancitv.ora
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clerk at i201t1 888-4433•NI ttzuns
may review the draft plan and provide
LeAnauny.Copies of the droll plan are
available beginning June 11,2021 at
the Meridian City Hall in the Commu-
nity Devek'ipment Department and on
the City's CDBG nobsito, ft:Jlmo-
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OPENED JUNE 11, 2021 AND WILL
CONFNUE THROUGH JULY 20.X21.
During this period, oral and wrltten
camrnenrs about the 2021 Annual
Action Plan will be accepted.All cow-
mentsshoudd be addressed to Grysral
Campbell at: Cty of Meridlan,Com-
munity Devel NFient DEvartrnenL 33
E.Broadway Ave.,Ste.102,Meridian,
ID 83842;(208)489-0575;or GGdnV-
Lyell@rnerklidrpCitq.org.
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Community Development Block Grant Program
IHome I CI)BG Projects I Resources I Planning and Reporting I Announcements
Program Year 2021(PY21)Action Plan C ystal Campbell
Ph one:208-484-0575
cu m pbell�meridiencity.org
0—ber 1,2021 to Sep—bc,30,2022
The PY21 Action Plan is open for public comment beginningJune 11,2021 and will end at the public hearing onJuly 20,
2021.This document serves as the annual application for CDBG funding and provides an outline of proposed projects
and intended accomplish ments for the upcoming year.
Click here for a quick overview of the PY21 Action Plan.
Click here for the PY21 Artie,Plan Flyer.
Click here for the PY21 Draft Action Plan.
The following presentations of the PY29 AP are available to the public
• July 5,2021 duringthe City Council Work Session Meeting
• July20,2029 duringthe City Council Regular Meeting
Questions and comments can be provided during the above forums or by contacting Crystal Campbell at
ampbell®meridiancity.erg or(208)489-0575.
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City of Meridian I Community Development
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Phone:(208)489-0575 1 Email:ccampbell@meridiancity.org
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Planning and Zoning Presentations and outline
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The Oasis Proposed–
Items #5 & #6: The Oasis CUP Appeals (CR-2021-0004 & CR-2021-0005)
Application(s):
Council Review of Commission Approvals (H-2021-0004) – trial de novo
Size of property, existing zoning, and location: This subject site resides on a portion of 3.26 acres of land, zoned
C-G, located at the southwest corner of Eagle and Ustick Roads, 3185 Ustick Road.
Adjacent Land Use & Zoning:
North – Ustick Road; C-G zoning and commercial development
East – Eagle Road; C-G zoning and commercial development
South – Undeveloped C-G zoning (approved with a multi-tenant building and drive-through); further
southwest is the Jackson Square subdivision
West – Undeveloped C-G zoning (Villasport site)
History: H-2019-0082 (DA Modification to remove the subject site from an existing DA and enter into a new one
specific to this site; DA Inst. #2019-121599); H-2020-0104 (Pre-plat approval to subdivide property into 5 lots); A-
2019-0376 & A-2021-0010 (CZC for parking lot, landscaping, and other relevant site improvements); A-2021-0012
(CZC and Design Review approval of the building proposed to house requested business); H-2021-0004 (CUP
approval for a drinking establishment, music venue, and nightclub).
Comprehensive Plan FLUM Designation: Mixed Use Regional
Written Testimony: There were over 225 pieces of testimony submitted for the CUP hearing for The Oasis—a
majority were in opposition of the CUP request.
Summary of Request: The subject property was annexed in 2003 as part of a larger annexation area (AZ-03-018).
There was a Development Agreement (DA) associated with this annexation which was modified in 2019 to remove
this property from that DA (H-2019-0082) and enter into a new one serving just this site (DA Inst. #2019-121599). In
December of 2020, the land owner (not the current Applicant) received preliminary plat approval to subdivide the
property for future ownership purposes. At the time, future uses were not known by Staff and the land owner is not
required to divulge what contracts they be seeking with future tenants. The Oasis is proposed within a new multi-
tenant building on one of the lots within this subdivision.
The administratively approved building, Eagle View Retail Center, will be approximately 8,300 square feet in size with
two tenant suites. The Oasis is proposed in the larger suite at an approximate size of 7,000 square feet and the
building and use meet all of the code required dimensional standards. However, no Tenant Improvement building
permit has been submitted so there has been no set fire/building occupancy. How the suite is laid out will determine
the building occupancy (i.e. number of tables, size of dance floor, any mezzanine, etc.). The proposed business is a
combination of a nightclub and music venue which falls under Drinking Establishment and Indoor Recreation Facility
uses within the development code, respectively. The indoor recreation facility use is a principally permitted use within
the C-G zoning district unless it incorporates a music venue and is located within 1,000 feet of an existing residence
which then requires a conditional use permit; as was the case with this application. A drinking establishment is a
conditional use within the C-G zoning district. Therefore, the Applicant requested conditional use permit approval for
these two uses to reside within one building and one business, The Oasis.
It is anticipated that directly south of the approved building there will be additional landscaping, a larger parking lot,
and a drive aisle. This parking lot and landscaping received preliminary approval with the Villasport applications.
Main access to and for this development will be via a shared driveway connection to Ustick Road limited to a right-
in/right-out access—the land owner is currently constructing this shared driveway access for their development
because this site is developing before the Villasport project and ensures there is more than one way to get to the
entrance of the site besides Ustick Road. This drive aisle will connect to N. Cajun Lane to the south. The Applicant
has an existing cross-access agreement with the adjacent commercial properties (Inst. #106169335) but this
agreement does not include a cross-parking agreement.
In addition to the shared drive aisle that abuts the property to the west, The Villasport site improvements and
recorded cross-access agreement will include an additional Ustick Road access point further west, N. Centrepoint
Way. These access points to the arterial are long approved for the site. Staff finds there is adequate and safe access
to the site at full build-out and also with only the most adjacent Ustick access in conjunction with the drive aisle
connection to Cajun Lane and then out to Eagle Road. However, to help mitigate any residential cut-through traffic
Staff required as a condition of approval that this Applicant work with the Villasport landowners to construct the
northernmost driveway through the Villasport site. This driveway would provide a direct means of accessing
Centrepoint Way and the existing traffic signal at that intersection without using the roads adjacent to the residential
subdivision to the south.
ACHD is the leading agency on access points and traffic mitigation for the City of Meridian; because peak traffic
times should not be drastically affected by the proposed use on any access point, ACHD did not require a Traffic
Impact Study for the CUP application. Even with the assumed capacity of 1,000 persons in the initial submittal this
was not required and restricting the capacity to 400 persons should help with the traffic concerns of this type of use.
Further analysis regarding access should be addressed to ACHD. Staff also agrees that at peak hours of business
(after 8pm) access to the site should be improved as adjacent traffic levels on Ustick and Eagle should be much less
than at 5 or 6pm.
Following the two Commission meetings and public testimony at both hearings, the following conditions were
required as part of the CUP approval:
a. The proposed business shall have operating hours as set forth: Sunday through Thursday, 4:00PM
to 12:00AM and; Friday and Saturday, 4:00PM to 1:00AM.
b. The maximum number of patrons and employees allowed at any one time shall not exceed four-
hundred (400) persons.
c. A minimum of 125 parking spaces shall be provided on the overall Eagle Commons site prior to
commencement of the proposed uses.
d. Prior to obtaining Certificate of Occupancy for the building, the drive aisle connection from Ustick
Road to N. Cajun Lane shall be constructed.
e. When more permanent parking spaces are available (i.e. via cross parking agreements), the
Applicant may apply for a Conditional Use Permit Modification to request an increase the allowable
capacity.
f. The internal speakers and any amplified equipment within the venue shall project away from the
nearest residences.
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AGENDA ITEM
ITEM TOPIC: Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0004) by Robert Black Jr. of Land
Baron Investments, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: City Council Review of the Planning and Zoning Commission's decision of approval
for The Oasis Conditional Use Permit (H-2021-0004) to operate a drinking establishment,
nightclub, and music venue on a portion of 3.26 acres of land in the C-G zone.
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PUBLIC HEARING INFORMATION
Staff Contact:Joseph Dodson Meeting Date: July 13, 2021
Topic: Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0004) by Robert Black Jr. of Land Baron
Investments, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: City Council Review of the Planning and Zoning Commission's
decision of approval for The Oasis Conditional Use Permit (H-2021-0004) to
operate a drinking establishment, nightclub, and music venue on a portion of
3.26 acres of land in the C-G zone.
Information Resources:
Click Here for Application Materials
Click Here to Sign Up to Testify at the City Council Public Hearing
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Joe Borton Jessica Perreault
D A H O Luke Cavener Liz Strader
July 14, 2021
MEMORANDUM
TO: Mayor& City Council
CC: Cameron Ariel, Community Development Director
FROM: Joseph Dodson, Associate Planner
RE: The Oasis, Planning and Zoning Commission Approval
Dear Mayor& City Council,
On May 6, 2021, the Planning and Zoning Commission approved The Oasis Conditional Use
Permit for an approximate 7,000 square foot drinking establishment, music venue, and nightclub
on a portion of 3.26 acres of land in the C-G zoning district located on the southwest corner of
Eagle and Ustick Roads. The project was originally heard on March 18, 2021 and at both
hearings public testimony was taken with a majority in opposition of the project based on a
number of factors (see Exhibit A of the Findings for the complete Commission Recommendation
overview).
The Commission ultimately approved this Conditional Use Permit per the findings in UDC 11-
5B-6E and the conditions of approval within the staff report. The Commission added the
following conditions to the project in addition to Staff s recommended conditions:
• limited capacity to 400 persons;
• required that amplified music be focused away from the nearest homes;
• and allowed for additional capacity when more permanent parking is available (i.e. a
shared parking agreement).
Following this approval, two groups appealed the Commission decision within the allotted 15
day period. The appeals are based on a number of the same issues discussed at the Commission
hearing on March 181h and May 61h
Staff is attaching the administratively approved plans that approved the multi-tenant building and
not the specific use.
Community Development Department . 33 E. Broadway Avenue, Suite 102, Meridian, ID 83642 page 93
Phone 208-884-5533 . Fax 208-888-6854 . www.meridiancity.org
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• Attempting to schedule a public hearing
at inconvenient locations outside of F1 N O YOUR PARADISE
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and World Class Nightclub
3085 E. Ustick Rd.
Meridian, ID 83646
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3085 E. Ustick Rd.
Meridian, ID 83646
North of The Village
What is being recommended?
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• Venue size contradicts narrative
Lounge • Concert House
• Dress Code inconsistency and World Class Nightclub
3085 E. Ustick Rd.
Meridian, ID 83646
North of The Village
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Dress Code
To maintain the atmosphere of our facility,
the following dress code will be strictly
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Dress Code
For Men: To maintain the atmosphere of our facility,the following dress
A minimum of a button up shirt and slacks code will be strictly enforced at the door during nightclub
are required.
hours.
The followng are absolutey prohrbted:
A minimum of a button up shirt and slacks are suggested,
-Baggy jeans
-T-Shirts or jerseys upscale but still casual.Or show us your best beach attire!
Tennis or"Sports Like'Shoes Sorry,shirts are still required.
Shorts or Caprrs of Any Kind
-Beanies or Sports fiats The following are absolutely prohibited:
-BaggyJeans
For Ladies: -jerseys
We want you to have a great time but also Beanies or Sports Hats
be safe.With the exception of the above
restrictions,show us your best sun dress These requirements are subject to change based on the event
or beach attire! type and use.
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• False hours of operation related to
parking claims FIND YOUR PARADISE
• Use and purpose changing A 10,000 SF
• Venue size contradicts narrative
Lounge • Concert House
• Dress Code inconsistency and world Class Nightclub
• Apples to oranges and cows
3085 E. Ustick Rd.
Meridian, ID 83646
North of The Village
Square Peg, Round Hole
• 11 pages addressing problems and
safety concerns
• What else do you need to understand
why the code requires a CUP for all
nightclubs?
• Is this the best Meridian can attract?
Process Concerns
• Recommending approval without
cross-parking
• 400 person cap not enforceable
• Burdening residents, tax payers &
public services
• Failure to learn from past CUP mistakes
• Building size: 7,000 or 10,000 sqft?
Common Sense
• Can a business operating at 40% capacity
remain a going concern?
o Same capital expenditures I
o Same costs
o Less than half the income
• How will the business pay for additional
security, cleanup and enforcement?
Vigilante Policing
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• As recommended, the only enforcem
for the CUP is the bad neighbor polic
• What is the monetary cost of
enforcement?
• What is the political cost?
• What is the cost to the community?
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By 2035, Meridian will be the West's premier community in which to live,
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Reducing Violence in Bar and Entertainment Districts
There is a substantial literature around violence and alcohol outlets . Roman et al . ( 2008 )
studied block groups in Washington , DC and found that increased densities of on -and off-
premise liquor outlets increase disorder and violence , but that each type of outlet affects only a
specific kind of violence : the presence of on - premise alcohol outlets predict increases in
aggravated assault, while off- premise outlets predict increases in domestic violence . In
response to violence and disorder, particularly around on - premise alcohol outlets, effective
programs have been developed to address this problem by combining several strategies . The
common thread between these policies is that each addresses at least one of the five key
factors contributing to assault, social disorder, and domestic violence in or closely linked to
entertainment districts : the availability of alcohol , the time of day at which drinking takes place,
the protective or risk- creating physical factors of the area , the social and legal fabric of the
neighborhood , and the presence of motivated offenders . This report summarizes the literature
on the effectiveness of interventions targeting these five key factors .
The Relationship between Alcohol Outlets and Violence
In their Washington , D . C . study, Roman et al . , 2008 found that the density of on - premise
alcohol outlets is highly predictive of violence, particularly aggravated assault ( interestingly,
these results do not hold for the density of off- premise outlets ) . The study also found that on -
premise outlet density is a strong predictor of violence on weekends and weekend nights, but
not on weeknights ( Monday through Thursday ) , while the density of off- premise alcohol outlets
is associated with more violence during the weekday period . When disaggregated by type of
on - premise alcohol outlets, the density of taverns is positively associated with both more
violence and more disorder. However, the densities of nightclubs and alcohol -serving
restaurants are not associated with either more disorder or more violence ; to the contrary, the
density of nightclubs is associated with less disorder .
The impact of off- premise liquor outlets on violence is weaker ( Roman, et al . , 2008 ) , though
there are positive relationships between off- premise liquor outlets and all types of violent
crime (Toomey, et al . , 2012 ) , and there are associations with higher incidence of overnight
hospital stays ( Gruenewald & Remer, 2006 ) . A law change in New Mexico allowing off- premise
liquor sales on Sundays created a natural experiment to test the effect of off- premise sales on
several measures of crime and disorder . The study found increases in violence and increases in
traffic fatalities . However, localities in New Mexico that maintained or quickly reinstated their
bans of off- premise sales on Sundays saw fewer fatalities than the ones that lifted the ban
permanently ( McMillan & Lapham , 2006) .
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City Code Requirement Number The Oasis Comparison
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Evanston, IL 6-16-2 1 per 250sf 38 +328%
Laguna Beach, CA 25.52.012 1 per 100sf 95 +31%
Salt Lake City, UT 21A.44.060 6 per 1000sf 57 +219%
Chicago, IL 17-10-0207 2.5 per 1000sf 24 +521%
St. Petersburg, FL 16.10.020. 1 1 per 150sf 63 +98%
San Francisco, CA 150(b) 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
New Orleans, LA 22.4.A 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
Portland, OR 33.266 1 per 250sf 38 +328%
Bentonville, AK 501.06 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
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July 16, 2021
To Mayor Simison and City of Meridian City Council,
I have seen the Staff memo regarding The Oasis Council Reviews. As extracted from the report is the
mention of a 7000 SF drinking establishment, music venue, and nightclub.
Dear Mayor&City Council,
On May 6, 202.1, the Planning and Zoning Commission approved The Oasis Conditional Use
Permit for an approximate 7,000 square foot drinking establishment, music venue, and nightclub
on a portion of 3.2.6 acres of land in the zoning district located on the southwest corner of
Eagle and Ustiek Roads. The project was originally heard on March 18, 2021 and at both
hearings public testimony was taken with a majority in opposition of the project based on a
number of factors (see Exhibit A of the Findings for the complete Commission recommendation
overview).
From the Staff Report for The Oasis CUP there is a Conceptual Floor Plan within depicting a second floor
"Mezzanine" in addition to the shell for Jamba Juice and The Oasis. The Mezzanine is highlighted below
in Yellow and is shown to measure 2329 SF with the ground floor measuring at 7016 SF.
This Conceptual Floor Plan will vary once the "architect" completes his plans,so we will go off the
concept provided which is ground floor at 7016 SF plus Mezzanine at 2329 SF for a total of 9345 SF, with
maybe some adjustment for stairs and miscellaneous, not to mention once the size and scope of this
mezzanine once it is complete (could be larger). So far the plans searchable through the Citizen's Portal
or ACA show a plain shell. The Oasis advertisements are touting 10000 SF, so the Conceptual Plan for
The Oasis is pretty darn close to that Square Footage Count, a disparity of 3000 SF from the Staff Memo.
A 10,000 SF
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3085 E. Ustick Rd.
Meridian, ID 83646
North of The Village
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Mezzanine that could be 11205 SF, or more? A question is now before us all: via whose authority and
consent was this concept drastically changed from the concept presented before City Council and
therefore the Citizens? SHOPS depicted do not necessarily raise alarm as viewed in the SWC Ustick and
Eagle Rd Site Plans presented before you not just once but twice in both 2019 and 2020.
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overall.
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B. Proposed ❑evelopmcrri Agreement Provisions. Conceptual Development flan & Building Flevatiorts
Prior to drafting the new d-ewtopm-ent agreement, (be Applicont shall stibmis a legal
description and exhibit map of the subject PFOpeity gover-ned by the new
1. The applicant shall be responsible for all costs associated with the sewer and water service
extension and hook-up to City services.
2. Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project shaft be removed from
their domestic service,per City Ordinance Section 5-7-5 l 7, wells may be used for non-
domestic purposes such as landscape irrigation.
3, Future development of this site shall substantially comply with the conceptual development
plan and provisions contained herein.
4. 1 lie Developer Shall record a Cr()SS-accesS'1ngress-egress easement to Ilie adjacent properties
to the west and south(Parcel#S1105110110&S 1105110120). A copy of the recorded
easement(s)shall be submitted to the Planning Division with the first development
application for the site.
5. Future development shall comply with the structure and site design standards listed in UDC
1 1-3A-19 and the design standards listed in the Architectural Standards Manual.
h, A 10-foot wide multi-use pathway with a public use easement and pedestrian lighting and
landscaping shall he installed adjacent to N. Eagle Rd./Sl-1-55 as set forth in UDC 1 1-3H-
The Oasis CUP H-2021-0004 PZ—Elevations
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How did it increase in height by nearly four feet without a Modification to the Development Agreement?
How did the purpose and nature of use change from SHOPS to a nightclub/indoor entertainment
facility/drinking establishment, riding on the coattails of the VillaSport approval, on the basis that a few
Mai Tais by the pool is a perfect and logical segue to a drinking establishment and late night EDM
nightclub? Certainly not apples-to-apples. The argument that there are other drinking establishments
in Meridian that did not raise alarm among the citizenry is a moot point...they are nowhere near as close
to residences as this one is, and especially not so close to children utilizing VillaSport or those sleeping in
their own beds in Jackson Square.
The often cited drinking establishments at The Village are more than 1000 feet from the nearest
residents. The cited Top Golf is nearly 1000 feet from the nearest resident. The Oasis is sited 328 feet
from the nearest resident.
As depicted below, Big Al's is more than 1000 feet from the apartments to the north of The Village. Bing
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Wadsworth Meridian Subdivision PP H-2020-0104 PZ-Staff Report 11-19
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A. Future Land Use Map Designation(h�ips:11it,K,„•.meridiaaci .arglcomppfarr)
Mixed Use regional— In general, the purpose of mixed-use designations is to provide for a
combination of compatible land uses within a close geographic area that allows for easily
accessible and convenient services for residents and workers.The intent is to promote
developments that offer functional and physical integration of land uses, to create and enhance
neighborhood sense of place, and to allow developers a greater degree of design and use
flexibility.
Specifically,the purpose of the regional designation is to provide a mix of employment,retail,
and residential dwellings and public uses near major arterial intersections. The intent is to
integrate a variety of uses together, including residential,and to avoid predominantly single use
developments such as a regional retail center with only restaurants and other commercial uses.
Developments should be anchored by uses that have a regional draw with the appropriate
supporting uses.
The subject site is located at the southwest corner of the intersection of E. Ustick Road(an
arterial street)and N. Eagle RoadISH 55. Staff and the Applicant understand the importance of
providing more commercial uses in this area, especially on an undeveloped corner. To the east
and across Eagle Road are two large commercial centers;to the north is an additional
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commercial center. These surrounding areas provide a plethora of'commercial uses that are used
at a regional level. Directly to the west of the subject site is intended to he a high-end indoor gym
(Villasport)and further to the south of the site is existing residential and some community serving
commercial. As these lots get developed over time, Staff believes that they will continue to add to
residents to the southwest of this site. Staff is of the opinion that there is less creed for these five
relatively small commercial lots to serve a regional base than those sites to the north and east. In
addition, this project, in conjunction with the approved uses to the west, should satisfy the
comprehensive plan and mixed-use policies.
The Regional designators are fully satisfied as currently planned without The Oasis; no one is going to
upset the vision by denying The Oasis CUP.
The Oasis is most likely a multi-investor-pool- backed business with a local-front-man application from
all from the contextual clues, in my honest opinion. Here are the concrete facts: The Oasis had to seek
a CUP since it is closer than the requisite 1000 feet from residences for an indoor recreation facility, per
City code. The Facebook page for The Oasis was created in September 2020,yet City Council and
Citizens were not made aware of this coming business until the application came forth. The Oasis
Facebook page went public with their first post on December 23, 2020, mere hours after the approval of
the Wadsworth Subdivision on December 22, 2020. The Lease announcement at 3085 E Ustick went to
press November 28, 2020 via Idaho Press, so the lease was signed previous to November 28, 2020 press
time and Wadsworth Sub applicants were aware of their tenant. The Oasis showed up in the City record
in August and September 2020 for the CZC for AFC Urgent Care and is depicted as a Restaurant and
Event Bar of a smaller square footage. The Oasis showed up in a photometric dated December 22, 2020
that was submitted to the City in early January 2021 with Oasis/Jamba Juice clearly depicted and that
photometric has since been replaced with a revised photometric dated for February 2021. End users for
Wadsworth were supposedly not known,yet nine days after your City Council December 22, 2020
approval of Wadsworth Subdivision an affidavit of legal interest is signed on New Year's Eve 2020 giving
Balboa Ventures LLC the right to file applications on Wadsworth Development's behalf.
You have many invested and vetted residents in close proximity whose home lives will be markedly
upset by this business model. As we tout the need for diversity of homes that aren't on big lots within
the expectations of the stereotypical subdivision within the suburban fabric, it doesn't mean a
townhome community or apartment community should not have a reasonable and equitable quality of
life and welcoming respite of home, despite proximities to other uses. I also think there needs to be an
improvement in anticipating the needs for improvement in roads, lanes, and quantifying the traffic
impacts of all nearby developments as a whole,for there were past grievous failures that the residents
of Jackson Square and other communities must bear due to unintentional mistakes and short-
sightedness...I sincerely believe there is great room for improvement. There are five drive-thru
establishments as well (Sadie Creek,Jimmy John's, the pending Dutch Bros,the expected
Wienerschnitzel, and tenant Jamba Juice) all utilizing that skinny Private Lane Roundabout to and from
Eagle Road and the Private Picard Private that is deeded to and maintained by Jackson Square HOA
without additional impact funds from current and coming development slated to augment Jackson
Squares HOA's coffers.
Thank you.
Malissa Bernard, Meridian resident for nine years and local resident for 25 years
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GUARDING OUR REJECT THE OASIS TREASURE
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AGENDA ITEM
ITEM TOPIC: Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0005) by Michael and Cherilyn
Kynaston and Jon and Cheri Hoeger, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: Council Review of the Planning and Zoning Commission's decision of approval for
The Oasis Conditional Use Permit (H-2021-0004) to operate a drinking establishment, nightclub,
and music venue on a portion of 3.26 acres of land in the C-G zoning district.
Page 179
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PUBLIC HEARING INFORMATION
Staff Contact:Joseph Dodson Meeting Date: July 13, 2021
Topic: Public Hearing for The Oasis (CR-2021-0005) by Michael and Cherilyn Kynaston
and Jon and Cheri Hoeger, Located at 3185 E. Ustick Rd.
A. Request: Council Review of the Planning and Zoning Commission's decision of
approval for The Oasis Conditional Use Permit (H-2021-0004) to operate a
drinking establishment, nightclub, and music venue on a portion of 3.26 acres
of land in the C-G zoning district.
Information Resources:
Click Here for Application Materials
Click Here to Sign Up to Testify at the City Council Public Hearing
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PUBLIC HEARING SIGN - IN SHEET
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Joe Borton Jessica Perreault
D A H O Luke Cavener Liz Strader
July 14, 2021
MEMORANDUM
TO: Mayor& City Council
CC: Cameron Ariel, Community Development Director
FROM: Joseph Dodson, Associate Planner
RE: The Oasis, Planning and Zoning Commission Approval
Dear Mayor& City Council,
On May 6, 2021, the Planning and Zoning Commission approved The Oasis Conditional Use
Permit for an approximate 7,000 square foot drinking establishment, music venue, and nightclub
on a portion of 3.26 acres of land in the C-G zoning district located on the southwest corner of
Eagle and Ustick Roads. The project was originally heard on March 18, 2021 and at both
hearings public testimony was taken with a majority in opposition of the project based on a
number of factors (see Exhibit A of the Findings for the complete Commission Recommendation
overview).
The Commission ultimately approved this Conditional Use Permit per the findings in UDC 11-
5B-6E and the conditions of approval within the staff report. The Commission added the
following conditions to the project in addition to Staff s recommended conditions:
• limited capacity to 400 persons;
• required that amplified music be focused away from the nearest homes;
• and allowed for additional capacity when more permanent parking is available (i.e. a
shared parking agreement).
Following this approval, two groups appealed the Commission decision within the allotted 15
day period. The appeals are based on a number of the same issues discussed at the Commission
hearing on March 181h and May 61h
Staff is attaching the administratively approved plans that approved the multi-tenant building and
not the specific use.
Community Development Department . 33 E. Broadway Avenue, Suite 102, Meridian, ID 83642 page 181
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Evanston, IL 6-16-2 1 per 250sf 38 +328%
Laguna Beach, CA 25.52.012 1 per 100sf 95 +31%
Salt Lake City, UT 21A.44.060 6 per 1000sf 57 +219%
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St. Petersburg, FL 16.10.020. 1 1 per 150sf 63 +98%
San Francisco, CA 150(b) 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
New Orleans, LA 22.4.A 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
Portland, OR 33.266 1 per 250sf 38 +328%
Bentonville, AK 501.06 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
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Meridian, ID 83646
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To maintain the atmosphere of our facility,
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Dress Code
For Men: To maintain the atmosphere of our facility,the following dress
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A minimum of a button up shirt and slacks are suggested,
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Shorts or Caprrs of Any Kind
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For Ladies: -jerseys
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Lounge • Concert House
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3085 E. Ustick Rd.
Meridian, ID 83646
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Square Peg, Round Hole
• 11 pages addressing problems and
safety concerns
• What else do you need to understand
why the code requires a CUP for all
nightclubs?
• Is this the best Meridian can attract?
Process Concerns
• Recommending approval without
cross-parking
• 400 person cap not enforceable
• Burdening residents, tax payers &
public services
• Failure to learn from past CUP mistakes
• Building size: 7,000 or 10,000 sqft?
Common Sense
• Can a business operating at 40% capacity
remain a going concern?
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security, cleanup and enforcement?
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• What is the cost to the community?
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Reducing Violence in Bar and Entertainment Districts
There is a substantial literature around violence and alcohol outlets . Roman et al . ( 2008 )
studied block groups in Washington , DC and found that increased densities of on -and off-
premise liquor outlets increase disorder and violence , but that each type of outlet affects only a
specific kind of violence : the presence of on - premise alcohol outlets predict increases in
aggravated assault, while off- premise outlets predict increases in domestic violence . In
response to violence and disorder, particularly around on - premise alcohol outlets, effective
programs have been developed to address this problem by combining several strategies . The
common thread between these policies is that each addresses at least one of the five key
factors contributing to assault, social disorder, and domestic violence in or closely linked to
entertainment districts : the availability of alcohol , the time of day at which drinking takes place,
the protective or risk- creating physical factors of the area , the social and legal fabric of the
neighborhood , and the presence of motivated offenders . This report summarizes the literature
on the effectiveness of interventions targeting these five key factors .
The Relationship between Alcohol Outlets and Violence
In their Washington , D . C . study, Roman et al . , 2008 found that the density of on - premise
alcohol outlets is highly predictive of violence, particularly aggravated assault ( interestingly,
these results do not hold for the density of off- premise outlets ) . The study also found that on -
premise outlet density is a strong predictor of violence on weekends and weekend nights, but
not on weeknights ( Monday through Thursday ) , while the density of off- premise alcohol outlets
is associated with more violence during the weekday period . When disaggregated by type of
on - premise alcohol outlets, the density of taverns is positively associated with both more
violence and more disorder. However, the densities of nightclubs and alcohol -serving
restaurants are not associated with either more disorder or more violence ; to the contrary, the
density of nightclubs is associated with less disorder .
The impact of off- premise liquor outlets on violence is weaker ( Roman, et al . , 2008 ) , though
there are positive relationships between off- premise liquor outlets and all types of violent
crime (Toomey, et al . , 2012 ) , and there are associations with higher incidence of overnight
hospital stays ( Gruenewald & Remer, 2006 ) . A law change in New Mexico allowing off- premise
liquor sales on Sundays created a natural experiment to test the effect of off- premise sales on
several measures of crime and disorder . The study found increases in violence and increases in
traffic fatalities . However, localities in New Mexico that maintained or quickly reinstated their
bans of off- premise sales on Sundays saw fewer fatalities than the ones that lifted the ban
permanently ( McMillan & Lapham , 2006) .
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Evanston, IL 6-16-2 1 per 250sf 38 +328%
Laguna Beach, CA 25.52.012 1 per 100sf 95 +31%
Salt Lake City, UT 21A.44.060 6 per 1000sf 57 +219%
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New Orleans, LA 22.4.A 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
Portland, OR 33.266 1 per 250sf 38 +328%
Bentonville, AK 501.06 1 per 200sf 47 +265%
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July 16, 2021
To Mayor Simison and City of Meridian City Council,
I have seen the Staff memo regarding The Oasis Council Reviews. As extracted from the report is the
mention of a 7000 SF drinking establishment, music venue, and nightclub.
Dear Mayor&City Council,
On May 6, 202.1, the Planning and Zoning Commission approved The Oasis Conditional Use
Permit for an approximate 7,000 square foot drinking establishment, music venue, and nightclub
on a portion of 3.2.6 acres of land in the zoning district located on the southwest corner of
Eagle and Ustiek Roads. The project was originally heard on March 18, 2021 and at both
hearings public testimony was taken with a majority in opposition of the project based on a
number of factors (see Exhibit A of the Findings for the complete Commission recommendation
overview).
From the Staff Report for The Oasis CUP there is a Conceptual Floor Plan within depicting a second floor
"Mezzanine" in addition to the shell for Jamba Juice and The Oasis. The Mezzanine is highlighted below
in Yellow and is shown to measure 2329 SF with the ground floor measuring at 7016 SF.
This Conceptual Floor Plan will vary once the "architect" completes his plans,so we will go off the
concept provided which is ground floor at 7016 SF plus Mezzanine at 2329 SF for a total of 9345 SF, with
maybe some adjustment for stairs and miscellaneous, not to mention once the size and scope of this
mezzanine once it is complete (could be larger). So far the plans searchable through the Citizen's Portal
or ACA show a plain shell. The Oasis advertisements are touting 10000 SF, so the Conceptual Plan for
The Oasis is pretty darn close to that Square Footage Count, a disparity of 3000 SF from the Staff Memo.
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for presentation to City Council on the date of December 22, 2020.
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Mezzanine that could be 11205 SF, or more? A question is now before us all: via whose authority and
consent was this concept drastically changed from the concept presented before City Council and
therefore the Citizens? SHOPS depicted do not necessarily raise alarm as viewed in the SWC Ustick and
Eagle Rd Site Plans presented before you not just once but twice in both 2019 and 2020.
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They show a max building height of 23' with a decorative non-structural detail resulting in 26' in height
overall.
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B. Proposed ❑evelopmcrri Agreement Provisions. Conceptual Development flan & Building Flevatiorts
Prior to drafting the new d-ewtopm-ent agreement, (be Applicont shall stibmis a legal
description and exhibit map of the subject PFOpeity gover-ned by the new
1. The applicant shall be responsible for all costs associated with the sewer and water service
extension and hook-up to City services.
2. Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project shaft be removed from
their domestic service,per City Ordinance Section 5-7-5 l 7, wells may be used for non-
domestic purposes such as landscape irrigation.
3, Future development of this site shall substantially comply with the conceptual development
plan and provisions contained herein.
4. 1 lie Developer Shall record a Cr()SS-accesS'1ngress-egress easement to Ilie adjacent properties
to the west and south(Parcel#S1105110110&S 1105110120). A copy of the recorded
easement(s)shall be submitted to the Planning Division with the first development
application for the site.
5. Future development shall comply with the structure and site design standards listed in UDC
1 1-3A-19 and the design standards listed in the Architectural Standards Manual.
h, A 10-foot wide multi-use pathway with a public use easement and pedestrian lighting and
landscaping shall he installed adjacent to N. Eagle Rd./Sl-1-55 as set forth in UDC 1 1-3H-
The Oasis CUP H-2021-0004 PZ—Elevations
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How did it increase in height by nearly four feet without a Modification to the Development Agreement?
How did the purpose and nature of use change from SHOPS to a nightclub/indoor entertainment
facility/drinking establishment, riding on the coattails of the VillaSport approval, on the basis that a few
Mai Tais by the pool is a perfect and logical segue to a drinking establishment and late night EDM
nightclub? Certainly not apples-to-apples. The argument that there are other drinking establishments
in Meridian that did not raise alarm among the citizenry is a moot point...they are nowhere near as close
to residences as this one is, and especially not so close to children utilizing VillaSport or those sleeping in
their own beds in Jackson Square.
The often cited drinking establishments at The Village are more than 1000 feet from the nearest
residents. The cited Top Golf is nearly 1000 feet from the nearest resident. The Oasis is sited 328 feet
from the nearest resident.
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Wadsworth Meridian Subdivision PP H-2020-0104 PZ-Staff Report 11-19
https://weblink.meridiancitV.org/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=216791&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity
A. Future Land Use Map Designation(h�ips:11it,K,„•.meridiaaci .arglcomppfarr)
Mixed Use regional— In general, the purpose of mixed-use designations is to provide for a
combination of compatible land uses within a close geographic area that allows for easily
accessible and convenient services for residents and workers.The intent is to promote
developments that offer functional and physical integration of land uses, to create and enhance
neighborhood sense of place, and to allow developers a greater degree of design and use
flexibility.
Specifically,the purpose of the regional designation is to provide a mix of employment,retail,
and residential dwellings and public uses near major arterial intersections. The intent is to
integrate a variety of uses together, including residential,and to avoid predominantly single use
developments such as a regional retail center with only restaurants and other commercial uses.
Developments should be anchored by uses that have a regional draw with the appropriate
supporting uses.
The subject site is located at the southwest corner of the intersection of E. Ustick Road(an
arterial street)and N. Eagle RoadISH 55. Staff and the Applicant understand the importance of
providing more commercial uses in this area, especially on an undeveloped corner. To the east
and across Eagle Road are two large commercial centers;to the north is an additional
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commercial center. These surrounding areas provide a plethora of'commercial uses that are used
at a regional level. Directly to the west of the subject site is intended to he a high-end indoor gym
(Villasport)and further to the south of the site is existing residential and some community serving
commercial. As these lots get developed over time, Staff believes that they will continue to add to
residents to the southwest of this site. Staff is of the opinion that there is less creed for these five
relatively small commercial lots to serve a regional base than those sites to the north and east. In
addition, this project, in conjunction with the approved uses to the west, should satisfy the
comprehensive plan and mixed-use policies.
The Regional designators are fully satisfied as currently planned without The Oasis; no one is going to
upset the vision by denying The Oasis CUP.
The Oasis is most likely a multi-investor-pool- backed business with a local-front-man application from
all from the contextual clues, in my honest opinion. Here are the concrete facts: The Oasis had to seek
a CUP since it is closer than the requisite 1000 feet from residences for an indoor recreation facility, per
City code. The Facebook page for The Oasis was created in September 2020,yet City Council and
Citizens were not made aware of this coming business until the application came forth. The Oasis
Facebook page went public with their first post on December 23, 2020, mere hours after the approval of
the Wadsworth Subdivision on December 22, 2020. The Lease announcement at 3085 E Ustick went to
press November 28, 2020 via Idaho Press, so the lease was signed previous to November 28, 2020 press
time and Wadsworth Sub applicants were aware of their tenant. The Oasis showed up in the City record
in August and September 2020 for the CZC for AFC Urgent Care and is depicted as a Restaurant and
Event Bar of a smaller square footage. The Oasis showed up in a photometric dated December 22, 2020
that was submitted to the City in early January 2021 with Oasis/Jamba Juice clearly depicted and that
photometric has since been replaced with a revised photometric dated for February 2021. End users for
Wadsworth were supposedly not known,yet nine days after your City Council December 22, 2020
approval of Wadsworth Subdivision an affidavit of legal interest is signed on New Year's Eve 2020 giving
Balboa Ventures LLC the right to file applications on Wadsworth Development's behalf.
You have many invested and vetted residents in close proximity whose home lives will be markedly
upset by this business model. As we tout the need for diversity of homes that aren't on big lots within
the expectations of the stereotypical subdivision within the suburban fabric, it doesn't mean a
townhome community or apartment community should not have a reasonable and equitable quality of
life and welcoming respite of home, despite proximities to other uses. I also think there needs to be an
improvement in anticipating the needs for improvement in roads, lanes, and quantifying the traffic
impacts of all nearby developments as a whole,for there were past grievous failures that the residents
of Jackson Square and other communities must bear due to unintentional mistakes and short-
sightedness...I sincerely believe there is great room for improvement. There are five drive-thru
establishments as well (Sadie Creek,Jimmy John's, the pending Dutch Bros,the expected
Wienerschnitzel, and tenant Jamba Juice) all utilizing that skinny Private Lane Roundabout to and from
Eagle Road and the Private Picard Private that is deeded to and maintained by Jackson Square HOA
without additional impact funds from current and coming development slated to augment Jackson
Squares HOA's coffers.
Thank you.
Malissa Bernard, Meridian resident for nine years and local resident for 25 years
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Public Presentations and Documents
GUARDING OUR REJECT THE OASIS TREASURE
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ITEM TOPIC: Ordinance No.: 21-1935: An Ordinance (H-2021-0014 —Artemisia
Subdivision) for Annexation of a Parcel Being a Portion of the SE % of the SE % of Section 14,
Township 3 North, Range 1 West, Ada County, Idaho, and Being More Particularly Described in
Attachment "A" and Annexing Certain Lands and Territory, Situated in Ada County, Idaho, and
Adjacent and Contiguous to the Corporate Limits of the City of Meridian as Requested by the City
of Meridian; Establishing and Determining the Land Use Zoning Classification of 25.67 Acres of
Land from RUT to C-G (General Retail and Service Commercial) Zoning District in the Meridian
City Code; Providing that Copies of this Ordinance Shall be Filed with the Ada County Assessor,
the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as Required by Law; and
Providing for a Summary of the Ordinance; and Providing for a Waiver of the Reading Rules, and
Providing an Effective Date
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ADA COUNTY RECORDER Phil McGrane 2021-109419
BOISE IDAHO Pgs=4 BONNIE OBERBILLIG 07/22/2021 09:55 AM
CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO NO FEE
CITY OF MERIDIAN ORDINANCE NO.21-1935
BY THE CITY COUNCIL: BERNT,BORTON,CAVENER,
HOAGLUN,PERREAULT, STRADER
AN ORDINANCE (H-2021-0014 — ARTESIMIA SUBDIVISION) FOR
ANNEXATION OF A PARCEL BEING A PORTION OF THE SE '/4 OF THE SE '/4 OF
SECTION 14, TOWNSHIP 3 NORTH, RANGE 1 WEST, ADA COUNTY, IDAHO, AND
BEING MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN ATTACHMENT "A" AND
ANNEXING CERTAIN LANDS AND TERRITORY, SITUATED IN ADA COUNTY,
IDAHO,AND ADJACENT AND CONTIGUOUS TO THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE
CITY OF MERIDIAN AS REQUESTED BY THE CITY OF MERIDIAN;ESTABLISHING
AND DETERMINING THE LAND USE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF 25.67 ACRES
OF LAND FROM RUT TO C-G (GENERAL RETAIL AND SERVICE COMMERCIAL)
ZONING DISTRICT IN THE MERIDIAN CITY CODE; PROVIDING THAT COPIES OF
THIS ORDINANCE SHALL BE FILED WITH THE ADA COUNTY ASSESSOR, THE
ADA COUNTY RECORDER, AND THE IDAHO STATE TAX COMMISSION, AS
REQUIRED BY LAW; AND PROVIDING FOR A SUMMARY OF THE ORDINANCE;
AND PROVIDING FOR A WAIVER OF THE READING RULES; AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE.
BE IT ORDAINED BY THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF MERIDIAN, COUNTY OF ADA, STATE OF IDAHO:
SECTION 1. That the following described land as evidenced by attached Legal
Description herein incorporated by reference as Exhibit"A" are within the corporate limits of the
City of Meridian,Idaho,and that the City of Meridian has received a written request for annexation
and re-zoning by the owner of said property,to-wit:Idaho Auto Mall, LLC.
SECTION 2. That the above-described real property is hereby annexed and re-zoned from
RUT to C-G(General Retail and Service Commercial)Zoning Districts in the Meridian City Code.
SECTION 3. That the City has authority pursuant to the laws of the State of Idaho, and the
Ordinances of the City of Meridian to annex and zone said property.
SECTION 4. That the City has complied with all the noticing requirements pursuant to the
laws of the State of Idaho, and the Ordinances of the City of Meridian to annex and re-zone said
property.
SECTION 5. That the City Engineer is hereby directed to alter all use and area maps as
well as the official zoning maps, and all official maps depicting the boundaries and the zoning
districts of the City of Meridian in accordance with this ordinance.
SECTION 6. All ordinances, resolutions, orders or parts thereof in conflict herewith are
hereby repealed,rescinded and annulled.
Item#7.
SECTION 7. This ordinance shall be in full force and effect from and after its passage,
approval and publication, according to law.
SECTION 8. The Clerk of the City of Meridian shall, within ten (10) days following the
effective date of this ordinance, duly file a certified copy of this ordinance and a map prepared in a
draftsman manner, including the lands herein rezoned, with the following officials of the County
of Ada, State of Idaho, to-wit: the Recorder, Auditor, Treasurer and Assessor and shall also file
simultaneously a certified copy of this ordinance and map with the State Tax Commission of the
State of Idaho.
SECTION 9. That pursuant to the affirmative vote of one-half(1/2) plus one (1) of the
Members of the full Council,the rule requiring two(2)separate readings by title and one(1)reading
in full be, and the same is hereby, dispensed with, and accordingly, this Ordinance shall be in full
force and effect upon its passage, approval and publication.
PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO, this
20th day of July , 2021.
APPROVED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN,IDAHO, this
20th day of JulY , 2021.
MAYOR ROBERT E. SIMISON
ATTEST:
CHRIS JOHNSON, CITY CLERK
STATE OF IDAHO, )
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County of Ada )
On this 20th day of July ,2021,before me,the undersigned,a Notary Public in and for said
State,personally appeared ROBERT E.SIMISON and CHRIS JOHNSON known to me to be the Mayor and City
Clerk,respectively,of the City of Meridian,Idaho,and who executed the within instrument,and acknowledged to me
that the City of Meridian executed the same.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF,I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal the day and year first
above written.
NOTARY PUBLIC FOR IDAHO
RESIDING AT: Meridian, Idaho
MY COMMISSION EXPIRES: 3-28-2022
ANNEXATION ORDINANCE—Artemisia Subdivision(H 2O21-0014) Page 2 of 3
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EXHIBIIT A
Legal Description
Annexation & C-G Rezone — Proposed Artemisia Subdivision
A parcel being a portion of the SE'1,of the SE'!4 of Section 14, Township� North, Flange 1 West,
Boise Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, and more particularly described as follows'
BEGINNING at a Brass Cap monument marking the southeast corner of said Section 14, from
which an Aluminum Cap monument marking the southwest comer of the SE Y,of said Section 14
bears N 89'19'41'W a distance of 2W1.88 feet;
Thence along the southerly boundary of said SE X of the SE %, also being the cent,edine of VV.
CYveriand Road, N 8V18'41' a distance of 923.89 feet to a paint;
Thence leaving said centerline and southerly boundary N 0°44'19" E o distance of 1210.11 feet
to point on the centerline of Interstate 84:
Thence along said centerline S 89°34'D2" E a distance of 921.31 feet to a paint on the easterly
boundary of said SE %of the SE '14, also being th,e centerline of S. Linder Road;
Thence leaving the centerline of said Interstate 84 and along said easterly boundary and S. Linder
Road Centerline S 0°32'59"Wa distance of 1213-05 feet to the POINT or BEGINNING.
This pamoll Contains 25.57 acres and is subject to any easements existing or in use.
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Item#7. EXHIBIT B
CITY OF MERIDIAN ANNEXATION & C-GFE
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Item #7.
CERTIFICATION OF SUMMARY .
William L.M. Nary, City Attorney of the City of Meridian, Idaho, hereby certifies that the
summary below is true and complete and upon its publication will provide adequate notice to
the public .
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William L . M . Nary, hty Attorney
SUMMARY OF CITY OF MERIDIAN ORDINANCE NO. 214935
An Ordinance (H-2021 -0014 — Artemisia Subdivision) for annexation of a parcel being a portion
of the SE '/4 of the SE '/4 of Section 14, Township 3 North, Range 1 West, Boise Meridian, Ada
County, Idaho and being more particularly described in the map published herewith; establishing
and determining the land use zoning classification of 25 . 67 acres of land from RUT to C-G (General
Retail and Service Commercial) zoning district; providing that copies of this ordinance shall be
filed with the Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax
Commission, as required by law; and providing an effective date. A full text of this ordinance is
available for inspection at City Hall, City of Meridian, 33 East Broadway Avenue, Meridian, Idaho .
This ordinance shall be effective as of the date of publication of this summary.
[Publication to include map as set forth in Exhibit B . ]
ANNEXATION ORDINANCE — Artemisia Subdivision (H 2O214014) Page 3 of 3
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