PZ - Emergency Access ClarificationFrom:Joe Bongiorno
To:Sonya Allen; Matthew Adams
Cc:Alan Tiefenbach; Tamara Thompson; Michael Thomas
Subject:Re: Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
Date:Thursday, May 7, 2020 9:23:30 PM
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Also, what happens when mcdermott goes away? What is the plan for secondary access once the first one gets cut
off? If this is a dead end, you will be limted to 30 building lots counting everything prior to this property. Do you
have access from the south or north across the ditch?
Joseph Bongiorno CFI, CFEI
Deputy Chief - Fire Marshal
Meridian Fire Department
33 E Broadway Ave., She. 210, Meridian, ID 83646
Direct: 208-489-0458 Cell: 208-936-9554
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From: Sonya Allen
Date: Thu, May 7, 2020 7:57 PM
To: Joe Bongiorno;Matthew Adams;
Cc: Alan Tiefenbach;Tamara Thompson;Michael Thomas;
Subject:RE: Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
In order for the area to count toward qualified open space standards it has to be improved per the
standards in UDC 11-3G-3E (i.e. it has to be
improved with lawn and one deciduous tree per 8,000 s.f.).
From: Joe Bongiorno <jbongiorno@meridiancity.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 7:23 PM
To: Matthew Adams <matt@thelandgroupinc.com>; Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>; Tamara Thompson
<tamara@thelandgroupinc.com>; Michael Thomas <mthomas@thelandgroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
Check with Sonya. I believe they require the access to have 5 feet of landscaping on each side of the 20 feet drive.
Surface can be 3/4" base, or Decomposed granite or paved. Needs to hold 80,000 pounds, be all weather and be able
to be maintained 365 days a year (needs to be plowable). Becky did a beautiful drive in the golf course. They put 1
foot wide ribbon curbing on each side with a super compact smooth DG surface. It looks really nice.
Joseph Bongiorno CFI, CFEI
Deputy Chief - Fire Marshal
Meridian Fire Department
33 E Broadway Ave., She. 210, Meridian, ID 83646
Direct: 208-489-0458 Cell: 208-936-9554
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------ Original message------
From: Matthew Adams
Date: Thu, May 7, 2020 6:09 PM
To: Joe Bongiorno;
Cc: Alan Tiefenbach;Tamara Thompson;Michael Thomas;
Subject:RE: Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
Joe –
We need this area to be landscape to hit our open space calculations, is there a product that is
acceptable? What surface would you prefer?
principal | landscape architect
matthew t. adams
THE LAND GROUP | thelandgroupinc.com | 208.939.4041
From: Joe Bongiorno <jbongiorno@meridiancity.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 6:08 PM
To: Matthew Adams <matt@thelandgroupinc.com>
Cc: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>; Tamara Thompson
<tamara@thelandgroupinc.com>; Michael Thomas <mthomas@thelandgroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
No. Grass crete is not approved. I quit approving it last year.
Joseph Bongiorno CFI, CFEI
Deputy Chief - Fire Marshal
Meridian Fire Department
33 E Broadway Ave., She. 210, Meridian, ID 83646
Direct: 208-489-0458 Cell: 208-936-9554
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------ Original message------
From: Matthew Adams
Date: Thu, May 7, 2020 6:02 PM
To: Joe Bongiorno;
Cc: Alan Tiefenbach;Tamara Thompson;Michael Thomas;
Subject:RE: Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
Joe –
Yes, the red line is an all-weather, maintained gravel drive suitable for emergency vehicles. We can
provide grasscrete access at the orange line. Sounds like that is what you need. Agree?
principal | landscape architect
matthew t. adams
THE LAND GROUP | thelandgroupinc.com | 208.939.4041
From: Joe Bongiorno <jbongiorno@meridiancity.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 5:50 PM
To: Matthew Adams <matt@thelandgroupinc.com>
Cc: Alan Tiefenbach <atiefenbach@meridiancity.org>; Tamara Thompson
<tamara@thelandgroupinc.com>; Michael Thomas <mthomas@thelandgroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
Is the red line the access? Of so, the two accesses have to be 1/2 the diagonal of the property apart. Which would
put it near the common lot in question.
Joseph Bongiorno CFI, CFEI
Deputy Chief - Fire Marshal
Meridian Fire Department
33 E Broadway Ave., She. 210, Meridian, ID 83646
Direct: 208-489-0458 Cell: 208-936-9554
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------ Original message------
From: Matthew Adams
Date: Thu, May 7, 2020 5:47 PM
To: Joe Bongiorno;
Cc: Alan Tiefenbach;Tamara Thompson;Michael Thomas;
Subject:Chukar Ridge Subdivision (H-2020-0025): Emergency Access Clarification
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Good Afternoon Joe –
We are working through the final details of the Pre-Plat for Chukar Ridge Subdivision (Spriggel
Parcel) at the north east corner of the new Owyhee HS. A question came up during the open space
discussion and we need your input. Please see attached exhibit for reference.
The question is whether or not we need to provide emergency access though one of the landscape
common lots. If you could provide some guidance on this we would appreciate it.
Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you,
principal | landscape architect
matthew t. adams
208.939.4041 | p
208.921.4757 | c
462 e shore dr, ste 100
eagle, idaho 83616
matt@thelandgroupinc.com
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