PZ - Commission questions to Planning
Charlene Way
From:Chris Johnson
Sent:Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:51 PM
To:Charlene Way
Subject:FW: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and
Teleconference Information
From: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:50 PM
To: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan
Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>; Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue <apogue@meridiancity.org>; Chris Johnson
<cjohnson@meridiancity.org>
Subject: FW: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
Commissioners, please see Austin’s response below to the earlier question from Commissioner Cassinelli.
From: Austin Miller <Amiller@achdidaho.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:29 PM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
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Hi Sonya,
Based on the proposed configuration of Centrepoint Way I don’t believe Della could be designed to intersect
Centrepoint Way while meeting our design standards. Particularly the minimum centerline radius of a curve and
minimum tangent length approaching an intersection.
However, we had originally discussed shifting (or beginning to shift) Centrepoint Way as part of this development. The
applicant was able to provide a concept for the Wong parcel that would connect Centrepoint Way to the north while
meeting our policies. As everything could be done meeting our policies, we couldn’t require it to be redesigned.
However I believe that if City Council would like Centrepoint Way to begin its shift to the east with this development, it
can be done to meet ACHD standards. Likely making the configuration of a Della/Centrepoint intersection feasible.
I hope I am understanding and addressing Commissioner Cassinelli’s concerns. Please let me know if any clarification is
needed.
Thank you,
Austin Miller
Ada County Highway District
Planner II, Development Services
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1301 N. Orchard St. Ste. 200
Phone: (208) 387-6335
From: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 11:46 AM
To: Austin Miller <Amiller@achdidaho.org>
Cc: Mindy Wallace <Mwallace@achdidaho.org>
Subject: FW: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
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Austin, please see Commission Cassinelli’s comments/questions below and respond. thanks
From: Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:02 PM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan
Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>; Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue
<apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Re: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
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Sonya,
Finally getting to Austin's comments. Thank you for getting these.
I understand what he is saying. However, when Centerpointe is extended in the future, Della and/or Jasmine could be designed to
intersect Centerpointe outside of the "S" curve at a 90 degree. There are MANY examples of collectors that have bends in them with
intersections.
Additionally, could Centerpointe be designed to have less of an "S" curve? This might mean intersecting the plat for the multi-
family. However, as Centerpointe is laid out now, it pretty much splits the Wong parcel down the middle while preserving ALL of this
applicant's multifamily parcel. As long as Centerpointe has to curve to be connected to Wainwright, shouldn't that "burden" be
shared by both parties and not all by any future development on the Wong parcel? The way it is laid out does not seem fair.
Would you mind checking with Austin as to the possibility of this in the future?
Thank you,
Bill
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:04 AM Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org> wrote:
Thanks Austin!
Commissioners – Please see Austin’s response below to the questions from Patty and Bill.
From: Austin Miller <Amiller@achdidaho.org>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:15 AM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Mindy Wallace <Mwallace@achdidaho.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
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Hi Sonya,
The spacing between Della and Jasmine can be constructed to meet the 330-foot requirement on Centrepoint Way,
that isn’t the issue. My largest concern was the sight distance.
Knowing that as Centrepoint Way is extended to the north it will have to make a substantial jog to the east, an
intersection near the northern portion of the Wong property would be on the inside of a sharp curve. To see
approaching vehicles, drivers would have to look far over their shoulder, looking behind them. Even with proper
easements in place to ensure site lines it is a troublesome scenario and would create a situation I did not feel was safe.
Hopefully that helps explain where I was coming from. If further information is needed please let me know.
Thank you,
Austin Miller
Ada County Highway District
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Planner II, Development Services
1301 N. Orchard St. Ste. 200
Phone: (208) 387-6335
From: Mindy Wallace <Mwallace@achdidaho.org>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:15 AM
To: Austin Miller <Amiller@achdidaho.org>
Subject: FW: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
Importance: High
Austin,
Can you please review and get back to Sonya this morning.
Thanks,
Mindy
From: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:05 PM
To: Mindy Wallace <Mwallace@achdidaho.org>
Subject: FW: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
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Mindy, please see Commissioner Pitzer’s email below. Can you provide some more information as requested please?
thanks
From: P and D Pitzer <PITZER2020@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 5:11 PM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>; Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>;
Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue <apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly
<aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
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Hi Sonya.
Thank you for this information.
However I do not know the context of the entire conversation between Mr Clarke and Mr Miller as this is is
but a single snippet.
I believe my specific question was, would ACHD allow a stub street to Centrepoint if the 330' exist. If not,
then why not.
Thank you.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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From: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Date: 4/10/20 4:48 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>, Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>, Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>, Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>, Rhonda McCarvel
<RMCCarvel@msn.com>, Ryan Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>, Chris Johnson
<cjohnson@meridiancity.org>, Andrea Pogue <apogue@meridiancity.org>, Adrienne Weatherly
<aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
Actually, I remembered after I emailed you back that we had information pertaining to your question from ACHD;
here’s a link: https://weblink.meridiancity.org/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=184691&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity . If you
still need additional info, let me know. Thanks
From: Sonya Allen
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:33 PM
To: 'Bill Cassinelli' <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan
Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>; Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue
<apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
Commission Cassinelli,
Yes, I emailed Mindy at ACHD and will forward her response to you as soon as I receive it.
Thanks,
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Sonya
From: Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:19 PM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan
Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>; Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue
<apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Re: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
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Sonya,
Would you mind checking with ACHD on this to find out WHY they will not allow Della to stub to the east for future connection to
Centerpointe? (Other than they just won't allow it!)
Thank you!
Bill
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:30 PM Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org> wrote:
Good afternoon,
The agenda for next Thursday’s Planning and Zoning Commission meeting can be found here.
We are still using teleconference technology to facilitate meetings. All commissioners are requested to join
the meeting from their remote location. Instructions to join the meeting on Thursday are here:
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Join from a PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone or Android device:
Please click this URL to join. https://zoom.us/j/136157427
Description: Regular meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission
Or join by phone:
Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 346 248 7799 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 929 205
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Webinar ID: 136 157 427
International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/aCQBhHHzu
Please let me know if you will be attending the meeting so we may establish a quorum. Thank you and have a
wonderful weekend!
Adrienne Weatherly
Deputy City Clerk | City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208.888-4433|Email: aweatherly@meridiancity.org
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Charlene Way
From:Charlene Way
Sent:Wednesday, April 15, 2020 10:03 AM
To:Charlene Way
Subject:RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference
Information
Charlene Way | Assistant City Clerk
City of Meridian | City Clerk’s Office
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: | 208-489-0394 FAX: 208-888-4218
From: Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:02 PM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan
Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>; Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue
<apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Re: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
Sonya,
Finally getting to Austin's comments. Thank you for getting these.
I understand what he is saying. However, when Centerpointe is extended in the future, Della and/or Jasmine could be designed to
intersect Centerpointe outside of the "S" curve at a 90 degree. There are MANY examples of collectors that have bends in them with
intersections.
Additionally, could Centerpointe be designed to have less of an "S" curve? This might mean intersecting the plat for the multi-
family. However, as Centerpointe is laid out now, it pretty much splits the Wong parcel down the middle while preserving ALL of this
applicant's multifamily parcel. As long as Centerpointe has to curve to be connected to Wainwright, shouldn't that "burden" be
shared by both parties and not all by any future development on the Wong parcel? The way it is laid out does not seem fair.
Would you mind checking with Austin as to the possibility of this in the future?
Thank you,
Bill
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:04 AM Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org> wrote:
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Thanks Austin!
Commissioners – Please see Austin’s response below to the questions from Patty and Bill.
From: Austin Miller <Amiller@achdidaho.org>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:15 AM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Mindy Wallace <Mwallace@achdidaho.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
Hi Sonya,
The spacing between Della and Jasmine can be constructed to meet the 330-foot requirement on Centrepoint Way,
that isn’t the issue. My largest concern was the sight distance.
Knowing that as Centrepoint Way is extended to the north it will have to make a substantial jog to the east, an
intersection near the northern portion of the Wong property would be on the inside of a sharp curve. To see
approaching vehicles, drivers would have to look far over their shoulder, looking behind them. Even with proper
easements in place to ensure site lines it is a troublesome scenario and would create a situation I did not feel was safe.
Hopefully that helps explain where I was coming from. If further information is needed please let me know.
Thank you,
Austin Miller
Ada County Highway District
Planner II, Development Services
2
1301 N. Orchard St. Ste. 200
Phone: (208) 387-6335
From: Mindy Wallace <Mwallace@achdidaho.org>
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 8:15 AM
To: Austin Miller <Amiller@achdidaho.org>
Subject: FW: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
Importance: High
Austin,
Can you please review and get back to Sonya this morning.
Thanks,
Mindy
From: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:05 PM
To: Mindy Wallace <Mwallace@achdidaho.org>
Subject: FW: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
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Mindy, please see Commissioner Pitzer’s email below. Can you provide some more information as requested please?
thanks
From: P and D Pitzer <PITZER2020@msn.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 5:11 PM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>; Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>;
Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue <apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly
<aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
Hi Sonya.
Thank you for this information.
However I do not know the context of the entire conversation between Mr Clarke and Mr Miller as this is is
but a single snippet.
I believe my specific question was, would ACHD allow a stub street to Centrepoint if the 330' exist. If not,
then why not.
Thank you.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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-------- Original message --------
From: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Date: 4/10/20 4:48 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>, Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>, Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>, Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>, Rhonda McCarvel
<RMCCarvel@msn.com>, Ryan Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>, Chris Johnson
<cjohnson@meridiancity.org>, Andrea Pogue <apogue@meridiancity.org>, Adrienne Weatherly
<aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
Actually, I remembered after I emailed you back that we had information pertaining to your question from ACHD;
here’s a link: https://weblink.meridiancity.org/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=184691&dbid=0&repo=MeridianCity . If you
still need additional info, let me know. Thanks
From: Sonya Allen
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:33 PM
To: 'Bill Cassinelli' <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan
Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>; Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue
<apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: RE: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
Commission Cassinelli,
Yes, I emailed Mindy at ACHD and will forward her response to you as soon as I receive it.
Thanks,
Sonya
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From: Bill Cassinelli <wcassinelli@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:19 PM
To: Sonya Allen <sallen@meridiancity.org>
Cc: Andrew Seal <andyseal70@gmail.com>; Lisa Holland <lisab.holland@yahoo.com>; Nick Grove
<nickgrove15@gmail.com>; Patricia Pitzer <pitzer2020@msn.com>; Rhonda McCarvel <RMCCarvel@msn.com>; Ryan
Fitzgerald <ryan@vizcayagroup.com>; Chris Johnson <cjohnson@meridiancity.org>; Andrea Pogue
<apogue@meridiancity.org>; Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org>
Subject: Re: 4/16/2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Agenda and Teleconference Information
External Sender - Please use caution with links or attachments.
Sonya,
Would you mind checking with ACHD on this to find out WHY they will not allow Della to stub to the east for future connection to
Centerpointe? (Other than they just won't allow it!)
Thank you!
Bill
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 12:30 PM Adrienne Weatherly <aweatherly@meridiancity.org> wrote:
Good afternoon,
The agenda for next Thursday’s Planning and Zoning Commission meeting can be found here.
We are still using teleconference technology to facilitate meetings. All commissioners are requested to join
the meeting from their remote location. Instructions to join the meeting on Thursday are here:
Join from a PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone or Android device:
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Please click this URL to join. https://zoom.us/j/136157427
Description: Regular meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission
Or join by phone:
Dial(for higher quality, dial a number based on your current location):
US: +1 669 900 6833 or +1 346 248 7799 or +1 301 715 8592 or +1 312 626 6799 or +1 929 205 6099 or +1 253
215 8782
Webinar ID: 136 157 427
International numbers available: https://zoom.us/u/aCQBhHHzu
Please let me know if you will be attending the meeting so we may establish a quorum. Thank you and have a
wonderful weekend!
Adrienne Weatherly
Deputy City Clerk | City of Meridian
33 E. Broadway Ave., Meridian, Idaho 83642
Phone: 208.888-4433|Email: aweatherly@meridiancity.org
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