2019-08-13 ACHD Joint MeetingMeridian City Council - ACHD Joint August 13, 2019.
A Meeting of the Meridian City Council and ACHD was called to order at 3:00 p.m.,
Tuesday, August 13, 2019, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Tammy de Weerd, Joe Borton, Luke Cavener (Telephone), Genesis
Milam, Ty Palmer, Anne Little Roberts and Treg Bernt.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
A. Meridian City Council
X__ Anne Little Roberts X _ _Joe Borton
X__ Ty Palmer X__ Treg Bernt
__X___Genesis Milam __X___Lucas Cavener
__X__ Mayor Tammy de Weerd
B. Ada County Highway District Commissioners
__X__ Jim Hansen __X___ Mary May
__X__ Sara Baker __X___ Kent Goldthorpe
__X____ Rebecca W. Arnold, President
De Weerd: Okay. I will go ahead and call this meeting to order. It is the joint meeting
between Meridian City Council and our esteemed Ada County Highway District
Commission. So, with that I will ask for roll call attendance from our Clerk.
Item 2: Adoption of Agenda
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you so much. And welcome to the Council Chambers to our
commission. Thank you for joining us. Okay. Item No. 2 is adoption of the agenda.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
Borton: Move we adopt the agenda as published.
Little Roberts: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. All those in
favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
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Item 3: Discussion Topics
A. City of Meridian: Comprehensive Plan Update
De Weerd: Item 3 is discussion topics and I know first up is Cameron with an update on
our Comprehensive Plan.
Arial: Madam Mayor, Members of the Commission, it's a pleasure to be with you. I
wanted to give you just a brief update on where we are with our comprehensive planning
process and some of the -- the unique and exciting things that are happening with that.
Just to kind of step through a little bit of some context, you know, the original plan here
was adopted in 2002 and we have grown a little bit as you know since then and it was the
-- you know, the -- the initiative of this Council that said that, you know, it's probably time
that we really take another hard look at our comp plan. There were, you know, updates
here and there in 2011 and, then, a little bit more here and there on an annual basis, but,
really, this will be the most meaningful update that we have made in -- in over 15 years.
So, we feel like this is going to be a fresh new and important look at -- at our community.
So, just real quick -- and I don't need to rehash what you already know, but this is a -- this
is an important document for us. It's the guiding principles by which we will move forward
with our land use and certainly just with some of the strategic policies that -- that will
accompany and follow the implementation of our Comprehensive Plan. So, the process
by which we have gone to -- we have gotten to this point will -- you will see that in future
slides here, but it is a really important process that we are going through to really define
that future and that vision for our community. But as you know there is these -- these
elements to a comp plan. The one that we are going to really focus in on is in Chapter 3
of the Strategic Growth Elements where we have the foci, if you will, of our transportation
policy, as well as, you know, other elements, but you can see here there is certain things
that we are required to include and highlighted here are those things that are most
pertinent for this discussion and, then, of course, you know, a big part of -- of our comp
plan -- any comp plan is the actual future land use map that accompanies that and we will
talk a little bit more about that as well. So, the new plan -- did mention briefly we -- we
hired a consulting group, Logan Simpson, in 2018. We engaged a very broad and diverse
steering committee. Councilman Bernt is on that, as well as Justin has been a part of
that committee and a whole host of folks, developers, citizens, interested parties,
consultants, people that are, you know, in the -- in the various industries and feel like we
have really got a good group that it's just meeting consistently to keep the thing rolling
and it's a big -- it's a big bite, but a great group that -- that we have been moving through
this with. Again, this is not a -- you know, just throw out the old plan, but really taking the
good from it and moving that forward and/or revamping the things that -- that maybe need
a little bit of a touch with -- with our growth. And, again, just kind of focusing on -- in on a
few key points here. The future growth management public services -- services piece,
you know, intro to the city, as well as just from our community, we -- we are getting a lot
of concerned citizens that -- that are asking about this point and so we are starting to see
that borne out in the Comprehensive Plan drafting process and seeing those things in a
policy form. Of course, again, pertinent to this discussion is the transportation and
economic development components of that, you know, really excited about our
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consultants Kittelson, who is helping us with the master mobility plan in conjunction with
our partners Justin and others, ACHD, COMPASS, and others are involved in
transportation planning of our Comprehensive Plan and we will talk a little bit more about
-- about each of these specific elements, but this just gives you a taste of the things that
we are -- are coming through in the Comprehensive Plan, rail transit, freight, bike,
pedestrian and there is some other forward-looking things as well. But we, again, just
appreciate ACHD's partnership in this. You know, you serve a key role clearly in -- in our
success of the growth of our community and, you know, transportation, obviously, is a --
is a key issue for -- for our community. We do look forward to an adoption. We will -- we
have closed at least the survey and public comment to the draft of the comp plan. We
look forward to having it before our Planning and Zoning Commission likely in October
and, then, in front of our City Council for adoption and full discussion and potential
adoption hopefully in November, December at the latest. So, what really is kind of the
key themes that have been percolating through this -- and it's important to note that as
staff and as we approached this process we really want to make this a Meridian
document. It is not staff. This is -- this is -- this is our community's document and so we,
in my view, gone over -- above and beyond to make sure we are engaging with our
community. We are going out to them at community events. We are surveying them. We
are calling them. We are holding City Hall events, both telephonically, as well as in
person. Just a gamut of things. We have a website dedicated to this process and trying
to make it as very accessible and readable and understandable to our community as
possible and that's been well-received. I'm happy to, you know, report that in the
thousands of responses that -- that our community has come out and said these are the
things that matter to us and -- and we want to see this in our future community and so
with that said there is these five elements that have kind of percolated to the top and,
again, the one we will focus most on is the connected -- connected community, as that's
where, again, in the -- in the draft where all of the transportation policy resides. So, you
can see here here is just a few of those ideas that have really kind of hit the -- hit the --
hit the top here, you know, that it's -- we are -- we are looking at different types of the
modes of transportation that we are planning for it and designing it well, that it's -- it's just
automobile centric, but it's also pedestrian, bicycle, that there is a public transit element
to it as well. Then also utilizing our -- our rail corridor for multiple uses, including freight.
That -- that's coming through. Certainly improve the efficiency of the system, you know,
and that can be done, obviously, through planning, through design and we will talk a little
bit more about the new technology as well. But just trying to -- not being on the bleeding
edge of those things, but certainly be progressive as -- as that's what we are hearing from
our community. Embrace Meridian's location. So, as many of you know it's no secret we
are right smack dab in the heart of our valley and we feel everyone's transit concerns.
So, we -- we -- we want to make sure we are embracing that, that we are that heart and
we want to be the -- again, our community wants to be seen as that connected hub, if you
will. And, then, lastly, here is the transportation corridors. You know, we see this from a
land use and future land use map perspective is a -- is a really key component to our
future success. Are we identifying those corridors that, then, we can, again, couple with,
you know, density discussions and other land use discussions that make the most sense
for our community. So, identifying those and making sure that we are planning
accordingly to make that -- that transportation as efficient as possible. So, in the comp
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plan process we did have a focus group, a subcommittee if you will, of steering committee
members, as well as other participants. You can kind of see there we had multiple
meetings. This was also in conjunction with our transportation consultant, as well as the
comp plan consultant. So, they helped us facilitate this and really kind of come up with
what does are connected community look like. Of course, we -- you know, that's kind of
become this master mobility map and some of the -- you know, the ideas that are
incorporated in that. But we try to make sure that we are -- we are rolling this into other
transportation planning as well, so that, you know, again, transit, land use, and, of course,
VRT's Valley Connect 2.0. So, this is a lot of gobbledygook, but I will -- this is just some
of those key draft policies that have been -- that I wanted to pull out and we wanted to
highlight for you all to kind of just express how this is going to take shape at least in policy
form as we move forward with this -- this comp plan process. So, you know, we can
always improve our coordination and that's -- that's the commitment of the city -- city staff
and our leadership to really be as proactive and as helpful to our transportation partners
as possible, including ACHD. We value the -- the relationships that we have and just
really appreciate that partnership and we look forward to -- to growing that and expanding
that. You can see here we want to very much partner to establish and implement a system
of performance measurements. So, how do we -- how do we know that we are
accomplishing the goals that we -- we need to be accomplishing. So, establish the metric
to that and -- and hold -- hold ourselves as city staff and others accountable to that, so
that we can be reporting to our -- to our public and to our citizens on that progress. We
really look forward to that as an opportunity, you know, let's -- let's celebrate those
successes that -- that -- that do happen. Again, we -- we do see our rail corridor as an
obvious focus for our community and certainly for the valley regionally, but definitely for
Meridian. So, really working with our partners in -- in a rail, you know, partnership and --
and looking to best utilize that corridor and, again, including -- including freight. Another
here is, again, directly with ACHD here -- ACHD here is to more carefully examine the
appropriateness of roundabouts. That -- that was an issue that came up through the
steering committee and the -- and the -- and the focus group is how best to utilize that
transportation tool, making sure that it's -- it's appropriate in the locations that they are.
Now they may be a little bit difficult for pedestrian use and just making sure we are
planning those correctly. And, then, of course, working with the ITD and ACHD to
establish truck routes and design routes. So, making sure that we are conducting
commerce appropriate through -- throughout Meridian and, again, an efficiency element
there as well. And, then, lastly, this is kind of our forward -- forward-thinking policy, but,
you know, to evaluate future transportation services, you know, whether it be ride share
or autonomous vehicles and, you know, starting to try to lay the groundwork with that
even now with -- with some of our proposed plans with -- with VRT, our fixed bus route,
electric buses that, you know, could very easily become autonomous bus routes. So,
that's kind of the -- again kind of boiling down, you know, high level and, then, getting
down a little bit into the policy of kind of what has come out of this process. I would be
remiss if I didn't mention, you know, the second bullet here. I don't want to walk away
from that one. But certainly that's been an issue of -- of transit just in general and the
local -- local option idea and so that's something that -- that has come out loud and clear,
not only from the public, but also from the steering committee and focus group as well
and, then, you know, the multimodal complete streets for residents and businesses. This
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is something that we see -- we struggle with to be -- to be honest in our community. We
will have gaps in -- in sidewalks, gaps in there and how do we best plan and address
those -- those needs. And, then, continuing to work on our pathways and connectivity
that way throughout our community, whether it be pedestrian or bike, but just the -- the
connection through development and seeing that as a -- as a priority. So, with that
hopefully that was informative and look forward to any comments you may have and,
again, just to express our gratitude, not only to our -- to our Council for their support and
seeing the need to -- to go through this process, but also the ACHD's partnership, certainly
throughout, but going as -- as, you know, it will represent a lot of work, but important work
as we move forward. Stand for any questions that you may have.
De Weerd: Cameron, what are the next steps? What is the schedule as we roll out the
Comprehensive Plan?
Arial: Good question, Mayor. So, just briefly I think probably the high -- high points are
we need to -- we are in the process now of closing out our public comment and survey
and our consultant is now incorporating much of that into what we will call an updated
draft that will go to our Planning and Zoning Commission. We are hoping to be on an
agenda here either late September or in October for that and, then, having the -- that
discussion with Planning and Zoning. Based on an approval there we are hoping to get
to our Council in the November time frame.
De Weerd: Thank you. Are there questions or comments? Yes, Mr. Goldthorpe.
Goldthorpe: Yes. On the rail corridor, are you having any success with the railroad, either
the companies or are they getting harder to deal with?
Arial: Madam Mayor and Commissioner Goldthorpe, that's a great question. We -- we
have a pretty good working relationship with them. I feel like the -- you know, not to get
into too much detail, but we -- we have had good contacts with them. We feel like there
is progress being made with --
Goldthorpe: I'm well aware of the past. I just wondered specifically if it was getting any
better, not in generalities.
De Weerd: I guess I would say that, yes, there has been some personnel changes and
-- and they have indicated a -- a greater attitude towards working with the city on the
various items that we have collaborated on and COMPASS has a group that they have
put together that is -- that is putting a lot more detail together to start rolling that out. So,
you know that much better than anyone sitting up here. I think that's going to help, too.
But the first thing was the relationship and I think that we have made great progress with
them.
Goldthorpe: Good. Thanks.
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De Weerd: You bet. Other questions or comments? This is the first major update of our
land use planning map and that was -- the first major effort was in 2002. Since then we
did the Ten Mile area specific plan, which was the first plan that land use and
transportation were integrated into one plan. We are hoping that the involvement with
Ada County Highway District with our Comprehensive Plan will be -- will strengthen and
help integrate those plans together as well. So, I know that your staff has been part of
our process, which we sincerely appreciate. We can't stress enough how important that
involvement is. I think there was a recent article in the paper that talked about growth
and -- and I think in Meridian we have been pleased that we do grow to our
Comprehensive Plan. I think more so we have underperformed than overperformed in
the trips that we have put on the roads, but as we start continuing to grow up it makes it
even more important that the corridor widths are -- are consistent with the ACHD plans
and while we can say our infrastructure -- public infrastructure that -- services that we
provide is adequate, we can't speak on your behalf and we need that information from all
of you. So, thank you to staff that do step up and are engaged in -- in our discussions.
It's really important the center the Treasure Valley where we host everyone's cars and
makes it even more so. Again, any -- you guys are really quiet. You were so thorough,
Cameron, there are no questions.
Arial: I will take that as a compliment. Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay.
Arial: Thank you, Madam Mayor and Commission.
B. Ada County Highway District: Update on South Meridian
C. Ada County Highway District: Community Programs Update
E. Ada County Highway District: Update on Other Projects within
the City of Meridian
De Weerd: Our next item is an update on south Meridian from Ada County Highway
District and --
Cavener: Madam Mayor, this is Luke.
De Weerd: Hi, Luke.
Cavener: I apologize for interrupting the meeting. If possible to whoever speaks -- I don't
know if you are at the podium or whatnot -- to really speak into the microphone. It was a
real challenge to hear from Cameron. I'm sure the information was really great, but I just
wasn't in a place that I can hear and I apologize it's inconvenient, but I can hear you,
Madam Mayor, somewhat faint, but at least I can hear the words you were saying. I really
couldn't hear more than two or three words at a time with Cameron.
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De Weerd: Thank you. And -- and if you can't you have full permission to interrupt and
say, I'm sorry, I still can't hear. If you would have said that earlier we would have told
Cameron to articulate.
Cavener: Madam Mayor -- thank you. I didn't want to interrupt the meeting.
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Cavener?
Cavener: Oh. Madam Mayor, I just was saying thank you. I appreciate that.
De Weerd: Okay. You bet.
Lucas: I will do my best. No one has ever accused me of being quiet. So I think we will
be all right. Madam Mayor, Council and Commission President Arnold and Members of
the Commission, for the record my name is Justin Lucas. I'm the planning and
programming manager at the Ada County Highway District. Excuse me. I'm also the
liaison to the City of Meridian. I come to almost all of your City Council meetings. So, I'm
not always here, but many of them and --
De Weerd: Thank you. You are a survivor.
Lucas: And I appreciate that opportunity I was going to go ahead and run through -- there
are several items on the agenda that will be covered in this single presentation and as
always -- and I know you're not shy. If there is any questions or comments or thoughts
or you want further clarification just interrupt me and we can have a discussion or you can
discuss amongst yourselves any of the topics that we have in front of you today. We did
want to start by highlighting the fact that we are right in the middle of updating our
integrated five year work plan. This is our annual update where we present to the cities
our five year capital construction plan. The plan contains all kinds of projects. There is a
list that's included in front of you in hard copy of all of the projects that are scheduled in
Meridian within the integrated five year work plan. It's broken down by roads,
intersections, bridges, community programs, which are the sidewalk and bicycle and safe
routes to school projects and, then, any other projects that may be listed there. So, that
is in front of you and we are closing our public and agency comment period here coming
up on August 19th and the City of Meridian has always provided comments and request
to -- to ACHD and we appreciate that and I work in that area and I can tell you it matters.
We take your requests seriously and if you look and see when you request something
and it's high on your list, it usually happens. So, we are really proud of our ability to
respond to your request there. Along with that our budget adoption hearing is coming up
and, then, integrated five year work plan adoption is scheduled for September. So, this
year we do have a new map. So, you have a hard copy in front of you and if you go to
our website I just wanted to highlight this. You can actually bring up an interactive map
and you can zoom in and zoom out. All of the projects are there. You can click on them,
it will bring up all of the information about each individual project and so I just want to
highlight that. We are really proud of this tool. We created it two or three years ago and
it's enhanced every single year and so we are -- really, the plan is the map. I mean it's --
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it's a graphical depiction of all of the projects. So, just to jump into the specific agenda
items that you had requested. There was a -- a specific request to look at south Meridian
and so I threw up a map here of the various projects, intersection, roadway and
maintenance projects planned for in the south Meridian area and there is more detail
about each of these projects in the information in front of you. What I wanted to highlight
and, then, you can see that graphically, is that we are in short order looking to work on
South Ten Mile Road, extending Ten Mile all the way down to Victory and, then, improving
that intersection and there is a bridge right there also. This is a critical connection. When
Overland was realigned several years ago we included the connection to the new
Overland and this connection has become kind of a bottleneck, so that is a project that
you can see highlighted there and, then, I wanted to also focus your attention to South
Locust Grove Road, which I know has been an emphasis area for the City of Meridian,
bridges, obviously roadway projects, a schedule there that we are working on and various
other projects in that area and, then, the other one is South Eagle Road, which, obviously,
Eagle is a connection to the freeway. There has been a lot of development activity in that
area and in this updated integrated five year work plan there has been a -- a new
emphasis on South Eagle Road and the importance of that connection up to the freeway.
So, as I stated, there is a lot more information in the packet I gave you. I also wanted to
highlight a few bikeway projects that we show up as future projects here, but in our new
roadways to bikeways plan we have identified those purple that -- you can see them --
and some of them in purple there -- and I guess I can use the mouse here. So, this is a
bikeway project that uses those local roads -- the low stress roads we call him to connect
us to this part of south Meridian at the community and, then, Stoddard has been a road
that receives a lot of attention, because of the new middle school there and some of the
other challenges on that road and we have identified that road as something we need to
study and look at it as something we can improve. So, there is a lot going on in south
Meridian. I think this reflects the city's emphasis in this area and I will have a little bit
more graphical depiction of some of these projects as I move through the -- the
presentation, but I wanted to highlight that as a specific agenda item that you had
requested. I can pause and see if you have any questions. All right. Well, let's talk about
community programs within the City of Meridian. This highlights once again those
bikeway projects you can see that I talk about down in south Meridian. These dots
represent specific protected crossings. The majority of these are associated with school
walk routes. This is the project at Victory -- Victory and Standing Timber. This is on South
Locust Grove. I think that road is called either Palermo -- it's in the -- it's in the list there.
I'm not recognizing it immediately and this one is on South Eagle Road. This is the
bikeway I mentioned. In north Meridian of note when we are working on these capital
improvements along Ten Mile Road those are not just roadway widening projects, we are
actually adding a significant amount of pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure and various
crossings that are indicated in those red dots on the Ten Mile corridor. That's a practice
that the Ada County Highway District has been doing for several years. When we are
designing these wider facilities to accommodate the traffic demands from growth we have
been including sometimes multiple pedestrian signals on a corridor that either interact
directly with schools -- this one happens to interact directly with a pathway that the City
of Meridian has established in this area. This is one of the main bike routes headed
through Meridian. I call it the 8th Street corridor. I don't know if the city has an official
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name for it, but this one connects basically at Pine Avenue and the middle school all the
way up and through the Paramount Subdivision and I have ridden this many times. I live
out in that part of Meridian and the City of Meridian has made some enhancements along
that corridor, ACHD has made enhancements along that corridor and it's really developing
and this project will continue to enhance that corridor with signage, striping and other
necessary improvements. So, that's a -- kind of a snapshot of community programs. All
of those are listed in your -- in your packet that I -- that I handed out and I'm glad to answer
any specific questions on those. I did want to highlight kind of in general -- and this is not
specific to the City of Meridian alone, but as stated the City of Meridian receives a lot of
traffic to and through the city and so I wanted to highlight the progress under the
commission's direction that ACHD has made on some of these key corridors over the last
several years. You can see that -- and this one's really exciting to highlight. Actually, this
year -- relatively soon this Cloverdale corridor -- some of which has a direct impact on the
city's eastern boundary -- we are going to be removing this corridor from the northern
section we call it from our priority corridor list, because it will be complete and it will match
our master street map designation. So, all of the intersections, all of the roadways along
that corridor will be complete and one thing we didn't expect -- and, unfortunately, it was
in response to a tragedy -- was we were able -- we were able to include the bridge over
the I-84, which was not expected as -- when we thought and considered that plan, but we
were able to do that because of the direction of the commission in the tragedy that -- that
destroyed that bridge. Another one we can take off very shortly -- and I live very close to
this project. It's near and dear to my heart and it's being striped right now and there is
just a little bit left, but the Linder corridor basically connecting the improvements we have
done on Ustick up to Chinden will be complete. And we get a lot of questions, well, why
did you do that before Ten Mile. There is a lot of different reasons behind it, but I'm glad
we are going to get that done before we do Ten Mile, because there is going to be a lot
of pressure on that corridor as we do -- as we do the Ten Mile Road. So, thanks for
understanding. And, then, you can see we have done a whole lot of intersections along
Fairview Avenue. That corridor has been an emphasis area for the ACHD commission
and we have completed some of those projects directly right in the middle of the City of
Meridian in association with the split corridor project and that's been a huge success. So,
looking forward as you look at this map, the next one to go off the map is going to be Ten
Mile from Overland all the way up to Chinden Boulevard, because these two segments of
Chinden within this integrated five year work plan are scheduled to be completed next
year in fiscal year '20. So, these are critical projects. There is development related with
this. There is the STARs agreement. There is all kinds of stuff going on with those
projects, but at the same time Chinden Boulevard -- and this isn't directly associated with
ACHD, but we have several partnership projects with them -- is also going to be improved
and I know the city is very aware of that. So, really, the transportation dynamic in
northwest Meridian is changing because of all these improvements and a lot of the -- as
you can see a lot of the emphasis is moving to the south, because that's the next area of
need that we have identified and so with that I'm glad to stand for any questions you might
have. I hope that answers the majority of the questions you had on the agenda related
to south Meridian, community programs, and, then, projects in general within the City of
Meridian.
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De Weerd: Council and Commission, any questions?
Milam: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mrs. Milam.
Milam: Justin, I noticed that there is going to be a lot of work on Linder, which has already
started, but, then, going south, Pine to Franklin and Ustick to Cherry, but what about
Cherry to Pine? Because it just seems like we are like -- why are you doing all
improvements, except for this half a mile void.
Lucas: It's a -- it's a really good question, Madam Mayor, Councilman Milam. That
specific segment between Cherry and Ustick, if you're familiar with it, has quite a few
challenges and -- including a lot of front-on housing. There is a park that has a specific
access associated with it and there is a very large canal on the north quarter of that -- of
that segment of roadway that really squeezes things down and it's going to create a lot of
complexity from a design and a cost perspective. Certainly it can be widened. Our
strategy is hold off as long as we can and improve around it, so we are not widening that
road until it absolutely has to be done and that strategy we have employed on several
other segments, not only in the City of Meridian, but across Ada county and certainly
some day as directed by the commission we can -- we can do that project, but we want
to make sure when we do it that it's absolutely necessary and needed because of the
incredible impact it will have on the -- on the neighborhood.
Milam: Madam Mayor? Sorry, you confused me a little bit, Justin, because you said --
you mentioned Cherry to Ustick and that's on -- that's in the plan for 2020 it looks like.
Oh, that's Meridian. I'm looking at Meridian.
Lucas: Yeah. That's -- that's Meridian Road.
Milam: Yeah. McMillan -- Ustick and McMillan. Yeah. Then up south. But from Pine to
-- it would be Pine to Ustick there is nothing. So, people using that as a transportation
corridor to get home they are just going to end up with a big bottleneck that --
Lucas: Yeah. And, Councilman Milam, you're not incorrect. There will be some segments
on Linder that are not improved. We are hoping that with all the improvements we have
done to Ten Mile that that can really provide the connection. Ten Mile has the interstate
connectivity. Linder, as you're very aware, does not have an overpass. If the overpass
move forwards, if other things happen, I think the pressure on Linder in that southern
section will even be greater. So, it's certainly something we are monitoring and taking
into account.
De Weerd: Justin, can you tell me -- I was trying to do the math, but I thought it was
easier to just ask. How much does a typical intersection improvement cost on a major
arterial?
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Lucas: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council and Commission, it's a -- it's a tough
question. It really does depend on the specific intersection and whether -- and whether it
is -- how large that intersection is, whether it's a roundabout, whether it's a standard
signal, but if you look in the documentation that I provided you can see a construction
cost ranging from, you know, four to seven million dollars for major intersections and so
that's a pretty good range, so if you -- if you held me up against the wall and said how
much is it going to cost I would probably say, you know, five to six -- and five million
dollars. That's what we -- our chart -- that's what we are -- that's what we see those costs
about right now. It used to be probably cheaper. You may have remembered back maybe
ten, 15 years ago when we were paying two or three million dollars. That is not the case
in the current environment. We have been pretty much paying those costs for
construction for the last several years.
De Weerd: I think, you know, the -- the growth patterns and what is available on the five
year plan reminds me of -- as we were starting to see north Meridian start to explode and
we formed these public-private partnerships with the development community to widen
intersections ahead of schedule, ahead of the five year plan and some of them even
weren't yet on the five year plan. Is that something that you would be interested in,
dialogue with the city and the development community to do ahead of schedule to be paid
back through impact fees? There are a number of intersections that need to see that
improvement that are still stop signed intersections and the idea at the time of the north
Meridian plan was let's move traffic as efficiently as we can. Is that a dialogue that you
would be at the table with to -- to consider?
Lucas: Madam Mayor, Members of the Commission and the Council, certainly I will let
our commissioners weigh in on this specific topic. You're -- you're right, we have done
that in the past and I know -- I don't know if it was at our last joint meeting -- and Gary's
here, but I think we -- we discussed a similar strategy or conceptualized a similar strategy
for the south Meridian area in certain key locations and I know at that last meeting the
commission did certainly indicate interest in that. Fitting all those -- fitting all those pieces
together and making that work I think is -- is totally possible and certainly at the staff level
we have had successful developer cooperative projects for many years and so certainly
if -- if the commissioners want to weigh in on that I'm glad to -- glad to listen, but there is
a lot of things that have to go into that, but certainly staff is open to it.
De Weerd: And a lot of those public-private partnerships have really been in Meridian.
Initially we had Winston Moore and Rodger Anderson do it on Overland and Eagle Road.
Then we had Winston Moore and -- and David Turnbull do it on Eagle and Ustick and --
and, then, we had the north Meridian activity that had a lot of different players as part of
that. It has been successful on our side of it. I don't know how it looks on ACHD's side
of it, but it does get those improvements in at today's prices, which has historically proven
that today's prices are better than tomorrow's, so it's -- Madam Chair?
Arnold: I was just going to say we love those projects. The ones you mentioned it worked
very well for ACHD to get some much needed improvements much sooner than they
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otherwise would have happened. So, we are always open to discussing possibilities
there.
De Weerd: I love to hear that. We did dust off the north Meridian area plan that we -- we
found as I am starting to not purge, but go through all my files and I handed it over to
Robert to see if we could use that as some kind of a foundation to start those discussions
again.
Arnold: We will look forward to it.
De Weerd: Awesome. And I think we even have our transportation commission that's
interested in maybe leading some of that, so -- thank you, Justin.
Lucas: Thank you.
De Weerd: And commission.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
Borton: Can I add a question to Justin while he's here? Well, a comment and a question,
but I would like to say it with the commission here as well, but -- but we benefit greatly
having you at our Council meetings and the commission needs to know the time that
Justin spends with us, it's not only so valuable to us as the Council in making our
decisions, but to the public as well. We have seen you address confusion amongst the
public at times about some of the analysis that you do and the commission does in making
their decisions. You do an exceptional job with that, too. So, it helps us and the public.
So, we appreciate you here every week. My question on the -- on the five year work plan,
the broad question is to describe the funding assumptions that go into making it and the
specific question is using your current tentative budget is there anything within this --
Meridian's portion of the five year work plan that is included with the tentative budget as
presented for your October -- your August 21st hearing that if funding isn't provided as
the draft budget proposes would come off the plan?
Lucas: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council and Commission, I don't really know if I
can answer that specifically. We do certainly use revenue assumptions to build our
documents, both our budget and our integrated five year work plan. Ultimately ACHD
staff looks to the commission to provide us with the ultimate determination on the revenue
available for -- for those -- for those projects. Now, if there is less revenue available than
we initially anticipate, at this point that would be direction we would receive from the
commission and I can't say, because we haven't been told what projects would need to
be modified or delayed associated with any type of new revenue.
Borton: So -- Madam Mayor. To be more specific -- and every city wrestles with the same
question. The big example in some of the available revenue is -- is some of the -- some
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or all of the available three percent that can be utilized to create some funding, so -- and
you make assumptions in building a five year work plan. So, does the plan that we have
in front of us assume that that funding source is utilized each of the five years or does it
assume that it's not used it all?
Lucas: The draft integrated five year work plan presented to you today assumes an
increase -- of the increase that you described.
Borton: Okay. Thanks.
Baker: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Commissioner Baker.
Baker: I guess I will just expand on that a little bit. It assumes with the miracle of
compound interest that it has taken this year and, then, it -- you know, it accrues every
year. It doesn't assume it's going to be taken next year as well, but for this year it's the
three percent, plus the growth, and, then, through the miracle of compound interest over
the next few years that adds up to about 20 million dollars. So, I mean that -- that's the
revenue that's there for the five year work plan.
Borton: Okay.
Baker: Along with the other -- what we currently have. That's additional.
De Weerd: So, it only assumes that you take it this year and not the subsequent years.
Baker: You can only -- well, for this -- yes.
De Weerd: For the projection.
Baker: But if you don't take it this year -- because you're not taking it this year that would
mean 20 million dollars over the next I guess five years does not get placed into the five
year work plan. You don't make that up by not taking it this year and, then, taking it next
year, so --
Borton: Madam Mayor?
Baker: If that makes sense.
De Weerd: Yes.
Borton: That's really helpful and that --
De Weerd: Mr. Borton.
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Borton: -- kind of hits to the crux of the question is that compounding effect works both
ways. So, again, we all wrestle with the same issues. So, knowing if a plan such as this
includes not only three percent perhaps for 2021, but assumes the subsequent four years
also would -- would include utilizing that three percent it greatly expands the compounding
effect, which would generate the numbers big enough to fund all of these.
Baker: Yeah.
Borton: If that's not the case, then, the available funding would be much smaller if it's
only a single year of -- of compounding over the five.
Lucas: And just for clarity -- and there is some differences between our budget. That's
not revenue assumptions in our integrated five year work plan revenue assumptions, in
the integrated five year work plan, you know, the further you get out with revenue
assumptions the less specific they become, but we do include some level of increase to
our property tax revenue throughout the plan. It is throughout the plan. So, just to be
clear on that.
Borton: Yeah. And we -- we can -- we can talk about --
Lucas: But -- yeah. It's --
Borton: It seems like it's a yes or no question, but it might not be fair the way I have
phrased it.
Lucas: Yeah.
Borton: The three percent is included as part of the math to create this draft plan to the
five years or it's not.
Lucas: I think that the simplest answer is -- is yes, but there is nuance to that response.
I mean it's -- because of the way revenue assumptions are created, but we do assume,
based on the direction we received from the commission early on when we were
developing the plan, that we would increase -- we should assume revenue increases
associated with our -- our major sources of revenue, which include property taxes
throughout the life of the plan every year. Every year.
Borton: Okay.
Lucas: It's -- the reason I'm -- I'm parsing words is -- is revenue increase assumption
doesn't necessarily mean -- it doesn't necessarily tell staff where those revenue increases
are coming from and I think that's a critical distinction. We may use -- ultimately it's a
number you're trying to get and we may use an assumption associated with the three
percent or the growth and I know there is broad discussion amongst the commission
about that specific revenue source, but ultimately what staff needs to know is should we
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assume greater revenue on an annual basis. How that happens there is different ways
to look at it.
Borton: Thanks, Justin.
De Weerd: Any further comments or questions? Oh, Mr. Goldthorpe.
Goldthorpe: And, Councilman Borton, this may -- may help you professionally to
understand. Anything we say may be held against us in the court of public opinion.
Borton: I'm writing that down in pen.
De Weerd: Okay. Item C-3 is a presentation on community programs. An update.
Did that included -- that was included in that. Okay. So, the community programs is listed
in this packet on page seven.
Lucas: Yes, Madam Mayor. Sorry. I should have clarified that. You have the community
programs listed in the packet on page seven. Also page eight and page nine would
constitute all of the different community programs projects. And I think the other item on
the agenda was general discussion of projects within Meridian and that was meant to be
covered in my previous presentation also.
D. Ada County Highway District: Chip Seal Updates
De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Okay. Well, I guess that covered Items D -- or B and C
and so we will move to chip seal update. We are so excited to hear about it. You know I
know it's everyone's favorite topic, but I will tell you what, when that project is done it's
beautiful, so --
Baker: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: -- I may feel differently than most, but I think it's beautiful.
Baker: I came in on Locust Grove -- Fairview, Locust Grove to Pine. It's like glass now.
It's great.
De Weerd: Well, I will tell you that, you know, we have felt like a city under siege by the
chip seal program, but as those get done I know our citizens -- it's two or three weeks of
-- well, when is this going to be done to now it's -- it's an awesome thing.
Arnold: Except I did get a chip in my windshield.
De Weerd: Well, our --
Arnold: Even though I was driving the speed limit and leaving space --
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De Weerd: Our small businesses appreciate it. They are called glass companies and
anyone in the automobile service feels that this is a -- a great boost to their economy.
Nicholson: Thank you for those kind words, Madam Mayor. Tim Nicholson, deputy
director of maintenance for the Ada County Highway District, and the great news that I
would love to share with you today is that we are done chip sealing for 2019. We got
completed on Sunday -- just this past Sunday, so we were able to do 421 lane miles this
past year in 68 working days, which was about 12 working days ahead of schedule. That's
using both of our crews. That being said, we are not a hundred percent done, we still
have some fog sealing to do and the maps that I just handed out to you -- that first page
with the blue and the red on it shows our level of completion. If it's blue that means it's
completely done being chipped and fogged. If it's red that means it's been chipped, but
not fogged yet. Those boxes that are highlighted in pink are where we are planning on
being this week and if I could direct you to our interactive map, that's where this picture
was taken from, it's updated daily. It's on -- and it's linked on our website. So, if you or
any of your constituents want to see our progress, you're more than welcome to go take
a look at that on a daily basis and see where we are at. We are expecting about two
more weeks before we are done with the fog seal at the current rate and as long as the
temperatures and weather holds out and the smoke stays out of the valley we will be in
great shape to have that completed. Just for some metrics. Like I said, we are about 73
percent done with our -- with our fog seal right now and, again, we placed just under 5,200
tons of oil in those 68 working days. So, the crews are really -- really moving. They had
a great year. The weather cooperated with us, so we were -- we are pretty fortunate to
be where we are at this early in the season. We started a little earlier. I think it worked
out really well. Of course the big push is always to get done in the school areas before
school starts and we are on target to meet that goal in the next two weeks and that
includes getting paint and pavement markings completed in time for school as well, so --
with regards to 2020, unless you all have anymore questions on 2019, that second map
that I provided for you shows where we are planning to be in 2020, which is the south
Meridian area. The way our zones are split up currently, Meridian kind of gets hit three
years in a row. We have north Meridian, central Meridian and, then south Meridian. You
see for 2020 it's bounded on the north by the interstate, on the west by McDermott, on
the south by Lake Hazel and on the east by Five Mile and with next year's chip seal
program we are planning to do 458 lane miles. A little bit more than this year. We still
expect to take roughly 80 working days. So, 40 each crew, based on our regular
production capabilities with those two crews. Planning on starting again in late May after
the Labor -- excuse me -- Memorial Day and, hopefully, be done about the same time,
early August again next year. So, with that if you have any questions I would be happy
to answer them for you.
De Weerd: Thank you so much. Council and Commission, any comments or questions?
May: Madam Mayor, I just want to say thank you very much for having us today and I'm
really encouraged and extremely pleased that just since I took office in January this is our
second joint meeting and I do agree -- and I'm sorry Cameron's not here. He did an
awesome job presenting your plan, that one of the priorities is to have close collaboration
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and coordination prior to public hearings and I think that's the only way we are going to
move the needle and get things done is working closely together. So, thank you and I
look forward to our next meeting.
De Weerd: Thank you. Any other comments or questions from Council? Again, if you
will pass along our appreciation to getting in ahead of schedule and certainly before
school starts, that's -- that's a really big deal.
Nicholson: It's always a big goal for us to hit that mark.
De Weerd: Yeah. Thank you.
Nicholson: Thank you, Madam Mayor.
De Weerd: Okay. And Item 3-E, update on other projects within the City of Meridian. I
think you already covered that. Wow, we should have just said A, B and E, but you were
not clear. Council, any questions for ACHD staff? Any comment?
Bernt: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bernt.
Bernt: Not a question, but a comment. I just want to say thank you to our ACHD friends
and especially Justin for the hard work and dedication you -- and time spent with us.
Thank you so much for the friendship and thank you so much for the -- for the partnership
that we enjoy. So, looking forward to more dialogue and much -- you know, much more
agreement. Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Anything further? If not I would --
Cavener: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Cavener.
Cavener: Sorry. Thank you, Madam Mayor. And I don't know if it was covered and I just
couldn't hear it. Has there been any progress on -- on the Linder Road overpass and
what collaboration is going on between the city and the highway district around that
project?
De Weerd: I guess just the update. It was in purple, so it was at a future and unfunded
project. An update from Director Wong is there is no interest from Idaho Transportation
Department. They have no plans for any new overpasses period. That has been -- it was
related to Director Wong, but it was also reiterated at COMPASS and -- as a very strong
message from Idaho Transportation Department. So, I guess, Mr. Cavener, ACHD has
indicated an interest in -- in their portion, but without the -- the bridge, the overpasses, it
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seems like a moot point anyway at this point. Okay. Anything else from Council or the
Commission? If not, Council, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
Borton: I move we adjourn.
Milam: Second.
De Weerd: All those in favor say aye. All ayes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALLAYES.
De Weerd: Commission, would you like to have a motion to adjourn?
Arnold: No.
De Weerd: Okay.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 4:06 P.M.
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1. Roll-C all Attendance
A. M er idian C ity C ouncil
X A nne L ittle Roberts
X Ty P almer (3:10pm)
X Genesis Milam
X J oe B orton
X T reg B ernt
X L uke C avener
X Mayor Tammy de W eerd
B. Ada C ounty Highway Distr ict C ommissioner s
X J im Hansen X Mary May
X S ara B aker X K ent G oldthorpe
X R ebecca W. A rnold, P resident
2. Adoption of Agenda
3. Discussion Topics
A. City of M er idian: C ompr ehensive Plan Update
B. Ada C ounty Highway Distr ict: Update on S outh M eridian
C. Ada C ounty Highway Distr ict: C ommunity P rogr ams Update
D. Ada C ounty Highway Distr ict: C hip S eal Updates
E. Ada C ounty Highway Distr ict: Update on O ther P rojects within the
City of M er idian
Meeting Adjourned at 4:06 pm
City of Meridian
Comprehensive Plan
August 13, 2019
Caleb Hood
Planning Division Manager
•Adopted in 2002
–Population tripled since
–Reformatted in 2011
•Although updated annually,
policies regarding growth and
development are largely the
same for the past 15 years
Current Plan
What is it?
What’s In It?
•Chapter 1 –Introduction
•Chapter 2 –Community Character
•Chapter 3 –Strategic Growth
•Chapter 4 –Economic Excellence
•Chapter 5 –Stewardship
•Chapter 6 –Public Services
•Chapter 7 –Implementation
•Appendices
–Future Land Use Map
17 Required Elements
▪Property Rights
▪Population
▪School Facilities
▪Economic
Development
▪Land Use
▪Natural resources
▪Hazardous Areas
▪Public Services
▪Transportation
▪Recreation
▪Special Areas or
Sites
▪Housing
▪Community Design
▪Agriculture
▪Implementation
▪National Interest
Electric Corridors
▪Public Airport
Facilities
New Plan
•RFP for consultant issued; selected Logan-Simpson in Spring of
2018
•Steering Committee Oversight; monthly meetings
•Not throwing current plan out; needs significant updates
•Main focus areas:
–Strategic Growth Management and Public Services
•Encouraging development in areas where public services already exist
(infill); where should future services be expanded in the near, mid and
longer term; and growth impact analysis of proposed development.
–Transportation and Economic Development
•Alignment of more intense land uses on transportation corridors.
•Develop Master Mobility Map –current, future and long-range; multiple
modes and existing infrastructure shown and identified for the future
•Rail, transit, freight, bike, ped, commuter
•ACHD and other partner agency participation
•Adoption late 2019
Premier Evolving Livable Connected Vibrant
What We Heard
5 Value Themes, with supporting vision statements
#MyMeridianValues
#MyMeridianVision
#MyMeridianChoices
#MyMeridianPlan
A Connected Community
•Accommodate appropriate modes of
transportation by planning, designing, and
building facilities for pedestrians, bicycles,
public transit, motor vehicles, and freight.
•Improve the efficiency of transportation
through land use planning, street design, and
new technology.
•Embrace Meridian's location by ensuring
alignment of transportation network
enhancements with new local and regional
growth.
•Create transportation corridors that promote
the efficient movement of people and goods.
Draft Plan
•Transportation Focus Group
–City’s Transportation Commission & Agency Partners
•3 meetings in the winter-spring of 2019
–Land Use and Transportation Analysis (Kittleson & Leland)
–Master Mobility Map
•Incorporates all transportation plans and existing infrastructure
•Multi-modal with no horizon year
–Opportunities, Choices and Corridors
•Transit and Land Use
•ValleyConnect 2.0
Draft Policies –Chapter 6 –Transportation and Streets
•Multi-modal, complete streets for residents and businesses
•Transit –Planning for fixed-route; Local Option
•Pathways and sidewalks are a priority
•(6.1.2.F) Improve coordination with ACHD, ITD, VRT, COMPASS, and developers in addressing
transportation issues and needs before public hearings, including having school and transportation
agency comments in with adequate time to allow for review by the City before a decision is made on a
land-use application.
•(6.1.2.H) Work with transportation partners to establish and implement a system of performance
measures to gauge whether transportation goals and objectives are being realized.
•(6.1.1.A) Work with the Union Pacific Railroad, Watco Companies and other interested stakeholders to
preserve and protect the existing Boise Cut-off rail corridor as a multi-use corridor, including freight.
•(6.1.2.N) Coordinate with ACHD to more carefully examine the appropriateness of roundabouts with
intersection improvements in relation to pedestrians and other users.
•(6.1.3.A) Work with ITD and ACHD to establish truck routes and design routes appropriately for their
contexts.
•(6.1.4.A) Support efforts to evaluate and plan for future transportation services such as public transit,
on-demand services, autonomous and shared vehicles.
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