2017 08-03Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting August 3, 2017
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of August 3, 2017, was
called to order at 6:00 p.m. by Chairman Rhonda McCarvel.
Members Present: Rhonda McCarvel, Commissioner Gregory Wilson, Commissioner
Ryan Fitzgerald, Commissioner Bill Cassanelli and Commissioner Jessica Perreault.
Members Absent: Commissioner Steven Yearsley and Commissioner Treg Bernt.
Others Present: Machelle Hill, Ted Baird, Bill Parsons, and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance
______ Treg Bernt _______ Steven Yearsley
__X___ Gregory Wilson ___X___ Ryan Fitzgerald
__X___ Jessica Perreault ___X___ Bill Cassanelli
___X___ Rhonda McCarvel - Chairman
McCarvel: All right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. At this time I would like to
call to order the regularly scheduled meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning
Commission on August 3rd, 2017. Let's begin with roll call.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda
McCarvel: The first item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda . We have a
couple of changes to the agenda this evening. Items H-2017-0058, Pine 43, and Item
H-2017-0088, Linder Village, will be opened only for the purpose of continuing these
items to different scheduled meetings. It will be opened solely for that purpose. So, if
there is anybody here to testify tonight for those particular applications we will not be
taking testimony today. So, could I get a motion to adopt the agenda as amended .
Fitzgerald: Madam Chair, so moved.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda as amended. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
Item 3: Consent Agenda
A. Approve Minutes of July 20, 2017 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting
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B. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval for
Knighthill Lot 3 Drive-Through (H-2017-0087) by James Wylie
Located Southwest Corner of Chinden Boulevard and N.
Linder Road
C. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Approval for
Southridge Apartments (H-2017-0077) by Southridge Farm,
LLC Located South Side of W. Overland Road, Midway
Betw een S. Linder Road and S. Ten Mile Road
McCarvel: The next item on the agenda is the Consent Agenda and we have three
items on the Consent Agenda. We have approval of minutes for July 20 and the
Findings in Fact and Conclusion of Law for H-2017-0087 and 2017-0077. Can I get a
motion to --
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes.
Wilson: I move we approve the Consent Agenda.
Cassanelli: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to approve the Consent Agenda. All those
in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
McCarvel: Okay. At this time we would like to briefly explain the public hearing process
for this evening. We will open each item individually and , then, start with the staff
report. Staff will report their findings regarding how the item adheres to our
Comprehensive Plan and Uniform Development Code with the staff's recommendations.
After the staff has made their presentation, the applicant will come forward to present
their case for approval and their application and respond to any staff comments. The
applicant will have 15 minutes to do so. After the applicant has finished we will open
the public testimony. There is a sign-up sheet in the back as you enter for anyone
wishing to testify. Any person testifying will come forward and be allowed three
minutes. If they are speaking for a larger group, like an HOA, and there is a show of
hands to represent the group, they will be given up to ten minutes. After all testimony
has been heard, the applicant will be given another ten minutes to have the opportunity
to come back and respond if they desire. After that we will close the public hearing
meeting and the Commissioners have the opportunity to discuss and, hopefully, be able
to make a recommendation to City Council.
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Item 4: Action Items
A. Public Hearing Continued from July 20, 2017 for Pine 43 (H-
2017-0058) by DMB Development Located South of E. Fairview
Avenue, East of N. Locust Grove Road, North of Commercial
Street and West of Hickory Avenue
1. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 0.07 of an Acre of
Land with an R-15 (Medium High-Density Residential)
(0.01 of an Acre) and C-G (General Retail and Service
Commercial) (0.06 of an Acre) Zoning District
2. Request: Rezone of 46.11 Acres of Land from the C-G
(General Retail and Service Commercial) to the R-15
(Medium High-Density Residential) Zoning District
3. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of 516
Lots on 119.77 Acres of Land Consisting of 108 Mixed
Use (28 Commercial and 80 Multi-Family Residential)
Building Lots and 28 Mixed Use Common Lots on 73.68
Acres of Land in the C-G District and 356 Residential
Building Lots Consisting of 196 Single-Family Detached,
128 Single-Family Attached and 32 Attached Live/Work
and 24 Residential Common Lots on 46.12 Acres of
Land in the R-15 Zoning District
McCarvel: So, at this time I would like to open and -- open H-2017-0058, Pine 43, only
to be continued to August 17th, 2017.
Fitzgerald: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Mr. Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald: I move we continue H-2017-0058 until the date of August 17th, 2017.
Wilson: Second.
Cassanelli: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to Move H-2017-0058 to August 17th. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
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B. Public Hearing for Linder Village (H-2017-0088) by Lynx/DMG
Real Estate Partners, LLC Located 1225 W. Chinden Boulevard
1. Request: Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan to
Change the Future Land Use Map Designation on 62.04
Acres of Land from Mixed Use-Community (MU-C) to
Mixed Use-Regional (MU-R)
2. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 81.02 Acres of Land
from RUT Zoning District in Ada County to the C-G
Zoning District (62.04 Acres) and the R-8 Zoning District
(18.98 Acres) in the City
3. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of
Fourteen (14) Commercial Building Lots
McCarvel: And second one on the list we will now open H-2017-0088 to be -- just be
opened and continued and renoticed to September 7th, 2017.
Fitzgerald: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald: I move we continue Linder Village, H-2017-0088 and renotice that meeting
for September 7th, 2017.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to continue and renotice H-2017-0088 to
September 7th, 2017. All those in favor say. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
C. Public Hearing Continued from July 20, 2017 for Trust Storage
(H-2017-0082) by John Day Located Northeast Corner of S.
Locust Grove Road and E. Puffin Street
1. Request: Combined Preliminary / Final Plat Consisting
of Two (2) Building Lots on 9.28 Acres of Land in the C-
C (Community Business) Zoning District
2. Request: Conditional Use Permit for a Self-Service
Storage Facility in the C-C Zoning District
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McCarvel: Yeah. We will wait just a minute. Okay. We'd now like to continue the
public hearing from July 20th for Trust Storage, H-2017-0082, and we will begin with the
staff report, if there is anything more to say.
Parsons: Good evening, Madam Chair, Members of the Commission. As you
mentioned, Madam Chair, this item was continued from the July 20th hearing. The
main reason for the continuance was so that the Commission could see some revised
elevations for this particular project. This afternoon -- or early this morning staff did
receive a --
McCarvel: Because the applicant has asked to have it renoticed. They have some
things that they are still working on.
Baird: Madam Chair, I would be happy to take it out in the hall and --
McCarvel: Certainly. Sir, we are in the middle of a public hearing. I can't take your
questions, but our attorney would be happy to explain everything to you.
Fitzgerald: And I received one of those, too. So, I -- it was not sent by the applicant,
sir. Since we are -- just to give a -- there was a flyer sent out to -- I think it was 16 or 17
neighborhoods around the Linder, Chinden neighborhood. It was anonymous. It didn’t
say anybody's name on it, it just says -- it gives some information and it says everybody
needs to be here tonight to oppose it. So, that's what he was holding for the information
and for the record.
McCarvel: Okay. Sorry.
Parsons: Let's try this again.
McCarvel: Please continue.
Parsons: We will rewind. How does that sound? Rewind, shall we? Anyways, as I
was saying, this is the Trust Storage property. It was continued from the July 20th
hearing mainly for the reason of reviewing the revised elevations. Commission has
some concern with the amount of metal accent -- or the amount of metal that was being
proposed on the elevations that were in front of you on that hearing date and the main
reason why there was concern, because staff had informed you that it did not comply
with the architectural standards manual and so we need to get those elevations in
alignment with that document. If you recall, a couple other items came up as far as
landscaping and some of the fencing and screening as well for that proposed
development. So, late this morning staff did receive revised plans from the applicant
that I will share with you this evening. We have reviewed the revised plans and staff is
very supportive of the proposed changes. I will go through those very quickly with you
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and, then, I also have some recommendations -- or some changes to the staff report
that I would like to share with you as well. So, these were the elevations that were
proposed and reviewed at the July 20th hearing. Again, you can see here the primary
building material was all metal with blue and green metal accents as well . Late this
morning I did receive these revised elevations, which now incorporate more building
materials as contemplated by the architectural standards manual. So, a lot of those
blue panels -- blue and tan metal panels have been modified and changed to stucco
and block and so that's -- again, these are in alignment with more -- coincide more with
the standards in the architectural standards manual, again, staff is supportive of the
revised changes. I did speak with the applicant and he said he would clear -- or at least
inform you on how they plan on screening or enclosing the fencing materials for the
open storage area and those areas that were opened up on -- between -- if you can see
my -- my cursor here there were some openings along Puffin here that we needed to
screen from the street and, then, also in between the buildings here and on the east
these -- what is it, the southeast corner as well. So, he will provide you some additional
testimony on that this evening as to what they are going to do there. I believe it's going
to be block in my discussions with them earlier in the week. One other item that I
wanted to point out to the Commission is when we discussed this project back on the
20th there were some requirements for additional landscaping, some more plantings to
be included. The applicant did update the site and landscape plan to reflect those
changes as well. So, I won't go word for word on which conditions need to be modified
this evening, all I can -- what I would like to do this evening, if you are supportive of the
proposed changes tonight, then, basically I would ask that you incorporate these -- the
revised site landscape plan and the building elevations into the staff report and prior to
the City Council hearing I will go ahead and modify those conditions that have already
-- that have been addressed in the revised site plan . So, again, landscape buffer was
added along the east boundary of this side, a 25 foot wide landscape buffer was added
to Locust Grove and, then, additional plantings were located along the northeast side of
the north side -- north-south access roadway and, then, additional plantings were
incorporated adjacent to the Steve Eddy site on the north boundary. If you recall at the
last hearing, too, the application was proposing to take advantage of some of our water
-- or water conserving concepts in our landscape ordinance and so this plan takes those
into account. So, the only new condition that I'm asking from you this evening is that
you add a condition that requires that the revised landscape plan comply the water
conserving design standards set forth in UDC 3B-5. And, then, as I mentioned to you,
because a lot of these -- a lot of the other conditions regarding increased landscape
being in the buffer requirements are conditions in the staff report now that we have
addressed -- have these addressed in that -- in this revised plan. I think we could strike
those out of the staff report before we get to City Council. So, with that I will conclude
my presentation and stand for any questions you may have regarding the revised plans.
Fitzgerald: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Questions? Commissioner Fitzgerald.
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Fitzgerald: Bill, is -- thank you, ma'am. Is -- are all of the building elevations and site
plans and whatever that being updated going into a DA?
Parsons: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, this particular property has a
development agreement on it, but they did not -- they were not required to modify it,
because what they are doing is consistent with that DA. So, no, the CU is what's going
to govern --
Fitzgerald: Okay.
Parsons: -- the design on this project.
Fitzgerald: Got it. Okay. Thank you for the clarification.
McCarvel: Anyone else questions for staff? Would the applicant likely to come forward.
Day: Hi. Good evening. John Day. 3501 North 32nd Street, Boise, Idaho. Yeah, I can
go through some of these changes we made line by line if we wanted to, but -- so, I will
address some of the site -- site specific conditions that we changed or made revisions
to. Our Item 1.1.4, item number one underneath that, that's to construct a 25 foot
landscape buffer adjacent to Locust Grove. Blocks 1 and 2, as Bill noted earlier, we
have previously not indicated up there a lot number one and so that is now being
indicated. It will be constructed as part of this project. Item number three under that
same note 1.1.4, is the parking lot landscaping requirements. Again, that's been added
to the east -- or, excuse me, the west side of the north side access drive right there and
all along the west -- east side of that and the north side adjacent to Fast Eddy's. Let's
see. Then, additionally, we have item 1.1.5 on site specific conditions. We have
indicated a bike rack that will be located adjacent to the office . That was on that
architectural site plan, Bill. The building elevations, as Bill described earlier, our first
presentation was more or less a continuous metal building. It did have some
undulations of the parapet and some of the panels popped out , but, again, back to the
development code, metal is to be used as an accent material and so I think our
revisions, providing a more permanent and some earth tone colors to the CMU and
stucco panels I think addresses those issues. We are now using just a metal -- the
green, which is part of the brand for Trust Storage to break up those long sections of
wall and, then, some of the blue and the green on the base of the office building, as
accent only. Let's see. For some of the revisions to the site plan, under Section 1.1.7
of site specific conditions, we did increase the drive aisles between Building A and B
and B and C to 25 feet. It's actually 25 feet four. W e reduced the width of some of
those buildings to achieve that. And, then, there was also a narrow section between
Building N and Building E on the far east side. We removed one unit to achieve the 25
foot separation there as well. And, then, specifically addressing the site fencing. If you
were to look at the south elevation of the color -- right there on the renderings, right in
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the middle there, that's as you turn the corner coming down Locust Grove onto Puffin.
So, you're looking at the south elevation of the project. The buildings are behind that
large panel of CMU right there and, then, you get to more open space and so what
you're seeing there is the segmented wall that we would -- we would plan to -- or
propose to construct at all areas between buildings and so that's -- again, that's a solid
metal green fencing and, then, larger CMU panels with a CMU cap on top of that. So,
again, that would -- that would span everywhere between the buildings and it would be
at the face of the parking area -- I believe that's parking area H. So, it will be completely
hidden behind there. Those are some of the issues that were up brought up in the last
hearing. So, I believe we have addressed all these and, you know, again, we are -- we
are in agreement with staff's recommendations. If you have anymore questions I'd be
happy to answer them.
McCarvel: Any questions?
Cassanelli: I have a question. There was an issue at the last meeting. Part of the --
part of the fencing you were requesting wrought iron fencing.
Day: Yes.
Cassanelli: Where --
Day: We have gone away from that notion and we are proposing, again, what you see
on elevations -- the south elevation. That's -- that will be the fencing material. CMU
block and metal wall. So, we are not proposing the wrought iron anymore.
Cassanelli: So, that -- we don't have to deal with that --
Day: No.
Cassanelli: Okay.
Day: No. We were only proposing that in some very small sections in the back of the
project, but just to stay in, you know, conformance with everywhere we will just continue
-- continue that same wall everywhere, so --
Cassanelli: Okay. Thank you.
Day: Uh-huh.
McCarvel: And, then, I have got one question. I just want to make sure -- I think the
other issue is we want to make sure it was eight foot and not six.
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Day: Yes. The -- the lower portion -- the metal will be eight foot and, then, the upper
portions will be eight foot eight or something like that -- with the cap eight six.
McCarvel: Okay.
Fitzgerald: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald: Mr. Day, Bill had mentioned that you have an idea for screening to the open
cuts that you have. Is that -- did you have an idea how to explain that to --
Day: Pardon me?
Fitzgerald: The open -- openings that you have that you can see into the buildings , do
you have an idea for screening?
Day: Again, that's the fence I was just describing.
Fitzgerald: Okay.
Day: So --
Fitzgerald: That's what it is. I just wanted to make sure I understood it. Okay. Thank
you.
McCarvel: Okay. Any other questions for the applicant? Okay. And I believe with the
continuation -- do we do public testimony? I apologize. We don't redo public testimony
again, do we?
Parsons: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, you can. If there is anyone that
wished to testify on these specific items that you continued this project for they can
certainly come up here and testify to that.
McCarvel: All right. Thank you, sir.
Day: Thank you.
McCarvel: I have the sign-up sheet and I have several people that have signed in for
this issue, but nobody has checked that they wish to testify. Is there anyone here that
does wish to testify? Okay. Okay. And I don't think we need to have the applicant
come back forward. At this time can I get a motion to close the public hearing for Item
H-2017-0082.
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Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I move we close the public -- or close the testimony on H-2017-0082.
Perreault: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on H-2017-
0082. All those in favor say aye. Those opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
McCarvel: I will -- I will start. I think they have done just about everything we have
asked. It certainly is toned down -- the metal aspect of the structure and I think it looks
much better and fits into the surrounding area better.
Cassanelli: I would agree.
Wilson: I think our issue was conformity and, you know, making sure we didn't kind of
devalue those -- well, maybe that's not the right word, but just kind of -- you know, it
didn't stand out. It, you know, mixed in with the surrounding -- surrounding buildings
and I think that the revised plan does that.
McCarvel: Okay.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to
recommend approval of file number H-2017-0082 as presented on the hearing date of
August 3rd, 2017.
Fitzgerald: Are we recommending or are we approving?
McCarvel: Recommending approval. Yeah.
Fitzgerald: On a CUP?
McCarvel: Yeah.
Wilson: I'm correct.
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McCarvel: And I think we want to include, as Bill mentioned, the revised staff plans
comply with the water conservation items in 3D-5 -- or 3B.
Parson: 3B.
McCarvel: 313-5. Okay. If I can --
Perreault: Second.
Cassanelli: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to approve H-2017-0082 with
modifications. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
McCarvel: One more motion.
Perreault: Madam Chair, I move that we close the hearing for August 3rd, 2017.
Cassanelli: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close the meeting for August 3rd, 2017,
dash -- August 3rd, 2017. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FIVE AYES. TWO ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:19 P.M.
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