2017 07-20E t4, MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING
COMMISSION MEETING
AGENDA
City Council Chambers
33 E. Broadway Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
Thursday July 20, 2017 at 6:00 p.m.
1. Roll -call Attendance
_X_ Treg Bernt O Steven Yearsley
_X Gregory Wilson O_ Ryan Fitzgerald
X Jessica Perreault _X_ Bill Cassanelli
X_ Rhonda McCarvel — Chairperson
2. Adoption of the Agenda Approved as Amended
3. Consent Agenda Approved
A. Approve Minutes of July 6, 2017 Planning and Zoning Commission
Meeting
4. Action Items
A. Public Hearing for Pine 43 (H-2017-0058) by DMB Development
Located South of E. Fairview Avenue, East of N. Locust Grove Road,
North of Commercial Street and West of Hickory Avenue Public
Hearing Continued to August 3, 2017
1. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 0.07 of an Acre of Land
with an R-15 (Medium High -Density Residential) (0.01 of an
Acre) and C -G (General Retail and Service Commercial) (0.06
of an Acre) Zoning District
2. Request: Rezone of 46.11 Acres of Land from the C -G
(General Retail and Service Commercial) to the R-15 (Medium
High -Density Residential) Zoning District
3. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of 516 Lots on
119.77 Acres of Land Consisting of 108 Mixed Use (28
Commercial and 80 Multi -Family Residential) Building Lots
and 28 Mixed Use Common Lots on 73.68 Acres of Land in
the C -G District and 356 Residential Building Lots Consisting
of 196 Single -Family Detached, 128 Single -Family Attached
and 32 Attached Live/Work and 24 Residential Common Lots
on 46.12 Acres of Land in the R-15 Zoning District
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B. Public Hearing Continued from June 22, 2017 for 2 1/2 Street
Townhomes (H-2017-0066) by Broadbent Properties Located South
of E. Franklin on the West Side of 2 1/2 Street Recommend Approval
to City Council — Schedule for City Council August 22, 2017
1. Request: Rezone of 3.07 Acres of Land from the C -C and R-15
Zoning District to the O -T Zoning District
2. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of Fifty -One
(51) Residential Lots and Seven (7) Common Lots on 2.571
Acres of Land in the Proposed O -T Zoning District
C. Public Hearing Continued from July 6, 2017 for Southridge
Apartments (H-2017-0077) by Southridge Farm, LLC Located South
Side of W. Overland Road, Midway Between S. Linder Road and S.
Ten Mile Road Approved with Modifications — Prepare Findings for
August 3, 2017
1. Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval for 476 Multi -
Family Dwelling Units on Approximately 27.73 Acres in an
Existing R-15 Zoning District
D. Public Hearing for Knighthill Lot 3 Drive -Through (H-2017-0087) by
James Wylie Located Southwest Corner of Chinden Boulevard and
N. Linder Road Approved with Modifications — Prepare Findings for
August 3, 2017
Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval for a Drive-Thru
Establishment Within 300 Feet of Another Drive-Thru
Establishment
E. Public Hearing for Trust Storage (H-2017-0082) by John Day Located
Northeast Corner of S. Locust Grove Road and E. Puffin Street
Public Hearing Continued to August 3, 2017
1. Request: Combined Preliminary / Final Plat Consisting of Two
(2) Building Lots on 9.28 Acres of Land in the C -C
(Community Business) Zoning District
2. Request: Conditional Use Permit for a Self -Service Storage
Facility in the C -C Zoning District
Meeting Adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
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Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting July 20, 2017
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of July 20, 2017, was
called to order at 6:00 p.m. by Chairman Rhonda McCarvel.
Members Present: Rhonda McCarvel, Commissioner Gregory Wilson,
Commissioner Treg Bernt and Commissioner Bill Cassanelli.
Members Absent: Commissioner Steven Yearsley, Commissioner Ryan
Fitzgerald and Commissioner Jessica Perreault.
Others Present: Machelle Hill, Andrea Pogue, Bill Parsons, Josh Beach and
Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance
__X___ Treg Bernt _______ Steven Yearsley
__X___ Gregory Wilson ______ Ryan Fitzgerald
______ Jessica Perreault ___X___ Bill Cassanelli
___X___ Rhonda McCarvel - Chairman
McCarvel: All right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. At this time I'd like to
call to order the regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning -- Meridian Planning
and Zoning on July 20th, 2017. Let's begin with roll call.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda
McCarvel: Okay. The first item on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda.
We have Item No. H-2017-0058 by DMB Pine 43. They are asking for a
continuance and this item will be open just for the purpose of continuing this item
to the regularly scheduled meeting of August 3rd. It will solely be open for that
purpose, so if there is anybody here tonight to testify for that particular
application, we will not be taking testimony on that today. So, could I get a
motion to adopt the agenda as amended?
Cassanelli: So moved.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda. All in favor
say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
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Item 3: Consent Agenda
A. Approve Minutes of July 6, 2017 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting
McCarvel: Next item on the agenda is the Consent Agenda and we have just
one item on the Consent Agenda, the approval of minutes for July 6th. Could I
get a motion to accept the Consent Agenda as presented?
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I move to approve the minutes as presented.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to adopt the Consent Agenda. All
in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
McCarvel: At this time I would like to briefly explain the public hearing process
for this evening. I will open each item individually and, then, start with the staff
report. The staff will report their findings regarding how the item adheres to our
Comprehensive Plan and Uniform Development Code with the staff's
recommendations. After the staff has made their presentation the a pplicant will
come forward to present their case for approval of their application and respond
to any staff comments. The applicant will have 15 minutes to do so . After the
applicant has finished we will open to public testimony. There is a sign-up sheet
in the back as you entered for anyone wishing to testify and any person testifying
will come forward and be allowed three minutes and there is a timer on the
screen at the podium, so you can keep track of your time. If they are speaking
for a larger group, like an HOA, and there is a show of hands to represent the
group, they will be giving up to ten minutes. After all testimony has been heard,
the applicant will be given another ten minutes to have the opportunity to come
back and respond if they so desire . After that we will close the public hearing
and the Commissioners will have the opportunity to discuss and, hopefully, be
able to make a recommendation to City Council.
Item 4: Action Items
A. Public Hearing for Pine 43 (H-2017-0058) by DMB
Development Located South of E. Fairview Avenue, East
of N. Locust Grove Road, North of Commercial Street
and West of Hickory Avenue Public
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1. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 0.07 of an
Acre of Land with an R-15 (Medium High-Density
Residential) (0.01 of an Acre) and C-G (General
Retail and Service Commercial) (0.06 of an Acre)
Zoning District
2. Request: Rezone of 46.11 Acres of Land from the
C-G (General Retail and Service Commercial) to
the R-15 (Medium High-Density Residential)
Zoning District
3. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of
516 Lots on 119.77 Acres of Land Consisting of
108 Mixed Use (28 Commercial and 80 Multi-
Family Residential) Building Lots and 28 Mixed
Use Common Lots on 73.68 Acres of Land in the
C-G District and 356 Residential Building Lots
Consisting of 196 Single-Family Detached, 128
Single-Family Attached and 32 Attached
Live/Work and 24 Residential Common Lots on
46.12 Acres of Land in the R-15 Zoning District
McCarvel: So, at this time I would like to open the public hearing for Item No. H-
2017-0058, to be continued to August 3rd.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I move we continue to August 3rd, 2017, H-2017-0058.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to continue public hearing H-2017-
0058 to August 3rd. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
B. Public Hearing Continued from June 22, 2017 for 2 1/2
Street Townhomes (H-2017-0066) by Broadbent
Properties Located South of E. Franklin on the West
Side of 2 1/2 Street
1. Request: Rezone of 3.07 Acres of Land from the
C-C and R-15 Zoning District to the O-T Zoning
District
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2. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of
Fifty-One (51) Residential Lots and Seven (7)
Common Lots on 2.571 Acres of Land in the
Proposed O-T Zoning District
McCarvel: So, we will continue on with opening the continued public hearing on
H-2017-0066, 2 1/2 Street Townhomes and we will begin with the staff report.
Beach: Thank you, Madam Chair, Members of the Commission. As you said,
this -- this was a project that was continued to discuss some additional parking
that the Planning and Zoning Commission was concerned that there was not
adequate parking on the site, so they requested the applicant bring it back with a
modified site plan to accommodate some additional parking . So, you see on the
plat here they have changed it slightly to increase some open space. On the
next slide here you will see that they have -- they had added parking on both
sides of this block -- if I remember -- about 20 parking stalls here now. I
believe nine was the number that they came with before. So, the applicant is
requesting that the -- staff is in -- is recommending approval of those, but those
are the changes that the applicant brought back with some additional parking.
McCarvel: Any questions for staff? Okay. Would the applicant like to come
forward.
Truax: Madam Mayor, Commissioner, thank you for having me again. Bill Truax.
Do you need my address?
McCarvel: Yes. And your address.
Truax: My address 2832 South Courtside, Boise, Idaho. 83706. We went back,
got civil and landscape engineer, rebalanced the site. I think we had proposed --
well, some of the deliberation included a discussion of elimination of a couple of
the units and put in -- put in some stalls. At the end of the deliberation I don't
think there was specific guidance as to the number of parking stalls to add to the
development, but we went back added what we could, you know, we bounced it
by the staff folks for input. We still believe that the parking arrangement was
sufficient as we had it before, but we understand the concern certainly.
Restructuring it the way that we did also allowed for a longer continuous stretch
for street parking along 2 1/2 Street. So, the streets don't exactly line up with
Badley and Gruber, but ACHD was good with this -- this new arrangement. I
think there is 20 stalls. I think it added three additional street parking stalls.
Probably better circulation now with -- with the rebalanced parking added in
there, because now it's accessible to both sides of the development. The other
thing that we proposed was -- and this was actually at the recommendation of
one of the -- the gentlemen who was here in opposition to the development last
time. We proposed adding a provision to the CC&Rs to require that folks, if they
have a vehicle it is stored in the garage unit, so that the primary onus is on
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people to use the garage for the intended purpose, rather than for just storage.
So, we think that with that we will get pretty close to full utilization of the parking
in the building and, then, with that it should be suff icient.
McCarvel: Okay. Perfect. Any --
Bernt: Madam Chairman? I have a question for Mr. Truax. Previously there as
going to be some parking along the street. Is that -- and I don't remember -- is it
sort -- was it 2 1/2 Street that was going to have parking -- or sidewalk parking?
Truax: Yes.
Bernt: Is it still there?
Truax: Yes.
McCarvel: Okay. Anybody else? Thank you.
Truax: Thank you.
McCarvel: Okay. So, at this time I will open it to public testimony and I have --
Bill, is this you? This is you; right? Did you sign -- okay. Bill Gardoski.
Gardoski: William Gardoski at 1620 East 2 1/2 Street and I believe that the
apartments to be a good idea. What I think has happened, though -- I still see
real issues with parking. What about a Thanksgiving Day when any of these
people have relatives. Parking on the street -- 2 1/2 Street is narrow. They keep
talking about core downtown. There is no retail downtown and I don't see any
bicycling or walking for these people, but I think you have crammed so many --
the maximum amount of units in the minimum amount of space for the maximum
amount of profit and I don't think there is enough parking. I don't see enough
children's facilities. And there is -- again, if they have kids, the schools around
close are packed. They are full. And I think the parking issue is going to be a
real problem for 2 1/2 Street and no parking on the inside with the garages, I just
think it's -- it's going to -- and 2 1/2 is narrow right now and there is a lot of added
traffic going to be on there. The apartments are a good thing. I just think that 51
units on 2 1/2 acres is a lot of cramping and it would be nice if they could have
that, but I don't see them encouraging bicycling and walking. There is nowhere
to walk to. There is no retail really in downtown Meridian. They are going to be
in their cars going to the mall and in the summertime it's 100 degrees, they are
not going to walk, they are not going to ride a bike, they are going to take their
car. And the no parking -- I think the parking inside is going to be an issue with
fire lanes. I really do. I think there is just way too much crammed into too small
a space. The idea is good, having the owners, which I like better than what they
were going to do last year, but it's just way too much in a small space and I don't
think that the parking on the street is going to work, because the street is narrow
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now. So, the only thing you do is wait and see. We are for the housing, but not
the way it's presented. But we have been residents there for 25 years and I think
it's going to really disrupt it. It will increase the traffic by 150 percent. Thank you
for your time and I appreciate it.
McCarvel: Thank you.
Gardoski: You bet.
McCarvel: Okay. Mr. Gardoski was the only one I had signed up and is there
anyone else here that wishes to testify on this issue? Okay. At the time would
the applicant like to come back and address -- anything else? Then could I get a
motion to close the public hearing for H-2017-0066.
Bernt: Madam Chair, I move to close the public hearing for H-2017-0066.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing for Item
No. H-2017-0066. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
Bernt: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes. Commissioner.
Bernt: I -- I love this development. I was -- Commissioner Fitzgerald and I, from
the very beginning, you know, felt like the parking was adequate. I -- this is --
people need to realize -- and this is what I have came to realize as well -- this is a
different development compared to other developments -- other residential
developments. This is very different. This is a downtown development -- before
high density. I truly believe that we need these type of developments -- more of
these type, you know, developments downtown . I believe if we built these type of
-- support these type of developments I think that you're going to find that more
retail will come and I feel like, you know, more restaurants and the -- I believe
that -- that the downtown area is -- could -- very well could be and will be one day
the crowning jewel of our city and I -- I believe that these type of developments
will help bring more people to downtown to make that happen. So, I think that
parking is fantastic. You know, I think that came to a great agre ement there. I
think it's going to be great there. I think it's going to be great. I'm in favor of this
development one hundred percent. I thank Mr. Truax for -- for, you know,
coming up with more parking and I support it a hundred percent.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
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McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: There is not much more to add than that, other than, yeah, I mean I think
this is the next logical step in sort of the development of downtown and if you
look at other downtowns in the Treasure Valley, you know, this is -- these kinds
of housing developments are occurring and I think it's just the next step in our --
in the growth of downtown and I support it.
McCarvel: I agree. I think -- I think they did exactly what we asked them to do. I
think -- I counted up the units, I think we lost one unit and grew the parking by a
lot and I think it's just enough for visitors and stuff -- everybody's got their own
garages, so I think it's exactly what we asked them to do and I think it looks
great.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to
recommend approval to the City Council of file number H-2017-0066, as
presented in the staff report for the hearing date of July 20th, 2017.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2017-0066.
All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
C. Public Hearing Continued from July 6, 2017 for
Southridge Apartments (H-2017-0077) by Southridge
Farm, LLC Located South Side of W. Overland Road,
Midway Between S. Linder Road and S. Ten Mile Road
1. Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval for 476
Multi-Family Dwelling Units on Approximately
27.73 Acres in an Existing R-15 Zoning District
McCarvel: Okay. So, the next one is also a continuation. We will at this time
move to continue the public hearing for H-2017-0077, Southridge Apartments.
Beach: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Josh.
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Beach: Sorry, I jumped the gun there. I apologize. So, this is a -- also a
continuation, as you said -- this is a multi-family project that is located at -- it's
Overland Road between South Linder and South Ten Mile Road on the south
side. It's about 27.73 acres. I will go over any details that you would like. What
you asked the applicant to do is to bring back a site plan showing some
additional parking and as we are going through this I will have you indicate -- that
should be moved over a little. There is several areas where they added parking
that the parking won't actually work, because it's in a dedicated landscape buffer,
so some of the parking -- roughly about 15 spaces that they have added, they
can't -- they can't put in those locations. They have indicated that they have
added about 43, brought it up to 1.9 or two parking stalls per residential unit.
But, as I said, there is several that aren't going to work, so they will either have to
find another spot on site to put those or to lose some units in order to make up
for that. But that's what they submitted to us. And I will stand for any questions
you have got. Unless you want me to go through anything els e, but what you
asked them to do is ask them about the parking. They weren't directed to revise
anything. There were some concerns about trash enclosures. I counted ten. I
believe that's one additional than was there last -- so just be aware of that is all.
McCarvel: Any questions for staff? Okay. Would the applicant like to come
forward?
Thompson: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, I'm Tamara Thompson
with the Land Group. 462 East Shore Drive in Eagle. Point of clarification.
There were always ten trash enclosures. We miscounted last -- at the last
hearing. So, there were always ten and, then, we have received e-mail
confirmation from Republic Services that the ten that are proposed are adequate
for the size of the development. Regarding the parking count, we did add 43
parking stalls and just to clarify a few things , on the north part -- can I draw on
this? Well, I don't even think I have to. So, the two on the north -- the --
Overland Road is a -- has a larger entry corridor, so it has a 35 foot landscape
setback until we get to those two red circles. So, those -- it narrows down to 25
feet and what we are showing there, the parking is actually out of that 25 feet.
So, the architect -- this is the architectural plan and so he didn't have all those --
and he has that 25 foot landscape dash line in there the entire way and he
measured it incorrectly. It's actually measured from the back of the curb and so it
does work. So, those two on the north side are fine and so -- and so, then, the
ones down on the south, those actually work also with the grades. That's just a
slope easement that's back in there and it's -- but the grades actually work in
those areas, so -- so, everything that we have included actually works from a civil
engineering standpoint and per city setbacks and that kind of thing. There are
some gas lines on here that make it look like it doesn't and I apologize for that
confusion. So, just to -- to like circle back, the site as originally submitted
complied with city code required parking. Per the Commission's request we were
asked to go back and try to get two parking stalls per unit for the one bedrooms ,
one-and-a-half units -- or one-and-a-half parking stalls per unit is -- is required,
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but they just wanted across the board two. So, with that we have added 43
spaces. That takes the total spaces to 952, which is two spaces for each of the
476 apartment units. The total parking provides an excess that is similar to othe r
recently approved projects. There is six different projects that we looked at just
to see where things were. Forty percent of those that were recently approved
were right on the money. There was no surplus parking stalls. There were
several that were between three and five percent over what code requires and
we are on the upper end of that at 4.7 percent. So, where the -- we would be the
second highest surplus from the recently approved ones. So, we have 40 -- I'm
sorry -- 43 surplus parking stalls. Additionally, because no garages are proposed
in this facility, all parking will be available for use by vehicles and not used for
storage, like some of the comments last time were that code enforcement's
getting calls and typically those are with garages where people put their stuff in
them instead of their cars. And we are also next to the park and ride, out of all of
the ones that we looked at of recent, that we are the only one within walking
distance to a park and ride, which is down at the Ten Mile intersection. And,
then, one item that we had last time that we just wanted to clarify, condition 1.1.2,
the last paragraph in that section talks about preserving and protecting Old Thorn
Lane during construction and then -- but it also goes on to talk about relocating it.
So, just to clarify that, that Old Thorn Lane does run through the middle of
construction, so that road will be relocated and that connection -- the homes that
use that road will maintain that -- they will still be able to -- to get to their homes.
It will just be relocated. Not protected during construction. And with our revised
plan and that one clarification, will we respectfully request your approval tonight
and we will stand for questions.
McCarvel: Any questions for the applicant? Commissioner Bernt? Okay.
Thompson: Thank you.
McCarvel: All right. Thank you. And at this time we would be open to taking
public testimony on the issue that it was continued on. I don't have anybody
signed up, but is there anybody here that wanted to testify? Okay. Okay. If
there is no questions for staff or the applicant, can I get a motion to close the
public hearing for item number H-2017-0077.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I move to close the public hearing on H-2017-0077.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on H -
2017-0077. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Okay. Comments?
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Commissioner Cassanelli, since you are the reigning commissioner -- I have
actually gone back and read all the minutes from the previous meeting, since I
was absent, but I'd like to get your take.
Cassanelli: In general we didn't see a lot of the plans here tonight. A lot of green
space. Everybody was real positive on -- on the -- the -- the look. The green
space, the elevations, all that -- you know, I mean it's -- it's an enormous project.
I don't know if we have got anything to scale in the area. It's big, but it's -- it's
done nice. There is more green space than -- than -- than what's required. The
two topics that were addressed tonight were the ones that came up and I think
some of that was a bleed over from -- I wasn't here on the 22nd, but the -- the
parking from the 22nd and other projects as well -- we have seen other
apartment products where you get a lot of parking, it's bleeding out onto the -- the
neighboring streets. There are -- I mean you can't park on Overland, so that
takes that out.
McCarvel: Right.
Cassanelli: And the other one -- the lane, if you will, and it's kind of shared with a
neighboring residence to the -- to the east. So, I guess that's good. That was
kind of the overall flavor that everybody really liked it . Trash was a -- was a --
was a concern. They said that they could increase -- you know, I mean if need
be they could talk to Republican and increase the -- or SSC, whichever one is in
Meridian -- and increase the -- the -- the rate of pick up, so that wasn't an issue.
You know, I look at it and I see some of these buildings -- you got -- you got a bit
of a walk, you know, to go to a trash -- to a trash bin and maybe it looks worse on
the map than it would be in real life. It might just be a short little walk to -- to the
trash bin. So, that's been addressed. I guess my -- I have got a couple
questions for staff in regards to that matter. Number one, does -- do those
parking spots in the red -- will those fit within the landscape buffers and, then,
two, to piggyback on that, if we approve it with these parking spaces, can at a
later date -- let's say they get complaints about not enough trash bins , they want
to put in some trash bins, they take out a couple of parking spaces to put in some
more trash bins, is that allowable? So, those are my two questions.
Beach: Okay. So, typically they are required to keep the amount of parking
spaces that you require them to have. So, you know, once we approve a project
I don't know how we track that, though, if they decide they need more. You know
what I’m saying? I mean I don't -- I don't know -- I don't know how we look at
that. Typically we are not going to say, yeah, you can eliminate ten parking stalls
to put a trash enclosure in instead, because they are going to be required -- their
conditional use permit that you're granting specifically is going to dictate how
many parking stalls they have to have. As far as -- I'm going to switch my
screen. If you can kind of see what I'm looking at. We looked at the
Comprehensive Plan and Tamara's right -- and to go over here. You can see the
Comprehensive Plan and their plan -- the -- this green line here is what we call
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an entryway corridor and that's where your 35 foot landscape buffer is required
where they are proposing to put those -- those parking stalls on this side is within
just the 25. So, she's got an extra ten feet. So, I think as far as that goes we will
have to look and see how wide -- how many stalls were inside that -- that line.
And we can look again, too. It looks like it's going to be pretty close. As long as
she stays outside of that 25 feet, because we don't allow parking within that
landscape buffer. She should be okay. So, we will have to verify that that will
work.
Cassanelli: And, then, on the south side, you know, there was a grade there.
Beach: There is and so that's something they will have to work with -- the
irrigation district and I can let them cut into that -- that bank for parking, so it will
have to -- to make sure that it's -- that it's not going to be an issue and I don't -- I
don't know what the irrigation district is going to say on that. It's up to them.
Parsons: Madam Chair, Commissioner Cassanelli, if I can elaborate on your --
the first point of your discussion regarding -- if they had to lose parking to add
some trash enclosures, in our ordinance there is -- the staff has the ability to
make site changes. A couple ways we handle conditional use permits. The
director has the ability to do a minor CU mod to make some changes and if those
-- if they don't fit within that context, then, the conditional use goes back to the
Planning and Zoning Commission for approval. So, in this particular case,
because parking has been such a great -- an issue raised at the public hearing, if
the applicant were to lose parking, if you were to tie the site to the speci fic
parking count and they were to lose some parking, more than likely it would
trigger them to have to come back in front of the Commission for -- to have you
review the plan and look at the parking for this site. So, it's -- it's something to
consider when making your motion tonight. The other thing to keep in mind is
that the applicant does have a phase three and so if we do hear some concerns -
- let's say they get this phase one and phase two up and running and there is
some concerns with garbage and parking, we certainly can look at phase three
and maybe impose some other conditions where some of that parking could be
shifted from that north to this site to make up for that or add additional trash
enclosures with phase one and two and have -- and add the parking back to
phase three to address some of those concerns. So, I think we still have some
flexibility here, but I just want to let you know what the process is for at least a
staff approval to a conditional use versus what the P&Z would look at with a
modification to the conditional use permit.
McCarvel: Yeah. Because, Bill, didn't they have -- is there more density down
here in phase one and two with the thought that they were going to lose some
density in three in this overall --
Parsons: Madam Chair, Members of Commission, I wasn't at the -- this P&Z
hearing on --
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McCarvel: Okay.
Parsons: -- July 5th, but --
McCarvel: Yeah. I read something that --
Parsons: -- this plan presented to you does -- is a little bit higher density than
what was originally portrayed in their concept plan approved for this site. So,
yes, even though it's R-15, their density is at 17 units to the acre, so that's
something that you're taking under consideration tonight -- or least probably at
the previous hearing, too. I'm sure Josh mentioned that to you. So, it is a slight
bump. So, it's going to be whether or not -- we don't know what's going to
happen with phase three, because the way the DA is structured, if I'm not
mistaken, I think they have to come back for platting that portion. I think they
have to subdivide it and go through another conditional use permit . So, anything
that happens on that third phase will be coming back before you and the City
Council. But we can look at density on that particular property.
McCarvel: But right now --
Parsons: Now or later. It's your choice.
McCarvel: Yeah. But right now we are sitting at 17?
Parsons: That is correct. Approximately 17.
McCarvel: Okay. Yeah. I mean I -- I just don't think it's fair to compare this to
other recently approved projects. I mean this is on a much bigger scale in the
corner itself with the streets and the canal and everything kind of lock it in, so
there aren't the other options for parking out on the street that other sites may
have had and I think it -- you know, it's, obviously, the right corner for high
density. It looks like a good project. I just think we need to get the details right
on it and if the density is over anyway maybe that's part of the issue. Any other
thoughts? Anybody wanting to think out loud?
Cassanelli: Madam Chair, you said you went through the notes --
McCarvel: Uh-huh.
Cassanelli: -- from the last meeting. I don't recall a big conversation about
density being over, did you --
McCarvel: It may have been -- I don't -- no, it's not in the notes, but --
Cassanelli: What we --
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McCarvel: -- Bill just mentioned --
Cassanelli: -- I mean the comments and that mentioned -- you know, everybody
was fairly positive about the -- about it. The parking was -- was a big one that we
wanted to -- you know, you got one chance to do this and we didn't want to mess
with parking. So, that was -- I think that was a big thing. The trash was -- the
trash, as I mentioned, was an issue, but I don't recall conversation of being --
being over density on that. I think these units -- the number of units fit within the
-- the overall agreement; is that right, Josh? The number of units. Because
didn't they move some around from part of the project?
Beach: The request was to the -- so the request was to use some of the density
for phase three on this phase. It was about 60 units. Typically we don't have a
way to condition another portion of property to reduce their density, to increase
the density on another portion. Having said that, they have asked for a step up in
density, which allows for greater density than would otherwise be -- be allowed.
It -- it's not much higher than -- than the R-15, but you still have the ability to say
we don't want you to do that. We don't -- we don't want to go over 15. You can -
- you can ask them to reduce the number of units, which would also help with
your parking if you don't want to go to 17 . And I'd have to look up the exact
number that they are looking at for density. I have got it right here. So, the gross
density is 17.17 dwelling units per acre, with a net of 18.3.
McCarvel: So, they are planning on -- so, they are planning on evening that out
in phase three to reduce the overall density?
Beach: So, there was -- there was an overall unit count that they were allowed
and so they would have to -- I guess the development agreement limits them to a
certain number of units, so they wou ld have to -- they would have to reduce the
units on phase three in order to make up for that, is my understanding. If you're
not comfortable -- I mean so the things to think about here -- if the other phase
doesn't get built or doesn't get built for a long time, we don't -- we don't know
market conditions -- and this is for you to decide, but we could -- if you're trying to
make up parking later on another phase that may never happen , that's -- that's
something to think about. So, you have got -- have got an option. You can ask
them to increase parking. Having said that, there is not a whole lot of area to do
that or -- or to reduce the number of units and go for that.
Bernt: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Bernt.
Bernt: So, if -- if they were to stick within the 15 max for this -- for this density,
how would that affect the units -- the number of units?
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Beach: Have to do the math and I don't know exactly what the number would be,
but --
Bernt: Just even a ballpark. It don't need to be exact. Is it one, two, five, ten?
Half of it? What --
Parsons: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, the conceptual
development plan that was approved when this R-15 was in place, showed 416
units on the site. That's --
Bernt: That's five something?
Parsons: Yeah. That would be what was allowed. If you remember at the time
that this came through our zoning ordinance had a maximum density requirement
in the zoning district. So, zoning correlated to the amount of -- the maximum
density you can have on a property. A year or so ago we actually removed that
from the code. So, now density is not driven by the zone, density is driven by the
comp plan and so -- and under the comp plan the applicant has the ability to ask
for a step up in density and that's what they did with this application. So, staff
doesn't have heartburn with the increase in the density, but there is an overall
development agreement that caps this site to 1,277 residential units, I believe,
and so that's what we are using as a guide as additional multi-family comes in on
this -- out in this area and if any other single family homes come in, all of that is
part of that aggregate that's tied in with the development agreement for this
particular property and the adjacent residential that's developing to the southeast
of this project. So, again, staff doesn't have a problem with the increase in
density, it's just something that -- if you're having -- if you're struggling with
parking, that's a direct correlation with density; right? Because you lose -- you
have a concern with parking, you lose units, that's how you increase your parking
or you find an area that -- lose open space and increase parking. That's why we
bring it up. Again, staff doesn’t have any concerns with what the applicant is
proposing. I think the Commission, from my understanding, is you just wanted to
see additional parking to have some guest parking for the apartment complex
due to the size that their -- the number of units that they are proposing with this
development.
Bernt: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes, Commissioner Bernt.
Bernt: Bill, do you remember how many -- what the density was prior to making
the parking -- do you remember discussing that at all?
Cassanelli: And that's what I don't -- I don't recall discussing density that day. It
was -- mainly it was about parking. We gave them guidance on -- on two -- two
parking stalls per unit --
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McCarvel: Yeah.
Cassanelli: -- and that's what they came back with. Again --
Bernt: Did they take away units? Did you take away units?
Beach: The density hasn't changed. The number of units has not changed. It's
the same number of residential units. They just added more parking.
Bernt: Okay.
McCarvel: Yeah. If you want questions for the applicant, we need to open the
public hearing again.
Bernt: I sort of squeaked that one in. Sorry.
McCarvel: So, I think -- from the notes from the last meeting it looked like you
guys came down to requesting abou t 60 to 75 additional units and it looks like
they got about 43 if they are all valid and they can be done up along that canal.
Cassanelli: So, are they not even coming back with the -- with the number that
we -- the guidance that we gave them?
McCarvel: It doesn't look like it. You can -- this is -- the discussion on that. And
I apologize, sometime with all the commissioners being on vacation, we have
had -- out of seven we have got three out of the four that were gone last time and
three new -- three back that were gone last time.
Wilson: Well, it seems to me now that we are having a discussion about density,
which maybe should have happened before, it sounds like the assumption that
the density was fine kind of led to people increasing the parking. I don't know
what -- what do others think about the density? I mean you were --
Bernt: I don't know if I have a huge problem with the density. I mean -- I mean I
look at it and I -- I don't think I'm overwhelmed by the -- by the density per se.
McCarvel: Unless it causes problems in other areas.
Bernt: Right. Sure.
McCarvel: Which it seems to be doing.
Pogue: And Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes.
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Pogue: Josh, could you just clarify that the set number that they were held to in
the DA, this -- this project brings a 60 unit bump to that number, which does fall
within the standard of being substantially compliant with that number. That's why
we can have you consider it. But it is, still, a 60 unit bump from the total number
that they were -- is that correct; Josh?
Beach: Yeah. So, we look at the DA and we can say that there is a -- I'm going
to pull up the development agreement, too, so we can look at it a little bit more in
detail, if you all would like to do that. But I don't think the number of the units is --
is the concern. The concern. The concern that comes -- because that -- again,
they have got a certain number that they are allowed to have. So, if they do
more here, they just can't do as many in another phase.
Bernt: Is that next phase phase three; right?
Beach: Got it.
McCarvel: Right.
Beach: The issue that we have talked about was parking and the -- like I said,
that's something that if you -- it meets the code. Nine hundred and nine were the
number of spaces that meets the -- the code based on the -- if we look at the
number of one bedrooms is required to have 1.5 per unit and two and three are
required to have two. So, based on the number of units they have and the sizes,
they exactly meet what the requirement is.
Bernt: I thought they were five percent higher.
Beach: No. It's exactly the number that they needed. The concern from the
discussion that was at the last hearing was, yes, Overland Road is an arterial
road, you can't park on that at all. The road that's going to be built on the east
side is going to be a collector and you can't -- you can't park on that either. So,
the concern was, well, where do these folks park --
McCarvel: Where is the visitor parking.
Beach: -- park internally, because there is no additional parking spaces. This
proposal now is for five percent higher. Correct. So, the original proposal was
exactly the number, but they have come back with --
Bernt: But prior to they were add -- they were adding exactly where they needed
to be --
Beach: You got it. Now they have --
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Bernt: -- which means they have 4.8 percent higher than what the code is; am I
right?
Beach: Yes. And now there is additional, so it's --
McCarvel: It's a -- with the conditional use permit --
Beach: It was talked about, but there is 43 additional --
Bernt: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Uh-huh.
Bernt: So, where is the 60 -- I mean where did the number 60 come from? Why
was the number -- just made it up?
McCarvel: Well, after -- well, I mean there was discussion and -- because it
looks like there was about two or three pages of going back and forth of how
many do we want and they started with 90 and, then, they said somewhere
between 45 and 90 is -- okay, split the difference and, then, it was 75 and said
they would be happy with 60. So, they were just trying to give them a number as
a guideline, but they came back with 43, so -- but it's just alls we were -- I mean I
guess that's part of our -- this met exactly minimum code, but --
Cassanelli: Parking.
McCarvel: For parking. But in light of the fact that Overland -- there is no -- there
is literally no street parking here, the Commission the last time felt this project
needed a little extra parking internally than what the minimum code requires.
Wilson: I mean with that context, a little bit more information, I mean I think -- I
mean I think I'm fine with the density and I think the applicant, after kind of
knowing the full picture of what happened two weeks ago -- and it sounds like the
applicant -- that the numbers of 60 and 90, you know, they were kind of feeling a
way towards what the right number was in order to provide guidance . I think that
they have come back with something that works for them. It's five percent over.
I think I'm now comfortable with, you know --
McCarvel: They started with suggesting ten percent over and --
Wilson: Yeah.
McCarvel: -- got it down.
Wilson: So, I'm comfortable with recommending approval.
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McCarvel: As long as those spots are viable.
Bernt: I think that would be probably -- you need to put that in -- in the motion.
Cassanelli: Given that there is nowhere else to park and people are either --
they are going to figure it out, they are going to park at the park and ride and
walk a half a mile and get down there , they are going to move out, you know,
they are going to see what else -- because they cannot park on Overland, they
are not going to be able to park on the road to the east , it's a -- it's a collector. I
would have liked to have seen them come in with more spots, because we did
give them -- you know, looking at those notes we give them guidance of -- I mean
splitting the difference between two numbers, they went outside of that on the
low end. I would have liked to have seen them come up with -- with that. I think
about the only way they can do it -- they can either push some of the buildings
together more and lose green space, add some more parking, remove a building
all together. That would bring the density in line.
McCarvel: Or they take a third story off a building or two. I mean that reduces
the density, but --
Cassanelli: Correct.
McCarvel: -- I don't know how to -- I mean hold them to the reduced density
done in phase three -- you just don't know what's going to happen in the future.
Cassanelli: Well -- and that's -- I mean none of us may be here in the future and
have a whole new commission that doesn't have the -- the information that we
have now. I would rather -- I would rather approve things for today based on the
condition and what we know today and let -- you know. And not try and solve it
down the road.
McCarvel: I agree.
Cassanelli: That said, I'm not exactly quite sure. I would -- I would have liked to
have seen adjustments.
Bernt: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Bernt.
Bernt: What is the percentage right now of green space compared to what is
required?
McCarvel: I believe they are way over. Yeah. Way over.
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Beach: It's like 44 percent and -- it's quite a bit of green space that they have
got. A majority of it is going to be along the canal, because they can't -- they
have an easement there, so they can't -- they can't do anything with that. So,
there is that open space. They were also able to count as op en space half of the
buffer along Overland Road as part of their open space and they have got quite a
bit internally, too. I can go -- this is the concept. But you can kind of see here it's
not green, but there is black and white, but the darker area is all their landscaped
area. Anything that's 20 -- at least 20 by 20 counts towards open space in multi-
family. So, there is -- there is quite a bit.
McCarvel: And I think that's what they have requested.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: At the tail end of that do you -- do you see what the -- what was the
guidance -- was the guidance two per total flat across the board two per --
Bernt: Right how it's one point something --
McCarvel: I think for a while it looks like they were chasing overall two units
per --
Parsons: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, I was going -- I was going
to have some suggestions for you this evening to help you.
Bernt: Let's hear them. W hat are you waiting for?
Parsons: Well, I think we want to give the applicant flexibility. I think -- that
seems to be the key here. We are okay with density. We know market will kind
of drive what he does on this particular property and the number of units he
wants to get here. We know we have a DA that caps him at a number of units --
multi-family units specifically. So, we have ways to kind of capture that density
someplace else or reduce that density on this site in the future through that
development agreement, unless they come forth and modify that DA to change
their unit count. With that being said, for staff it would be simpler for your
condition, if you're good with their overall layout of the development and the
elevations and the open space -- and I hear you saying you are, I think it would
be easier, rather than capping the applicant at a specific parking stall count, I
would just say that the overall development needs to have two unit s -- two stalls
per unit. And that I would say make modifications with staff. We don't have to
come back with you guys to try to figure out how to add parking for those units.
We have that flexibility there. Like Josh says, the CDC, he's going to look at the
overall parking ratio and he's going to say two stalls per unit and we can do very
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easy math and get the correct parking that you guys want to have happen out
there. That's how I would structure that condition of approval.
Wilson: And that was, essentially, I think the aim of the --
McCarvel: The spirit of what was happening last week.
Wilson: -- we are fulfilling that, rather than going back and forth.
McCarvel: Yeah.
Wilson: Okay. Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to
approve file number H-2017-0077 as presented in the staff report for July 20th,
2017, with the condition -- hopefully I'm getting this right -- that each unit have at
minimum two parking spots per -- per unit.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2017-0077,
Southridge Apartments, with modification. All those in favor say aye. Opposed?
Motion carries. Congratulations.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
D. Public Hearing for Knighthill Lot 3 Drive-Through (H-
2017-0087) by James Wylie Located Southwest Corner
of Chinden Boulevard and N. Linder Road
1. Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval for a
Drive-Thru Establishment Within 300 Feet of
Another Drive-Thru Establishment
McCarvel: Moving on.
Bernt: Thanks, Bill. Sorry. You saved us a good half an hour.
McCarvel: Okay. At this time we would like to open a new public hearing for
Item H-2017-0087, Knighthill Lot 3 Drive-thru.
Beach: Madam Chair, this is a -- I will try to be brief. This is an application for a
conditional use permit for a drive -thru. Adjacent land use and zoning. To the
north is Chinden Boulevard and vacant and undeveloped -- vacant -- excuse me.
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Vacant, undeveloped commercial properties zoned C-C. To the east is the Black
Rock Coffee, which is in a C-G. To the south is Lochsa Falls Subdivision, zoned
R-4. To the west is vacant commercial property in Lochsa Falls Subdivision,
zoned C-N and R-4. In 2013 the property received approval of a new preliminary
plat and a development agreement modification and we received a final plat in
2014. The Comprehensive Plan future land use map designation for this
property is mixed-use community. The applicant is proposing to construct a
4,410 square foot multi-tenant building. The conditional use permit is for a drive-
thru for a restaurant and it consists of approximately 2,650 square feet of
building. All access points to the property were approved with th e preliminary
plat. Staff's analysis of the proposed development include the internal site
improvements and the site circulation of the drive-thru. The proposed site layout
is consistent with the concept plan approved for the Knighthill Center. Planning
and Zoning Commission should be aware that this will be the third drive -thru in
the development. The staff does not anticipate that the number of drive-thrus will
increase the number of internal conflicts. The UDC requires a conditional use
permit if a drive-thru establishment is within 300 feet of a residential district or
another drive-thru. Staff's analysis of the proposed development includes the --
as I said, the internal site improvements. Staff did not receive any comments
from -- any public comments on this. The applicant will be required to obtain a
certificate of zoning compliance and administrative design review approval for the
project. We are recommending approval of the project and I will stand for any
questions you have.
McCarvel: Any questions for staff? Okay. Would the applicant like to come
forward, please. And as you approach the mike just state your name and
address for the record.
Wylie: James Wylie. 1464 East Territory Drive, Meridian. Madam Chair,
Members of the Commission, thank you for your time. Josh pretty much said it
all. The only thing I have to add is we do agree to the conditions set forth in the
staff report and we just ask for your affirmative vote on the project.
McCarvel: Okay.
Wylie: I will stand for any questions.
McCarvel: Any questions? Short and sweet. All right. No questions. Thank
you. I have a couple people signed in. We have -- do you go by Jake? Okay.
So, that was you on the sign-up sheet. I have Eric and Kenny. Did you wish to
speak? Okay. Anybody else here wishing to speak on this issue? Okay. All
right. Can I get a motion to close the public hearing for Item No. H-2017-0087?
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
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Cassanelli: I move to close the public hearing of the Knighthill Lot 3 Drive-thru,
H-2017-0087.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on H-
2017-0087. All those in favor say aye. Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
McCarvel: Commissioners, thoughts?
Cassanelli: Two questions.
McCarvel: Sure.
Cassanelli: For staff that -- can you go back to a site plan? Thank you. The
larger one that's -- takes into consideration the projects on the -- to the west
where that Everest Lane comes through. It -- there we go. Thank you. What's
that going to do to that Everest Lane? Is that going to -- is that going to come
through into that or is that going to dead end right there?
Beach: It already does. Everest is a -- is a private lane and it connects to a
private drive aisle through the Knighthill Center. That's not a public road in there.
So, it's going to stay there. If you follow my mouse, the drive aisle goes straight
out to Chinden and continues through and kind of comes out here on Linder. So,
if your question is what is it going to do to that, I'm not -- I'm not sure what that --
what that question is getting at.
Cassanelli: Yeah. Does that Everest Lane -- is that -- so that -- that access
won't be blocked, they will still --
Beach: Right.
Cassanelli: -- Everest will still have access through that -- through that retail
establishment.
Beach: Correct.
Cassanelli: Okay. That was -- that was one question. The other question -- it
might seem silly, but going now to the project slide, handicapped stalls are away
from the building. Is that normal?
Beach: We have got that covered already in a condition that they move closer to
the building.
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Cassanelli: Okay.
Beach: So -- we noticed that as well.
Cassanelli: Otherwise the project looks good to me. I don't see an -- I don't see
an issue with the drive-thru and the other drive-thrus that exist there.
McCarvel: Yeah. I think they have some items in the staff report about making
some markings and stuff to make drivers aware that there is more t raffic coming.
So, I think --
Wilson: Pretty standard.
McCarvel: Yeah. So, I think it's covered in the --
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to
approve file number H-2017-0087 as presented in the staff report for the hearing
date of July 20th, 2017.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seco nded to approve file number H-2017-
0087. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
E. Public Hearing for Trust Storage (H-2017-0082) by John
Day Located Northeast Corner of S. Locust Grove Road
and E. Puffin Street Public Hearing
1. Request: Combined Preliminary / Final Plat
Consisting of Two (2) Building Lots on 9.28 Acres
of Land in the C-C (Community Business) Zoning
District
2. Request: Conditional Use Permit for a Self-
Service Storage Facility in the C-C Zoning District
McCarvel: Okay. At this time we will -- I will open the public hearing for Item No.
H-2017-0082, Trust Storage. We will begin with the staff report.
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Parsons: Thank you, Madam Chair, Members of the Commission. The next item
-- the last item on the agenda this evening is the Trust Storage, combined
preliminary/final plat and conditional use permit application. The site consists of
9.28 acres of land, currently zoned C-C, and it's located at the northeast corner
of South Locust Grove and East Puffin Street. To the north of the site we have a
C- Store and fuel facility and a car wash, zoned C-C. South we have an LDS
church, zoned R-8. Multi-family residential and Mountain View High School
zoned L-O and R-4 to the east. And to the west we have Locust Grove and
assisted living facility and single-family residential uses, zoned L-O and R-4. In
2000 this property was annexed in with a C-N zoning designation and in 2010 it
came back before the commission as -- with a preliminary plat and a rezone
application, known as the Summerton Subdivision. The portion that is currently
developed with the Fast Eddy's site was phase one of that subdivision. The
subsequent phases were never completed and so that preliminary plat has
expired and that's why the applicant is here this evening to replat the remnant
portion of this particular property. I would mention to the Commission that with
the rezone of that property, a new development agreement was required. The
plan that is before you this evening is consistent with the recorded -- so, the
applicant is not required to modify that agreement with City Council. The
combined preliminary/final plat consists of two building lots. There is a Lot 1,
Block 1, which is along Locust Grove and, then, Lot 2, Block 1, will be where the
-- the Trust Storage facility site is proposed. At this time Lot 1 is not -- does not
have any development proposed for it. It will come back through whatever
process or whatever use is proposed for that site, whether it's staff level approval
or a conditional use permit approval, but once the plat records that will be a legal
lot for future development and, then, Lot 2, Block 1, again, as I stated for the self-
storage facility, which will house 14 storage buildings and an office building on
approximately seven plus acres or so. Or eight acres or so. Access points to
this development were approved with the previous preliminary plat and are
currently constructed, so there is a shared cross-access agreement that runs
east to west that ties into a main north-south cross-access driveway that heads --
connects to the Fast Eddy's site and, then, there is a full access to Locust Grove
and, then, also a full access to East Puffin Street along the south boundary.
Here is their proposed site plan and landscape plan before you this evening. As
you can see here the development is bisected by that cross-access driveway. To
the east as part of the development of the site the applicant is required to
construct a 25 foot wide landscape buffer along Locust Grove . You can see on
this graphic that Lot 1, Block 1, is exclusive -- does not include the required
landscape buffers, so the applicant has been conditioned to include that prior to
signature on the plat. East Puffin Street is a local -- designated a local street, so
the UDC requires a ten foot wide landscape buffer along that roadway and
because this site sits adjacent to multi-family on the east, the applicant is
required to construct a 25 foot wide landscape buffer between the multi -family
use and the proposed storage facility. The landscape plan before you -- or at
least this portion along the east boundary currently does not meet current UDC
standards. The UDC requires that any trees that are planted along that boundary
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be touching at maturity and you can see these trees are approximately based on
one tree for every 35 linear feet. So, additional plantings will need to be added
along that side of the proposed storage facility. You can see the -- because of
the cross-access here between the two developments, staff has some concerns
with maybe vehicle stacking and entering into the eastern portion of the site, so
staff has recommended that the applicant work with the adjacent property owner
and include some kind of traffic calming in that north-south ease -- or cross-
access driveway here to mitigate any of those concerns. You either put in some
speed bumps or put in some -- maybe some stop signs here or controlled
intersections to slow down traffic as they head through the two developments. I
would also mention to you that this landscaping on this site is pretty minimal for a
storage facility, but the UDC does require that landscaping be placed along the
drive aisles and so as I noted in the staff report, the applicant is proposing
landscaping along the east side of the drive aisle and the south side of Building D
here, but it does not include the required trees. So, they will have to increase the
plantings in those areas and, then, also if you look at the west side of the west
half of the storage facility a buffer isn't even proposed for that side of the drive
aisle. So, staff -- I didn't catch that in my review of the staff report, so I am
recommending that you add a new condition this evening that includes a -- at a
minimum a five foot wide landscape buffer with trees every one per 35 linear feet
along that east boundary of Building C. Here are the proposed -- well, one
other additional item that I noted in the staff report. If you look at the eastern
portion as well you can see that the applicant is proposing some outdoor storage
on the site. Some of these areas are also open to view from the adjacent streets,
so staff has asked the applicant provide you some details on how they plan on
screening those areas. The UDC does require that the applicant screen it with a
wall or solid material. Typically these facilities are all screened by buildings, but
in this case there are some open areas, so the applicant will have to address that
for you this evening and, then, also address for you how they intend on using this
outdoor storage area, whether it's for parking internally in the site or is it for RV
storage or boat storage or something to that effect. I think they have some
information for you on that as well. So, that's something that staff has asked for
clarification for you this evening as you take deliberations on this application .
The last item that I want to touch bases on are the proposed building elevations
for the site. As I mentioned in the staff report, the elevations as submitted do not
comply with the current design standards manual or architectural standards
manual. The applicant has proposed the entire facility be constructed out of
metal siding. The architectural standards manual does allow the use of metal
siding, it just doesn't allow it as a primary building material . So, it needs to be
limited as an accent material only. If you look at the surrounding developments
in the area -- and this is what I noted in the staff report -- is there is some pretty
high quality office buildings in the area and if you look at Mr. Eddy's fuel facility
site there north of this, there is some pretty substantial architectural details of
those building. So, staff has recommended that the applicant incorporate some
of those design elements into the storage facility and I think they want to address
that with you as well. So, staff did receive an e-mail this afternoon from Alisa
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Barrett in regards to this application. Her primary concern was that the
Commission allow the north-south shared driveway to remain open as part of this
development. She was concerned about people having to get on to Locust Road
and they turn back into the Steve Eddy site and with this application, again, those
cross-access agreements are in place, so staff is not in favor of losing any of
those cross-access driveways or changing any of the proposed access --
approved access points with this development. So, the way it's constructed
today is the way it will remain if you choose to move this application on to City
Council with a recommendation. Staff is recommending approval with the
conditions in the staff report. With that I will conclude my presentation and stand
for any questions you may have.
McCarvel: Okay.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair, quick question.
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: Bill, the -- you cover everything in your conditions, except for the --
what is it, five -- minimum five foot wide landscape buffer. How many trees were
you -- can you repeat that? Thirty-five? One per 35?
Parsons: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, that is correct. Code
requires a minimum of five foot wide landscape buffer and, then, one tree for --
per every 35 linear feet.
Cassanelli: But in your conditions you do have -- you're calling out for some sort
of traffic mitigation in there?
Parsons: Yes. I'm asking for traffic mitigation somewhere along in here, whether
it's speed bumps or controlled intersection or some kind of choker there to try to
minimize or slow down traffic through there.
McCarvel: I believe there are stop signs there right now.
Parsons: Okay. If you feel that's adequate and we can strike that condition and
just --
McCarvel: But the one we will need to add will be the five foot landscape buffer
along --
Parsons: That's Building C.
McCarvel: -- the access or --
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Parsons: Yeah. That's Building C is this -- where you see my cursor going up
and down, that's labeled Building C on the site plan.
McCarvel: Okay. Any other questions for staff? Okay. Would the applicant like
to come forward? And as you approach the mike, please, state your name and
address for the record.
Day: John Day. 3501 North 32nd Street. Thank you, Madam Chair,
Commissioners. Yeah. So, we are here requesting approval for this combined --
excuse me -- combined and preliminary plat and conditional use. I think Bill
spelled out the details for you on the project. We are -- we are accepting of all
the staff's conditions with the following clarifications or revisions requested. So,
item -- specific conditions of approval number -- item 1.1.3.C states that the plat
shall be recorded prior to applying for a building permit . We would request that
we would be able to apply for a building permit prior to the recording of the final
plat. We understand the requirement after that would be that we would receive
approval and recording of final plat prior to occupancy. Reason being is we are
trying to get this constructed and get it paved prior to November. So, we are up
against a time limit. Item 1.1.4, the parking lot landscaping and landscape buffer.
We did meet with Bill earlier this week. We did discuss the additional five foot
landscape buffer on the west side of the north side -- north-south access street
and we are in agreement that that's -- that's all right and we will construct that.
And, then, also regarding the landscaping in further discussions with Bill earlier
this week, we would like to state that -- for the record that the owner has decided
to implement some water-saving landscape techniques and so we are going to
be applying those. That will meet -- you know, to meet the municipal code and
so the revised landscape plans will -- will be reflecting those conditions.
Regarding the traffic calming, if the stop signs are already there, that's fine. We
are accepting putting those in if they are not. I'm curious -- I have been out there
on the site. I don't remember exactly where they are, but I would assume that
they are on the north-south -- or, excuse me, they are on the west access and so
the north-south is a through street and that's probably the way we would like to
see it, but we are okay with calming methods there. Regarding the exterior look
of the building, again, we met with Bill prior to this hearing. We understand the
issues that staff takes with the proposed design . I think we had a very good
meeting discussing these and I don't see any reason why we are not going to be
able to meet the requirements of the development code on the design review
submittal and the certificate of zoning committee -- submittal. So, again, work we
are confident that we can meet those requirements moving forward with them .
As far as the fencing goes, again, we are in agreement that solid fencing will be
proposed and will be constructed. We would request, though -- I guess -- so, on
Puffin Street we have no -- no issues on the north side of Puffin Street, south
side of Lot 1. We take no issues with the solid fencing there. One thing we
would like to see, if we could put some kind of wrought iron open fencing that
would be between -- sorry, Bill. Those two little openings on the east-west of --
what is that building? F? So, the small little openings on the east and west side.
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Right there. Uh-huh. And, then, over on the other side. It's our understanding
that these aren't necessarily open to the public right of way and, therefore, they
are not necessarily required to be solid screened. We would like to keep them
open a little bit -- a little bit transparent for some safety reasons within the
complex. So, again, we propose in those two areas we would like to see kind of
a wrought iron open fence. But, then, all along south -- the south side of the
buildings on Puffin we are okay with solid and, then, to address the -- and the
solid parking in the parking area, H, you know, we are accepting of solid fence
along there as well. That parking area is for surface storage of small vehicles. It
is not for RV parking. The buildings you see on the larger lot on the north and
the east, those are all RV parking. They are covered. Three sides. Two sides
and a roof, each unit. So, the surface storage is only for smaller car, smaller
boats. The parking sizes are about 11 by 22 feet, so they shouldn't be big
enough for large RVs and that's not the intent of them , so -- other than those
clarifications or revisions we are accepting of the staff's report. Is there any other
questions?
McCarvel: I have got a question. I'm hearing a couple of different words here. I
just want to make sure we are all on the same page. I hear you using the word
solid fencing and I heard Bill use the words wall and to me that means some sort
of concrete wall. What -- are we close to the same page there? Do we all have
the same meaning? What are we all actually talking about here?
Parsons: Good question, Madam Chairman, Members of the Commission.
When I met with the applicant earlier this week it was -- we had discussed the
possibility of a -- of a block wall and that's why I spoke to the -- the terms of a
wall. I can certainly scroll up into my staff report and speak to what the standard
says and we can go from there.
McCarvel: Okay. So, I guess I'm asking you what -- what is your interpretation?
I'm hearing you use the word fence -- solid fence --
Day: Well -- and I guess in this case it would be a wall. It was something solid
that you cannot see through.
McCarvel: Right. We are not talking about some chain link or --
Day: No.
McCarvel: -- some PVC fence --
Day: Gosh, no. No.
McCarvel: That's not -- that's not what you meant using the word fence.
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Day: Yes. Sorry. A solid fence. So, something that you cannot see through,
so --
McCarvel: Okay.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair? In addition to that, Bill, if you're looking that up, what
-- what's the height requirement?
Parsons: Madam -- Madam Chair, Members to the Commission, the height in
that zoning district would be up to eight feet. Minimum six.
Cassanelli: Minimum six, up to eight. Six to eight feet.
Parsons: That's your range.
McCarvel: I would guess we would want to probably go eight on that open area
there where there is no building. That could be part of our discussion.
Parsons: So, Madam Chair, Members to the Commission, the specific use
standard as it's written in code, it says storage facility shall be completely fenced,
wall or enclosed and screened from public view. That's why --
Cassanelli: Bill, can you repeat that? Did it say entire?
Parsons: Shall be completely fenced, wall, or enclosed and screened from public
view.
McCarvel: Okay.
Parsons: So, that's -- that's why they are asking for the -- wrought iron fence on
that one, but it's still -- it says completely screened.
McCarvel: Right. Okay. And, then, another question -- I mean the elevations --
you have to show it -- do we have any other elevations on what your thoughts are
going to be on those exterior materials? I mean -- because I don't think the metal
is going to obviously --
Day: No. No. And we are in agreement with that. You know, we had talked
with Bill about replacing some of the metal with stucco and either CMU block to
break it up and, then, use just the metal as the accent colors, just some of the --
the panels you will see will be constructed out of -- out of stucco. So, for
instance, the blue or specifically let's talk about the tan panels, those would all be
one kind of -- one panel made out of stucco or one panel made out of CMU
block. The blue would be one panel as well, with a different building material.
McCarvel: Somebody -- see how it --
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Day: No. I will say -- well, and so -- the colors are part of this. This is the
second storage unit that the client has constructed and so the client has put out a
brand and these are the colors that he's used. So, we try to stay consistent with
the brand, hence the colors. So, we understand the city's -- you know, the staff's
concerns with the materials and the colors and, again, we feel like we can work
with -- work through this with them -- with the proposed materials. They just
talked about CMU and/or stucco and using metal as an accident. And additional
to that -- which isn't reflected very well in these elevations, just that those panels
are popped out from the face of the wall by eight inches, approximately. So,
there is some relief horizontally and vertically as you can see from the parapet.
McCarvel: Okay. Any other questions for the applicant at this point? Okay.
Thank you.
Day: Thank you.
McCarvel: We will move forward to public testimony and, John, you were the
only one signed up; right? Okay. Is there anyone else here that wishes to testify
on this -- okay. And I assume you don't want to come forward again. Okay.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair, I have a quick question for the applicant.
McCarvel: Oh. Could the applicant come forward before we close the public
hearing.
Cassanelli: He may be able to shout it out. The -- the two towers there --
Day: There is two different perspective view of it, so --
Cassanelli: Okay. What's the height of that?
Day: Gosh, you got me there. I want to say we were the 28 foot range.
Cassanelli: You say 28?
Day: Yeah. I honestly can't remember. It was either 24 or 28.
Cassanelli: Okay. Thank you.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I move we close the public hearing on H-2017-0082.
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Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on H-2017-
0082. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
McCarvel: I can go first. I just -- I really want to see these building materials
upgraded, just based on what the surrounding area is. I think -- I mean nobody's
allowed to just go put metal buildings on their own property when the
subdivisions are on there and you have got a gas station, the car wash there,
that's went way overboard. It looks beautiful. It gorgeous. You know, as well as
the school and all the other things around there are substantial building
materials. I think it would be a shame and they can't do it with code, but -- yeah.
The building materials shown scare me a little. I don't know if we want to have
them bring another elevation back or if we just want to -- is staff okay with what's
in the code and they are going to have to meet code?
Parsons: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, certainly the way the
condition is written it -- it says they need to comply with the design standards and
that's going to require a change of materials. Now, what I will mention to you is
this is a conditional use permit, so I mean anything is on the table for you, if there
is something that you prefer to see, something that you could add as a condition
of approval. I think in meeting with the applicant earlier in the week I was
comfortable that at least -- at least the roof lines and the building façade does
modulate. As he mentioned, some of those panels do stick ou t eight inches, so
it's not going to -- my concern is looking at this perspective was that you have
one long straight blank wall with really stark colors and only a variation in
patterns and so that could be a little daunting, particularly along a local st reet -- a
public street. That's really where design review kicks in and we really want to
see something that blends in with the surrounding development. That's really the
intent of design review is to get something that is consistent with the surrounding
development, so it doesn't look out of place. One could argue -- now what I will
say to the Commission is that we don't regulate color and to me the green and
the blue are probably going to be the starkest thing out there to anything else,
because everything in that area are earth tone colors and that's what I shared
with the applicant earlier in the week, too, is it's -- if we can get some of that
material as accent, I think we can be supportive of it, but we have got to try to get
it to blend in better with the surrounding area. That's the intent of the design
manual and limiting that metal siding and providing some of those other
materials, that stucco, some rock, something on the office building to blend in. I
mean there is ways to do it. Again, as far as the modulation of the building, I
think we have got that covered with those panels popping out and the changes in
the roof line. We just need to come to a consensus on the appropriate metal
accent and color scheme and potentially how they are going to -- what else they
are going to use, whether it's going to be stucco or block. It's c ertainly within
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your purview to kick it out to see additional elevations before you kick it on to the
City Council or if you feel comfortable with the way the condition is written right
now it says they need to compliment the surrounding development and they need
to comply with the architectural standards manual. And that's how we have it
structured at this point.
McCarvel: Okay. Yeah. I think -- I mean it's a great place for a storage unit.
You got apartments there and -- I mean the way things are being built in Meridian
with all the apartments and smaller homes, storage units are in demand. But I
agree that -- that corner has potential of being a really nice corner. There is a lot
of storage units, you kind of -- it just blends in and there is others that kind of
stick out, so I just want to make sure the design standards are met.
Bernt: And I get why they want to -- you know, it's his brand, you want to create
a brand when people are, you know, driving on the street they -- you know, you
want them to look at your facilities and know who you are and what you do and I
get that. So, the only thing that I feel -- and I agree -- you know, this is a great
location for a storage facility. It's fantastic. I would feel more comfortable
probably, you know, asking them to redesign knowing exactly what those
materials are before we send it off to City Council. Like I want to be able to see it
-- I mean I feel like I don't -- I don't want to blankly say I want this changed --
want this changed and send it off without knowing what those changes are.
McCarvel: Right.
Bernt: So, I would rather have like a completed project, you know, before we
send it off to City Council. I think that -- that would be my only thought with
regard to that.
McCarvel: Okay.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: There was also a request to get the building permit before the final
plat. In the past we have I think kind of shied away from doing that. I understand
they are wanting to get -- to get some pavement down before the weather turns,
but I think that's --
McCarvel: I think at the rate things are being built we don't want to miss crossing
the T's and dotting the I's I think.
Cassanelli: And, then, other comment that -- that I have -- two comments, I
guess. I would like to see -- I would like to see us along the side of eight foot, not
six foot --
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McCarvel: Right.
Cassanelli: -- that you mentioned. And any -- what -- I kind of want to get an
idea of -- of everybody's else's thoughts on that -- on that tower, if you will. Quite
a bit higher that stands out.
McCarvel: Uh-huh. Yeah. And I realize it's good for advertising, but on the
same token usually people who need a storage unit have -- are seeking out the
ones that are fairly close to them. The -- do we want to just move to continue to
see the elevations?
Cassanelli: I think so. And, then, have them add in the landscape --
McCarvel: Yes.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: Based on the information I move to continue file number H-2017-
0082 -- we haven't chosen a hearing date, have we.
McCarvel: You want August 3rd or the 17th, Bill? Does the applicant have --
Parsons: Does the applicant have a preference? 3rd? Okay. August 3rd.
Cassanelli: Okay. I move to continue file number H-2017-0082 to the hearing
date of August 3rd for the following reasons: More elevation images showing --
showing approved building materials and fitting in with surrounding
developments, as well as the addition of the landscape buffer on Building C.
McCarvel: And fencing.
Cassanelli: And fencing.
Bernt: Do you want to be specific with the fence?
Cassanelli: The fence. Thank you.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to continue H-2017-0082, Trust
Storage, to the date of August 3rd, 2017. All those in favor say aye. Opposed?
Motion carries.
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MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
McCarvel: One more motion.
Bernt: Madam Chair, I move that we adjourn tonight's meeting.
Cassanelli: Second.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded twice to close the meeting for July
20th. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
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Changes to Agenda:
• Item #4A: Pine 43 — AZ, RZ, PP (H-2017-0058) — Request for continuance to August V so the applicant can provide
additional information to address Staff's comments regarding the plat design.
Item #4B: 2.5 Street Townhomes (H-2017.0066)
Application(s):
➢ Rezone
➢ Preliminary Plat
Size of property, existing zoning, and location: This site consists of 3,07 acres of land, zoned C -C and R-15, located south of E.
Fairview Ave. on the west side of 2 and a Half Street.
Adjacent Land Use & Zoning:
1. North: Commercial property (Rite-Aid), zoned C -C
2. East: Single-family residential property, zoned R-8
3. South: Single-family residential property, zoned R-15
4. West: Commercial properties, zoned C -C
History: None
Comprehensive Plan FLUM Designation: MU -NR
Summary of Request:
The applicant has applied to rezone 3.07 acres of land from C -C and R-15 zoning districts, to the 0-T zoning district.
The proposed plat consists of 51 building lots and 7 common lots on 2.571 acres of land in a proposed 0-T zoning district. The gross
density for the subdivision is 18.28 d.u./acre with a net density of 25.36 d.u./acre. The average lot size is 1,055 square feet.
Access: Access is proposed for this site via two access points from NE 2 and a Half Street. The applicant is proposing private streets
through the development.
Private Street: The UDC requires private streets to be constructed within an easement and have a travel lane width of 24' or 26' with
no allowed parking as determined by the Fire Marshal. The applicant is proposing a private street for the development that is being
proposed as a common lot. The proposed private streets are to be constructed as a 24 -foot street section and include a 5 -foot sidewalk
(pathway) on one side on all private roads with the exception of the private road on the west side of the property.
Private streets are not intended for single-family development unless those homes front on a mew. The applicant has provided a mew
for a large number of the lots, and due to the additional open space provided and the applicant's vision for tree -lined streets, staff is in
favor of the request for private streets.
Phasing: The applicant is proposing to develop the project in two phases. The layout of the phasing plan depends on availability of
utilities for the project. The applicant will need to coordinate with public works.
Parking: The submitted plat depicts 51 single-family attached home that each contain a 2 -car garage. The applicant has also provided
9 off-street parking spaces within the development.
The applicant is asking for alternative compliance to reduce the parking requirements for the development from the required 4 parking
stalls per unit containing 2, 3, or 4 bedrooms to 2 stalls per unit. The applicant has received approval from MDC to reduce their parking
requirement.
Landscaping: A landscape plan was submitted with this application for the area proposed to be platted. Landscaping for this project is
not required, however the applicant has provided 0.71 of an acre in unqualified open space. This are includes the mew lots, the area
with the tot lot, internal pathways, etc.
The applicant shall provide a revised landscape plan at least ten days prior to the City Council hearing.
The applicant should also be aware that there is an 8' sewer main along the west boundary. Trees will not be allowed to be planted
over the main.
Open Space/Site Amenities: The applicant has proposed parkways, mew lots and a tot lot for the development.
Although this development does not meet the threshold to require amenities, the applicant has proposed to include a tot lot as part of
the project due to the fact that there are limited options for children to play in the immediate area.
Sidewalks: The applicant proposes to construct a 5 -foot wide detached sidewalk along 2 and a Half Street as well as 5 -foot walkways
through the development and along several of the private streets.
Existing structures: The applicant will be removing several structures from the property and these shall all be removed prior to
signature on the final plat.
Building Elevations: The applicant has submitted some conceptual sample building elevations for future homes in this development,
included in Exhibit AA, Building materials consist of board and batten, asphalt shingles, and fiber -cement siding.
Design Review (DES): A CZC and DES application is required to be submitted prior to issuance of building permits for the single
family attached homes. With the submittal of the DES application, the applicant shall submit a master site plan that designates the
design, color schemes and variations for each unit. The applicant must comply with the design standards listed in UDC 11-3A-19 and
the guidelines contained in the Architectural Standards Manual.
Written Testimony: None
Staff Recommendation: Approval w/ conditions
Notes:
Possible Motions:
Approval
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to recommend approval to City Council of File Number H-2017-
0066, as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of July 20, 2017, with the following modifications: (Add any proposed
modifications to conditions)
Denial
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to recommend denial to City Council of File Number H-2017-
0066, as presented during the hearing on July 20, 2017, for the following reasons: (You should state specific reasons for denial)
Continuance
I move to continue File Number H-2017-0066 to the hearing date of (insert continued hearing date here) for the following
reason(s): (You should state specific reason(s) for continuance)
Item #4C: Southridge Apartments (H-2017-0077)
Application(s):
➢ Conditional Use Permit
Size of property, existing zoning, and location: This site consists of 27.73 acres of land, zoned R-15, located at on the south side
of W. Overland Road, midway between S. Linder Road and S. Ten Mile Road.
Adjacent Land Use & Zoning: The subject property is primarily surrounded by developed and undeveloped commercial and
residential properties, zoned RUT (Ada County), R-2, R-8, L-0 and TN -R.
Comprehensive Plan FLUM Designation: MHDR
Summary of Request:
Conditional Use Permit (CUP): A CUP is requested for the development of multi -family residential uses on the subject 27.73 acre
property in the R-15 zoning district. The UDC (Table 11-2A-2) also requires CUP approval for a multi -family development in the R-15
zoning district.
The multi -family residential development is proposed to consist of 476 dwelling units within (42) 2 and 3 -story structures on 27.73 acres
of land. The units will consist of 1, 2 and 3 -bedrooms containing 500-800 s.f. for the 1 -bedroom units and 800-1,200 s.f. for the 2 and 3 -
bedroom units. There are 1181 -bedroom units, 238 2 -bedroom units and 120 3 -bedroom units. The 2 and 3 story buildings vary in
design and layout.
An approximately 6,000 s.f. clubhouse and 2,000 s.f. pool house are proposed for the development. The clubhouse is proposed to
contain a fitness facility and a meeting room with kitchen. The applicant shall provide elevations and further details of these structures
prior to the Planning and Zoning Commission.
As stated above, staff finds that the proposed project is substantially compliant with the concept plan approved in the development
agreement.
All of the proposed uses are consistent with those desired in MHDR designated areas and are allowed in the R-15 district; the multi-
family residential use is allowed as a conditional use.
Off-street vehicle parking is required to be provided on the site in accord with the standards listed in UDC 11-3C-6. For multi -family
developments, parking standards are based on the number of bedrooms per unit —1 -bedroom units require 1.5 spaces per unit with at
least one of those in a covered carport or garage and 2 -bedroom units require 2 spaces per unit with at least one of those in a covered
carport or garage. For commercial development, one space is required for every 500 s.f. of gross floor area.
For the clubhouse and pool house, a minimum of one space per 500 square feet of gross floor area is required to be provided in accord
with the standards listed in UDC 11-3C-613. Based on a 6,000 square foot clubhouse and a 2,000 square foot pool house, 16
parking spaces are required to be provided. The total number of parking spaces required for the overall development is 909.
The applicant has proposed to provide 909 parking spaces, which meets the requirements of the UDC. The applicant is also
proposing 486 covered stalls for the development, which also meets the requirements of the UDC.
Street buffer landscaping along W. Overland Road and S. Grand Fork Way is required as set forth in UDC Table 11-2B-3. A 35 -foot
wide buffer is required along W. Overland Road, an entryway corridor, and a 20 -foot wide buffer is proposed along S. Grand Fork Way.
Landscaping is required to be installed within both of the street buffers in accord with the standards listed in UDC 11-313-7C
with the first phase of development and prior to issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy for the site.
Parking lot landscaping is required to be provided in accord with the standards listed in UDC 11-313-8C. The landscaping appears to
comply with these standards.
A 5 -foot wide detached sidewalk is required to be constructed along W. Overland Road and S. Grand Fork Way, per UDC 11-3A-17.
Additionally, all sidewalks around buildings shall be a minimum of five feet in width. The applicant shall construct the sidewalk along W.
Overland Road with the first phase of development.
The applicant is proposing one access from S. Grand Fork Way for the development. S. Grand Fork Way will be constructed as part of
this project. The Fire Department is requiring the applicant to provide one emergency access to the site to W. Overland Road. The
applicant should coordinate the location of the Fire Department on the location of the emergency access.
The development agreement requires that the applicant provide access to parcel # S1223131250, and that this access be protected
and preserved until an alternative access route is provided. The applicant shall provide details of the access for this lot prior to
submitting a Certificate of Zoning Compliance application.
With phase one of this development, staff also recommends that the applicant dedicate to ACHD and construct an off-site portion of S.
Grand Fork Way to connect with a future phase of the Southridge Subdivision No. 3.
The conceptual elevations incorporate architectural features designed to provide articulation and variety such as windows, and
offsetting walls. The main entrances should be designed as focal points of the buildings through architectural treatments and
lighting and should provide weather protection. Roof forms should be distinctive and include variety and detail when viewed
from the street — sloped roofs shall have a significant pitch and flat roofs should include distinctive cornice treatments.
Building materials are proposed to consist of hardiboard, board and batten, lap siding, and other similar materials. Prior to submission
of a Certificate of Zoning Compliance, the applicant shall provide details of the carports.
Administrative design review is required with the Certificate of Zoning Compliance application(s) to ensure final design of
structures comply with this requirement and the design review standards and guidelines in effect at the time of development.
Building elevations were submitted for the multi -family structures (see Exhibit A.4). No building elevations were submitted for the
carports, clubhouse, or pool house.
Building materials for the multi -family structures consist primarily of lap siding, hardiboard, and asphalt shingles.
The applicant is required to obtain approval of a Certificate of Zoning Compliance application for establishment of the new use and to
ensure all site improvements comply with the provisions of the UDC and the conditions in this report prior to application for building
permits, in accord with UDC 11-5B-1.
The applicant is required to submit an application for Design Review concurrent with the Certificate of Zoning Compliance application in
accord with UDC 11-5B-8. All structures built on the site are required to comply with the City's design standards.
Written Testimony: None
Staff Recommendation: Approval w/ conditions
Notes:
Possible Motions:
Approval
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move approve File Number H-2017-0077, as presented in the staff
report for the hearing date of July 20, 2017, with the following modifications: (Add any proposed modifications to conditions)
Denial
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to deny File Number H-2017-0077, as presented during the
hearing on July 20, 2017, for the following reasons: (You should state specific reasons for denial)
Continuance
I move to continue File Number H-2017-0077 to the hearing date of (insert continued hearing date here) for the following
reason(s): (You should state specific reason(s) for continuance)
Item #4D: Knighthill Lot 3 Drive -Through - CUP (H-2017.0087)
Application(s):
➢ Conditional Use Permit
Size of property, existing zoning, and location: This site consists of 0.89 of an acre of land, zoned C -G, located at 1793 W.
Chinden Blvd.
Adjacent Land Use & Zoning:
1. North: Chinden Boulevard and vacant and developed commercial property, zoned C -C
2. East: Black Rock Coffee, zoned C -G
3. South: Lochsa Falls Subdivision, zoned R-4
4. West: Vacant commercial property and Lochsa Falls Subdivision, zoned C -N and R-4
History:
• In 2013, the property received approval of a new preliminary plat (PP -13-031) and a development agreement modification
(MDA -13-019). The approved preliminary plat consists of 5 commercial lots and 1 common lot on 9.11 acres. The DA mod
replaced the previously approved concept plan with a new one. The amended DA recorded as instrument #114014784.
• The final plat (FP -14-020) was approved in 2014.
Comprehensive Plan FLUM Designation: MU -C
Summary of Request: The applicant is proposing to construct a 4,410 square foot multi -tenant building. The conditional use permit is
for a drive-through for a restaurant that consist of 2,650 square feet of the building. All access points were approved with the
preliminary plat. Staff's analysis of the proposed development includes the internal site improvements and the site circulation of the
drive-through. The proposed site layout is consistent with the concept plan approved for the Knighthill Center. The Planning and Zoning
Commission should be aware that this will be the third drive-through in the development. Staff does not anticipate that the number of
drive-through establishments will increase the number of internal conflicts, however.
The UDC requires a conditional use permit if the drive-through establishment is within 300 feet of a residential district subject to specific
use standards listed below. Staffs analysis of the proposed development includes the internal site improvements and the site
circulation of the drive-through.
Based on the overall square footage (s.f.) of the building, approximately 4,410 s.f., a minimum of 9 vehicle parking spaces are required
to be provided on the site. A total of 39 parking stalls are proposed, which exceeds the UDC requirements.
A CZC and DES application is required to be submitted prior to issuance of building permits. The applicant must comply with the design
standards listed in UDC 11-3A-19 and the guidelines contained in the Architectural Standards Manual.
Written Testimony: None
Staff Recommendation: Approval w/conditions in Exhibit B of the staff report
Notes:
Possible Motions:
Approval
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to approve File Number H-2017-0087, as presented in the staff
report for the hearing date of July 20, 2017, with the following modifications: (Add any proposed modifications to conditions)
Denial
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move deny File Number H-2017-0087, as presented during the hearing
on July 20, 2017, for the following reasons: (You should state specific reasons for denial)
Continuance
I move to continue File Number H-2017-0087 to the hearing date of (insert continued hearing date here) for the following
reason(s): (You should state specific reason(s) for continuance)
Item #4E: Trust Storage - (H-2017-0082)
Application(s): Combined Preliminary/Final Plat and Conditional Use Permit
Size of property, existing zoning, and location: This site consists of 9.28 of acres, zoned C -C, located at the northeast corner of S.
Locust Grove Road and E. Puffin Street.
Adjacent Land Use & Zoning:
1. North: C -store, fuel facility and carwash, zoned C -C
2. South: LDS Church, zoned R-8
3. East: Multi -family residential and Mountain View High School, zoned L-0 and R-4
4. West: Assisted living facility and single family residential, zoned L-0 and R-4
History:
• In 2000, this property received annexation and zoning (AZ -00-004) approval of 16.119 acres of land with a C -N zoning district
(Ordinance No. 882).
• In 2010, a rezone (RZ-10-006) from the C -N zone to the C -C zone and a preliminary plat (PP -10-006) consisting of five (5)
building lots was approved for the Somerton Subdivision. A development agreement was required with the rezone of the
property and recorded as instrument #111037071. The subject property is a remnant parcel leftover from the approval of the
previous preliminary plat. The developer at the time failed to process any time extensions with the City and the previous plat
has since expired.
Comprehensive Plan FLUM Designation: Commercial
Summary of Request: The applicant has applied for a combined preliminary and final plat (PFP) consisting of two (2) building lots and
a conditional use permit for a self-service storage facility on 9.28 acres of land in the C -C zoning district. Lot 2, Block 1 is proposed to
develop with a self-service facility consisting of 14 storage buildings, including an attached office and the other lot is slated for
development at a future date.
The proposed storage facility is subject to specific use standards set forth in UDC 11-4-3-34. For the most part the proposed facility
complies with these standards except for the following:
1. The distance between structures shall be a minimum of twenty-five feet (25'). All of the proposed storage buildings must meet or
exceed the 25 -foot distance requirement. The drive aisles between buildings A and B and B and C do not comply with this requirement.
Further, there are areas within the portion of the storage facility located on the east side of the north/south drive aisle that also does not
comply with this standard. The site plan submitted with the CZC application must include 25 -feet of separation between all structures
per the specific use standards,
2. The storage facility shall be completely fenced, walled, or enclosed and screened from public view. The applicant for the most part
has designed the site so the perimeter storage buildings screen the facility from public view. However, there are areas along or near
Puffin Street that staff believes may be visible without having specific details. Staff recommends that the applicant fully enclose the
area along the south boundary of Puffin Street between Buildings A and C; area between Building E and F and F and G; and the entire
area adjacent to the proposed parking area H with a solid fence or wall that complements the design of the facility. Further, the
secondary access gate between Buildings D and E should be constructed of a solid material to impede visibility into the site.
3. All outdoor storage of material shall be maintained in an orderly manner so as not to create a public nuisance. Materials shall not be
stored within the required yards. Stored items shall not block sidewalks or parking areas and may not impede vehicular or pedestrian
traffic. The applicant has depicted some internal parking area within the proposed secure facility east of the north/south drive aisle. At
the public hearing staff recommends the applicant clarify for the Commission the intended purpose of this parking area.
Access: Access to this development was provided with the first phase of the previous development formerly known as Somerton
Subdivision. Reciprocal cross access is also in place to serve both lots and there is an existing a full access on to S. Locust Grove and
E. Puffin Street. Because the storage facility is bisected by a commercial drive aisle, staff recommends that the applicant
incorporates traffic calming where the two internal drive aisles intersect or provide speed bumps in the north/south drive
aisle.
Landscaping: A 25 -foot wide street buffer is required to be provided along S. Locust Grove Road (arterial) and a 10 -foot wide
landscape buffer (local) is required along E. Puffin Street, as set forth in UDC Table 11-213-3; these buffers must be on a common
lot or on a permanent dedicated buffer depicted on the plat. The required 25 -foot wide landscape buffer is not shown on the across
Lot 1, Block 1. Further, the unimproved Locust Grove right-of-way adjacent to Lot 2, Block 1 must also be landscaped in accord with
UDC 11 -3B -7C.5. Prior to signature on the final plat the applicant must revise the landscape plan to incorporate the 25 -foot wide
landscape buffer on Lott and include details for landscaping the unimproved right-of-way along the frontage of Lot 2.
Parking lot landscaping is required to be provided in accord with the standards listed in UDC 11 -3B -8C. The landscape buffer on the on
the east side of the north/south drive aisle and the north side of Building D must include 1 tree per every 35 linear feet per UDC 11 -3B -
8C. A 5 -foot wide landscape buffer and 1 tree per every 35 linear feet is required along the east side of Building C.
A 25 -foot wide landscape buffer is depicted along the east boundary in accord with UDC 11 -3B -9C; trees must touch at maturity.
Building Elevations: The proposed development is required to comply with the design standards set forth in UDC 11-3A-19 and the
ASM. The applicant has submitted renderings that demonstrate how the site will be viewed from the public streets. The primary building
materials is metal siding presented in multiple colors and variations in the pattern. As currently designed the proposed elevations do
not comply with the design standards. The ASM encourages that the building provide variations in roof and wall planes and a mix of
building materials to avoid long segments of blank walls. Further, the proposed storage facility is also adjacent to several other
commercial developments that have higher quality architecture than the proposed storage facility. Staff recommends that the applicant
use similar color palette and building materials as the adjacent commercial developments so that it complements the surrounding
developments consistent with the policies contained in the Comprehensive Plan and the ASM.
NOTE. This requirement applies to the perimeter buildings only.
Certificate of Zoning Compliance (CZC) and Design Review (DES): A CZC application is required to be submitted prior to issuance
of building permits. The applicant is required to obtain approval of a design review application for the proposed structures and site
design for the self-service storage facility. This application may be submitted concurrently with the CZC application. The applicant must
comply with the design standards listed in UDC 11-3A-19 and the guidelines contained in the ASM.
Staff recommends approval of the subject applications with the conditions listed in Exhibit B of the staff report.
Written Testimony: Lisa Baird - Email discussed the need to keep the existing commercial drive aisles in place with the development
of the storage facility.
Staff Recommendation: Approval w/conditions in Exhibit B of the staff report
Notes:
Possible Motions:
Approval
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to recommend approval File Number H-2017-0082, as presented
in the staff report for the hearing date of July 20, 2017, with the following modifications: (Add any proposed modifications to
conditions)
Denial
After considering all staff, applicant and public testimony, I move to recommend denial File Number H-2017-0082, as presented
during the hearing on July 20, 2017, for the following reasons: (You should state specific reasons for denial)
Continuance
I move to continue File Number H-2017-0082 to the hearing date of (insert continued hearing date here) for the following
reason(s): (You should state specific reason(s) for continuance)
Meridian Planning Zoning Commission Meeting
DATE: July 20, 2017 ITEM NUMBER: 3A
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MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
Yearsley: Mr. Chairman?
Fitzgerald: Mr. Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: I move we adjourn.
Cassanelli: Second.
Perreault: Second.
Fitzgerald: I have a motion and a second to adjourn. All those in favor say aye.
Yea. We are adjourned. Thank you all.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. THREE ABSENT.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:33 P.M.
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PROJECT NUMBER: H-2017-0058
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Meridian Planning Zoning Commission Meeting
DATE: July 20, 2017
ITEM TITLE: 2 1/2 Street Townhomes
ITEM NUMBER: 4B
PROJECT NUMBER: H-2017-0066
Public Hearing continued from 6/22 - Rezone of 3.07 acres of land from the C -C and R-
15 zoning district to the O -T zoning district AND Preliminary Plat approval consisting of 51
residential lots, and 7 common lots on 2.571 acres of land in the proposed O -T zoning
district by Broadbent Properties - s/o E. Franklin on the w/side of 2 1/2 Street
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DATE: July 20, 2017 ITEM NUMBER: 4C
PROJECT NUMBER: H-2017-0077
ITEM TITLE: Southridge Apartments
Public Hearing continued from 7/6 - CUP approval for 476 multi -family dwelling units on
approximately 27.73 acres in an existing R-15 zoning district by Southridge Farm, LLC -
s/side of W. Overland Rd, midway between S. Linder Rd and S. Ten Mile Rd
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Meridian Planning Zoning Commission Meeting
DATE: July 20, 2017 ITEM NUMBER: 4D
PROJECT NUMBER: H-2017-0087
ITEM TITLE: Knighthill Lot 3 Drive Through
Public Hearing - Conditional Use Permit for a drive-thru establishment within 300 feet of
another drive-thru establishment by James Wylie - SWC of Chinden Blvd and N. Linder
Road
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ITEM TITLE: Trust Storage
ITEM NUMBER: 4E
PROJECT NUMBER: H-2017-0082
Public Hearing - Combined PFP consisting of 2 building lots on 9.28 acres of land in the
C -C zoning district and CUP for a self-service storage facility in the C -C zoning district by
John Day - NEC of S. Locust Grove Rd and E. Puffin Street
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