2017 05-18Meridian Planning and Zoning Meeting May 18,
2017.
Meeting of the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission of May 18, 2017, was called
to order at 6:08 p.m. by Chairman Rhonda McCarvel.
Members Present: Chairman Rhonda McCarvel, Commissioner Gregory Wilson,
Commissioner Steven Yearsley, Commissioner Treg Bernt, Commissioner Jessica
Perreault and Commissioner Bill Cassanelli.
Members Absent: Commissioner Ryan Fitzgerald.
Others Present: Machelle Hill, Andrea Pogue, Caleb Hood, Sonya Allen, Josh Beach
and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance
__X___ Treg Bernt ___X___ Steven Yearsley
__X___ Gregory Wilson _______ Ryan Fitzgerald
__X___ Jessica Perreault ___X___ Bill Cassanelli
_______ Rhonda McCarvel - Chairman
McCarvel: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. At this time I would like to call to order
the regularly scheduled meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission on May 18th,
2017. Let's begin with roll call.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda
McCarvel: The first item on the agenda -- on the agenda is the adoption of the agenda.
We have two items this evening that will be opened for the sole purpose of continuing
these items and they are H-2017-0050, Bannock Ridge and H-2017-0052, Meridian
Meats. I will be opened solely for the purpose of continuing. So, if there is anybody
here tonight to testify on those particular applications, we will not be taking testimony
today. So, could I get a motion to adopt the agenda as amended?
Bernt: So moved.
Wilson: Second.
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McCarvel: It has been moved and second to adopt the agenda. All in favor say.
Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 3: Consent Agenda
A. Approve Minutes of May 4, 2017 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting
McCarvel: The next item on the agenda is the Consent Agenda. We have just the
approval of the minutes of the May 4th Planning and Zoning Meeting on the Consent
Agenda. So, could I get a motion to accept the Consent Agenda as presented.
Perreault: So moved.
Yearsley: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to adopt the Consent Agenda. All those in
favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
McCarvel: At this time I would like to briefly explain the public hearing process for this
evening. We will open each item individually and, then, start with the staff report. The
staff will report their findings regarding how the item adheres to our Comprehensive
Plan and Uniform Development Code with the staff's recommendations. After the staff
has made the presentation, the applicant will come forward to present their case for
approval of their application and respond to any staff comments. The applicant will
have 15 minutes to do so. After the applicant has finished we will open to public
testimony. There is a sign-up sheet in the back as you entered for anyone wishing to
testify. Any person testifying will come forward and be allowed three minutes and there
is a timer on the screen in front of you. If they are speaking for a larger group, like an
HOA, and there is a show of hands to represent that group, they will be given up to ten
minutes. After all testimony has been heard, the applicant will be given anothe r ten
minutes to have the opportunity to come back and respond if they desire. After that we
will close the public hearing and the Commissioners have the opportunity to discuss
and, hopefully, be able to make a recommendation to City Council.
Item 4: Action Items
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A. Public Hearing for Bannock Ridge (H-2017-0050) by Two C
Development, LLC Located 2940, 3101 & 3155 S. Mesa Way
1. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 9.42 Acres of Land
with an R-4 Zoning District
2. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of
Thirty One (31) Building Lots and Six (6) Common
Lots on 13.57 Acres of Land in the R-4 Zoning District
McCarvel: At this time I would like to open public hearing for Item No. H -2017-0050 in
order to be continued.
Yearsley: Madam Chair, I would move that we continue file number H -2017-0050 to
June 1st, 2017.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded and to continue item H -2017-0050. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
B. Public Hearing for Meridian Meats (H-2017-0052) by Meridian
Meat and Sausage, Inc. Located 119 E. Bower Street Public
Hearing Continued to June 1, 2017
1. Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval to Expand an
Existing Nonconforming Use (Food Products
Processing) for the Purpose of Constructing
McCarvel: Next on the agenda I would like to open the public hearing for Item No. H -
2017-0052 in order to be continued to June 1.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I move we continue H-2017-0052 to the date of June 1st, 2017.
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Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to move H -2017-0052 to June 1st. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
C. Public Hearing for Urban Air (H-2017-0046) by LimitLess
Entertainment Boise, LLC Located 3820 & 3876 E. Lanark
Street
1. Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval to Operate an
Indoor Recreation Facility in an I-L Zoning District
McCarvel: At this time I would like to open and hear public hearing for Item No. H -2017-
0046, LimitLess Entertainment. Urban Air.
Beach: Very good, Madam Chair, Members of the Commission. This is an application
for a conditional use permit. The site consists of approximately 11.13 acres of land. As
you can see here on the map in front of you, a portion of the property that this use will
encompass is not the entire property, just a portion on the -- on the eastern side,
located at 3820 and 3870 East Lanark Street. The property is surrounded by property
that is already zoned I-L or light industrial. This property was granted a preliminary plat
in 2006 and a final plat in 2010. The Comprehensive Pla n future land use map
designation for the property is industrial. The applicant is requesting approval to
operate an indoor recreation facility from an existing warehouse building. The property
is currently zoned, as I said, I-L or light industrial. Per the UDC arts, entertainment, or
recreation facility indoors, which is how we classify this, requires a conditional use
permit in the I-L zone and is subject to the specific use standards. The scope of work
includes conversion of an open warehouse and off ice space into an indoor recreation
facility. The proposed facility will be occupying approximately 42,000 square feet of the
total approximately 142,800 square foot building. As I said, a conditional use permit is
necessary to establish the use. Access to the site is taken from North Gaudians
Avenue and from East Lanark Street, designated both as -- as collector roadways.
Access to the site is consistent with the requirements set forth in the UDC. No other
access points are proposed or approved with this application. Per the UDC all industrial
districts require one space for every 2,000 square feet of gross floor area. The site is
currently developed with a -- as I said, 142,800 square foot warehouse building, of
which 42,000 square feet is proposed for the use. Based on the existing and planned
square footage, the site must provide a minimum of 21 parking stalls. The submitted
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site provides a total of 91 parking stalls. So, that would be -- following my mouse here
-- and I have a -- a better plan here. So, lining up the parking just around their building
there is approximately 91 parking stalls for the use. In addition, the UDC also requires
that bicycle parking be installed on site and that is one bicycle parking space for every
25 proposed vehicle stalls. So, the applicant is required to install four bicycle parking
stalls as part of this use. The applicant has indicated that the hours of operation for the
business will be Monday through Thursday, 3:00 to 8:00 p.m. Friday and Saturday ,
10:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. and Sunday, 10:00 am to 8:00 p.m. The hours of operation
are mostly in the evenings and weekends and will not overlap -- only overlap for two
hours with the other businesses located on the property. The applicant has indicated
that the two adjacent businesses are unmanned warehouses, so parking for the facility
should not be an issue. The purpose of a certificate of zoning compliance -- the
applicant is also -- let me back up. The applicant is also required to apply for and
receive certificate of zoning compliance approval for the site to establish the use. With
that staff did not receive any comments and we are recommending approval of the
application.
McCarvel: Okay. Thank you. Would the applicant like to come forward?
Brown: For the record, Kent Brown. 3161 East Springwood, Meridian, Idaho. As Josh
has explained, we feel that this is a good fit for our facility and what we are trying to
accomplish there. Having those two unmanned warehouses adjacent to us even
provides more of that building with -- where we are not conflicting with those other uses
and, then, our evening and weekend hours also probably isn't going to conflict with
anybody either. My client is here from Dallas, Texas, and is here to explain if you have
questions about the particular uses and the activities that go on inside, if you care to
have that presentation.
McCarvel: Sure.
Brown: Okay. Thank you.
Jagannathan: Good evening. Thanks for having me. My name is Suraj Jagannathan
and I'm from Dallas, Texas. The concept that I am bringing to Meridian -Boise-Nampa
market is called Urban Air Adventure Park. Not necessarily a trampoline park, but it is
an indoor trampoline facility with additional items -- additional attractions that will
encompass all of the main event, a Dave and Buster's type environment. Major course
is rock climbing, laser tag, mini golf, arcade and most importantly trampolines and we
chose to do this, because as a father of two girls that are three and a half ye ars old, I
understand the -- and a former athlete myself, I understand the importance of taking
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your kids someplace and having an exercising, fulfilling time just to get your kids out
and do something, so you can sit back and relax and we think this -- this concept here
will -- is going to bring something phenomenal to the market that doesn't fully
encompass everything. I know there are some competitors in Jump Time and Circus
Tricks that have portions of all of this, but not one facility that encompasses everything
and with the market here of approximately 102,000 kids within the entire MSA within --
you guys know better than me -- but at 676 K, NSA population, I think that the
percentages work out very well to have this. I have actually -- I have a 3D pdf if you
would like to look at what we look to have inside the facility. It doesn't include the party
rooms or private rooms that we will have. It's just some of the attractions that we are
going to have in there, but -- so, as you can see to the right where the young kid is,
that's going to be the ropes course. I think one of your other locations here has that. To
the left is the ninja warrior course, which is very popular amongst all the kids these days
and especially -- I'm sure you guys have seen the warrior courses on television as well.
Here we have all the trampolines set up. To the far left we have a battle beam area for
jousting. And, then, there is another visual of the warrior course. Basketball dunk. To
the left or middle corner is a drop zone, jumping off a trampoline into a parachute
dropping area. This is an aerial view of everything. If you look to the right there is a --
bottom right. That is a tubes course. It's going to be a five story tubes course that
allows kids ages from three to seven years old to just climb up and down tubes, slide
down. From that as well, if you look at the orange -- I guess horseshoe type looking at
-- that is going to be -- actually a skyrider. So, you will be strapped in and zip lining all
the way through. And below we will have party tables, so you and your friends are --
specifically any of you guys and your friends that are sitting in the party play tables, they
-- they will see these sky zip lining across the entire -- or half of the warehouse there.
So, it's pretty cool. What is it? If you look at the top right of the facility it's a -- there is
rock climbing. There is a volcano where you climb up the volcano and slide down.
What isn't pictured -- if you look further to the right in the rooms -- you can't see it, but
we are going to have black light laser tag and black light mini golf as well. The
dodgeball court. I'm sure you guys -- many of you would love to go against your kids in
this one. So, please, feel free to -- another angle of the tubes course. That is the end
of that. Any questions, please?
McCarvel: Any questions from the Commissioners?
Bernt: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Bernt.
Bernt: Are you going to be doing any renovations to the outside of the building?
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Jagannathan: No, sir. Nothing. The only thing we will put up on the outside is an
Urban Air logo and that is -- we will not be painting or doing anything else.
Bernt: Is it currently -- what is this currently -- what does this building currently look like
on the outside?
Jagannathan: It's a clean warehouse with no windows. The windows are just the -- the
doors. It's the old Scentsy building, if you --
Bernt: Oh, yeah.
McCarvel: Anybody else?
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes, Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: What -- especially I guess on the weekends, but also on the week days.
What kind of kind -- what kind of traffic counts kind of numbers do you anticipate?
Jagannathan: Yeah. That's a very good question. I'm actually working with a -- the
highway district right now and determining that, but during the week, because we will
only be open 3:00 to 8:00 p.m., those traffic counts we expect to be very low. We
expect our -- our peak hours on the weekends, on Saturdays and Sundays, to be
between 11:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. As we -- as all the past Urban Airs across the U.S.,
majority of the birthday parties are during that time. So, from a traffic count perspective
-- I apologize, I don't want to mislead you or give you incorrect information and I don't
have that with me, so --
Cassanelli: Not necessarily traffic counts, but I guess more attendance, if you will. You
know, how many people do you typically -- I mean what's an average Saturday going
through the -- you know, coming through the doors?
Jagannathan: So, the average -- I have put this number at the -- the average Urban Air
has 10,000 customers a month. That puts it at -- if you use eight Saturdays you're
looking at a little over -- from -- in an eight hour day you need about 800 customers --
883 customers an hour. So, we multiple thousands -- two to three thousand on a
Saturday and on a Sunday as well and because the birthday parties are two hours at a
time, all of that -- and you should do -- we are actually going to be able to have about 15
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birthday parties at once. That's going to put a bulk -- a rush coming in at 1:00 and, then,
two hours later another rush coming in. Two hours later another rush coming in. So,
they are spread out like that.
Cassanelli: Thank you.
McCarvel: Anybody else? All right. Thank you.
Jagannathan: Thank you.
McCarvel: At this time we would open to public testimony. I assume, Kent, you have
already -- we can scratch you off. All right. Anybody else wishing to testify on this
issue? Okay. So, at this time if there is no other questions by the Commissioners, we
will close the public hearing. So, could I get a motion to close the public hearing, Item
No. H-2017-0046.
Bernt: So moved.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No. H-
2017-0046. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
McCarvel: Any thoughts on this fun place, other than you would want to be a kid now?
Perreault: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes.
Perreault: I have a question for staff. Should the Commission be concerned that there
is a similar facility that's slated or expected to be going in down the road on Franklin
within a mile or two? Is that any concern of ours? Or we are just considering
unconditional use and --
Beach: You got it. No.
Perreault: No? Okay.
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McCarvel: Okay.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes. Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: Just comments. Exactly, I'd like to be a kid again. Wish this was around.
For staff is there -- is the remainder of that building -- it said it was unmanned. Does
that mean there is no current uses there or are they occupied?
Beach: So, to answer your question, yeah, there are several warehouses just to the
west of this building, but they are unmanned warehouses and there is no employees
there.
Cassanelli: Okay.
Beach: So, that's what they mean by unmanned. There is just several users further
down in the building, but the several tenants just next door are -- are just warehouses.
Bernt: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes.
Bernt: I believe that there is a Rhino Rush right down there.
Beach: Yes.
Bernt: I believe that's manned. And, then, I believe that -- I believe that the Boise Slam
basketball club is right there and it's mostly evenings and weekends. So, I think there
might be a hair more traffic than now then -- as far as parking lots are concerned, there
will be a little more, you know, people there than what we are talking about. I don't think
a lot, but there is -- I know when Slam is having events there -- my kids play Slam --
there is -- the whole front of that area is all parking -- you know, all of those parking lots
are full, so just food for thought.
McCarvel: Yeah.
Cassanelli: That's my -- my one concern on that is it meets the minimum requirements,
obviously, on the parking, but -- but that's -- that's what I was kind of alluding to with my
questions in terms of the number of kids and I know from other places like this a
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majority of the kids are just dropped off , parents -- they drop off and run, but -- and there
is a lot to say if they are -- we are talking, you know, a thousand or more people through
on a -- on a Saturday -- on a busy Saturday with kids -- you know, the road out front -- is
that Lanark? Is that the name of that road out front? Will that -- can that be parked
upon and are there -- are there overflow parking areas around?
Wilson: I mean they have exceeded -- I mean they are exceeding the amount of stalls
by a significant number.
McCarvel: Yes.
Wilson: And that's not a -- I mean that's -- I don't know where you guys -- if you guys
know where that's at. I mean that's kind of off the beaten path a little bit, so --
Cassanelli: Yeah.
Wilson: So, I don't -- that's just something -- I will just comment on it. I'm not concerned
about that. I think they exceed the parking list -- or the number and it's a little off the
beaten path, so it's not going to be a -- you know, a challenge.
Beach: So, quickly if I could. Yeah. So, Lanark is a public road. It does appear to be
wide enough -- and I don't have the exact width of the road, but it is a public road. The
-- yeah. So, let me -- let me show you this -- pardon me while I switch my map here
again. So, the site, as you can see, is -- I believe it's this entire portion here. There is
parking all the way around the back. As I mentioned, there is approximately 91 parking
spaces. So, for an industrial user the code requires one parking space for every 200 --
or 2,000 square feet. They are not an industrial user. So, that in this case it would be
commercial, which requires one space for every 500 square feet and doing the math of
their 42,000 square feet, they would be required to have 84 parking stalls and they have
91. So, they meet that requirement with a few extra. And keep in mind there is a large
number of parking stalls on the rear side of the building as well. I don't know that a
majority of those at Boise Slam will be parking in these areas back here to walk all the
way around the building to get -- to get where they are going. So, I think the site is
adequately parked.
McCarvel: Yeah. From my own sense, I think most of your busy time is going to be
even when -- you know, even the unmanned warehouse portion is not in use and so I
think there is plenty of space for overflow. I think it's a great use for a big empty
building. Anyone else? Commissioners?
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Wilson: I think he might --
McCarvel: Your mic. There you go.
Hood: The applicant came up and I just want to share a couple thoughts. It seems like
you moved on from parking. But, obviously, they don't want to have a parking problem
either. They did say that if -- if there is an issue, there is an ability to stripe out some
more parking on the north side of the building. You can kind of see there, it's -- there is
some area -- yeah, kind of in that or even on the back side of the -- the building itself
where you could stripe it for more parking if it does become a problem and they also
confirmed parking is allowed on Lanark. So, it's not prohibited on -- on Lanark. So,
there is some overflow there as well.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Mr. Wilson.
Wilson: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to approve
file number H-2017-0046 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of May
18th, 2017.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2017-0046. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
D. Public Hearing for Franklin Daycare (H-2017-0047) by Donna
Franklin Located 4657 N. Price Avenue
1. Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval of a Daycare
Group for up to Twelve (12) Children in an R-8 Zoning
District
McCarvel: Okay. Moving on. At this time we would like to open public hearing for Item
No. H-2017-0047 for Donna Franklin and we will begin with the staff report.
Beach: Pardon me. This is as well an application for a conditional use permit. This site
consists of approximately 0.14 of an acre of land, which is zoned R-8. It's located at
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4657 North Price Avenue. The property is developed with a single family detached
home. As I said zoned R-8. In 2005 the property was annexed and zoned and granted
a preliminary plat for the Amber -- as part of the Amber Creek Subdivision. In 2014 the
property was granted final plat approval. The Comprehensive Plan future land use map
designation for the property is medium density residential. The request in this case is
for a conditional use permit to operate what we call a day care group in a 2,620 square
foot home for up to 12 children. The applicant has indicated that she will be using
approximately 1,066 square feet of the home for her daycare. The UDC allows for up to
six children in what we call a daycare family, which requires an accessory use permit in
the R-8 zoning district and to allow for a 12 children in a -- again, what we call a daycare
group, the R-8 zoning district requires a conditional use permit. One of the main
reasons for this distinction is the increased numb er of vehicle trips for the daycare
group. There are specific use standards listed in the UDC that apply to daycare
facilities. I can go through those quickly, but the type of daycare facility, the total
number of children at the facility at one time , including the operators' children, is a
determining factor. In this case the applicant is requesting up to 12 children. On-site
vehicle pick up, parking, and turnaround areas shall be provided to ensure safe
discharge and pick up of clients. In this case you can see the applicant has a three car
garage, as well as three parking stalls in front and there is also the ability to have some
drop off, pick up in front of the home on a public road. The decision-making body shall
specify the maximum number of allowable clients and hours of operation as conditions
of approval. So, there is the ability to reduce those if the Commission so desires. Due
to the fact that the proposed daycare center is within an existing building and no site or
exterior building modifications are proposed, a certificate of zoning compliance
application will not be required. Staff is recommending approval of the application. I did
receive a written testimony from Leslie Halverson from the HOA regarding some fencing
that the applicant is proposing to change as part of the -- part of the application. Again,
staff is recommending approval and I will the stand for any questions you have.
McCarvel: Any questions for staff? Okay. Would the applicant like to come forward?
As you approach the mic, please, state your name and address for the record.
Franklin: My name is Donna Franklin. Address is 4657 North Price Avenue in Meridian.
83646. And I'm requesting the conditional use permit for a daycare up to 12 children.
The fence is being worked on in the morning, so they are raising the fence from four
foot to six foot, which is required by the City of Meridian and I think that was the main
concern that I read on the staff meeting notes. So, that is being taken care of tomorrow.
McCarvel: Okay. Any questions for the applicant?
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Perreault: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Perrault.
Perrault: Do you have an idea of the ages that you will have in the home ? How many
infants? How many toddlers?
Franklin: I typically -- I did daycare in California and had up to 14 and, typically, I don't
take more than two or three infants. The rest are two to four years old. I don't take any
school age, kindergarten. So, up to about age five, depending on when the kids start
kindergarten.
Perrault: And you don't have concerns about having up to 14 people in a thousand
square foot space?
Franklin: No. The space here is bigger than where I was in California and I had up to
14. Here it's only 12 that's allowed through the health department and they have
already been out and inspected and approved everything. So, this is the final and, then,
next week the fire inspector will come out and check and he's already said that
everything should be fine, because if you go off of his recommendations, dividing the 35
into the 1,066 square foot, that would allow me over 30 kids, which I would never do,
but that's what the fire inspector on their forms -- is how they evaluate how many that
you can have. So, I won't do any more than 12, if that, but that's the way they break it
down with the health department and state -- excuse me -- state of Idaho.
Perreault: Thank you.
McCarvel: Any other questions?
Cassanelli: Question, Madam Chair.
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: Do you have set hours at this point in time?
Franklin: It will be 7:30 to 5:30, Monday through Friday, and the holidays will be closed.
McCarvel: Okay. Thank you.
Franklin: Thank you.
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McCarvel: Okay. So, at this time could I get a motion to close the public hearing for --
oh, sorry. Thank you. Jumped ahead. We will take public testimony. I have two
people signed up. Susan Matlock.
Matlock: Yes. I am a neighbor directly --
McCarvel: Please state your name and address for the record.
Matlock: Oh, I'm sorry. Susan Matlock. 4672 North Price Avenue. I'm almost directly
across from the proposed daycare and I'm a yard fanatic and I'm out all the time and it
has been so quiet and drop off and pick up -- I realized she has less right now, but it's
been very orderly. I don't have a problem with it at all.
McCarvel: Okay.
Matlock: Thank you.
McCarvel: Thank you. And Tony Franklin. You're good? Okay. Anyone else wishing
to testify on this issue? Okay. Okay. Would the applicant like to come forward again
and address any issues that were raised ? Thank you. Okay. So, at this time could I
get a motion to close the public hearing for Item No. H-2017-0047.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: I move we close the public hearing for item H-2017-0046.
Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close the public hearing for Item No. H-
2017-0047. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
McCarvel: Comments? Concerns? Discussion?
Wilson: Madam Chair?
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McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I think it's pretty straight forward. I mean we have done a couple of these the
past year or so. I think it's straight forward and I think the neighbor preempted any
questions we might have in terms of pick up and whether that's, you know, loud or
whether it's busy or whether -- I mean I just think everything got satisfied at least for me
and I will be supporting it.
McCarvel: Okay. Yeah. I think with the parking to be consistent with what we have
done in the past, this does support the parking spaces that we had somewhat of an
issue with in the past and it seems to be running efficiently so far. Anybody else?
Comments? Okay.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to approve
file number H-2017-0047 as presented in the staff report for the hearing date of May
18th, 2017.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2017-0047. All
those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
E. Public Hearing for My First Steps Daycare (H-2017-0054) by
Darya Krautsova Located 3545 S. Pompei
1. Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval for a Group
Daycare for up to Twelve (12) Children on 0.15 of an
Acre in an R-8 Zoning District
McCarvel: Okay. At this time we will move forward and I'd like to open the public
hearing for Item No. H-2017-0054, My First Steps, and we will begin with the staff
report.
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Allen: Thank you, Chairman, Commissioners. The next application before you is a
request for a conditional use permit. This site consists of .15 of an acre of land, zoned
R-8, located at 3545 South Pompei Avenue. This site is surrounded by existing
residential properties and vacant and undeveloped land zoned R-8. This property is
platted as Lot 3, Block 11, of Tuscany Village Subdivision No. 2. The Comprehensive
Plan future land use map designation is medium density residential. The applicant
requests approval of a conditional use permit for a group daycare for up to 12 children
between the ages of six weeks to six years old in the R-8 zoning district. The home
consists of 1,731 square feet and has a three car garage with a concrete parking pad in
front of the garage for off-street parking for clients. The rear yard play area is fenced
with a six foot tall vinyl fence. The proposed hours of operation are from 6:30 a.m. to
6:30 p.m. The applicant is required to comply with the specific use standards for
daycare facilities, which include, but are not limited to on-site vehicle pickup, parking
and turnaround areas. Hours of operation not exceeding 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
Provision of a six foot tall, nonscalable fence around the play area and background
check and Fire Department inspection. Staff has verified that the applicant complies
with the required standards for a daycare facility. Written testimony has been received
from Darya Krautsova, the applicant. She is in agreement with the staff report. And
staff is recommending approval with the conditions in Exhibit B of the staff report. Staff
will stand for any questions.
McCarvel: Any questions for staff?
Yearsley: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: I don't have any questions, but I do want to state -- I am currently the
president of the Tuscany Homeowners Association, but I do not feel that this application
causes a conflict of interest, so I just wanted to at least disclose that before we move
forward.
McCarvel: Okay.
Yearsley: Thank you.
McCarvel: Thank you. Any other questions? Would the applicant like to come
forward? And as you approach the mic, please, state your name and address for the
record.
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Krautsova: My name is Darya Krautsova. I'm located at 3545 South Pompei and I
agree with the staff recommendations. I can answer any questions if you have any.
McCarvel: I would -- are you currently running a small -- do you currently have less
than six?
Krautsova: I have six right now.
McCarvel: Okay. And you're wanting to move up to --
Krautsova: Twelve.
McCarvel: All the way up to 12?
Krautsova: Uh-huh.
McCarvel: And that's been working well for you so far?
Krautsova: Yes, it has.
McCarvel: Okay. Any other questions? Okay. All right. Thank you. I don't have
anybody on the sign-up sheet for this application, but is there anybody in the audience
that wishes to testify? Okay. So, at this time could I get a motion to close the public
hearing for Item No. H-2017-0054, My First Steps?
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: I move we close H-2017-0054.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close Item No. H-2017-0054. All those
in favor say aye. Oppose? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
McCarvel: Any comments from the Commissioners? Thoughts? Pretty straight
forward.
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Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: I have a question for staff. What were the conditions of Exhibit B? I do not
have a staff report.
Allen: Chairman, Commissioner Cassanelli -- clerk? You don't have a copy of the staff
report at all?
Cassanelli: Not with those exhibits.
Allen: Okay. Hang on. Let me -- if you have a copy of the staff report, it's going to be
right after the Exhibit A with a vicinity map in it. It's just basically containing the specific
use standards that the applicant needs to comply with the staff has verified that they are
in compliance with.
McCarvel: Okay.
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Wilson: After -- I hope I'm not going too quickly with this. After considering all staff,
applicant, and public testimony, I move to approve file number H-2017-0054 as
presented in the staff report for the hearing date of May 18th, 2017.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: Okay. It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2017-0054.
All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Congratulations.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
F. Public Hearing for Geddes Subdivision (H-2017-0041) by
Schultz Development Located Southeast of the W. Ustick Road
and N. Black Cat Road Intersection
1. Request: Annexation and Zoning of 2.08 Acres of Land
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with an R-8 Zoning District
2. Request: Preliminary Plat Approval Consisting of Ten
(10) Building Lots and Four (4) Common Lots on 2.08
Acres of Land in an R-8 Zoning District
McCarvel: Okay. So, at this time we'd like to open public hearing for Item No. H-2017-
0041, Geddes Subdivision, and we will open with the staff report.
Allen: Thank you, Chairman, Commissioners. The next application before you is a
request for annexation and zoning and a preliminary plat . This site consists of 2.08
acres of land, is currently zoned RUT in Ada county and is located off of the southeast
corner of North Black Cat and West Ustick Roads. Adjacent land use and zoning. To
the north are rural and urban single family residential properties in Klamath Basin
Subdivision, zoned RUT in Ada county and R-4. To the east are single family
residential properties in Statin Park Subdivision, zoned R-4. To the south are single
family residential properties in Ashford Greens and Lake at Cherry Lane Subdivision
No. 9, zoned R-4. And to the west are rural residential property, zoned RUT in Ada
county. The Comprehensive Plan future land use map designation is low density
residential. The applicant is requesting approval of annexation and zoning of 2.8 acres
of land with an R-8 zoning district. A step up in density is requested from the low
density residential, which is three or fewer units per acre, to the medium density
residential, which is three to eight units per acre, as allowed in the Comprehensive Plan
without an amendment to the future land use map, with Council approval. A preliminary
plat is proposed consisting of ten single family residential building lots and four common
lots on 2.08 acres of land in the proposed R-8 zoning district. The gross density of the
proposed subdivision is 4.8 dwelling units per acre, with a net density of 8.9 units per
acre, which is consistent with the requested step up in density, if approved. The
minimum property size is 4,034 square feet, with an average lot size of 4,960 square
feet. Access is proposed via the extension of a local street, North Geddes Avenue,
from the south. A stub street is proposed to the west for future extension and
interconnectivity. Because a roundabout is planned at the Black Cat-Ustick intersection,
staff was concerned about how the properties to the north and west could redevelop in
the future and requested the applicant submit a concept plan addressing this, which he
did, and I will just flip back here to the vicinity map for a minute here , so if you can see
it, the intersection here, this is where the roundabout is planned and, then, the applicant
submitted this concept plan showing how that property could redevelop possibly in the
future with an access from the proposed subdivision and this does meet -- appear to
meet UDC standards and Fire Department code. A common driveway is proposed for
access to the three homes at the southeast corner of the development . The applicant is
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proposing .11 of an acre of common area adjacent to the cul-de-sac at the northeast
corner of the site along the Eight Mile Lateral, which runs along the east boundary of the
site. The unified development code does not require qualified open space and site
amenities to be provided for development that is below five acres in size. However,
because the applicant is requesting approval of a step up in density, staff recommends
a qualifying site amenity, such as a picnic area with tables, benches and a shade
structure or other qualified amenity is provided as a provision of the development
agreement. The applicant also requests Council approval of a waiver to UDC 11-3A-6,
to leave the Eight Mile Lateral open and not pipe it as required by the UDC due to its
large capacity. Conceptual elevations were submitted as shown for future homes within
this development. Building materials consist of horizontal and vertical siding with stone
veneer accents. Written testimony has been received from Matt Schultz, the applicant's
representative. He is in agreement with the staff report. Staff is recommending
approval with the conditions in the report contingent upon Council's approval of a step
up in density as requested. Staff will stand for questions.
McCarvel: Any questions?
Yearsley: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: Sonya, did parks and rec comment on any pathways proposed or is that kind
of already landlocked to that area?
Allen: Chairman, Commissioner, there are no pathways required along the Eight Mile
Lateral in this area.
Yearsley: All right. Thank you.
McCarvel: Okay. Any other questions for staff? Would the applicant like to come
forward? Please state your name and address for the record.
Schultz: Yes. Good evening, Madam Chair, Commissioners. Matt Schultz. 8421
South Ten Mile in Meridian. Thanks for having me tonight. Kind of a little small piece.
Two acres. It's got a little bit of an odd shape to it. But I think it kind of lays out nicely
for -- for a townhome product that Robert Campbell, the owner, who is also a builder, is
doing. He has done another one -- it's about a mile south of here, almost do south,
called Reardon Sub on the south side of Cherry Lane between Ten Mile and Black Cat.
We have ten lots. Nice single -- single story townhomes. Not two story. Which is
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important. It's why it felt real comfortable for me to represent it that it was a single story
and that's something that we are going to subject yourself to through a development
agreement with Council is single story, 1,500 square foot minimum. These elevations
that you see -- these are actual pictures of stuff that's for sale or sold right now as we
speak, in between that 250 and 300 thousand dollar range for a 1,500 square foot,
2,000 square foot home and we are willing to subject ourselves to a 1,500 square foot
minimum home. There is no minimums in an R-8. There is a 1,400 square foot
minimum in an R-4 by code, but we are willing to, you know, put that into a development
agreement for 1,500. So, that's a nice -- nice little project. About half of it turned out to
be road, because it's just so odd shaped and all the roads will be on-street parking.
There is no parking limitation, as well as full turnaround. So, it's all to code. We are not
asking for any variances. We are asking for a waiver to -- to the city code that we not
tile the Eight Mile Lateral, because it would the equivalent of maybe a 48 inch plus and
Council grants those for 30 to 36 inch all the time. Everybody else south of us hasn't
tiled it. It looks like a nice, safe, wide ditch bank there. I walked it today before the
hearing just to make sure I kind of get a good feel for the site. It's got a good access. It
has sewer and water right there. The project to the south of us that was put in 20 years
ago -- 17 to 20 years ago, is kind of the age -- if you look at the plats that abut to us,
bigger lots. That's what they did 17 to 20 years ago. It was all R-4, 8,000 square foot
minimum. Just what we did back then. I just think this is a good little -- we think we will
probably get a lot of buyers -- maybe even from the subdivision next to us that want to
down size now that they are empty nesters and want a fully maintained yard, which will
be part of the package to -- part of the HOA dues will come -- the lawn maintenance will
come with it. It's really kind of marketing towards the 55 and over, although we are not
-- I don't think we are going to -- you know, write in the CC&Rs you have to be 55 or
over, but that's really who the market is on this, those people that want a single story,
nice, upper end, nicely done inside and out house that Robert Campbell is going to do
on this one, so -- but we do agree with staff conditions. All of them. The amenity was
something we were going to do anyways. It wasn't required, so we didn't worry about it.
We have actually had our landscape architect draw up -- if you can go back, Sonya, to
that color of rendering, please. Where those three trees are shown, we have put a
shade shelter, sitting area amenity, something nice. We are not -- we don't have the
exact details yet, but we will -- we will run those by planning staff and -- that's something
we were going to do anyways, we just -- so, that's why we are okay with the conditions
of approval. Maybe put that in there that staff came up with. And I did do a layout, even
though -- you know, it's -- we have access. We are providing sewer stub, water stub.
We are providing access -- and it actually kind of lays out kind of nice -- nice and
efficient. About the same density, using the same size lots we did. There is about 20
more lots that could go in there. So, that would meet the fire code. There is emergency
access I provided anyways. If somebody wanted an emergency access they could. But
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if you plot a circle on their equal to like the Eagle -- Eagle and Amity roundabout, let's
say, it doesn't even really -- almost hardly even touch the -- the green triangle in the
corner there. It's deceiving. You know, you think it would just come way out and take
out some lots even, maybe, the roundabout, but it's deceiving how -- how small the
footprint that round about really does have if you plot it on that corner from the center of
the -- from the top left-hand corner of the page there. So, it doesn't really come into
play, really, with this layout. Other than you can't take any access between Moon Lake,
which is the road just to the south of us, and Ustick Road. And that's the main concern
is they are not going to have any access, because ACHD doesn't want any access with
a roundabout right there. That's why we had to show how that would work not taking
access out. You have emergency access, but it's not full vehicular access, so -- I guess
with that we will stand for any questions and we agree with -- with all staff conditions.
Thanks.
McCarvel: Any questions for the applicant?
Perreault: Yes, Madam Chair.
McCarvel: Commissioner Perreault.
Perreault: I'm sorry, did you say that you're anticipating putting townhomes there?
Schultz: They are detached --
Perreault: The renderings show the single family. They are detached single family.
Schultz: I'm sorry. I used that term a little loosely. I'm sorry. But they are not attached.
They will be single --
Perreault: Yeah. They will be single family --
Schultz: Single family detached, five foot side yard setbacks --
Perreault: Okay.
Schultz: -- 12 foot rear, 20 foot in the front to the garage. The R-8 allows a ten foot
setback that's non-garage space, which this -- if you look at those elevations, they have
a living space that pops out in front of the garage to get that square footage. So, yeah,
I'm sorry. My bad.
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Yearsley: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: So, when you said you laid out the Eagle and Amity intersection, did you
assume the four lane -- or the two lane segment or just a single line segment?
Schultz: I just took a diameter on the Eagle-Amity one, which is a single lane, I believe,
and, then, added -- it was like a 200 foot -- or 150 foot radius or something. It was
pretty big.
Yearsley: Okay.
Schultz: You know. It doesn't -- just doesn't come into play. I thought it would. I
thought it would come into play, but it really doesn't come into play very much.
Yearsley: Okay.
Schultz: Geometrically at least.
Yearsley: Thank you.
McCarvel: Any other questions for the applicant? Okay.
Schultz: Thanks.
McCarvel: At the time we will begin with public testimony. Start with the sign-up sheet.
We have Robert Campbell. Do you wish to testify? Okay. I guess the only one that
really marked that they wanted to testify was Mike Sorensen. And, please, state your
name and address for the record.
Sorensen: Yes. My name is Mike Sorensen . 10334 West Milclay. I owned the two
acres a year ago and sold it to Mr. Campbell. I guess I'm at a little loss of words,
because I wasn't even sure about the roundabout. Actually, my wife and I still own the
three acres just north of there. So, I'm not sure how that's going to affect -- affect our
home and where we live there, because the home sits right there in the corner pretty
much where the green, so I'm not even sure how that roundabout is going to -- going to
affect us. I guess my major consideration today was two points. Number one, Mr.
Campbell and the developer, again, is showing a road -- my home on three acres, it was
going to be landlocked I was going to ask the planning and zoning for consideration of
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stubbing a road to my place, which would be on the -- the north side of this
development. Again, there is a road stubbed in. He is planning on stubbing a road into
the west side of the development through my neighbor Earl Rhodes. You'd have to
know Earl Rhodes. He -- that road will not go through until Earl dies, which could be 20
to 30 years. And, again, that's going to leave me someone -- somewhat landlocked. I
don't assume with a roundabout in -- again, the planning and zoning would not, I'm sure,
allow another feeder road coming off Black Cat to service a development if -- if I wanted
to with my home on the three acres, there, again, just north of this development. So, I
guess that was my concern is -- is a road being stubbed into my place. It will be pretty
much landlocked. I guess I would -- it would be a home and a shop on three acres,
because, again, there really is no other avenue. He shows an avenue through --
through a neighbor's place, but, again, like I said, that neighbor is not going to develop
that or allow anything in there. I have been trying to buy that piece of property from him
for 25 years or have him buy mine for 25 years and it's sort of been a futile exchange,
so -- so, that would be my -- my first concern is, number one, possibly having a road
stubbed in. Secondly, where the utilities are, first, I have a water -- a ditch where I get
water, which is on the north side of this two acres. A few years ago when a
development was done my water rights were cut off for about a year and a half . I just
wanted to make sure that they continue to deliver water. It would be through that two
acres and coming to my place and, then, the second thing, which I don't know about, I
guess what I'm asking for is a utility easement also. I have gas running from where the
gas is stubbed in there to Geddes, along the west side of the two acres. If this makes
sense. To my land. Right there were Geddes is stubbed in, that's where all the utilities
are and about 15 years ago I had a gas line run across the north side of his two acres
and into my three acres and shop and home. We don't have gas running down Black
Cat, so I asked for -- for a line to be run from Geddes to my place and, again, it runs
across the -- the west end of these two acres and I would ask for -- I guess a utility
easement if that's available, because I have no other way to heat my home.
McCarvel: Thank you. Anyone else wishing to testify on this application? Would the
applicant like to come back forward? Do we have any answers for Mr. Sorenson?
Schultz: Maybe. Commissioner -- Madam Chairman and Commissioners, I -- I will start
with the easy ones first. The irrigation ditch -- there is a ditch that runs parallel to the
Eight Mile Lateral, just kind of on the edge of our common -- common lots back there --
Perreault: Could you speak into the microphone.
Schultz: Yeah. Our preliminary plat shows piping. So, we are going to pipe that and
not alter any deliveries to him. We are not going to mess with his irrigation. We never
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do that intentionally, you know. So, we will -- we will make sure that it keeps on flowing
perfectly. The -- the gas I don't think is a problem. Obviously, we could provide a
corridor along a side lot line. There is a public utility easement along all side lot lines. If
it's used and we would just, obviously, ask him to -- you know, if there is any cost to
relocate and that, you know, to be his as far as that goes. In fact, if it's on our property,
is there an easement for it now, I don't know. You know, I haven't -- I don't know if it's
on our property or on his -- I -- I don't know of one, but I haven't done a deep title search
either to see if there is an actual easement across our property right now for that
existing facility, that may or may not be there. I am just not aware. But we are wanting
to cooperate on that for sure. If he currently has a gas line across our property. The
last one, which is the more difficult one, is the -- the idea of us providing a stub street to
the north and to the west at the same time, I guess. Because if we do it to him, then,
we have to do it to the other guy and which one do you provide it to? Is it incumbent
upon us to -- to make sure he can develop tomorrow, because if we don't develop he
really can't develop. So, the fact that we are developing, do we -- do we need to
provide that for him. It's kind of a unique location of properties. I'm not sure if I'm
responsible to provide for his efficient development, other than to provide a good stub
and utility stub to our property boundary, which we are doing. One of our property
boundaries. So, I will leave that up to you for your recommendation as to the politics
between neighbors as to who wants to buy who and one person not agreeing to sell and
development and the other one wants to -- it's kind of out of our control, you know, is
what I'm saying. So, we just ask that you approve it as submitted and -- or at least
provide a positive recommendation to Council.
McCarvel: I have a question. Do we -- Sonya, do we have a map that shows -- I mean
where his current access was -- Mr. Sorenson's current access is? A Google --
Allen: I will pull one up. Yeah.
McCarvel: Because I'm assuming we are talking about this white blob here. The RUT.
Yearsley: Madam Chair, while she's pulling that up -- it's my understanding that ACHD
will not cut off his current access currently --
McCarvel: Yeah.
Yearsley: -- the way it is, but if he wanted to develop they probably would not give him
access to his site off of Black Cat for a development. Is --
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McCarvel: Right. And that's what -- I just want to see -- he's not -- not currently
landlocked, it's just going forward if he were to develop. So, that's really not in this
discussion I don't think.
Hood: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Yes.
Hood: Give Sonya another minute, if you don't mind --
McCarvel: Yes.
Hood: -- while she pulls that up. So, like we just talked about it -- I mean it's not a
landlocked property and ACHD would have to give them access to Black Cat, because
there isn't any other place and -- and so both today and in the future if he did come in
with a development application, they would still have to grant him an access to the
public street. Now, what we could do is condition that, though, that is an interim access
and once the two properties to the south -- similar to what Mr. Schultz developed -- you
know, when that eventually develops out, then, that road goes away. But, you know, we
would probably struggle as a city to say is this in the best interest of the city to allow a
development there with another road, even if its interim, to Black Cat located that close
to the intersection.
McCarvel: Yeah.
Hood: But, again, they would -- ACHD would have to grant them access, because that's
the only place to the public roadway network, so -- I mean I will just -- Sonya isn't quite
there yet. Just looking at -- and I appreciate the -- the neighbor to the north being here
and the comment, but, really, having a stub -- having Geddes due to north is going to be
very inefficient for the development of his property. You're going to be running that road
along with the canal and you can't even put a buildable lot in there until you get about
halfway through that property and, then, you're only going to have lots on one side. It's
going to be pretty inefficient if you put a --
McCarvel: That's what I was wondering if we had a picture, because that's what I was
envisioning. I'm like am I not seeing this right in my mind? I mean is there something
simpler going on here? But I'm -- I agree, I don't think that's probably something --
Hood: I mean it could be done, but, again, that -- be careful what you wish for a little bit
there, because I -- that makes it fairly inefficient to run -- to run that -- extend that, then,
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through that property, so -- and that's all I'm -- what's best for him. I'm just saying that's
one of the things -- one of the reasons we didn't require that.
McCarvel: Yeah.
Hood: It's not -- it's not a great location.
Perreault: I'm sorry, are you referring to the -- the piece to the west is developed and --
Hood: I'm saying if -- if Geddes -- basically due north is what I heard --
Perreault: Yeah.
Hood: -- the neighbor request.
Perreault: Okay.
Hood: Extending that when he's ready to develop, you can't even put a developable lot
until you get a substantial distance of extension of that road, because you have got the
narrow part of the triangle right there and you're 50 foot wide with a right of way. Well,
you got to get wide enough to put a lot and even then you're only getting a lot on one
side eventually, so -- and I don't know what his vision is for his property and maybe he
only wants two or three lots. But that's about what you get.
McCarvel: No. I was just -- all of sudden I was just -- is this really landlocked, but it's
not at this point and -- okay. Any other questions?
Yearsley: Madam Chair, just one last --
McCarvel: Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: Sorry. So, this will be an ACHD roadway; correct? Not a private roadway?
Schultz: Commissioner Yearsley, it's absolutely a hundred percent public. Parking on
road to their standards, yes.
McCarvel: Okay. Okay. At this time could I get a motion to close the public hearing for
Item No. H-2017-0041?
Yearsley: So moved.
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Wilson: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No. H-
2017-0041, Geddes Subdivision. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
McCarvel: Comments? Thoughts out loud?
Yearsley: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: I actually like the design. I appreciate the restrictions that the -- the applicant
is actually putting on himself for single story homes. I know it's a lot -- a little bit smaller
than what's out there now, but I think it's actually -- with the single story homes and the
way it's laid out, I think it -- I think it actually works. I think it will look really nice and be a
good in-fill piece for that -- that section of property.
Cassanelli: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Cassanelli.
Cassanelli: I would reiterate that. I think -- my -- my first look before I saw anything was
I'm not a huge fan of -- of bumping up the zoning when everything around it is -- is an R-
4 and to in-fill with an R-8. I'm just not a fan of -- a lot times the way it looks, it looks like
a round peg in a square hole kind of -- kind of look to it. But I with -- with what they
imposed with the -- the looks of the property, the way it's laid out, it's does -- it is an
awkward piece and it's kind of hard to do a lot of things with it, so I do like it. I think the
only thing in terms of my thoughts on -- on some of the conditions would be to address
what has been discussed dealing with the gas issue and the -- and the irrigation coming
off the canal there.
McCarvel: Uh-huh. So, in the motion you would like to see some wording about
protecting current water delivery and utilities --
Cassanelli: Right.
McCarvel: -- on the property.
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Cassanelli: Correct.
Yearsley: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Yearsley.
Yearsley: I believe that -- that's kind of a standard condition --
McCarvel: Yes.
Yearsley: -- already in place, so I don't think that that is necessary for the irrigation.
That's -- that's what is required for developments, that they maintain that type of stuff.
So, I don't know if that needs to be a condition. I don't have an issue with the -- the gas
-- providing access for the gas.
McCarvel: Yeah. I think it looks like -- I mean I agree with Commissioner Cassanelli,
I'm usually not a big fan of an up step in density, but I think the way this is laid out it --
with the shape of the property and everything and most of it is -- a lot of its road, there is
a lot of open space anyway. So, it's -- it's just down to the lot sizes. So, if there is no
other comments, can we get a motion?
Wilson: Madam Chair?
McCarvel: Commissioner Wilson.
Bernt: After considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I move to recommend
to City Council file number H-2017-0041 as presented in the staff report for the hearing
date of May 18th, 2017, with the condition that the applicant recognize that it -- it would
be that gas pipeline that's going to that neighbor, that north landowner.
Bernt: Second.
McCarvel: It has been moved and seconded to approve Item No. H-2017-0041,
Geddes Subdivision. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: SIX AYES. ONE ABSENT.
McCarvel: Okay.