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Home My WebLink AboutMeridian Green No. 4 PPOFFICIALS WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk JANICE L. SMITH, City Treasurer GARY D. SMITH, P.E., City Engineer BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt. JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt. DENNIS J. SUMMERS, Parks Supt. SHARI L. STILES, P & Z Administrator KENNETH W. BOWERS, Fire Chief W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney • 0 MEMBERS HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY COUNCIL WALT W. MORROW, President A Good Place to Live RONALD R. TOLSMA CITY OF MERIDIAN M. C GLRENN LES R. BE TLEREE 33 EAST IDAHO MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 P & Z COMMISSION Phone (208) 888-4433 • FAX (208) 887-4813 JIM JOHNSON, Chairman MALCOLM MACCOY Public works/Building Department (208) 887-2211 KEITH BORUP Legal Department (208) 884-4252 MARK NELSON BYRON SMITH ROBERT D. CORRIE Mayor TRANSMITTAL TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations will be considered by the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall, Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk by: January6, 1998 TRANSMITTAL DATE: 12/17197 HEARING DATE: 1/13_/98 REQUEST: Preliminary Plat for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 BY: Fuller Scott Investment Co. LOCATION OF PROPERTY OR PROJECT: NE of Meridian Greens Unit No. 1 JIM JOHNSON, P/Z MALCOLM MACCOY, P/Z MARK NELSON, P/Z BYRON SMITH, P/Z _KEITH BORUP, P/Z _ROBERT CORRIE, MAYOR _RONALD TOLSMA, C/C _CHARLIE ROUNTREE, C/C _WALT MORROW, C/C _GLENN BENTLEY, C/C _WATER DEPARTMENT _SEWER DEPARTMENT _BUILDING DEPARTMENT _FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICE DEPARTMENT _CITY ATTORNEY _CITY ENGINEER CITY PLANNER MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT MERIDIAN POST OFFICE(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT ADA PLANNING ASSOCIATION CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION DISTRICT SETTLERS IRRIGATION DISTRICT IDAHO POWER CO.(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) U.S. WEST(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) INTERMOUNTAIN GAS(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) BUREAU OF RECLAMATION(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) CITY FILES OTHER: YOUR CONCISE REMARKS: CITY OF MERIDIAN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NAME: Fuller Scott Investment Co . PHONE: 888-4892 ADDRESS: P •0 • Box 851, Meridian, ID 83680 GENERAL LOCATION: Overland Road at S.E. 5th Way DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE: A 20 lot, (18 lots residential and 2 landscape) Planned Unit Residential Subdivision on 7.21 acres of land which is currently zoned R-4. ZONING CLASSIFICATION: Existing Zone R-4 PLAN: A plan of the proposed site for the conditional use showing the location of all buildings, parking and loading areas, traffic access and traffic circulation, open spaces, landscaping, refuse and service areas, utilities, signs and yards (submit 3 5 copies). I certify that the information contained herein is trues and correct. for Fuller Scott Investment ignature of Applic t Social Security Number LEGAL NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING Pursuant to established procedure, NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission will hold a Public Hearing in the Meridian City Hall on at _.m. The purpose of the Hearing is to consider a CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT submitted by _ for the property generally described as located at SUBDIVISION, BLOCK _, LOT TO Civil survey Consultants, Inc. (208)888-4312 Glenn K. Bennett, P.L.S. P.O. Box 39 Fax 888-0323 President 1530 W. State Street Timothy A. Burgess, P.E. Meridian, Idaho 83680 Vice President December 12, 1997 Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator City of Meridian 33 E. Idaho Avenue Meridian, Idaho 83634 Re: Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 Dear Sharie: As requested, I am enclosing 30 copies a Conditional Use Permit application form and Check in the amount of $358.50 on behalf of Fuller / Scott Investment Company for The Meridian Greens Unit No. 4, a Planned Development Residential subdivision located on Overland Road at S.E. 5th Way. I believe all of the other conditional use application issues have been addressed in the subdivision application we submitted on December 10, 1997. Sincerely, Civil Survey Consultants AO AA Tim Burgess, PE Enc. 0 Glenn K. Bennett, P.L.S. President Timothy A. Burgess, P.E. Vice President E Civil Survey Consultants, Inc. P.O. Box 39 1530 W. State Street Meridian, Idaho 83680 Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator City of Meridian 33 E. Idaho Avenue Meridian, Idaho 83634 Re: Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 (208)888-4312 Fax 888-0323 December 10, 1997 Dear Sharie: On behalf of Fuller / Scott Investment Company we are submitting the attached application for The Meridian Greens Unit No. 4, a Planned Development Residential subdivision located on Overland Road at S.E. 5thWay. We are enclosing the following for this submittal: 1. 10 Copies of the Application For Planned Development — Residential which inculdes: Letter of Consent from Owner Application for Request for Approval Preliminary Subdivision Plat Checklist Vicinity Map, Preliminary Plat and Conceptual Plans Summary Report Legal Description Colored Architectural Renderings Draft Covenants Title Report List of Property Owners 2. 30 copies of a large scale vicinity map. 3. 30 copies of a 300 scale vicinity map. 4, 30 copies of the preliminary plat and conceptual engineering plans. 5. Check in the amount of $571.00. 0 • Stiles December 10, 1997 Page 2 of 2 please give this application your earliest possible consideration. thereIf is a information we have soonas missed, or additional information needed please let me know as Po Sincerely, Civil Survey Consultants Tim Burgess, PE Enc. • PREPARED BY CWM SURVEY CONSULTANTS, INC P.O. BOX 38 1530 W. STATE ST. MERIDIAN. ID 836x0 (208)888-4312 SCALE 111=300-' FULLER/SCOTT INVESTMENT CO. PO 80X 851 MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83680 PROJECT PROPOSED MERIDIAN GREENS -UNIT NO. 4 - VICINITY MAP MERIDIAN, IDAHO s � �� OFFICIALS HUB OF TREASURE VALLEYO WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk A Good Place to Live JANICE L. GASH, City Treasurer GARY D. SMITH, P.E., City Engineer CITY OF MERIDIAN BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt. JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt. 33 FAST IDAHO DENNIS J. SUMMERS, Parks Supt. MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 SHARI L. STILES, P & Z Administrator PATTY A. WOLFKIEL, DMV Supervisor Phone (208) 888.4433 • FAX (208) 887-4813 KENNETH W. BOWERS, Fire Chief Public WadmBuilding Departrnent (208) 887-2211 W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief Motor VddcldD&m License (208) 888-4443 WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney GRANT P. MGSFORD Mayor November 30, 1995 Maffett Construction 10463 W. Albany Street Boise, ID 83704 376-2913 RE: 431 E. Calderwood - Meridian Greens COUNCIL MEMBERS RONALD R. TOLSMA MAX YERRINGTON ROBERT D. CORRIE WALT W. MORROW P & Z COMMISSION JIM JOHNSON, Chairman MOE ALIDJANI JIM SHEARER CHARLIE ROUNTREE TIM HEPPER I hesitated to write this letter for the honest reason I do not want to cause a big problem, but I could see that there could be a larger problem in the future. At the corner of E. Calderwood and S.E. 3rd is a streetlight which was installed by the developer as a requirement by the City of Meridian. It was energized and working prior to construction of houses. During the construction of your house, it was reported that the streetlight was not working. I called Idaho Power Company to check out the problem. They reported to me that someone had apparently hooked the underground conduit containing the wiring and pulled the wire from the connection at the junction box at your southeast corner of your lot. The conduit pins along the front of the property parallel to S.E. 3rd Street. Idaho Power informed me that they could not do any more for me. I then contacted Meridian Electric to try and resolve the problem. They checked out the flow of wires and found that they were still intact. They were still concerned that the wires could be partially broke and could bum in two if hooked up to power. The only way to check this out was to dig up the conduit. I told them to splice the ends of the wire and reconnect them to get the streetlight working. I am writing to you to ask that you find the damaged conduit break and repair it by a qualified electrical contractor before you sell the house. This problem arose from the construction of this -house. I would also inform any of your employees and subcontractors to be very careful digging in the utility easements and by all means have the repairs completed immediately by a qualified professional as they happen and inform the proper authorities. 9 After investigating the situation, I am enclosing the bill from Meridian Electric which I feel that you should be responsible to pay. Please contact me as soon as possible as I would like to discuss this matter with you. Sincerely, z x -, a, ,, z: 0William G. Berg, Jr. City Clerk City of Meridian 33 East Idaho Meridian, ID 83642 Job Discription: Repair lines for street light at SE 3rd & Calderwood DECO CITY OF 1,14I:RID1 DATE: 11/30/95 Invoice # 3140 P.O. # 1213 Quantity Item Amount 2 # 2 Butt Splice 4.07 8.14 4 # 6 THHN cu 0.68 2.72 Service Call 42.00 TOTAL $52.86 December 14, 2000 PP 00-019 MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEETING December 19, 2000 APPLICANT Scott -Fuller investments / Glenco ITEM NO. /0 REQUEST Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 13 building lots and 3 other lots on 7.88 acres in an R-4 zone for proposed Meridian Greens No. 4 - NWC and NEC of SE 5th and Overland Road AGENCY CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: CITY WATER DEPT: CITY SEWER DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: SANITARY SERVICE COMPANY CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: COMMENTS See attached P & Z Item Packet See attached Recommendations OTHER: Contacted: MAtf - t4l�t Date: 17 -fig Phone:��- Materials presented at public meetings shag become property of the City of Meridian. r 0 WHITE PETERSON WHITE, PETERSON, MORROW, GIGRAY, ROSSMAN, NYE & ROSSMAN, P.A. JULIEKLEINFiscE R CIIIusToPHERS.NYE WM. F. CAMAY, III PHILIP A. PETERSON BRENT J. JOHNSON ERIC S. ROSSMAN D. SAMUEL JOHNSON TODD A. ROssMAN WnLiAMA.MORROW DAVID M. SWARTLEY WILLIAM F.NICHOLS* TERRENCER.WHITE" *Also admitted in OR ** Also admitted in WA To: Staff Applicant Affected Property Owner(s) Re: Application Case No. ATTORNEYS AT LAW 200 EAST CARLTON AvE., SurrE 31 POST OFFICE Box1150 MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83680-1150 TEL (208) 288-2499 FAx (208) 288*2501 E-MAIL: @WPPMG.COM December 7, 2000 NAWA OFFICE 1049TH AVE. SOUTH POST OFFICE Box 247 NAMPA, IDAHO 83633-0247 TEL. (208) 466-9272 FAX (208) 4664405 PLEASE REPLY TO MERIDIAN OFFICE FXcF1v-P-D DEC - 9 2000 CITY OF MERIDIAN FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION Staff, Applicant and/or Affected Property Owner(s): Please note that these Findins and Recommendations of the Planning and Zoning Commission shall be presented to the tty Council at the public hearing on the above referenced matter by the Plammn and Zoning Administrator. Due to the volume of matters which the City Council must deci§e, and to insure your position is understood and clear, it is important to have a consistent format by which matters are presented at the public hearings before the City Council. The City Council strongly recommends: That you take time to carefully review the Findings and Recommendations of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and be prepared to state your position on this application by addressing the Findings and Recommendations of the Planning and Zoning Commission; and That you carefully complete (be sure it is legible) the Position Statement if you disaee with the Findings and -Recommendations of the Planning and Zoning Commission. The Position Statement form for this application is available at the City Clerk's office. It is recommended that you ppreppare a Position Statement and deliver it to the City Clerk prior to the hearing, if possible. If that is not possible, pplease present your Position Statement to the City Council at the hearing, along with eight (8) copies. The copies will be resented to the Mayor, Council, Planning and Zoning Administrator, Public Works and the City Attorney. If you are a part of a ggrroup, it is strongly recommended that one Position Statement be filled out for the group, w -ch can be signed by the representative for the group. ly/ Very truly yours, a BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN THE MATTER OF THE REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION, SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS, Applicant Case No. PP -00-019 RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL 1. The property is approximately 7.88 acres in size and is generally located on the south side of Overland Road between Meridian Road and Locust Grove Road in Meridian, Idaho. 2. The owner of record of the subject property is Fuller -Scott Investment Company of Meridian. 3. The Applicant is owner of record. 4. The subject property is currently zoned R-4. The zoning of R-4 is defined within the City of Meridian's Zoning and Development Ordinance Section 11-7-2. 5, The subject property is within the city limits of the City of Meridian, 6. The entire parcel of the property is included within the Meridian Urban Service Planning Area as the Urban Service Planning Area which is defined in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan. RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL - I PRELIMINARY PLAT -MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 BY SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS 7. The Applicant proposes to develop the subject property in the following manner: 13 single family residential lots and 3 landscape/common lots. 8. There are no significant or scenic features of major importance that affect the consideration of this application. RECOMMENDATION 1. The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends to the City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the preliminary plat as requested by the Applicant for the property described in the application, subject to the following: Adopt the Planning and Zoning Administrator and Assistant City Engineer Recommendations as follows: 1.1 Sanitary sewer and water service to this site shall be via extensions from existing mains installed through the proposed subdivision in SE 5t' Street. Subdivision designer to coordinate main sizing and routing with the Public Works Department. Sewer manholes are to be provided to keep the sewer lines on the south and west sides of the centerline. 1.2 Lots 1-5, Block 2 are impacted by an irrigation easement. The Applicant is proposing to allow each lot owner to utilize the rear 40 -feet of these five lots for landscaping, which would be consistent with other Meridian Greens lots further south. Typically, Staff recommends all irrigation easements be platted as common lots and fenced, especially when the lateral is not piped and there are potential hazards. However, to remain consistent with other Meridian Greens lots, Staff could support inclusion of the irrigation easement in the lots. If this option is proposed and approved by the Commission and Council, the Applicant must provide a copy of the executed encroachment agreement with Nampa - Meridian Irrigation District, indicating how the land underlying these easements may be used, prior to City signature on the final plat. If RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL - 2 PRELIMINARY PLAT -MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 BY SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS r r encroachment of the Eightmile Lateral is not granted, this 40 -foot easement area will need to be removed from the building lots and platted as a common lot. 1.3 Underground pressurized irrigation must be provided to all landscape areas on site. Due to the landscape area, primary water supply connection to the City's mains will not be allowed. Applicant shall be required to utilize any existing surface or well water for the primary source. The preliminary plat map indicates that the existing P.1. system that borders the eastern boundary of the subdivision be utilized as the primary source. Applicant has indicated that the pressurized irrigation system within this development is to be owned and maintained by the Meridian Greens Homeowners Association. Under this scenario, plans and specifications for the irrigation system shall be reviewed by the Public Works Department as part of the development plan review process. A draft copy of the pressurized irrigation system O&M manual must be submitted prior to plan approval. 1.4 The Applicant is proposing that a 10 -foot strip of the City's well lot at the NE corner of the subdivision be dedicated to ACHD for a right -turn lane on to Overland. A legal description for this 10 -foot strip was submitted with the application. The Developer has stated that the City has indicated a willingness to dedicate the 10 -foot strip. The City Engineer and Public Works Director have both told staff that this is not the case, and that they are not willing to let the strip of land go. Staff recommends that SE 5t' be re -aligned to utilize the developers own land on the west side to provide the necessary width for the intersection design. 1.5 The length of the entry island (Lot 1, Block 3) shall be modified to provide for access into the City's well site from both directions of travel, ie. the south end of the island needs to be north of the driveway leading into the site. 1.6 There appears to be a discrepancy between the Ada County Assessor's basemap and the legal description describing the boundaries of the subject parcel. The Assessor's map shows that the City's well lot eastern boundary does not extend to the centerline of Eightmile Lateral and that the 40 -foot NMID irrigation easement on the east end of this well lot is within the Applicant's parcel. However, the preliminary plat shows the RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL - 3 PRELIMINARY PLAT -MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 BY SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS City owning the land all the way to the centerline. The Applicant should verify the correct boundaries of the subject parcel in this NE corner and, if necessary, modify the legal description and plat boundaries accordingly. 1.7 The plat shows the pressurized irrigation line along the eastern boundary within NMID's Eightmile Lateral easement. Prior to signature on the Final Plat, submit a copy of an encroachment agreement with NMID approving this irrigation line in the easement. 1.8 Lot 1, Block 2 does not have direct lot access to SE 5th Way or a cross access easement. Please modify the plat to demonstrate how this lot will access the public street and provide evidence that ACHD has reviewed and approved of the access point. Staff recommends the access be located on the southern half of the lot. 1.9 Since SE 5t' Way is designated as a Collector, Applicant shall add a note to the plat that the front yard building setback for Lots 1-5, Block 2 is a minimum of 30 feet, per Zoning Ordinance 11-9-1. 1.10 The plat shows the Overland Road landscape buffer and both the east and west SE 5' Way landscape buffers as within landscape easements. Staff does not support the Overland Road or the western SE 5`' Way buffers as being platted within easements. As with Lot 1, Block 3 and Lot 1, Block 4, the Overland Road buffer and the western SE 5"' Way buffer, both north and south of Port Maria Court, must be platted as separate common lots to be owned and maintained by the Homeowner's Association. Platting these areas as separate lots is also consistent with the SE 3rd Way entrance to Meridian Greens and the Goldsmith Avenue entrance to Hunts Bluff Subdivision. Since the eastern SE 5`t' Way landscape buffer is part of the front yards and these five lots will take primary access off of SE 5th Way, Staff supports platting this eastern landscape buffer within an easement. Developer to provide the City with a landscape plan prior to approval of final plat. Developer will also review the agreement with the homeowner's association to attach to their pressurized system. 1.11 A solid, 6 -foot fence is required along the north boundary of Lot 5, Block 2 (except within the 20 -foot landscape buffer), to separate the City well lot from this residential lot. A wrought iron fence is RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL - 4 PRELIMINARY PLAT -MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 BY SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS constructed along the eastern boundary of Eightmile Lateral in Hunts Bluff Subdivision. Staff encourages the Developer to consider similar construction in Meridian Greens #4 Subdivision, Lots 1-5, Block 2. Developer requests that they be allowed to consider landscaping to the waterline in a separate easement. 1.12 The Applicant has stated that the large, mature trees along Overland Road will be preserved and incorporated into the landscape plans. This shall be a condition of the development. 1.13 A detailed landscape plan for the common areas, including fencing locations and types of construction, shall be submitted for review and approval with the submittal of the final plat application. The plan must include sizes and species of trees, shrubs, berm and swale details, and all proposed ground cover/treatment. No fencing will be permitted within the required landscape buffers. Also, no evergreen trees will be permitted within the clear vision triangle areas at the intersections of public roads and driveways. A letter of credit or cash surety in the amount of 110% will be required for all fencing, landscaping, pressurized irrigation, sanitary sewer, water, etc., prior to signature on the Final Plat. Perimeter fencing shall be installed prior to obtaining building permits. 1.14 Submit letter from the Ada County Street Name Committee, approving the subdivision and street names with the final plat application. Make any corrections necessary to conform. 1.15 Coordinate fire hydrant placement with the City of Meridian Public Works Department. 1.16 Provide five -foot -wide sidewalks in accordance with City Ordinance 12- 5-2.10 1.17 All construction shall conform to the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act. 1.18 Any existing irrigation/drainage ditches crossing the property to be included in this project shall be tiled per City Ordinance No. 12-4-13, except as provided for under site specific requirements. The ditches to be piped should be shown on the site plans. Plans will need to be approved by the appropriate irrigation/drainage district, with written RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL - 5 PRELIMINARY PLAT -MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 BY SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS 0 v confirmation of said approval submitted to the Public Works Department. 1.19 Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project will have to be removed from their domestic service per City Ordinance. Wells may be used for non-domestic purposes such as landscape irrigation. 1.20 Two -hundred -fifty and one -hundred watt, high-pressure sodium streetlights will be required at locations designated by the Public Works Department. All streetlights shall be installed at subdivider's expense. Typical locations are at street intersections and/or fire hydrants. 1.21 Indicate on the final plat map any FEMA Flood Plains affecting the area being platted, and detail plans for reducing or eliminating the boundary. Z:\Work\M\Meridian\Meridian 15360M\Reconunendations\PP019Merid4.wpd RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL - 6 PRELIMINARY PLAT -MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 BY SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS low Ada Countfih 4tvaq2)i3tPict 11 R Fast 17th Street Judy Peavey -Derr, rresiaent Garden City, Idaho 83714-6499 Dave Bivens, Vice President Phone (208) 387-6100 Marlyss Meyer, Secretary Fax (208) 387-6391 Sherry R. Huber, Commissioner E-mail: tellus@achd.ada.id.us Susan S. Eastlake, Commissioner November 17, 2000 TO: Fuller -Scott Investment Co 1167 E St. Lucia Meridian, ID 83642 FROM: Christy Richardson, Principal Development Analyst Planning & Development e SUBJECT: Preliminary Plat: 13 Lot Subdivison FBCIEWED N O V 2 0 2000 CITY OF MERIDIAN 5th Street/Overland Road On November 15,2000, the Commissioners of the Ada County Highway District (hereafter called "District") took action on the preliminary Plat as stated on the attached staff report. In order that the Final Plat may be considered by the District for acceptance, the Developer shall cause the following applicable standard conditions to be satisfied prior to District certification and endorsement: 1. Drainage plans shall be submitted and subject to review and approval by the District. 2. If public street improvements are required: Prior to any construction within the existing or proposed public right-of-way, the following shall be submitted and subject to review and approval by the District. a. Three complete sets of detailed street construction drawings prepared by an Idaho registered professional Engineer. b. Execute and Inspection Agreement between the Developer and the District together with initial payment deposit for inspection and/or testing services. C. Complete all street improvements to the satisfaction of the District, or execute a Surety Agreement between the Developer and the District to guarantee the completion of the construction of all required street improvements. 3. Furnish a copy of the Final Plat showing street names as approved by the Local Government Agency having such authority together with the payment of fee charged for the manufacturing and installation of all street signs. • r 4. If Public Right -of -Way Trust Fund deposit is required, make the deposit to the District in the form of cash or cashier's check for the amount specified by the District. 5. Furnish easements, agreements and all other datum or documents as required by the District. 6. Furnish Final Plat drawings together with the plat and plan review fees for District acceptance and endorsement. The final plat must contain the signed endorsement of the Owner and the Land Surveyor's certification. 7. All of the material must be submitted to District staff two -weeks prior to Commission review of the final plat. 8. Approval of the plat is valid for one year. The Commission will consider an extension of one year if requested within 15 -days prior to the expiration date. Please contact me at (208) 387-6170, should you have any questions. Cc: Planning & Development Chron/File Planning & Development Services -City of Meridian Construction Services — John Edney Drainage- Chuck Rinaldi ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT Planning and Development Division Development Application Report Preliminary Plat — Meridian Greens No. 4 5"' Street/Overland Road 13 -lots This application has been referred to ACHD by the City of Meridian for review and comment. Meridian Greens No. 4 is a 13 -lot residential subdivision on 7.88 -acres. The site is located on the south side of Overland Road on both the east and west sides of 5"' Street. 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I S k y � I t aao7a7wte 1 r--- —�a / 3 \ ,CaN• ` » r.'� p '\�,\�liat°'.° . \ ,�fatiaje~° I � � P ♦ �a ' s l:tvwle I � , a � 1T�tU t ,,1" � Ire , �,o� a.♦ •!faala0_ 3 . 4 --�;♦ •.�� \ .t °A' �P 7 �1' p^.P� �aaalfot°1 ... �` 1 .eo» 1 Bart»m,o .aamaaae ♦♦a A \` i R 1 a 1 �^. ~marc Rartxalx 'tIft6u ^. 6 x '!f ,a • • .^ 8 1 ,. � Rvaaeaaa ^ THE �t. v \ »naefato I ... aSeAtaoao 0 p 11-..``.,• x _/: aaaay� 'tirJ _: se»afa7a a7ana+,ttei 1 y t ...._.. _ 1' asa»x nx 6 aOaA„t4Gl ♦ j ”♦••, °^ �•f •sa»ia.ew, , , fi ne t -e. `� .aclmulo �•. N ♦ ♦. +irk ' � aarmwa 1 Ranxao7e faa,ra,eaa PREPARED BY OWNER/DEVELOPER PROJECT THE MERIDIAN GREENS — UNIT NO. 4 CIVIIa SURVEY CONSULTANTS, INC GLENCO LOCATED IN T3N, R1 E, SEC. 19 100 S. ADKINS WAY 1167 E. ST. LUCIA MERIDIAN, IDAHO SUITE 101MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 VICINITY MAP MERIDIAN. ID 83642 (208)888-4312 (20$)888-7728 FILE: VIC.DWG I DATE: 8/21/00 SHEET: 1 OF 1 Facts and Findings: A. General Information Owner — Fuller -Scott Investment Applicant — Civil Survey R-4 - Existing zoning 7.88 - Acres 13 - Proposed building lots 3 - Proposed common lots 900 - Total lineal feet of proposed public streets 287 - Traffic Analysis Zone (TAZ) West Ada - Impact Fee Service Area Meridian - Impact Fee Assessment District Overland Road Minor arterial with bike lane designation Traffic count of 10,724 on 8-24-99 Better than C -Existing Level of Service Better than C -Existing plus project build -out Level of Service 610 -feet of frontage 50 -feet existing right-of-way (25 -feet from centerline) 96 -feet required right-of-way (48 -feet from centerline) Overland Road is improved with a two-lane street section with no curb, gutter or sidewalk abutting the site. This segment of Overland Road is listed in the District's Five Year Work Program for widening to a 5 -lane street section with bike lanes and sidewalk in 2004. 5"' Street Collector with bike lane designation No traffic count available 650 -feet of frontage 60 -feet existing right-of-way south of the site 58 -feet required right-of-way for the extension 5"' Street is improved with a 37 -foot street section with curb, gutter and sidewalk on the segment of 5"' Street south of the site. B. On October 30, 2000, the District Planning and Development staff inspected this site and evaluated the transportation system in the vicinity. On November 3, 2000, the staff met as the District's Technical Review Committee and reviewed the impacts of this proposed development on the District's transportation system. The results of that analysis constitute the following Facts and Findings and recommended Site Specific Requirements. Meridian Greens No. 4 Page 2 C. Utility street cuts in pavement less than five years old are not allowed unless approved in writing by the District. Contact Construction Services at 387-6280 (with file numbers) for details. D. 5"' Street is constructed through the site currently with 24 -feet of pavement with no curb, gutter or sidewalk, and is located on an easement, not in right-of-way. The applicant is proposing to extend 5"' Street from the south property line to Overland Road. 5"' Street is classified as a collector on the Ada County Long Range Highway and Street Map. The applicant should be required to construct 5"' Street to a 40 -foot street section with vertical curbs, gutters and 5 -foot wide concrete sidewalk within 58 -feet of right-of-way. The applicant will be compensated for the curb, gutter, and pavement widening beyond a 24 -foot street section, and for 8 -feet of right- of-way from available impact revenues in this service area. The applicant should provide the District with design plans of the existing roadway, or conduct core sampling to ensure it meets collector road standards. If the existing roadway does not meet collector road standards, the applicant should rebuild the existing roadway. E. District policy requires the applicant to provide a $11,000 deposit to the Public Rights -of -Way Trust Fund for the cost of constructing a 5 -foot wide concrete sidewalk on Overland Road abutting the parcel (approximately 550 -feet) prior to District approval of a final plat, whichever occurs first. F. Any proposed landscape islands/medians within the public right-of-way dedicated by this plat should be owned and maintained by a homeowners association. Notes of this should be required on the final plat. G. The main project entrance for 5"' Street should be designed with a minimum 21 -feet of pavement and located as proposed in its existing location. The median should be constructed a minimum of 4 -feet wide to total a 100 -square foot area. The applicant will be required to dedicate 54 -feet of right-of-way plus the additional width of the median, and will not be compensated for the additional right-of-way necessary for the median. H. 5"' Street is designated as a collector street. Typically front -on housing is prohibited on collector streets due to the anticipated traffic volumes. The applicant is proposing to construct two shared access driveways and one single access driveway on 5"' Street to five lots, as there is no other was to access these lots. The applicant is proposing to construct a shared driveway between Lot 4 and Lot 5, Block 2, and located approximately 200 -feet south of Overland road. The applicant is proposing to construct a second shared driveway between Lot 2 and Lot 3, Block 2, located to align with Port Mara Court. The proposed shared driveway locations meet District policy for driveway offsets on this street. The applicant should construct the single driveway to Lot 1, Block 2, a minimum of 150 -feet south of the proposed Port Mara Court. Staff recommends that these three driveways have on-site turnarounds, and that the lots with shared driveways have cross -access easements. The requirement for on-site turnarounds and easements should be noted on the final plat, and should also be noted in the subdivision's CC&Rs. The applicant is proposing to locate Port Mara Court off the west side of 5"' Street, approximately 165 -feet north of the south property line. District policy requires streets to align Meridian Greens No Page 3 or offset a minimum of 125 -feet from any existing or proposed streets. The proposed location conforms to District policy. The applicant should be required to construct Port Mara Court as a 36 -foot street section with curb, gutter, and 5 -foot wide concrete sidewalks within 50 -feet of right-of-way. The turnaround should be constructed to provide a minimum turning radius of 45 -feet. The applicant should also be required to provide a minimum of a 29 -foot street section on either side of the center island within the turnaround. The median should be constructed a minimum of 4 - feet wide to total a minimum of a 100 -square foot area. Dedicate 54 -feet of right-of-way plus the additional width of the median. K. Based on development patterns in this area and the resulting traffic generation, staff anticipates that the transportation system will be adequate to accommodate additional traffic generated by this proposed development with the requirements outlined within this report. The following Site Specific Requirements and Standard Requirements must be met or provided for prior to ACHD approval of the final plat: Site Specific Requirements: Dedicate 58 -feet of right-of-way for the extension of 5" Street through the parcel by means of recordation of a final subdivision plat or execution of a warranty deed prior to issuance of a building permit (or other required permits), whichever occurs first. Allow up to 30 business days to process the right-of-way dedication after receipt of all requested material. The owner will be compensated for all right-of-way in excess of 50 -feet (8 -feet) dedicated as an addition to existing right-of-way from available impact fee revenues in this benefit zone, if the owner submits a letter of application to the impact fee administrator prior to breaking ground, in accordance with Section 15 of ACHD Ordinance #193. 2. Dedicate 48 -feet of right-of-way from the centerline of Overland Road abutting the parcel by means of recordation of a final subdivision plat or execution of a warranty deed prior to issuance of a building permit (or other required permits), whichever occurs first. Allow up to 30 business days to process the right-of-way dedication after receipt of all requested material. The owner will be compensated for all right-of-way dedicated as an addition to existing right- of-way from available impact fee revenues in this benefit zone, if the owner submits a letter of application to the impact fee administrator prior to breaking ground, in accordance with Section 15 of ACHD Ordinance #193. Constrict 5"' Street to a 40 -foot collector street with vertical curb, gutter, and 5 -foot wide concrete sidewalk. The applicant will be reimbursed for the cost of vertical curb, gutter, and pavement widening beyond a 24 -foot street section, and for 8 -feet of right-of-way from available impact revenues in this service area. Provide the District with design plans of the existing roadway, or conduct core sampling to ensure the existing roadway meets collector road standards. If the existing roadway does not meet collector road standards, the applicant shall rebuild the existing roadway. Meridian Greens No. 4 Page 4 4. Provide an $11,000 deposit to the Public Rights -of -Way Trust Fund for the cost of constructing a 5 -foot wide concrete sidewalk on Overland Road abutting the parcel (approximately 550 -feet) prior to District approval of a final plat, whichever occurs first. The main project entrance for 5"' Street shall be designed with a minimum 21 -feet of pavement and located as proposed in its existing location. The median shall be constructed a minimum of 4 -feet wide to total a 100 -square foot area. The applicant shall be required to dedicate 54 -feet of right-of-way plus the additional width of the median, and will not be compensated for the additional right-of-way necessary for the median. 6. Any proposed landscape islands/medians within the public right-of-way dedicated by this plat shall be owned and maintained by a homeowners association. Notes of this shall be required on the final plat. 7. The proposed shared driveways located between Lot 4 and Lot 5, Block 2, and between Lot 2 and Lot 3, Block 2, are approved with this application. Construct the single driveway to Lot 1, Block 2, a minimum of 150 -feet south of the proposed Port Mara Court. These three driveways shall be constructed with on-site turnarounds, and that the lots with shared driveways shall have cross -access easements. The requirement for on-site turnarounds and easements shall be noted on the final plat, and shall also be noted in the subdivision's CC&Rs. Locate Port Mara Court off the west side of 5"' Street, approximately 165 -feet north of the south property line as proposed. Construct Port Mara Court as a 36 -foot street section with curb, gutter, and 5 -foot wide concrete sidewalks within 50 -feet of right-of-way. 9. Construct the turnaround to provide a minimum turning radius of 45 -feet. Provide a minimum of a 29 -foot street section on either side of the center island within the turnaround. The median shall be constructed a minimum of 4 -feet wide to total a minimum of a 100 -square foot area. Dedicate 54 -feet of right-of-way plus the additional width of the median. 10. Other than the access points specifically approved with this application, direct lot or parcel access to 5"' Street is prohibited. Lot access restrictions, as required with this application, shall be stated on the final plat. Standard Requirements: A request for modification, variance or waiver of any requirement or policy outlined herein shall be made in writing to the ACHD Planning and Development Supervisor. The request shall specifically identify each requirement to be reconsidered and include a written explanation of why such a requirement would result in a substantial hardship or inequity. The written request shall be submitted to the District no later than 9.00 a m on the day scheduled for ACHD Commission action Those items shall be rescheduled for discussion with the Commission on the next available meeting agenda. Meridian Greens No. 4 Page 5 0 (V Requests submitted to the District after 9:00 a.m. on the day scheduled for Commission action do not provide sufficient time for District staff to remove the item from the consent agenda and report to the Commission regarding the requested modification, variance or waiver. Those items will be acted on by the Commission unless removed from the agenda by the Commission. 2. After ACHD Commission action, any request for reconsideration of the Commission's action shall be made in writing to the Planning and Development Supervisor within six days of the action and shall include a minimum fee of $110.00. The request for reconsideration shall specifically identify each requirement to be reconsidered and include written documentation of data that was not available to the Commission at the time of its original decision The request for reconsideration will be heard by the District Commission at the next regular meeting of the Commission. If the Commission agrees to reconsider the action, the applicant will be notified of the date and time of the Commission meeting at which the reconsideration will be heard. 3. Payment of applicable road impact fees are required prior to building construction in accordance with Ordinance #193, also known as Ada County Highway District Road Impact Fee Ordinance. 4. All design and construction shall be in accordance with the Ada County Highway District Policy Manual, ISPWC Standards and approved supplements, Construction Services procedures and all applicable ACHD Ordinances unless specifically waived herein. An engineer registered in the State of Idaho shall prepare and certify all improvement plans. 5. The applicant shall submit revised plans for staff approval, prior to issuance of building permit (or other required permits), which incorporates any required design changes. 6. Construction, use and property development shall be in conformance with all applicable requirements of the Ada County Highway District prior to District approval for occupancy. 7. It is the responsibility of the applicant to verify all existing utilities within the right-of-way. Existing utilities damaged by the applicant shall be repaired by the applicant at no cost to ACRD. The applicant shall be required to call DIGLINE (1-800-342-1585) at least two full business days prior to breaking ground within ACHD right-of-way. The applicant shall contact ACHD Traffic Operations 387-6190 in the event any ACHD conduits (spare or filled) are compromised during any phase of construction. No change in the terns and conditions of this approval shall be valid unless they are in writing and signed by the applicant or the applicant's authorized representative and an authorized representative of the Ada County Highway District. The burden shall be upon the applicant to obtain written confinnation of any change from the Ada County Highway District. 9. Any change by the applicant in the planned use of the property which is the subject of this application, shall require the applicant to comply with all rules, regulations, ordinances, plans, or other regulatory and legal restrictions in force at the time the applicant or its successors in interest advises the Highway District of its intent to change the planned use of the subject Meridian Greens No. 4 Page 6 0 • property unless a waiver/variance of said requirements or other legal relief is granted pursuant to the law in effect at the time the change in use is sought. Conclusion of Law: ACHD requirements are intended to assure that the proposed use/development will not place an undue burden on the existing vehicular and pedestrian transportation system within the vicinity impacted by the proposed development. Should you have any questions or comments, please contact the Planning and Development Division at 387-6170. Submitted by: Commission Action: Planning and Development Staff November 15, 2000 Meridian Greens No. 4 Page 7 November 9, 2000 MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING MEETING November 14, 2000 APPLICANT Scott -Fuller Investments ITEM NO. 3 REQUEST Preliminary Plat approval of 13 building lots and 3 other lots on 7.88 acres h -a -1r - AGENCY CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: CITY WATER DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: OTHER: See attached from Sa COMMENTS See Attached letter from resident See Attached See Attached See Attached See Attached See Attached C4 Cb avw\ua, 6W at -tv (�-t �� C�L Service Contacted: /A Date: *41 Phone: f Materials presented at public meetings shall become properly of the City of Meridian. A 4 0/:7 MEMORANDUM: November 7, 2000 To: Planning & Zoning Commission / Mayor & City Council Nw ��ity 0 From: Bruce Freckleton, Senior Engineering Technicianj*lit, Brad Hawkins -Clark, Planner "k Ni. Re: Request for Preliminary Plat of 7.88 Acres for 16 Lots by Fuller -Scott Investment Company/Gleno for Proposed Meridian Greens No. 4 Subdivision in an R-4 Zone. (File # PP -00-019) We have reviewed this submittal and offer the following comments, as conditions of the application. These conditions shall be considered in full, unless expressly modi ft d or deleted by motion of the Meridian City Council.- APPLICATION ouncil. APPLICATION SUMMARY This application proposes to create 13 single-family residential lots and 3 landscape/common lots at a gross density of 2.03 dwelling units per acre. This plat would be the final phase of the Meridian Greens Subdivision (there are three existing, built -out phases of Meridian Greens). The 7.88 -acre parcel is an infill parcel, surrounded on all four sides by existing development. There is a new public Collector road (SE 5'h Way) and a new cul-de-sac proposed within the plat. LOCATION The property is generally located on the south side of Overland Road directly across from Western Equipment, between Meridian Road and Locust Grove Road. It is designated as Existing Urban in the 1993 comprehensive plan. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES North — Western Equipment, zoned C -G South — Meridian Greens Subdivision No. 1, zoned R-4 East — Eightmile Drain and Hunts Bluff Subdivision, zoned R-4 West — Meridian Greens Subdivision No. 1, zoned R-4, and three Ada County lots, zoned R1 SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS 1. Sanitary sewer and water service to this site shall be via extensions from existing mains installed through the proposed subdivision in SE 5,' Street. Subdivision designer to coordinate main sizing and routing with the Public Works Department. Sewer manholes are to be provided to keep the sewer lines on the south and west sides of the centerline. PP -00-019 Meridian Greens No4.PP HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY MAYOR A Good Place to Live LEGAL DEPARTMENT (208) 288-2499 - Fax 288-2501 Robert D. Corrie CITY OF MERIDIAN PUBLIC WORKS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BLTII,DING DEPARTMENT Ron Anderson 33 EAST IDAHO (208) 887-2211 • Fax 887-1297 Keith Bird MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 - FAX (208) 887-4813 PLANNING AND ZONING Tammy deWeerd Tam City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT Cherie McCandless (208) 8845533 • FAX 888-6854 MEMORANDUM: November 7, 2000 To: Planning & Zoning Commission / Mayor & City Council Nw ��ity 0 From: Bruce Freckleton, Senior Engineering Technicianj*lit, Brad Hawkins -Clark, Planner "k Ni. Re: Request for Preliminary Plat of 7.88 Acres for 16 Lots by Fuller -Scott Investment Company/Gleno for Proposed Meridian Greens No. 4 Subdivision in an R-4 Zone. (File # PP -00-019) We have reviewed this submittal and offer the following comments, as conditions of the application. These conditions shall be considered in full, unless expressly modi ft d or deleted by motion of the Meridian City Council.- APPLICATION ouncil. APPLICATION SUMMARY This application proposes to create 13 single-family residential lots and 3 landscape/common lots at a gross density of 2.03 dwelling units per acre. This plat would be the final phase of the Meridian Greens Subdivision (there are three existing, built -out phases of Meridian Greens). The 7.88 -acre parcel is an infill parcel, surrounded on all four sides by existing development. There is a new public Collector road (SE 5'h Way) and a new cul-de-sac proposed within the plat. LOCATION The property is generally located on the south side of Overland Road directly across from Western Equipment, between Meridian Road and Locust Grove Road. It is designated as Existing Urban in the 1993 comprehensive plan. SURROUNDING PROPERTIES North — Western Equipment, zoned C -G South — Meridian Greens Subdivision No. 1, zoned R-4 East — Eightmile Drain and Hunts Bluff Subdivision, zoned R-4 West — Meridian Greens Subdivision No. 1, zoned R-4, and three Ada County lots, zoned R1 SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS 1. Sanitary sewer and water service to this site shall be via extensions from existing mains installed through the proposed subdivision in SE 5,' Street. Subdivision designer to coordinate main sizing and routing with the Public Works Department. Sewer manholes are to be provided to keep the sewer lines on the south and west sides of the centerline. PP -00-019 Meridian Greens No4.PP Mayor, Council and P&Z November 7, 2000 Page 2 2. Lots 1-5, Block 2 are impacted by an irrigation easement. The Applicant is proposing to allow each lot owner to utilize the rear 40 -feet of these five lots for landscaping, which would be consistent with other Meridian Greens lots further south. Typically, Staff recommends all irrigation easements be platted as common lots and fenced, especially when the lateral is not piped and there are potential hazards. However, to remain consistent with other Meridian Greens lots, Staff could support inclusion of the irrigation easement in the lots. If this option is proposed and approved by the Commission and Council, the Applicant must provide a copy of the executed encroachment agreement with Nampa -Meridian Irrigation District, indicating how the land underlying these easements may be used, prior to City signature on the final plat. If encroachment of the Eightmile Lateral is not granted, this 40 -foot easement area will need to be removed from the building lots and platted as a common lot. 3. Underground pressurized irrigation must be provided to all landscape areas on site. Due to the landscape area, primary water supply connection to the City's mains will not be allowed. Applicant shall be required to utilize any existing surface or well water for the primary source. The preliminary plat map indicates that the existing P.I. system that borders the eastern boundary of the subdivision be utilized as the primary source. Applicant has indicated that the pressurized irrigation system within this development is to be owned and maintained by the Meridian Greens Homeowners Association. Under this scenario, plans and specifications for the irrigation system shall be reviewed by the Public Works Department as part of the development plan review process. A draft copy of the pressurized irrigation system O&M manual must be submitted prior to plan approval. 4. The Applicant is proposing that a 10 -foot strip of the City's well lot at the NE corner of the subdivision be dedicated to ACRD for a right -turn lane on to Overland. A legal description for this 10 -foot strip was submitted with the application. The Developer has stated that the City has indicated a willingness to dedicate the 10 -foot strip. The City Engineer and Public Works Director have both told staff that this is not the case, and that they are not willing to let the strip of land go. Staff recommends that SE 5`" be re -aligned to utilize the developers own land on the west side to provide the necessary width for the intersection design.. 5. Please modify the length of the entry island (Lot 1, Block 3) to provide for access into the City's well site from both directions of travel, ie. the south end of the island needs to be north of the driveway leading into the site. 6. There appears to be a discrepancy between the Ada County Assessor's basemap and the legal description describing the boundaries of the subject parcel. The Assessor's map shows that the City's well lot eastern boundary does not extend to the centerline of Eightmile Lateral and that the 40 -foot NMID irrigation easement on the east end of this well lot is within the Applicant's parcel. However, the preliminary plat shows the City owning the land all the way to the centerline. The Applicant should verify the correct boundaries of the subject parcel in this NE corner and, if necessary, modify the legal description and plat boundaries accordingly PP -OD -014 Mayor, Council and P&Z November 7, 2000 Page 3 7. The plat shows the pressurized irrigation line along the eastern boundary within NMID's Eightmile Lateral easement. Prior to signature on the Final Plat, submit a copy of an encroachment agreement with NMID approving this irrigation line in the easement. 8. Lot 1, Block 2 does not have direct lot access to SE 5"' Way or a cross access easement. Please modify the plat to demonstrate how this lot will access the public street and provide evidence that ACHD has reviewed and approved of the access point. Staff recommends the access be located on the southern half of the lot. 9. Since SE 5d' Way is designated as a Collector, Applicant shall add a note to the plat that the front yard building setback for Lots 1-5, Block 2 is a minimum of 30 feet, per Zoning Ordinance 11-9-1. 10. The plat shows the Overland Road landscape buffer and both the east and west SE 5d` Way landscape buffers as within landscape easements. Staff does not support the Overland Road or the western SE 5`h Way buffers as being platted within easements. As with Lot 1, Block 3 and Lot 1, Block 4, the Overland Road buffer and the western SE 5`" Way buffer, both north and south of Port Maria Court, must be platted as separate common lots to be owned and maintained by the Homeowner's Association. Platting these areas as separate lots is also consistent with the SE 3`d Way entrance to Meridian Greens and the Goldsmith Avenue entrance to Hunts Bluff Subdivision. Since the eastern SE 54 Way landscape buffer is part of the front yards and these five lots will take primary access off of SE 5d' Way, Staff supports platting this eastern landscape buffer within an easement. 11. A solid, 6 -foot fence is required along the north boundary of Lot 5, Block 2 (except within the 20 -foot landscape buffer), to separate the City well lot from this residential lot. A wrought iron fence is constructed along the eastern boundary of Eightmile Lateral in Hunts Bluff Subdivision. Staff encourages the Developer to consider similar construction in Meridian Greens #4 Subdivision, Lots 1-5, Block 2. 12. The Applicant has stated that the large, mature trees along Overland Road will be preserved and incorporated into the landscape plans. This shall be a condition of the development. 13. A detailed landscape plan for the common areas, including fencing locations and types of construction, shall be submitted for review and approval with the submittal of the final plat application. The plan must include sizes and species of trees, shrubs, berm and swale details, and all proposed ground cover/treatment. No fencing will be permitted within the required landscape buffers. Also, no evergreen trees will be permitted within the clear vision triangle areas at the intersections of public roads and driveways. A letter of credit or cash surety in the amount of 110% will be required for all fencing, landscaping, pressurized irrigation, sanitary sewer, water, etc., prior to signature on the Final Plat. Perimeter fencing shall be installed prior to obtaining building permits. GENERAL REQUIREMENTS PP -00.014 Mayor, Council and P&Z November 7, 2000 Page 4 1. Submit letter from the Ada County Street Name Committee, approving the subdivision and street names with the final plat application. Make any corrections necessary to conform. 2. Coordinate fire hydrant placement with the City of Meridian Public Works Department. 3. Provide five -foot -wide sidewalks in accordance with City Ordinance 12-5-2.K. 4. All construction shall conform to the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act. 5. Any existing irrigation/drainage ditches crossing the property to be included in this project shall be tiled per City Ordinance No. 12-4-13, except as provided for under site specific requirements. The ditches to be piped should be shown on the site plans. Plans will need to be approved by the appropriate irrigation/drainage district, with written confirmation of said approval submitted to the Public Works Department. 6. Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project will have to be removed from their domestic service per City Ordinance. Wells may be used for non- domestic purposes such as landscape irrigation. 7. Two -hundred -fifty and one -hundred watt, high-pressure sodium streetlights will be required at locations designated by the Public Works Department. All streetlights shall be installed at subdivider's expense. Typical locations are at street intersections and/or fire hydrants. 8. Indicate on the final plat map any FEMA Flood Plains affecting the area being platted, and detail plans for reducing or eliminating the boundary. 9. Please respond in writing to the each of the comments contained in this memorandum by noon on Monday, November 13, 2000. Submit ten copies of the revised preliminary plat map to the City Clerk's office prior to the public hearing before City Council. RECOMMENDATION Staff recommends approval of the Preliminary Plat with the above conditions. PP OM14 5 October 2000 Meridian City Council 33 E Idaho Ave Meridian, ID 83642 To Whom It May Concern: ]REcElvED 0 C T - 6 2000 CITY OF MERIDIAN Mr. Norm Fuller has proposed residential development of an area along Overland Ave. near SE 5th Way, which is an entrance to Meridian Greens subdivision. Members of the Meridian Greens Homeowners Association (hereafter referred to as "Association") and other interested parties have reviewed the proposal with generally positive comments. Mr. Fuller is proposing to annex the development to the current Meridian Greens subdivision, connect to our pressurized irrigation system and let the Association maintain the additional irrigation capacity and common areas. The Association has specific concerns and requirements that we want addressed by Mr. Fuller before we are willing to accept financial and maintenance responsibility for the proposed annexation. The accompanying letter has been sent to Mr. Fuller itemizing these concerns. The Association wants the City Council to also be aware of our concerns and is sending the City Council a copy for your reference. As stated in the letter, the Association would expect a written proposal addressing these concerns from Mr. Fuller, and the Association would expect to negotiate a written agreement on solutions, prior to final approval by the City Council. Thank you for your attention to this matter. i cerely, Harmon Avera, Jr. President, Meridian Greens Homeowners Association (208) 887-1231 4 October 2000 Mr. Norm Fuller 1167 Saint Lucia Meridian, ID 83642 Dear Mr. Fuller: Members of the Meridian Greens Homeowners Association (hereafter referred to as "Association") and other interested Rarties have reviewed your proposed development plat for homes near Overland Avenue and 5 Way. The plat appearance and proposed homes seem consistent with current development and Covenants in Meridian Greens. However, the Association has several concerns regarding the proposed annexation into the Meridian Greens subdivision and connection to the existing pressurized irrigation system. Concern 1: Connection to Existing Irrigation System The current irrigation system services approximately 200 homes in the subdivision. The Association has been forced to spend between $18,000 and $20,000 over the last five years to upgrade and improve all of the original pumping equipment and the electrical system. It is currently adequate for most of the serviced homes, but there is a significant pressure drop for the homes toward Overland. An improperly designed addition to this system would cause inadequate service to all of these homes, both new and existing. To avoid such problems, the plans for your addition to the pressurized irrigation must be reviewed by the Association and must include the following: 1. Adequate pipe size to maintain current pressure and flow to the new and existing homes; 2. A "looped" system in the additional (new) piping; 3. Isolation valves in the system; 4. Drain valves on each side of the system to be located at the lowest point in the system (to drain into the flood control system); and 5. No more than two (2) homes per 3/4" access valve. Concern 2: Additional Irrigation System Pumping Capacity New users cannot be added to the current Meridian Greens irrigation system without additional pumping capacity. This capacity would consist of such things as additional pump(s), motor(s), electrical connections (wiring), pressure sensor switches and/or controls, and any labor to install and test the new system. In order for connection to occur, the Association expects that any such pump work • Must meet with our approval, • Should be done by the vendors we have developed while replacing the original equipment (they are familiar with our system), and • Should be paid for directly by the developer at no cost to the Association. It is not acceptable for the developer to simply pay the Association some money and expect the Association to add the pumping capacity itself. Concern 3: Irrigation of New Common Areas It is the Association's responsibility to minimize maintenance costs to the homeowners where possible. Also, it is in Meridian City's interest to minimize use of potable water for irrigation purposes. Therefore, the Association expects that any common area(s) or community maintained zone(s) would be irrigated using pressurized irrigation water rather than city drinking water. The Association would expect to review and approve plans for such an irrigation system. The developer would be expected to install such an automatic irrigation system (including sprinklers, timers, electrical connections, etc.) at no cost to the Association. Once installed and tested (assuming the development is annexed into Meridian Greens), the Association would maintain the irrigation system from Association funds. Summary Mr. Fuller, the Association would welcome improvement to the property along 5h Way between Overland and the Meridian Greens subdivision. The proposed plat and homes appear compatible with our Covenants and could be annexed into our subdivision. However, we would need a written proposal addressing our concerns. Also, the Association would need to approve plans for the new irrigation system, pumping capacity, and common area irrigation before we would be willing to assume the ongoing maintenance costs once the new development was annexed as part of Meridian Greens subdivision. Sincer y, Harmon Avera, Jr. President Meridian Greens Homeowners Association Cc: Meridian City Planning & Zoning Commission Meridian City Council Association Files Glenn K. Bennett, P.L.S. President Timothy A. Burgess, P.E. Vice President Brad Hawkins -Clark City of Meridian Planning & Zoning 200 E. Carlton Ave. Meridian, ID 83642 Re: Meridian Greens No. 4 Dear Brad: Survey Consultants, Inc. 100 S. Adkins Way Suite 101 Meridian, Idaho 83642 (208)888-4312 Fax 888-0323 November 9, 2000 Following please find the written response regarding P&Z's staff report dated September 7, 2000, and 10 revised copies of the preliminary plat. SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS 1. Developer will use existing sewer & water mains where possible and coordinate all new main sizing and routing with Public Works Department. 2. Lots 1-5, Block 2 will be revised to have the rear lots lines match the irrigation easement boundaries. An encroachment agreement from Nampa -Meridian Irrigation district shall not be necessary. No fences are proposed along the rear lots lines. Pressure irrigation will be provided to all new lots, including common lots and landscape areas. Plans will be submitted for approval. 4. There was a miscommunication between the Engineer and the City regarding dedication of a 10 - foot strip of land from the City's well lot for use of the intersection at Overland and SE 5"' Way. The entrance shall be shifted to the west and the current well lot boundary shall remain unchanged. 5. The entry island will be modified to provide full access to the City's well lot. 6. The City's well lot includes the western 40' of the irrigation easement. The easterly 40' of the irrigation easement is owned by the Developer. The subdivision boundary has been modified to exclude the entire 80' irrigation easement along the Eightmile Lateral. The easement will not be platted with this subdivision. 7. Pressure irrigation will be moved outside Nampa -Meridian's easement. No encroachment agreement shall be necessary. 8. ACHD recommends a6eway a minimum of 150' south of theSrsection of Port Maria Way. The driveway easement shall be shown on the plat. 9. Note shall be added 10. The landscape area on Overland Road shall be changed to a common lot per City's recommendations. The Developer has talked with the Homeowner's Association, and the Association has expressed the opinion that they do not wish to own and maintain additional areas on SE 5`" Way. The Developer requests that the west side of SE 5" Way be bordered by a 20' landscape easement (instead of a common lot) identical to the landscape easement approved for the east side of the street. These landscape easements would still be required to have an approved landscaping plan. Maintenance of the landscape easement would still be enforced through the Subdivision's Covenants. The only difference between having the landscape area be an easement instead of a common lot is the individual homeowner would maintain the area instead of the Homeowner's Association. Requiring individual homeowners maintain the landscape areas instead of the Homeowner's Association would be a benefit to the City. Homeowners in Meridian Greens take pride in their homes. Houses are nice and expensive. Yards and landscaping are very well kept. By making the landscape areas along SE 5' Way easements instead of common lots, the care and maintenance of the areas will be included with the individual homeowner. Instead of the Homeowner's Association hiring some random landscaping contractor, with no personal interest in the appearance of the landscape areas, to maintain these areas, a private homeowner will take care of the area because it belongs to the private homeowner. There are areas within the subdivision that must obviously be declared common areas, such as landscape medians. However, the existing common areas in the other phases of Meridian Greens are the only areas that do not always receive proper maintenance. Trees die and grass turns brown on some of the existing common landscape medians. Neither the City nor the Developer wants this type of neglect to ruin the main entrance to Meridian Greens along SE 5`h Way. The best way to maintain the aesthetic appeal of this route is to plat the landscape areas as easements instead of common areas. 11. Developer will build fence between Lot 5, Block 2 and the City's well lot. The Developer does not wish to construct a fence on the rear lot lines of Lots 1-5, Block 2. Nampa -Meridian does not maintain their easement and constructing a fence would prevent homeowners from maintaining the strip of land between their rear lot lines and the water surface. This strip of land would be an eyesore where weeds would grow out of control. The Developer wishes to keep this area open so private homeowners could maintain the area. 12. The trees along Overland Road shall be preserved and incorporated into the landscape design. 13. Landscaping plans will be submitted for approval. A letter of credit or cash surety will be provided to cover the listed improvements. GENERAL REQUIREMENTS 1. Approval from the Ada County Street Name Committee shall be submitted with the final plat. 2. Fire hydrant placement shall be coordinated with the City of Meridian Public Works Department. 4 0 Sidewalks are 5' wide. 4. ADA requirements shall be met. The Eightmile Lateral runs along the easterly boundary of this site. A common lot is proposed for the entire 80' width of the irrigation easement. The Developer requests a waiver of city Ordinance No. 12-4-13, requiring tiling of irrigation ditches. 6. There are no domestic wells and/or septic systems on this proposed development. 7. Streetlight locations will coordinated with the Pubic Works Department. 8. This area is outside the FEMA Flood Plains. If you need anything else, please call. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, Civil Survey Consultants, Inc. X47 - Ar Matt Hart, P.E. _ MAYOR Robert D. Come CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS Ron Anderson .Keith Bird Tammy deWeerd Cherie McCandless HUI? OF TREASURE VALLEY A Good Place to Live TY OF MERIDIA SN 33 EAST IDAHO MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 - Fax (208) 887-4813 City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 LEGAL DEPARTMENT (208) 288-2499• Fax 288-2501 PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING DEPARTMENT (208)887-2211- Fax 887-1297 PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT (208) 884-5533 - Fax 888-6854 TRANSMITTALS TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations will be considered by the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk, by: November 7, 2000 Transmittal Date: October 5, 2000 Hearing Date: November 14, 2000 File No.: PP 00-019 Request: Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 13 building lots and 3 other lots on 7.88 acres for proposed The Meridian Greens No. 4 By: Fuller -Scott Investment Company / Glenco Location of Property or Project: northwest and northeast corner of SE 5th and Overland Sally Norton, P/Z Bill Nary, P/Z Thomas Barbeiro, P/Z Richard Hatcher, P/Z Keith Borup, P/Z Robert Come, Mayor Ron Anderson, C/C Tammy deWeerd, C/C Keith Bird, C/C Cherie McCandless, C/C K Water Department Sewer Department Sanitary Service Building Department Fire Department Police Department City Attorney City Engineer Meridian School District Meridian Post Office (FP/PP) Ada County Highway District Community Planning Assoc. Central District Health Nampa Meridian Irrig. District Settlers Irrigation District Idaho Power Co. (FP/PP) U.S. West (FP/PP) Intermountain Gas (FP/PP) Ada County (Annexation) Idaho Transportation Department Your Concise Remarks: A� 0a=r "4t A 7' 7hiS in _ 2_-V _CFS / / City Planner Parks Department (Residential Applications only) Gen - 26 PP/FP/PFP - 30 AZ,- 27 � C�wED OCT 2 6 2000 CITY OF MERIDIAN RECEIVED 0 C T 2 3 2000 Meridian Citv Water Superintendent MAYOR Robert D. Come CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS Ron Anderson Keith Bird Tammy deWeerd Cherie McCandless HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY 0 A Good Place to Live 16 CITY OF MERIDIAN 33 EAST IDAHO MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 - Fax (208) 887-4813 City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 LEGAL DEPARTMENT (208) 288-2499 - Fax 288-2501 PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING DEPARTMENT (208) 887-2211 - Fax 887-1297 PLANNINoa,AND ZONING DENT (208)884- 88-6854 QC �� TRANSMITTALS TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT P900)!WS ?,nOQ WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations will be considered by the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk, by: November 7, 2000 Transmittal Date: October 5, 2000 Hearing Date: November 14, 2000 File No.: PP 00-019 Request: Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 13 building lots and 3 other lots on 7.88 acres for proposed The Meridian Greens No. 4 By: Fuller -Scott Investment Company / Glenco Location of Property or Project: northwest and northeast corner of SE 5th and Overland Sally Norton, P/Z Bill Nary, P/Z Thomas Barbeiro, P/Z Richard Hatcher, P/Z Keith Borup, P/Z Robert Come, Mayor Ron Anderson, C/C Tammy deWeerd, C/C Keith Bird, C/C Cherie McCandless, C/C Water Department Sewer Department Sanitary Service Building Department Fire Department Police Department City Attorney City Engineer City Planner Parks Department (Residential Applications only) Meridian School District Meridian Post Office (FP/PP) Ada County Highway District Community Planning Assoc. Central District Health Nampa Meridian Irrig. District Settlers Irrigation District Idaho Power Co. (FP/PP) U.S. West (FP/PP) Intermountain Gas (FP/PP) Ada County (Annexation) Idaho Transportation Department Your Concise Remarks: /D ` Z, --C o Gen - 26 PP/FP/PFP - 30 AZ - 27 -)�§ 6LkPL-4:�'-- A MAYOR Robert D. Come CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS Ron Anderson Keith Bird Tammy deWeerd Cherie McCandless HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY 0 A Good Place to Live 16 CITY OF MERIDIAN 33 EAST IDAHO MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 • Fax (208) 887-4813 City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 LEGAL DEPARTMENT (208)288-2499 - Fax 288-2501 PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING DEPARTMENT (208)887-2211• Fax 887-1297 PLANNING AND ZONING v NT 2 8 188M%�$'�8-6854 uC 12 3 ZOp� (� City o f TRANSMITTALS TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVEL046 WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations will be considered by the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk, by: November 7, 2000 Transmittal Date: October 5, 2000 Hearing Date: November 14, 2000 File No.: PP 00-019 Request: Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 13 building lots and 3 other lots on 7.88 acres for proposed The Meridian Greens No. 4 By: Fuller -Scott Investment Company / Glenco Location of Property or Project: northwest and northeast corner of SE 5th and Overland Sally Norton, P/Z Bill Nary, P/Z Thomas Barbeiro, P/Z Richard Hatcher, P/Z Keith Borup, P/Z Robert Come, Mayor Ron Anderson, C/C Tammy deWeerd, C/C Keith Bird, C/C Cherie McCandless, C/C Water Department Sewer Department Sanitary Service Building Department Fire Department _(Police Department City Attorney City Engineer City Planner Parks Department (Residential Applications onry) Meridian School District Meridian Post Office (FP/PP) Ada County Highway District Community Planning Assoc. Central District Health Nampa Meridian Irrig. District Settlers Irrigation District Idaho Power Co. (FP/PP) U.S. West (FP/PP) Intermountain Gas (FP/PP) Ada County (Annexation) Idaho Transportation Department Gen - 26 PP/FP/PFP - 30 AZ - 27 1 MAYOR Rohcrt D. Corne CITY COUNCIL .MEMBERS Ron Anderson Keith Bird Tammy JeWeerd Chane McCandless 2088885052 a SANITARY HUB OF TREASURE VALLE SERVICE Y it A Good Place to Live CITY OF MERIDIAN 33 EAST IDAHO MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 - Fax (208) 887-4813 City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 PAGE 08 LEGAL DEP.iRTMENT (208) 233-2490 - Fax 283.2501 PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING DEPARTMENT (208) 587-2211 - Fax 887.1297 PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT (208)884-553;- Fax 888.6851 TRANSMITTALS TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations will be considered by the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk, by: November 7, 2000 Transmittal Date: October 5, 2000 Hearing Date: November 14, 2000 File No.: PP 00-019 Request: Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 13 building lots and 3 other lots on 7.88 acres for proposed The Meridian Greens No 4 By: Fuller -Scott Investment Company / Glenco Location of Property or Project: northwest and northeast corner of SE 5th and Overland Sally Norton, P/Z Bill Nary, P/Z Thomas Barbeiro, P/Z Kichard Hatcher, P/Z Keith Borup, P/Z Robert Corrie, Mayor Ron Anderson, C/C Tammy deWeerd, C/C Keith Bird. C/C Cherie McCandless, C/C Water Department Sewer Department K Sanitary Service Building Department Fire Department Police Department City Attorney City Engineer Meridian School District Meridian Post Off-- Ada ff -Ada County Highway District Community Planning Assoc. Central District Health Nampa Meridian Irrig. District Settlers Irrigation District Idaho Power Co. (FP/PP) U.S. West (FP/PP) Intermountain Gas (FP/PP) Ada County (Annexation) Idaho Transportation Department Your Concise Remarks: ✓ 7` City Planner Parks Department (Residential Applications only) Gen • 28 PPrPPtPPP .30 AZ. 27 R,]EcEzvED NOV - 321100 CITY OF AE RMUN NOV 03 100 10:06 2088885052 PAGE.08 RECEIVED • �� OCT 3.L2000 2000 CITY CLERK OFFICE i 1503 FIRST STREET SOUTH NAMPA, IDAHO 83651-4395 FAX # 208-463-0092 Phones: Area Code 208 October 25, 2000 OFFICE: Nampa 466-7861 SHOP: Nampa 466-0663 Will Berg, City Clerk Meridian City Hall 33 East Idaho Meridian, ID 83642 Re: PP-00-019 Preliminary Plat approval for proposed Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 Dear Commissioners: The Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District's Eightmile Lateral courses along the east boundary of the above-mentioned proposed project. Any encroachments within the easement of the Eightmile Lateral without written approval are unacceptable. All storm drainage must be retained on site. Sincerely, Bill Henson, Asst. Water Superintendent NAMPA & MERIDIAN IRRIGATION DISTRICT BH: dln Cc: File — Shop File — Office Water Superintendent APPROXIMATE IRRIGABLE ACRES RIVER FLOW RIGHTS - 23,000 BOISE PROJECT RIGHTS - 40,000 �r it OF TREASURE VALLEY ^°PARTMENT MAYOR Robert D. Corrie A Good Place to Live6 T� 2 ^Q9-2501 CITY OF MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS . Ron Anderson 33 EAST IDAHO Keith Bird MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 (208) 888-4433 • Fax (208) 887-4813 Tammy de Weerd �� Cherie McCandless City Clerk Office Fax (208) 888-4218 Nd 3 ;4 TRANSMITTALS TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations will be considered by the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk, by: November 7, 2000 Transmittal Date: October 5, 2000 Hearing Date: File No.: PP 00-019 November 14, 2000 Request: Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 13 building lots and 3 other lots on 7.88 acres for proposed The Meridian Greens No. 4 By: Fuller -Scott Investment Company / Glenco Location of Property or Project: northwest and northeast corner of SE 5th and Overland Sally Norton, P/Z Bill Nary, P/Z Thomas Barbeiro, P/Z Richard Hatcher, P/Z Keith Borup, P/Z Robert Corrie, Mayor Ron Anderson, C/C Tammy deWeerd, C/C Keith Bird, C/C Cherie McCandless, C/C Water Department -Sewer Department Sanitary Service Building Department Fire Department Police Department City Attorney City Engineer City Planner Parks Department (Reside Gen - 26 PP/FPIPFP - 30 AZ .27 Meridian School District Meridian Post Office (FP/PP) Ada County Highway District Community Planning Assoc. Central District Health Nampa Meridian Irrig. District Settlers Irrigation District Idaho Power Co. (FP/PP) U.S. West (FP/PP) Intermountain Gas (FP/PP) Ada County (Annexation) Idaho Transportation Department REc N 0 V - 1 2000 CITY OF MERIDIAN CENTRAL CC11 •DISTRICT RHEALTH DEPARTMENT Rezone # Conditional Use # CENTRODISTRICT HEALTH DE Environmental Health Division E�hZ �nM•M . K, 2w NO.3 Preliminary / Final / Short Plat �� — 6 0 ACZ /C 0 Star 01. We have No Objections to this Proposal. O C T 2 6 2000 Cl 2. We recommend Denial of this Proposal. CITY OF MERIDIAN 0 3. Specific knowledge as to the exact type of use must be provided before we can comment on this Proposal. 0 4. We will require more data concerning soil conditions on this Proposal before we can comment. 0 5. Before we can comment concerning individual sewage disposal, we will require more data concerning the depth of: ❑ high seasonal ground water ❑ waste flow characteristics ❑ or bedrock from original grade ❑ other 0 6. This office will require a study to assess the impact of nutrients and pathogens to receiving ground waters and/or surface waters. ❑ 7. This project shall be reviewed by the Idaho Department of Water Resources concerning well construction and water availability. & After writNiyapproval from appropriate entities are submitted, we can approve this proposal for: central sewage ❑ community sewage system ❑ community water well ❑ interim sewage central water ❑ individual sewage individual water 9. The following plan(s) must be submitted to and approved by the Idaho Department of Health & Welfare, Division of vironmental Quality: central sewage ❑ community sewage system ❑ community water ❑ sewage dry lines 14 central water 10. Run-off is not to create a mosquito breeding problem. 011. This Department would recommend deferral until high seasonal ground water can be determined if other considerations indicate approval. 012. If restroom facilities are to be installed, then a sewage system MUST be installed to meet Idaho State Sewage Regulations. ❑ 13. We will require plans be submitted for a plan review for any: ❑ food establishment ❑ swimming pools or spas ❑ child care center ❑ beverage establishment ❑ grocery store 14. '06 c o,-- " -k uDate: X11- l Gb 14_;;1'_1A4C AZAV Reviewed By: Review Sheet CDWSWf yCENTRAL !Tff • DISTRICT HEALTH DEPARTMENT MAIN OFFICE • 707 N. ARMSTRONG PL • BOISE, ID 83704-0825 - (208) 375-5'.11 - FAX 32'-a�u0 To prevent and treat disease and disability; to promote healthy lifestyles; and to protect and promote the health and quality 9f our environment STORM WATER MANAGEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS It is recommended that storm water be pre-treated through a grassy swale prior to discharge to the subsurface to prevent impact to ground water and surface water quality. The engineers and architects involved with the design of this project should obtain current best management practices for storm water disposal and design a storm water management system that is preventing groundwater and surface water degradation. Manuals that could be used for guidance are: State of Idaho Catalog of Stormwater Best Management Practices For Idaho Cities and Counties. Prepared by the Idaho Division of Environmental Quality, July 1997. Stormwater Best Management Practices Guidebook. Prepared by City of Boise Public Works Department, January 1997. Ada / Boise County Office 707 N. Armsrong PI. Boise, ID 83704 Enviro. Health: 327-7499 Family Planning: 327-7400 Immunizations: 327-7450 Senior Nutrition: 327-7460 vviC. 327-7488 FAX: 327-8500 Serving Valley, Elmore, Boise, and Ada Counties Ada -WIC Satellite Office 1606 Robert St. Boise, ID 83705 Ph. 334-3355 FAX: 334-3355 Elmore County Office 520 E. 8th Street N. Mountain Home, ID 83647 Enviro. Health: 587-9225 Family Health: 587-4407 WIC: 587-4409 FAX: 587-3521 Valley County Office 703 N. 1 st Street P.O. Box 1448 McCall, ID, 83638 Ph. 634-7194 FAX: 634-2174 Mr. William Berg, Jr. City Clerk City of Meridian 33 East Idaho St. Meridian, Idaho 83642 Dear William, Is ;L Ceecu." - 0 IV. 14 / pop PXcElvEID N 0V 14 2000 CITY OF MERIDIAN November 4, 2000 I received the notice that on November 14th the P & Z will be holding a public hearing on the Meridian Greens No. 4. 1 will be out of town on that date, but would Eke to make my input known due to my property being adjacent to the new houses, if approved. I have seen and read the proposal which stated the minimum size and value of the houses. Single level 2,000 sq.ft, two story 2,400 sq. ft.. Minimum selling price of $250,000. If the above is still included in the proposal, I will support it with total agreement. If not, I would also like to use the letter to file my disapprovement. Thank you. Sin /40�uglas V. /H�� 1806 S.E. 5th Way Meridian, ID 83642 888-7434 0 FILE COPY BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MERIDIAN IN THE MATTER OF THE REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION BY: SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO APPLICANT CIC 12-19-00 Case No. PP -00-019 FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT The above entitled matter coming on regularly for public hearing before the City Council on December 19, 2000, and Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator, appeared and testified, and appearing and testifying was the Applicant, and no one appeared in opposition, and the City Council having received a report from Bruce Freckleton, Engineering Technician III, and Brad Hawkins -Clark, Planner, and the City Council having received as part of the record of this matter the recommendation to City Council of the Planning and Zoning Commission and the applicant having submitted the "Preliminary Plat Drawing: PRELIM-PLAT.DWG, Job No.: 00045, Date: 11/9/00 and stamped "Received by City of Meridian City Cleric Office NOV 09 2000, SHEET 1 of 1, Civil Survey Consultants, Inc., Engineers, for Meridian Greens No. 4," submitted for preliminary plat approval and which FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION / (PP -00-019) - 1 preliminary plat for approval application is herein received and adjudged by the City Council pursuant to Meridian City Code § 12-3-3. Therefore the City Council makes the following findings: FINDINGS OF FACT That the proposed development is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan by reason of the fact that it lies within the existing Urban Area as defined in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan Generalized Land Use Map, Infrastructure Planning Analysis Comprehensive Plan and Map, adopted December 21, 1993, and the property is presently zoned Low Density Residential District (R- 4), and requires connection to the Municipal Water and Sewer System. [Meridian City Code § 11-7-2 C.] 2. The preliminary plat is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan, City of Meridian, adopted December 21, 1993, Ordinance No. 629. 3. It is determined that urban services can be made available to accommodate the proposed development if the plat complies with the requirements and conditions hereinafter set forth as conditions of preliminary plat approval. 4. The proposed development is a continuity of the proposed development within the City's Capital Improvement Program and if the conditions which are requested by the Planning and Zoning Administrator and the Assistant City Engineer FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION / (PP -00-019) - 2 and as proposed by the developer as stated on the preliminary plat there will be public financial capability of supporting services for the proposed development. 5. The development, if built in accordance with the conditions and as proposed, will not create health, safety or environmental problems and there have been no specifics of any such concerns brought to the Council's attention. 6. It is found that the Recommendation To City Council of the Planning and Zoning Commission is reasonable and appropriate for the conditions of approval of the preliminary plat as hereinafter set forth. 7. The applicant has submitted for consideration of this approval drawing of the preliminary plat herein designated as: "Preliminary Plat Drawing: PRELIM- PLAT.DWG, Job No.: 00045, Date: 11/9/00 and stamped "Received by City of Meridian City Clerk Office NOV 09 2000, SHEET 1 of 1, Civil Survey Consultants, Inc., Engineers, for Meridian Greens No. 4," DECISION AND ORDER Pursuant to the City Council's authority as provided in Meridian City Code § 12-3-5 and based upon the above and foregoing Findings of Fact which are herein adopted: IT IS HEREBY ORDERED AND THIS DOES ORDER 1. The Preliminary Plat of the applicant as evidenced by "Preliminary Plat FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION / (PP -00-019) - 3 Drawing: PRELIM-PLAT.DWG, Job No.: 00045, Date: 11/9/00 and stamped "Received by City of Meridian City Clerk Office NOV 09 2000, SHEET 1 of 1, Civil Survey Consultants, Inc., Engineers, for Meridian Greens No. 4," is hereby conditionally approved; and 2. The conditions of approval are as follows to -wit: Adopt the Planning and Zoning Administrator and the Engineering Technician III Recommendations as follows: 2.1 Sanitary sewer and water service to this site shall be via extensions from existing mains installed through the proposed subdivision in SE 5th Street. Subdivision designer to coordinate main sizing and routing with the Public Works Department. Sewer manholes are to be provided to keep the sewer lines on the south and west sides of the centerline. 2.2 Lots 1-5, Block 2 are impacted by an irrigation easement. The Applicant is .proposing to allow each lot owner to utilize the rear 40 feet of these five lots for landscaping, which would be consistent with other Meridian Greens lots further south. Typically, Staff recommends all irrigation easements be platted as common lots and fenced, especially when the lateral is not piped and there are potential hazards. However, to remain consistent with other Meridian Greens lots, Staff could support inclusion of the irrigation easement in the lots. The Commission and Council approved this option, the Applicant shall provide a copy of the executed encroachment agreement with Nampa -Meridian Irrigation District, indicating how the land underlying these easements may be used, prior to City signature on the final plat. If encroachment of the Eightmile Lateral is not granted, this 40 -foot easement area shall be removed from the building lots and platted as a common lot. 2.3 Underground pressurized irrigation shall be provided to all landscape areas on site. Due to the landscape area, primary water supply connection to the City's mains shall not be allowed. Applicant shall be required to utilize any existing surface or well water for the primary FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION / (PP -00-019) - 4 source. The preliminary plat map indicates that the existing P.I. system that borders the eastern boundary of the subdivision be utilized as the primary source. Applicant has indicated that the pressurized irrigation system within this development is to be owned and maintained by the Meridian Greens Homeowners Association. Under this scenario, plans and specifications for the irrigation system shall be reviewed by the Public Works Department as part of the development plan review process. A draft copy of the pressurized irrigation system O S& M manual must be submitted prior to plan approval. 2.4 The Applicant is proposing that a 10 -foot -strip of the City's well lot at the NE corner of the subdivision be dedicated to ACHD for a right -turn lane on to Overland. A legal description for this 10 -foot -strip was submitted with the application. The Developer has stated that the City had indicated a willingness to dedicate the 10 -foot -strip. The City Engineer and Public Works Director have both told staff that this is not the case, and that they are not willing to let the strip of land go. Staff recommends that SE 5``' be re -aligned to utilize the developers own land on the west side to provide the necessary width for the intersection design. 2.5 The length of the entry island (Lot 1, Block 3) shall be modified to provide for access into the City's well site from both directions of travel, ie. the south end of the island needs to be north of the driveway leading into the site. 2.6 There appears to be a discrepancy between the Ada County Assessor's basemap and the legal description describing the boundaries of the subject parcel. The Assessor's map shows that the City's well lot eastern boundary does not extend to the centerline of Eightmile lateral and that the 40 -foot NMID irrigation easement on the east end of this well lot is within the Applicant's parcel. However, the preliminary plat shows the City owning the land all the way to the centerline. The Applicant shall verify the correct boundaries of the subject parcel in this NE corner and modify plat to exclude the 80' easement. The boundary description shall be amended on Sheet 2 of the Final Plat and the Certificate of Owners, to reflect the change. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION/ (PP -00-019) - 5 2.7 Lot 1, Block 2 does not have direct lot access to SE 5th Way or a cross access easement. This has been modified to demonstrate how this lot will access the public street and provide evidence that ACHD has reviewed and approved of the access point. Staff recommends the access be located on the southern half of the lot. 2.8 Since SE 5th Way is designated as a Collector, Applicant shall add a note to the plat that the front yard building setback for Lots 1-5, Block 2 is a minimum of 30 feet, per Zoning Ordinance 11-9-1. 2.9 The plat shows the Overland Road landscape buffer and both the east and west SE 5th Way landscape buffers as within landscape easements. The Planning and Zoning Commission recommends that the Developer be given the option of either placing this buffer in an easement or on a common lot. Since the eastern SE 5th Way landscape buffer is part of the front yards and these five lots will take primary access off of SE 5th Way, Staff supports platting this eastern landscape buffer within an easement. Developer to provide the City with a landscape plan with all of the landscape areas, including the landscape easement on the west side, prior to approval of final plat. 2.10 A solid, 6 -foot fence is required along the north boundary of Lot 5, Block 2 (except within the 20 -foot landscape buffer), to separate the City well lot from this residential lot. A wrought iron fence is constructed along the eastern boundary of Eightmile Lateral in Hunts Bluff Subdivision. Staff encourages the Developer to consider similar construction in Meridian Greens #4 Subdivision, Lots 1-5, Block 2. Developer requests that they be allowed to consider landscaping to the waterline in a separate easement. 2.11 The Applicant has stated that the large, mature trees along Overland Road will be preserved and incorporated into the landscape plans. This shall be a condition of the development. 2.12 A detailed landscape plan for the common areas, including fencing locations and types of construction, shall be submitted for review and approval with the submittal of the final plat application. The plan shall include sizes and species of trees, shrubs, berm and swale details, and all FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION / (PP -00-019) - 6 proposed ground cover/treatment. No fencing will be permitted within the required landscape buffers. Also, no evergreen trees will be permitted within the clear vision triangle areas at the intersections of public roads and driveways. A letter of credit or cash surety in the amount of 110% will be required for all fencing, landscaping, pressurized irrigation, sanitary sewer, water, etc., prior to signature on the Final Plat. Perimeter fencing shall be installed prior to obtaining building permits. 2.13 Submit letter from the Ada County Street Name Committee, approving the subdivision and street names with the final plat application. Make any corrections necessary to conform. 2.14 Coordinate fire hydrant placement with the City of Meridian Public Works Department. 2.15 Provide five -foot -wide sidewalks in accordance with City Ordinance 12- 5-2.K. 2.16 All construction shall conform to the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act. 2.17 Any existing irrigation/drainage ditches crossing the property to be included in this project shall be tiled per City Ordinance No. 12-4-13, except as provided for under site specific requirements. The ditches to be piped shall be shown on the site plans. Plans will need to be approved by the appropriate irrigation/drainage district, with written confirmation of said approval submitted to the Public Works Department. 2.18 Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project.will have to be removed from their domestic service per City Ordinance. Wells may be used for non-domestic purposes such as landscape irrigation. 2.19 Two -hundred -fifty and one -hundred watt, high-pressure sodium streetlights will be required at locations designated by the Public Works Department. All streetlights shall be installed at subdivider's expense. Typical locations are at street intersections and/or fire hydrants. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION / (PP -00-019) - 7 2.20 Indicate on the final plat map any FEMA Flood Plains affecting the area being platted, and detail plans for reducing or eliminating the boundary. 2.21 Developer shall enter into an agreement with the homeowner's association to specifically address pipe sizing, designing a "looped" system, increasing pumping capacity, and other concerns of the P.I. system addressed in Harmon Avera's October S, 2000 letter to the City Council. By action of the City Council at its regular meeting held on the 2'�o day of �a-7," , 2001. ROLL CALL COUNCILMAN ANDERSON VOTED 4�-- COUNCILMAN BIRD VOTED COUNCILWOMAN deWEERD VOTED4�_ COUNCILWOMAN McCANDLESS VOTED4� MAYOR ROBERT D. C E (TIE BREAKER) VOTED Copy served upon Applicant, the Planning and Zoning Department, Public Works Department and City Attorney.Orr a By: Dated: ity Clerk GZAL msg/Z:\Work\M\Meridian\Meridian 15360M\MeridianGreens4 PP019\FfC1s0rd.PP FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW AND ORDER OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY PLAT SCOTT -FULLER INVESTMENTS / GLENCO, FOR MERIDIAN GREENS NO. 4 SUBDIVISION / (PP -00-019) - 8 RECORDED - R UEST O 0 ADA COUNTY RECORDER � 1. DAVID NAVARRO �... �� F CIDEPU T'( BEFORE THE MERIDIAN CITY COL-'—" 19,9 MY 27 PM 1:49 ;17 99053460 In the Matter of the REQUEST ) Case No. VAC -99-002 FOR VACATION OF ) EASEMENT BETWEEN LOTS 8 ) ORDER GRANTING CITY AND 9 OF BLOCK 8 OF ) APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR MERIDIAN GREENS ) VACATION OF EASEMENT SUBDIVISION BY CHARLES ) BETWEEN LOTS 8 AND 9 OF FULLER ) BLOCK 8 OF MERIDIAN GREENS, UNIT NO. 3 This matter coming on regularly before the City Council at its regular meeting on the 18`" day of May, 1999, and Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator, testified and having presented the Recommendation to the City Council of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and Glen Bennett appeared and testified on behalf of the Applicant, and no objection having been received makes the following Findings of Fact and Decision and Order: FINDINGS 1. The easement is between Lots 8 and 9 of Block 8 and is located at Meridian Greens Subdivision, Unit No.3 in Meridian, Idaho. 2. The owner of record of the subject property is Glenco Development of P.O. Box 851, Meridian, Idaho 83680. 3. The Applicant is Charles Fuller of P.O. Box 851, Meridian, Idaho ORDER GRANTING CITY APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR VACATION OF THE EASEMENT BETWEEN LOTS 8 AND 9 OF BLOCK 8 OF MERIDIAN GREENS SUBDIVISION BY CHARLES FULLER - 1 • • 4. The subject property is currently zoned Low Density Residential District (R-4). The zoning of Low Density Residential District (R-4) is defined within the City of Meridian's Zoning and Development Ordinance Section 11-2-408(B)(3). 5. The proposed site of the requested easement vacation is between Lots 8 and 9 Block 8 of the Meridian Greens Subdivision. 6. The subject property is within the city limits of the City of Meridian. 7. The entire parcel of the property is included within the Meridian Urban Service Planning Area as the Urban Service Planning Area is defined in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan. 8. The Applicant requests the easement vacation between Lots 8 and 9 of Block 8 in order to allow an adjacent lot owner to purchase a portion of Lot 8, thus increasing the size of their adjacent lot. 9. There are no significant or scenic features of major importance that affect the consideration of this application. 10. The applicant obtained notarized approval of the easement vacation from affected utilities. 11. That no public interest will be served by denying the Applicant's request for vacation of the easement between Lots 8 and 9 of Block 8 of Meridian ORDER GRANTING CITY APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR VACATION OF THE EASEMENT BETWEEN LOTS 8 AND 9 OF BLOCK 8 OF MERIDIAN GREENS SUBDIVISION BY CHARLES FULLER - 2 Greens Subdivision. DECISION AND ORDER NOW, THEREFORE, BASED UPON THE ABOVE AND FOREGOING FINDINGS IT IS HEREBY ORDERED AND THIS DOES ORDER THAT: The City of Meridian does hereby grant its approval of the vacation of the easement between Lots 8 and 9 of Block 8 of Meridian Greens Subdivision, Unit No. 3, situated in the E1/2 W1/2 and the SWI/4 NE 1/4 Sec. 19, T3N, RIE, BM, City of Meridian, Ada County, Idaho. 2. This approval is subject to and dependant upon the applicant filing the appropriate petition for the vacation of this easement and receiving an Order of the Ada County Highway District whose jurisdiction on this matter is referenced in I.C. § 50-1325 and pursuant to I.C. § 40-203. By action of the City Council at its regular meeting held on May 18, 1999. By:L,'60- . ;-/, 71, q�OME-R-T- D. CORRIE ayor, City of Meridian Copy served upon Applicant, the Planning and Zoning Department and the Public Works Department. n 4 By: Dated: City Clerk msg/ZAWor1,\M\Meridian 15360M\Fuller Vac\OrderVacFFCLEasmts ORDER GRANTING CITY APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR VACATION OF THE EASEMENT BETWEEN LOTS 8 AND 9 OF BLOCK 8 OF MERIDIAN GREENS SUBDIVISION BY CHARLES FULLER - 3 • STATE OF IDAHO,) ss. County of Ada. ) • On this day of Uma",, 1999, before me, the under signed, a Notary Public in and for said State, personally appeared ROBERT D. CORRIE and WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., known to me to be the Mayor and City Cleric of the CITY of Meridian, Idaho, and who executed the within instrument, and acknowledged to me that the City of Meridian executed the same. IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal the day and year first above written. lalvalq� o•° G$L L. s�ia � SEpTARy •� NOTA&Y PUBLIC FO IDAHO * ; _ * : RESIDING AT: I� MY COMMISSION EXPIRES: • -P U B 1,Z �•` •,,o�l'E OF INq,'0 msg/Z:\N4"kW;eian 15360M\Fuller Vac\OrderVacFFCLEasmts ORDER GRANTING CITY APPROVAL OF REQUEST FOR VACATION OF THE EASEMENT BETWEEN LOTS 8 AND 9 OF BLOCK 8 OF MERIDIAN GREENS SUBDIVISION BY CHARLES FULLER - 4 Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission February 10, 1998 Page 13 ITEM #5: TABLED JANUARY 13,1998: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 4,20 LOTS BY FULLER SCOTT INVESTMENT CO. — NE OF MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 1: ITEM #6: TABLED JANUARY 13,1998: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 4 BY FULLER SCOTT INVESTMENT CO. — NE OF MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 1: Johnson: Item numbers five and six are withdrawn to repeat my earlier statement, by the applicant. And we have a letter to that affect which is part of the record. The letter comes from Don Carnahan who's a public engineer addressed to Shari Stiles Planning and Zoning Administrator on behalf of Fuller Scott Investment Company for the Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 we would like to withdraw the application for the referenced projects sincerely that's the extent of the letter. We'll move on to item number seven. Do we need to take any other action on that or is that sufficient? Prior: In regards to item number five — Johnson: -- should we have a motion to accept the application withdrawal or that necessary? Prior: I don't think that's necessary. ITEM #7: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT BY STEINER DEVELOPMENT — NW OF CHERRY LANE VILLAGE NO. 1: Johnson: You have these Findings of Fact before you, are there any comments, any corrections, deletions or additions to the Findings of Fact as prepared by the City Attorney? No one has any comments, perhaps someone has a motion? Smith: Mr. Chairman, the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions. I'd like to make a motion to that affect. Prior: Just a point of order, we need to make a motion. Smith: I'd like to make a motion that the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions. Nelson: Second. Invoice Invoice Number. 98-122 Date: May 12,1998 Uty of Meridian 33 Fast Idaho Meridian, ID 83642 (208)888-4433 Fax: (208)887-4813 To: Mail to (if different address): FULLER SCOTT INVESTMENT COMPANY P.O. BOX 851 MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83680 QTY. DESCRIPTION UNIT PRICE TOTAL I legal Notice for Preliminary Plat Meridian Greens No. 4 @ P & Z 60.50 60.50 I Legal Notice for Conditional Use Permit Meridian Greens No. 4 @ P & Z 57.75 57.15 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 SUBTOTAL TOTAL DUE 118.25 $118.25 ey NewS, P.O. Boxqp, Meridian, Idaho 83680 Affidavit of Publi4ktion STATE OF IDAHO COUNTY OF ADA } ss. NOTICE OF HEARING TITLE OF PUBLICATION CITY OF MERIDIAN, IDAHO PLAINTIFF OR LEGAL AGENT Scott Crosby bemn • Copy of Notice (First Copy) NOTICE OF HEARING NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN pursuant to the Ordinances of the City of Meridi- an and the Laws of State of Idaho, that the Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Meridian will hold a public hearing at the Meridian city Hall, 33 East Idaho Street, Meridian, Idaho, at the hour of 7:00 pm, on January 13, 1998, for the purpose of reviewing and considering the Application of Fuller Scott Investment Co., for a Preliminary Plat for land located in the NE 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of Section 19, T.3N, RAE, Boise Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, and which property is generally located Northeast of Meridian Greens Unit No. 1. deposes and says: The applicant requests Preliminary Plat approval of the parcel of land above That I am the Managing Editor of VALLEY described for 20 residential dwelling lots for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4. weekly newspaper published at Meridian, in the County of Ada A more particular legal description of the above property is on file in the City Idaho; that said newspaper has been and is in general circulatio Clerk's office at. Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho Street, and is available for inspec- aforesaid, and in the vicinity of Meridian; that the advertisemer tion during regular business hours. is attached hereto, was published in said newspaper once a wee A copy of the Application is available upon request. Any and all interested persons consecutive weeks in the regular and entire issue of said I shall be heard at said public hearing and the public is welcome and invited to submit period and time of publication, and was published in the newsp testimony. not a supplement; that said paper has been established and regu DATED this 23rd day of December, 1997. more than seventy-eight consecutive weeks prior to the date of /s/William G. Berg, Jr. WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. said advertisement. CITY CLERK 1997 and January 9, 1998 Such notice was published in the issue beginning with De L -388M December 26, _ 1997 and ending with the issue of January 9 1998 �4 STATE OF IDAHO P COUNTY OF ADA On this 23 th day of January in the year of 1998 before me, a Notary Public, personally appeared Scot Crosby known or identified to me to be the person whose name subscribed to the within instrument, and being by me first duly sworn, declared that the statements therein are true, and acknowledged to me that he/she executed the same. +� �``".:.••.;K ''�,y�� otary ublic for Idaho • 'R = �0TAY _ Residing at � • pUB1A Qmj3 ission expires �' 11 ( Z003 ^F " STATEMENT Valley News Meridian, Idaho Number of Lines ................ 22 Lines Number of Insertions ............. 2 22 Lines @ S 1.50 , , , , , ,$ 33.00 22 Lines @ 1.25 .....$ 27.50 TOTAL COST WILL BE .....................$ 60.50 NO. L-388 M MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING: February 10, 1998 APPLICANT: FULLER SCOTT INVESTMENT CO. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER: 5 REQUEST: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 4, 20 LOTS AGENCY COMMENTS CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY: CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE: CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: All f� sk /t Z�G nted at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. Feb 05,1998 12:24PM FROM Civil Survey Consultants 0 Glenn K. Bennett, P.L.S. President Timothy A. Burgcss, P.E. Vice President TO 98874813 0 Civil Survey Consultants, Inc. P.O. Box 39 1530 W, State Street Meridian, Idaho 83680 Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator City of Meridian 33 E. Idaho Avenue Meridian, Idaho 83634 Re: Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 Dear Shari: P.01 (208)8884312 Fax 888-0323 February 3, 1998 RECED REB - 5 1998 CITY OF MERIMAN On behalf of Fuller / Scott Investment Company for The Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 we would like to withdraw the application for the referenced project. Sincerely, Civil Survey Consultants ),g oY� &'L'V� Donn Carnahan, PE CC: Fuller / Scott Investment Company FEB 05 '98 11:28 TOTAL P.01 208 888 0323 PAGE.01 Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission January 13, 1998 Page 23 MOTION CARRIED: All Yea Johnson: Some of you late arrivals we had a little discourse earlier on about Eagle Partners application, the last two items on the agenda, does anybody not know what I said there or would like clarification? We are going to open that public hearing as scheduled because we are obligated to do so. The applicant was here they are not prepared to make a presentation based on the fact they can't proceed or can't see any sense in proceeding because the Idaho Department of Transportation and ACHD have not arrived at a conclusion for the site for the traffic signal. So we also have a request from the homeowners association for a deferral of this item as well. It would be my supposition that when that item comes and we open the public hearing we will take whatever testimony you want to present tonight, there will a brief or no presentation by the applicant and that item will be tabled until our next meeting on February 10th. So that is just for your information in the event you didn't want to hang around until the middle of the night. -- ITEM #9: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 4,20 LOTS BY FULLER SCOTT INVESTMENT CO. — NE OF MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 1: Johnson: I will now open this public hearing and invite the applicant or the applicant's representative to address the Commission. Don Carnihan, 1530 W. State Street, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Carnihan: Council if I may can I put some poster boards up? Johnson: Yes we would like you to, if you could position those as best you can so that both the Commissioners and the audience can see that I would appreciate it. Before we begin I am sure you are aware that any material used in the presentation remains here. Carnihan: First I would like to start off by introducing the project. As I said my name is Don Carnihan I am with Civil Survey Consultants and I represent Fuller Scott Development for this Meridian Greens Unit No. 4. This is a 7.2 acre plan development residential and as originally proposed it consists of 20 lots, 18 of which are residential. This is situated South of Overland Road, at the intersection of SE 5th Way. It is bordered on the south by other units of Meridian Greens to the east by Hunts Bluff and to the North by the Caterpillar Equipment dealership. The current zoning for this parcel is R-4 and the reason that we have requested this as a PDR is because of the landscaping and the alley way arrangement. These are the two main components of this project. I would like to start with the first one, the first reason for this development is to take the existing entrance into the Meridian Greens Units and to improve on those. The way that we would do that would be with the 20 foot landscaped areas. There would be one in front of the frontage of Overland Road and then both sides of SE 5th Way. This would be done with landscape with flowering plants and bushes with a mixture with lawn Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission January 13, 1998 Page 24 ized and keystone walls. The existing trees along the OverlandRoad. will b Ian. We have prepared alandscape plan and put in with the landscape p that shows some of the ideas. This is Overland R t cda, n Eive you any t any bet eridea. The of the plantings and the walls and the sod. If that 9 other second reason for this subdivision is to provide s doenot come off erent product o residential l home buyers and that is as you can see the driveway taken right of way. They instead have the alley way concepthtaccess s mprobehi ent on nd the homes. We think that this development will be very compatible the existing Meridian Greens houses that are there. The on being built n his r has come up with about three different house plans that he would anticipate envision development. In the covenants he has required that the 0 00. feet be 1700 feel thiswill f et or greater with a lot and home value of greater than $le an improvement on the existing homes that are out there. know there are some affect their property. So peopwe that are concerned about this development and how feel these houses will be very large, nice homes. Some of the lots a situation whae a little ler but the developer has had somutr maybest theor more of the yardsaaren't io home large and not as much houses are fairly large b Yconcept is a very good idea. We think maintenance required. We think this alley way that it eliminates the garages and the automobiles as the focal othernt of the house and project components thus enhancing the appearance of the neighborhood. and incorporate it into the are the Eight Mile Lateral. In order to build this alley way project we will need to use part of that easement that Nampa approximatelyan 180 additional tee. Traffic concerns for this development there should b ps per day. The SE 5"' Way is a residential collector . Theere shouldn't be very much culdesa at the end of Port impact to that road. Concerns for additional parking cO Maria Court 8 additional spaces for visitors that will ter existing ime to see n SE 5 heir friends. Way and this utilities and drainage there is already sewer and watalong the er development proposes to expand those services. The drainage disposal. lb And the pre utter to drop inlets into a (inaudible) box and then for subs previous phase and used for irrigation will be tied into a system that was built during a be an this. So just in summary I would like to say will mix well with el this development existing l ingusethat is excellent asset and benefit to Mer a will there. I would like to answer any questions. Johnson: Thank you very much, questions from the Commissioners? Commissioner Borup? Borup: A couple, I think I answered my one, covenants are required on how they access on all units is that correct? Carnihan: Yes, there will be in a plat they will restrictaccess off of the public right of way and will have to take access through the alley ways Borup: The other question is more of curiosity andprobaone on bly. First I oce fainly understand why you have the alley on the property one east, Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission January 13, 1998 Page 25 is designated a collector to the existing Meridian Greens or is 5th a collector all the way through this? Carnihan: I believe that SE 5th Way as it exists today is classified as a residential collector. Borup: 5th Way clear continue onto the south of the existing property? Carnihan: I believe so, I don't know when it changes. Borup: So on the existing the ACHD did not restrict drive ays on that collector then. Is that a requirement that they are looking at now at this p Carnihan: That was not a requirement for this but theyo re very 9co heli meatycollectoof this alley way set up because it does allow traffic to ore efficiently since traffic is going off at several places it is going to give off at one or two places only. Borup: A lot of times they will restrict no entry the (west ththere�oTher. hthought therequestion I uand ess on the property on the west, your section on (inaudible) for that alley way in that section. You have you wouldn'the same t even be ableeto see the 5th Way and actually access from the other street y garages from 5th Way. Are they just trying to be consistent with the whole thing? Carnihan: Yes, I believe the idea was to keep a consistent neighborhood 9 d somedl feeling the best kind of like I said the developers have several people thing is to call it a patio home. For the whole development to have the same not having ling. and not be disjointed by part of it having the alley way and P Borup: I was a little confused on the lot sizes. s on the ptatfaree ncluding the thm you were figuring with the alley in and without the alley.e lot s ze slialley is that correct? Carnihan: Well we originally I believe did not include they alley ways. Borup: I am referring to the square footage that is on your plat there presently, that includes the alley way in that square footage. Carnihan: Yes Borup: Have you had a chance to review ACHD's comments? Carnihan: Yes we have, no major difficulties. Borup: Even to the comment as far as eliminating the parking? Meridian Planning & Ag Commission • January 13, 1998 Page 26 Carnihan: Right, we originally had four additional sites in this common area and these sites are the ones that they were concerned about as well as Meridian's comments. So we will eliminate these four parking spaces and take care of both of those comments. Borup: And you are requested not having RV parking because of the size of the development. Carnihan: The covenants state that any RV vehicles must be kept in the garage or off site at a facility not associated with this development. Borup: Well that statement is somewhat tied in with the PUD. Carnihan: Yes it is in the package there in the covenants. Johnson: Commissioner Smith? Smith: Just following along on the lot size I am confused on that too. It looks like these lots on the west side are not only including the alley but they are also including the Eight Mile Lateral easement in each one of those parcels. Carnihan: Yes, the way the area (inaudible) as one of the comments to this proposal it has been requested that the Eight Mile Lateral be platted as a common open lot and that will change those lot sizes. Smith: And you would landscape that compatible with the rest of the development? Carnihan: Right now we are proposed to have a 24 foot paved roadway with like a rod iron fence that is similar to what exists across the Eight Mile Lateral along Hunts Bluff in that subdivision, it would be similar to that. Smith: I really like the concept of the auto access off the back side of the site and have personally been involved in some planning for a development in Boise that works off that same concept. I haven't really, I am not totally convinced that this particular parcel that way but one thing that kind of surprises me from a design standpoint is that we would come in and put all of the auto access and auto parking on the backsides of the lots and then right in the middle of the culdesac you have eight parking spaces in front. It is a contradiction, it is fighting your concept of the auto access around the back sides. If you look at a lot of the neighborhoods that work with this kind of concept like the North end and East end there are some driveways that access from the front but in all cases the garages are in the back of the property and most of them have access off the back. I would like to see you do some more studying as to how you actually approach this visitor parking here. We have a 50 foot right of way here that looks like it is Port Maria Court would be a 50 foot right of way street. Maybe there is a way to put a one hour or two hour time limit on street parking that would be used by visitors and residents would Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission January 13, 1998 Page 27 still have to park in the back. That way you discourage the auto clutter in the front but you still address the need that is going to be there for visitors coming in and finding a place to park. Unless you force them all to park in the back, this is just fighting the whole concept here of removing the automobile and garage from the front of the house. It looks like the typical one story and two story footprints have as generous as any other residential subdivision side yards, maybe not in this particular density but it doesn't look like it is real tight to me. I guess I would just like to see you try to work out that visitor parking a little differently. That was probably all of my comments at the moment. Johnson: Thank you, any response to that at the moment? Carnihan: No, I have no more response. Johnson: Is there anyone else that would like to come forward and comment on this application? Dennis Piper, 560 East Antigua Drive, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Piper: Commissioners I am a member of the Meridian Greens Homeowners Association and I am here representing the homeowners of this subdivision. I would like to present this letter to the Commissioners that we have drafted as a board committee. When Mr. Fuller approached us with this idea it was much smaller lots, they are ranging from 6500 to 8500 square feet. He has incorporated the alleys and other areas to make the lots appear larger. So that is kind of the changes that we have seen and we addressed to him that we oppose this development. The letter that I have given you is in reference to the preliminary plat and conditional use permit for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4. The Meridian Greens Homeowners Association board members representing over 200 homeowners would like to request that the preliminary plat approval and conditional use permit applied for by Fuller Scott Investment Company for the section of land described in their application as Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 be rejected for the following reasons. Number one, the proposed development would be constructed along one of Meridian Greens main entrances, SE 5t' Way. This would pose a serious safety hazard with vehicular traffic parking along the road. We understand the developer's intent to provide parking to the rear of the units. However we are convinced that this would not happen and that the owners and visitors would park along this main artery making passing traffic much more congested. The current homes have large driveways adjoining the road that allow visitors to park off the road. Item two, the proposed paved alley abuts its existing properties with established fences and landscaping. We believe that the alley adjoining these properties poses a potential hazard during inclimate weather. Vehicles negotiating the curves on slippery roads could damage the existing homeowners properties and will increase property insurance of those homeowners needlessly. We also believe the alley like most alleys will accumulate trash and debris resulting in unnecessary policing and unsightly appearance. Item three, this development would not enhance the adjoining properties and may decrease valuations. The smallest lot adjoining this proposed development is approximately 10,8000 square Meridian Planning & Zolling Commission • January 13, 1998 Page 28 feet with the remaining lots in excess of 12,000 square feet which I might add do not include alleys or other areas that are non-use. This development would impact the property values of these existing units due to the reduction in size of the surrounding properties. Homeowners strive to increase valuation not decrease. If these applications are approved we ask that the following items be included in this development. Number 1, the existing covenants of the homes adjoining this proposed development #8836653 recorded in Book 56 of plats at pages 5106 through 5108 records of Ada County, Idaho, July 25, 1988 should be included for this proposed development. The following sections within these convenants should be included as a minimum. A) Article 2, Section 4, last paragraph, the ground floor area of the main structure exclusive of open porches and garages shall not be less than 1700 square feet for a one story dwelling, nor less than a total of 2,000 square feet for a split level or a two story dwelling. B) Article 2, Section 4a, all buildings shall have wood shingles, wood shakes, tile roofs or any other roofing material product that may become available in the future would definitely need to be specifically approved by the Architectural Control Committee. C) Article 2, Section 4b, each dwelling building shall be provided with a minimum of a suitable two car garage and a minimum of permanently maintained off street parking space of two cars. (End of Tape) Piper: In reference to the pressurized irrigation we request that he install a new, independent pressurized irrigation system to accommodate this development. The existing pressurized irrigation is not capable of increased demand and the existing homeowners do not wish to pay for the re-engineering or re -design of an already poorly designed system to accommodate this development. Currently an irrigation line passes at the edge of the proposed alley along the back side of E. Antigua Drive. This line will be in danger of damage during construction and in danger of early freeze ups due to the reduced amount of cover to insulate them in a driving surface that would drive the freezing temperatures into the ground much more rapidly. Commissioners, the existing homeowners of Meridian Greens Subdivision purchased their homes asking the question what is the vacant property at the entrance of the subdivision going to be. And the response nice, professional offices. The response was not smaller lots with smaller houses that would decrease property valuations. We respectfully request that the current zoning stand and we look forward to seeing those nice professional offices as promised. Johnson: I have a couple of questions regarding these comments. Paragraph 2 on page 1, what is your source there for stating the property insurance will increase? Piper: It is an assumption. My property is the corner lot of the back alley of his proposal. In inclement weather I can foresee vehicles just travelling right through my fence onto my property. As well as when they make the comer around coming in. Johnson: On page 2, what is your source for determining that the pressurized irrigation system would not be capable of increased demand? Meridian Planning & Zd*g Commission January 13, 1998 Page 29 Piper: My source is we just repaired the system this past year, we spent over $12,000 of homeowner dollars to repair. The system barely functions now as it is. We re- engineered what we have: Mr. Appleford will speak here in a little bit in regards to that irrigation system to back that up more completely. Johnson: And thirdly and lastly from me with response to this letter, to whom did you ask this question in the last paragraph? Piper: About what the property is going to look like at the front entrance? Johnson: Right. Piper: I talked to several people and when I bought my property I asked the question what was going to be out there I was told nice offices. Several neighbors Johnson: Are you talking about a realtor or a developer? Piper: Realtor, my understanding through hearsay that a developer has also made those comments to other homeowner purchasers. Johnson: Any other questions from the Commissioners? Borup: Basically one and I guess you have answered that, what would you propose for this area, you would rather see office buildings it sounds like. Piper: Well I like the idea of houses there but I don't like the idea of an alley way being in back of other property owners. I would like to see a minimum of 1700 square foot house which he has stated, but that is not to include a garage or a porch, that I can't verify. Then a two story minimum of 2000 square feet which is the existing covenants for the adjoining areas. I would like to see off street parking to where people can pull into a driveway and park and not congest the main artery into our subdivision. Borup: I am still not sure what you prefer, you said you would rather see houses there so you would rather see an entrance street with 12 driveways coming onto the street. You think that would be more attractive than a landscaped entrance. Piper: We prefer a landscaped entrance, our hope was that, the board members had hoped that we could take this entrance and liven it up and jazz it up with a lot of landscaping. We have a great concern with that much area in front of that corner that people are not going to pull into their back paved areas to park, they are going to be parking on the street and cause problems with passing traffic. cnBorup: So one of your main concerns is parking on 5 . Meridian Planning & Zog Commission • January13, 1998 Page 30 Piper: Yes Borup: Which I assume you are concerned about the houses on the east side. Piper: Yes Borup: Because the ones on the west side would park on the other street there. I am not sure if that really answers my question. Maybe you didn't want to answer specifically what you would like to see there. Unless you want it to stay an empty lot. The developer may be willing to sell it to you. Johnson: Commissioner Smith? Smith: Nothing at this time. Johnson: This letter you have prepared which obviously indicates some conversation and some study with the homeowners association, did you have the developers present at the meetings, have you had any contact with them? Piper: Yes Johnson: How did that go? Piper: Norm Fuller met with us I believe October/November board meeting, he presented this preliminary idea to see how the board felt about this development. We took his ideas of how he was going to build this and what his ideas were. We discussed it, we gave it a lot of thought and we gave him a negative reply that we did not concur with this development. Johnson: Thank you I have no other questions at this time. I saw a lady here that had her hand up. Janet Brooks, 1027 E. Cayman Drive, was sworn by the City Attorney Brooks: I would just like to add a little bit to what Dennis said. A big huge sign in front of the subdivision right where he wants to put those tiny little houses, large lots, distinguished homes. When I bought my house I asked Mr. Fuller's daughter Shannon what was proposed for that area, office buildings. We have asked numerous times to have them give us a plan. We were told office buildings, nice landscaping. I fail to see how this is compatible with the other homes in the subdivision, if you have seen the other homes in the subdivision. They are smaller lots, smaller homes, they are completely incompatible. I would also like to reiterate irrigation, I have had several days in the summer where I can't even water my lawn. So I would like- to see him if he is going to do something out here build his own irrigation and take care of it himself, not my water. That is all I have to say. Meridian Planning & ZAg Commission January 13, 1998 Page 31 Johnson: Any questions of Ms. Brooks? Smith: Yes I have a couple quick ones, assuming for the moment that the square footage proposed does not include the garages, so the size is not necessarily an issue it is the lot size? Brooks: I would like to see compatible, I would like to see these homes and lots compatible with what is existing which the minimum square footage I believe in my section was 2200 square feet. Smith: I thought Dennis said 1700 Brooks: That is in his section, 1700 is what they are proposing, 2200 square feet is the minimum square footage where I live in my section. I don't feel 1700 square feet is compatible. Smith: Then I would assume you have an issue with the lot size as well. Brooks: Definitely, they are not compatible with the existing lot sizes. Smith: As far as who told you folks what was going to be developed out here I think your issue is with them not with us. There is nothing we can do about it, and quite frankly I don't know what you can do about it. We have heard this time and time again, I can't tell you how many times I have heard the same story. Brooks: I feel it is pretty disgusting that this man can mislead us and get away with it, I think we need to turn it down. He needs to be stopped some time and you can stop him by turning him down. He can do something else that is compatible with this subdivision. That is what I think can be helped. Johnson: When you say compatible, I am not trying to put words in your mouth or anything, but are you talking about the same size or bigger or are you talking about you don't see any possibility for any kind of transition between lot sizes and homes anywhere because that happens everywhere. So I don't understand when you keep saying incompatible or non -compatibility. Brooks: Well this gentleman here was talking about compatibility, I consider compatibility likeness in square footage, lot size, there aren't any patio homes in Meridian Greens that are existing now. That is a step down, I would like see, compatibility to me and I don't know about everybody else means compatible lot size, comparable lot size, comparable square footage. That to me is what comparable means. Not, I don't see how he thinks that $180,000 homes are going to enhance $200,000 to $300,000 and $400,000 homes in that neighborhood. I would like maybe clarification on how that would enhance it which is.what he said. Meridian Planning & Z(ig Commission January 13, 1998 Page 32 Borup: Just clarification on the square footage, apparently it sounds like the minimum square footage in Unit No. 1 which is the adjoining area is 1700, so you are saying in Number 2 and maybe somL others that are further away is 2200? Brooks: Exactly, each one has been different. Borup: So the further you get away from this the larger they are? Brooks: Well I don't know for certain but it appears so. Borup: So you are saying right now then the closer you get to this the smaller they are getting and this is staying down to the same size as the adjoining is that what you are saying or apparently that is what I have heard from the others. Brooks: Could you repeat that? Borup: Well apparently it looks like this parcel is surrounded by Unit No. 1 that we have on the plat which is 1700 square foot minimum the same as what they are proposing. Brooks: I don't know how many houses are 1700 square foot in there. Borup: Well I don't know either. Brooks: But I don't think there are many. Borup: Another question on the compatibility would you by a 2500 foot house that was on Overland Road? Brooks: What does that have to do with this? Borup: Because that is what they are proposing here, this project is an entrance to the subdivision it is adjoining Brooks: They can certainly put fewer homes in, make a nice landscaping so they are not directly on Overland Road. Entrances can be off of SE 5th I would think. Borup: The property adjoins Overland Road, you can't Brooks: Put a fence up and do some landscaping the back of the home. I am not talking about an entrance off of Overland Road but I think they can certainly make homes that are a little bit more compatible with the subdivision larger if that is what they are going to do. I don't think they need to squeeze every last penny out of that lot which is apparently what they are trying to do. Meridian Planning & ZoINg Commission January 13, 1998 Page 33 Borup: They are looking at 2.5 lots per acre. (Inaudible) lots on subdivision houses on an entrance to a subdivision or not even a Overland those lots, those houses won't sell for what an interior lot will. Brooks: Well and apparently Borup: That is just the way it is, so either leave that an entrance to a road as busy as Brooks: I would like to see if he is, I would prefer an empty lot to houses crammed in there patio homes crammed in there as part of Meridian Greens. I think consistency is key here. This is not consistent. Borup: Would you also prefer the office buildings? Brooks: I would prefer the office buildings as opposed to that. Roy Huerata, 871 E. St. Martin Drive, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Huerata: Just the first comment with Mr. Piper when we asked Chuck about what they were going to do with that property they said the same thing. Johnson: Chuck? Huerata: Chuck Fuller, the one point being though when we, we were in the first house of phase 2 that road was a dirt road leading in there. We were told that road was going to be shut off and would not be an access road into Meridian Greens and then they would close that up and then that section there would be totally separate. My concern, I guess I kind of see Mr. Borup's point on what they are going to do with that property. My biggest concern is using Meridian Greens name and I doubt if you will find more than three houses if that many in Meridian Greens that are 1700 square feet. If they were to utilize a different name try to identify that possibly a separate subdivision and not utilize our inadequate sprinkler system that we have now I can see maybe where that would work. But it kind of peeves me that we are in the second phase, 2200 square feet. When they went to the third phase they increased the size of those square footage on those houses even more. So it seem like Fullers are going backwards on the fourth phase of this just because they are trying to utilize Meridian Greens name in order to sell those lots. If they want to change it to something else like Overland Road Subdivision or whatever and keep it totally separate from Meridian Greens I don't see such a problem with that subdivision. But to try to represent a house of 1600 square feet with the rest of the homes in that subdivision I disagree with. I think one of the things in the neighborhood is compatibility. And compatibility also is an income level and house size. Obviously the houses of that size are much more in the same size of Hunter's Point or one of those subdivisions. Ironically when they built that subdivision Fullers demanded that all the houses that were on the perimeter that faced Meridian Greens had to be big, had to have shake roofs and basically they look like Meridian Greens Meridian Planning & Zoog Commission January 13, 1998 Page 34 subdivision houses. Yet when he builds this thing there are houses that are 1600 square feet, that is a starter house. That is not in the income level or the square footage size of the average house in Meridian Greens. That is all I have to say. Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Huerata? Okay, try your best not to be repetitive. Larry Bertetto, 665 E. Antigua, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney., Bertetto: I guess since I was the sixth house there I have a lot of history behind me but I won't go into it. I have heard both of them. I guess we at Meridian Greens have to realize what Mr. Borup said is a fact that I wouldn't put my house and mine is 2700 square feet on Overland Road. So we have to acknowledge the fact that Meridian Greens either going to be a less expensive house or we are going to have to have retail or whatever is in there. That is happening, we are not going to build $300,000 house on Overland and I think we can see that. Transition, I think every city or every subdivision has to have a transition point, you can't go everybody be a $300,000 house because it has to stop somewhere. One of the concerns that I have is the fact that you have a berm and I have been through the hearsay, is the berm being removed? Second one is there is going to be an alley, who will own the alley and take care of the maintenance of the alley. Does that belong to the City of Meridian to maintain, does that belong to the Subdivision to maintain? Assuming this is an alley, probably asphalt who replaces it when it goes bad? Irrigation I am not going to get into that. I am going to get into pet peeves and you know what that is, water pressure. We have gone through that, that has been pretty good, I have only had to talk to the Mayor a couple of times. That appears to be alright now. But now we go back to the same problem again like when JB's went in that we don't have water pressure. When Hunt's point went in or whatever it is over there we fluctuate water pressure, you can't get the water pressure out of your house. I live the second house in on Antigua, pretty close to this. What is going to happen, we always hear these things, this has been a problem, I have been there since 1989. That is going to be a problem that doesn't get solved, it just pops its ugly head up every time something change and you have to come in and argue with you guys and I really don't' like to do that. That is all that I have. Johnson: Thank you, we don't really consider it arguing, we are just listening to you. You are perfectly welcome to whine anytime you want to. Virginia Christianson, 635 E. Antigua, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Christianson: I have just one question, I know there are some people on the board Commissioner Borup and others that might be able to answer my question, I have heard from realtors that it is always better for a subdivision any kind of residential appendage to a subdivision is better than a commercial even if it is fine doctor's offices, is that true sir? Johnson: I think that would be highly subjective, do you really want to make an answer? Meridian Planning & Z0109 Commission January 13, 1998 Page 35 Borup: Well I can answer the question, my answer would be no I don't know if I can specifically answer that. The thing that struck me as unique here is this is the first time I have seen a group of homeowners want to remove houses and put in office buildings, it is usually the other way around. Before this body it has always been the other way around. Christianson: Why is that? You don't have an opinion on why that is? Smith: I think it was brought up earlier it is transitional zoning is commercial or professional offices better transitional zoning next to low density residential than a higher density residential. Personally I don't think so but again as Chairman Johnson stated that is a subjective call. I would like to say that you have had realtors tell you that are they the same realtors that told you what this development was going to be when they didn't know. Christianson: No, they didn't know anything about it they were just making a comment that traditionally residential better for the homes existing homes and commercial and I didn't even know if it is was true. Borup: The way I usually approach things like that is put it right back what would you personally want and that I the way I think most people need to look at things. What would you rather have yourself and assuming that enough people agree then that is the majority I don't know a comment beyond that. Johnson: Thank you Frank Kelley, 512 E. Antigua, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Kelley: One thing that has been a little bit of discussion here I think is called equal to or comparative to the existing homes that are in the subdivision. We purchased a home there last year because of the fact we liked not only the surroundings of the place but the good possibilities of appreciation on the home and for investment purposes. I certainly do not feel in any way, shape or form that this quality of home would be complementary to the appreciation on my home or any other home in existing subdivision. Now had he had a little better proposal or better quality of home then I could possibly agree to that. But I do have several questions on this, I have seen children playing on that water way there and I have fished one child out of there about 12 years old one day. I hardly find that it is safe to put up anything like they are proposing along there that would be safe for children or anyone else along that stream of water. Number 2 1 think the alley ways I think are to me degragative to the whole area. Number 2, this gentleman quoted that there would be approximately 180 vehicle additional per,day, we don't exceed that much now on that street. All in all I think it is a bad plan. I think he needs to regroup, re -plan it and come back and present it again. We all have a good chunk of money in this again. . Meridian Planning & Z0199 Commission January 13, 1998 Page 36 Johnson: Any questions? Borup: Yes, again would you rather see residential or commercial? Kelley: I would prefer to see residential, but better quality residential by far. Borup: And that was my other question, you made several comments that the homes they are proposing are the same quality, but I didn't hear them propose anything specific. Are you basing that just on the square footage or Kelley: The type of structure and the type of people, clients that they would be drawing to purchase those homes. Borup: Retired, affluent. Kelley: A little more affluent such as we have now sir. Borup: Well that, the information that we have been given that is the target. One of the purposes here is to gather information and understandingly we have some information you don't have. We have a set of the covenants and what they are proposing. That raised my question on the quality of the home. The covenants say tile roof period, if you have a tile roof do you know what the cost there is. They are saying no wood siding, they are talking maintenance free siding. Kelley: Well what kind of siding? Borup: Well there are several that are listed (Inaudible) and it goes on and on to some other things. I am just questioning your quality statement unless you are basing it strictly on size. Kelley: No I am not basing it strictly on size because I am not privy to that information that you have. So subsequently you are going to have 10,0000 additional questions that I could have (inaudible) if we had that information. That is kind of compounding the whole situation here tonight for you folks and just as well because we don't have that information. Now I am not slamming anybody but I am just saying it would have been very helpful had we had more information from the builder to start with. There is one other thing I wanted to mention is this would also I feel would compound the traffic not only at that intersection but down Antigua as well and out the other exit of the track right in front of my home. Also I am curious about who is like this gentleman down here said who is going to maintain those alley ways number two and number three when they pull those berms down that is going to affect our fences back there and we have vegetation along there which that would affect also. Which also tries to stop some of the noise off of Overland and how is that going to affect us? That is all I have. Meridian Planning & Z009 Commission January 13, 1998 Page 37 Johnson: Mr. Smith do you have any questions? Smith: What is degradative about the alley ways? Kelley: Because we don't have any of that in the whole subdivision right now and I don't think that is very tasteful design work. I am only a manufacturing engineer not a civil. But I think in design work that I have held plan on I think it looks degradative. Smith: I am not going to get into my personal experience with this, is this just based on your personal experience with alley ways and what you have seen with residential development and alley way homes that were designed 30 to 40 years ago before we started plunking these garages on the front of homes and that is the first and only thing you really see on the front of most homes today, just kind of what you are used to seeing. Kelley: This is based on (inaudible) this is the fourth home 1 have had and so I am basing this on what I have owned as well as other homes I have seen in other subdivisions, the prices of subdivisions, the quality of people that they attract and etc. I can design homes part time but I only do the artistic designs of the home not necessarily all the civil engineering work. Doug Hoay, 1806 SE 5th Way, Meridian ,was sworn by the City Attorney. Hoay: Well I have heard a lot of interesting comments so far but I probably have the best because I am the first lot after you pass that subdivision. I probably have had more conversation with Mr. Fuller than anybody in regard to the housing or office complex whatever. At one time I was in favor of office complex, still don't have a big problem with it. When this came out I kind of liked what 1 saw then it came down and took a closer look after we got our certified letter which unfortunately not everybody got to do. And there are some things that worried me a little bit. When you look at compatibility all of a sudden we have a different subdivision here. I understand why, developers are in the business to make money right. Homeowners are in the business to protect their investment. When you look at $200,000 to $300,000 there are a lot of people in this City that don't have businesses worth as much as those houses out there and we must protect them. I do believe that it may have a tendency to drag down our value of our homes. But the main thing that I am worried about is a few items. Number one is the setback situation, I understand why they did that with the alley. But if I understand correctly where are back to 15 feet setback from the street now with the new subdivision, we are all on 20. So all of a sudden we are coming in with a narrower setback situation and (inaudible) not compatible there. The next thing is we have a five foot setback on the side lines on single dwellings and ten feet on two story. Why not have it all the same? Well the reason is you have to cut out some square footage from Mr. Fuller's proposal if you spread that out, everyone else in that subdivision 200 homes plus is you have ten feet, ten feet, ten feet. I would like to see it ten feet over there. The thing that I have heard to keep it more compatible and more with what we are used to, Meridian Planning & Z006 Commission January 13, 1998 Page 38 that concept is not going to work. To do that Mr. Fuller is going to get less houses. He has over 200 already, how many do you want. Out of that he has not put one square foot of park space, common ground or anything else for our children to use. All we have done is continue to expand the connector that now you can reach 80 miles and hour before you get to my house. I would like on street, I hope they park on street, I hope they put the garages in the front, I hope that will slow the traffic down and I don't have a problem with that. But if they put the garages in the front we don't have a problem with on street parking. You have a problem here, we have no on street parking on 5"' Way that is a way to lose your car. 1700 square feet I think that is small, I think the entrance to this subdivision needs to be perked up a little more than an alley coming in. I have the same story that everybody else has that is going to be a closed street and I will take care of it someday. None of this has happened. I think we need to have them re -draw it and cut back some lots, make it more compatible with what we live in and go from there. I would rather see houses, across my fence I would rather see a house than an office complex. That is all I have, any questions? Johnson: Thank you Janice Avera, 942 E. St. Martin Drive, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Avera: I would like to start out by directing a question to Byron Smith, probably for my educational benefit. It sounded like you were not in favor of the eight visitor parking spaces planned for the culdesac and I am curious as to why since you seem to be generally in favor of this concept. Can you explain to me? Smith: I am in favor of the concept of parking in the back as opposed to on the street. I am not necessarily saying that this proposal here works in that regard. It is attempting to work that way but there are some issues here that have complicated it and maybe make it not work quite as well as it could or should . But the whole, they are spending a lot of money to put alley ways behind every one of these lots and then they plunk 8 spaces in the middle of the culdesac and 4 in this landscape area and it just seems like an after thought to me. To me it is not a good thought. through design, it needs to go back and get refined and work out some bugs. Avera: I was going to say I could see that some might consider it inconsistent but I know that in some of the culdesacs down in the more recent phases of the subdivision and I don't live in those phases, I know they have that and I have not heard whether it works or doesn't work but it seemed if somebody were ever to give a birthday party or Christmas party that you would need something like that for that kind of visiting. I have several questions, my first most basic is I only count 18 lots and unless it is a typo, the agenda says 20 lots, are there two mystery lots? Smith: There looks like there are 2 lots that are landscape common areas. Meridian Planning & Ag Commission January 13, 1998 Page 39 Avera: I wasn't sure where they were. Will the alley be visible from Overland in terms of on this alley way is there going to be a fence between the alley way and that landscaping or is there a berm, will it be visible from driving down Overland will you look through the trees and the bushes and see the backs of people's homes and their garages and the alley way? I haven't heard that addressed and I would like to know that. I can appreciate the realities of the market place and I understand that they want to develop that. I certainly don't have a problem with it, I myself prefer residential of some type over offices. I would like them to be as everyone has said somewhat more consistent with the homes in terms of protection of property values. So I would think frankly they squeezed a couple lots too many out of there. I do think we have some valid safety concerns on the lots on the east side that back up to that irrigation area. myself have also seen some young teenagers playing in that irrigation canal, luckily I haven't had to drag anyone out. But that would scare me that if you are putting in houses that are 1700 square feet that are starter home size and going to be at $180,000 versus the rest of them in the subdivision and whatever they are going for, I am not a realtor and I don't know, that you are going to get families with children there. And that those lots are going to back up and maybe be separated only by chain link fence from a very fast flowing irrigation canal and I think that is a real recipe for disaster. I think that is a problem. I guess last but not least I would want Norm Fuller to change the name and give it some other name but I don't want this connected with Meridian Greens. I don't want them on our poor, overburdened pressurized irrigation system. I had to be on City water for six weeks this summer because I could not get my lawn watered. I don't know if anybody else had as much problem but this is the first year that it has been that difficult. So I think that should be a completely separate development, not related, not named with Meridian Greens, not on our water supply. And if he wants to do that fine, I still think he has too many houses and again I think there is a very real safety concern if you have those small starter size homes backing up against an irrigation canal. Johnson: I have a question, we see a lot of home applications here and subdivision applications, a starter home is around 1100 square feet these days it is not 1700. Secondly explain to me why the name means so much to you, I don't understand it, that sounds very uppity to me. Avera: Yes it probably does, I think that the people in our subdivision do take pride of home ownership and I don't know that we would classify ourselves as uppity, maybe some of us gardening buffs like to take a little extra pride. I think everybody has pride in the subdivision and the upkeep of it. I realize that the phases have slightly different square footage amounts. I happen to be in phase two the same as Janet Brooks, I know ours is a minimum of 2200 square feet for the house. I am more concerned that we that the subdivision have a certain level of consistency. And I realize that there are homes in the subdivision that don't have as large a lot as I do and mine is about a 1/3 of an acre. I don't have a problem with that. If you currently drive through the subdivision you know whether you are in the far south part or whether you are up in phase 1. You are in the same subdivision, there is a certain consistency, of landscaping, architecture, and it Meridian Planning & ZG*g Commission January 13, 1998 Page 40 flows visually. I would think that is one of the things that people want to take into consideration and want to have continue. I personally don't have a problem with this design with alley ways that is probably because I don't have any personal experience with alley ways. My concern would be as echoed before who will maintain it, we already put a lot of money into trying to keep our pressurized irrigation system going. I am not real keen on having another new section of the subdivision hoisted upon us here we are going to build this you are going to have to take care of it, you have to protect yourself against law suits if somebody's child drowns in the canal, if the irrigation system doesn't work, if there are problems with the alley ways and suddenly we have potholes or trash problems. I don't want to deal with that really and the rest of the subdivision doesn't have alley ways, it is not a problem that we have to deal with. Right now our biggest headache is usually the irrigation system. It is simply that flow and that consistency and it is neighborhood pride. I am song if it sounds uppity and it is offensive, I don't think that is how it is intended. Johnson: Sony I asked. Ed Strong, 620 E. Antigua, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Strong: Tonight I would like to take a look at this drawing, tonight gentlemen you have heard from the individual who owns this lot, you have heard from Dennis who owns this lot and now you are going to hear from me and I own this lot. I own the smallest lot of all of these, it is 10,000 square feet. I recognize that there are going to be houses in there, that is a foregone conclusion. I knew there would be houses in there the day I moved in, the day I was told it was going to be office buildings. I knew that so I bought it knowing that full well. So what I would ask is that the minimum size of these lots be 10,000 square feet, that way it would be consistent with the lots that border it. I would also ask that there not be an alley way behind my house because the people are going to come in the alley and guess what we had a little snow last week and who is going to plow the snow off of there. Who is going to run into my yard? This is a little bit of a tight corner. Another thing nobody has asked about where are you going to put the garbage cans, are they going out here or are they going in the alley for pick up. I don't want a garbage truck going around back behind my house picking up garbage. Mr. Smith agree that this concept is good in certain areas this doesn't happen to fit with this area. I don't have any objection to this concept but not here. I think it has its place, but I would like to have a 10,000 square foot lot border my house. That is all I am asking, I know you are going to put houses in there, I knew it when I moved in 1989. So a 10,000 square foot lot with a front entrance on the driveway. Or if you want you can put the garage on the side, in the new part of the subdivision they have done some creative development down there where you enter the garage on the side, there are some offices on the side. They don't all enter from the front from the street. You can do that with some of larger lots. So I would ask that you consider that and I would ask that you send this back to the developer removing the alley way and increasing the lot size to a minimum of 10,000 square foot lots. Yes it will reduce the amount of money that the developer makes, the objective of a developer is to make money. That is why we all Meridian Planning & ZAg Commission January 13, 1998 Page 41 work to make money to support what we want to do. I am asking you to reduce the amount of income that he is going to get because that way I feel like my house value will remain the same. My house is 2375 square feet, this gentleman's house right here is a little over 1900, 1 believe he has the smallest house in phase one. So if you would tum it back and request 10,000 square foot lots, with no alley way I would appreciate it. Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Strong? Thank you H. Lee Seegmiller, 512 E. Whitehall Street, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Seegmiller: I would like to add my concerns to those previously voiced about the lot sizes and the congestion. I won't go into that, we have heard much of that. But I do want to ask some questions about utility. For instance how do we get a fire struck down that alley and around the comers. What about police protection with this type of situation, does that add to the problems of patrol? Will a garbage truck make the turns. I am awful concerned about parking along SE 5"' for the houses along the East side particularly. I can't believe that there won't be a lot of cars parked along that street. And in bad weather the streets become narrower as you know because of the snow and problems at the curbs. So I can foresee that there could be a number of problems with congestion and also some safety issues in terms of fire protection. (End of Tape) M. Heitner, 767 E. Kingsford Drive, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Heitner: I picked out the lot in Meridian Greens in the beginning of 1992 and I dealt directly with Nona Fuller because I hadn't picked out a builder yet. He told me I am the only one he told this to evidently, it was going to be a park. He wasn't sure about a swimming pool probably not a swimming pool because of the liability involved in running a swimming pool, but we would work out some kind of a park situation there. I think it is criminal, I was born in New York and I know I should be very suspicious of everything but I have gotten used to the western atmosphere and I believe people. I think it is kind of criminal that I have to get in writing from a developer what he promises me when I buy land. I built my house according to the covenants of the subdivision and when you think it doesn't matter what this proposed subdivision looks like when you enter this is the entrance or one of the proposed entrances a main entrance to our subdivision. And you tell somebody I live in Meridian Greens, I have worked a lot of years to be able to afford to buy a house in Meridian Greens that I am proud of. I am proud of the way all of my neighbors keep their homes. Maybe it is snotty, maybe I don't know what you want to call it, but it is nice to know we live there. Now to have something that, you live where with what you paid for your house and you live where? The entrance to our subdivision is the crummiest of any subdivision in the area regardless of price. Hunter's Point is prettier, Sportsman Pointe is prettier and their houses run for less money. The idea that we would have something nuw that is cheaper than any of the subdivisions that abut us to me is an affront. 1 don't know why when you have as many people who have invested Meridian Planning & Zd*g Commission January 13, 1998 Page 42 their hard earnings in homes in our subdivision that we should have to put up with a developer just because he is greedy and wants to make more money. Well excuse me that is wrong. I think he should be held to, alright he is not going to put in a park but at least put in homes that meet the same standards as the rest of the subdivision. If I wanted to live in an apartment complex I would have bought a condo on the other side of Meridian. I don't think we should be subjected to that. It may. sound snotty but I don't think there is anything wrong with having pride in where you live. I don't think that the proposal as it stands now will make me want to ever come in that entrance. I will go down to the other entrance and there are expensive homes on Overland at the other entrance. We are 5th Way and they are 3d Way, there are homes that come right up to, there are shrubs and stuff, but there are homes that meet the requirements of the existing subdivision that are right off Overland. I don't know why our new homes here couldn't be the same requirement as in Unit No. 2. Questions? Johnson: Thank you, we are glad you have been influenced by the Western atmosphere we appreciate it. Don Stillwaugh, 1822 SE 5th Way, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Stillwaugh: I live in the third house down from this subdivision on 5th Way. When I bought my lot all the other houses were built around there and that lot was vacant and I had a lot of questions why it was vacant and I talked to Mr. Fuller. He too told me the same stories and I think the word park was mentioned in that conversation just for the record. I too am a realist and knew that he would probably build houses someday. He did tell me one thing when I talked to him when I asked him the question why didn't you build houses there? The answer was nobody wants a house next to an equipment company. Well the way you solve that is you build more expensive houses and then you sell cheaper houses next to it. It is easier, you can't sell a more expensive house in the middle of the cheaper. So you build the more expensive and then you build the cheaper houses and then you can sell them and then people will live next to an equipment company. The solution that I see having driven in and out of there many times and believe I think there should be something there, I am tired of just garbage over there and dirt. We have a big berm beside Meridian Greens that the homeowners association takes care. Move that berm down next to Meridian and take care of a large lot, we can take care of that and have it mowed, irrigated, and then make the lots 10,000 square feet or larger and bring that, it will automatically make the houses nicer. It is not snobbish it is economics. My house is a certain amount, you build a house of a lower value next to it and I tell you Johnson: My word was uppity not snobbish Stillwaugh: I wouldn't know how to be uppity dnyhow, but I don't think anybody is in Idaho. It is just economics, we are trying to maintain the value of our homes. I think they have done a nice job on this but I don't think it meets what we would like to see. When they did Hunts Bluff behind us the lot sizes were issues, we came before here Meridian Planning & Zo4b Commission • January 13, 1998 Page 43 and talked about the lot sizes, the developer even agreed to increase the size of the homes, they didn't change the lot sizes. There was also some discussion about the fact that the lots were so small that they would have to build two story houses and the developer stood in here and told people that he wasn't going to build two story houses on the lots next to them. Unfortunately that didn't become a covenant and he built two story houses. Now the view of the mountains is blocked but that is our fault for not doing that. But the standard was set that the consistency between Meridian Greens and the adjacent lots was set at that time that (inaudible) in the covenants as far as the types. My suggestion would be to move the berm down let Meridian Greens maintain it and make bigger lots so people don't have to live next to Meridian road. Johnson: Thank you, any questions? Dale Wocicki, 612 W. Antigua Drive, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Wocicki: I would like to address Commissioner Smith's question about why an alley doesn't work here. I think maybe an alley does work if that is the way you start a new subdivision. But I am an adjacent property owner and I think what we are going to end up with is everybody that lives on the north side of Antigua Drive is not going to have traffic flow both out the front door and the back door. When we talk about resale or living along Overland Road, what has that done to our property now when we have resale and we have traffic flowing front and back? I guess that is my response to why you think and alley doesn't work in this development. Smith: Did I say why doesn't an alley work or what is your disagreement with an alley in this situation. Wocicki: Either one that is my disagreement with an alley, I am going to have traffic flowing both front and back. Smith: I think there are some obvious reasons to me anyway why an alley doesn't work. The longer we sit here the less I am willing, this is a concept that I feel very strongly about that I think is a good design concept and I think it works very well. But unfortunately in this particular application I have been trying to cling to it the longer 1 can, the more willing I am to see a good concept compromised by my opinion again poor design application. Clarence Appleford, 86 E. Antilles, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Appleford: First of all I would like to address your uppity comment, I picked comment for my home and I believe I have the right to be uppity. I am the gentleman that was going to talk about the irrigation system in the existing Meridian Greens Tract. What portion of it is served by pressurized irrigation system now is very poorly served. The system that was initially put in there was not properly designed, it didn't serve anybody's interest but the builder that put it in, he satisfied someone's requirement. Last year we Meridian Planning & Zo*g Commission . January 13, 1998 Page 44 did a complete redesign and reconstruct, I was involved in that. I am also doing the maintenance and overseeing of the irrigation system. Today we can't maintain pressure that will irrigate the entire tract at any one given time. We can't cut off half the people and irrigate the tract. His proposal just won't work. The system that is in there today we upgraded pumping capacity as much as we could feasibly at the time. The next time if we ever have to do that again it will be a lot more than $12,000. Unfortunately we can't dig up the pipe and redo the piping system. The piping system is inadequate, should have been reviewed, it is unfortunate that system was not required to be reviewed by a good, competent mechanical engineer that did irrigation systems because it is not good. We are fighting that system and the people that are there now, and I have heard a lot of testimony, the people that are there now have learned to live pretty much we irrigate pretty much in the middle of the night. And gardeners will tell you that is not a good idea for your lawn, but we do it. In addition to that a comment made by Mr. Fuller, I was at the board meeting that Mr. Fuller proposed this addition to us. His comment was couldn't sell the homes if he left the lots the same size as those lots in the rest of the tract. Meaning probably 10,000 to 12,000 square feet. Norm, there are homes all around you on lots like that and some that you built that were sold. And he left. As Mrs. Heitner said there are homes constructed to the older, larger standard, they were sold they are being occupied right now by him in tracts next door adjacent to them on either side there are these homes. I am not against, I believe that homes fit well there, I believe that a 10,000 to 12,000 square foot lot fits there. I am not so sure that the alley way innovation is appropriate because I think there is a problem with heavy equipment and namely the fire equipment and the garbage equipment. I think that you also impose traffic into someone else's backyard which may or may not create a problem of people coming across that fence. Not a good idea. By the way, the 20 lots on 7 acres, I heard the comment earlier that these lots were large. Well 20 lots on 7 acres minus streets, curbs and gutters is a very small lot. That is small. Johnson: It is much larger than the average lot, the density is 2.87 or whatever it is on this and that is a much lower density than most of the subdivisions in Meridian. That is just for your edification because I know you never get into those subdivisions I want you to know they are there. Appleford: I not only get into them I came from them. Borup: Mr. Appleford, you were talking about on the irrigation system is the source of the water is that coming from the irrigation canal or are there any separate wells? Appleford: It is all canal water, we have a header that goes over Borup: At the present time does it cover the whole subdivision 100%? Appleford: No, he did the first go -,ng in the tract up to SE 5th Borup: So the first phase probably 1 and 2 did not have it? Meridian Planning & Zog Commission. • January 13, 1998 Page 45 Appleford: Well approximately '/Z the tract is presently serviced, the other portion of the tract back on the backside now it is under consideration for them. They would have to build their own vault, they Would have to build their entire system. It is a back fit and it is very costly. Borup: That is what I was questioning, it has not been the requirement of the City of Meridian until the last few years to have a (inaudible) at the present time it is owned and maintained by the homeowners association. Appleford: Yes it is and 1 don't know how he would go about connecting to our system, that is another question I have. How is he going to connect to a system that we own and maintain, operate and pay the bills, you are going to have to tell me that fellows. Borup: Thank you Johnson: Someone else? Randy Winn, 2911 Teton Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney. Winn: I I am just here to address some of the concerns that the homeowners have. Believe me we wanted to know what those concerns were. A couple of issues well several issue it looks like, the number one issue was the alley way. When we first, when I talked to Norm about the design of what we wanted to do up there he approached me and sure there was some talk about some offices. But I told him that may not be the best thing for Meridian Greens. Again that was just my voice. He said he thought it would be better if we went with some homes as well. His idea was to go ahead and stay with what the first phase had as far as the conditions and covenants which was a 1700 square foot minimum. We also discussed the fact that the garages on the front of the homes would actually make the homes look smaller and that it would be more in tune probably for the benefit for the homeowners to put the garages in the back. That way giving a more appealing, aesthetic design on the front of the home. Apparently that isn't something that the homeowners want, so I will definitely bring that to his attention. I think there was talk that there would be a separate homeowners association, at one we had talked about that but he mentioned he thought the Meridian Greens name would be something that the people would like to see on that because of the fact that we were addressing the homes at a higher standard than what the first phase was. That was including the tile roofs, versus the shake which a lot of people when they came into the subdivision weren't real thrilled that there were shake roofs on the homes. They wanted to go with asphalt shingles. 1 made a comment that if we were to dress the subdivision up in the front that we should go with the more expensive material and that would a tile roof. We also had concern as far as the exterior of the homes not just with the garages being in the front of the homes but with the material that is placed on the homes. We talked about possibly going all stucco on homes, that is a definite if somebody wanted to do that they could go with all stucco or all brick. They could go with the vinyl siding Meridian Planning & Zdeg Commission January 13, 1998 Page 46 but we would allow them to put something or be mandatory that they put either brick or stucco on the front of the homes. The 1700 square foot minimum there again we felt that was in line with the first phase and there again knowing that the homeowners would have some question as to'why we would do that it was simply because we didn't feel that we could market a home that was over that in the front of the subdivision. The fact remains that if the builder was going to get greedy on this he would definitely go with office buildings. I don't think that was in his mind to get the most out of this that he could as far as the monetary value. As far as the pressurized irrigation system I am not really sure what he had planned there. That apparently is another concern that I think should be addressed. As far as property values go I think that if anybody would like to question that the fact remains that homes that are appraised aren't appraised by the, they are appraised by square footage but they are appraised by comparable homes in the area. I know there is a question well these aren't comparable. Well if you have a 2500 square foot home they are not going to use a 1700 square foot home as comparable. They will address the other homes that have sold in the subdivision that were 2500 square feet or more right in that size. The newer phase or the third phase I should say, we have actually increased the square footage on that to 2400 square feet with the minimum of $250,000 or $225,000. Some of the lots in the subdivision have actually increased the value of the homes starting at $250,000. That in itself is going to give the increase that these people are wanting in the value of their home. I think that if it is the consensus_ of the homeowners to go with a commercial value in the front then that is something that the developer would look at. What we intended on doing the whole intent was to make a very nice entrance. The question of the fence -going tip against Overland Road that is a question that I will definitely come back with and see if they would be interested in doing that. The mounding I believe on the landscape plans is to mound the front of the subdivision as well. The name of the subdivision, when we first talked about this, you had asked me if it would be better to have the names Meridian Greens 1 said it would probably be better to leave it as something else but incorporate the Meridian Greens name such as patio homes at Meridian greens or something like that. I feel that, there has to be a transition between an industrial situation to a larger residential area. Now I am not sure that it would be appropriate to go with too much higher if any higher at all in lot size. That is my feeling as a realtor and it is not because I make more money at it, I can make more money if we go ahead and put the offices in. That is not the point, the point is that Mr. Fuller did intend on making this a very attractive entrance for the homeowners at Meridian Greens. We just weren't sure what to do with it. The homeowners I think at one time were offered to buy the property if they wanted to but a park there if they wanted to go ahead and put tennis courts or whatever they wanted. I don't think that is something that they wanted to do, and I don't blame it is not a cheap venture. I just think that in all fairness you have to understand that the builder, the developer is not trying to down grade the subdivision at all, he isn't. His whole idea was to give it a more attractive, he just wasn't sure what to do with it. We felt that if we went with a littler higher, well actually it is not a higher density but a more compatible use for people, there have been several people that have some through the subdivision that really didn't need that size of lot but loved the quality, loved that Meridian Greens. Granted they can be a little uppity if they would like Meridian Planning & ZcOg Commission 0 January 13, 1998 Page 47 because that subdivision has made a name for itself in the last 10 years. I think there are a lot of people that would prefer to have smaller lot but have Meridian Greens as well. I would be able to answer any questions if you had any. This was, Norm Fuller didn't even know I was coming up here, this is just on my own accord, so I am happy to answer any questions. Johnson: Thank you, any questions of Mr. Winn? Borup: Yes Mr. Chairman, I had some that I was going to ask the engineer, but it may be, you are speaking as the marketing agent? Winn: I am a marketing agent for the builders, the development has no market I don't market the lots myself, I just market the homes in the subdivision. If people are interested in the lots I give them the information. Borup: Maybe you will answer a couple of these then. At this time is it intended that the lots would be on the open market or is it going to be closed on the construction end? Winn: This is something that we haven't discussed yet, we weren't sure if that would be a favorable way to go, just to leave it to one developer or would it be better to go ahead and sell them on the open market. There again I think that is a good question because the one reason we wanted Meridian Greens name on there is because we wanted the Meridian Greens people to have a say in what went in there. If we didn't have Meridian Greens name on there and we just left it open as a different subdivision then we wouldn't have as much to say about that particular subdivision if we sold it out. Borup: Do you know when Mr. Fuller spoke to the group earlier did they bring any conceptual plans of houses going in or are you familiar? Winn: I haven't even seen the plans yet, this is the first time I have seen the plans. But I had been looking at some that I thought would be favorable. Borup: This was some stuff that was put in our packet, it sounds like this information did not go out. You had mentioned the different name, is that something that is still open for discussion with the developer or is that something you are able to comment on? Winn: I am not sure that I can comment on that on his behalf but I think that if that is something that the association wants it would definitely something that I would refer back to him and see if that couldn't be something that could be worked out. Borup: How far along did the office discussion get, did he pursue that very far? Winn: Well I came into the subdivision three years ago to start marketing their homes. At that point there was discussion as to what we should do there. He had been approached by some people to put offices there. At one point we thought that we might Meridian Planning & Zoeo Commission . January 13, 1998 Page 48 have. But then I started talking to some of the homeowners that were in the area that came through the open houses and asked me what we were planning on doing there. Well I told them that I would favorably like to see homes but there was some discussion that maybe offices would be an option. Borup: I meant more at present time, has he given serious consideration to that? Winn: No Borup: At this point, I have been keeping track a little bit it looks like it is split about 50/50 on what people would like to see there. Winn: If I had known a little more about that we may have gone in with a different concept altogether. Johnson: Thank you, anyone else that would like to come forward at this time? Dave Channer, 2567 SE 5th Way, Meridian, was sworn by the City Attorney. Channer: I have just jotted down a couple of things and feel that it is just based on my experience for whatever it is worth. It seems to me, I am new to the subdivision, moved there less than a month, I am in the new section minimum square footage of 2400 square feet. I looked around, I looked at Banbury, Island Woods, Hobble Creek and decided to stay in Meridian. Interesting I asked Chuck what they were going to do with the entrance and he turned to Norm and said Norm what are you going to do. Norm said I don't know. So for whatever it is worth. I disagree based on some of the I guess they are nothing more than opinions, so I will disagree with some of the opinions that there has to be a transition. Going through the other subdivisions through Island Woods they have a berm and it is big berm. Maybe it is not only to keep the noise down from Eagle Road, maybe it is partially due to flood control but it is a large berm. The berm at Hobble Creek, the berm at Bristol Heights there are tons of them. I would not be in favor of a fence along Overland Road, I don't think it would do any good. Drive along the freeway and see what has happened to the fence. It is 20 years old it is falling down, it is a real eye sore. It just seems to me that after listening to everyone here tonight that at least from the homeowners perspective this is a very simple fix. I cannot understand, in fact some of the implications that I have inferred from some of the comments that it almost seems that you folks are defensive on this project trying to stand up for it. But the fix is simple, just make it look like the rest of the subdivision. I do not understand why there is so much flak or push back for that concept. Make them 10,000 square foot lots, just make it look like the rest and put a big berm up there, like you see in Banbury and Island Woods and all of the subdivisions where those homes cost a lot of money. That is, I can't say it any simpler. I think a person would have to be brain dead not to see what the homeowners want. You probably have some competing interests and you have got to take other things into consideration. I hope it has come through loud and clear tonight, I mean it has come through loud and clear sitting here as a new Meridian Planning & ZC09 Commission • January 13, 1998 Page 49 homeowner. For whatever it is worth I think it is a very simple fix, I would just send them back and make it look like the rest. Borup: You are saying you would like to see a large berm along Overland and then increase the lot sizes. Channer: It might leave him only three building lots, I don't know how much it would leave him. Borup: It would probably eliminate one from looking at the plat. There are only 4 lots that are under 10,000 square feet (inaudible). The other comment and again we don't have a vested interest in this either way. And a couple of things you mentioned about houses being right up against Banbury and Hobble Creek that definitely is true. But the price range of the houses are 40 to 50% under the other houses in the interior of the same subdivision and that is just kind of a general rule. Channer: I think the bigger berm you put out there the more easily you will be able to market it . Borup: Well the houses in Banbury against Chinden are considerably under (inaudible) Channer: I even have some dirt on my lot that I would give to Nona, he could move it out there. Borup: I am saying with or without a berm it happens that way and it is just economics, they don't sell. Johnson: Thank you, anyone else? Is there anyone that hasn't testified that wants to? Strong: I can say nothing and take a long time doing it. Just a question, are the 10,000 square foot lots is that the actual building size or does that include the alley ways or the coverage over the laterals? Johnson: That is a question we will put to the developer, I have got kind of a short list here for him to respond to. Strong: That is one question and I would like a 10,000 minimum building lot not including right of ways. Johnson: But you do want the same definition you have on your lot right? Strong: That is correct and I would also like to have a question as to when a decision will be made regarding the alley ways, because it does impact those of us that live along that area. As a previous speaker said we have traffic on both sides, I just want to Meridian Planning & ZA Commission January 13, 1998 Page 50 know so I can sell my house and l would like to know as quick as possible. So I would like to know when a decision will be made. Johnson: Anyone else? Bertetto: He asked a question about the alley ways and I speak from a little bit of experience about that. I was president of a homeowners association with 500 homes and there was 1.9 miles of street that somehow when the builder came in he deeded that to the homeowners which you want to repair X amount of street costs you a lot of money and the town we lived in didn't assume responsibility. So my question was when I asked about the alley ways was important because as a homeowner if this thing gets finagled to us and I have seen it happen over the different phases if they are going to put in any streets in or anything that I think they should belong to the City to keep track of not the homeowners. Johnson: Thank you, anyone else? Is the person that did the presentation still here? If you would grab the microphone please and you are free to respond anything you want. One of the questions that repeatedly came up or at least came up once because I wrote it down was the alley ownership and the maintenance of that. I believe you have addressed that in your application as being an assessment for that owned by the homeowners association. Why don't you elaborate on that, because that is what your application says. Carnahan: The application as proposed does call for those alley ways to be ingress egress easements. One of the comments from the Meridian staff was to make that a common open lot that would be part of the homeowners association. I think that is the direction that it is headed right now. Johnson: I am not sure that you answered my question. Carnahan: Yes I believe that the homeowners association will be responsible for the maintenance of the alley ways. Johnson: There was some verbiage that I wanted to clarify in the application. If you would answer Mr. Strong's question about the definition of a 10,000 square foot lot, what is the definition? Carnahan: The square foot area shown on the displays include the alley ways. Johnson: I had one other question here if I can locate it. Mr. Appleford made a comment that I would like to see if you had an answer to, that is how would you connect to the pressurized irrigation system there. How can it physically be done, I am sure you researched that right? Meridian Planning & ZA Commission January 13, 1998 Page 51 Carnahan: I believe the intent of the developer was that this would be part of the existing homeowners association and that they would work with them on a new system and be able to connect with them. As (inaudible) phases that, are developed the homeowners association takes in the new subdivisions that are developed. (Inaudible) Bertetto: Again I think, I don't know if there are any original people here but when whatever the phase I was in like I said the 6th house that was there when we put in the other ones that board of directors made Mr. Fuller put in everything to our expectations what needed to be done. At this point we are saying something different. So I think Mr. Fuller makes a lot of promises and you fellows haven't been here over the years, only Jim. There are a lot of things that go on and probably at the Sunrise Cafe or what have you that dealings are discussed and then all of a sudden they are presented to us as if we want it. So I think, I want to make that clear is that what happens is all these promises. We just want to be aware of all of these things and maybe now with the new Council and new guys we can get things done the right way. Johnson: Did you have anything else to add? On the CC&R's that you submitted, it says owners of lots in Meridian Greens Subdivision Unit No. 4 shall be charged an additional assessment for the alley in Unit No. 4 and you kind of gave me a reaction like you didn't know that. Carnahan: Well I looked through covenants and I hadn't remembered that exactly that way, but that is what we are proposing, yes. Johnson: Does anyone else have any questions of the developer's representative? Smith: I just have a comment on the plat as it is presented. Because of my working with the alley way concept in other developments I was really when I first looked at this application I was impressed that somebody is finally coming forward and do a development like this. But I have looked this thing over for some time and trying to figure out a way to make it work it just doesn't work. This alley way around on the west side of the property, it backs up to lots that can't even use it because their homes weren't designed to use an alley. They are single loaded alley, they don't work they are not efficient. All of these alleys are single loaded alleys they need to be double loaded alleys, they are more efficient. I think they work better when they are in a more urban setting with a higher density development. I sure as hell wouldn't want a house backed up to that alley that couldn't even access it. It just doesn't work in this particular application. I think that the whole plat map is predicated on that concept and that approach. I am, I think that some kind of transitional zoning can work here, I don't think that there has to be, I am not saying apartments or condors or something like that. But something that is complimentary to or the same as existing development would be something that would be appropriate for this development. If you look at the area, everything on the south side of Overland here is residential. Professional office Meridian Planning & ZC49 Commission January 13, 1998 Page 52 buildings don't fit and if somebody comes in and- wants to put professional office buildings on this site I will not support, I will just go on record saying that. That is basically, I can appreciate most of the comments that were made tonight. I would like to see them kind of go back and address those concerns. Johnson: We have actually two items that deal with this item #9 and #10 and just for you people that aren't familiar with the way we operate. We would gladly incorporate your testimony when we get to item #10 when we get to that public hearing so we don't have to go through this again. One of the applications was for a preliminary plat and the other is for a conditional use permit. We do combine those two in the testimony because a lot of your comments tonight didn't have anything to do with the plat. If no one else has a comment at this point. Kelley: Mr. Smith I want to compliment on your viewpoint, I think you have very good taste as far as what you are saying about this type of design and what you are saying also that it is more suitable to other situations other geographic locations other than next to where we are at. I do have, I am schooled also in real estate appraisal but nonetheless I just want you to know that I compliment you on that. Borup: Mr. Chairman, I did have a follow up, I had about 6 items you asked most of them to the applicant. Has there been any consideration of a separate stand alone homeowners association for this phase rather than combining with the existing? Carnahan: We didn't go either way. Borup: Well you probably got some direction from this group tonight on which way. Then have you in concept designing has there been some look at designing this without the alley ways? Carnahan: I believe on some of the earlier concepts just to get a starting point there were some other ideas looked at. Again the whole idea was to create an appealing entrance (End of Tape) Borup:... on the west side you get the same street scape with or without the alley. On the east side, you are talking seven driveways entering rather than one. That would probably be the difference in concept. I kind of got the feeling that that was the majority of the residents there would like to see it go, so maybe that is something you may want the developer to look at. That was all of the questions I had. A couple of other comments. Just something I would like to — on the record, I think there is a need for upper end construction on smaller lots. This may or may not be the subdivision, but I think for what they are proposing, I don't think it is incompatible. You get some retired people that maybe just don't want a third of an acre to mow, but want to have a nice quality home. And there is really not a lot of places around Meridian, anyway, for that to go. And I don't know all of the things that Norm Fuller has promised everybody when they moved in. But I do know the reason that Meridian Greens has a nice name is Meridian Planning & Zo4b Commission January 13, 1998 Page 53 because of what he did years ago. He started that subdivision when the market was not like it has been the last few years. He forced a lot of what's — he forced that subdivision to the standards of what it is now by him going in and building, all the homes and building the large homes and putting the price on them. And you have got — Meridian Greens has an outstanding name. Everyone here — almost everyone here has repeated that. I think that's why because of a lot of the stuff he did. Apparently he is not pleading everybody with what he is doing here, and at this point, I am not sure how I feel either way. I think that's something that I just wanted to mention because of the stuff he's done in the past and why you have the subdivision that you do, and I think he was concerned about the subdivision as a whole. If he wanted to make money selling lots, especially when he started, he would have done the lots half the size they are and sold twice as many. I think he was trying to build a nice community. Johnson: Okay, thanks. Smith: Just one quick comment in contrast to what Commissioner Borup just mentioned is you're really concerned about that entry street and access and houses fronting, maybe you consider a little bit larger and pulling the garages behind the house, not necessarily sticking them all the way back so everybody along the back side is upset about them again. You know, you don't have to have them right on the front of the house either. Johnson: I never let anybody testify three times, Mr. Strong. I've never let that happen. Strong: Thank you, sir. I'm just a first timer here. See, I don't know the rules yet. Johnson: The rules are, the staff gets up and walks out when you testify three times. They don't listen to you. Strong: That's all right. I would just like — there was a comment made that there was majority of the people on the west side that opposed the alley. It is not a majority, it is unanimous. Johnson: That's a majority. Strong: No, it's not. Johnson: Majority is one more than fifty percent. Strong: I think the majority of the people would not like to see an alley. Johnson: Now, that's correct. All four of us have property against there and all four of us don't want the alley. Meridian Planning & ZA Commission January 13, 1998 Page 54 Johnson: Good, okay. I'm closing this public hearing now. What's your pleasure? This was really because of the order of the Agenda was the preliminary plat which would be right for us probably not to take any action, but we should move to .the conditional use. It's up to you. It's your pleasure. Borup: I'd like to see another plat myself. Smith: One question I forgot to ask the applicant... Johnson: Maybe I can answer it for you. Borup: ... what their feeling is. Would their preference be to rework this or take their chances on the way it is. Johnson: I can't answer that for you. Borup: Oh. I just remember the last time I asked that question, the whole thing withdrew and it wasn't on the subject either. Johnson: It was on a bar in an industrial zone. Well, you guys have the floor, so what would you like to do? Smith: Mr: Chairman, Commissioner Borup and I would like to give the developer a chance to go back and address these concerns and reapply with a new plat. Borup: So, would that be appropriate to table this and give him an opportunity to do that? Johnson: Well, he's under no — Borup: Well, we realize that. He may just want to return the same one as it is. Johnson: He's not compelled to do that. Borup: That's his option also. Johnson: I think actually your action has to be a recommendation to the City Council because this item is for the preliminary plat. Borup: We can't table it? Johnson: Sure you can. Meridian Planning & Zo4g Commission January 13, 1998 Page 55 Borup: But would that be a separate — would that be a separate — maybe ask Sheri that. Would that be a separate application if it was redesigned, or could that still be under the existing application? Johnson: In other words, he's asking probably, "Would that require separate notice, etc. Stiles: I think as long as you make that a part of the continuance of a public hearing to ask them to revise it and submit it, everybody here is notified of that and wouldn't require additional application. Johnson: I'm thinking of the time factor, is what I'm thinking. Borup: You know, it will add another month. Stiles: Are you talking complete redesign of the project or some — Borup: Well, the size of the project is not going to change. He's got the same amount of acreage. But we're talking — Johnson: Until you see what it is, you don't know how substantial the change would be. Borup: Right. Stiles: Depending on the changes that were required, it may have to submit a totally new application. Johnson: You can table it with a stipulation the applicant and staff meet prior to our next meeting and they can work out perhaps whether they want to do that or not. But you can't tell them what to do. Borup: No, I realize that. Smith: Well, I think that the comments made warrant substantial changes. Prior: Then you are going to have to have another public hearing if you are going to have substantial changes. It's the way it's going to be. Smith: Hey, I didn't design it. I'm sorry. Borup: Another consideration for this body is if it is in compliance with zoning and with the comprehensive plan. Now, if we limit ourselves to that. Smith: Well, then we just wasted three hours too. Johnson: It depends on your point of view. I'm waiting. Do something please. Meridian Planning & Zd*g Commission January 13, 1998 Page 56 Borup: Mr. Chairman, is there anybody here that can speak on behalf of the developer, and maybe give any input on what their preference may be? Johnson: As I told you 1 would have to reopen the public hearing. Are you asking me to do that? Borup: I know that. Let me think about that. Borup: Yeah, if everyone here promises not to come up again. (Inaudible) Johnson: This is a real formal hearing tonight I can tell. Okay, I will reopen the public hearing at this time then. You may ask the developer a question if you wish, or his representative. Borup: Is there a preference from the developer, can you speak to that? Carnahan: I will try. We have two options, either voting on the concept as presented or tabling it for a month to rethink things or regroup possibly. Borup: The vote would not actually be tonight, it would be next month. Carnahan: Next month. Then the only question other than that that has been raised is if we do significant changes are we still under the same application, or would we have to resubmit? Stiles: I think if the changes are significant to the point that the entire roadways are moved, things like that, if lots are made bigger to accommodate larger houses, things like that, with the same configuration of roads, I don't think that you would need to do a new application. But it sounds like what they are asking you to do is going to require significant change, then you have the option of going ahead and continuing with the recommendation to the Council to deny it, or you know, whatever that may be. Johnson: But if there are significant, changes, all the agencies involved, ACHD etc., need to have an opportunity to respond. That's why it is going to be difficult to avoid, in my opinion, re -notify. Borup: And I'm not sure what Mr. Smith had in mind, but I can see where it can be done with existing roadways like they are, without changing the road. Smith: Fifth is kind of ... Borup: That's gonna... Smith: ... is where it's got to go. 91 I Nterdan street • l+ertdiart, ldalo $32` • {208}13$<'fi1.'ax {2fl3 $$7ti0 SUPERINTENDENT Dr. Bob L. Haley IMCEIVM �+rj Y�� JAN 1 5 1595 January 5, 1998 City of Meridian 33 East Idaho Meridian, ID 83642 Re: The Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 Department of Public Works: I have reviewed the plat for the The Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 and find that it includes approximately 18 homes assuming a median value of $200,000. We also find that this development is located in census tract 103.11 and in the attendance zone for Mary McPherson Elementary School, Meridian Middle School and Meridian High School. Using the above information we can predict that these homes, when completed, will house 6 elementary aged children, 5 middle school aged children, and 4 senior high aged students. This development will cause additional overcrowding in all three schools. The cost per student for newly constructed schools, excluding site purchase price and offsite improvements, exceeds $5,000 per elementary student and $10,000 per middle or high school student. Even though, we are in a difficult position and need your help in dealing with the impact of growth on schools, we will approve this subdivision. Sincerely, Jim Carberry, o0 Administrator of Support Programs BOARD OF TRUSTEES Rex Harrison • Wally Hedrick • Holly Houfburg • Jim Keller • Steve Mann MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING: January 13, 1998 APPLICANT: FULLER SCOTT INVESTMENT CO. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER: 9 REQUEST: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT NO. 4 AGENCY CITY CLERK: CITY ENGINEER: CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR: CITY ATTORNEY: CITY POLICE DEPT: CITY FIRE DEPT: CITY BUILDING DEPT: MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT: MERIDIAN POST OFFICE: ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT: ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE: CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH: NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION: SETTLERS IRRIGATION: IDAHO POWER: US WEST: INTERMOUNTAIN GAS: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION: OTHER: COMMENTS SEE ATTACHED COMMENTS SEE ATTACHED COMMENTS "REVIEWED" SEE ATTACHED COMMENTS �v SEE ATTACHED COMMS T v7 V SEE ATTACHED COMMENTS SEE ATTACHED COMMENTS All Materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. MEMORANDUM: To: Mayor, City Council, Planning & Zoning From: Bruce Freckleton, Assistant to City Engineer i3i� Shari Stiles, P&Z Administrator ��7 January 8, 1998 Re: Request for Preliminary Plat/Planned Unit Development Approval for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 - 18 Building Lots and 2 Common Area Lots on 7.21 Acres - by Fuller Scott Investment Co. We have reviewed this submittal and offer the following comments, as conditions of the application. These conditions shall be considered in full, unless expressly modified or deleted by motion of the Meridian City Council.- GENERAL ouncil. GENERAL COMMENTS 1. Any existing irrigation/drainage ditches crossing the property to be included in this project, shall be tiled per City Ordinance 11-9-605.M. Plans will need to be approved by the appropriate irrigation/drainage district, or lateral users association, with written confirmation of said approval submitted to the Public Works Department. 2. Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project will have to be removed from their domestic service per City Ordinance Section 5-7-517. Wells may be used for non-domestic purposes such as landscape irrigation. 3. Determine the seasonal high groundwater elevation, and submit a profile of the subsurface soil conditions as prepared by a soil scientist with street development plans. 4. Submit copy of proposed restrictive covenants and/or deed restrictions for review by the Meridian City Attorney. 5. Provide five -foot -wide sidewalks in accordance with City Ordinance Section 11-9-606.B. 6. Submit a letter from the Ada County Street Name Committee, approving the subdivision and street names. Make any corrections necessary to conform. Nlc GremsUnit#4.pp OFFICIALS HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY COUNCIL MEMBERS WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk A Good Place to Live WALT W. MORROW, President RONALD R. TOLSMA JANICE L. TH, City TreasurerC GARY D. SMITIH, PE., City Engineer CITY OF MERIDIAN GLENN R. BENTLEY BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt. 33 EAST IDAHO JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt. MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 P & Z COMMISSION DENNIS J. SUMMERS, Parks Supt. SHARI L. STILES, P & Z Administrator Phone (208) 888-4433 • FAX (208) 887-4813 JIM JOHNSON, Chairman KENNETH W. BOWERS, Fire Chief Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211 MALCOLM MACCOY W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief Legal Department (208) 884-4252 KEITH BORUP MARK NELSON WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney ROBERT D. CORRIE BYRON SMITH Mayor MEMORANDUM: To: Mayor, City Council, Planning & Zoning From: Bruce Freckleton, Assistant to City Engineer i3i� Shari Stiles, P&Z Administrator ��7 January 8, 1998 Re: Request for Preliminary Plat/Planned Unit Development Approval for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 - 18 Building Lots and 2 Common Area Lots on 7.21 Acres - by Fuller Scott Investment Co. We have reviewed this submittal and offer the following comments, as conditions of the application. These conditions shall be considered in full, unless expressly modified or deleted by motion of the Meridian City Council.- GENERAL ouncil. GENERAL COMMENTS 1. Any existing irrigation/drainage ditches crossing the property to be included in this project, shall be tiled per City Ordinance 11-9-605.M. Plans will need to be approved by the appropriate irrigation/drainage district, or lateral users association, with written confirmation of said approval submitted to the Public Works Department. 2. Any existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within this project will have to be removed from their domestic service per City Ordinance Section 5-7-517. Wells may be used for non-domestic purposes such as landscape irrigation. 3. Determine the seasonal high groundwater elevation, and submit a profile of the subsurface soil conditions as prepared by a soil scientist with street development plans. 4. Submit copy of proposed restrictive covenants and/or deed restrictions for review by the Meridian City Attorney. 5. Provide five -foot -wide sidewalks in accordance with City Ordinance Section 11-9-606.B. 6. Submit a letter from the Ada County Street Name Committee, approving the subdivision and street names. Make any corrections necessary to conform. Nlc GremsUnit#4.pp 0. Mayor, Council and P&Z January 8, 1998 Page 2 7. Coordinate fire hydrant placement with the Meridian Public Works Department. 8. Respond, in writing, to each of the comments contained in this memorandum prior to the January 13, 1998 hearing of the Planning & Zoning Commission. Submit ten copies of the Preliminary Plat Map with any required revisions to the City Clerk's Office a minimum of one week prior to the hearing by the Meridian City Council. SITE SPECIFIC COMMENTS - PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT 1. Sanitary sewer service to this site shall be via extensions from the existing main line in S.E. Fifth Way. Approval of this application needs to be contingent upon our ability to accept the additional sanitary sewage generated by this proposed development. Subdivision designer to coordinate main sizing and routing with the Public Works Department. Sewer manholes are to be provided to keep the sewer lines on the south and west sides of centerline. Sewer mains located within the alleyway in Block 2 shall be installed closer to the centerline of said alley. 2. Water service to this site shall be via extensions of the existing main installed in S.E. Fifth Way. Applicant will be responsible to construct the water mains to and through this proposed development. Subdivision designer to coordinate main sizing and routing with the Public Works Department. Water service to this development is contingent upon positive results from a hydraulic analysis by our computer model. 3. The conceptual engineering plan submitted with the application indicates that this development's pressurized irrigation system is going to connect to the existing system in Meridian Greens Unit No. 1, a private system. Any proposal for a supplementary connection from the City's water system will need to be reviewed closely due to the size of the area to be watered. The developer shall be responsible for the payment of assessment fees for the common areas. 4. Two -hundred -fifty -watt and/or one -hundred -watt, high-pressure sodium streetlights will be required at locations designated by the Public Works Department. All streetlights shall be installed at subdivider's expense. Typical locations are at street intersections and/or fire hydrants. 5. The alleyways currently shown as part of the lots shall be platted as common lots. A blanket easement to the City of Meridian shall be required over the alley in Block 2 for the M=Gn=UnWpp Mayor, Council and P&Z January 8, 1998 Page 3 placement and maintenance of sanitary sewer. Setbacks need to be determined from property lines. The Eight Mile Lateral shall also be platted as a common lot. Provide revised square footages based on new lot lines. SITE SPECIFIC COMMENTS - PLANNING & ZONING 1. Due to the traffic volume on S.E. Fifth Way, the planting strip on this roadway should be a minimum of 20 feet. This 20 -foot strip should be maintained as a common area to ensure uniform plantings and maintenance. No variance to the 20 -foot setback on S.E. Fifth Way should be approved. 2. A detailed landscape plan for the common areas, including fencing locations and types of construction, shall be submitted for review and approval with the submittal of the final plat map. A letter of credit or cash surety will be required for the improvements prior to signature on the final plat. 3. The wrought iron fence along Eight Mile Creek needs to be set back from the top of bank to alleviate inherent problems with eroding slopes. Construct six -foot -high, permanent, non-combustible perimeter fencing except where the City has expressly agreed, in writing, that such fencing is not necessary. Fencing is to be in place prior to applying for building permits. Fencing shall be set at the existing easement line, unless an encroachment agreement is granted by the Nampa -Meridian Irrigation District. 4. Twenty -four -foot -wide private drives are proposed to access all lots within the development. No parking will be allowed at any time along this street. The homeowners association will be responsible for enforcement of this no parking area. Failure to enforce the no parking requirement will lead to serious public safety concerns. Coordinate with the Meridian Fire Department and comply with their requirements. 5. Proposals for Planned Unit Developments must include a minimum of ten percent common area. Common open space shall mean land area exclusive of street rights-of-way, buildings, parking areas, structures, and appurtenances except those improvements which are accessible and available to all occupants of the private units within the PD. 6. Storage areas shall be provided for the anticipated needs of boats, campers and trailers. For typical residential development, one (1) adequate space shall be provided every two (2) living units. This may be reduced by City action if there is a showing that the needs of a particular development are less. MaCdw=Unit&.pp 0 Mayor, Council and P&Z January 8, 1998 Page 4 10 7. One (1) additional parking space beyond that which is required by the Zoning Ordinance may be required for every three (3) dwelling units to accommodate visitor parking. These additional spaces are shown on the plan; however, parking areas may be no closer than four feet (4') to any established street or alleyway. 8. A maintenance building or approved area shall be provided that is suitable for the services required for the repair and maintenance of all common areas. MWGM=URW4.pp WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk JANICE L. SMITH, City Treasurer GARY D. SMITH, P.E., City Engineer BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt. JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt. DENNIS J. SUMMERS, Parks Supt. SHARI L. STILES, P & Z Administrator KENNETH W. BOWERS, Fire Chief W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney iHUB0%'EASURE VALLEY COUNCIL MEMBERS A Good Place to Live WALT W. MORROW, President RONALD R. TOLSMA C CITY OF MERIDIAN GLENN R. BENTLEY 33 EAST IDAHO MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 P & Z COMMISSION Phone (208) 8884433 • FAX (208) 887-4813 JIM JOHNSON, Chairman Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211 MALCOLM MACCOY Legal Department (208) 884-4252 KEITH BORUP MARK NELSON ROBERT D. CORRIE BYRON SMITH Mayor TRANSMITTAL TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations Will be considered by the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall, Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk by: January 6. 1998 TRANSMITTAL DATE: 12/17 /97 HEARING DATE: 1/13 /98 REQUEST: Preliminary Plat for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 BY: Fuller Scott Investment Co. LOCATION OF PROPERTY OR PROJECT: NE of Meridian Greens Unit No. 1 JIM JOHNSON, P2 MALCOLM MACCOY, P2 MARK NELSON, P2 BYRON SMITH, P2 _KEITH BORUP, P2 _ROBERT CORRIE, MAYOR _RONALD TOLSMA, C/C _CHARLIE ROUNTREE, C/C _WALT MORROW, C/C _GLENN BENTLEY, C/C _WATER DEPARTMENT _SEWER DEPARTMENT _BUILDING DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICE DEPARTMENT _CITY ATTORNEY _CITY ENGINEER CITY PLANNER MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT MERIDIAN POST OFFICE(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT ADA PLANNING ASSOCIATION CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION DISTRICT SETTLERS IRRIGATION DISTRICT IDAHO POWER CO.(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) U.S. WEST(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) INTERMOUNTAIN G (PREL & FINAL PLAT) BUREAU OF R C TIO P ELIM &FIA PLA CITY FILES OTHER: YOUR CONCISE REMA KS: C E C 2 3 1997 QTY OF MERMIM WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk JANICE L. SMITH, City Treasurer GARY D. SMITH, P.E., City Engineer BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt. JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt. DENNIS J. SUMMERS, Parks Supt. SHARI L. STILES, P & Z Administrator KENNETH W. BOWERS, Fire Chief W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attomey HUB OF TREASURE VALLEY • A Good Place to Live CITY OF MERIDIAN 33 EAST IDAHO MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 Phone (208) 888-4433 " FAX (208) 887-4813 Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211 Legal Department (208) 884-4252 ROBERT D. CORRIE Mayor COUNCIL MEMBERS WALT W. MORROW, President RONALD R. TOLSMA CHARLES M. ROUNTREE GLENN R. BENTLEY P & Z COMMISSION JIM JOHNSON, Chairman MALCOLM MACCOY KEITH BORUP MARK NELSON BYRON SMITH TRANSMITTAL TO AGENCIES FOR COMMENTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE CITY OF MERIDIAN To insure that your comments and recommendations will be considered by the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission, please submit your comments and recommendations to Meridian City Hall, Attn: Will Berg, City Clerk by: January 6, 1998 TRANSMITTAL DATE: 12/17 /97 HEARING DATE: 1/13 /98 REQUEST: Preliminary Plat for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 BY: Fuller Scott Investment Co. LOCATION OF PROPERTY OR PROJECT: NE of Meridian Greens Unit No. 1 JIM JOHNSON, P/Z MALCOLM MACCOY, P2 MARK NELSON, P2 BYRON SMITH, P/Z _KEITH BORUP, P/Z _ROBERT CORRIE, MAYOR _RONALD TOLSMA, C/C _CHARLIE ROUNTREE, C/C _WALT MORROW, C/C _GLENN BENTLEY, C/C _WATER DEPARTMENT _SEWER DEPARTMENT BUILDING DEPARTMENT FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICE DEPARTMENT _CITY ATTORNEY _CITY ENGINEER CITY PLANNER JAN - 6 1993 MERIDIAN SCHOOL DISTRICT MERIDIAN POST OFFICE(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) ADA COUNTY HIGHWAY DISTRICT ADA PLANNING ASSOCIATION CENTRAL DISTRICT HEALTH NAMPA MERIDIAN IRRIGATION DISTRICT SETTLERS IRRIGATION DISTRICT IDAHO POWER CO.(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) U.S. WEST(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) INTERMOUNTAIN GAS(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) BUREAU OF RECLAMATION(PRELIM & FINAL PLAT) CITY FILES / – g} p OTHER: /— [p `7 a YOUR CONCISE REMARKS: L4 h,+ v e- 5 -1 -DE VArn rices i h4fe.5 T /3-ei -e ye– "fhec, 5-40w/c9 A J e- ,4 e s S ON F'ro 4rF A, 0 A Ac_k �h e /i�i•t rs , Thar -C IjiLL Aj&.a O L t",4- RrA�';Kc� W -C ".Th/ fA q c CN lam' D r4- MAye; A '5 f v s IU J- L r) `t O ;RQ- TN s 1Ca L Lie CQ 13.a -{Or we Ani h J J • • SUPERINTENDENT Dr. Bob L. Haley December 19, 1997 City of Meridian 33 East Idaho Meridian, Idaho 83642 Re: Meridian Greens No. 4 Subdivision Dear Councilmen: I have reviewed the application for Meridian Greens No. 4 Subdivision and find that it includes approximately 68 homes assuming a median value of $200,000. We also find that this subdivision is located in census tract 103.13 and in the attendance zone for Mary McPherson Elementary School, Lake Hazel Middle School and Eagle High School. Using the above information we can predict that these homes, when completed, will house 5 elementary aged children, 4 middle school aged children, and 5 senior high aged students. The total cost per student for newly constructed schools, excluding site purchase price and offsite improvements exceeds $5,000 per elementary student and $10,000 per middle or high school student. The Meridian School District will grant approval of this development, however this development will cause increased overcrowding in all three schools. There is little opportunity to shift attendance boundaries since the surrounding schools are also well over capacity. We are in a difficult position and need your help in dealing with the impact of growth on schools. Sincerely, Jim Carberry, Administrator of Support Programs BOARD OF TRUSTEES Rex Harrison • Wally Hedrick • Holly Houfburg • Jim Keller • Steve Mann AN CENTRAL CEIMAL DISTRICT HEALTH DEPAR-TENT DISTRICT E: I H 1 h D' 1■■ HEALTH nvironmenta eat Ivll son �FCEIVIEurn Boise k�=DEPARTMENT DEC 2 9 1997 ❑ Eagle F] Garden City Rezone # iQ1A111' T�Meridian al Use # ❑ Kuna on Prelimina / Final / Short Plat 5 U�1T ❑ ACZ ❑ 1. We have No Objections to this Proposal. ❑ 2. We recommend Denial of this Proposal. ❑ 3. Specific knowledge as to the exact type of use must be provided before we can comment on this Proposal. ❑ 4. We will require more data concerning soil conditions on this Proposal before we can comment. ❑ S. Before we can comment concerning individual sewage disposal, we will require more data concerning the depth of: ❑ high seasonal ground water ❑ waste flow characteristics ❑ or bedrock from original grade ❑ other ❑ 6. This office will require a study to assess the impact of nutrients and pathogens to receiving ground waters and/or surface waters. ❑ 7. This project shall be reviewed by the Idaho Department of Water Resources concerning well construction and water availability. ® 8. After written approval from appropriate entities are submitted, we can approve this proposal for: 41 central sewage ❑ community sewage system ❑ community water well ❑ interim sewage ,ES -central water ❑ individual sewage ❑ individual water 9. The following plan(s) must be submitted to and approved by the Idaho Department of Health & Welfare, Division of Environmental Quality: 1 central sewage ❑ community sewage system ❑ community water ❑ sewage dry lines Iff central water Run-off is not to create a mosquito breeding problem. This Department would recommend deferral until high seasonal ground water can be determined if other considerations indicate approval. If restroom facilities are to be installed, then a sewage system MUST be installed to meet Idaho State Sewage Regulations. We will require plans be submitted for a plan review for any: ❑ food establishment ❑ swimming pools or spas ❑ beverage establishment ❑ grocery store ❑ child care center O/�YN/T� �G Qi✓ �S'!ii /j %Z& -✓/e7 -W Date: r off/ ZZ /_� Reviewed By: Review Sheet [DUD 10191 rcb, rev. 7/97 23 December 1997 Will Berg, City Clerk City of Meridian 33 East Idaho Meridian, ID 83642 � • 'aFcEw(�C1 J AN 0 2 1998 "'ITY o WER1010 1503 FIRST STREET SOUTH NAMPA, IDAHO 83651-4395 FAX # 2Q0f(k?WXX 208-463-0183 Phones: Area Code 208 OFFICE: Nampa 466-7861 )&*Xxxxw)w*X SHOP: Nampa 466-0663 )WWxX)")fA xx RE: Preliminary Plat for Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 - Fuller Scott Investment Co. Dear Commissioners: The Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District's Eightmile Lateral courses along the east boundary of the project. The right-of-way of the Eightmile Lateral is 80 feet; 40 feet from the center each way. See Idaho Code 42-1208--RIGHTS-OF-WAYNOT SUBJECT TO ADVERSE POSSESSION. The developer must contact John P. Anderson or Bill Henson at 466-0663 for approval before any encroachment or change of right-of-way occurs. The Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District requires a Land Use Change/Site Development application be filed for review prior to final platting. All laterals and waste ways must be protected. All municipal surface drainage must be retained on site. If any surface drainage leaves the site, the Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District must review drainage plans. Contact Donna Moore at 466-7861 for further information. The developer must comply with Idaho Code 31-3805. It is recommended that irrigation water be made available to all developments within the Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District. Sincerely, 4KHle Water Superintendent NAMPA & MERIDIAN IRRIGATION DISTRICT BH: dln CC.* File - Shop File - Office Water Superintendent APPROXIMATE IRRIGABLE ACRES RIVER FLOW RIGHTS - 23,000 BOISE PROJECT RIGHTS - 40,000 1503 FIRST STREET SOUTH NAMPA, IDAHO 83651-4395 FAX # 2M)MMIXXX 208-463-0092 29 December 1997 Phones: Area Code 208 OFFICE: Nampa 466-7861 Tim Burgess, P.E. X"i"XXMMW NampCivil Survey Consultants SHOP:X;0&XXX466-0663 WWX P. O. Box 39 Meridian, ID 83642 RE: Land Use Change Application for The Meridian Greens,-pnit #4 Dear Mr. Burgess: Enclosed please find a Land Use Change Application for your use to file with the Irrigation District for its review on the above - referenced development. If you have any questions concerning this matter please feel free to call on me at the District's office or John Anderson, the District's Water Superintendent at the District's shop. Sincerely, '- ,dx-xl� .,7y)ef�k- Donna N. Moore, Assistant Secretary/Treasurer dnm cc: File Water Superintendent Fuller Scott Investment Co. City of Meridian enc. APPROXIMATE IRRIGABLE ACRES RIVER FLOW RIGHTS - 23,000 BOISE PROJECT RIGHTS - 40,000 - of ADA?OUNTY HIGHWAY DI Planning and Development Divisi Development Application Report Preliminary Plat - Meridian Greens No. 4/ MPP -05-97 Meridian Greens No. 4 is a 18 -lot residential subdivi the south side of Overland Road, approximately !h, n development is estimated to generate 180 additional of Transportation Engineers Trip Generation manual' Roads impacted by this development: Overland Rd & SE 5th St. -es. The site is located on Tian Road. This day based on the Institute - January 21, 1998 - 12:00 p.m. r • • SCALE 1"=300' PREPARED BY OWNER PROJECT PROPOSED MERIDIAN GREENS CIM SURVEY CONSULTANTS, INC FULLER/SCOTT INVESTMENT CO. -UNIT NO. 4- P.O. BOX 39 PO BOX 851 VICINITY MAP 15mW' STATESTATE �680 ' MERIDIAN. ID 83MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83680 MERIDIAN, IDAHO ERI (208)888-4.312 (208)888-4892 FILE: MCkWI.DWG I DATE: 11/11/97 1 SHEET: 1 OF 1 • • Civil Survey Consultants, Inc. Glenn K. Bennett, P.L.S. (208)888-4312 President P.O. Box 39 Fax 888-0323 1530 W. State Street Timothy A. Burgess, P.E. Meridian, Idaho 83680 Vice President January 13, 1997 ''Fn Bruce Freckleton, Assistant to City Engineer ./,� N QPCEl Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator 13 1998 City of Meridian 33 E. Idaho Avenue �r�r�i��ar` Meridian, Idaho 83642 Re: Meridian Greens Unit No. 4, Preliminary Plat/Planned Unit Development Dear Bruce & Shari: This letter a response to your January 8, 1998 memorandum: GENERAL COMMENTS 1. We would like for City Ordinance 11-9-605.M removed as a requirement for this subdivision. If this requirement can not be removed we request a variance from City Ordinance 11-9-605.M. to not tile the Eight -Mile Lateral. The pipe size to convey the flow for the Lateral is greater than a 48" pipe. I believe the Hunts Bluff Subdivision to the east has a variance of this ordinance. 2. To my knowledge there are no existing domestic wells and/or septic systems within the project. 3. During the fall of 1997 we excavated a test pit and installed a piezometer to monitored ground water for this site. We have included the soil and ground water information in the application. The apparent seasonal high ground water is approximately 10 feet below the existing ground. 4. The application submitted includes a draft copy of the restrictive covenants. 5. The proposed typical roadway section includes five-foot sidewalks. 6. We will submit letter of approval for the street and subdivision names. 7. We will coordinate fire hydrant placement with the Meridian Public Works Department. 8. This letter responds to the memorandum comments. Stiles/Freckleton • • 01/13/98 Page 2 of 3 SITE SPECIFIC COMMENTS — PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT 1. We will coordinate main sizing and routing with Public Works Department. The sewer main is located within the alleyway in.Block 2 because of the location of the existing manhole in SE 5' Way. We will work out an acceptable solution to the sewer main location with Public Works Department during final design. 2. We will coordinate main sizing and routing with Public Works Department. 3. The pressurized irrigation system for this development is proposed to connect to an existing system. The developer has stated that the source for this system is the canal and is not connected to the City's water system. 4. We will coordinate with Public Works Department for locations to install the specified lights. 5. We will incorporate these comments into the project. SITE SPECIFIC COMMENTS — PLANNING AND ZONING The proposed development has 20 -foot strip on the west of SE 5" Way and 15 -foot strip on the east. We will agree to increase the east strip to 20 feet and make it a common lot if the set back for the lots are measure from the line common to the right-of-way and the 20 feet common area strip; and if the 20 feet does not reduce the lot areas below 6,000 square feet. 2. We will provide a detailed landscape plans including fencing locations and types of construction with the final plat. 3. To provide a common area alleyway these improvements need constructed as* shown on the plans. Approximately 24 feet of the canal easement is need for the alleyway. This alleyway will be sloped away from the canal and will have a 6 -inch curb to prevent runoff from the development from entering the canal. We propose placing fence as shown on the plans at the easterly edge of the paved alley in or near the 6 -inch curb. We have filled out a Land Use Change Application for the Nampa - Meridian Irrigation District. If problems arise from the use of the canal easement we request that the requirement for an encroachment agreement be removed as a requirement of this subdivision. 4. We will coordinate with Meridian Fire Department to comply with their requirements. 5. The proposed site includes ten percent common area. Common area is comprised of Landscape lot and landscape easement. By changing the strip from 15 to 20 feet the common area percentage will increase slightly. Stiles/Freckleton • 01/13/98 Page 3 of 3 6. We request the storage areas be removed as a requirement of this subdivision. In keeping with the style of the development, Section 8 "Vehicle and Equipment Parking" of the covenants, do not allow vehicles and equipment to park on the street or in the area between the front plane of the dwelling unit and the street. Persons having such vehicles or equipment will either keep them in the garage or off site at a private storage area not associated with this development. 7. The proposed plan called for 12 extra spaces. Because of ACHD and your comments on the four spaces in the landscape area we propose to remove these four spaces. This will leave eight spaces satisfying the visitor parking. 8. We request the maintenance building or approved area be removed as a requirement of this subdivision. The services for repair and maintenance of common area will'be contracted and therefor there is no need for maintenance building. DEVELOPMENT REQUEST The developer request that the existing well lot, donated to the City, have a 20 -foot planting strip similar to the 20 -foot strip requested for this development. Sincerely, Civil Survey Consultants Donn Carnahan, PE 1-13-q8 �► r �z co"-. MERIDIAN GREENS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BOX 301, MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83680 Planning and Zoning Commission City of Meridian 33 East Idaho Meridian, Idaho 83642 January 13, 1998 Re: Preliminary Plat And Conditional Use Permit - Meridian Greens Unit 4 Dear Commissioners; The Meridian Greens Homeowners Association board members, representing over 200 homeowners, would like to request that the preliminary plat approval and conditional use permits applied for by Fuller Scott investment Co. for the section of land described in their application as Meridian Greens Unit No. 4 be rejected for the following reasons: 1) This proposed development would be constructed along one of Meridian Greens main entrances, SE 5th Way. This would pose a serious safety hazard with vehicular traffic parking along the road. We understand the developers' intent to provide parking to the rear of the units, however, we are convinced that this would not happen and that owners and visitors would park along this main artery making passing traffic much more congested. The current homes have large driveways adjoining the road that allow visitors to park off the road. 2) The proposed paved alley abuts existing properties with established fences and landscaping. We believe that the alley adjoining these properties poses a potential hazard during inclement weather. Vehicles negotiating the curves on slippery roads could damage the existing homeowners' properties and will increase property insurance of those homeowners needlessly. We also believe that the alley, like most alleys, will accumulate trash and debris resulting in unnecessary policing and an unsightly appearance. 3) This development would not enhance the adjoining properties and may decrease valuations. The smallest lot adjoining this proposed development is 10,800 square feet with the remaining lots in excess of 12,000 square feet. This development would impact the property valuations of these existing units due to the reduction in size of the surrounding properties. Homeowners strive for increased valuation not decreased. If these applications are approved, we ask that the following items be included in this development: 1) The existing covenants of the homes adjoining this proposed development, # 8836653 recorded in book 56 of plats, at pages 5106 through 5108 records, Ada County, Idaho, July 25, 1988, should be included for this proposed development. The following sections within this covenant should be included as a minimum: 0 a) Article II, Section 4, last paragraph; The ground floor area of the main structure, exclusive of open porches and garages, shall not be less than 1,700 square feet for a one (1) story dwelling, nor less than a total of 2,000 square feet for a split level or a two (2) story dwelling. b) Article 11, Sections 4a; All buildings shall have wood shingles, wood shakes, tile roofs or any other roofing material product that may become available in the future would definitely need to be specifically approved by the Architectural Control Committee. c) Article II, Section 4b; Each dwelling building shall be provided with a minimum of a suitable 2 car garage and a minimum of permanently maintained off street parking space of 2 cars. 2) Install a new, independent pressurized irrigation system to accommodate this development. The existing pressurized irrigation system is not capable of this increased demand and the existing homeowners do not wish to pay for the reengineering or redesign of an already poorly designed system to accommodate this development. Currently an irrigation line passes at the edge of the proposed alley along the backside of E. Antigua Drive. This line will be in danger of damage during construction and in danger of early freeze -ups due to the reduced amount of cover to insulate them and a driving surface that would drive the freezing temperatures into the ground much more rapidly. Commissioners, the existing homeowners of Meridian Greens Subdivision purchased their homes asking the question, "what is the vacant property at the entrance to the subdivision going to be?" The response, "nice professional offices." The response was not smaller lots with smaller houses that would decrease property valuations. We respectfully request that the current zoning stand and we look forward to seeing those nice professional offices as promised. Thank you for your time and consideration in this matter. 60 4ennis A. Piper Meridian Greens Homeowners Association Board Member SLObIVISION EVALUATION §EET JAN 0 9 1998 Proposed Development Name MERIDIAN GREENS UNIT 4 City T6ridiansFR101Df Date Reviewed 01/08/98 Preliminary Stage XXX Final Engineer/Developer Civil Survey / Fuller -Scott Investment Co. The Street name comments listed below are made by the members of the ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE (under direction of the Ada County Engineer) regarding this development in accordance with the Boise City Street Name Ordinance. The following existing street names shall appear on the plat: "SE. 5TH WAY" "E. OVERLAND ROAD" "E. PORT MARIA COURT" is aligned with "E. BORZOI ST." and shall carry the name "E. BORZOI COURT". See evaluation dated 11 /20/97. The above street name comments have been read and approved by the following agency representatives of the ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE. ALL of the signatures must be secured by the representative or his designee in order for the street names to be officially approved. �� ADA COUNTY STREET NAME COMMITTEE%AGENCY REPRESENTATIVES OR DESIGNEES Ada County Engineer John Priester � Date r' ' �" ?� Ada Planning Assoc. Ann Hurley ate City of Meridian Representative Date Fire District Meridian Representative Date NOTE: A copy of this evaluation sheet must be presented to the Ada County Engineer at the time of signing the "final plat", otherwise the plat will not be signed !!!! Sub Index Street Index 3N JE 19 Section K11IKARFRINr; r1F I OTq AMI RI r)rICS L //L A�lh9l7if/4��• ��4P �%YYiI�IOLLS /�i4�t f �r S TR\SUBS\SM CITY.FRM/.'-tt l W►Z %/GiiLL�. lo� %�J�s C jo— f - %?,