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Borup: Well, that's fine. Either way. I don't think it's going to change what we need to
do.
Seel: We are going to post it.
Borup: There is plenty of time to post it and give proper notification, so whether we
continue it or table it, I'm not sure --
Zaremba: If I know you're going to post it anyhow, that tells me, I think, how I want to
frame my motion.
Seel: Okay. We apologize for the inconvenience here. We just figured it was better to
have things in order, then otherwise wasting your time.
Borup: Okay.
Seel: Thank you.
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, Imove atwo-part hearing -- a two-part motion. One, that if
this was previously opened according to -- this hearing on AZ 03-025 was previously
opened as found in the records, that it be closed and, second, if it was never opened, I
move that we re-calendar it for re-noticing for the February 19th meeting.
Rohm: I will second that.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Borup: That's a wonderful motion. We have never had one like that before.
Rohm: I liked it, though. Creative.
Item 5. Public Hearing: RZ 03-012 Request for a Rezone of .85 acre from R-15
to O-T for proposed Strickland Subdivision by Roy Strickland - 1125
Main Street:
Item 6. Public Hearing: PFP 03-006 Request for Preliminary Final Plat approval
of 2 building lots on .85 acre in a proposed O-T zone for proposed
Strickland Subdivision by Roy Strickland - 1225 Main Street:
Item 7. Public Hearing: CUP 03-063 Request for a Conditional Use Permit to
allow a medical office building in a proposed O-T zone for proposed.
Strickland Subdivision by Roy Strickland - 1225 Main Street:
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Borup: Okay. Actually, Mr. Seel, that really works out probably pretty good for us. We
have got a pretty full agenda tonight and the 19th is not near as full. Okay. Next item --
project is Items 5, 6, and 7, and I'd like to open the Public Hearing RZ 03-012, request
for rezone .85 acres from R-15 to OT zoning for proposed Strickland Subdivision.
Accompanying that will be Public Hearing PFP 03-006, request for Preliminary/Final
Plat approval on two building lots and Public Hearing CUP 03-063, request for
Conditional Use Permit to allow a medical office building in a proposed OT zone. Again,
I'd like to open all three Public Hearings at this time and start with the staff report.
Powell: C hairman B orup, M embers of the Commission, I'm doing a I ittle I ast minute
pinch hitting for Steve, so, hopefully, I can get at least the highlights of the issues. This
property is, as you see, located north of Washington Street. It straddles from Main
Street to Meridian Road, has frontage on both streets. There is currently a -- currently
our pointer is not working. Yes. There is a house on the east side of the property and
currently nothing on the west side, as I understand it. The applicant is proposing a two
lot subdivision. As you see here, the house will stay on Lot 2 that fronts Main Street.
The Conditional Use Permit that accompanies this application is only on Lot 1 that faces
Meridian Road and there is an alley just to the south side of the property. Here, again,
is-the alley. This is the location for the proposed chiropractic office that will come in as
part of the CU and, then, this is the parking lot for that area. This is the detail of that
and, as you can see, there are some features to point out. There is a five foot
separated sidewalk here with trees in between the sidewalk and the street, similar to
what you see on Main Street. There is the office here and, then, the four rows of -- or
five rows of parking area and a parking lot buffer before you get to the second lot.
That's included as part of the subdivision. These are the elevations of the proposed
chiropractic office and so that would be the one that faces -- this is the one that faces
Meridian Road. No, this is the one that faces the parking lot. This is the one that faces
Meridian Road. Sorry. Then, these are the side elevations. This is what the property
owners would see from the north and, then, the alley would intervene between this one.
The drive-thru alley goes through there. Just to hit some of the highlights of the
applications. It does entail a rezone from R-15 to Old Town and the Old Town is
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan designation for the area. The Preliminary and
Final Plat, they are combined plats, since there is only two of them. As I mentioned
before, the street trees are in the -- between the sidewalk and the alley. I'm going to
come back to this in a moment, because that was one of the special considerations.
The existing house is not being modified by this application, so they are just requesting
that it remain in a residential use until such time that they want to have it not be
residential and, then, it will just have to comply with the zoning provisions at that time.
The site does have more than adequate parking for the chiropractic offices as required
by the zoning ordinance. Okay. Now, I'd like to go through some of the special
considerations on page nine of the staff report. The Sign Ordinance does not address
signs for Old Town, so we need to consider those sign requirements at this time. Steve
had asked the applicant to come prepared tonight to show what they wanted to do as
far as signs, so that you can review that and make a recommendation along with the
application to the Conditional Use Permit application to the City Council. Because we
have no standards, it would be appropriate for you all to make that recommendation.
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Hopefully the applicant will have an update on that. Right of way. ACHD has agreed to
a two-way alley in this location, so it would -- it would serve both coming in and out of
the property. I knowthat many of the ones in downtown are one way, but they are
proposing for this to be two-way and ACHD has approved that. You will see just a tiny
gap here between the property line and the landscape buffer, that's they have dedicated
additional right of way for the alley. I believe it's two feet. There seems to be some
discrepancy on the trash enclosure that the applicant will need to address tonight. On
one of the sheets it seems to be in the sewer easement, on the other one it seems to be
out of that. We just need some clarification on where that trash enclosure will be. I
seem to be having computer difficulties tonight and I'm not sure why. Okay. There we
go. The trash enclosure looks to be in this location here. The parkway buffer -- and
that's the area on the west side of the property here -- they have proposed a five foot
staff -- five foot sidewalk. Staff is proposing that that be enlarged to 10 feet. What that
would do is shift this down five feet. However, they have shown all their parking isles --
or spaces as 20 feet and, then, their parking isle is 24 feet. The City of Meridian
requires 19 feet and 25 feet. There is -- they can pick up one, two, three, four feet of
additional land by making the parking spaces the required width, but, then, they give up
two feet here. It's a net of two feet at that point but, then, in addition to that we do allow
17' foot along here if it overhangs the landscape buffer, which it does in this case, so
that gives them another two feet. They can pick up a total of four feet just by redoing
their parking layout and that only leaves one more foot that they'd have to come up with.
Staff is asking for that 10-foot walkway to be consistent with what's been done on Main
Street in that area to kind of continue that kind of streetscape for the Old Town area.
On the conditions of approval, Steve has left one that needs to be modified and that's
Condition Number 3 in reference to the signs. With your -- with your motion someone
will need to address the exact wording of that condition of approval. I think that ends
staff's presentation. I will answer any questions you may have or hopefully I can.
Mathes: I have a question. It might be for Bruce. Is pressurized irrigation available
there or do they hook up to city water?
Freckleton: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Mathes, the system is going to be hooked up
to city water. Surface irrigation waters in Old Town are mostly on rotational -- the
ditches aren't live all the time and it's rotational and unreliable.
Borup: Okay. Any other questions?
Zaremba: I do. I don't know whether it's a question or a comment, but it's a
conundrum, I'll put it that way. Steve's research is accurate that ACHD is planning to
make Meridian Road athree-lane and in some places afour-lane road. However, I also
serve on Meridian's Transportation Task Force, which every year makes a
recommendation to the City Council of what Meridian's priorities in the way of
transportation ought to be. City Council approves it or changes it or whatever and
forwards that onto ACHD, so that ACHD can pretty much ignore it. For the last four or
five years ACHD has had the recommendation from the City of Meridian that they plan
on Meridian Road eventually someday being a five lane plus parking. I like this building
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forward concept, but that would seriously alter the right of way if ACHD ever listened to
Meridian's request.
Powell: Commissioner Zaremba, Chairman Borup, they haven't been totally not
listening, because they are aware of that. We have discussed that if they were to move
that way, if the city were to make a strong case for that or insist upon that, then, what
they would do is take it on the other side. They recognize the existing constraints on
the east side of Meridian Road and their plans would be to take that wholly from the
west side. It would basically -- they would buy a lot of little houses there, but they do
plan on -- if that needs to be done, it would be done from the west side of Meridian
Road.
Zaremba: I can accept that. Thank you.
Borup: So, it looks like that's something we need to be aware of on future projects on
the west side.
Zaremba: Okay.
Borup: Okay. Anything else? Does the applicant have a presentation?
Eldridge: Charles Eldridge. I'm with Specialty Homes. We are at 2525 Stokesberry in
Meridian 83642.
Rohm: I think you will need to speak up just a bit.
Eldridge: Okay. Charles Eldridge, Specialty Homes, 2525 Meridian -- 2525
Stdkesberry in Meridian. We represent Dr. Strickland as their construction managers
and real estate brokers on this project and we are in agreement with all the conditions
that have been set forth. We have been working with Steve Siddoway and -- closely
and we feel that everything has pretty well been resolved. Basically, as it reviews in the
staff report what we are trying to do is the rezone to Old Town and, then, CUP for the
doctor's office and, then, a subdivision to divide the property in two. As far as the
monument sign, I do have copies -- or a copy here for you, but we weren't aware that
that was a separate application until Friday, so we have been working trying to get that
taken care of. We do have one proposal here. I guess I can show it to you. It's not all
that detailed. The doctor's still deciding on the colors and things like that. We got rough
colors, but --
Borup: I think that's fine. I don't know if -- we need to see what some of the
Commissioners want, but I think one of the questions was -- now, you said you're okay
with all of the staff's conditions of approval?
Eldridge: Correct.
Borup: Even on the number of signs?
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Eldridge: Yes.
Borup: Okay. That was one of the most --
Zaremba: I was going to clarify that. Staff seemed to think you were asking for two
independent signs on Meridian.
Eldridge: Right. We are, actually, only asking for one. We are eliminating the north
sign that was located on the north side of the site plan.
Zaremba: And I think monument signs have been approved pretty easily, so I don't see
that being a problem, as long as there is only one facing Meridian. I believe, though,
that's in addition to anything that you might have on the building. Although, if you have
a freestanding sign you're limited to the size of the one on the building, but you can also
have one on the building.
Eldridge: Right. Okay. Then, the only other concern that I did have is in discussing
that walk -- that walkway, it actually -- my understanding was it was actually a 10 foot
parkway between the sidewalk and the building, not a ten foot walkway, and that's the
way I think it reads, it says it's a parkway. I just wanted to clarify that, where that had
been addressed.
Borup: I had a question on that same thing.
Zaremba: Yes. I think that's Item Number 10 on Page 11 and it does say the parkway
should change from five feet to ten feet. The sidewalk would still be five feet.
Eldridge: We are just fine with that.
Borup: Okay. Do we need clarification on that? Back to the sign. This is amulti-tenant
building is that correct?
Eldridge: It will be, yes.
Borup: And are you anticipating all the tenants on that same sign?
Eldridge: Correct.
Borup: So, would it be an adequate size for you to handle that?
Eldridge: Yes. There is enough spaces there.
Borup: That was one of the staff comments, is that knowing the size or the size now
would not require a new application for any other tenants coming in because it could all
be approved at this time.
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Eldridge: Okay.
Borup: For amulti-tenant.
Eldridge: And, then, I guess there is one other thing.
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Borup: And it looks like size -- did any of the Commissioners want more detail on that
sign? Would that in be compliance with the our normal monument sign as far as height
and width and size?
Eldridge: Well, my understanding in talking with Steve that there are no set
specifications for the Old Town zones.
Borup: Right. That's correct. I mean for other areas, it looked like it would be similar to
what --
Eldridge: Yes. It's well within those parameters.
Borup: Okay. It looked like it probably was. I did not see dimensions on it.
Eldridge: Yes. It's basically six foot wide by four foot high.
Borup: Okay.
Zaremba: One of the conditions is reminding you that there is a separate sign permit
process, so I'm not sure we need to actually approve the -- just the agreement that
you're only planning on one of them is as far as we probably need to go.
Eldridge: Right.
Zaremba: And, then, you will make a separate plan for design?
Eldridge: Yes. What we were attempting to do for that is we just found out that we
didn't want to have to go through a whole additional CUP process just for the sign.
Zaremba: I think that's a staff level approval, isn't it?
Powell: The issue Chairman Borup, Commissioner Zaremba is that we have no
standards so it's up to you to de~ide the number, size, type of wall signs and the
monument sign.
Zaremba: Would you like to make a recommendation that we could say for this property
it should be the same as L-O zone?
Powell: That would suffice. That would be fine.
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Zaremba: Is that the right zone?
Powell: That would probably work well, yes.
Borup: And it looks like what you propose is well within those criteria, so --
Eldridge: And then just one other clarification. The trash enclosure, it just looks like the
layers on the drawings got mixed up a little bit, but it will be out of the sewer easement,
the trash enclosure. She had addressed that as well. It will not be in the sewer
easement, so --
Zaremba: Okay.
Borup: Okay. I think that probably answers the questions. Anything else from any of
the Commissioners? I think this will be one of the first -- well, no, I guess not. Yes, one
of the first new buildings in Old Town in this area.
Zaremba: Yes.
Borup: Thank you, Mr. Eldridge.
Eldridge: Thank you.
Borup: Do we have anyone else to testify of this application? Okay. Seeing none --
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move that these three hearings, Items 5, 6 and 7 on our
agenda be closed.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close all three hearing. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Zaremba: Mr.Chairman,l movethatweforwardtotheCityCouncilrecommending
approval of Item 5 on our agenda, RZ 03-012, request for a rezone of .85 acre from R-
15 to OT for proposed Strickland Subdivision by Roy Strickland, 1125 Main Street, to
include all staff comments of their memo for hearing date of January 15`h, with no
changes.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
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Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move we forward to the City Council recommending
approval of Item 6 on our agenda, PFP 03-006, request for Preliminary/Final Plat
approval of two building lots on .85 acre in a proposed OT zone for proposed Strickland
Subdivision b y R oy S trickland, 1 225 M ain S treet. O n t he p revious i tem i t w as 1 125
Main Street. Can we get a clarification on that?
Borup: Okay.
Zaremba: I will continue with this motion. 1225 Main Street. To include all of the staff
comments of their memo for the hearing date of January 15, 2004, with the following
changes: The -- I take that back. There are no changes on the Preliminary Plat. End of
motion.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move we forward to the City Council recommending
approval of Item 7 on our agenda, CUP 03-063, request for a Conditional Use Permit to
allow a medical office building in a proposed OT zone for proposed Strickland
Subdivision by Roy Strickland, 1225 Main Street. To include all staff comments of their
memo of January 15, 2004, with the following changes. On Page 1 1, condition of
approval Number 3, the first paragraph can be deleted. I'm sorry. The first sentence of
the paragraph can be deleted and the second sentence of the paragraph should read:
One freestanding sign on Meridian Road will be allowed for the project as presented
during the hearing. The second change is on Page 12 to Item 13 and I would amend
the first sentence to read all signage shall be in accordance with the standards for an L-
Ozone set forth in this report and Section 11-14 of City Zoning and Development
Ordinance. The second sentence remains. End of motion.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Borup: Okay. Thank you.
Powell: Chairman Borup, Members of the Commission, we are having some computer
difficulties here, so it might just be a second before the next one can --
Borup: Okay.
CITY OF MERIDIAN
PUBLIC HEARING
SIGN-UP SHEET
DATE January 15, 2004 ITEM #
PROJECT NUMBER
CUP 03-063
7
PROJECT NAME
Strickland Subdivision
NAME (PLEASE PRI
FOR IAGAINSTINEUTRAL
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