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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2013-03-05~~E IDIAN--- CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING AGENDA Tuesday, March 05, 2013 at 7:00 PM 1. Roll-Call Attendance X David Zaremba X Brad Hoaglun X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird X Mayor Tammy de Weerd 2. Pledge of Allegiance and by Scout Troop 285 3. Community Invocation by Bruce Barfuss with the LDS Church 4. Adoption of the Agenda Adopted 5. Consent Agenda Approved (Pg 2-4) A. Approve Minutes of February 19, 2013 City Council Regular Meeting B. Approve Minutes of February 26, 2013 City Council PreCouncil Meeting C. Approve Minutes of February 26, 2013 City Council Regular Meeting D. Award of Bid and Approval of Agreement to Dahle Construction LLC for "Well 24 Ftush Line -Construction" for the Not-To-Exceed Amount of $49,254.00 E. Acceptance Agreement for Display of Artwork of David R. Day in Initial Point Gallery from March 1 to March 29, 2013 F. Mutual Fee Waiver Agreement Between the City of Meridian and the Meridian Joint School District No. 2 G. Final Order for Approval: FP 13-004 Paramount Subdivision No. 22 by Brighton Development, Inc. Located East of N. Fox Run and North of W. Gable Street Request: Final Plat Consisting of 38 Single-Family Residential Building Lots and 5 Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda -Tuesday, March 05, 2013 Page 1 of 4 All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing, please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. Common/Other Lots on 14 Acres of Land in an R-8 Zoning District H. Amended Agenda to Read: Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Approval: PP 12-016 Fall Creek Subdivision by Coleman Homes, LLC Located South of W. Overland Road on the East Side of S. Linder Road Request: Preliminary Plat Consisting of 297 Building Lots and 30 Common /Other Lots on 111.26 Acres of Land in an R-8 Zoning District I. Final Order for Approval: TEC 13-001 Baraya by Dyver Development, LLC Located South Side of W. Franklin Road, Between N. Black Cat Road and N. Ten Mile Road Request: Two (2) Year Time Extension to Obtain the City Engineer's Signature on the Final Plat for Baraya Subdivision J. Resolution No. 13-912: CPAM 12-005 Cavanaugh by W.H. Moore Company Located Southeast Corner of S. Meridian Road and E. Victory Road Request: Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan to Change the Future Land Use Map Designation on 32 +/- Acres of Land from Mixed Use Neighborhood with a Neighborhood Center Overlay to Medium Density Residential; and From Medium Density Residential to Medium High Density Residential K. Resolution No. 13-913: CPAM 12-006 Larkspur West by Sawtooth Land Surveying, LLC Located 105 E. Edmonds Court Request: Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan to Change the Future Land Use Map Designation on 4.51 Acres of Land from Low Density Residential to Office (1.01 Acres) and Medium Density Residential (3.50 Acres) L. Resolution No. 13-914: VAC 13-001 Southeast Corner Gateway Marketplace No. 2 by The Land Group, Inc. Located Southeast Corner of E. Ustick Road and N. Eagle Road Request: Vacate a Portion of the Public Domestic Water Easement Platted on Lot 4, Block 1 Southeast Corner Marketplace Subdivision No. 2 (File #FP 07-020) M. Resolution No. 13-915: Authorizing the City Clerk to Destroy Certain Semi-Permanent and Temporary Records of the Meridian Police Department. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda -Tuesday, March 05, 2013 Page 2 of 4 All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing, please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. 6. Community Items/Presentations A. Audit Report by Kevin Smith with Eide Bailly (Pg 4-9) B. Dairy Days Event and Parade Discussion (Pg 9-22) C. Settlers Park Horseshoe Courts Naming Discussion Motion approved to name as Don Titcomb Memorial Horseshoe Courts (Pg 22-26) 7. Items Moved From Consent Agenda None 8. Action Items A. Continued from February 19, 2013: MDA 12-009 Southridge by The Land Group Located South of W. Overland Road Between S. Ten Mile Road and S. Linder Road Request: Public Hearing: Modification to the Development Agreement Approved (Pg 26- 31) B. FP 13-007 Kingsbridge Subdivision No. 3 by BHH Kingsbridge, LLC Located East of S. Eagle Road, Midway Between E. Victory Road and E. Amity Road Request: Final Plat Approval Consisting of 36 Single-Family Residential Building Lots and Three (3) Common/Other Lots on 19.51 Acres of Land in an R-4 Zoning District Continued to March 19, 2013 (Pg 31-32) C. FP 13-008 Karmelle Subdivision by Providence Management, LLC Located South Side of E. Victory Road, East of S. Eagle Road Request: Final Plat Consisting of 43 Single-Family Residential Building Lots and Nine (9) Common Lots on Approximately 16.18 Acres of Land in an R-4 Zoning District Approved (Pg 32-33) D. FP 13-003 Canterbury Commons Subdivision by Northside Management Located South Side of W. Pine Avenue, East of N. Ten Mile Road Request: Final Plat Approval Consisting of 38 Single-Family Residential Building Lots and Four (4) Common Lots on Approximately 8.46 Acres of Land in an R-15 Zoning District Approved (Pg 33-34) 9. Department Reports Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda -Tuesday, March 05, 2013 Page 3 of 4 All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing, please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. A. Joint Department Report: Settlers Park Parking Access to Ustick Road Discussion Motion Approved to Grant Waiver (Pg 34-37) 10. Ordinances A. Ordinance No. 13-1546: ZOA 12-003 Sign Code Text Amendment by City of Meridian Community Development Planning Division Request: Amend Sections of the City's Current Standards for Signs Approved (Pg 37-38) 11. Future Meeting Topics Adjourned at 8:43 p.m. Meridian City Council Meeting Agenda -Tuesday, March 05, 2013 Page 4 of 4 All materials presented at public meetings shall become property of the City of Meridian. Anyone desiring accommodation for disabilities related to documents and/or hearing, please contact the City Clerk's Office at 888-4433 at least 48 hours prior to the public meeting. Meridian City Council March , 2013 A meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:00 p.m., Tuesday, March 5, 2013, by Mayor De Weerd. Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, Brad Hoaglun, David Zaremba, Keith Bird and Charlie Rountree. Others Present: Bill Nary, Jaycee Holman, Bruce Chatterton, Clint Dolsby, Tracy Basterrechea, Mark Niemeyer, Mike Barton, Stacy Kilchenmann and Dean Willis. Item 1: oll-call Attendance: Roll call. X David Zaremba X Brad Hoaglun X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird X Mayor Tammy de Weerd De Weerd: Okay. We will go ahead and start tonight's meeting. Thank you all for joining us. For the record it's Tuesday, March 5th. It's 7:03. We will start with roll call attendance. Oh, we are not on. Sorry, Madam Clerk. I don't need to start over again, right? Okay. Roll call attendance, Madam Clerk. Item ledge of Allegiance and by Scout Troop 285 De Weerd: Item No. 2 is our Pledge of Allegiance and we are going to be led in the Pledge of Allegiance by William Fitzgerald and he is with Troop 285. If you will all rise and join us in the pledge to our flag. (Pledge of Allegiance recited.) De Weerd: And, William, if I could ask you to come up. I do have a City of Meridian pin for you. Item 3: Community Invocation by race arfuss with the L Church De Weerd: Item No. 3 is our community invocation. Tonight we will be led by Bruce Barfuss with the LDS church. If you will all join us in the community invocation or take this as an opportunity for a moment of reflection. And if you will come up to the microphone. Thank you for being here. Barfuss: Our Father in Heaven, we are indeed thankful this opportunity that we have to meet in this City Council meeting for the City of Meridian this evening. Grateful for Mayor de Weerd and Council Members Zaremba, Bird, Hoaglun and Rountree, for the service and the efforts that they put into the development and the administrative needs of this great city. We are grateful for them and their service. We are grateful for those Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 2 of 39 who are in attendance this evening to present ideas and thoughts and plans as to projects that are being worked on in the community and planned for. We pray that thou wilt bless them with -- with the ability to communicate their plans and ideas effectively and efficiently and that a spirit of understanding and cooperation and peace may be present this evening in this meeting. We are, indeed, thankful for our leaders of our state and country and for the leaders of the world. We ask thee to bless them with inspiration and divine guidance in managing the affairs of government throughout this area and the world, that blessings of peace may increase in our community and throughout the world. We are grateful for the blessings of this area, for the great community that we have friend, the friendships, the families that live here, and for the support that we offer one another. We pray for thy divine guidance in all our of activities, discussions, and presentations this evening and this is our prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. De Weerd: I'd like to offer you a City of Meridian pin as well for joining us this evening. Item Adoption of the Agenda De Weerd: Item No. 4 is adoption of the agenda. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Hoaglun: A couple items for tonight. Under the Consent Agenda, 5-H is -- we need that to read Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for approval and strike the final order for approval on preliminary plat 12-016. 5-J is Resolution No. 13-912. 5-K is Resolution No. 13-913. 5-L is Resolution No. 13-914. 5-M is Resolution No. 13-915. Under Action Items, Item B will be -- there is a request to continue until March 19th and we can handle that at the appropriate time. And under Item 10, Ordinances, 10-A is Ordinance No. 13-1546. So, with that, Madam Mayor, I move adoption of the agenda as amended. Rountree: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as amended. All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item Consent Agenda pprove inutes February 19, 2013 City Council eulr Meeting Approve inutes ebruary 6, 2013 City Council reouncil Meeting Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 3 of 39 C. Approve inutes of February 26, 2013 City Council Regular Meeting ward of Bid and Approval of Agreement to Dahle Construction LLC for "Well 2 Flush Line -Construction" for the Not-To-Exceed Amount of $49,254.00 ccetance Agreement for Display of Artwork of David .Day in Initial oint Gallery from March 1 to arch 29, 2013 F. utual Fee fiver Agreement Between the City of eridian and the Meridian Joint chool District No. 2 I. Final rder for Approval: TE 13-001 Baraya by Dyver eveloment, LLC Located South fide of .Franklin Road, Between lack Cat Road and N. Ten file Road Request: Two () Year Time xtension o Obtain the City ngineer's Signature on the Final lat for Baraya Subdivision Resolution o. 13-913: C 12-006 Larkspur est y atooth Land Surveying, LLC Located 105 E. Edmonds Court Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 4 of 39 equest: Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan to Change the Future Land Use ap Designation on 4.51 Acres o Land from Low Density esidential to ®ffice (1.01 Acres) and Medium Density Residential (3.50 Acres) esolution No. 13-915: Authorizing the City Clerk to Destroy Certain Semi-Permanent and Temporary ecords of the eridin Police epartment. De Weerd: Item 5 is our Consent Agenda. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Hoaglun: As noted 5-H will read Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law, for approval, striking final order for approval. 5-J is Resolution No. 13-912. 5-K is Resolution No. 13- 913. 5-L is Resolution No. 13-914 and 5-M is Resolution No. 13-915. With that I move approval of the Consent Agenda and the Mayor to sign and Clerk to attest. Rountree: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. If there is no discussion, Madam Clerk. Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 6: Community Items/ resentations Audit Report by Kevin ith with ide ailly De Weerd: Item 6-A is our audit report and, Stacy, I will turn this over to you. Kilchenmann: Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'd like to introduce Kevin Smith. He is our audit partner for Eide Bailly and he's going to give our audit report. And everyone here Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 5 of 39 is just in for a big treat that they came on audit report night. So, I will turn it over to Kevin. De Weerd: I think sometimes only our finance director thinks numbers are interesting. Even though we do, too. But -- hi, Kevin. Smith: Hello. That was a good introduction. Thank you for the opportunity to be here, Madam Mayor and Members of the Council. I'm privileged to report on your audit results for the fiscal year ended September 30th, 2012, and I believe you have the report in front of you. There is a few pages that we will -- that we will go through, but I will be brief. First of all, we issued an unqualified or a clean opinion on the financial statement. Management and all those who worked with us were very helpful and responsive to our requests, as they always are. We issued a -- also a separate letter, a governance letter which describes and talks about our procedures and some of our requirements and our required communications and specifically related to the federal funds that you received and the internal control letter and a letter of compliance that followed and, of course, the back of the financial statement. Also one note that I did kind of a highlight as far as the federal funds, I noted that in the -- the current year federal money that come through the city was about 1.4 million dollars and in the prior year that was about 700,000. So, that is, you know, a significant increase in the federal dollars and a lot of that is, you know, because of the -- of the IRRA funds that were available and, you know, it's good that that money is available and you can spend it, but it does cause a few more audit requirements, you know, to follow and a little bit more time to get through, you know, some of those -- those funds that had -- you know, specifically earmarked by the federal government. De Weerd: We are reminded about that often. Smith: Right. Yeah. There are more compliance requirements for everyone. But it's still, you know, money that's available and can be used on projects and so it's great that you take advantage of that money and, you know, hopefully, you will continue to, you know, apply for additional grants and assistance from the federal government. Just a couple of highlights and I want to spend, you know, the time tonight in the management discussion analysis, because it gives a good synopsis of what occurred during the year. One of the things, obviously, that occurred and that has increased your balance sheet significantly was the -- you know, the donation of the park and that was about 25 million. So, your balance sheet, you know, it showed it as an asset and also on your income statement as a revenue, as a contribution, you know, so it kind of boosted both -- you know, both the balance sheet and the income statement in a positive manner and, then, on page -- page five I noted just the -- kind of the change in the -- as you look at that, you know, it's kind of a summary of your governmental activities and business-type activity that's just a snapshot of your -- really, you know, what's the balance sheet, you know, the assets and liabilities and equity and you can see, you know, that park, the effect and the capital assets, you know, that increased from 86 -- from 62 million to about 86 million and most of that is that park and, then, again at the very bottom your total net asset is you go from 86 million to 114 million, again, is, you know, the Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 6 of 39 contribution of that park. On page -- on page six, as you look down comparing specifically the governmental activities, you know, 2012 to 2011, you know, again, you know, that park obviously jumps out at 26 million dollars and, then, the expenses and the administration, of course, you know, some legal expenses that went through 2011 that kind of skewed that number and about three million dollar change. Page -- page nine (thought -- there is a highlight there that I wanted to point out and I'd like to compare, you know, over the past few years and what's occurred at the City of Meridian and in the note kind of on the -- in the margin on the left-hand it states in fiscal year 2011 the capital assets and depreciation totaled 53.8 million dollars. In 2012 that same line item totaled 186 million. You know, that just kind of demonstrates the growth over the last -- the last ten years. You know, very very positive. And, then, you look at the graph and you can see, you know, those capital additions in your proprietary funds. On page 11 you can see in the proprietary funds, you know, some of the decrease in the -- in total expenditures of one percent, you know, which I think is great, because that means that you're paying attention, you know, to -- to the operations of the city and so, you know, to see, you know, the growth still happening and, you know, it's noted in here about, you know, some constant growth and continued growth and it's picking up a little bit and we can see that, but your operating expenses, you know, have held -- have held true and held very consistent. On page 14 and 15 there is -- there is some graphs that I wanted to highlight and these are on 14 you're talking about the residential building permits and, then, on 15 with the commercial building permits and you note, you know, for fiscal year 2012 you will see that both of those have increased, which, you know, is a good sign and that's a sign of good growth and good -- you know, I think some good steady growth that's going to -- we are going to see in the future. Maybe not quite, you know, the way we thought a few years ago. But, you know, some good constant growth. So, that was -- that was good news. And, then, on page 16, finally, we get to the budget and, you know, again, you know, you set the budget and, obviously, you pay attention to that budget, because, you know, your end result is, you know, three percent under budget and your personnel expenses and, then, a four percent decrease or -- under budget in your operating expenditures. So, that -- you know, that shows, you know, fiscal responsibility and these are the, you know, costs that can be controlled. You know, in government a lot of the revenue you just kind of get what -- what's given to you and, you know, if people move in you have some building permits and other residential things from growth and your revenue base will go up, but the -- the cost side, the expense side is where you have some control and you can -- you can reduce those, increase them, and have more control than you do on the revenue side. So, I commend you for coming in, you know, less than budget, because that means you pay attention to that and i know that you do, because I -- you know, Stacy keeps me informed of that during the year. But with that I would open it up to any questions that you may have of me relating to the audit and procedures or to the financial statements themselves. De Weerd: Council, any questions? Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 7 of 39 Bird: I have no questions, just another nice audit, Kevin. We appreciate the work you and your staff do down there and we appreciate what our finance department does, too. Stacy and her staff does a great job and I appreciate the audits we get and I'm proud of the results we get. Thank you. Smith: Thank you. And you should be -- should be proud, it is a -- it's, you know, a great picture that's painted in the financial statements of where you guys have come and it's been, you know, a long road, but it's been a good one, because, you know, the results show that and, you know, I concur with the -- you know, the comments you make about Stacy and all those that we work with, they are great and they take it very serious and, you know, I know they ask you guys questions and during the year guys ask them also and so, you know, they take it very serious and so we appreciate that, because that means controls are in place. De Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: I -- just a thank you and, again, I'm quite pleased with the results and Stacy and staff and the rest of the departments in the city that take -- take a look at operating costs and their budgets and hold fast to them and try to come in under. I think audits, again, is demonstration that we have done that and I don't know that we could ask far anything more, except maybe some more revenue. Zaremba: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: I want to thank you for your work that you put into this as well. Meridian, of course, stays pretty stable because Stacy helps us stay very stable. She's a driving force behind reminding us where we need to be with budgets and when anything comes up that may be an audit issue we talk about that as well, but I appreciate her work and I appreciate your work and your validations that what she is doing is excellent. In relation to that I may put you on a little -- on the spot a little bit. I'm sure you do audits for other cities and Ijust -- how do we compare to other cities? Are we doing well or are cities doing as well or -- that may not be within your purview to give that opinion, but I'm just curious if you can. Smith: Yeah. I can -- I can give you a comparison without saying names, but you guys are -- in my opinion are at the top and your financial results show it. I just -- from the ones that we are involved with and, you know, that includes just some counties, cities, and school districts, I don't think there is a comparison. Zaremba: Very nice to hear. Thank you. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 8 of 39 De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Hoaglun: Not that they want to keep the contract, though, Councilman Zaremba. Nothing to do with -- no. Kevin, I just had a question. I know you -- our finance department looks at this and you guys stay on top of it, but are there anymore federal requirements coming down the pike, .whether from GATB or somebody else that we kind of should be looking out for that might get finalized or anything or are things fairly stable out there right now? Smith: It's pretty stable and, you know, we do watch that pretty close and there are -- I mean there is always new pronouncements coming out, but, you know, nothing's that really had -- that will have a direct effect on you, you know, in the next year. Hoaglun: Okay. Smith: I mean that's kind of, you know, what we look out, you know, for the next year and we would, obviously, you know, let Stacy know if there were. You know, the biggest change that we will see is actually audit standards and we have some new what they call clarity standards that supposedly clarify some of the things that we do, which that's not -- hasn't been the case and those started at 12/31, so we are actually auditing under those new standards now, but, you know, mostly from an audit standpoint than it is, you know, a pronouncement standpoint. Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you. De Weerd: Well, I think, Kevin, we have appreciated our relationship with you and your company. I know that Stacy and you talk throughout the year and you keep her apprised as to anything that is coming down the pike. I would love to have your crystal ball to know that there is no changes over the next year, but I hope you're right on that. We do have a solid finance team and certainly appreciate our CFO and she is an excellent gatekeeper that keeps us all on the straight and narrow whether it's through our grants or through our budget processes. So, we appreciate you coming here tonight and presenting the audit. I also appreciate you sharing about our park donation, because that was one of the questions I did have. So, thank you for doing that. Smith: You bet. Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: Could I say something? Kevin, I got to give you a lot of credit for the way we are -- the way our audits and stuff go, because in '98 when we hired you the first time we didn't have very good bookkeeping in the City of Meridian and we was getting hit pretty hard and fast and you come in and at least give us to outline of how to do it and you Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 9 of 39 have been with us ever since '98. Smith: Yeah. Bird: And I certainly have appreciated everything you have done for the city -- Smith: Thank you. Bird: -- and the way it is and you have helped us do the right things. Thank you. Smith: Thank you. Yeah. The first year was a little difficult, wasn't it? Bird: That was before Stacy. De Weerd: Well, thank you again. Smith: Thank you. airy ays vent and rade ®iscussion De Weerd: Okay. Item 6-B is the Dairy Days event and parade discussion. I know the board is here. I'd invite you to come forward. Hans, we appreciate you being here. Bruijn: Madam Mayor, Gentlemen of the City Council, my name is Hans Bruijn and I am part of the dairy board and I have been organizing the Dairy Days parade longer than I care to remember. We -- just the other day I had a lady that worked for me at the Western Idaho Fair and she went through some paperwork and she was the Meridian High School Marching Band mom and she found a little note that said call Hans Bruijn for questions about the parade. That daughter, who was in high school, is now 36. This parade has gone downtown Meridian for the past 80 plus years, has kind of become a victim of its own success. We estimate there is about 15 to 20 thousand people come into town. One of the ways we know about it is the United Dairymen of Idaho hands out milk. I think last year they handed out close to 20,000 bottles of milk. So, that's a good way to see how many people are there. But regardless of the size, you know, safety is always our first concern and we have had a great working relationship with the Meridian Police Department and we sure appreciate that. We knew this year with the construction on Meridian Road that it will create a whole new set of problems and I was notified earlier -- or basically last fall by ACHD and they recommended very strongly to find an alternate route, so we spend -- you know, as the dairy board we spent a lot of time looking and driving and looking at maps and we just could not find a route that seemed viable and so we considered canceling the parade. Feedback was almost immediately. I got a lot of e-mails, Facebook, opposed to cancelling the parade. Got a lot of moms that said, you know, this is the only parade we take our kids to, it's, you know, in the evening, it's a nice temperature, it's not early in the morning and cold. Obviously, ACHD got a few calls, too, because I received a call from Bruce Wong, the director of ACHD, who contacted me to let me know that if the Mayor and City Council Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 10 of 39 would agree on shutting down Main Street for about three hours on that Friday they would honor that decision. Our current dairy princess and her 4-H Club, they went and did a survey of all the businesses along the parade route. There was about ten of them that were closed, but the result even surprised us. There was 54 businesses that signed the questionnaire, 52 in favor of shutting down Main Street, one had no opinion, and one was opposed to it. Last week Marty Hill, one of the other board members, and I, we met with a representative of the Mayor and with the Meridian Police Department. They also suggest two alternate routes. We looked at those. The first one was just too short for any consideration. The second one is using the current staging area, which is Water Tower and Stratford, and, then, take Franklin, 3rd Street, Pine and, then, Locust Grove back to Water Tower. So, we -- you know, after the meeting we looked at that. We, you know, took a serious look at it. However, I do -- we do have some very serious concerns with that route. The parking for one, streets -- 3rd Street is a fairly narrow street, finding, you know, that amount of place for people to sit, parking. And, then, the other thing I'm kind of worried about is how many complaints police, I, you will get for shutting down Locust Grove, which is an important north-south route over the freeway. I think you may get more problems than -- shutting down Locust Grove than you would Main Street. The other thing is that that route will take the public away from downtown Meridian. Something, obviously, the businesses make very clear they do not want us to do and I'm sure with all the construction this year and all the potential customers avoiding Meridian altogether, this would be another setback for those businesses. The other thing it takes the parade -- the parade there would take it away from the dairy grounds and Storey Park. This year after the trouble we had last year with our carnival, we got a brand new carnival coming, it looks very good, we got a lot of activity planned for Storey Park and we really want to explore those businesses that come out and by taking it basically away from that area I think that will be negatively impacted. So, it's, basically, the dairy board's position that we really prefer to use the regular route or, otherwise, we will probably be better off canceling this year's parade. Do you have any questions, comments? De Weerd: Well, I guess I do, Hans. What do you see the alternative routes of the traffic coming off the highway that want to go north? How do you see them going? And certainly -- and meeting with our police department and I don't know if our fire department was there and certainly I would ask the chief -- we have no way of moving our emergency personnel north-south without going to Locust Grove or to Linder and if it's central to our community where -- where do we move our emergency personnel? And I think that's the basis of it. I understand tradition and the importance of this parade. We get hundreds, if -- thousands of people that come to your Dairy Day parade. It's kind of a staple in our community for sure. But our first priority is emergency response and I think that's what the concern of ACRD was when they shared their opinion and it certainly has to be our number one priority as well. So, had you talked about how we would move emergency personnel and how we would move the people coming off the freeway through our community? Bruijn: Well, ACRD has done a great job in the past by signing and letting the public know to basically avoid that area if you're coming home, you know, to and from work. I Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 11 of 39 know in the past -- and, of course, I can't speak for -- you know, for the Meridian police and the fire department, they have had emergencies as they were, you know, in the parade, they did a good job getting around to -- around it, but I cannot speak for the police and fire department. De Weerd: So, that was a part of the discussion that you had last week? Bruijn: Fire wasn't there, no. Huh-uh. So -- and I'm sure -- I know John's here, he -- De Weerd: Okay. We will save that for them. Council, do you have any questions for Hans? Bird: Madam Mayor, I don't have a question, but -- De Weerd: If you will, please, speak in -- Bird: I don't have any questions, but I have to divulge that I am a member of the Meridian Dairy Show board. De Weerd: We will not hold that against you. Bird: I know. Bruijn: We might. De Weerd: No questions from Council? Rountree: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Yes. Rountree: Just to clarify what it is you're asking and that's a blessing from the city to maintain the route on Main Street? Bruijn: Correct. Rountree: From what point to what point? Bruijn: It's basically like last year, they come in from Franklin to Water Tower, Stratford, Franklin, to Fairview, back on 2 1/2 Street and, then, the little zigzag to 3rd Street, back onto Franklin. The other thing we have to remember is that we do need a complete circle around. We need to be able to -- we can't just start at one end of town and finish at the other end of town, because several of the entries -- especially with a lot of kids, they need to have a way back to the staging area. De Weerd: You know, Hans, as I looked at it several weeks ago we looked at Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 12 of 39 maintaining the staging area in the park and the speedway and using the -- kind of the neighborhood area between Main and 3rd clear up to the railroad tracks as a great staging area, but -- because I know you need quite a bit of staging area. Bruijn: We need at least a mile. De Weerd: Now as far as the route itself to go from the park down to Baltic -- so, down Franklin To Baltic and from Baltic to Water Tower, back to the speedway, which gives about a mile and a half of parade route and that's just a guestimate. I didn't go and do a map on it, but that's a mile and a half where Main has been the only route, although we use 3rd Street to return, so you're adding a half a mile that people can participate and watch the parade. It has business access to it with good parking, with people getting there early enough. It has sidewalks that people can watch the parade on. It doesn't have shade, but did you consider that route? Bruijn: No, we did not. We didn't think it was long enough. If we do include -- because we have to remember, you know, the parade is an hour and a half long, so we have to have a certain mileage to make sure that, you know, the beginning of the parade doesn't interfere with the middle or end of the parade. De Weerd: And I would imagine if you stage it right the ones coming out as new -- are the ones -- the ones are returning, you wouldn't have that conflict and, you know, I know the length was a concern, but there is at least a third of a mile or three-fourths of a mile to Baltic, then, you have, I don't know, less than a quarter of a mile to Baltic to get to the police department and, then, back to the speedway, there is another three-quarters of a mile, so -- and that would all be available parade route and, again, it's just an opinion, but -- Bruijn: Right. De Weerd: -- I don't want to see you cancel it, but I do know there is a concern to that core area and how we can get traffic and safety personnel through it, maintaining the safety of our community. Bruijn: Correct. Yeah. But we -- and we -- we also want to support the businesses downtown. So, that is one -- strong suggestion as why we want to keep it on Main Street, because they made it very clear to us they did not want to see us move the parade out of Main Street and I think with all the trouble they have gone through I don't think two and a half, three hours to shut it down is too much to ask and I -- like I said, I cannot talk for fire or police -- for the police department, but that would be their -- their opinion, so -- Rountree: Madam Mayor. Hans, if I understood you correctly, then, there has been no consideration given to reducing the number of entries? So, is it no holds barred that a mile not be -- might not be -- Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 13 of 39 Bruijn: No. We already have a limit and if we -- we have maybe the option to go to maybe 75, but it will still make it an hour or better -- an hour to an hour and 15 minutes and at this point we are at a hundred entries, which is an hour and a half, which is the time length that KTVB give us. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Hoaglun: Question, Hans. You had mentioned parking on one of the alternate routes the police department had mentioned. For either route there is no designated parking for the parade, people pretty much park where ever they -- Bruijn: Correct. Yeah. Hoaglun: Okay. So, it's just parking for the staging area, of course, where people come to drop off staging -- Bruijn: Right. Hoaglun: -- everyone else who is watching the parade, they just -- Bruijn: They are on their own, so -- Hoaglun: Okay. Zaremba: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: On that -- on that same subject you mentioned that the one alternate route that you did consider -- one of the things that you didn't like about it was that there wasn't spectator parking and stuff. I realize this is a unique situation this year, but I'm sure you have looked at what's possible -- what's going on on Meridian Road. There is only one way across Meridian Road at the moment, which is Pine. So, all of the people who would traditionally come and line up on Main Street to watch the parade that come from the west, are not going to be able to come -- park on Meridian Road or park back in those neighbors and cross Meridian Road -- there are big ditches across Meridian Road. So, the only way across Meridian Road is Pine Street. Everybody that comes to the parade would have to come across Pine Street and, then, the route spread out along Main Street. So, I don't see that as a better solution. To me it's very important to have the parade. I don't want to see it canceled. This is an extraordinary situation and I really would like to see more consideration given to alternate routes. I'm not convinced that business as usual is going to work under this circumstance. So, I understand the need of having a lot of staging area. I understand the need of having a parade route that makes a loop. I might suggest if you would reconsider using the staging areas that Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 14 of 39 you traditionally have and I think you described coming up Pine -- I mean coming up 3rd, going east on Pine and, then, south on Locust Grove to Water Tower, if you need a longer parade you could actually go down to the street that the -- the school district is on, which I think is Central and, then, come back up Stratford, that would add another maybe quarter of a mile to the thing. But Ijust -- it's -- I realize that a parade is a thing that has momentum and even though it's been going for many years, if you cancel it for one year, it's awful tough to get it started again. Somebody mentioned to me the word that parades are fragile, which they are, and even all the organization isn't -- I'm not very much in just plain favor of any of them, but I really would like to encourage some consideration of an alternate route. I just -- to me this is the wrong year to close Main and have all the people trying to find their way to get onto Main, if they were to come watch it. We do, by the way, have representatives of ACHD here who would be glad to discuss the impact on alternate routes and we still have not heard from police and fire, but Ijust -- I don't want to see it canceled, but I would strongly urge you to look again at the alternates. None of them are going to be perfect. Using Main Street isn't perfect, even when Meridian Road is available. But with Meridian Road closed and our responsibility for public safety, that's a difficult one for me, so -- Bruijn: And one of the reasons why -- before we met with the -- last week we didn't consider Locust Grove because we didn't think we'd ever get permission to shut it. De Weerd: Yeah. Zaremba: I personally don't have any problem with that. Of course ACRD is the final word on the permit, but I wouldn't have any problem recommending trying it. And then -- and I'm not saying forever. The next year it comes back. Bruijn: Oh. Oh. Right. Right. I know next year we will be back. De Weerd: And I think closing Locust Grove is just like closing Main Street without Meridian Road, is you are taking out a major arterial and a major north-south that our emergency personnel, again, would be very disadvantaged with that closed. Zaremba: Except that Main would still be open. De Weerd: Yeah. But -- Zaremba: If you go up 3rd and across Pine, then, Main Street's available. De Weerd: The railroad just provides a huge obstacle with -- and limits our north-south opportunities. So, then, you have Main Street open, but from Main to Eagle nothing, which, again, poses another problem and I am not the public safety expert, so I am going to ask for our two public guys to -- Basterrechea: I think one of the huge issues we would have if we closed Locust Grove at anywhere is you're going to create a huge traffic issue with the cars coming off of Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 15 of 39 Eagle Road and now we are having to redirect them north or if they belong in the neighborhood there on Woodbridge we have just blocked them from entering their own house and now we are redirecting all this traffic that we are going to have to stop or at least sign and contact at one of the busiest intersections in the state at Franklin and Eagle Road. Niemeyer: And I think, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I would actually agree with my colleague from the police department. As far as Locust Grove we have actually been using Locust Grove -- Basterrechea: Write that down, please. De Weerd: It's noted. Niemeyer: Yeah. With some of our Station One responses we have been using Locust Grove a lot heavier due to congestion that we would find here at the interchange of Franklin, Meridian and Main. As far as the parade route itself down Main Street, about three years ago we changed our deployment while during the parade. We pre-staged Engine 32 at Meridian Middle School, so they cover the east side -- or the west side. Sorry. We have Engine 31 at Fire Station One, so they cover the west side. We also developed. And we also developed an agreement with Ada County Paramedics. We put at least four ATVs and a Gater with Medics and EMTs on them to cover the parade route. In this situation with Meridian Road essentially shut down and no access to it, we may increase that to six ATVs to the parade route, regardless of where it goes. So, we have staff on the parade route in case something does happen. It's proven very beneficial. Really, our struggle is on the west side of Meridian Road. We have deployed -- pre-deployed some hose lines already as part of our construction planning, so if we do have to deploy hoses we have got some there already hooked to hydrants. So, I think we can make anything work, whatever you guys come up with, but Locust Grove I have a little bit of fear using that as a parade route, because that is a main northwest thoroughfare for Station One. Basterrechea: And we will discuss -- we could stage some officers as well south of the freeway. But, again, it goes back to Meridian Road as our concern with people coming from the west and you all -- we all know not everybody is going to go down Pine or park on Pine to cross and I am very concerned about pedestrian -- pedestrian traffic then trying to cross through that construction there and any injuries that could occur at that point. De Weerd: Well, I would ask in a moment for ACHD to make comment, but I do -- I did hear a report that in 30 days they should know a little better as to where we might be at the time of the parade and construction. We have the cross-over that will be going from Main Street to Meridian Road and what construction phase that will be in. So, I will ask ACRD to make comment on that. Mr. Bird. Bird: Trace, how many -- how many motorcycle officers and bicycle police officers do Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 16 of 39 we have down here during the parade? Basterrechea: I will have to defer to Sergeant Gonzales. He kind of runs that traffic -- Bird: I know you got enough to get after me when I throw candy. De Weerd: Yeah. There is no throwing candy, Mr. Bird. Bird: You're just as guilty. De Weerd: Sergeant. Gonzales: Good evening, Mayor and Council. We typically have between six to eight motor officers that we invite from other agencies to come assist us with the parade. Along with that we use our bicycle team. In the past we have used two -- I think last year we were able to use four and we were hoping this year to be able to use six. But we do use about -- altogether probably close to 30 officers to man traffic and to be able to manage -- this is just traffic control, because the reality is we are leaving the crowd control to our motor officers and our bike officers to be able to handle that and this is the discussion we are having now, because we need to start putting more officers on the parade route, because of some of the safety concerns that we were starting to see. And so this is all coming at a time where these are things that are under discussion currently. Bird: One follow up, please. De Weerd: Uh-huh. Bird: When -- when you say the -- the parade starts at 7:00. Gonzales: Uh-huh. Bird: When do you shut -- actually shut down Franklin Road and Main Street coming down and is -- there is always a way to turn west on Main -- turn west all the time? And would you say that 75 to 80 percent of the spectators are already in place by 7:00 o'clock while those streets are open and everything? Gonzales: Yes. We start shutting down the main area leading into downtown about an hour before the parade starts. We start shutting down Franklin, as an example about a half hour before the parade and, then, at 15 minutes until everything is completely locked down where no cars are allowed in. The way people can come in if they are late to the parade is they have to come through say 3rd or the back way and, then, kind of park at a distance and, then, walk towards the parade route. Bird: Follow up, Madam Mayor. But we never shut down Franklin to the west of Main; right? You can always go to Linder to go north and south. Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 17 of 39 Gonzales: Yes. Yes. Bird: Am I not right? Gonzales: Yes. Correct. Bird: Okay. And we shut down Main Street an hour before the parade? Gonzales: Yes, sir. Bird: Is there any way we could back that off to a half hour before the parade and be safe? You're the expert. I'm not. Gonzales: Our concern is, really, is that's when people start staking out their spots for the parade and we are starting to see more foot traffic and so at that time is when we start increasing the amount of officers in the area, our volunteers that man the parade route are starting to take their areas to start help do a traffic control, make sure it's safe down in the parade route. Bird: And I -- I believe in the past. Most of our west -- coming from the west, the parking has been more from Meridian Road west down on the streets there and, then, they walk after the first 15 minutes parking is taken up and I do have a concern with -- I don't remember whether it was Councilman Rountree or Zaremba that -- getting pedestrians across the construction area part of the road. So, I hope things can be worked out. I hope we can stay the same route, as long as we can be safe. As long as our emergency personnel can respond and -- because I firmly believe that if we lose our parade it won't come back. Gonzales: Well, we all know that the parade is a staple for Meridian, like the Mayor talked about earlier. One of the things as we saw the construction and knowing that it would affect the parade, I met with -- like spoke on the phone with the project manager and talked about this issue. The project manager for the construction on the -- on Meridian Road and Jeff tells me that due to weather and not knowing, since we really are in the winter phase, he could have some bad weather days and it could set him behind, so he really wanted to wait a month before he could tell us exactly where that construction would be at the time of the parade and what he would be able to provide for us as far as -- as far as how we would be able to use Main Street. So, to a certain degree until we hear more firmly of how the road is going to be, it's difficult for us to really give an endorsement of what we should do, aside from start to look for alternative routes. When we start looking at the construction, how we know it will be in general terms, we still have the same issues that we see currently on Meridian Road, on the north side of -- at Main Street and Fairview, the road is going to be what effectively call the north curb that's going to be torn up and we potentially could have a temporary road there to assist the parade to go through there. The challenge is also going to be -- but we don't know that, because of weather and other issues. The other challenge is going Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 18 of 39 to be on the south end on King and Ada where the cross-over occurs. That's going to be in heavy construction at the time and spectators cannot be in that area. So, that whole west side of the road is completely closed off to spectators. My challenge is going to be how we are going to keep people out of there and how we are going to address those issues and what type of manpower it would take to be able to keep people safe in those areas. De Weerd: Well, you think Main and Fairview or Cherry Lane and Meridian are ugly now, just wait. I'm just giving them Director Wong's phone number. Gonzales: If I may add something else as I have been hearing the discussion. We know that Locust Grove is not the best option and there is probably this whole discussion. All of you have touched on different things that we have talked about and Locust Grove is not the best option out there. But when we look at alternatives, we -- I guess we have to pick our poison and if we are going to do this what we need to do to make it happen. So, that's been my perspective. De Weerd: Pick your poison. Basterrechea: Sorry, Madam Mayor. One of the other things that we will need to discuss with the dairy board is depending on the option that we look at, we may require them to hire a private traffic company as well to assist us with those traffic control issues and things like that. There are companies that specialize in that, that work traffic control, directing traffic and things like that, and we may have to multiply our manpower by utilizing them. De Weerd: Okay. Could we perhaps get some comments from Ada County Highway District. Did you draw the short straw, Adam? Zaragoza: It seems to be a lot recently. But for the record, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Adam Zaragoza, ACHD project manager. I'd just like to echo what Sergeant Gonzales said about how the construction is going. I do work weekly with Jeff and what he said. But in regards to the Main and Fairview being, under construction, there is a very high probability that come June that will be under construction and, again, with across-over area come June. As the plan is right now, pending weather and other issues we are having, that is also in the works to be under construction at the same time. So, as far as your question earlier, I hope that answers as far as sequencing. Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: Adam, what -- what would be the cost to make some safe pedestrian cross-overs over the construction, if any, at that point in June over Meridian Road from the west? Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 19 of 39 Zaragoza: Madam Mayor, Councilman Bird, Idon't -- I can't give you a good answer on that at this point. We haven't even considered putting in a paving area to get to that. Bird: I don't mean -- maybe a little wooden bridge or something that they could walk over or something. Is that possible? Zaragoza: Anything's possible, I just can't give you a number. Bird: I understand. Call Central Paving. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Hoaglun: Adam, by chance do you know what the traffic count is on -- on Main Street right now with the construction going on or maybe you have numbers from pre- construction. I was just kind of curious. We talk about diverting traffic, losing traffic, and I'm really not sure how many cars we are talking about, besides a lot, so -- Zaragoza: Sure. Our pre-construction numbers we have for Main Street was about 17 to 20 thousand in there and just to give you a perspective, on Fairview it's 30,000 and we figured about 60 percent or two-thirds of those have been displaced. So, we are in the ballpark of 10,000 now using Fairview, so you take those other 20,000, put them on a parallel route to Franklin and Pine. That's a lot of traffic to be coming east-west through there on those -- on particularly Pine on a two lane roadway. De Weerd: I know. I waited ten red lights to get to Main Street. Hoaglun: And follow up on -- Adam, by chance any numbers on Locust Grove? Zaragoza: You know, I don't have those on me, but I could certainly follow up with the Council on what the exact numbers are for Maple Grove -- or excuse me -- Hoaglun: Locust Grove. Zaragoza: Yeah. Rountree: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: Adam, it was mentioned that -- and you mentioned again that Main and Fairview could very well be still under heavy construction activity. That's one end. On the other end could very well be the King and Ada area where there is going to be a split under heavy construction and maybe even heavier construction. I got to tell you, if I was planning a parade I don't know that I would want to plan a parade knowing that I Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 20 of 39 could be driving floats into rather major holes on either end of my parade route and we have no -- we have no way of controlling that and you have no way of controlling that. It's at the contractor's discretion and scheduling. I'm struggling with a solution. I'd like to see it stay there, but we could all raise our hands and say, yeah, put it there and they could plan a parade and the week of the parade you might not be able to get vehicles down the corridor. So, I think the alternative route is something that we all need to put our heads to and see if there isn't a solution that at least if it's a go ahead and it's a go, we got a route to run the parade over with some degree of knowing that the route is going to be open. Because we all know what happens with construction projects. Zaragoza: Yes, we do. Rountree: Whatever you did not think of. De Weerd: Any other questions for Adam? Zaremba: I guess I would ask if -- Madam Mayor. If you have any concerns about the alternates that have been proposed from ACHD's standpoint. Zaragoza: Madam Mayor, Councilman Zaremba, as far as the alternate goes, you know, we will suppork whatever the Council and the Dairy Days Board decision is on the alternate routes. Certainly I have shared the safety concerns with Main and Fairvew being under construction, as well as the cross-over being under construction in June, but, really, we will support any alternate route that -- for the decision to be made. Zaremba: Thank you. De Weerd: Oh, it's Atkins. Okay. So, I was wrong. It's Atkins Way, not Baltic. So, if you went down Franklin, you have more than three-quarters of a mile, you go down Atkins Way towards the police department and, then, go back west on Water Tower, you know -- and from a police standpoint -- because we -- we have a lot of personnel out on 3rd Street and Main Street, both on the south and west, you have less conflicts with traffic on that, it just -- I'm not a traffic engineer or an expert in any fashion, but that just seems to be a good alternative and I'm not a big fan -- I'm not a supporter of closing Locust Grove at all, so -- thank you, Adam. If we can work with you and the dairy board, as long as the dairy board will consider an alternate, we would love to continue this conversation. I agree if we cancel -- it's ultimately up to the Dairy Show board, but if -- it is hard to get a parade reestablished after canceling it for a year. So, we appreciate you coming and letting us know the status. Zaragoza: Thank you. Bird: Thank you, Adam. Zaremba: Madam Mayor? Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 21 of 39 De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: I guess my question for the dairy board would be when do we need to make our final recommendation or our final input both to them and to ACHD? Do we need to give it tonight? I know there is a long lead time in putting a parade together you have to get everything organized. But it sounds like we might know more information a month from now. Can you wait a month to -- Bruijn: I think we can. I have got this -- thank goodness for e-mail and computers, but I have got this parade pretty well under control and it wouldn't take me very long to set it up. So, we could wait 30 days. The only problem I just kind of -- you know, it's all part of Dairy Days, our promotions and everything. Zaremba: So, I guess my question is could we maybe give another three weeks, let's say, to have you consider other alternates or come up with more on your own and for us to learn more about what the state of construction would be and have this discussion proceed again three weeks from now, as opposed to dropping the gavel today? De Weerd: Will ACRD know something in three weeks? We really waited until you sat down, Adam. Zaragoza: For the record again Adam Zaragoza, ACHD project manager. You know, every day goes by we are closer to the finish, so will we know more in three weeks? Absolutely. Will it change? I can't tell you either way at this point. But, again, as the schedule lays out this area will be under construction as of this day in June, so -- Bird: Adam -- Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: Adam, how are we -- how is the schedule compared to the flow chart right now? Are they ahead? Behind? Zaragoza: As of today we are -- I can give you the standard answer that I give everybody. We are right where we want to be. But, to be honest with you, we are right on schedule. Bird: That's what I heard. Zaragoza: Yeah. That October 3rd date that was originally there, we did lose a couple weeks through the zero temperatures that we had in January, but we have been able to make that week and a half up, so we are back to the October 3rd finish day. Bird: I heard we were down and up. Okay. Thank you. Bruijn: And, like I said, I don't want to rush this either. If we can -- you know, I'd just Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 22 of 39 hate to cancel this parade, because it's going to be really hard to get it established again and I know that even changing the route is going to be a major headache, because you're still going to have 30 to 40 percent of the attendants sitting on Main Street waiting for the parade. We have had that experience before when we moved it from going from Stratford, Franklin, and, then, onto Main Street, we still had a lot of people sitting by Zamzow's and in front of Les Schwab and no matter how much publicity you do you're still going to have several thousand people that are going to be sitting on Main Street waiting for the parade. But, yes, I can wait three weeks if need be. If that answers your question. Zaremba: It does. I'm just questioning everybody. Is it worth waiting three weeks to think more about it? Hoaglun: Well, Madam Mayor, I do want to see the parade continue. There are some serious issues about Main Street, a lot of them are because of Meridian Road construction, the curbs. I mean there is a lot of issues. First responders and the amount of traffic -- you know, an inconvenience in traffic, that's fine, their fun, it's something we do, people don't mind it, but an inconvenience versus a shutdown of all of downtown because there is no longer Meridian Road is -- is a different story, but for one year I think people understand if we have to move it. I think they'd still like to see it and I'd like to see it. So, I wouldn't mind having another look at alternatives and some suggestions and maybe we can -- maybe we can do something here, but let's keep at it. Bruijn: Any question other questions? De Weerd: Any other questions from Council? Bird: I don't at this time. ettlers Park Horseshoe Courts Naming iscussion De Weerd: We appreciate you coming tonight. Is there any other comment? Thank you, Hans. Thank you, Marty. Sorry there is no easy answers on this one. Okay. Item 6-E Settlers Park. Mike. Barton: Good evening, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. At our last parks and recreation committee meeting -- commission meeting we heard a proposal from the Treasure Valley Horseshoe Club to name the horseshoe courts at Settlers Park the Don Titcomb Memorial Horseshoe Court and the commission voted in favor of this proposal and the department supports the proposal. We have Jerry Smith with the horseshoe pitching club here this evening to go over -- go into a little bit of detail about why they feel this is important to their -- to the courts and to memorialize Don Titcomb. So, with that I'm going to invite Jerry Smith up and he can go over the details. De Weerd: Thank you. I think we have all met Don and known -- know of the role that he played in designing an outstanding facility that we have in Settlers Park. So, thank Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 23 of 39 you, Jerry, for joining us. Smith: Thank you very much, Madam Mayor and Council Members. I appreciate the time. I guess for the political world it's probably not the most important issue we have, but it is to us. You should have in -- before you my proposal and I have some other handouts. So, if you have had a chance to look at them, it's just a little history of Don. I think probably two questions that might come to your mind -- it would be why Don Titcomb and why Meridian and I might be able to shed a little light on that. One of the handouts is the cover of the national magazine, which is the NAPA. They run the -- well, horse pitching, not only north America, it's the world, and they chose to put remembering a legend on there as an indication. I had the pleasure of writing Don's biography and it was entitled the Legendary Don Titcomb. These are just some examples of -- of why it's Don Titcomb. The other -- the first handout -- the bigger handout was an article in the Idaho Statesman written after he died on December 2nd and they interviewed the family and me and went through the books and so forth. It, again, expresses it very well, Don's commitment to horseshoes and since he moved here in late '04 Don's commitment to the horseshoe pitching in this area, particularly at Settlers Park. Don got here and he was past 80 then. He still lived and breathed horseshoes every day of his life and when he got here he got permission to expand some -- portable course at Storey Park and started teaching kids and when we started our league he was instrumental in getting us organized here in the Treasure Valley and started camping out here in the city offices looking for new horseshoe courts and so forth, only to find Settlers Park was planned and I think Don -- with Don's pushing, the -- the courts were brought up to sanctionable national standards and I think the number were increased to 16. It takes 16 to do a tournament and state tournaments, which is now -- Settlers Park is home to the state tournament every three years. It was in '09 and '12 and everybody involved loved the place. So, I think that's kind of where we are at with Don and Meridian, for that matter. I mean he -- like I said, he just -- he promoted horseshoe pitching at Settlers Park. If you have walked by there and even looked at the course and he was talking to you and handing you shoes and want lessons, whatever, and I would say that he pushed the usage of Settlers Park ten fold, which I think with your great attitude about Settlers Park being an all-star kind of sports complex, the horseshoe courts over there are world class. I mean that. They are not as big as some places, but there aren't any nicer ones anywhere and the people who pitch there appreciate that and we are going to miss Don and (think I am -- it's just something that his family and the clubs feel real important and I think he's earned it and I would be glad to answer questions or -- also I'd mention that we are a small club, we don't have a lot of money, but we are willing to raise some money, do whatever we can. We originally talked maybe about a sign on the fence and Mike suggested and I think he's right, we could go a little farther and maybe get something more permanent. Don was a real deal nationally. So, is there anything I could answer? I'd be glad to. De Weerd: Thank you, Jerry. Smith: Okay. Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 24 of 39 De Weerd: Council, any questions? Bird: Madam Mayor? Hoaglun: Madam Mayor, this is for Jerry, but Mike might be the one that has to answer this. You know, I was thinking a sign is certainly appropriate. Someone who wins three world titles -- well, I guess that's okay. You know, he didn't win four, just three, but -- no. That's amazing to do that and to have someone of his caliber associated with our horseshoe pits I think will be impressive to everyone coming to -- to Meridian who knows anything about horseshoes. But I was wondering, besides a sign, is there going to be any informational plaque for people who start pitching shoes to understand who this person was. Mike, was there anything -- any discussions of that, of having something somewhere to kind of give a little more information or just a sign on -- on the court? Barton: Madam Mayor, Councilman Hoaglun, that -- that didn't really come up. I mean it was -- it was first discussed as an aluminum sign hanging on the chain link fence and said, hey, you know, maybe a rock monument or a bronze plaque or something like that and there could be a plaque that had a short narrative or something to that effect put in it. We have offered our support. We offered 300 dollars of our -- of our budget as a contribution, so whatever permanent plaque or rock -- and we think it should be substantial and timeless if we are going to do this, then, it would be up to the horseshoe club to come up with the remainder of the funds. Hoaglun: Okay. That's good. Thank you, Mike. Barton: Keeping in mind the great audit we heard tonight. Hoaglun: Yeah. Barton: But we will do what we can. Appreciate it. De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: I think if we are going to honor the gentleman we need a nice plaque with his accomplishments and I would ask that Mike get a cost on what a nice bronze plaque that we can either put on its own stand -- I hate to see something hanging against the fence. And get back to the liaison with the -- the amount of money and maybe we can get together and raise some money for it. Personally, not the city. Personally. De Weerd: Any other questions for Jerry while we have him up there? Zaremba: Just a comment. I did have the opportunity to meet him once and that was exciting and I know how much energy -- Smith: He was excited about horseshoes, wasn't he. Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 25 of 39 Zaremba: Yeah. I know how much he helped us with this, as well as you yourself, but I think this is a wonderful idea and a fitting thing and I agree, I think a substantial monument with a bronze plaque would be a good idea of we can work that out, so -- I'm in favor of the idea if that's what we are asking. Rountree: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: Just aquestion -- are we asked to take action on this or just give it a head nod that we are in agreement? De Weerd: I think it would be appropriate to take action on the naming of this facility and ask staff to come back with some information on an appropriate -- on appropriate signage. Bird: Yeah. De Weerd: And I would agree with Councilman Hoaglun and if we are going to name it, we need to explain a little bit more about the name that's behind it and certainly it's -- it's certainly worth noting his lifetime accomplishments in horseshoeing. So, with that said I would entertain a motion from Council. Zaremba: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: I move that we name the horseshoe pitching courts at Settlers Park to be the Don Titcomb Memorial Horseshoe Courts. Bird: Second. De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Rountree: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: Would the maker of the motion also include to have staff work with the horseshoe pitching club and come up with a proposal and a cost for a plaque that does the naming? Zaremba: Yes, I would be happy to make that part of the motion. Bird: Second agrees. Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 26 of 39 De Weerd: Okay. Any further discussion? Madam Clerk, will you call roll. Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. De Weerd: All ayes. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Smith: Thank you very much. C. Settlers Park Horseshoe Courts ming Discussion De Weerd: Thank you, Jerry. Okay. There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda. Item Action Items Continued from February 1, 2013: A 1 -009 Southridge by The Land Group Located outh of . ®verland Road Between . Ten ile Road and S. Linder Road oquost: ulic Hearing: odification to the evelopment Agreement Approved De Weerd: So, we will move to Item 8 under Action Items and start with 8-A, which is continued from February 19th on MDA 12-009. I will turn this over to staff. Watters: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. The application before you tonight is a development agreement modification for the Southridge Subdivision. This item was before the Council on February 19th. At that time the Council directed staff to work with the applicant on incorporating provisions from the existing development agreement that have already been completed into the proposed amended agreement. Staff met with the applicant's representative Jason Densmer and agreed upon certain items being added back into the amended development agreement for documentation purposes. Other items that staff did not deem necessary to be included are listed in the memo to City Council from staff dated February 27th. A copy of the amended agreement is included with the memo showing the provisions that were added in underlined format. The applicant is proposing modified language to provision number 6.3.8 in regard to the height restrictions for the homes along the southern border shared by Val Vista and Aspen Cove Subdivisions that leaves in the original language, but allows the option to exceed 22 feet in height as long as the height of the homes is lower than the top of the fence at the midpoint of the rear of the lot. No written testimony has been received since the last hearing on the 19th and staff is recommending approval of the proposed changes to the amended agreement as contained in the memo to Council, dated February 27th. Staff will stand for any questions. De Weerd: Council, any questions for staff at this point? Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 27 of 39 Bird: I have none, Mayor. Rountree: None right now. De Weerd: This is a public hearing. I do have a couple of people that have returned and we appreciate you being here tonight. Susan Przybos signed up against and I will just state your -- your comment. If you'd like to provide additional comment I would ask you to come forward. You can't talk from back there. I'm sorry. We can't get you on public record from the back of the room. If you will just state your name and address. Przybos: Susan Przybos. 2530 South Del Rey Lane. De Weerd: Thank you. Przzbos: When staff just read that she didn't say that it's from the most restrictive part of the land, which is what it said in the piece that we got. Not the center of the backyard or whatever, it is the most restrictive measurement of the land, which is how it reads in ours. Because when we clarify that that isn't what was there. De Weerd: Okay. Thank you. Rountree: Madam Mayor, I have a question. De Weerd: Ma'am? Susan? We have a question for you. Mr. Rountree. Rountree: With the clarification are you in agreement with that? Przybos: We want the 22 foot that we originally came and fought until midnight for and, then, they did say that we would allow them to be taller than that, depending on the grade of the land, so long as the roof top is not over the top of the fence. Rountree: Okay. Thank you. Przybos: So, if they dig a really deep hole, they can have taller houses. Rountree: Haven't they already done that? De Weerd: You don't have to answer that. Przybos: But they have filled it back up, so -- thank you. De Weerd: Steven Przybos signed up against. S.Przybos: Steve Przybos. 2530 South Del Rey Lane. I'm in agreement with this -- this proposal as long as they stick with it. I have only one question to ask Jason at this Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 28 of 39 time. De Weerd: You can ask him and -- Rountree: We will get the answer. De Weerd: -- we will get the answer when he comes up here. S.Przybos: Okay. I would like to know the fence -- it drops as the elevation goes down, so it drops several -- at one point it drops several feet down and are they going to go by each elevation of the fence or are they going to take this fence here and go across the high part of the fence. That's what I'd like to know. De Weerd: Thank you. Hoaglun: Steven, I have a question for you real quick. So, you're in agreement with your wife; is that right? You and your wife agree? Just want to make sure. De Weerd: That's a dangerous question. I don't know -- you don't have to answer that. Zaremba: Are you specifying the subject or is that a broad statement? S.Przybos: I'm in agreement with their proposal. Hoaglun: Okay. Okay. S.Przybos: Except for this one question that I have. Hoaglun: Okay. Got it. Thank you. Talking about digging holes tonight. De Weerd: Scott Nichols. Nichols: My name is Scott Nichols. I reside at 2730 West Val Vista Court. I'm in favor of the proposal as proposed. I'd like to add that Jason -- and we talked about this and whatever I said last time about Jason I'd like to redact it. He's been very good to follow up with us. It was good -- poor communication on our part and we should have got together before and resolved that, otherwise we wouldn't be back here today. Anyway, Jason, for the record, thank you for working on that. We did have a resolution before we left the office last week and regardless of the questions about it, it looks good. Thank you. De Weerd: Thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to provide testimony? Jason. Densmer: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I'm Jason Densmer, with The Land Group, 462 East Shore Drive. Thank you for letting us come back here two weeks after Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 29 of 39 we met last. I think that the small changes that we needed to make for the development agreement were the right idea and we appreciate you having told us to go back and take a look at those, because their agreement's better for having made the changes. Also it gave us an opportunity to meet with our neighbors and to regain their support, which we have appreciated all the way through this process and look forward to carrying forward into the future. Do you have any questions? Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? Densmer: Before I go there maybe I ought to answer Steve's question. De Weerd: There was the fence question. Densmer: Yeah. So, specifically on the fence -- the language that we talked about after the Council meeting with our neighbors two weeks ago and that was written into the development agreement, said that we are going to -- on a lot-by-lot basis for each of the new lots that's being developed the height of the home is either 22 feet or that can be increased, as long as it's not taller than the top of the fence at the midpoint in the rear of that specific lot. So, we aren't going to go -- we are not going to go cherry pick the highest point of the fence on the entire project and, then, use that to establish the height of all the houses, it's done on a specific lot by lot basis. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor. I want to make sure I heard you right, Jason. So, it's the midpoint of that lot that you determined what the height will be? Is that -- did I get that right? Densmer: Yes, sir. Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you. De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: I just want to make sure that I'm understanding the goal and that the wording gets us to the goal. The point is that the height -- the top height of the roof is not going to be any higher than it was before. What we are allowing is that the bottom of the building may be deeper than it was before, therefore, making the building taller, but from a lower point on the ground and -- but the end result is that the neighbors are not going to be looking at any higher roofs than they would have under the old way it was written. Is that what we are getting? Densmer: That's correct. Zaremba: Okay. Densmer: It's actually more restrictive than that description, in that the original language in the development agreement was 22 feet tall for all the lots, no matter Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 30 of 39 where. In this case the lots that have been lowered through the gravel operation may be taller, but the roofs of the houses will probably actually be lower even than they would have been at 22 feet. Zaremba: Yeah. Cool. Thank you. De Weerd: Any further questions or comments? Densmer: Thank you. Zaremba: Madam Mayor, just one more. I know it's been said, but the provisions that were being taken out because they have already been satisfied, those are staying in and we just acknowledge they have been satisfied. Densmer: That's correct. Zaremba: Good. Thank you. Densmer: Thank you. De Weerd: Any other comments from staff? Or questions from Council? Bird: I have none, Mayor. De Weerd: Okay. Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: I move we close the public hearing on MDA 12-009. Rountree: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to close the public hearing on Item 8-A. All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: I move we approve MDA 12-009 and include all applicant, staff, and public comments. Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 31 of 39 Rountree: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 8-A. Any discussion by Council? Rountree: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: I think it's really terrific that in spite of the contention last time we met on this that the neighbors and the developer have gotten together and worked out their differences and it's amazing how that happens to work most of the times we get that to happen, with a few exceptions. But thank you all that are left for doing that. Zaremba: Madam Mayor, I would also appreciate the extra effort that staff has put into readjusting how it was written. Thank you. De Weerd: Okay. Madam Clerk. Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. De Weerd: Item 8-B was requested to continue to March 19th. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Hoaglun: De Weerd: I move that we continue FP 13-007 until March 19th, 2013. Bird: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to continue Item 8-B to March 19th. All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 32 of 39 C. FP 13-008 Karmelle Subdivision by Providence anagement, LLC Located South Side of E. Victory Road, East of S. agle Road Request: Final Plat Consisting of 43 Single-Family Residential Building Lots and Nine (9) Common Lots on Approximately 16.18 Acres of Land in an R-4 Zoning District De Weerd: Item 8-C is FP 13-008. I will ask for staff comments. Watters: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. The next application before you is a final plat request for Karmelle Subdivision. This site consists of 16.18 acres of land. It's zoned R-4 and it's located on the south side of East Victory Road, east of South Eagle Road. The proposed final plat consists of 43 single family residential building lots and nine common and other lots on 16.1 acres of land. The gross density is 2.66 dwelling units per acre. All of the proposed lots comply with the dimensional standards of the R-4 district. Open space consists of street buffers, various parkways, and open grassy areas. A children's play structure and sitting area are proposed as amenities. Staff has reviewed the proposed final plat for consistency with the approved preliminary plat and found it to be in substantial conformance as the number of building lots and open space area is the same. Written testimony was received from Scott Wonders, the applicant's representative, in agreement with the staff report. Staff will stand for any questions at this time. Staff is recommending approval of the final plat. De Weerd: Council, any questions for staff? Bird: I have none, Mayor. Rountree: I have none. De Weerd: Does the applicant have any comments? You don't have to comment. The applicant was in agreement with the staff report as noted and -- Rountree: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: Mr. -- De Weerd: What's your name. Rountree: Armstrong. De Weerd: I have never called you that. That was another mayor. Rountree: That was another mayor. Madam Mayor, I move that we approve Item 8-C, Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 33 of 39 final plat 13-008. Bird: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 8-C. Any discussion? Madam Clerk. Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. De Weerd: Item 8-D is final plat 13-003. I'll ask for staff comments. Watters: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. The next application before you is a final plat request for Canterbury Commons Subdivision. This site consists of 8.46 acres of land and it's zoned R-15 and is located on the south side of West Pine Avenue, east of North Ten Mile Road. The proposed final plat consists of 38 single family residential detached building lots and four common other lots on 8.46 acres of land. This is the first of three phases of Canterbury Commons. The gross density proposed with this phase is 4.49 dwelling units per acre. All of the proposed lots comply with the dimensional standards of the R-15 district. The proposed open space consists of street buffers and open grassy areas. A section of the city's multi-use pathway is proposed along the north side of the Ten Mile sub drain along the southwest boundary of the site. As you can see right here that darker line there. Sidewalk and streetlights along Pine Avenue are shown on the construction drawings and will be constructed with phase one of the development. Staff has reviewed the proposed final plat for consistency with the approved preliminary plat and found it to be in substantial conformance as the number of building lots and open space area is the same. Written testimony was received from Scott Noriyuki, the applicant's representative, in agreement with the staff report. Staff is recommending approval of the final plat with the conditions in the staff report. Staff will stand for any questions. De Weerd: Any questions for staff? Bird: I have none, Mayor. De Weerd: Okay. Any comment from the applicant? Okay. Council? Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 34 of 39 Bird: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Bird. Bird: I move we approve FP 13-003. Zaremba: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 8-D. If there is no discussion, roll call vote. Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 9: Department Reports ,A. Joint Department Report: Settlers Park Parking Access to Ustick Road Discussion otion Approved to Grant Waiver De Weerd: Item 9-A is a Joint Department Report. I will turn this over to Mike. Nary: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Oh. I won't turn it to Mike. I will turn it to Mr. Nary. Nary: Madam Mayor, I was just going to I guess just lead into Mike and what -- the reason this is in front of you -- in our city code it indicates that unless waived by the Council there is some limited access to arterials. So, this is related to the parks project and you do have authority to waive that. There is no other specifics in the city code. A finding you need to make -- it has some recommendations in the UDC as to when access to the arterial shouldn't be granted, but it doesn't prohibit you granting it. So, it -- the project Mike will explain, but I just wanted to explain why it's in front of you and what you -- which action you need to have when you're done. De Weerd: Thank you. Barton: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, as you remember approximately five weeks ago we brought to you an update on our Settlers Park Village Square phase two project and in that presentation we went over the various amenities and part of that proposal is to add an additional 36 parking places that parallel Ustick Road. In that -- in that proposal we thought it most efficient if we brought that parking through and onto Ustick Road as in this drawing and went forward with the CZC application and during Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 35 of 39 the application process we found out that an additional access to Ustick Road violates UDC 1.1.3A.3. When we found out that that went against our Uniform Development Code we started to explore different alternatives. The first place we went is we went to fire to see exactly what we could do and if a dead end or a hammerhead or a turnaround of some sort would work in there. So, some of these -- some of the proposals that we came up with and because of the turning radiuses that are required to get a fire truck down there and turn around, were -- were not going to work we felt, you know, even if we had the space to give up, this turnaround is in the right of way. So, obviously, a no go. De Weerd: Darn fire trucks. Barton: Yeah. They do that. Basterrechea: We don't have that problem with police cars. Barton: So, it is another option we explored, obviously no better off. You know, it's in the right of way. And the third option -- basically you need 150 feet from the parking lot for access and, you know, if the -- the turnarounds or the hammerhead weren't going to work, then, our effective parking areas were going to get cut down to about 11 spaces. So, with that said I think we can -- you know, we all know that parking is in short supply at Settlers Park and we -- it's our desire to add parking. We can eliminate the parking. We can explore another option, whether it be in that east -- far east overflow parking lot. We felt that, you know, to really service this complex that -- to get people as close as possible that that is the best option. You know, we think that traffic volumes, with a couple of exceptions, are going to be fairly light going out onto Ustick. It is right -- proposed as a right-in, right-out. So, with that I will stand for questions. De Weerd: Thank you, Mike. Council, any questions? Hoaglun: Madam Mayor and Mike, that right-in, right-out curbing will be big enough to deter people from sliding down trying to turn left as they head east, I would assume? Barton: Madam Mayor and Council Hoaglun, it's -- it's proposed as your standard pork chop concrete -- Hoaglun: Okay. Bird: There are no guarantees. Barton: Yeah. Hoaglun: No guarantees. Don't want to make it easy. I have seen some where they just ignore it completely. It's easy to get around it without any problem. Barton: And I think what's proposed is a six to seven foot triangle of concrete, so pretty Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 36 of 39 substantial. Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you. Barton: With spikes. De Weerd: No spikes. Any questions -- any further questions? Zaremba: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: I would just comment that I think the driveway is a much better option than any of the turnarounds. You know people are going to park in them. Even with signage on a turnaround people think that doesn't mean them, so -- it only takes one car to park in it and, then, the fire truck can't use it anyhow. Barton: The red curb is covered up and -- Zaremba: Yeah. So, I think the driveway is correct. Are we sure that it's sufficient distance from the next driveway that ACRD is happy with it? Barton: We talked to Mindy at ACHD and her response and a-mail was that if -- if the city is okay with it and waiver is granted, that ACHD will grant approval. Zaremba: Okay. De Weerd: Any other comments? Bird: I have none. Rountree: I think it's a legitimate request. The volumes are minimal. The access there is somewhat restricted. I don't see it becoming a breezeway. Makes the parking a whole lot more useful. Zaremba: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: For procedure purposes do we need a variance request or can we act on it tonight? Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, you can act on it tonight. The code simply states that you have to waive it. So, a voice vote motion is all you need. Zaremba: Okay. Madam Mayor, I move we waive the section of the UDC regarding Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 37 of 39 this driveway and approve the driveway. Rountree: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Bird: I have none. De Weerd: Madam Clerk. Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 10: rdinances rdinance No. 13-1546: ®A 1-003 Sign Code Text Amendment by City of eridian Community Development Planning Division Request: Amend Sections of the City's Current Standards for Signs De Weerd: Item 10-A is Ordinance 13-1546. Madam Clerk, will you, please, read this by title only. Holman: Thank you, Madam Mayor. City of Meridian Ordinance No. 13-1546, an ordinance amending Meridian City Code as codified at Title 11, entitled the Unified Development Code of the Meridian City Code, and providing for a waiver of the reading rules and providing an effective date. De Weerd: You have heard this ordinance read by title only. Is there anyone who would like to hear it read in its entirety? Thank you. Seeing none, Mr. Bird. Bird: I move we approve Ordinance 13-1546 with suspension of rules. Rountree: Second. De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 10-A. Madam Clerk -- Rountree: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Rountree. Rountree: Just a point of discussion. I don't know how many of you had the opportunity to see the national news this evening. ABC and NBC highlighted the Bay Bridge in San Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 38 of 39 Francisco. That's kind of the step-sister of the Golden Gate Bridge, but it goes across the bay. They have spent several millions of dollars putting LED lights on that bridge. It's a cable stay type bridge. All the cables now have strings of LEDs. They are all computerized. They will do whatever they are told. It's a piece of art. The lights were flashing. They were strobing. They were running up and down cables, they were running across cables, they were doing whatever they programed them to do. Much faster than a second and way faster than eight seconds. So, if you get an opportunity to see that, that bridge probably carries more than about five of -- of the busiest streets put together in any one day and any one evening and apparently that's not going to be a safety issue, at least for them to consider it. Just to consider that. If you get an opportunity, if you can pick that up on national news or on the Internet, it was -- it was quite interesting to watch what they were doing on that bridge. De Weerd: Public art. Rountree: Public art. We couldn't do that in Meridian. De Weerd: No. We don't have a budget for it. Bird: I was going to say we don't have enough money in the city. De Weerd: Madam Clerk. Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. De Weerd: All ayes. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 11: Future eating Topics De Weerd: Item 11, Future Meeting Topics. Council, anything for future meeting agendas? Zaremba: Madam Mayor? De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: This is not actually a topic, but since we have put a city item on the election of May 21st -- May 21st is a Council meeting and we don't generally have Council meetings when there is a city election. Should we discuss moving that meeting to the 22nd? Bird: Yeah. Zaremba: Or does it happen automatically? Meridian City Council March 5, 2012 Page 39 of 39 Bird: It happens automatically. De Weerd: Not automatic. Nary: Madam Mayor. It doesn't happen automatically, because it's specifically in your ordinance for the general election. So, you would need to cancel the meeting on the 21st and schedule the next one for the next day or whatever date you want to. Zaremba: Okay. So, I would have that for a topic next week or -- as an action item. De Weerd: Okay. I don't know if it's agenda worthy. I think we can just do it. Zaremba: If we can waive a wand and do it, we need to waive a wand and do it. De Weerd: Okay. Waive your wand. Zaremba: The meeting will be on May 22nd instead of May 21st. De Weerd: I would entertain a motion to adjourn. Hoaglun: So moved. Rountree: Second. Bird: Second. De Weerd: All those in favor say aye. All ayes. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:43 P.M. (AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) ~~ MAYOR T Y DE WEERD DATE APPROVED ATTEST: EEtUJLMAN, CITY CLERK ~~ ;~72n AU~;I,s ~~~ PI ~9 U~ .~ ~ ,~ Ciry cf Cpl F, 1~I1~N~-- ionHo ~r~, ~~'.dl. `` '~J ~>' Fgof the THE ~S`yb