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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-12-19 Special ci I ti the ri i i cil Ile t r r 1: . ., e e ece er 1 1, or e eer . ers resent: ayor e eer , rlie ountree, vi re it Sird, and r o 1. oll call. avid re b ~ rd I rlie ntree eih it ayor mm e eerd e eer : ky. e will call this special eei to order. For t e recor it i e e ece er 9t . It is in the a eroon. Jerk, e will start ith roll call tte ce. B e UVeer: Item o. , ado Lion o the agenda. l ayor? e eerd: r. oaglun. oaglun: I ove a option of the en s rite . ountree: Second. e eerd: I e otio n seco to opt the a end s printed. I those i favor say aye. All ayes. otion carried. IE L A ° i ° i e eerd: Ite 3 i -- we will turn this over-- it's o the --Jere isc. isc: aam ayor, e bers the Council, again, o icially m so incredibly sorry that I was late. Last ti e I will say that. Su you have been incredibly gracious to alto e the opportunity to present t is to you, which I think is Ding to be n excellent tool for this com unity and for the City of eridi i particular. o have clicker for the Power Dint or -- t ere is nothing o the screen. I forgot to e ere on time, so a ill Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page2of14 Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 3 of 14 Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 4 of 14 Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 5 of 14 e eer: Council, questions? Councilman ountree. ountree: Jere y, take y comments as not criticism i a destructive aner, t have some concerns from what I see. One of your slides indicates that we are looin for new solutions to fund highways and most of your dialogue talked about financing highways. In y mind TEZ is not new revenue. It's more e, requiring debt service. Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 6 of 14 i i i i ti t, i t t is r? i -- i i t fit? i i cl re r c . Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 7 of 14 e weer: Councilman -- Rountree: t some point it's going to e characterized as paralleling w t in e ect now takes place with urban redevelopment and there has been plenty of effort on the part of the legislature to push back on that. ow do you -- how do you propose to keep that issue from rising, because -- there vs suc a rallel there I think it's going to e very difficult to get over. Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 8 of 14 isc: ell, a or, r. Councilman, that's -- that is the first time I had heard t t one. There is risk to the state o Idaho in E s well. I'm not probably as well verse t it s you are, butt at's definitely something I ill look into. o tree: The risk -- the risk o the state f Idaho is a some point i ti e all o the federal dollars for highway construction would have to e used for our debt service for bonds, but no state oey is required to provide the debt service. Pisca: gain think we will have to take look that. I -- that's a question that I had not fielded before, so I' glad you raised it, because I need o go and understand the differences there. otree: I uess final point is that even though I take exception o not having t e Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 9 of 14 ountree: That's all the corn ets a questions I have for now. I'd like to read the legislation at so e point i ti e. e eer: Is that available or is i ritten? isc: adam ayor, we continue to draft it. have draft I would e ppy to share. You're going to have more complete draft within the next two weeks, but I definitely tici ate that final raft will e available before the session starts n I would be happy to work with you to -- you know, o provide t get co met. o ree: adam ayor, once again, I don't can m comments to e derogatory and negative, oit them out a I see those are potential hurdles at a minimum that are going to ve to e crossed and that coul come out of the woo work and that I suspect there is few ore. isca: And, d ayor, r. ountree, I didn't take any o ece to them. appreciate, you know, t e challenging questions. They are real questions. They have to be answere . I respect them as such and so I appreciate the spirit in which they were o erect. Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 10 of 14 tr : use II tti i i r i r r tr . eer : e e nee tools. ucil r oalun: dm ayor? e eer: Yes. Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 11 of 14 Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 12 of 14 't it rl II i 1 - c use ere r it it, t i i it it -- this r i it's, lie i , copse ie it's rojecte t e seven o e return invest a ere it's rojecte e tree -- out .7 t one rojecti -- recur i vest ent. I : o, it's still le it i ustri n i you have ix. e rent going t be exclin that necessarily. o, t t was my big ccer ,because that -- nufctri is still I hope art f our future. it : a ayor? e eerd: r. it . oaglun: dam ayor and Jeremy, if I might interject. Councilman Sird, I'm saying this tongue i cheek, but are you saying there should be personal property tax that could also -- oh, never mind. ird: I think we would have to et it to o so we get ore business. I've stated that too any years. oaglun: I id't t ink you were advocating that. ird: o. o. o. o, I was just saying that they uy machinery, it's cone-ti e sales tax. It's not year -- every year deal, because they are not oin to -- the achinery is going to last 20, 25 years. ut it does ve lot of spin o and stuff. Pisc: ayor e eerd, Councilman Sird, absolutely, but, again, lot of that construction -- lot of what's being factored i is t e residential construction that results because you have built that highway n all of those ouses are constructed with materials that sales tax has ee paid. o, e tend to think o sales tax s retail sales tax, but there are man other-- I mean there is no end to what's ein taxe out there. it :There is use tax. isca: eh. And use taxes s well. ird: And ost of your construction materials is use tax. isca: Exactly. Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 13 of 14 it : t I it t t. e eer : other estion fro cil? ountree: Yeah. I have one ore. e eerd: r. o tree. Rountree: I forgot my question about II I have een roun Ion time. The state primarily didn't use i, because o the large scale of borrowin that it requires and I thin the minimum was li a re illion dollars s I recall. s t been re ce? I have not read in the recent law, so -- hear it was reduced to lie 50 illion or something like that. Pisca: ayor de eer ,Councilman ountree, we may e avin two di Brent iscssios there. Originally the legislation we proposed last year just to get it out there and get the discussion of .The -- at minimum expenditure o roadway projecws a unre million. That has een reduced i the drafts that we are working on now to 50 million. Rountree: Okay. Pisca: The TIFIA legislation re wires that it be expe e on projects o t least 5 million. Rountree: Okay. Pisca: So, that's been -- ountree: Taken care o. Okay. I guess o bra °s point, have seen econo is analysis done on roa projects where just the improve ens alone and the savings o automobile repairs and windshields have more than resulted i two to one svi s. o, it doesn't take n ul lot, really, t enerte that um er and I° surprised it's s low, but it's great. ir: I isa ree. like the broken isiel u ber. ountree: Yeah. e eerd: Anything further fro Council? Jere y, we a reciate your time and certainly when you have a raft that you can s are we owl love o see it n I'rn sure you would have a couple o willing parties here that owl give you constructive fee ac . Pisca: n if there is --and thank you for that, ayor n ocil. f there i nythin I Meridian City Council Special Meeting December 19, 2012 Page 14 of 14 -® i t like t ri r i t . in, I I i f r r ti . isc: Than you. e eerd: y. e are t t e end of o r a e I would e to i oti to adjourn. ontree: So move . oalun: Second. e eerd: II t ose in favor say aye. II ayes. I C I: ALL YES. e eerd: Thank you. 12:32 . ( DI I I F ESE GEE I ) y a~"~ Y E w ATE APP 0 -: ., ATTEST: ;~~~°~ rls~~ `~ ~~ o~, ~,~,.,. ,,, a~~ JAYCEE HQLMAN, CITY ~ ` ~~~~ ,, ~, `~~~~Jte iStC~,,~~.;A,,