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CITY COUNCIL REGULAR
MEETING AGENDA
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 at 7:00 PM 7:03 PM
1. Roll-Call Attendance
X David Zaremba O Brad Hoaglun
X Charlie Rountree X_ Keith Bird
X Mayor Tammy de Weerd
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Community Invocation by David Brown with the LDS Church
4. Adoption of the Agenda Adopted with Addition of Item 12
5. Consent Agenda Approved
A. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Approval: AZ 12-001
Ustick LDS Stake Center by Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-
day Saints Located at 3775 E. Ustick Road Request:
Annexation of 7.67 Acres. of Land from RUT (Ada County) to
the R-8 (Medium Density Residential) Zoning District
B. Final Order for Approval: FP 12-009 Spurwing Greens No. 2 by
Lion Land LLC Located a Quarter Mile North of Chinden
Boulevard; East of N. Jayker Way Request: Final Plat
Consisting of 24 Residential Building Lots and Two Common
Lots on 16.87 Acres in an R-2 Zoning District
C. Interlocal Agreement Between the City of Boise and the
County of Ada and the City of Meridian for Development of
Interface Between The New World System and Incident
Tracking for an amount not to exceed $28,800.00
D. Award of Bid and Approval of Agreement for "Pressure Zone 1
PRV Construction" to Cascade Pipeline for aNot-To-Exceed
amount of $234,150.00
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E. Approve Minutes of June 5, 2012 City Council PreCouncil
Meeting
6.
7.
8.
F. Approve Minutes of June 5, 2012 City Council Regular Meeting
Items Moved From Consent Agenda None
Community Items/Presentations
A. Public Works Donation to Meridian Food Bank (Pg. 3-5)
Action Items
A. Public Hearing on the Draft Community Development Block
Grant (CDBG) Five-Year Consolidated Plan (2012-2016) and
Open 30-day Public Comment Period Public Hearing and
Comment Period opened and continued to the City Council
meeting on July 24, 2012 (Pg. 5-12)
B. Public Hearing on the Draft Community Development Block
Grant (CDBG) Annual Action Plan for Program Year 2012 and
Opening of 30-day Public Comment Period Public Hearing and
Comment Period opened and continued to the City Council
meeting on July 24, 2012 (Pg. 5-12)
9.
Department Reports
A. Public Works: Approval of Agreement with Ada County
Highway District (ACHD) for Construction of the Meridian Split
Corridor Phase 2 Project Concept of agreement approved with
language clarity -final agreement scheduled for City Council
on June 26, 2012 (Pg. 12-17)
10. Ordinances
A. Ordinance No. 12-1516: An Ordinance for Annexation of a
portion of land located at 3775 E. Ustick, in the Northeast 1/4
of the Northwest 1/4 of Section 4, Township 3 North, Range 1
East, Boise Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, . (AZ 12-001 -Ustick
LDS Stake Center) Approved (Pg. 18)
B. First Reading of Ordinance No. 12-1517: Nuisance, Solid
Waste, and Noise Code Updates Second reading and public
testimony scheduled for City Council on June 26, 2012
(Pg. 19-22)
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C. First Reading of Ordinance No. 12-1518: Animal Control Code
Updates Second reading and public testimony scheduled for
City Council on June 26, 2012 (Pg. 22-24)
11. Future Meeting Topics None
Amended onto the Agenda
12. Executive Session Per Idaho State Code 67-2345 (1)(c)(d): {c) To
Conduct Deliberations Concerning Labor Negotiations or to Acquire
an Interest in Real Property, Which is Not Owned by a Public Agency,
and (d) To Consider Records that are Exempt from Disclosure as
Provided in Chapter 3, Title 9, Idaho Code.
Into Executive Session at 8:04 PM
Out of Executive Session at 8:47 PM
Adjourned at 8:47 PM
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Meridian City Council June 19, 2012
A meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:03 p.m., Tuesday, June
19, 2012, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, David Zaremba, Keith Bird, and Charlie
Rountree.
Members Absent: Brad Hoaglun.
Others Present: Bill Nary, Jacy Jones, Caleb Hood, Clint Dolsby, Kyle Radek, Lori den
Hartog, Tom Barry, Chris Amann, Tracy Basterrechea, Steve Siddoway, and Dean
Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X David Zaremba Brad Hoaglun
X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird
X Mayor Tammy de Weerd
De Weerd: Okay. I will go ahead and call this meeting to order. Thank you for joining
us here this evening. For the record it is Tuesday, June 19th. It's a few minutes after
7:00. We will start with roll call attendance.
Item 2: Pledge of Allegiance
De Weerd: Item No. 2 is our Pledge of Allegiance. If you will all rise and join us in the
pledge to our flag.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
Item 3: Community Invocation by David Brown with the LDS Church
De Weerd: Item No. 3 is our community invocation. Is David Brown here? I'm not
seeing him. We will go ahead and skip that.
Item 4: Adoption of the Agenda
De Weerd: And move to Item No. 4, adoption of the agenda.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: On the agenda, Item 10-A is the ordinance that is proposed number 12-1516. B is
proposed 12-1517. And Item C, the proposed number for the ordinance is 12-1518.
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And also it has been requested to have Item 12, which will be an Executive Session per
Idaho State Code 67-2345(1)(c) and (1)(d).
Rountree: Second.
Bird: With that I move we accept the amended agenda.
Rountree: I still second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as amended. All those
in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 5: Consent Agenda
A. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Approval: AZ 12-001
Ustick LDS Stake Center by Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints Located at 3775 E. Ustick Road Request: Annexation of
7.67 Acres of Land from RUT (Ada County) to the R-8 (Medium
Density Residential) Zoning District
B. Final Order for Approval: FP 12-009 Spurwing Greens No. 2 by
Lion Land LLC Located a Quarter Mile North of Chinden
Boulevard; East of N. Jayker Way Request: Final Plat Consisting
of 24 Residential Building Lots and Two Common Lots on 16.87
Acres in an R-2 Zoning District
C. Interlocal Agreement Between the City of Boise and the County of
Ada and the City of Meridian for Development of Interface
Between The New World System and Incident Tracking for an
amount not to exceed $28,800.00
D. Award of Bid and Approval of Agreement for "Pressure Zone 1
PRV Construction" to Cascade Pipeline for aNot-To-Exceed
amount of $234,150.00
E. Approve Minutes of June 5, 2012 City Council PreCouncil Meeting
F. Approve Minutes of June 5, 2012 City Council Regular Meeting
De Weerd: Item 5 is our Consent Agenda.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
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Bird: I move we approve the Consent Agenda as published and for the Mayor to sign
and the Clerk to attest.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda as
published. Madam Clerk, will you call roll.
Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, absent.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 6: Items Moved From Consent Agenda
De Weerd: There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
Item 7: Community Items/Presentations
A. Public Works Donation to Meridian Food Bank
De Weerd: So, we will move to Item No. 7-A, which is Public Works Department and a
presentation to the Meridian Food Bank.
Barry: I'm just going to turn this around. Great. Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members
of the Council. Tom Barry, Public Works Department Director, for those of you in the
audience. I appreciate this opportunity to the talk with you about Meridian Public Works
Week, which was a celebration we held in late May of this year. Last month you might
know that the department participated in the National Public Works Week events that
was a celebration of tens of thousands of men and women across the United States and
Canada that participate in leading the development of the programs, plans, projects and
services for the greater good of the community. The American Public Works
Association is the organization that we are members of and puts on this event and it
involves 28,000 member organizations and staff. In Meridian we use this opportunity to
build awareness of the programs, plans, projects and services that our Public Works
professionals in and around Meridian lead to improve the quality of life for all of the
citizens that we serve. This was the fourth year, as you might know, that we
participated in the event and I want to just at this point in time recognize Kyle Radek
and, Kyle, if you wouldn't mind joining me for a moment. Kyle is our assistant city
engineer in Public Works. This was a great moment for Kyle. Kyle was last year our
chair for the Public Works Week committee. He again volunteered, stepped up this
year and served as our chairman for the Public Works Week committee and did a
tremendous job and actually was looking for ways to improve upon last year and also
looking for ways to expand the various types of activities for the week and I wanted to
recognize him for his efforts as well. This year we were able to add a Public Works golf
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scramble, which was a charity golf scramble, which raised an additional 500 dollars or
so and in addition we also had a number of other events that we added. The Poop
Scoot grew again this year, which was great to see. As part of this year's Poop Scoot
event we have the entrance fee. And for those of you who don't know what that is that's
a fun run-walk, 3K, 5K, fun run-walk. The entrance fee we decided this year instead of
being free was actually going to be a can or a food item that we could donate to the
Meridian Food Bank and that particular event alone helped us raise about 225 pounds
of food that we donated to the Meridian Food Bank. So, we are really excited about this
event. As in years past our Public Works Department has teamed up with engineers,
consultants, and contractors, as well as other public works providers to enhance the
experience of this event. This year we had over 15 sponsors and partners who together
have contributed nearly 4,000 dollars to make this event possible. I want to recognize
them here. It's a long list, but it's worth mentioning, because we rely on sponsorships to
help make this program work. They are CH2M Hill, Civil Survey Consultants, GSI
Water Solutions, Incorporated, Hydrologic, JUB Engineers, Keller Associates, Murray
Smith & Associates, Parametrics, Republic Services, Incorporated, Star Construction,
Teo Engineers, HDR, Project Engineering Consultants, Ltd., Sesco, and Western States
Cat. Now, in addition to that list we had more than 35 other businesses sponsor the
event by donating in kind either through services or through coupons and discounts and
even prizes for the various events that we held through the week. So, that's a huge list
of sponsors that we are very very proud to call partners in this event and we are so
excited, because this event couldn't be possible without them. Thanks to Kyle and the
Public Works committee for helping to bring those sponsors together and helping this
event be possible. Now, in years past we have collected the proceeds of the week long
event and we are pleased to donate them to a local nonprofit organization that does a
tremendous amount of good for our community here at home and that is the Meridian
Food Bank. Last year we participated with the Meridian Food Bank and we raised
about 2,200 dollars that we donated for the bank for the week's activities. This year we
were able to raise nearly 225 pounds, as I mentioned of food, but we were also able to
increase our funding through donations and sponsorships by 45 percent to the Food
Bank for a total of 3,400 dollars. So, it's with great pleasure that I present to the
Meridian Food Bank tonight our collected food, which has already been delivered. We
didn't want it to spoil. But also a check. And I have some sad news and some good
news. It says 3,200 dollars. We just finalized our accounting and it's actually 3,400
dollars that we are able to present to you.
De Weerd: Wow.
Barry: So, the check wrong is, but we have -- the real one is going to be right. So, if
you wouldn't mind coming up. Dan Clark is the founder and chairman of the board for
the Meridian Food Bank and also Pat Porter is a board member of the Meridian Food
Bank. It's with great pleasure that on behalf of the Public Works Department -- and I'd
like to get Kyle in this, too, because he has so much behind the scenes work. We'd like
to give you that check. There you go. Would you like to say anything or -- you don't
have to.
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Porter: Pure appreciation. I tell you. It goes a long way.
De Weerd: Dan, you need to speak into --
Barry: I was hogging the mike. I'm sorry.
Clark: We found that 20 dollars a month will feed one kid in the backpack program, so
when you talk 3,400 dollars you're talking a lot of kids and probably where this is going
to go, since we are getting ready for next year's backpack program. So, thank you.
De Weerd: Fantastic.
Barry: Lastly I do want to recognize the Meridian City Council and our beloved Mayor
for your support in this event. To be able to do this four years in a row now and watch it
grow and watch us touch more and more people in our community, both through the
educational opportunities that we provide, but also through the tangibles, like this kind of
relationship we have forged with the Meridian Food Bank, it just warms all of our hearts
in Public Works and I just thank you for that opportunity and your support.
De Weerd: Thank you, Tom.
Bird: Thank you and your staff.
De Weerd: Well -- and Kyle took off -- oh, there you are. We certainly appreciate you
doing this again, Kyle. Had heard great feedback from the public in regards to all the
activities that week from the tour, which was, again, wildly successful and appreciated
the fun run and the exhibit here at City Hall. Great job. You show a lot of pride and I
think that that resonates to our public that is appreciated. So, thank you so much.
Item 8: Action Items
A. Public Hearing on the Draft Community Development Block Grant
(CDBG) Five-Year Consolidated Plan (2012-2016) and Open 30-
day Public Comment Period
B. Public Hearing on the Draft Community Development Block Grant
(CDBG) Annual Action Plan for Program Year 2012 and Opening
of 30-day Public Comment Period
De Weerd: Okay. Item 8-A under Action Items is a public hearing on the draft
Community Development Block Grant and I will turn this over to Lori.
Den Hartog: Madam Mayor, if I could request -- could we open Items 8-A and 8-B
together?
De Weerd: I guess. Yes.
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Den Hartog: Thank you.
De Weerd: I will open up the public hearing on Item 8-B as well.
Den Hartog: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, we are here before
you this evening to present the draft 2012-2016 consolidated plan and the 2012 annual
action plan for our Community Development Block Grant program. This evening we will
-- I will review some of the information in the draft plans and answer any questions that
you might have. So, just a little background on the consolidated plan. A consolidated
plan is required of any city, county, or state that receives federal block grant funding for
housing and community development. The plan identifies the city's housing and
community development needs, priorities, goals and strategies and the plan directs the
city's spending priorities for the Community Development Block Grant funding for the
next five years. In terms of the process in the development of our plan, the city retained
ABC Research and Consulting last fall for assist with the research and preparation of
our analysis. of impediments to fair housing choice report, which was adopted in April of
this year and our five year consolidated plan. The consolidated plan development
began in the fall of 2011 with resident and stakeholder surreys and interviews. One of
the -- we learned a lot as we were going through the development of the consolidated
plan. The top needs and priorities that were identified in the city's area of greatest need
is in downtown. All three of the identified low to moderate income census blocks are in
downtown Meridian. This area accounts for the oldest housing stock in the city and the
lowest average home sales price. The average sales price for 2010 was 103,000,
which was 63 percent less than the city's overall average sale price for that same year.
Over 1,000 households were determined to be at risk of homelessness in Meridian and
the way that that's defined is households that are extremely low income, they are
houses that own 30 percent of median family income and pay more than 50 percent of
their gross income for their housing needs. So, that's how that 1,000 households at risk
of homelessness is defined. There was found to be a shortage of over 1,000 affordable
rental units available to those households earning less than 25,000 per year. Again, an
affordable rental unit is defined as not being -- as being less than 30 percent of their
gross income. Conducting our resident survey, we had 330 respondents. Thirty-eight
percent of the renter survey respondents said they were extremely interested buying a
home in Meridian. Seventy-three percent of those renter surrey respondents said they
had not purchased a home, because they do not have money for a down payment and
that becomes important later as we talk about what types of activities we are proposing
to fund. I know this chart is small. One of the things we ask our residents to respond to
in the survey was to identify their top needs and priorities and there were seven
sections there and the top services that the residents identified out of each of those
segments -- for community facilities the top priority was youth centers. For
infrastructure the top priority was sidewalk improvements. Under community services
youth activities were the highest priority. Under neighborhood services cleanup of
abandoned lots and buildings was the highest. Under business and jobs, job creation
and retention was the highest priority and in housing energy efficient improvements
were the highest. Out all seven categories, the one that rated the highest out of any
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category in any option was job creation and retention. Through the process we also
worked with our stakeholders and service providers, those organizations within the
community that are serving our low to moderate income residents and we ask them to
identify what they believe to be the greatest housing and community development --
community development needs. Excuse me. They identified downtown redevelopment.
They wanted to see an improved area. Because our low to moderate income
households are concentrated in the downtown area they would like to see more
services and the area improved for those households. Affordable housing was a top
priority and services for persons at risk of homelessness was a top priority. So, based
on the needs and priorities that we heard from our residents and from our stakeholders
we identified three strategies and related objectives to address those needs. The first
strategy is to improve access to affordable housing opportunities for Meridian residents.
You will see there that the objective is to address the need for affordable decent
housing by supporting a down payment assistance program for qualifying households.
We have done this in years past and we have had a great deal of success in working
with our community partners to achieve that. Our five year anticipated outcome is to
assist seven households through that program. The second strategy is to improve the
life of Meridian residents with special needs and residents at risk of homelessness. We
have two objectives with that. Objective 2.1 is to support public service activities that
serve the city's LMI residents. This could be done in a number of ways. We have done
this by supporting the Meridian Food Bank and services through the Boys and Girls
Club in the past. Objective 2.2 is to invest in public facility improvements that serves
persons with special needs and low income residents, as well as public facility
improvements located in the city's LMI areas or serving LMI residents. We have done
this in the past with improvements to some of our park facilities and to our community
center. Our anticipated outcome for the next five years is to fund and complete three
public facilities under this -- under this objective. The third and final strategy is to
improve economic opportunities in the city's low to moderate income areas. The first
objective under that is to support public service activities that provide employment
training or job creation and retention for the city's low to moderate income residents.
Our five year anticipated outcome is to assist 20 residents under this objective. The
second objective under the strategy is to invest in public facility improvements or
activities in the downtown area that address one or more of the conditions which
contributed to the deterioration of the area and our anticipated five year outcome for that
is two businesses or public facilities. We anticipate working closely with the Meridian
Development Corporation in achieving that objective as well. So, moving on into how
that impacts our action plan for the next year, as you know our action plan and our
program year start on October 1, so our estimated entitlement for this coming year is
just over 256,000. Our public service dollars are capped at 15 percent of the allocation.
That's a federal requirement. And administration is capped at 20 percent of the
allegation, although this year were are allocating just 18 percent for administration. For
the public service applications I was before you about a month ago presenting the
applications that we had received through our outreach to our service providers. We
had two applications submitted for a total funding request of just over 78,000 dollars.
Available funding for this program year is 38,500 dollars. The scoring committee
recommended partial funding for both of these applications. The first was hunger
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relieve for the Meridian Food Bank and we are recommending 26,500 dollars for that.
And this relates to consolidated plan objective 2.1 that I was just discussing, with an
anticipated outcome of 2,000 persons assisted. I will say that that is a low number and
looking at the numbers that we receive on a monthly basis from the Food Bank -- and
certainly ours are not by any means the only dollars being contributed to the Food Bank,
but they serve a lot more than that throughout the year. The second public service
project that we are proposing to fund this year is a job training and placement program
for Meridian seniors, in coordination with Open Lines Training and we are proposing a
funding amount of 12,000 dollars for that program to address our objective 3.1, which
ties back to that job creation and retention. And, again, we are anticipating ten seniors
to receive job placement and training through this program. For our nonpublic service
applications we received four this year, for a total funding request 300,000 dollars.
Available funding for these type of applications was 172,000. The scoring committee
recommended three of these applications for funding at varying levels. As you recall
when I was before you in May, there was a fourth project that we did not recommend for
funding was one submitted by the Meridian Development Corporation for street lighting
and we recommended to not fund that, because it would have triggered the Davis
Bacon requirements for the entire split corridor roadway project, which is something we
did not want to impose on everyone. So; with that, the three programs and the three
applications that we are proposing to fund are two down payment assistance programs,
one through Neighborhood Housing Services and one through the Ada County Housing
Authority, both for 21,000 dollars for a total households assisted at three. The reason
they are different in the same amount of funding, they set up their programs a little bit
differently and they can choose, so it could be more households than that, but the two
organizations can choose how much assistance to provide the time qualifying
households. And the third project we are proposing to fund this year is the 8th Street
Park A.D.A. accessible restroom facility. This is our only park facility that does not have
a restroom. We are proposing a recommended funded of 130,000 and that's for design
and construction and to address consolidated plan object 2.1. So, with that the
schedule that we have had in place and moving forward, we had this evening's
presentation, which opens up the comment period on both the five year plan and the
one year action plan and, then, looking to come back before you at end of the line to
close the public hearing and present any comments that we might have received and,
then, forward the adopted plans to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
Development for review. Comments can be submitted to me directly throughout this
comment period, people are welcome to stop in, provide written comment, give me a
phone call, shoot me an a-mail or provide testimony in front of you here. So, with that
I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have.
De Weerd: Thank you, Lori. Questions from Council?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Councilman Rountree.
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Rountree: Lori, on the public service applications, what -- what are the qualifications to
be a senior? Is it age and income? A combination?
Den Hartog: Madam Mayor, Councilman Rountree, it is age and income and I have
looked after our last meeting and everyone has a different definition for senior. I believe
for HUD it was 65. So, we will set that up with Open Lines Training, but we are looking
for seniors that also are below the moderate income. And from what I have discussed
with Open Lines Training, it doesn't sound like they will have difficulty finding -- finding
people who want to participate in the program.
Rountree: And follow up on that -- on that particular project, is there follow up in terms
of the effectiveness and placements of the folks and some kind of monitoring to maybe
make the program even better?
Den Hartog: Yes. Madam Mayor, Councilman Rountree, that's absolutely one of the
things that I will be doing this year working with Open Lines Training as they submit for
reimbursement for their expenses to run this program. One of the requirements will be
to identify how many people they have reached out to, how many people they have
assisted, and how many seniors have actually been placed in jobs. They have
requested a higher amount of funding because it's the first time we have done a project
like this and this is the first time we have worked with this particular organization. We
proposed a lower amount just to kind of see how it goes this first year and to see if we
get the type of results that they are anticipating. So, that will be one of the things when I
come back to you in a year and report I will be able to report to City Council what types
of achievements we have actually seen throughout the year.
Rountree: Thank you.
De Weerd: Any other questions from Council?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: This is a public hearing. We are taking public testimony on Items 8-A and
B. Is there anyone who would like to offer testimony on this item -- on these two items?
Yes, sir. Come on forward. Thank you for joining us. If you will, place, state your name
and address for the record.
Carter: Okay. My name is Brian Carter. I'm at 2860 North Mule Deer Way in Meridian
here.
De Weerd: Thank you.
Carter: For the training -- if I may. I don't recall your name.
Den Hartog: Lori.
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Carter: Lori. For the training for the seniors that are 65 years or older, where will this
training occur at, perhaps? Do we have any idea where that training might occur?
Den Hartog: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, training will take place -- Open
Line Training is a business that's located in downtown Meridian, so they anticipate doing
the training and providing these skills workshops at their location in downtown Meridian
or at the new Meridian senior center. I know that they have been in discussions with the
senior center to coordinate with that.
Carter: So, at the new --
De Weerd: Thank you, Lori.
Carter: At the new --
De Weerd: If you will just direct your questions through me and --
Carter: Okay. So, there will be training, then, at what appears to be a private business
location and at a public facility, is that what I understand, that private being the
downtown location and, then, the public location being at the senior center now in, as I
understand it, Julius --
De Weerd: Julius M. Kleiner Park.
Carter: Right.
De Weerd: Those details would have to be worked out. At this point it's just a proposal.
Carter: Okay.
De Weerd: So --
Carter: So -- because my parents had seen this and they were very interested in seeing
what type of training they could receive. They are over the age of 65 and so I was
researching this for them. They, like me, do also carry and they do know that private
property -- people do have the ability to say, you know, cannot open carry -- conceal
carry -- Idaho Code 18-3302, Subsection 7, but 3302Q) does -- is a preemptive law
which says public facilities can't pass any rules, laws, or anything like that banning the
carrying of firearms, but that presently is the case at Julius M. Kleiner Memorial Park on
one of the plaques there near the -- near the facility and my parents were concerned
about whether or not they would be called upon -- or, you know, just wanted to be sure
that where ever the training is going to be held at that the responsibility of the City of
Meridian and the public department -- parks and rec is able to rectify that no firearm
emblem on the Julius M. Kleiner big map thing that's to the -- I guess to the south of the
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stand -- where you stand at the senior center and that's -- I want to make sure that they
are aware that they can take the training in a place where they can --
De Weerd: Well, if it's in the senior center that is a nonprofit
Carter: Oh. Okay .
De Weerd: It is not a public facility.
Carter: Oh. Okay. I wasn't even aware of that.
De Weerd: So, they are a nonprofit organization. If they were inside their building that
would be different and, Mr. Nary, perhaps you can address the park.
Nary: As you stated, Madam Mayor, Member of the Council, the senior center in the
Julius M. Kleiner Park is a private facility. They can prohibit the carrying of firearms in
their building.
Carter: But on -- in the park itself are they -- because they will be traveling through the
park to get to the facility.
Nary: Right. The park isn't prohibited, just this facility.
Carter: No. But there is a marker emblem in the -- in the park itself that says no
firearms allowed.
Nary: I'm not aware of that, so I would --
Carter: And so I would just encourage --
Nary: Where is the marker related to --
Carter: -- the City of Meridian to look into that to insure that it is in compliance with the
preemptive firearm law that the state of Idaho has.
De Weerd: Well, perhaps after this our parks director is sitting in back of the room and
he can talk with you privately.
Carter: All right, then.
De Weerd: Okay.
Carter: As far as my parents being trained to some things, perhaps if that might be the
case and it's wonderful to see the Council considering these type of things for our
seniors.
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De Weerd: Okay. Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else who would like to provide
testimony on this item? Seeing none. Steve, did you want to go out and talk with that
gentleman? Thanks.
Den Hartog: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, with that I would just request that
we leave this item open and I will be back before you at the end of July requesting
adoption of both that five year consolidated plan and the 2012 action plan.
De Weerd: Thank you so much. So, these two items will continue for the 30 day public
comment period and they will -- we do need to officially continue this public hearing?
Nary: Yes.
De Weerd: Okay.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move we continue the public hearing on Items 8-A and 8-B for a public
comment period to conclude on our regularly scheduled meeting of July 24th, 2012.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to continue these two items. All those in
favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 9: Department Reports
A. Public Works: Approval of Agreement with Ada County Highway
District (ACRD) for Construction of the Meridian Split Corridor
Phase 2 Project
De Weerd: Item 9-A under Department Reports, I will turn this over to Clint.
Dolsby: Thank you. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I'm here to present the
agreement between ACRD and the City of Meridian for the construction of split corridor
phase two project for your consideration. A couple things to consider in this agreement.
First of all, the city will not be paying for project admin traffic control and mobilization.
That's typically a shared cost between the city and ACRD. In this particular agreement
ACRD is going to take the full weight of that cost. Also the alternate accesses, which
were originally estimated at a cost of one million dollars, it would be split 50-50 between
the city and ACRD, so it would be 500,000 for each. We have received the bids on
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those and the total bid makes the city's share of that cost 124,000 dollars, instead of the
originally estimated 500,000 dollars.
De Weerd: Wow. Like the sound of that.
Dolsby: Yeah. Yeah. So did we.
De Weerd: Good job.
Dolsby: And, lastly, ACHD is proposing to split an incentive that they'd like to offer the
contractor for early finish 50-50 with the city based on the ratios of cost between the city
and ACHD, the max cost to the city would be approximately 90,000 dollars for this
incentive if the contractor finished as early as possible on the project. So, with that I'd
stand for any questions.
De Weerd: Council, any questions?
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: There was some discussion about how the last item was calculated that --
the numbers that you're stating are the 50-50 split that was --
Dolsby: Madam Mayor, Councilman Zaremba, yeah, that is correct. A 50-50 split.
Zaremba: Okay. I would add that I personally support that, particularly the savings on
the other two items and whatever we can do to help our businesses. We had talked
different percentages some other time, but I'm -- I'm comfortable with a 50-50 split.
De Weerd: Well -- and I know Adam had a comment, as did Caleb. So, arm wrestle
Zaragoza: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, for the record Adam Zaragoza.
ACHD project manager. I just wanted to clarify the last item that Clint presented and
maybe because the current staff member that's been working with us on it is not here,
but the proposal that was on the table was for the city to split the incentive up to
350,000 dollars, so that would put the total cost to the city at 175,000. I just wanted to
be clear on that versus the 90,000 that was proposed.
De Weerd: So, Adam, I wasn't part of the discussion, but is -- is there going to be a
penalty if they do not finish on time?
Zaragoza: Yeah. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, the way that equation was
worked out it's 4,000 dollars per calendar day. That 4,000 dollars per calendar day will
equate to the back end if they do not finish on time and we will split that cost back with
the city at 50-50, too.
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De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions for Adam while we have him here?
Rountree: Madam Mayor, I'm confused on the two amounts for the incentive. An
amount not to exceed 175, but the amount estimated is 88,000?
Dolsby: Madam Mayor, Councilman Rountree, on a maximum total to the city of
175,000 dollars for the incentive, but based on a ration of the city's project costs to the
ACHD project cost, the maximum cost to the city would be 89,000 dollars is the figure
that I had, based on the bids that have come in I'm guessing. I don't know if Adam
would like to clarify.
Zaremba: I would comment on that. That's -- that's kind of why I asked my question.
We went away from the ratio of cost, I think, when ACHD proposed 50-50, that the ratio
of cost was an earlier estimate and your number is probably accurate if you're using that
ratio, but the discussion was to use a different ratio and that would be 50-50 and I'm --
as Ihave stated, I'm comfortable with the 50-50.
Rountree: Still confused, Madam Mayor.
Zaremba: That would -- the 85, 89 thousand dollar figure uvould -- would not be
relevant. It would be -- the 175 would be the potential exposure.
Zaragoza: Yeah. That would be the max that the contractor would get paid from the
city. At least that's the last total that we sent to the staff.
De Weerd: And Councilman Rountree --
Rountree: I was confused about the comment that Clinton made that ACHD would do
the traffic control and all of that stuff. That's our position, not ACHD's position?
Zaragoza: I can touch on that. Clint is kind of in a bad spot here, because Tim is out
sick, so I will try to cover for that. But when we looked at the traffic control amount,
basically with the roadway being shut down we would probably spend more in
administrative fees between the two agencies than actually paying for the traffic control,
so we went ahead and just waived that part of the city reimbursement back to the city --
Rountree: Okay.
Zaragoza: -- while the road was shut down.
Rountree: Okay. All right. Now it all makes sense.
De Weerd: Well, that's what we live for.
Nary: Madam Mayor?
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De Weerd: Mr. Nary
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, in looking at the agreement, though, if I
could ask Adam, I don't see language in regards to the incentive in this agreement.
This cost share agreement has sections on the -- the -- it's in the memo that was
prepared, but it's not in the agreement itself. Am I missing something?
Bird: I don't know. The last agreement that we sent over to the staff --
Nary: The one that's in front of the Council tonight was dated last week as a final, but I
don't see anything regarding the incentive. I only see the -- the section deals with the --
Imean Iguess it's something if we -- is it all right if we don't approve it tonight, if the
Council's direction is to approve that, that we make sure that's in here, because I'm not
seeing -- all I'm seeing is these large numbers in regards to the lighting project, the
sewer project, and the cost share in regards to the landscape project of the free right
turn. But I don't see anything in regards to the incentive.
Zaragoza: And I can't speak to that, because I know the last one that we sent over to
the staff included the 50-50 language.
De Weerd: Okay. So, would it be all right if we didn't approve it tonight, if that's the
Council's direction, and we get that worked out and approve it next week?
Zaragoza: If we can get the Council direction that the Council would support it 50-50,
my plan is to take it to the commission next week with your position on that -- your
position on that, on the 50-50 split and, then, we can sign -- get the three parties to sign
between MDC, ACHD and the --
Nary: All right.
De Weerd: Okay. Anything further from --
Dolsby: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Dolsby: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, in Section 6.4 of the agreement that I
have in front of me -- I think it's the -- the third line, it says that city shall also be
responsible and shall reimburse ACHD for one half of any early completion incentive
costs that may be paid to the construction contractor. I wasn't sure if that was the same
one we were looking at. That's the one I have in front of me. It's Section 6.4. Looks
like it's the second sentence. It's on page six.
Nary: Yeah. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I guess my only concern is all
they are talking about there is the -- I guess most of what they are talking about in that
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section is the sewer project. Not the overall project. So, I guess -- I think if the city is
going to be responsible for a portion of an incentive, that to put it in the middle of the
section dealing with the sewer project might be very misleading, if that's where it was
supposed to be. And since we called out every other section of this agreement in
regards to the project and the phases, it probably makes more sense to have it by itself.
If the Council direction is to pay that. So, if we could clean that up we could put it on
next week.
Zaragoza: Certainly.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I would suggest that I am in favor of what we are talking about, the split on
the incentive and possibly the penalty would be 50-50. And if that takes some cleaning
up of the wordage and we can actually pass that next week, that's fine, but I'm -- I would
suggest that we go that direction.
De Weerd: Okay.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I don't see any place in here where it says 175 is going to be our -- our top dollar
value.
De Weerd: Well, if we can get agreement to the concept, we can work with ACHD to
clean up the language, to put the cap in there and put it in the --amore transparent
place, so it's easier to find. That -- with Council's direction we can certainly do that. I
guess what we need to know is is that what the majority of you believe. We know what
one thinks.
Rountree: Well, I kind of like the way the contract's written right now.
Bird: It will come back to hang us somewhere.
Rountree: But I'm okay with moving ahead with the inventive. We need to get this
project done as fast as we can, whatever it takes.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
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Zaremba: Just to confirm with us and with Adam, our meeting would be on Tuesday,
the 26th. Your commission meeting would be on Wednesday the 27th?
Zaragoza: Madam Mayor, Councilman Zaremba, yes, that's correct.
Zaremba: Okay. so, even though it's only like 24 hours before, that's still soon enough
for you to act?
Zaragoza: Yeah. Madam Mayor, Councilman Zaremba, yes, that's correct.
Zaremba: Okay.
De Weerd: And I think it would be fair if Council wanted to make a motion tonight on the
document with the direction to staff to add clarity with specifics and to bring back a final
version next week that will also give Adam a little bit more leeway in what he can
indicate to the commission ahead of time. Even though you don't like to get things the
day of.
Zaremba: So moved.
De Weerd: I didn't make any motion.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move that in concept we approve the cost share agreement, with the clarity
of working being made of the 50-50 split on the incentive and, actually, defining the not
to exceed of 175,000 and accepting ACHD's offer to handle the road control and
flagging costs and offer to handle the administrative costs.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Any further
needed, Caleb? We are good? Okay. Madam Clerk, will you call roll.
Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, absent.
De Weerd: All eyes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
De Weerd: Thank you, Adam.
Zaragoza: Thank you.
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Item 10: Ordinances
A. Ordinance No. 12-1516: An Ordinance for Annexation of a portion
of land located at 3775 E. Ustick, in the Northeast 1/4 of the
Northwest 1/4 of Section 4, Township 3 North, Range 1 East,
Boise Meridian, Ada County, Idaho, . (AZ 12-001 -Ustick LDS
Stake Center)
De Weerd: Okay. Under Item No. 10-A, Proposed Ordinance is 12-1516. Madam
Clerk, will you, please, read this by title only.
Jones: Thank you, Madam Mayor. An Ordinance AZ 12-001, Ustick LDS Stake Center
for annexation of a portion of land located in the northeast one quarter of the northeast
one quarter of Section 4, Township 3 North, Range 1 East, Boise Meridian, Ada County,
Idaho as described in Attachment A and annexing certain land and territory situated in
Ada County, Idaho, and adjacent and contiguous to the corporate limits of the City of
Meridian as requested by the City of Meridian establishing and determining the land use
zoning classification of said lands from RUT to R-8, Medium Density Residential District,
in the Meridian City Code, providing that copies of this ordinance shall be filed with the
Ada County Assessor, the Ada County Recorder, and the Idaho State Tax Commission,
as required by law, and providing for a summary of the ordinance and providing for a
waiver of the reading rule, and providing an effective date.
De Weerd: You have heard this ordinance read by title only. Is there anyone who
would like to hear it read in its entirety? Council?
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve Ordinance No. 12-1516 with suspension of rules.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve Item 10-A. Madam Clerk, will you,
please, call roll.
Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, absent.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
B. First Reading of Ordinance No. 12-1517: Nuisance, Solid Waste,
and Noise Code Updates
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De Weerd: Item 10-B is Ordinance No. 12-1517. Madam Clerk, will you, please, read
this by title only.
Jones: Thank you, Madam Mayor. An ordinance adding definitions of graffiti and
nuisance materials to Meridian City Code, adding provisions to prohibit a nuisance
graffiti and nuisance materials. Establishing abatement processes and penalties for
failure to abate nuisance weeds, graffiti and nuisance materials. Establishing penalties
for general nuisances, clarifying ownership of solid waste or recyclables. Clarifying
public disturbance, noise time period, providing a savings clause and providing an
effective date.
De Weerd: You have heard this ordinance read by title only. And, Council, it is the first
reading. Would you like to consider a motion waiving the additional readings?
Rountree: Madam Mayor, I have a couple of comments that I'd like to bring up.
De Weerd: Okay.
Rountree: I'm not concerned about whether we pass it or not. The first question is --
and it's just an explanation to me is why is an abatable nuisance a misdemeanor and
the other nuisances that are later described just an infraction, if you will?
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think when we brought this up last
week we were trying to separate out the certain nuisances to require that they can be
citable, so they can cite them at the time, but, then, there are other types of offenses
that require court action, which is why they end up having to be misdemeanors.
Otherwise, you could just continue to receive tickets and not actually abate the
nuisance, so --
Rountree: Okay. My next comments come from a conversation I had with a gentleman
last week, Thursday or Friday. He called and was very upset about the weed issue that
he was dealing with in dealing with the city. On a positive note, he was very very
complimentary of code enforcement. He thought they acted in a very professional
manner. But he was very upset about the tone in the letter that he received about the
violation and he indicated that the code enforcement officer really didn't have a lot of
choice, that the letter contained information that it had to have and, in fact, in Section
4-2-3, paragraph B, of abatable nuisances, it goes out and explains and lists what the
notice need to contain and I suspect it needs to contain that to be in compliance with the
law and being able to site and being able to enforce -- and I don't know how you write it
into the ordinance, but the letter -- and Trace and I have talked about this just a little bit
ago, that it ought to be more of a positive tone. It comes across as being pretty harsh
and, in fact, he was very upset that he was being threatened with the possibility of a
thousand dollar fine and possible jail, because it is a misdemeanor and is explained as
such in the letter. So, I don't -- I don't know whether you address it -- whether the
ordinance has to be this strong. I guess that's my question. If it does, then, it's just a
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matter of working with code enforcement and getting the letter and the communication
from the city more on a please and thank you basis.
De Weerd: Well -- and, Mr. Rountree, if I can, we do have a please and thank you for
the first number of letters and, then, there does come a point where the language is
stronger.
Rountree: And I can understand that.
De Weerd: And from -- we did get a concerned citizen that made comment. I don't
know if it's the same, but the one that we received, that was not the first letter that had
been received. I think it was the fifth or sixth. I -- I don't recall what -- what number, but
it was a number of letters down in the correspondence. Mr. Nary.
Rountree: I know there is two sides to the story. The story I got was that there was -- it
was the first letter and was offensive.
Basterrechea: May I address that, Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Basterrechea: Some of the letters that have gone out were the first letters that were
sent out. Because trying to track down who the actual owner was of that property or
who was in charge of that property was -- was difficult to do. I did generate several
complaints. Code Enforcement handled those complaints very well. But as part of the
proactive approach towards the weeds in the city, because of issues we have had in the
past, the initial letters that have gone out have been the letters that have said clean
these up. One of the complaints has also been that it's complaint driven, which to an
extent many of these issues are complaint driven by neighbors and other people in the
city. However, code enforcement has been very proactive of going out and finding this
property before the complaints come in and trying to address those issues. We have
looked at the letter. We have reviewed it. It is pretty stern and I think there are some
improvements that may be able to be made to that letter while still containing the
information that we need a line out on what the penalties are.
De Weerd: Tracy, were those -- was this the outreach to our repeat properties that
have had weed --
Basterrechea: Many of them are from in the past. Not necessarily this year, but in the
past, yes.
De Weerd: Okay. So, it's not like this was the first touch from the city, but I do
understand. There are certain things and points that we need to make, but there is a --
not gentle, but maybe the velvet hammer thing.
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Basterrechea: Exactly. And, to be honest with you, some of the complaint was,
basically, if you would have started out the letter with please I would have taken it a lot
better. It's something as simple as that.
De Weerd: Okay.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I would comment that I perhaps have had a conversation with what sounds
like the same gentleman that we are talking about and I'm not sure he said it
specifically, but I took it to be his first letter and I'm in line with what is being said, that I
understand by the time you get to the third or fourth letter it needs to be pretty -- pretty
serious. But I had another thought after talking to him, whether or not whatever letter
was sent out, instead of putting all the details and fines and the jail time and all that in
the text of the letter, could we have a little violation pamphlet -- and I'm not talking about
an expensive production, but just a photocopied eight and a half by 11 that's folded
three times, where the violations -- or the penalties are listed, so that that actually isn't in
the body of the letter, but they still get the message. It could be produced fairly cheaply
I think and just inserted with the letter for them to read at their leisure. I know vue often
-- like with our electric power bills, get a separate little notice that says we are looking
for a rate adjustment or something and it -- it's sort of separate, but you can read it and
understand what could happen.
De Weerd: Well --- and statistics show us that people don't read that.
Rountree: Yeah.
De Weerd: You know -- and I would agree if it was the first letter with the pamphlet, but
the third or fourth or fifth or sixth --
Zaremba: Then it becomes very pointed.
De Weerd: Yeah.
Zaremba: I agree.
De Weerd: Yeah.
Rountree: Madam Mayor, I just brought that up to find out if the language in the
ordinance had to be that way. Apparently it does. But take care of the issue some
other way, not with -- not with the ordinance, so --
De Weerd: Right.
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Rountree: With that I'm okay with the ordinance, with that explanation.
Nary: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, our desire or I guess hope for your
direction was to leave this on for one additional week, allow some opportunity for public
comment. We, basically, introduced it as a department report last week. We, then, put
it on your agenda this year. There hasn't been very much if any opportunity for
comment about it. Again, we will work on the letter issue, that's a little separate, but we
are really just trying to get some clean up and some clarity and I will say both in our
office's defense and Code Enforcement we do take a much stronger proactive
approach. The two, three, four letters on weeds, by the time you get to your weeds,
they are six feet high. So, we really can't -- we can't give them that much warning or
leeway on weed issues, because we know they will grow pretty quick in the summer
and all of a sudden they are a fire hazard. So, we do try to -- but, again, we can work in
a little bit of language that maybe isn't quite so draconian sounding to people that the
next thing they are going to get is --
De Weerd: And start with please.
Nary: We will certainly always try to start with please. Anyway, our intent would be to --
if you would like to leave it on for an additional week, opportunity for public comment
before you were to approve it.
Rountree: I'm good with that.
C. First Reading of Ordinance No. 12-1518: Animal Control Code
Updates
De Weerd: Okay. Very good. Okay. Ordinance No. 10-C is 12-1518. Madam Clerk,
will you, please, read this by title only.
Jones: Thank you, Madam Mayor. An ordinance of the City of Meridian, repealing and
replacing Chapter 2, Title 6, of the Meridian City Code relating to animal control,
including definitions, animal control officer, city dog pound, City of Meridian dog license,
impoundment, reclamation and relinquishment of dogs, declaration of abandonment,
declaration of vicious dog, livestock harbored on private. property, prohibited acts,
providing a savings clause, providing for a waiver of the reading rules and providing an
effective date.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, you have heard this first reading. Are there questions?
Concerns?
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
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De Weerd: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: The definition defines an animal as any member of the animal kingdom, with
the exception of humans. In the body of the ordinance itself it talks about actions
against any animal. Cruelty and whatever. And I suspect that there are some critters
that if you hit with your spade in the garden, like a garter snake or --
De Weerd: A gopher.
Rountree: -- a toad or a gopher, that somebody could file a complaint that you have
done something cruel to an animal.
De Weerd: The gopher might.
Rountree: To me it's probably better language to address either domesticated animals
or -- most of the ordinance speaks specifically to dogs, with a little bit about livestock.
So, maybe we ought to get it -- get it zeroed in to where we don't have that wide open
door for more enforcement problems.
Nary: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Nary.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think we can probably just clean that
up in five, because in Section E has what cruelty is and cruelty -- that's a state code
definition of cruelty as well. But section five talks about poisoning rodents and pests. It
doesn't talk about any other method like a trap or something else. So, we can certainly
include that in section five, that any type of -- I mean, obviously, nobody is going to go
to jail for having a mouse trap and -- that crushes a mouse and I think this one only
deals with poisoning and not necessarily any other type of, you know, rodent control or
pest control, those kind of things. So, we can add that to five to make it clear that that's
what we are talking about.
Rountree: And I -- yeah.
De Weerd: But isn't that what the agencies come out and do, is they poison the
rodents?
Nary: And poisoning is exempt.
De Weerd: Oh. Okay.
Nary: I'm talking about traps. If you were to trap some or as Council Member
Rountree --
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De Weerd: Or hit it with a --
Nary: Hit it with a shovel.
De Weerd: --shovel.
Nary: -- then -- but, obviously, any type of rodent control isn't what we are talking about.
And I think on the first one is the state code and the case law is pretty clear on the --the
maliciously cruel, killing, maiming, wounding, beating animals isn't talking about like the
-- the slaughtering of animals for food. We are not talking about that. We are talking
about the method of -- that different. But that's what -- state code defines it. But if you
feel it needs more definition, we certainly could do that. We are really good at writing
lots of things to make it sound pretty icky if you want, so we could do that.
De Weerd: Yeah. Like slaughtering animals for food, you know. Yeah
Nary: Right.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I'd move that we continue this to a second reading.
De Weerd: I don't think we need a motion to -- we will just put it on --
Nary: Put it on. Yes.
Item 11: Future Meeting Topics
De Weerd: -- next week and -- and we will bring back some changes for your
consideration and discussion next week. Okay. If there is nothing further, are there any
items to consider for future meeting topics?
Bird: I have none.
Item 12: Executive Session Per Idaho State Code 67-2345 (1)(c)(d): (c) To
Conduct Deliberations Concerning Labor Negotiations or to Acquire an
Interest in Real Property, Which is Not Owned by a Public Agency, and
(d) To Consider Records that are Exempt from Disclosure as Provided
in Chapter 3, Title 9, Idaho Code.
De Weerd: Okay. Well, then, we will go to Item 12, which is an Executive Session per
Idaho State Code 67-2345(1) (c) and (d). Do I have a motion?
Bird: So moved.
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Zaremba: Second.
De Weerd: Motion and a second to adjourn into Executive Session. Madam Clerk, will
you, please, call roll.
Roll Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, absent.
De Weerd: All ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSENT.
EXECUTIVE SESSION: (8:04 p.m. to 8:47 p.m.)
Bird: I move we come out of Executive Session.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: Motion and a second to come out of Executive Session, all those in favor
say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Bird: Move to adjourn.
Rountree: Second.
De Weerd: All those in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:47 P.M.
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