HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 20, 2003 P&Z MinutesMeridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
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legalities, it was felt necessary to renotice that. It will be -- it has been re-noticed
for December 18th. If there -- since it has been noticed for tonight, if any of you
would like to stay and would not be able to come the other time, we would take
your testimony this evening. You're welcome to stay and we would take the
testimony, but there would not be a presentation by the developer.
Item 7. Public Hearing: PP 03-030 Request for Preliminary Plat
approval o f 4 8 residential I ots, 21 o ffice I ots, a nd 7 o ther I ots o n
14.58 acres in an L-O zone for proposed Maverick Subdivision by
Dirk Marcum and Michael Riggs -south of East Overland Road on
the west side of Millennium Way:
Borup: Okay. Continuing on. Item n umber seven is PP 03-030, request for
Preliminary Plat approval of 48 residential lots, 21 office lots, and seven other
lots on 14.58 acres in an L-O zone for proposed Maverick Subdivision. Item
number nine, CUP 03-045, request for a Conditional Use Permit to modify
existing Planned Unit Development to allow for office uses. This is at Overland
Road and Millennium Way in an L-O zone. This is for the proposed Maverick
Subdivision. I'd like to open both hearings at this time and start with the staff
report.
Hood: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, m embers of the Commission. Craig Hood,
Planning and Zoning staff. The applicant has requested preliminary plat and
conditional use approval for a Planned Development on 14.48 acres of land
located on the south side of Overland Road, on the west side of Meridian Way,
between Locust Grove Road and Eagle Road. The subject site is designated
high density residential on the 2002 Comprehensive Plan future land use map
and currently zoned L-O. The subject site was previously plotted as Lot 6, Block
1, of Resolution Subdivision. The submitted Preliminary Plat proposes to
subdivide the existing 14.58-acre lot into 48 residential lots, 21 office lots, and
seven other common lots. The submitted Conditional Use Permit planned
development proposes to modified the previously approved conceptual permit by
reducing the number of apartment units from 200 to 192 and including 21 office
pad sites along Overland Road and Millennium Way. All the proposed units
contain two bedrooms. The applicant is proposing to construct a clubhouse,
complete with pool and playground facilities and pedestrian pathways throughout
the development as amenities for the PD. The detailed CUP includes a request
for reduced setbacks for the buildings, reduced lot frontage, and reduced lot
sizes in the L-O zone. As part of the detailed approval for the previous
Conditional Use Permit on this site, the previous applicant was proposing to
construct 20 multi-family buildings, with each building containing 10 units
arranged to appear as one very large residence. This big house concept
provided a different multi-family development design and feel than most other
apartment complexes within the city. The applicant has responded to the written
staff report and agrees that -- and staff agrees that east should be west and east
should -- or west should be east and east should be west in the conditions - site-
specific condition six and seven. After talking with the Public Works Department,
they would prefer to just leave the standard conditions of approval in the staff
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report as written and then, sign off on those, rather than delete them entirely from
the staff report.
Zaremba: You're referring to page nine, numbers eight and nine?
Hood: Conditions eight and nine, correct? That concludes staffs report and I'll
stand for any questions you may have.
Borup: Questions from the Commission? Does the developer have a
presentation they'd like to make?
Brown: For the record, my name is Kent Brown, 1800 West Overland, Boise,
Idaho. I guess to start off with one of the things that we have to change on it is
the name Maverick. We were hoping to use that with the Maverick -- the
Mountain View High School and, apparently, they have built a gas statioh and
had to do a subdivision. Mr. Priester said that name has been used and it's
going to be called Sage Crest and the modified drawings that we provided to staff
to answer and comply with the things that they were concerned about showed
those and you should have received a copy of those. One of the modifications
that we made to comply with the staff report is in our northwest corner. You can
see that we have provided that cross-access at this location to our neighbor. We
had two office lots there. We increased this office and made it larger, to be able
to provide that connection that they were looking for. We can meet the other
access that was spoken about east being west and west being east by -- in that
location we would probably do that with across-access to meet the setback
requirements. From your parking you're supposed to have five feet? Correct?
That's why it's drawn the way that it is. If the access needs to be there, I guess
we can take it right over and make that correction when and if that takes place.
We have t ried t o p rovide a p ool a nd a c lubhouse i n t his I ovation. T here i s a
playground located here. Felt that those were nice amenities. One of the other
amenities that we have shown is a walking path that goes in between the office
and the residential units, comes alohg the back here, ties into the sidewalk
system here, continues up the west side and links back in. The office people
also could get on the sidewalk in this location and come down and they can also
walk in this location and access the pathway that will be located around the
development. I don't mean to belabor anything else. I don't know that there is a
whole lot. I will just answer questions.
Rohm: I'm curious about this access right there. Is this whole piece of property
sitting to your west? Is this the only access that that piece of property will have
off of Overland Road?
Brown: No.
Rohm: They will be able to gain access directly from --
Borup: This has got access from Locust Grove also.
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Rohm: Okay.
Borup: Is that all one partner, one ownership property?
Brown: Uh-huh. All that that's intended to do -- I don't know if you get frustrated,
but you get into a parking lot and you got an office that's -- you thought that you
were getting off the right location and this just provides this cross-access
between I would imagine other office users.
Borup: Okay. Well, that's a real traffic reduction. You know, some of the old
things on Fairview in Boise, to go to one store from the other you got to go clear
back out on the street to go next door.
Rohm: Well, I guess what my concern was is this is going to be a very busy
intersection right here and -- and I thought that the intent was to tray and
minimize the number of ingresses and egresses off of the main roadway and if
we have one -- you have an access off of Overland right in here and then, having
another one right in here, it just seems like it's asking for trouble down the road.
It appears that way to me and so my point was -- is it didn't look like that there
was a lot of vehicular traffic available there, it was just more, like you say, if you
pulled into the wrong driveway you could, actually, make it over to the right one
and It just seems like it should be wider. Is that possible?
Brown: The travel lane is very similar to what a regular local street would be. It's
28 foot and you have 34-foot width, 50-foot right of way -- I would think that the
28-foot is adequate.
Borup: Don't we already have a project to the west that's been approved?
Zaremba: Even if we don't, I would add that ACHD just completed the Overland
Road project across here and here is a driveway cut into that other property, so --
Rohm: In here?
Zaremba: There is an existing --
Rohm: If there is, then --
Zaremba: --driveway cut in, so I assume they are expecting that to be used.
Borup: Okay. It's a separate parcel under separate ownership right now. Okay.
Zaremba: I had a question. You identify on the preliminary plat a lot called an
access lot, which, apparently, is all the driveways and the parking and stuff like
that. Does that differ from a common lot in how it will be maintained and who is
responsible for resurfacing it 30 years down the road or is it like a common lot
with just a --
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Brown: It's exactly like a common lot, without being a private drive. It just
provides access and there will be a mutual maintenance over that, so --
Zaremba: The homeowners association and business owners association?
Brown: Right. Exactly.
Zaremba: Okay, and the other would be just an opinion. On this access here to
the east, assuming this other property will develop sometime soon, even if we
don't have an application now, I can't see having you go to the expense of five
feet of landscaping for that 30 foot wide stretch necessarily. I would think just act
as if it's going to be connected sometime soon. Is staff comfortable with that?
My only other question -- I know this is an L-O zone, which has some restrictions
about what can go into the businesses. There being a high school literally right
there, do you envision any of these being fast food restaurants or needing to
have drive-thrus or --
Brown: If any of those were to come before you, they would have to come
through with adetail --
Zaremba: The CUP process.
Brown: -- CUP process, and so, basically, the only detailed portion of this
process that we are going through tonight is the residential portion and each and
every one of those office spaces and the uses there you will be reviewing. It's
kind of similar to what Boise does with design review, the way that we are
approaching that, but we are comfortable with each one of those offices coming
in that way. We have received a lot of interest from -- I mean Briggs wants to
move to Meridian. That's a great location. It's less than a mile from my house.
My son goes to Mountain View but we can't coerce him for an office yet, but we
are working on that, so -- but I know that that's been some of the use that they
have had, probably a little more commercial type of an office use out on Overland
versus being closer to the high school.
Borup: But did you say they would need to come back under a CUP?
Brown: Yes.
Borup: Was that -- was that how this parcel was originally -- that was one of the
original conditions on this parcel?
Brown: No. The original approval was for a detailed approval for --
Borup: I remember -- no. I remember that. I mean why does it need to come
back with a CUP?
Brown: Because we are not specifically showing you what the spaces are going
to be.
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Borup: Oh. Okay. It doesn't affect the zoning, just the --
Brown: The zoning will remain the same and they would have to comply with the
zone and come in for a CUP.
Borup: Do we have anyone else to testify on this application? Seeing none,
Commissioners?
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Borup: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move the Public Hearing on Item 7 and Item 8 be closed.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the Public Hearing on Items 7 and 8. All in
favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman?
Borup: Commissioner Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move we forward to the City Council recommending approval of Item
7 on our agenda, PP 03-030, request for a Preliminary Plat approval of 48
residential lots, 21 office lots, and seven other lots on 14.58 acres in an L-O zone
for proposed Maverick Subdivision. With a note that the name will be changed to
Sage Crest, by Dirk Marcum and Michael Riggs, south of east Overland Road on
the west side of Millennium Way, to include all staff comments of their memo for
the P&Z hearing of November 20, 2003, received by the clerk November 14,
2003, with the following minor changes. On Page 2, middle paragraph, as stated
above, the middle sentence in that, the conceptual CUP include multiple parcels
and its boundary extended from Locust Grove -- west should be east and on
Page 7, Item Number 6, east should be west. Item Number 7 west should be
east. End of motion.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: I'm sorry. I was making notes. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Any
opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 8. Public Hearing: CUP 03-045 Request for a Conditional Use
Permit to modify existing Planned Unit Development to allow for
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office uses along Overland Road and Millennium W ay in an L-O
zone for proposed Maverick Subdivision by Dirk Marcum and
Michael Riggs -south of East Overland Road on the west side of
Millennium Way:
Zaremba: Mr. Chairman, I move we forward to the City Council recommending
approval of Item 8 on our Agenda, CUP 03-045, request for a Conditional Use
Permit to modify existing planned unit development to allow for office uses along
Overland Road and Millennium Way in an L-O zone for proposed Maverick
Subdivision, with a note that that name will be changed to Sage Crest, by Dirk
Marcum and Michael Riggs. South of East Overland Road on the west side of
Millennium Way, to include all staff comments of their memo for November 20,
2003, received by the clerk, November 14, 2003.
Mathes: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Item 9. Public Hearing: CUP 03-054 Request for a Conditional Use
Permit to modify commercial to include four out pads, 25,000
square foot retail and include Phase II of office complex in C-N and
R-40 zones for Devon Park Subdivision No. 1 & 2 by Hopkins
Financial Services, Inc. - 824 East Fairview Avenue:
Item 10. Public Hearing: CUP 03-055 Request for a Conditional Use
Permit to construct a 25,000 square foot retail building with a drive
up window in a C-N zone for Devon Park Subdivision No. 1 & 2
by Hopkins Financial Services, Inc. - 824 East Fairview Avenue:
Item 11. Public Hearing: RZ 03-011 Request for a rezone of 9.34 acres
from I-L to R-15 zones for proposed Mayfair Commons
Subdivision by Wildwood Development, LLC - 1125 East Pine
Street:
Borup: Okay. Thank you. The next items, Items No. 9 and 10, is Public Hearing
CUP 03-054, request for a Conditional Use Permit to modify commercial to
include four out paths, 2,500 square feet of retail, include phase three of office
complex in the C-N and R-40 zones for Devon Park Subdivision No. 1 and 2 by
Hopkins Financial and accompanying that is CUP 03-055, request for a
Conditional Use Permit to construct a 2,500 square foot retail building, drive-up
window, C-N zone, the same Devon Park Subdivision No. 1 and 2. I'd like to
open both Public Hearings at this time and start with the staff report.
Hawkins-Clark: Thank you, Chairman Borup, Members of the Commission,
before I give the staff report, I guess a point of clarification. I guess the applicant