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CITY COUNCIL REGULAR
MEETING AGENDA
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 at 7:00 PM
1. Roll-Call Attendance
X David Zaremba X Brad Hoaglun
X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird
X Mayor Tammy de Weerd
2. Pledge of Allegiance
3. Community Invocation by Pastor Gordon Slyter with Treasure Valley
Worship Center
4. Adoption of the Agenda Adopted
5. Consent Agenda Approved (Pg. 2)
A. Approve Minutes of August 23, 2011 City Council Special
Meeting
B. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2011 City Council PreCouncil
Meeting
C. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2011 City Council Regular
Meeting
D. Approve Minutes of October 11, 2011 City Council Workshop
Meeting
E. Approval of New Liquor License Application for Wood-Wood
Inc. dba Beef O'Bradys Located at 1505 S. Eagle Rd., #190
F. Final Order for Approval: TEC 11-006 Shops at Victory by DMG
- Eagle & Victory, LLC Located at 3210 S. Eagle Road Request:
Two (2) Year Time Extension on the Preliminary Plat and
Conditional Use Permit for the Shops at Victory
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G. Final Order for Approval: FP 11-008 Spurwing Grove No. 2 by
SWG Brighton, LLC Located at Northwest Corner of N. Jayker
Way and W. Magic Spruce Drive Request: Final Plat Approval
for 10 Residential Building Lots and 2 Common Lots on 3.03
Acres in an R-8 Zoning District
H. Task Order 10029 for Pine Trunk Sewer Connector (Design) to
JUB Engineers for the Not-To-Exceed Amount of $68,235.00
I. Order for Floodplain Variance Request of Building Addition at
975 E. Pine Street by Ada County Operations Department
J. Memorandum of Agreement for Rental of Rocky Mountain High
School Auditorium for aNot-to-Exceed Amount of $825.00
K. Professional Services Agreement with Jeanette Light for
Instructor Services
L. Resolution No. 11-811: A Resolution of the City of Meridian
Providing for an Update of the Grievance Procedure for the
City of Meridian in Connection with Section 504 of the
Rehabilitation Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act
M. Amended onto the Agenda: Release and Settlement
Agreement with TMC, Inc.
N. Amended onto the Agenda: Memorandum of Understanding
Between TMC, Inc. and the City of Meridian
6. Community Items/Presentations
A. Swearing In Of New Police Officers (Pg. 4-5)
B. Success Breeds Success for Idaho Green Works Expo 2012
(Pg. 5-9)
7. Items Moved From Consent Agenda
8. Action Items
A. FP 11-009 Zebulon Heights Subdivision No.4 by Tuscany
Development Located South of E. McMillan Road and West of
N. Eagle Road Request: Final Plat Approval of 12 Single-
Family Residential Building Lots and Two (2) Common Area
Lots on 7.22 Acres Approved (Pg. 9-13)
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B. Public Hearing: TEC 11-008 Woodland Springs by Woodland
Springs, LLC Generally Located on the Northeast Corner of N.
Locust Grove Road and E. McMillan Road Request: Two (2)
Year Time Extension on the Preliminary Plat for Woodland
Springs Subdivision to Obtain the City Engineer's Signature
on the Phase 2 Final Plat Approved (Pg. 13-15)
C. Public Hearing: RZ 11-003 Kingsbridge by BHH Kingsbridge,
LLC Generally Located East Side of S. Eagle Road; Midway
Between E. Victory Road and E. Amity Road Request: Rezone
of 38.31 Acres of Land from the R-2 Zoning. District to the R-4
Zoning District
Continued to November 1, 2011 (Pg. 15)
D. Public Hearing: PFP 11-002 VanAuken Subdivision by Mason &
Stanfield Inc. Located at 34 E. Fairview Avenue Request:
Combined Preliminary/Final Plat Approval Consisting of Two
(2) Building Lots on 5.20 Acres of Land in a C-C Zoning District
Approved (Pg.15-17)
E. Public Hearing Continued from October 4, 2011: TEC 11-007
Bellingham Park Subdivision by Northside Management
Located Approximately 1/4 Mile East of S. Locust Grove Road
and 1/4 Mile North of W. Amity Road Request: Two (2) Year
Time Extension on the Preliminary Plat Approved (Pg. 17-19)
F. Public Hearing: CPAM 11-002 Millennium Retail Center by
Jeffrey,.Hall Located Generally at the Southwest Corner of W.
Overland Road and S. Millennium Way at 2045 E. Overland
Road: Request to Amend the Comprehensive Plan Future
Land Use Map Designation on 2.54 Acres of Land from High
Density Residential (HDR) to Commercial Continued to
November 15, 2011 (Pg. 19-31)
G. Public Hearing: CPAM 11-001 Southridge Apartments by The
Farran Group, LLC Located South Side of W: Overland Road
Midway Between S. Ten Mile Road and S. Linder Road
Request: Amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use
Map Designation on 26.38 Acres of Land from Medium Density
Residential (MDR) to Medium High Density Residential (MHDR)
Approved (Pg.31-40)
H. Public Hearing: RZ 11-002 Southridge Apartments by The
Farran Group, LLC Generally Located South Side of W.
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Overland Road Midway Between S. Ten Mile Road and S.
Linder Road Request: Rezone of 42.36 Acres of Land from the
TN-R and R-8 Zoning Districts to the R-15 Zoning Districts
Approved (Pg. 31-40)
9. Future Meeting Topics
Adjourned at 8:49 PM
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Meridian City Council Workshop October 18, 2011
A meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:05 p.m., Tuesday,
October 18, 2011, by President David Zaremba.
Members Present: Brad Hoaglun, David Zaremba, Keith Bird and Charlie Rountree.
Members Absent: Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Others Present: Bill Nary, Jaycee Holman, Pete Friedman, Sonya Watters, Kyle Radek,
Jeff Lavey, John Overton, Chris Amenn, Mollie Mangerich, Steve Siddoway, Robert
Simison, and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X David Zaremba X Brad Hoaglun
X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird
X Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Zaremba: Good evening, everybody, and welcome to this regular meeting of the
Meridian City Council. It is Tuesday, October 18th, 2011. It is 7:00 o'clock. We are
very happy to have you all here. First order of business will be roll call attendance.
Madam Clerk.
Item 2: Pledge of Allegiance
Zaremba: Next we will have the Pledge of Allegiance. If you will all, please, join me.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
Item 3: Community Invocation by Pastor Gordon Slyter with Treasure Valley
Worship Center
Zaremba: Thank you. Next order of business is the community invocation by Pastor
Gordon Slyter with Treasure Valley Worship Center. Here he is coming. Good. Thank
you. Would invite you all to partake in the invocation or take this as an opportunity for a
silent reflection on your own. Thank you.
Slyter: Father in Heaven, we come before you tonight. Again, Lord, we thank you for
this community and city where we live. We thank you, Lord, for the leadership that we
enjoy. Thank you for the protection provided by our police force, our firemen, our first
responders. We pray, Lord, tonight for your wisdom, that you would guide each one
that speaks, every decision that is made. Lord; would you lead to peace, civility, and
understanding and we thank you for these things in advance, giving you praise, through
Christ, our lord, we pray, amen.
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Item 4: Adoption of the Agenda
Zaremba: Thank you. Item No. 4 is the adoption of the agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: A couple things on tonight's agenda we need to make note of. Under the
Consent Agenda, Item 5, 5-L is resolution number 11-811. We have two items we need
to add to the Consent Agenda, 5-M, which is a release and settlement agreement with
TMC, Inc., and 5-N is a Memorandum of Understanding between TMC, Inc., and the
City of Meridian. Also under Item 8, Action Items, 8-C, we have a request to continue
this item to November 1st. And with that, Mr. President, I move approval of the agenda
-- the adoption of the agenda as amended.
Rountree: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 5: Consent Agenda
A. Approve Minutes of August 23, 2011 City Council Special
Meeting
B. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2011 City Council PreCouncil
Meeting
C. Approve Minutes of October 4, 2011 City Council Regular
Meeting
D. Approve Minutes of October 11, 2011 City Council Workshop
Meeting
Approval of New Liquor License Application for Wood-Wood
Inc. dba Beef O'Bradys Located at 1505 S. Eagle Rd., #190
F. Final Order for Approval: TEC 11-006 Shops at Victory by DMG
- Eagle & Victory, LLC Located at 3210 S. Eagle Road Request:
Two (2) Year Time Extension on the Preliminary Plat and
Conditional Use Permit for the Shops at Victory
G. Final Order for Approval: FP 11-008 Spurwing Grove IVo. 2 by
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SING Erighton, LLC Located at Northwest Corner of N. Jayker
way and W. Magic Spruce Drive Request: Final Plat Approval
for 10 Residential Euilding Lots and 2 Common Lots on 3.03
Acres in an R-8 Zoning District
H. Task Order 10029 for Pine Trunk Sewer Connector (Design) to
JUG Engineers for the Not-To-Exceed Amount of X68,235.00
I. Order for Floodplain Variance Request of building Addition at
975 E. Pine Street by Ada County Operations Department
J. Memorandum of Agreement for Rental of Rocky Mountain High
School Auditorium for aNot-to-Exceed Amount of $825.00.
K. Professional Services Agreement with Jeanette Light for
Instructor Services
L. Resolution No. 11-811: A Resolution of the City of Meridian
Providing for an Update of the Grievance Procedure for the
City of Meridian in Connection with Section 504 of the
Rehabilitation Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act
M. Amended onto the Agenda: Release and Settlement
Agreement with TMC, Inc.
N. Amended onto the Agenda: Memorandum of Understanding
between TMC, Inc. and the City of Meridian
Zaremba: Item 5, the Consent Agenda.
Hoaglun: Mr. President, as noted on the Consent Agenda, we have 5-L, resolution
number 11-811 and also we are adding onto the Consent Agenda, 5-M, Release and
Settlement Agreement with TMC, Inc., and 5-N, Memorandum of Understanding
between TMC, Inc., and the City of Meridian. With those three changes I move
approval of the Consent Agenda and the Mayor to sign -- or Council President in this
case and Clerk to attest.
Rountree: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk, would you call roll.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
Zaremba: All affirmative. Motion carries.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 6: Community Items/Presentations
A. Swearing In ®f New Police ®fficers
Zaremba: We are already to Item 6, Community Presentations, and our first item, 6-A,
very pleased to have swearing in of new police officers. Chief Lavey, please.
Lavey: Mr. President, Council, it's always a great opportunity to come here in front of
you and introduce new police officers. First I want to extend congratulations from Mayor
de Weerd to our new officers. She couldn't be here this evening. She wishes she could
and she felt real bad about it and wanted me to pass that along, so I told her I would. I'd
like to have Officer Heidi Lott, Justin Dance, and Kirk York come up here and if they
could stand right over here in front these -- these people. And, then, if I could have
Officer Kevin Wilson come up as well. And, then, I'll explain what we are going to do
here. On October 4th we had four officers -- actually, we had three officers that actually
started their careers with the Meridian Police Department. All three of these officers
were lateral transfers from other agencies in the state. We also have three more
conditional officers out that we are processing and they should be done with that this
week with any luck and I will be in front of you again next month introducing the final
three. I currently have no positions open in the department -- and I have probably just
jinxed myself, because it will probably only last for a couple of days, but we will
appreciate it as long as we can. We haven't been full staff for an awful long time. Kirk
York, far left over here. Kirk, raise your hand. Actually came to us from the Boise city
police department. He was assigned out at the airport. He decided he wanted to come
to the Meridian community and work out here after several years of a K-9 handler out at
the airport. So, Kirk has started his career with us here on October 4th. Heidi Lott
actually comes to us from the American Falls police department. She decided to come
from eastern Idaho to the southwestern part of the state. Justin Dance has actually
came from that area as well. He came from Bingham county. And, then, Kevin Wilson
actually has been with the Meridian Police Department for several years, but I'd like to
point out, too, that Kevin came from the Idaho State Police. And, then, Kevin this
evening is actually receiving a promotion from officer to corporal and, then, starting on
October 21st he will be assigned to the patrol division here at the police department.
So, with that being said I'd like to have all four officers raise your right hand. I -- state
your name. Do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United
States and the Constitutional laws of the state of Idaho and the laws and ordinances of
the City of Meridian. That I will abide by the Law Enforcement Code of Ethics and the
policies and procedures of the Meridian Police Department. That I will obey lawful
orders and directives of those appointed over me and that I will to the best of my ability
faithfully discharge all the duties of police officer in and for the City of Meridian, Idaho,
so help me God. Congratulations. Go ahead and have family members come forward.
We actually have -- each one of the officers have chosen a family member to pin the
badge on the officer. After we pin the badge on, any family member that has a camera
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that wants to take pictures or, Frank, if you want to take pictures as well, come forward.
Go ahead and pin the badges. There was no screaming, so we must have been
successful. Mr. President and Council, I would like to introduce to you the three new
officers and the newly promoted corporal to the Meridian Police Department. Did any
family have pictures -- that want to get pictures?
Zaremba: While they are deciding whether they want pictures or not, I would like to
welcome you all to Meridian and congratulations on joining us or being promoted. This
is a community that highly values our police and they are very respected in the
community. We are glad to have you here. Thank you.
Hoaglun: Yeah. Chief, thank you for the ceremony and thank you for joining the city
and we just echo what has been said. We value your work and we look forward to
seeing you out there and -- some of the citizens won't, but we appreciate that.
Bird: Thank you very much for joining our force. We enjoy having you.
Lavey: Thank you, Council.
~. Success Breeds Success for Idaho Green VVor{cs Expo 2012
Zaremba: Thank you. Next item on our agenda, 6-B, Success Breeds Success for
Idaho Green Works Expo 2012. Mollie.
Mangerich: Hello. Good evening, Council President and Council Members. I'm
pleased to introduce to you this evening the board member president and the executive
director of Green Works Idaho who contacted me a few weeks ago with the wished
expression to come before you tonight and tell about the expansion in their very popular
statewide Green Expo to be held this coming year and to see if Meridian wants to get
involved in it. Thank you.
Poe: Hi. Mr. President and Council, thanks for giving us the opportunity to present
tonight. I'm Bruce Poe. I'm president of Green Works Idaho that -- the organization that
runs the Idaho Green Expo. I'm also a business owner in Boise. I have an architectural
firm Modus Architecture and so I come from the business side of things. A few years
ago -- about five years ago I was involved in some efforts around Boise with -- this
building is a LEED certified building and our firm got involved in the USGVC and we are
heavily involved in, you know, green design. That led me to thinking about trying to
create an organization or an event that would allow the public to get more involved in
these types of ideas and to educate each other about it and so along with Greg Otero,
who is actually sitting back there, he is our executive director, we created a 501(c)(3),
called the Idaho Green Expo and the concept was to pull organizations together that
had similar ideas and thoughts under one umbrella and, then, run an expo for the public
for the people -- the citizens of Idaho and we didn't call it the Boise Green Expo,
because we eventually knew that we would be taking it to, hopefully, the entire state.
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The first year we started with nothing. It was totally ashoe -- we started from a shoe
string and we were able to within nine months raise enough money -- I think it was right
in the vicinity of about 175,000 dollars to -- to hire Greg as the executive director. We
also pulled on a program director and also a marketing person and we held the first
Green Expo over a two day period, a weekend in Boise, and we pulled in about 10,000
people over two days. Since then -- and this will be the fifth year this coming year, we
have had about the same attendance each year. We have held it in the downtown
location in Boise at the Boise Center on the Grove. Now, the idea behind this, again, is
to bring the citizens together and we have reached a point now where we know that we
can grow this and we had decided and approached the county about taking it to the
county fairgrounds and so that's where the location will be this coming June. I
presented it to the county commissioners and they are excited about it, and they are on
board with this. The city of Boise has also been a partner with us. We approached
them at the beginning and we didn't ask anything from them, we just said we just want
your support and we would like you to help us get citizen involvement and that's -- and
they have been involved ever since. Now that we are at the -- the fairgrounds, we are
taking it to another level. We have the United States Green Building Council, Idaho
chapter, involved in this. We also are approaching some local car dealerships and we
have gotten very positive feedback, because there is a very large number of green
electric hybrid cars coming out in the market this year and next year and the idea is that
we want to -- to combine this with a green car, electric car, hybrid car, trade show at the
same time and I believe that's going to work very much in our favor to grow this. So, we
decided that we would come over to Meridian and throw it out there in front of you and
say, look, we would like to do the same thing we did to Boise, which is invite you to the
expo. We would like to be able to say Boise city, Meridian, Kuna, Eagle and Nampa,
Caldwell, all support the expo. Now in what ways can you support that? And that is just
by letting us put the name on and also one thing that Boise city did is they volunteered
to put some of our promotional information in their utility billing. So, they would just, you
know, send it out with the utility billing and so that we could spread the word. They also
started eventually, as they got more involved in it, they had staff people volunteer their
time over the weekend and it worked out very well for -- for everyone involved. And so
what we are here to do is to give you a feel for what the expo is about and I have got
some pictures and I -- there is only about 15 or 20, but it will give you a feel as I go
through these as to what it's all about. We have about 140 booths typically every year
and the concept is, again, to support small businesses that have a green or sustainable
approach to the world and we have sold out all the booths every year. We, in fact, have
created another organization called Greenworks Idaho after the initial success of the
expo, we thought, well, we need to do this year around and so we created the
Greenworks Idaho and we -- as we are evolving it is becoming more -- kind of like a
green chamber of commerce. The small business people come to us, we try to support
them, and try to help them grow their businesses. And so the green -- the Greenworks
Idaho is now the entity that runs the expo. All right? So, if you hear those two terms,
that's what's going on. But the first image here is just one -- this just actually happens
to be Greg. Greg and his daughter. And I don't know what they are talking about, but --
here is another one where we had some kids from a local high school on the outside of
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the building out in the plaza and they are presenting some of the materials they have.
We have representation from different organizations, such as this one. We have small
businesses, the North End Organic Nursery from Boise always has a booth. And, then,
as you can see we have -- and this gives you kind of panning down the -- one of the
aisles, but, again, this is just one of 140 booths -- 140 small businesses people that
participated and, again, thousands of people come to see it. This was outside. And,
again, we have always focused on energy and trying to educate people about energy
and the different types of energy that's out there that we can harness, besides just your
traditional sources. We took -- we concentrate on homes and gardens and we had --
one of our sponsors was Exergy, which is wind power. And other small business
people. You can see the children with their parents. And Zamzow's. Kitchen Trap was
there. People on the outside having fun. Music. We have this gentleman here has
been growing his business for the last three years, has been part of the festival -- or the
expo each year and he's growing his business. Here is a little elderly lady that was
dancing to the music. We talk about water. This is an urban garden booth. And, again,
this was the entrance to the expo. We have other small businesses. Gem State Solar.
The U.S. Green Building Council. Aurora. We have a gentleman from a ranch that --
that markets natural foods. So, this gives you a very small piece of what the whole
thing is all about. But, again, we have taken a risk in taking it to the county, because we
had a very successful event in Boise. But, again, the intention at the very beginning
was not to just make it a Boise event and so this is our first presentation to another city
and we hope that you will, you know, take it into consideration. And, Greg, do you have
anything to add to that?
Zaremba: You need to be on the microphone, please. State your name if you would
also.
Otero: My name is Greg Otero. I'm the executive director of Greenworks Idaho. And,
yes, thank you for allowing us to have some of the time here tonight. Yeah. Bruce
basically said it all and just one of the things I guess I want to add is that it does give,
you know, you an opportunity to show to the public things -- any green initiative that you
have been doing or maybe have planned to do in the future. For example, again, the
way the city of Boise did it, they actually had a booth there and talked about some of
their green initiatives and -- whether it's waste or recycling and so forth. So, it does give
you an opportunity to be present there and we got people from all over the Treasure
Valley. So, we just kind of wanted to open this up to more communities and that's why
we are here and we just hope you will consider it and join us in any way. We could go
all kinds of different ways that we could partner together if you're interested, so --
Zaremba: Great. Thank you. Council, any questions or comments?
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
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Hoaglun: Just a quick question. Greenworks Idaho, how is that organized? Is that a
501(c)(3)?
Poe: They are both 501(c)(3).
Hoaglun: Okay.
Poe: They have a board of directors for business people and educators and -- a strong
board and it's a real organization with real employees and we try to -- we try to -- you
know, we try to educate the public in all these ideas and give people an opportunity to
network and to talk and to learn.
Oterio: And we have 146 I think now green business members that belong to us and
that's basically our main goal is to kind of promote these small local green businesses.
Hoaglun: Sort of like a green buy Idaho I guess.
Otero: Yeah. Exactly.
Hoaglun: Okay.
Poe: Okay. Anything else? And, again, typically, when we went before Boise city, they
were expecting us to come with our hands out and we didn't and we are not doing that
to you either. We are just presenting the concept to you and we would love to have
your involvement. It's up to you to see, you know, how far you want to take it and what
you would like to do. Thank you.
Zaremba: I appreciate the presentation and it's nice to see an idea about doing good
doing well and -- I don't know how much discussion we need. We certainly can endorse
your project, I believe. Would we need to vote on that?
Hoaglun: Mr. President, when is this conference coming --
Poe: It's in June.
Hoaglun: In June of next year. Okay. So, we'd have some time we can ask Mollie
some questions if we need any additional information, so --
Poe: And I would like to point out that we started this when the economy was starting to
go into a down turn and we have successfully run it every single year and I think that
shows you the type of interest there is out there and the message that we are putting
out on the street. So, thank you again.
Zaremba: I think that's a good idea. If you would work together with Mollie and she will
make a proposal to us and move ahead.
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Poe: All right.
Otero: I have to give you -- when we met with Boise City Council they had plastic water
bottles and I see you guys all have reusable water containers, so good job.
Item 7: Items Moved From Consent Agenda
Zaremba: Thank you. Okay. Item 7. There are no items moved from the Consent
Agenda.
Item 8: Action Items
A. FP 11-009 Zebulon Heights Subdivision No.4 by Tuscany
®evelopment Located South of E. McMillan Road and West of
M. Eagle Road Request: Final Plat Approval of 12 Single-
Family Residential Building Lots and Two (2) Common Area
Lots on 7.22 Acres
Zaremba: So, we will move onto eight. Action Items. Item A is final plat 11-009,
Zebulon Heights. We will start with the staff report.
Watters: Thank you, Councilman Zaremba, Councilmen. Just a quick correction. On
the applicant for this final plat for Zebulon Heights Subdivision No. 4, the applicant is
actually Traditions by Amyx II, LLP, not Tuscany Development. The staff report was
corrected, but the agenda was not updated. This site consists of 7.22 acres of land. It's
currently zoned R-4 and is generally located a half mile south of East McMillan Road
and a half mile west of North Eagle Road. The request is for final plat approval of the
third phase of Zebulon Heights Subdivision No. 2, consisting of 12 single family
residential building lots and two common area lots on 7.22 acres. The plat includes a
3.44 acre common area that serves as a central common area for Zebulon Heights
Subdivision and it's proposed to accommodate a swimming pool, pond, multi-use
pathway and tot lot. Written testimony was received on this application from Becky
McKay, the applicant's representative, in response to the staff report. She had cited
three different items that I'm going to address one by one. In regard to site specific
condition number 4-B and E, the applicant requests number 4-B is revised to read: The
City of Meridian is responsible for the maintenance of the pathway surface located
within the multi-use pathway easement -- and just add the following text: At such time
that the pathway connects from one major street to another and is greater than one half
mile long. Until such time the homeowners association shall be responsible for
maintenance. And that number 4-E be stricken. Staff is in agreement with the
applicant's request and recommends approval of this change. In regard to site specific
condition number ten, the applicant states that a pond is now proposed as a water
amenity in place of the storm water retention facility originally proposed on Lot 1, Block
12. Staff recommends condition number ten regarding requirements for storm water
facilities be replaced with the following: The proposed pond shall have recirculated
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water and be maintained such that it does not become a mosquito breeding ground in
accord with UDC 11-3B-9C6. In regard to general requirement number three that
requires a letter of credit or cashier surety to be submitted for all uncompleted amenities
prior to signature on the final plat, the applicant requests to not be required to submit
surety for the swimming pool with the restroom, locker, and changing areas. In accord
with UDC 11-5C, in the event that improvements not needed to protect the public
health, safety, and life, including site amenities, cannot be completed prior to signature
on the final plat by the city engineer, a surety agreement may be approved. Just to note
that typically amenities such as this are constructed with the first phase of development
for the enjoyment of the residents. This is the third phrase of development. One
hundred and seventy-five building lots were approved with the preliminary plat. Ninety-
six lots have been platted and 79 building lots remain to be platted after this phase.
Surety similar to this have been required in the past in accord with the Unified
Development Code. Staff is recommending approval of the final plat with the
aforementioned changes to the conditions of approval. Staff will stand for any questions
the Council may have.
Zaremba: Council, any questions?
Bird: Not at this time.
Zaremba: Okay. This is not a public hearing, but would the applicant like to make any
comments? As usual, please, state your name and address for the record.
McKay: Becky McKay with Engineering Solutions, 1029 North Rosario, Meridian.
Business address. Thank you, Mr. President, Members of Council. I'm here on behalf
of Todd Amyx this evening. He could not attend the meeting. He wanted me to chat
about the condition of bonding for the clubhouse and pool. It's been a rarity that we
have had to bond for a clubhouse and pool facility. We bond for pressurized irrigation,
fencing, playground equipment, benches, multi-use pathways and, then, any essential
public facilities. I know Anna's gone, but -- and this always comes when people leave.
Her and I did have a conversation years ago, just in general, not on this particular
project, and she said, you know, I have never required that you bond for a clubhouse,
changing rooms, or a pool, because it's at the discretion of the developer as far as what
these amenities consist of and I realize that would tie up a lot of money and so it has
been -- I have never had a municipality require that I bond for it. I had asked staff to
provide me a couple of examples. They indicated Messina Hills and Crossfield. But my
records showed on Crossfield that we didn't bond for it. So, I'm not sure if that was
accurate or not. Mr. Amyx is willing to bond for everything. His primary concern is tying
up those dollars. These facilities -- you know, they are estimated to cost around
200,000, 110 percent of that is 220,000. He -- the whole reason we are bringing this
phase on -- it's just a small phase, I think there is like 13 -- or 12 lots -- 13 with this one
-- is in order to build this facility. He plans on pulling a permit this spring, as soon as the
weather permits and, obviously, when we can get in there and obtain a building permit
for that particular amenity lot. I guess we asked the Council to -- to kind of consider,
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you know, the times that we have. Mr. Amyx said, you know, I'm -- I'm in my fourth
phase of this project, it was approved back in '05 and, you know, I have followed the
rules through every phase and I just ask that -- that you not make me bond for that and
tie those monies up. He said he would be willing to bond for a percentage of it if the
Council was more comfortable with that, but he -- he just thinks that that is excessive.
Do you have any questions? Other than that we are in agreement.
Zaremba: Council, any questions? Comments?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Just to clarify, Becky. It's the pool and the clubhouse?
McKay: Yeah. It's a pool and changing room facility. Yes, sir.
Rountree: Okay.
McKay: Yes, sir. That is it. Everything else will be bonded for.
Rountree: And a question for you or staff. At some point in time, at the discretion of the
developer, they choose not to move forward with the pool and the changing room,
they're still in compliance with the amenities and open space requirements of the UDC?
Watters: Councilman Rountree, Councilmen, they were required to build the swimming
pool and the changing area and, actually, a restroom facility as part of their preliminary
plan. So, they had shown that, therefore, it -- it is a requirement that they construct
those improvements.
Rountree: So, my question was was it a requirement or was it something the developer
had in mind when he brought the development forward, as opposed to say a playground
or some other kind of a park amenity?
Watters: If I'm hearing you right, the swimming pool and the restroom facility was what
the developer proposed originally. Therefore, it was shown and it is a requirement.
Rountree: Okay.
McKay: Mr. President, Councilman Rountree, if I could answer that, we do have over
ten percent qualified open space in the project. We are just a little bit under 11. We
have also amulti-use pathway that's an amenity. We have playground equipment that's
being installed with this phase and we have detached walks with the eight foot
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landscaped strip throughout all of the local streets, with the exception of one small cul-
de-sac. So, you know, we kind of went above and beyond. We have low density. My
average lot size in this phase is 11,300 square feet. So, you know, these are bigger lots
and I -- we have more than enough amenities, I think, based on what the requirements
were at the time this project was approved.
Hoaglun: Mr. President and Mr. Becky, I guess -- so, this is what he's proposed, this is
what he's selling lots based on this plan, this vision --
McKay: Yes, sir.
Hoaglun: -- so if the swimming pool, clubhouse, isn't built, then, he's got to answer to
the residents --
McKay: Absolutely. I think his liability would be very high here, because, yes, that -- he
has promised them that it will be built the spring of this coming year, no exception.
Hoaglun: And, Mr. President, just -- to make sure on that other condition for the -- the
pond, you're okay with it requiring for circulation and all that?
McKay: Absolutely. Yes, sir.
Hoaglun: All right. Thank you.
Zaremba: On the pond I would ask is it still going to function for the storm water
retention -- what are you doing about that otherwise, because that's still required I would
assume.
McKay: Mr. President, in this -- in this subdivision all of our storm drainage is
subsurface seepage beds. So, the pond is solely as a water amenity and we are only
allowed to take our 24 hour water right from Settlers Irrigation District, so their
recommendation, due to the size of this project, that we store water and pump from a
pond versus out of the lateral and so it was based on their recommendation that we
incorporated. It has no storm drainage function whatsoever and it always has water in
it. We have bentonited, so that it looks good and holds water.
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you.
McKay: Thank you.
Zaremba: Further questions or comments? Anything further from Sonya?
Watters: No.
Zaremba: Okay.
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Rountree: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I would move that we
subject to the change in conditions
bond or surety for the pool and
changes.
Bird: Second.
approve the final plat for Zebulon Heights No. 4,
as stated by staff, with the exception of requiring a
changing rooms, that that not be included in the
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
Zaremba: All ayes. The motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
13. Public Hearing: TC 11-008 Woodland Springs by Woodland
Springs, LLC Generally Located on the Northeast Corner of N.
Locust Grove Road and E. McMillan Road Request: Two (2)
Year Time Extension on the Preliminary Plat for Woodland
Springs Subdivision to Obtain the City Engineer's Signature
on the Phase 2 Final Plat
Zaremba: We are onto Item 8-B. This is a public hearing. I will open the public hearing
for TEC 11-008 for Woodland Springs and, again, begin with the staff report.
Watters: Thank you, Councilman Zaremba, Councilmen. The next application is a time
extension for the preliminary plat for Woodland Springs Subdivision. This site consists
of 3.03 acres of land. It's currently zoned C-N and is located on the east side of North
Locust Grove Road, north of McMillan Road. Their request is for a two year time
extension on the preliminary plat for Woodland Springs Subdivision in order to obtain
the city engineer's signature on the final plat for the second phase of development. The
first phase final plat has been recorded. This is the second time extension requested
for this project. Approval of the extension will allow the applicant to proceed with the
platting process for the second and final phase of development. There is a
development agreement in effect for this site that requires compliance with building
elevations, a concept plan, site amenities in compliance with all City of Meridian
ordinances in effect at the time of development. Since the preliminary plat was
approved the city has adopted guidelines for design review of structures and general
site layout. Staff recommends as a condition of approval of the subject time extension
that future development comply with these guidelines and standards. Written testimony
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was received from Matt Morgan, the applicant's representative, in agreement with the
staff report. Staff is recommending approval of the time extension to expire on
September 9th, 2013. Staff will stand for any questions Council may have.
Zaremba: Council, any questions?
Rountree: I have none.
Zaremba: Okay. This is a public hearing. Is the applicant here to -- care to make any
comments? I guess that's a no.
Hoaglun: He's here, but no comment.
Zaremba: Yeah. Here, but no comment. Thank you. I will repeat that to get it on the
record. And this is a public hearing. I don't have anybody signed up to speak, but this
is your opportunity if you wish to speak in favor or against or make a comment on this
one application. Seeing none, Council?
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move that we close the public hearing on TEC 11-008.
Rountree: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second
Motion carries.
All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move approval of the TEC 11-008, Woodland Springs by Woodland Springs,
LLC.
Bird: Second.
Zaremba: I have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
Zaremba: All ayes. That motion carries. Thank you very much.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
C. Public Hearing: RZ 11-003 Fingsbridge by HH Kingsbridge,
LLC Generally Located East Side of S. Eagle Road; Midway
Between E. Victory Road and E. Amity Road Request: Rezone
of 38.31 Acres of Land from the R-2 Zoning ®istrict to the R-4
Zoning ®istrict
Zaremba: We will move onto Item 8-C. This is another public hearing, RZ 11-003 on
Kingsbridge. And we will begin again with the staff report.
Rountree: It's been requested to --
Watters: Kingsbridge is requested to continue until November 1st.
Zaremba: Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. So, it is open, but it has been requested to continue
and I would entertain a motion to move it to November 1st.
Bird: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we continue public hearing for RZ 11-003 -- or 003 until November 1st,
2011.
Hoaglun: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That
motion carries. It is moved to November 1st, 2011. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
®. Public Hearing: PFP 11-002 VanAuken Subdivision by Mason ~
Stanfield Inc. Located at 34 E. Fairview Avenue Request:
Combined Preliminary/Final Plat Approval Consisting of Two
(2) building Lots on 5.20 Acres of Land in a C-C Zoning ®istrict
Zaremba: Item 8-D, public hearing PFP 11-002, Van Auker -- Van Auken Subdivision
by Mason and Stanfield. And go ahead, Sonya.
Watters: Thank you, President Zaremba, Councilmen. The next application is a
preliminary/final plat for Van Auken Subdivision. The site consists of 5.2 acres of land.
It's currently zoned C-C and is located at 34 East Fairview Avenue on the northeast
corner of Fairview Avenue and Meridian Road. The request is for a combined
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preliminary and final plat consisting of two building lots on 5.2 acres. The proposed plat
will subdivide one parcel into two parcels which each of the existing structures and
associated parking will be located. No new access points are proposed or approved
with this application. Staff recommends cross-access, ingress-egress, and cross-
parking easements be provided internally between the proposed lots and externally to
the Albertson's property and the property to the east as applicable. The existing parking
lot and street buffer landscaping does not meet current UDC requirements. However,
it's considered a nonconforming use, as it lawfully existed prior to the effective date of
the UDC. As such the nonconforming use may continue as long as the use remains
lawful and is not expanded or extended. In addition -- if an addition is proposed in the
future to any of the existing structures, the guidelines for conformance to landscaping
standards listed in UDC 11-3B-2D and the requirements listed in UDC 11-1 B4 for the
extension of nonconforming uses are applicable. The Commission recommended
approval of the preliminary/final plat at their September 15th public hearing. Scott
Stanfield testified in favor of the application. No one opposed or commented on the
application. Written testimony was received from Scott Stanfield, the applicant's
representative, in agreement with the staff report. There were no issues of discussion
by the Commission or changes to the staff recommendation and no written testimony
has been received since the Commission hearing. And there are no outstanding issues
for City Council. Staff will stand for any questions Council may have.
Zaremba: Thank you. Council, any questions?
Rountree: None.
Bird: I have none.
Zaremba: In that case, the applicant. And if you would begin by stating your name and
address, please.
Stanfield: Yes, Mr. President. Scott Stanfield, with Mason Stanfield Engineering and
Surveying, 826 3rd Street South in Nampa. And I will make this as short as I can.
Basically, pretty much straight forward request and thank you, Sonya, for all your help in
this application over the weeks that we have been waiting to get to this point. But,
basically, if you're aware -- I don't know if you're aware or not, but the Holly Plaza lost a
long time tenant on that corner, they took advantage of the building climate and elected
to build their own building elsewhere and that left the Holly Plaza, LLC, with an empty
building. They have tried to lease it, but had no takers. Instead, they have had some
various parties interested in purchasing it. So, he thought, well, go ahead and create
the lot and throw it on the market and see if he could sell it. So, that's the simple
straight forward facts and we are in agreement with the staff report and stand with any
questions that you may have.
Zaremba: Council, any questions?
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Rountree: I have none.
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: You answered my questions.
Zaremba: Thank you.
Stanfield: Thanks.
Zaremba: Scott was the only one who signed up to testify. Is there anybody else? This
would be your opportunity to come forward and express your opinion. Seeing nobody
moving, Council?
Bird: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we close the public hearing on PFP 11-002.
Rountree: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Mr. President, I move that we approve PFP 11-002 and to include staff and
applicant comments.
Rountree: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
Zaremba: All ayes. Motion carries. Thank you very much.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
E. Public Hearing Continued from ®ctober 4, 2011: TEC 11-007
Bellingham Par4c Subdivision by Northside Management
Located Approximately 1/4 Mile East of S. Locust Grove Road
and 1/4 Mile North of W. Amity Road Request: Two (2) Year
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Time Extension on the Preliminary Plat
Zaremba: Onto 8-E. This is a public hearing continued from October 4th, TEC 11-007
for Bellingham Park Subdivision. And staff report.
Watters: Thank you, President Zaremba, Councilmen. The next application before you
is a time extension request on the preliminary plat for Bellingham Park Subdivision. The
site consists of 11.85 acres of land. It is currently zoned R-8 and is located
approximately a quarter mile east of South Locust Grove Road and a half mile north of
East Amity Road. The request is for a two year time extension on the preliminary plat
for Bellingham Park Subdivision in order to obtain the city engineer's signature on the
final plat for the fourth and final phase of development. This is the second time
extension requested for this project. Approval of the extension will allow the applicant
time to update and reroute the construction documents to the appropriate agencies for
approval. A planned development was approved for this subdivision that required
compliance with the building elevations shown. The project meets all of the established
criteria, dimensional standards, open space, pathways, et cetera, in the UDC for
granting a time extension. Written testimony has been received from John Wardle, the
applicant's representative, in agreement with the staff report. Staff is recommending
approval of the subject time extension to expire on July 3rd, 2013. Staff will stand for
any questions Council may have.
Zaremba: Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Zaremba: No questions on this one. Is the applicant here? Thank you. Please begin
with your name and address.
Wardle: Yes. My name is John Wardle. My address is 1627 South Orchard Drive in
Boise, Idaho. I'm with Conger Management Group on behalf of the ownership LLC. We
do agree with the staff report and request your approval tonight.
Zaremba: Great. Any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: I have none. Thank you.
Zaremba: Thank you. Again, this is a public hearing. I don't have anybody besides
John signed up, but this is your opportunity to come forward. Seeing none, gentlemen?
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
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Hoaglun: I move we close the public hearing on TEC 11-007.
Bird: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? That
motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I move approval of the TEC 11-007, Bellingham Park Subdivision.
Bird: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
Zaremba: All ayes. Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
F. Public Wearing: CPAII~ 11-002 Millennium Retail Center by
Jeffrey Wall Located Generally at the Southwest Corner of W.
Overland Road and S. Millennium Way at 2045 E. Overland
Road: Request to Amend the Comprehensive Plan Future
Land Use Map ®esignation on 2.54 Acres of Land from Wigh
®ensity Residential (W®R) to Commercial
Zaremba: We are onto 8-F. This is, again, a public hearing and this is CPAM 11-002
for Millennium Retail Center.
Waiters: Thank you, President Zaremba, Councilmen. The next application before you
is a Comprehensive Plan map amendment for Millennium Retail Center. This site
consists of 2.54 acres of land. Is currently zoned L-O, Limited Office, and is located at
9977 and 2045 East Overland Road on the southwest corner of East Overland Road
and South Millennium Way. A little history on this project. In 2000 the property was
rezoned to L-O and platted. A Conditional Use Permit planned development was also
approved that allows for retail uses to develop on the lot on the corner of Overland and
Millennium. A conceptual development plan was approved with planned development
that depicts a 22,237 square foot retail building on the corner lot and a 15,960 square
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foot office building on the lot to the west. An office for Corey Barton Homes was
constructed on the western lot, but the corner lot remains vacant. The request is for an
amendment to the future land use map contained in the Comprehensive Plan to change
the land use designation on two parcels of land totaling 2.54 acres from high density
residential to commercial. The applicant requests a subject map amendment in order to
develop the property on the corner with adrive-thru restaurant and a small retail strip
behind consistent with the proposed commercial land use designation. The office that
exists on the western property will remain. A development plan was not submitted with
this application, nor was a rezone application. If the site develops as proposed, a
modification to the development plan approved with the planned development is
required, along with a rezone and Conditional Use Permit for adrive-thru establishment.
Because the property on the corner is already approved through the planned
development to develop with retail uses, which are not typically allowed in the L-O
district, the map change to commercial, along with a subsequent rezone of the site to a
commercial zoning district would remedy the nonconformance of the zoning in relation
to approved uses. However, a rezone to a commercial designation would also open the
site up to other commercial uses and hours of operation that were not contemplated in
the planned development that may not be compatible with adjacent residential uses. If
the applicant wishes to develop this site with retail uses, as opposed with the planned
development in accord with the concept plan, he could proceed with a certificate of
zoning compliance and design review application without further approvals. Business
hours of operation would be restricted per the L-O district of 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m.,
harmonious with the adjacent residential use as required by the planned development.
The Commission recommended denial at the September 15th public hearing. Jeffrey
Hall testified in favor of the application. Jared Heiner and David Meisner testified in
opposition. No one commented. Written testimony was received from Jim Jewett. Key
issues of discussion by the Commission was the appropriateness of a commercial land
use designation and subsequent commercial zoning adjacent to existing multi-family
residential uses. Preference for the rezone to be submitted with the map amendment
request, so that the whole package could be reviewed at the same time. Key
Commission changes to the staff recommendations. The Commission voted to
recommend denial of the map amendment request as presented during the hearing. No
written testimony has been received since the Commission hearing on this application.
There are no outstanding issues for Council. Staff will stand for any questions Council
may have.
Zaremba: Thank you. Council, any questions at this point?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Not right now.
Zaremba: Not right now. Okay. Thank you. And would the applicant care to
comment? Good evening. Please state your name and address for the record.
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Jewett: Mr. President, Members of the Council, my name is Jim Jewett. My address is
2440 South Eagle Road, Meridian, Idaho. We are in front of you tonight with this
application, because it started with a request from Jeffrey Hall as to relocate or -- a
restaurant in that vicinity and looking at this piece it had amulti -- high density multi-
family designation on its comp plan, an L-O on its zone and a PD that allowed for retail
uses, all conflicting themselves. So, it's hard for us to look at marketing to anybody or
even being able to offer to even go to the next step of a conditional use application or
rezone application without some sense of really how should this property develop
outside of its original PD back in 2000 of just straight retail. So, we met with staff and
decided we would go down the path of a comp plan amendment to see where the city
wanted to be with this property. It sits on Overload Road on the corner of Millennium
Drive, which accesses the high school and L-O, the high residential and some other
businesses to our -- to our east. At the neighborhood meeting we had no objection to it.
At the Planning and Zoning there was a couple members of the apartments, whether it
be owners or members of HOA, that objected to the restaurant uses, because of the
potential odor or smell from the restaurant that would -- would come over the multi-
family apartments. We recognize a responsibility to buffer the residential uses with any
type of commercial, whether it be special office, retail, or food related. But for us to
bring forward an application that would have a CU with adrive-thru or a rezone, we
have to have some cohesion in what the comp plan is. Right now it's high density
residential with an L-O zone. So, we are looking for guidance from the Council on how
they would like us to proceed. Because, clearly, high density residential in an L-O zone
and a PUD for a retail just don't mix. So, I'll stand for questions as to how you would
like me to proceed or any general questions about what we would like to do.
Zaremba: Gentlemen, questions or comments at this point?
Rountree: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: Jim, we have a problem. What kind of suggestions do you have in terms of
-- you indicated the need to buffer between the high density residential and whatever
commercial use that might be there. Do you have a recommendation of what might not
be an applicable use in that site given the things you know about what is allowable in
the commercial zone?
Jewett: Clearly -- bar. A restaurant that would directly butt up to the apartments would
-- is not something that I would propose or I would think would be acceptable. Having a
fast food establishment on the corner with a commercial strip between that and the
apartments -- there can be some level of buffering between that -- those uses. So, you
go from more intense to less intense as it gets right up against the -- but certainly
nothing that's going to stay up past 10:00 o'clock that's adjacent. But on the corner
when you have another building between those uses -- something like that should be
allowed to stay open later than 10:00 p.m. and the fast food or coffee shop -- even a
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bank with adrive-thru -- I mean that's not even allowed on what we have right now and
we think that's an appropriate -- that certainly wouldn't stay open past 6:00 or 7:00
o'clock at the latest. Certainly the whole gamut of commercial under C-C against the
residential probably is not something that I would think would be acceptable, but some
level between the two.
Rountree: You sat with staff and -- and worked through that at this point?
Jewett: Well, we worked with staff initially and, again, this is a comp plan amendment,
so we simply can have the next foot hold. I think staff was making some
recommendations at P&Z of how that zoning would be if a rezone -- if the commercial
designation was approved there had to have been some restrictions with the rezone to
allow for that buffering and we are certainly amenable to have that discussion and work
it out, but that's probably the rezone and the CUP part of it. We have to figure out, first,
if it's even acceptable to even have commercial. Just for another point of clarification,
this PUD that was approved in 2000 encompassed the apartment site, this site, Corey
Barton's office and the Fast Eddy's and the LDS church. So, there has been numerous
CUs that have come in amending it down the road.
Zaremba: I don't know if it helps, but in that time frame some of the current confusion
would have been caused by a procedure at that time that we did an underlying zone
and, then, allowed ten percent use exceptions or something, which we no longer do.
We identify each zone the way it should be. But this sounds like it may be -- I thought
we had found all of those, but this maybe one of the hold over's from that.
Jewett: Hopefully it's the last. We all recognize the PD then versus now really doesn't
fit. But it's a highly visible, highly desirable corner and the reason it's sitting there empty
I think is this very reason, is that hasn't been addressed on the comp plan. So, when
you have a potential buyer in town looking at potential corners for these type of uses,
they overlook that corner, because they look at the comp plan first and the comp plan
says high density residential. So, a lot of your commercial brokers go right on past it.
Jeffrey Hall in his pursuit of trying to find a good corner for his client dug a little deeper.
So, that's why we are here.
Zaremba: Great. Any further questions at this point?
Bird: I have none.
Zaremba: All right. Thank you. We do have a couple people signed up to testify and
we run similar to the way the Planning and Zoning Commission does. You have the
opportunity to testify up to three minutes and, then, the applicant has the opportunity to
come back and respond and, then, we will discuss. So, the people I have signed up are
Jared Heiner.
Heiner: I'm Jared Heiner.
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Zaremba: Thank you. If you would state your name and address, please.
Heiner: Jared Heiner. 1333 East Doberman Street, Meridian, Idaho. I just live in
Locust Grove, kind of -- I mean on the other side of Locust Grove. I actually own two of
the four-plexes here in Sage Crest. One is building 38 that immediately abuts the
property in question. Another one is building 11 that is close to where they are putting
the Fast Eddy's. I'm concerned that the quality of life for the tenants will suffer by
putting in a fast food restaurant there, not just odor, but also the high traffic volume.
The only access into the property is on Millennium Way, which is already an
overcrowded street that goes into the high school. In the morning's and the evening's
rush hour the traffic -- traffic density is intense. On the north side of the street those
retail establishments where Rudy's Bar is, the parking there is so overwhelmed it spills
over and they have had to build extra parking lots. A bar or restaurant or something
that goes in there that's going to have people parking in the apartments and have a high
volume of traffic there is going to be very undesirable. The people that live in the
apartments, many of them work the graveyard shift at the call centers that are nearby,
like T-Mobile, so there is some people who are sleeping in the day. Even a high density
-- or a high volume fast food restaurant that has -- packs of Harley Davidson
motorcycles rumbling through there all day that really affects the quality of life for those
people. You can already -- the Dutch Brothers that's across the street, you can already
smell that at the back of the apartment complex. Maybe that's not too offensive for
some, maybe it is for some, but to put a Taco Bell or a restaurant or a grill that has
greasy smoke pumping out of it right cross the fence next to these two story four-plexes,
would be very undesirable for the tenants and also for the property owners, many of
who have already lost their investments. I bought my two buildings out of foreclosure
from other investors that lost -- lost their investments there. So, I think if you look at the
corner of Locust Grove and Overland across from the Maverick, there used to be an
abandoned home there, now it's a nice, attractive, assisted living facility. There is
something like that could be put on that corner that would mesh in with the other low
traffic volume professional offices that line Millennium Way there and could also
potentially be profitable for the developer. I agree that if I owned that land I would
probably want to put a fast food place in there, but it would put a lot of pressure on the
traffic going down Millennium Way to the high school and it would be very undesirable
for the people who live in those apartments who deserve a better quality of life than that.
So, that's why I'm hoping that you will follow the Planning Commission's
recommendation. Thanks.
Zaremba: Thank you. Any questions?
Hoaglun: Yeah. Jared? Jared?
Heiner: Oh. I'm sorry.
Hoaglun: Yeah.
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Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Mr. President and Jared. I just wanted to ask you, then -- you touched on
one, assisted living, but what other types of establishments, businesses, do you find
that would work at that site?
Heiner: So, you know, a building like the Corey Barton Home -- home office that's
already on that piece of property or kind of along the west side of Millennium Way there
you have got real estate professional offices, dental offices where it's kind of retail
service oriented, but it's not a high volume of, you know, 30 cars going in there an hour,
it's maybe four cars going in there an hour or five cars -- or the assisted living center
that's on the Locust Grove and Overland that really doesn't, you know, have much traffic
at all, but it is a valuable piece of property generating revenue and is full of residents.
Hoaglun: And if I might follow up, Jared. A bank, a credit union, I mean that would
have some drive-thru traffic, but the hours are limited, what's your thoughts on
something like that?
Heiner: I think that would be more compatible for the high density residential there,
because, you know, you still have a retail establishment, it's got great access on
Overland Road, but it wouldn't have such a high volume of traffic that it would cause
traffic snarls or make it hard for -- you know, that's one of the exits for the apartment
complex there is on Millennium Way. In the morning with all the high school traffic
coming in and out you can't even get out. So, you have to -- they can't get out from the
north and turn left, because there is a constant line of cars sitting along there. If you
look at the banks that are already along there, like Bank of the West, Key Bank,
Sterling, they have got great access, they have got empty parking spots, they have got
nice flow for their customers going through there. You look at the bars, like Rudy's,
Harry's, the same thing on Harry's, that over -- that business gets so much business it
overwhelms the whole parking for all the other tenants. You look down at the curb on
Meridian Road and look at where those people are parking, they are parking at the Jiffy
Lube, they are parking at Sage Crest CPA. You know, other buildings who -- you know,
my neighbor who is the Sage Crest CPA guy says, you know, I should charge bar
parking fees. People leave their cars there overnight to take a cab home and come
back and get it the next day, you know, so --
Hoaglun: Okay. Great. Thank you.
Heiner: Did that answer your question?
Hoaglun: No. That's good. Thank you.
Zaremba: Thank you.
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Heiner: Any other questions?
Rountree: No.
Zaremba: No. David Meisner. And, again, if you would state your name and address
for the record, please.
Meisner: Yes. My name is David Meisner. My address is 2978 South Bay Star Way,
Meridian, Idaho. I'm also one of the owners in the Sage Crest community. So, I'm here
to represent the homeowners association for the Sage Crest community. So, the Sage
Crest property owners association is located adjacent to the rezoning applicant's
proposed property. We are a residential community of approximately 200 plus
residents. The association has an obligation to protect the quality of life for the
community, homogenizing the residential side and the business side of the area. Each
owner, which there are approximately 50 plus owners, purchased these properties with
the understanding that the surrounding businesses of Sage Crest would become office
with similar businesses to those ones located to the east side of the complex. These
businesses are real estate offices, day cares, doctor offices, professional types of
businesses. We are opposed to the proposed rezoning change of the subject property.
We believe what is proposed, adrive-in or fast food establishment, or whatever else
that might be high traffic, would be detrimental to the area based on increased traffic.
Access would be off the side street and not Overland, therefore, increasing the traffic
load of the side street. The high school is located on the side street, along with
professional offices and the apartments, creating traffic issues currently. The smell of
fast food is not compatible with the area. If you have ever lived by a fast food restaurant
the smell starts early in the morning and remains late into the night. Not a desirable
condition for the residents of the area. In addition, the high school students would be
walking on a street with no sidewalk, thereby either cutting through apartments or
walking on the street or even trudging through the pathways of the landscape of the
professional businesses there. There is similar businesses to the proposed on the north
side of Overland. Would this be a better location? Thereby keeping similar type of
businesses together? The owners and residents of Sage Crest respectfully request the
zoning remain unchanged and a professional type of building or office be located next to
the residential community of Sage Crest. Thank you.
Zaremba: Any questions? Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Yeah. Real quick. You used the term fast food and I just want to make sure
we are on the same -- you know, when I think fast food you think Jack in the Box and
McDonald's, something like that. And, then, there are restaurants like Applebee's,
Gino's, et cetera. Any type of food establishment? Is that what you're -- when you say
fast food is that what you mean?
Meisner: Any -- I mean we are up against a high residential area. I mean this is zoned
as office type use or retail use. So, we bought this property thinking that's what we are
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getting into. A fast food type of establishment or restaurant establishment is not that
type of establishment that we bought the property thinking what would go there.
Hoaglun: Okay. I just wanted to make sure.
Meisner: During the Planning and Zoning Commission he brought up that he would
want 24/7 operation, so -- Jeffrey Hall did. So --and he wanted to serve the people who
go to the football game after the football game, after 10:00 p.m. at night, so --
Hoaglun: Okay. Great. I just wanted to be certain we were thinking the same way.
Okay.
Meisner: Okay.
Hoaglun: Thank you, Dave.
Zaremba: All right. Thank you. Those are the only people that signed up. If there is
anybody else that would care to make comment? We'll start with this gentleman first.
And as usual, if you would state your name and address for the record, please.
Hall: Good evening, Mr. President, Council Members. My name is Jeffrey Hall with DK
Commercial. My address is 1880 South Cobalt Point Way in Meridian. That's in the
Silverstone Business Park. Between the EI Dorado and Silverstone Business Parks we
have approximately over, actually, 90,000 square feet of available office space.
Unfortunately, in that area retail space is very limited. What we are looking for as far as
retail services right now, as far as my clients are concerned, is a financial, food service,
personal care -- again, when we talk about food services, you brought up a great
comment. I mean it could be as a deli. I -- unfortunately, my recollection doesn't tell me
that I remember saying anything about an operation of 24/7 going on at that location. I
did say something about services available to the high school after the games. That
would be great. A lot of the -- especially the retailers that are involved in fast food
definitely like that. I was very happy to hear that one of the gentlemen there had
mentioned that, you know, a bank would be okay, a credit union. That's something that
we definitely need. Those are great services that we can use. Also personal care is
something that -- you know, that's a whole spectrum of different types of things that
personal care can go in there. You know, I'm pretty known for a couple different
commercial projects. The one, of course, is Hark's Corner that I developed on Franklin
and Linder. That corner also abuts residential uses. As you know, we have got a
Chevron, an Arctic Circle, car wash, three different retail buildings. Never had a
complaint from the neighbors. It serves the neighbors very well. We call it the cheers.
Obviously, you know, we built that in 2002 and -- you know, our shoppers there are our
neighbors and it really worked out well for them. There is other -- you know -- as a
matter of fact, the new Walmart on Stoddard there and Overland, that's going to be
abutting the Bear Creek Subdivision. It's actually going to have adrive-thru abutting the
Bear Creek Subdivision for their pharmacy I believe. You know, those are other things
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that, you know, I think our uses are much more -- how would you say -- nicer. So, by
allowing retail to the site I believe that we are going to reduce traffic congestion going
onto Overland from Millennium, especially at lunchtime for the kids. If there is other
services, like any type of food up there, that would be great for them. We will be
accessed off of this site both off of Overland and Millennium, not just Millennium. But I
think a comment was made that that would be the only access, but I believe that there is
across-access agreement with Corey Barton and there is an ingress-egress there. So,
that would be fine. And, finally, you know, I just ask that you approve this designation
for HDR to commercial. It's needed in that area. That area is the -- one of the --
besides Ten Mile -McMillan right now, that area is the hottest area in the valley and we
would sure appreciate whatever you can do and I stand for your questions.
Zaremba: Any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Zaremba: Not at this time. All right. Thank you.
Hall: Thank you.
Zaremba: And would you also start with your name and address, please.
Gertner: My name is Tara Gertner. Address is 753 West Tallulah in Kuna. I am the
apartment manager. I just wanted to stress two points. One of them is the parking.
The complex does have open parking. There is no reserve parking for the tenants,
therefore, leaving them open for anybody else to park there. I can't prove who has
parked there if there is no reserve parking. So, there really is not a lot of room in that
area. I don't know if you have ever been there. I honestly don't see how they are going
to put a strip between a fast food restaurant and the complex. It doesn't seem like there
would be enough room there. I just think overflow parking would come into the
complex, therefore, leaving the tenants with nowhere to park. The other thing I'd like to
stress is the high school students, if there is a restaurant there I believe they have open
campus. They will be coming through the complex, walking through the grass, throwing
trash everywhere -- you know, we already have a big enough problem with them as it is
without a fast food restaurant right there. I just think that would increase that problem.
So, that was it.
Zaremba: Any questions?
Hoaglun: Yeah. Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: Same question I asked earlier. What do you see that would work at that site
in terms of like banks and I'm -- it sounds like offices, service industry --
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Gartner: Yeah. There is a business complex that runs down the side and they do really
good. We haven't had any problems with them. Like he was stating, there is a dentist
office in there, other than that I really don't know. I mean a bank would work there, but
there is quite a few banks down Overland, so I'm sure which bank would go there,
but --
Hoaglun: They are like car dealers sometimes, you know. They all like to cluster
together.
Gartner: Yeah.
Hoaglun: Okay. That -- appreciate that, Tara. Thank you.
Gartner: Thank you.
Zaremba: Thank you. All right. Any further comments from staff? Want to reserve
them? All right.
Friedman: Yes, Mr. President, Council, I will reserve them, unless you have some
questions. I'm still trying to process a couple of thoughts I have had, but you do have a
recommendation from Planning and Zoning Commission before you. If you have some
questions I can address it. Just a couple of things popped up while I was listening to
some of the testimony, particularly related to sort the inconsistency between the comp
plan designations of zoning and, then, the planned development that kind of muddies
everything in terms of the restriction on the uses there. You know, we do have L-O
zoning there. It's possible if you look at the use list for the L-O district that you can
achieve a number of the uses that you have heard suggested with the straight L-O
zoning or under straight L-O zoning. It is restricted by that planned development, so
there may be an opportunity to amend that planned development -- to modify the CU,
actually, structure that to where you can expand the range of uses, although I do note
that a restaurant is a permitted use in the L-O zone, but the drive-thru establishment is
prohibited. So, just kind of a thought I'm still trying to process on how we might be able
to at least correct that situation on the map. A restaurant -- yeah, that's right. Sonya
pointed out a restaurant is a conditional use regardless. But if we are going to modify it
we could structure that conditional use modification to tailor to the specific uses. It's
kind of unusual, because we would do that normally through a development agreement,
but I don't know where you're going with this, but that was just kind of a thought that
floated through here.
Zaremba: I appreciate that. Are we ready for Mr. Jewett to summarize?
Jewett: Thank you. Mr. President, Members of the Council. I did want to clarify -- first
of all, I do appreciate the comments by the neighbors and I do want to clarify the one
that we do have two access points, one off of Millennium and one off of Overland Road.
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You know, I'd like to point out that, you know, people who live in apartment houses are
all citizens and they all use the services that we provide. I have completely relocated
my office and my home south of the freeway. That's where I prefer to live. And I have
to commute, for the most part, across the freeway to find just about anything, other than
Jack in the Box now or Taco Bell, but all my other banks and everything else I do is on
the other side of the freeway. You know, the Applebee's that I like to go to or the -- you
know. And as you look at south Meridian, you look at Overland Road as your major --
major east-west corridor all of. south Meridian. Because you look at Victory and you
look at Amity and you, okay, where are we going to get those establishments on those
streets. Meridian Road, you look at a major north-south, it should be controlled and it
should --and I'm assuming it's for the most part controlled access. So, your commercial
is going to be limited to the areas that are already established. Then Eagle Road was
pretty much residential on either side of it going -- going south. So, as we continue to
develop and grow to the south, those other uses that we talk about, outside of fast food,
just general, bank uses, retail, all need to flourish -- need to flourish somewhere. So,
I'm speaking more generally than I am specific, because specifically I'm going to look for
you guys' insight. But generally speaking in the south we do need to recognize that as
we go south that Overland becomes more and more and more important to all those
services. So, with that I would stand for any questions and advice and help. What I'm
asking for, really, is the tools for us to go forward.
Zaremba: Yeah. I guess I would comment that I know that looks like an attractive place
for a restaurant or even a fast food restaurant with adrive-thru from a business
standpoint, but my recollection of what was contemplated when this came through the
Planning and Zoning Commission were I think I was when this came through, was lower
density uses -- or lower impact uses than that. And I guess the struggle that I have, if
you put a fast food -- or any restaurant, but particularly a fast food with adrive-thru
there, I think it would be extremely successful and, then, the next question is could it
operate 24 hours a day. Even if that wasn't mentioned earlier, that is the next logical
step for a successful one in that location and I'm not very comfortable with that. If I -- if I
lived there I would not enjoy that. A drive-thru on a bank wouldn't bother me. Other L-O
uses -- and that's what it's currently zoned for -- wouldn't bother me I don't think. I just
struggle with raising the intensity. I do believe what was contemplated across the street
was to fill it out with exactly what you're talking about, the fast food restaurants and, you
know, maybe make the whole area a food court, along with the cinema and the other
stuff that's there. I don't know. I struggle a little bit with being able to contemplate a
heavier use in that -- in that area. Personal opinion.
Rountree: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I hesitate to flatly reject and take the recommendation of Planning and
Zoning, because I think there is potentially a solution to this issue or problem that's been
created with the confusion with the map and the zone and the changes that have
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occurred. My preference would be to continue the dialogue, so we -- we have this
before us, so we don't have to go through the application process and a lot and have
Pete finish the work that he's doing and maybe some of us as well and come up with a
solution that can address the issues and I very much appreciate what folks with the
apartments are facing and some of the issues that have been created because of the
increased -- not just traffic, but foot traffic with the fact that the high school is there and
they draw a lot of traffic. So, my preference would be to let's sit down and talk through
this with some ideas of how to remedy the plat issue -- or the Comprehensive Plan map
issues and strike a compromise in there about what seems to work and what seems not
to work and have that on the table and, then, move forward with that, whether it's some
form of a CUP modification or if it's actually a Comprehensive Plan map modification or
a Comprehensive Plan change, which takes forever anyway. If you're amenable to that.
I don't want to give up on it, but I don't want to say that what I have heard tonight really
gives me a real good solution.
Jewett: Councilman Rountree, I appreciate your comments and I think that that would
be welcome with open arms. The more we look into it, the more me and Sonya and me
and Pete have talked about it, we recognize there is an issue that needs to be dealt with
and you can't short change it. You know, we -- one of our -- one of our options today
was just to withdraw, because it was so complicated and confusing, but I don't think it
solves the answer. The reason I'm here tonight is to interact and try to get insight so we
can move forward, because, really, for us to market that -- that property to end users we
have to have a cohesiveness in all three components, the CUP, the zoning, and the
Comprehensive Plan. So, I would welcome any opportunity to dialogue to resolve that
issue.
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Hoaglun.
Hoaglun: I like Council Rountree's idea to keep the dialogue going. This is something
-- I'm faced with an either/or and there might be something in the middle, but it's going
to take some creativity, it looks like, and some work to get there where the apartment
folks can say, yeah, we think that would work with what we have and works for you and
when Mr. Hall goes out there and markets and whatnot -- and my only question is, Jim,
some day are you going to bring us something easy to work on.
Rountree: And he deserves that.
Jewett: I knew that was coming. You know what, I get the calls, because it is hard and
I put the time into it and I put the thought process into it, so -- I would like to bring you
easy stuff, but, again, the plate's in front of me, I move forward.
Bird: Mr. President?
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Zaremba: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I, too, agree with Brad and Charlie, but -- and I think we need to work hard and
see what is asked to put at that corner or you got -- there is a lot of things -- we don't --
we definitely don't need to punch more traffic on Millennium Drive, but there has got to
be a solution that will make everybody within that area happy and still give us a good
business base that somebody can be successful at. So, I would like to see it continue
on and let's keeping working on it, see if we can't come up with some kind of a solution
that works for everybody.
Zaremba: Thank you. It sounds like the consensus is to continue the public hearing
and would somebody like to pick a target date --date certain to continue it to?
Friedman: Mr. President, Council, a couple thoughts on that. Clearly a minimum of two
weeks would be required I think. We are certainly not going to have the ability to work
this all out in the next two days and be ready to come back to you next week. The other
thing is I think what we would like to do is sit down, process it, work with the applicant
and, then, I would like, in turn, the applicant to meet with the neighbors, with a proposal
-- once we have come up with a proposal meet with the neighbors see if we can't pull
that back altogether so that we have all parties involved. So, I would say a minimum of
at least three weeks, Jim? Pardon me? A little farther? Four weeks? Five weeks?
Bird: How about November 15th?
Friedman: November 15th? Is that enough time? Okay. We can start with November
15th. If we are not ready we can continue on.
Rountree: Thank you. Mr. President?
Zaremba: Yeah. November 15th would be a regular meeting, so -- Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: I move that we continue Item 8-F, Millennium Retail Center until November
15th and direct staff and anyone else they can pull together to work with the applicant to
come up with some solutions and have the applicant, then, meet with the neighbors and
discuss possible solutions.
Bird: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second to continue. All in favor say aye. Any
opposed? That motion carries. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
G. Public Hearing: CPAM 11m001 Southridge Apartments by The
Farran Group, LLC Located South Side of VU. Overland Road
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Midway Between S. °Ten Mile Road and S. Linder Road
Request: Amend the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use
Map ®esignation on 26.38 Acres of Land from Medium ®ensity
Residential (M®R) to Medium High ®ensity Residential (MH®R)
H. Public Hearing: RZ 11-002 Southridge Apartments by °The
Farran Group, LLC Generally Located South Side of UV.
®verland Road Midway Between S. Ten Mile Road and S.
Linder Road Request: Rezone of 42.36 Acres of Land from the
TN-R and R-8 Zoning ®istricts to the R-15 Zoning ®istricts
Zaremba: Next we have Item 8-G and H. I'll open the public hearings for CPAM 11-001
and RZ 11-002, both related to Southridge Apartments by the Farran Group. And,
again, we will begin with the staff report.
Watters: Thank you, President Zaremba, Councilmen. The applications before you are
a Comprehensive Plan map amendment and a rezone. The site consists of 42.36 acres
of land. Is currently zoned TN-R -- excuse me -- R-4 and R-8 and is located on the
south side of West Overland Road midway between South Linder Road and South Ten
Mile Roads. The request is for an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan future land
use map to change the land use designation on 26.38 acres of land from medium
density residential to medium high density residential. A rezone of 42.36 acres of land
from the TN-R, R-4 and R-8 zoning districts to the R-15 zoning district is also requested
consistent with the proposed map amendment. The applicant has submitted a
conceptual development plan and a sample building elevation for phases one and two
that show how the site may develop with amulti-family apartment complex consisting of
two and three story structures. This plan does not include a development plan for the
third phase of development. The proposed R-15 zoning district allows a maximum
gross density of up to 15 dwelling units per acre. Because this property is located
adjacent to land that is designated for mixed employment uses on the north and
northwest sides of Overland, and medium density residential uses to the south and
east, staff is of the opinion the proposed medium high density residential designation in
R-15 zoning will provide a good transition and be compatible with these uses.
Additionally, the adjacent mixed employment areas will provide jobs for residents and
be convenient and easily accessible. The Ridenbaugh Canal that runs along the
southern boundary of this site also will provide a buffer between the proposed multi-
family development and future lower density development to the south and east.
Because the property has changed ownership since the annexation and development
was approved, staff recommends as a provision of the rezone that a new development
agreement be required that will separate this site from the larger Southridge
development. Future development will be required to substantially comply with the
conceptual development plan, design standards contained in the Unified Development
Code and the guidelines contained in the Meridian design manual. Prior to
development of the third phase, the development agreement shall be modified to update
the conceptual site plan to include a development plan for this area. A Conditional Use
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Permit is required for amulti-family development in the R-15 zoning district. The
Commission recommended approval of this application at the September 15th public
hearing. John Malletta testified in favor of the application. Scott Nichols, Steve Prisbos,
Susan Prisbos, Curtis Elton, and Naomi Elton testified in opposition of the applications.
Jim Jewett commented and written testimony was received from John Malletta. There
were no key issues of discussion by the Commission. The Commission did change
staff recommendation to strike development agreement provision 1.1.2E and parks
department conditions in Exhibit B, Section 6, as the multi-use pathway is required on
the south side, not the north side of the Ridenbaugh Canal, per the Southridge
development agreement. There are some outstanding issues for City Council that have
come up since the Commission hearing. I'll go through those one by one. The first,
since the Commission hearing the staff has become aware of a 30 foot wide road right
of way easement, known as Old Thorne Lane, that exists on this property that provides
access to the Rice property to the south. Staff recommends a new provision be added
to the development agreement that requires the applicant to protect and preserve this
access throughout the construction process and after or provide an alternative access
route with the appropriate instrument. That easement is shown on the record of survey
property boundary adjustment before you there. Secondly, the staff recommends a new
provision be added to the development agreement that requires the road right-of-way
easement for Old Thorne Lane to be vacated at such time as the easement has either
been relocated or is no longer needed. Third, the northern parcel -- flip back here -- is a
legal parcel which does not require platting and the southern parcel is not a legal parcel
and does require platting in order to obtain building permits. Staff recommends a new
provision be added to the development agreement that requires the applicant to obtain
approval of a property boundary adjustment in order to extend the boundary of the
existing legal parcel to match the boundary of phase one as generally depicted on the
concept plan, and/or plat the property in order to create a legal lot prior to issuance of a
certificate of zoning compliance on property that encompasses the southern parcel.
Last, staff recommends a new DA provision be added that requires the property to be
platted prior to the development of phase three as shown on the concept in order to
dedicate the right of way necessary for a public street. Written testimony since the
Commission hearing was received from John Malletta in agreement with staff's
proposed added development agreement provisions. Staff will stand for any questions
the Council may have.
Zaremba: Council, any questions?
Bird: Not at this time.
Rountree: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Rountree.
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Rountree: In the DA is there -- are there provisions that some of the common areas and
amenities be put in with the first portions of the first phases, so we don't have all of that
coming in later?
Watters: Councilman Rountree, I'm looking. Just a moment. There is not a condition
currently included in the development agreement, but we can include that. There are
two swimming pools proposed within this development. We could also include a
condition with the subsequent Conditional Use Permit that will be required for the multi-
family development also. So, it could be done either way.
Rountree: And on this -- excuse me, Mr. President. On this site plan can you roughly
indicate where that Old Thorne easement is?
Watters: It generally runs right through the middle of the property here, Councilman. I
can -- just a second. It's right there.
Rountree: Thank you.
Zaremba: Any other questions? All right. I believe we are ready for the applicant.
Thank you. Just a reminder to start with your name and address, please.
Malletta: Okay. Good evening. John Malletta. 13095 North Andy's Gulch, Boise,
Idaho. 83714. Mr. President, Members of the Council, the application in front of you
represents a collaborative effort between the City of Meridian, city planners, land
owners, and the development -- developer. As the developer, the Farran Group has
offices in Eagle, Idaho, and Missoula, Montana. We are an integrated private equity
real estate firm focused on developing investment grade apartment communities. Our
principals have worked together since 2002 and as a group have more than 50 years of
dedicated real estate experience. We believe in implicitly in fulfilling our fiduciary
obligations to investors and upholding our reputation in the industry and communities in
which we live in. As Sonya had mentioned, the subject property is located on the south
side of west Overland Road midway between South Ten Mile and South Linder Road.
The Ridenbaugh Canal rises approximately 15 to 20 feet above Overland Road, which
will serve as the southern most border to the property and serve to physically and
visually separate the site from southern neighboring uses. The application includes a
Comprehensive Plan map amendment, rezoning of two tax parcels, along with an
application for Conditional Use Permit to allow for amulti-family residential project.
These requests are necessary to combine the two properties into a single project. In
conversations with the city staff the originally conceived multi-family area under the
current Southridge plan created a difficult layout that would result in a poor overall
design. Both city staff and the developer agreed that by combining the original multi-
family site with the back 26 acres, we would open up a site and allow for design that
better integrates into the surrounding community. The design would allow for more
open space, staggered building heights and, in general, eliminate a tight building layout
surrounded by expansive parking lots. We recognize that this application is just the first
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step in the process. We also understand and agree that the application will be subject
to a development agreement modification, given the fact that since the time of
annexation this property has been sold and is under new ownership. For this reason
staff has recommended the current owner enter into a new development agreement
with the city separating it from the Southridge development agreement as a provision of
this rezone. As a representative of the land owner it is our intention to start this process
with the Meridian city attorney immediately following the approval of this application.
The proposed changes in land use from medium density residential to medium high
density residential are consistent with the goals and objectives of the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan, the Ten Mile interchange specific area plan, and the medium high
density residential land use designation. The subject property is adjacent to land that is
designated mixed employment and multi -- medium density residential. The proposed
rezone will assist in providing a transition between the medium density residential use to
the south and east and the mixed employment to the north and northwest of the subject
property. This change enables quality discretionary housing near Meridian's key
commercial employment and developing activity centers, while providing convenient
access to services and jobs for all residents. All necessary services are currently
available to the community and will be available upon development of the subject site.
We are committed to provide the city residents of all income levels, age and family size
an attractive and connected community. By combining both parcels we have
dramatically improved critical design elements within the community, including livability,
walk ability, and accessibility for our tenants. This design demonstrates compatibility
with adjacent uses and the cohesiveness of an individual project. It is our intent to
create a welcoming, esthetically pleasing community accommodating a wide range of
tenants. The project will have multiple entrances, including an emergency access point
off of Overland Road. Our main entrance will also be located off of Overland Road and
will enter the project directly in front of the community center. The site plan is interlaced
with pathways to various buildings and amenities, as well as connected to Overland
Road, both on the east and west side of the project. The site plan includes strategically
located open space, pocket parks, pathways, controlled social areas, water features,
and a centralized community center. The community center may include a social
lounge, espresso bar, free WiFi, fitness center, an outdoor pool and spa, patios,
barbecue areas and a theater screening room. All of these amenities are designed to
enhance the tenant experience and increase the tenant living area outside of the
apartment unit, creating more of a community atmosphere. The community is proposed
for a two and three story class A project with amenities and unit finishes with one of the
top apartment communities in the northwest. In the site design we have centered the
three story product, while placing the two story product near the edges to help integrate
this property into the surrounding uses and create a more esthetically pleasing
elevation. This project will contain a mix of studio one, two, and three bedroom units
and will contribute to a range of housing opportunities available in the City of Meridian.
Exterior elevations will be designed in accordance with the City of Meridian design
criteria, but promote quality architecture and project identity. I want to thank the city
planners, Planning and Zoning -- and Planning and Zoning Commission for their
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recommended approval and look to City Council for continued support. Thank you.
May I answer any questions that you may have?
Zaremba: Any questions? Mr. Rountree?
Rountree: Yes. On the site plan that we have up there it shows the southern portion of
this particular development in gray and there is a dashed line that's following below the
Ridenbaugh Canal and below the greening, I guess, of that area. Is that the irrigation
easement?
Friedman: It is. My understand I think it's 50 feet --
Watters: Not sure.
Rountree: And what's proposed to be done with that?
Friedman: Mr. President, Council Members, at this point the application is for this
phase one and phase two. They come in with a -- as we said, an addition to having to
plat that parcel, because a road is required to extend it, they will be back with another
development agreement -- or a develop agreement modification to bring you a detailed
site plan for that one when they are ready to develop.
Rountree: Okay.
Zaremba: Are you generating more questions?
Rountree: I'm just wondering why the Old Thorne right of way easement is an issue
here. Is the Rice property in another ownership at this point? It appeared like it's in
phase two.
Friedman: Mr. President, Council Members -- go ahead, Sonya, and answer.
Watters: The Rice property is to the south of this property. I'll show you here. It's this
little square right down here.
Rountree: Okay. Okay.
Zaremba: And I guess the point is it's still in use and the people need that access?
Watters: It is. Yes. Yes.
Zaremba: Okay.
Rountree: Okay.
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Zaremba: Or an alternate.
Hoaglun: Mr. President? Sonya, is that on the south side of the Ridenbaugh Canal?
Watters: It is. There is a bridge.
Hoaglun: There is a bridge.
Watters: Uh-huh.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Rountree: That's all I had.
Zaremba: Thank you. I guess I would go back to what's probably a tentative site plan,
if we may. Yes. That one.
Watters: And if I may just clarify. There is a 140 foot Ridenbaugh Canal easement that
exists. There is 80 feet, it looks like, from the center line north that is shown on the
property boundary adjustment.
Zaremba: Okay. Thank you. I guess I want to -- you mentioned that there will be a
nice entrance to this and I certainly agree that there needs to be an entrance off of
Overland, but what I'm looking at is the right location for the entrance you're proposing.
It appears to me that it's right at the end of a curve, right at the base of a hill, in a place
where right-in, right-out would be iffy and left-in, left-out probably is unwise. Have you
run this by ACHD or is there any chance of moving that access a little farther to the
east?
Malletta: That access you're referring to is actually the emergency access --
Zaremba: Oh.
Malletta: -- that the city, fire, and police have -- after obtaining and evaluated that would
be for emergency purposes only. The main entrance is going to be down as you're
looking at the site plan to the right and bordering the --
Zaremba: Oh. Okay.
Malletta: -- eastern edge of the site plan.
Zaremba: Good. Excellent location. Thank you. And the fire and police access is a
good idea, too. So, thank you.
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Hoaglun: Mr. President, I need to have Sonya just to jog my memory. The difference in
medium density residential versus medium high density residential, Ican't -- I can't
remember the -- the differences. Pete or Sonya, what --
Watters: Medium high density residential is three to eight dwelling units per acre and
medium high density residential is eight to 15.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Zaremba: While you're still standing there let me ask. I do not have anybody else
signed up to testify. Anybody -- this is your opportunity if you care to add anything or
against or clarify anything. Seeing nobody, do you have any wrap-up remarks?
Malletta: I don't. We just look forward to working with the city attorney to put the
development agreement in and I want to thank the city staff for all their patience and
help through this process.
Hoaglun: And, Mr. President, I wanted to follow up on something Councilman Rountree
brought up earlier -- was on the pool, the amenities, is that going to be part of the phase
up front?
Malletta: Yes, it will be. My understanding is I think we are required to put somewhere
between -- in the range of three to four amenities, whether they are --
Friedman: More than that.
Malletta: Under the term -- under the code we are required to put in a certain number of
amenities in each of the various phases, which we absolutely understand that that's
what makes kind if this community.
Hoaglun: Okay. Great. Thank you.
Watters: And just to clarify, Councilman Rountree, I could have answered your question
a little better earlier, but there is a development agreement provision that requires
development of the site to substantially comply with the concept plan. The concept plan
does call out all the site amenities, so -- and the phasing boundaries also, so should be
covered there.
Zaremba: All right.
Rountree: Thank you.
Zaremba: Any further comments from staff? Pete, you look like you have something
almost coming.
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Friedman: No. It was an editorial comment. I think just reciprocating the applicant's
comments when this project came to us it was not of a level that we could have
supported and we have had an iterative relationship with this applicant in working side
by side to come up with I believe a development plan that is heads and shoulders above
what came through the door initially. So, we -- it's been -- it's been good for us and it's
been a good working relationship.
Zaremba: Great. Thank you.
Rountree: Mr. President?
Zaremba: All right. I believe we would be ready to close the public hearing.
Rountree: Mr. President, I move that we close the public hearing on item --did we have
both G and H or just G?
Bird: You can do both of them.
Zaremba: Both.
Rountree: Okay. Public Hearings on Items 8-G and H.
Bird: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Any opposed?
Motion carries. Both hearings are closed.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rountree: Mr. President?
Zaremba: Mr. Rountree.
Rountree: It's a nice job that you have brought forward. It's nice to see something like
this that is well thought out and the concept that looks like it will be very much
appreciated in the future as that area develops. So, thank you. With that I would move
that we approve Items 8-G and H, subject to applicant and staff comments and the four
provisions that staff have provided us in their summary.
Bird: Second.
Zaremba: We have a motion and a second. Madam Clerk.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
Zaremba: All ayes. Both measures have passed.
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MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 9: Future Meeting Topics
Zaremba: That concludes our published agenda for the night. The last item is future
meeting topics. Gentlemen, anything to propose?
Rountree: I don't have anything.
Zaremba: Anything from Planning and Zoning or Mr. Nary? Anything from fire or
police, who have not spoken yet tonight? Kyle, just to recognize that you're here.
Anything from you?
Radek: I'm fine.
Bird: Why are you so quiet.
Rountree: Mr. President, I move we adjourn.
Zaremba: Thank you all for hanging through.
Bird: Second.
Hoaglun: Second.
Zaremba: Motion and a second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Zaremba: We are adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:49 P.M.
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