Loading...
HomeMy WebLinkAbout2010 11-09 WorkshopMeridian City Council Workshop Meetina November 9, 2010 A Council meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 6:15 p.m., Tuesday, November 9, 2010, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd. Members Present: Mayor Tammy de Weerd, President David Zaremba, Charlie Rountree, Keith Bird, and Brad Hoaglun. Others Present: Bill Nary, Jacy Jones, Anna Canning, Pete Friedman, Joe Silva, Tracy Basterrechea, Rick Dees, John Boyd, and Dean Willis. Item 1: Roll-call Attendance: Roll call. X David Zaremba X Brad Hoaglun X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird X Mayor Tammy de Weerd de Weerd: Thank you all for your patience in our late delay -- or our delayed beginning of our regular meeting and welcome. It is, for the record, Tuesday, November 9th. It's 6:15. I will start tonight's meeting with roll call attendance. Madam Clerk. Item 2: Pledge of Allegiance de Weerd: Item No. 2 is our Pledge of Allegiance. If you will all rise and join us in the pledge. (Pledge of Allegiance recited.) Item 3: Adoption of the Agenda de Weerd: Item No. 3 is adoption of the agenda. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? de Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Hoaglun: Lost in thought there for a moment. Sorry about that. Under tonight's agenda just want to point out some additions under Item 9, Department Reports, 9-A is resolution number 10-753 and 9-B is resolution number 10-754. And with that, Madam Mayor, I move adoption of tonight's agenda. Bird: Second. Rountree: Second. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 2 of 24 de Weerd: I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as stated. All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carried. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 4: Proclamation A. Idaho Non-Profit Awareness Month Proclamation de Weerd: Item No. 4 is a proclamation for the Idaho Nonprofit Awareness Month and will ask Joey Schueler and I see we have some members of the Boys and Girls Club, if you will join me at the podium. I will read this proclamation and, then, I would like to present it to the members of one of Meridian's nonprofits, the Boys and Girls Club -- the Meridian Boys and Girls Club. Thank you for being here. Okay. Whereas nonprofit organizations help build and sustain healthy communities in our state while enhancing the quality of life for Idahoans and for others throughout the country and whereas thousands of nonprofit organizations based in Idaho contribute significantly to a viable economy by providing Idahoans with jobs, goods, and services with expenditures of more than two billion dollars and whereas Idaho's nonprofit leaders are often entrepreneurs creating new solutions to problems and will fill previously unmet needs in areas of health, recreation, education, research, arts, social services, and more and whereas the nonprofit sector works as a responsible partner with private enterprise and government to alleviate the most pressing social issues of our time and whereas nonprofit organizations often fulfill their missions by advocating on behalf of those who cannot advocate themselves. Therefore, I, Mayor Tammy de Weerd, City of Meridian, do hereby proclaim November 7th through the 13th as Idaho Nonprofit Awareness Week in the City of Meridian and I encourage all of our citizens to recognize and continue to support the nonprofits in our community and this is signed the 9th day of November 2010. So, I would like to present this to -- I would like to present this to you, Joey, and the members that you brought here with you tonight. Schueler: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, and guests, just want to thank you for this honor to be able to represent nonprofits in Meridian and thank you for your dedication to nonprofits based here in the city and preserving the quality of life that you set such high standards for the city. Thank you. Item 5: Consent Agenda A. Approve Minutes of October 26, 2010 City Council Regular Meeting B. Acceptance Agreement: Display of Artwork in Initial Point Gallery, Meridian City Hall between the Idaho Watercolor Society and the City of Meridian C. Joint Use of Storage Space and Hold Harmless Agreement Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 3 of 24 Between Meridian Development Corporation and City of Meridian D. Memorandum of Agreement Between Joint School District No. 2 and the City of Meridian for Joint Use of Sports Facilities for a Not-to-Exceed Amount of $8,000 E. Memorandum of Understanding with Lynx Investments, LP. as Part of a Sewer Line Replacement Project F. Sanitary Sewer and Water Main Easement Agreement with Lynx Investments, LP G. Approval of Agreement for Hookup to the City of Meridian's Sewer/Water System Outside the City Limits for Jay W. Clow Located at 2301 S. Ten Mile Road H. License Agreement with Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District to Cross the Kennedy Lateral with a Trunk Sewer Line for the Victory Road Sewer Connector Project I. Water Main Easement for Ada County Paramedic Station #36 Located at 3195 North Linder Road J. Amendment to Original Contract Dated August 24, 2009 for Liquid Emulsion Polymer with Weschem, Inc. for aNot-To- Exceed Amount of $112,100.00 K. Award of Bid (IFB #PD-11-10213) for ShoreTel Phone System to VLCM at the Police Department for aNot-to-Exceed Amount of $52,556.35 L. Order for Approval: TE 10-021 Arch Rock Subdivision by CTD Development, LLC Located at 4550 N. Linder Road Request: 18-Month Time Extension to Obtain the City Engineer's Signature on the Final Plat M. Order and Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law far Approval: PFP 10-003 for Raisin' Angels Subdivision by Capital Holdings, LLC. Located at 1125 E. Pine Avenue Request: Combined Preliminary /Final Plat Approval of 2 Building Lots on 0.96 of an Acre N. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Approval: RZ 10-002 for Raisin' Angels Subdivision by Capital Hill Holdings, LLC Located at 1125 E. Pine Avenue Request: Rezone Approval of Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 4 of 24 0.43 of an Acre with a C-C Zoning District O. Findings of Fact, Conclusions of Law for Approval: CUP 10- 010. for Raisin' Angels Subdivision by Capital Hill Holdings, LLC Located at 1125 E. Pine Avenue Request: Conditional Use Permit Approval for a Daycare Center for up to Sixty (60) Children in a Proposed C-C Zoning District de Weerd: Thank you. Item No. 5 is the Consent Agenda. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor, there are no changes to the tonight's Consent Agenda, so I move approval of the Consent Agenda and the Mayor be authorized to sign and Clerk to attest. Bird: Second. Zaremba: Second. de Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve the Consent Agenda. If there is no questions, Madam Clerk, will you call roll. Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. de Weerd: All ayes. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. Item 6: Community Items/Presentations A. Introduction and Recognition of Police Department Newly Hired and Promoted Officers by Deputy Chief Tracy Basterrechea de Weerd: Item 6 under Community Items/Presentations, I am pleased to recognize Deputy Chief Tracy Basterrechea and ask him to introduce some of our police officers that will be officially or ceremonially -- ceremonially? That was a good word. Ceremoniously swearing in this evening. Basterrechea: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. First I'd like to point out the chief would -- he can't be here tonight, he would really like to be here. Most of you know he enjoys talking about the men and women of the Meridian Police Department and I get the honor tonight. Unfortunately, he's had a death in the family and he won't be here. He did want me to pass on to all of you that he really appreciates all of your thoughts and prayers that you have sent out to him. The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to announce some of our new hires. We have two officers who are brand new officers. They are currently in the police academy and I will call them up and Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 5 of 24 have them just step right up here. The first is Shaun Eichmann and Shaun actually comes to us from the Ada county dispatch. He was a dispatcher prior to getting hired on with us. And next is Scott McKinney and he is an engineer, right? A little -- I don't know why he's doing this, but -- de Weerd: It's not for the money. Basterrechea: The other two new officers that we have are new to the Meridian Police Department, but they are not new to law enforcement. They are lateral transfer officers and the first of them is Rick Brockbank. He comes to us from Caldwell. And Jake Durban from Garden City. The next group of officers that I would like to introduce to everybody our newly promoted officers and I will tell you that we have had a lot of promotions within the Meridian Police Department within the last few months and we are very, very excited about the promotions that we have made. The chief and I and the command staff really believe that these gentlemen that we are going to introduce to you here to tonight are going to bring a new level -- take us to the next level tactically and in delivering the services that our citizens deserve and should demand and we believe that these officers or the officers that they are going to be, will be able to take us there. First I'd like to have newly promoted Corporal Mark Ford. Corporal Chris Figal. Corporal Jeremy Lindley. Sergeant Chris Simms is not here, he's elk hunting. I don't blame him. Sergeant Branden Fiscus. And Sergeant Shawn Harper. And, Mayor, if you would lead them in the oath of office. de Weerd: Even though it's ceremoniously, I appreciate the opportunity to stand in front of you this evening. It's an honor for me. So, if you will raise your right hand. I think this is my right hand. And when I say state your name, if you will insert your name that would be good. I, state your name, do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution and laws of the state of Idaho. I'm glad you practiced. And the laws and ordinances of the City of Meridian. And that I will abide by the Law Enforcement Code of Ethics. And the policies and procedures of the Meridian Police Department. That I will obey the lawful orders and directives of those appointed over me. And that I will, to the best of my ability, faithfully discharge all the duties of the office of police officer in and for the City of Meridian, Idaho, so help me God. (Repeated by officers.) de Weerd: Thank you. I can say that I know you don't hear it often enough, but we appreciate the service that you provide our citizens and our city and that you serve our city so well with dignity and honor and I truly mean that. So, thank you for being here this evening. Item 7: Items Moved From Consent Agenda de Weerd: Okay. There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 6 of 24 Item 8: Action Items A. Open Public Hearing and Public Comment Period for PY2009 Consolidated Annual Performance and Evaluation Report (CAPER) Regarding the City's Use of Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Funds B. Open Public Hearing and Public Comment Period for a Substantial Amendment to the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) 2009 Action Plan de Weerd: So, we will move to Item 8 under Action Items. We have an open public hearing and public comment period for the 2009 Consolidated Annual Performance and Evaluation Report on our CDBG funds and also the open public hearing period for substantial amendment for the Community Development Block Grant 2009 Action Plan. will turn this over to staff. Friedman: Thank you, Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. The first item you have tonight is opening the public hearing and comment period for the CAPER. That's the report that analyzes and highlights the accomplishments and expenditures of our CDBG program over the past year. Normally it's a 15 day comment period, but because you have the other comment period we would like to extend that concurrent with the next public hearing and recommend that you keep the public comment period open and hold the record of the hearing open until December 14th and that is for our annual evaluation and performance report. The second item or the second public hearing item is an amendment to the 2009 action program. It would be to reallocate 40,000 dollars from our 2009 action plan that was earmarked for the MDC facade improvement program. Those didn't go forward and there is a real need for our community center to come into compliance with the ADA and so there has been a reallocation proposed to move the 40,000 dollars over to the community center project. The plans have been completed and, really, this project is ready to go forward in January, so staff was -- there is a 30 day comment period on this, so we are recommending that you open public hearing, keep the record open until December 14th and available for comment until that time. de Weerd: Thank you. Any questions from Council? Rountree: I have none. Bird: I have none. de Weerd: Very good. So, you will be back. Friedman: We will be back. de Weerd: Very good. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 7 of 24 Hoaglun: Madam Mayor, do we need any formal action to keep the first one open until December 14th or is that by consensus? Because I'm fine with that. de Weerd: I don't believe so. Mr. Nary? Nary: Yeah. I think as long as you open it, that's fine. de Weerd: Okay. We are good to go, then. Friedman: Okay. Thank you. Item 9: Department Reports A. Mayor's Office: Resolution No. 10-753: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City Council of the City of Meridian Establishing the Appointment of Tom Sauer to the Meridian Solid Waste Advisory Commission B. Mayor's Office: Resolution No. 10-754: A Resolution of the Mayor and the City Council of the City of Meridian, Appointing Chelsea Mason to the Traffic Safety Commission; and Providing and Effective Date de Weerd: Okay. Under Department Reports, 9-A and B, I do have appointments to two different to commissions. The first one is regarding the Solid Waste Advisory Commission. This will completely fill our SWAC and in front of you today is the appointment of Tom Sauer. He has served on our consulting planning group and we found that he provided excellent and -- excellent feedback. He was dependable and have his name in front of me to place on the Solid Waste Advisory Commission. And, second, is the appointment of Chelsea Mason to the Traffic Safety Commission. Chelsea would be our Youth Council representative and we interviewed her earlier this week and she was very -- very interested in transportation, wants to be involved at the traffic safety level and you probably know her dad a lot better than you know Chelsea and that's Doug Mason. So, Council, I would open myself up to any questions you might have. Rountree: I have none. de Weerd: If there is no questions, I would ask. for your confirmation. Rountree: Madam Mayor? de Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: I move that we approve resolutions 10-753 and 10-354. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 8 of 24 Zaremba: Second. de Weerd: I have a motion and a second to approve the two resolutions under 9-A and B. Any discussion? Madam Clerk, will you, please, call roll. Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea. de Weerd: All ayes. Thank you. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. C. Planning Department: Strategic Plan Update de Weerd: Okay. Our next Item 9-C is our Planning Director Anna Canning for the strategic plan update. Canning: Thank you, Mayor and Council. I am here again this year to present our action plan, very similar to the methodology I used last year. I did, however -- I was using Brenda Sherwood's presentation as my template today and I thought mission statement, now we used to have a mission statement for the planning department back to the old Luthy strategic plan days, so I decided to go dig it up again and this is what it was and it, actually, still rings pretty true. The planning department's mission is to provide property development guidance and direction while administering standards that insure the orderly and harmonious use of land to preserve and enhance the quality of life, property rights, and tax base for current and future generations. So, it's kind of funny you can leave something sit for a few years and you come back and it's like, yeah, that's what we are doing. That's pretty good. I liked it. And even better than that was the vision I thought and it's the department will seek new efficiencies through electronic technology, better public and professional education, updated ordinances that support the community vision and clear guidelines that can guide decisions by elected officials. And I think that as you go through, one, the memo that I submitted to you with your packet tonight and, two, tonight's presentation, you will see that those really are what we are trying to accomplish and through its works the department will help create a community with a sustainable small town atmosphere, a positive progressive image and a reputation for prudent harmonious growth. So, that's enough of the John Luthy days and I'll move onto the new stuff. So, tonight I'm going to talk about some of our accomplishments. I kind of hit those more in the memo than I am tonight -- in tonight's presentation, because, basically, almost everything I told you last year that I was going to do I got done and C'm really proud of that, I'm really proud of my staff. I think we came up with a method of holding one another accountable and it really worked and I'm excited about using that again this year and -- and moving forward with the many things we have planned. So, the accomplishments and action items I've kind of grouped them a tad bit different than they were in the memo, just to kind of speed things along, but I will talk about Destination Downtown, some of our other plans, transportation and transit, grant programs, code amendments, customer service, economic development, training and, then, administrative tasks and fun stuff. Destination Downtown is a great Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 9 of 24 document. It has got a ton of stuff in there about MDC's vision for the downtown and I was able to take the time to go through that document, compare it to our own kind of goals for the Comprehensive Plan and really come up with a laundry list of many items that we can do to help implement Destination Downtown and really flush out our Old Town designation or just the planning for those areas identified in Destination Downtown. In particular they call out five different areas, traditional city core, Washington and Main district, neighborhood preservation areas, the TOD, which stands for Transit Oriented Development, a cultural district, the southern gateway entertainment and hospitality district and the northern gateway district and that's six, I'm sorry, not five. So, those are the six districts that they call out and what I would like to do with each of those kind of a little mini sub plan -- sub area plan, which would just mean talking with the -- all the property owners, inviting them to a meeting, sitting down saying, okay, this is the vision, how do we get there, what code amendments do we need. You know, what do you need -- what tools do you need as property owners to get you toward that vision. The other plans we are looking at is wrapping up the Comprehensive Plan update. This is one of those items from last year's action plan that slipped a little bit, partly because Matt Ellsworth left, partly because it just slipped a little bit and -- but we are wrapping that up the end of this year, so that it will be done soon. Another plan for next year is the Rails With Trails initiative. Every year we do a little bit of work on that and it's, you know, kind of keeping our shoulder to the grindstone and it's starting to move a little bit. I suspect that Ada county will make us work on our south Meridian future planning area. I think I have mentioned that to you before. I think that that's going to be something that they -- they are going to want to see us do, so we will probably need to spend a little time on that. And, again, the field's district is another one of those that because of the slow down in the economy hasn't been real pressure to work on that, but definitely need to do some additional planning for that area. Moving on. I think I skipped one. No. Moving on to transportation and transit. You know, with regard to transportation I have just been delighted with the way Caleb has taken it over. It's two years into it now and I think he's just doing a phenomenal job keeping everything -- keeping track of everything and making sure everything coordinates and works together and we hope to continue those efforts and even use the website even more to kind of keep people connected. The Destination Downtown had quite a few transit items on there. We want to explore those with MDC and with Council and see where you all want to go with those transit items, but there is a new emphasis at least in looking at those things from Destination Downtown. The grant programs, energy efficiency and conservation, as you know, Pete has been working on that and continues to administer that. It's kind of out into the project managers now that the projects are underway, but he is still kind of overseeing that. And, then, of course, the Community Development Block Grant program, with Lori taking on that as -- as a part-time job was a great decision. I mean she is just tickled to have meaningful part-time work. She doesn't want full-time work, she's been able to catch on really quickly due in large part because Matt left this tremendous guide on how to get that done. He just documented everything that the -- basically the standard operating procedures for the CDBG block grant administration and she's been able to grab that and just really hit the floor running. She brings in many things for me to sign. Every day she comes in. So, she's doing a great job. We have a whole bunch of code amendments. I kind of detailed Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 10 of 24 them and I can go into more detail, but there is the general housing ones which we always bring in, those are just little tweaks, but we also want to look at daycares, we want to look at the stuff that's called out in Destination Downtown. We want to work with Mr. Silva on a pipeline ordinance. We want to look at -- it's not really code amendment, but some ways to encourage voluntary annexation in those areas where we want to kind of establish a city boundary. Wireless communication is -- needs work. Adult entertainment is in a different section of the code, it probably should be brought into the land use and updated to something other than 1960 standards, which is I think kind of what we are working on now. Same with mobile home parks. That is very antiquated code, it really should be pulled into the land use section. Because they were in different sections I didn't tackle it when we first did the UDC, but Emily Kane and have been talking about it for a couple years and I think this is probably the year to get it done. We will continue to work on customer service. I don't know if you can read. the jokes, but the first -- the internal customer service -- one of the things we want to work on more is those interactive pdfs. A little over a year ago I think we brought in the first one that we did to show off to Council where, you know, you kind of figured out which CZC process you needed to go through and we have really enjoyed those. We did another one for temporary uses that's very helpful. We have one on how long will it take to get through the development process and we just thought of all sorts of different ways we can do more, especially geared toward the customers and even talked to the Mayor about maybe integrating some video if we can in those -- make it really a useful customer service tool for folks. This year we were able to get all our SOPs pretty much done, so where we had had none, truly none, we finally had the chance to sit down and really detail what our standard operating procedures were throughout the office. We are going to need to redo those all once the Accela comes on line, but it should be fairly easy compared to coming up with it the first time and, actually, because we had got them all done this year it made the discussions with the Accela folks much easier, because we could say, well, this is what we do and we just handed all of them to them and so it really streamlined that process of trying to figure out our business model. The courses -- sometime I put it in quotes. We took some time this year to offer planning 101 to anybody that was interested. Some of the directors that didn't know much about planning took advantage of it. Some of the clerks who sometimes didn't understand the whole planning process -- it was just really helpful. We just said, you know, come to us for an hour, we will show you how this works. And they were really well received. So, we kind of want to continue that just to give the people the opportunity to have a little bit better understanding of all the crazy things we are trying to get done and why we are picky about some things. Externally we want the second part of our ambassador program. The first part was with our -- our tried and true customers, those folks that come in time and time again, we were talking to them about, you know, what could we do better, basically. And this other one would be more of going out to those folks who only use the process once, they are only going to do a baby delivery place once in their life and, you know, they come through and have to get the CU. What can we do for those folks to make it less intimidating, to make it smoother, to make it so that, you know, they understand what they can expect at each level and what the financial commitments are as well. And, then, kind of related to that is we are going to spend some time working with other folks in the development services fund to really try and Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 11 of 24 bridge that gap between planning and building department, because sometimes making that transition is difficult and I think we are looking at it in a couple of different ways. Economic development. I went through Brenda Sherwood's presentation to you all and pulled out the things that kind of relate to planning. Those are pretty basic. So, additional site selection tools on GIS and a guide to starting businesses, the processes, the zoning, any incentives we might get -- be able to offer. So, we will work with her on those and a couple of other smaller projects. And we get to administrative tasks and a few fun things. The administrative tasks are more training on geographic information systems. New templates for findings and orders. Working with other jurisdictions to coordinate our plans. And, then, some of the fun stuff. I want to take one break before that. My favorite thing in the whole CARE is the one that says enjoy your job and do it well and I think that that means so much to the employees that they can come in and know when they come to work that they enjoy their job and that they are expected to do it well and given the tools to do it well. So, sometimes enjoying your job means dressing up as Umpa Lumpas for the day on Halloween. This is last Halloween. And the other things we have planned are a holiday get together with Planning and Zoning Commission. We haven't done anything with them in awhile, so we thought it would be nice after Christmas to do a little thing together. A team building event sometime in the spring. Somebody gave me a 75 dollar Wahoo's gift certificate for some work I was doing for a nonprofit group. It wasn't related to work. So, I'm going to use that and take the -- take staff over to Wahoo's and have some fun in the spring. And we'd like to -- to somehow secure some paint and come in and paint our lobby walls one of these days. We are the only lobby that has no color on the walls, so we thought we might try and do that and maybe even get a new poster for the lobby. So, those are our fun things. So, on my action plan list last year there was about 60 to 70 things to do and, as I said, we got most all of them done or they are largely complete by this time. This year's action plan has closer to 160. So, a lot more. Now, they are a lot smaller some of them. Some of them -- a lot of them came from MDC, so it's just kind of trying to figure out are we already doing this, do we need to do more. But I still think even though we have a lot more items on there we can get them done. This year the one item that was the biggest delayed item was the Comprehensive Plan update, but that will wrap up. Next year of those items on those lists I have put a date next to each of them on when they kind of start or wrap up and there are some that are programmed out for next fiscal year, so they fall into October, November, December of next fiscal year and those are largely some of the Destination Downtown plans, about half of them, and the interactive pdf and all those items rely on the skill set of Brian McClure. Brian is my new -- Matt's other half, so Lori and Brian make up Matt's farmer full-time position and Brian has a great skill set, he's turning out to be a great worker, just jumps in and gets a whole bunch of work done, but, still, because we have to rely on him for those tasks, it just takes time, because -- to get through that list, because he's only here part time and it only goes so far. So, given that I do have a request for you tonight and this wasn't in the memo. In my current budget I have three part-time positions. One is for Lori and, then, one was for Will and one's for Brian. I would ask if you could give me some guidance or whether you might accept a budget amendment to combine two of those part times into a full time. There are sufficient funds in my budget to cover the salary. The question just becomes is there enough funds to cover the benefits that come along Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 12 of 24 with afull-time employee. There is a lot left over from the salary to cover it, but I would need about 17,000 dollars. There is a shortfall there -- to pick up the rest of the benefits. I talked with Stacy. In the development services fund balance there is an excess in the amount of the -- if you look at the four month emergency balance necessary, there is still some funds left over and those funds would be sufficient to cover the shortfall of the 17,000 dollars and those are based on rather conservative forecasted revenues for the planning department, even more conservative than last year. Our general sense is that things are picking up and we have actually had some -- three large projects come in this fiscal year already. So, we are optimistic that we will at least meet our revenues, if not exceed them for this year. Did want to point out some of our department efficiencies from last year. We saved 200,000 dollars from our budgeted money. So, our budget was cut and we cut folks and we needed to cut folks at that time. But in addition to that we saved 200,000 dollars. Some of that was on personnel, 16 percent, but a lot of it was on operating, 70 percent. So, we only used 30 percent of our operating budget. We just really hunkered down last year and didn't use much. So, I'm hoping that we will be rewarded for those great efforts last year and that perhaps we can get just a little bit of money to move apart-time employee up to full time, consolidate those positions, and really get to work and roll up our plans and dive into that Destination Downtown and get some planning done. I mean that was the thing that didn't get done last year was planning. We got a lot of the administrative stuff done, we did a lot of the current planning stuff, but we just didn't have the resources to get a lot of the planning done and with that I'll end my presentation and answer any questions or darts you want to throw at me or -- I'll dodge the darts. de Weerd: Thank you. Councilman Rountree. Rountree: Anna, under the transportation item we talked about transit and we have had a conversation about also factoring into that discussion VRT, because that's an effort that they will be undertaking this next year is looking at the transit plan for the Meridian area. So, I would hope that all three entities could come together and form one plan so we don't have a couple competing plan working against each other. Canning; The intent was to not do a transit plan, but to, instead, work with VRT on those transit plans. The other items that MDC brings up is like what does the furniture look like. What does the street furniture look like for transit. So, those kinds of items. You know, what do the shelters look like, what do the bike racks look like, all that kind of stuff. But -- and Caleb did tell me I think that they -- VRT had hired a consultant, so the intent would just be to work with VRT on that plan and actively to accurately engage. Rountree: Very good. Canning: I'm not into competing plans whatsoever. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor? de Weerd: Mr. Hoaglun. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 13 of 24 Hoaglun: Anna, sometimes here in Council some of our decisions we throw you guys a curve ball when we say we approve something and say, well, we will have you check back six months, a year, two years from now. Are you in a position now where you're satisfied with the system you have in place for documentation, so you can do the follow up? Do you need other assistance in different types of systems or are we good moving forward, so when we throw you a curve ball and say, well, you guys are going to have to follow up, you know, a long time from now, you guys are able to do that? Canning: Oh, yeah. I mean Accela is going to be amazing as it's sold. And I'm starting to believe the hype. I mean there are a lot of flags and tools that you can use on that enterprise software to make sure that we are notified of the things and the flags come up in the future. So, I am very hopeful. Plus if we just all have it in the same place think it will help there, too. Hoaglun: Okay. Good. de Weerd: Any other questions from Council? Bird: I have none. de Weerd: Thank you, Anna. Canning: Thank you. So, thoughts or comments? Rountree: She wants a reaction to the full-time position. de Weerd: I think people have been waiting for your liaison to say something Rountree: Well, we, obviously, have talked about that and certainly it's going to be at Council's decision. There is work not getting done and it's not terribly efficient to do some of that work on a piecemeal part-time basis. If we are going to get the plans done for the various areas identified by MDC, we are going to need staff to do that. If you do it with three part-time people or two part-time people, that's not as efficient as having one person working on it full time. There are other areas where that position could be utilized in terms of learning the other activities in the planning department and support with potential for increased work if we have already had three fairly sizeable projects come before the city through planning this fiscal year, I would anticipate we are going to see a few more and we have down sized and down sized appropriately by three full- time people just past year and a half. For your consideration, I think the efficiency is there for the one full-time person. I think we could probably -- well, obviously, the money is there, it's a matter of a budget amendment. de Weerd: Okay. Zaremba: Madam Mayor? Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 14 of 24 de Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: I would just comment that I think it's fair to couple the two ideas that you and your department have saved 200,000 dollars and that proves your efficiency and desire and when you come and ask and say, look, Ineed afull-time employee out of two part- time employees, I think it's fair for us to consider that and if it costs 17,000 dollars out of the 200,000 dollars that you have already saved, that's a good deal for us, and I would also say that that's a good example and incentive for all departments that -- if we can do things like that, if you find ways to save and there is other things that you think need to be done that weren't on the budget in the first place, then, that's the right time to talk about it when you're telling us what you have saved. I'm in favor of it. de Weerd: Council, any other questions or comments? Certainly I would like to underscore maybe something that Charlie mentioned. It's more efficient manpower in combining the two half times into afull-time focus and as we discussed at the directors meeting today, the downtown and the vision through a great deal of collaborative efforts and public participation in the Destination Downtown plan does -- does require the city to step forward and be a leader in the implementation as well and that leading does come in the large part from the planning department. Anna has done a very good job in taking the Destination Downtown plan and evaluating partners to the implementation of the four different primary focus areas of prosperity, mobility, livability and sustainability and bringing to fruition a number of the initiatives that they have outlined, but it will take a very focused and concerted effort to engage and to deploy a lot of the activities that need to be done in order to move that plan forward and in discussion of it you could continue to do it with the three separate half-time positions, but I don't think it will be as effective, efficient, and could be more costly in the long run. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor. I appreciate, Anna, the efficiencies that you -- you have done in your department and everyone was tightening their belt and you did it and made it work and, you know, a lot of work slowed down out there from the planning end and I'm under no illusion that here in the near future, even though we have some projects coming through that we are going to have a flood of projects, but at the same time I like the idea of being a little ahead of the curve, making sure our planning process is as good as we can get it and, then, staying focused on the customer service aspect that you guys and that is making sure when projects are coming into the door we have great customer service, because you're doing it now, continue that and as that grows we have got people who can help them and get those projects through the pipeline, which in my mind puts people to work and we can recover a lot faster and not. have any delays as that -- as those things come in the door and we are not behind the curve trying to hire and find adequate people to fill and I think from that approach that will help and through the efficiencies you found we can make the funding available for your request. Canning: I did want -- well, one, tell you a little about Brian. He comes from a consulting firm that I'm familiar with in California. They have got a few offices in California and they are a real quality consulting firm. They do pretty much general plans Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 15 of 24 and specific plans. Specific plans for developers and, then, general plans for different cities and he pretty much just worked on general plans and -- like downtown plans -- mean just -- he's got the perfect skill set for -- for helping implement this Destination Downtown. I know we're really excited to find him. Good set of skills. I have -- the second thing is I want to apologize for not presenting this at the budget. I think Matt gave notice maybe two or three weeks before your budget hearings and at that time I think what was really motivating me to want to split that job was the CDBG part was I just -- I couldn't find somebody that wanted to do that -- have afull-time job that was part-time CDBG and part-time planner. It just wasn't working. So, I really wanted to split off that and it never occurred to me to combine the other two part-times. So, I guess I was partly hopeful that I would find somebody who never wanted to work full time, similar to Lori, she doesn't want to work full time. Brian I'm afraid I will lose him if I don't have part time -- if I don't have full-time employment at some point. I could probably keep him for a year, maybe, but I will probably lose him if I don't give him full- time employment after awhile. So, those -- again, I wanted to apologize for having to propose a budget amendment and Idon't -- I'm not sure I have done one before. might have done one a few years ago. I try not to. I really try and stay in my budget, but I guess I just wasn't quite thinking clearly when Matt left us. So, thank you for all your comments and I guess I will work on something to bring to you at a later date it sounds like. If that's the way it works. I have forgotten. Rountree: Works for me. Canning: Okay. And let me know if you have comments on any of those items in my strategic plan or you want to know more, I would be happy to let you know. de Weerd: Anna, I guess I would ask in the Destination Downtown Anna has put together a very Comprehensive Plan and detailed listing that she extracted out of the plan and tried put it into manageable format to better assign some of the tasks or areas to all areas of the city, because it does reach into all areas and if you could get that -- I know you're getting it out to the department directors, but to City Council as well to seek any feedback comments and once we can wrap all of those comments together we will meet with the MDC project coordinator to discuss those. There are items that I don't know that the consultants realize that the city already does that's in process or it's completed and so some of that needs to be cleaned up so that the citizens that are getting involved in these steering committees are not so overwhelmed and intimidated by this -- this huge list of to do's when some of it has already been done. t would invite you to, please, take a look at that, give comments, and, then, we can include those in the dialogue that we have with MDC. I'll make sure I send it out. de Weerd: Okay. Canning: But it will probably be Friday. Hopefully. de Weerd: Thank you. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 16 of 24 Canning: Thank you. D. Public Works Department: Ten Mile Road/Franklin Road to Cherry Lane Project Close Out de Weerd: Okay. Item 9-D is our Public Works Department. Boyd: Good evening, Madam Mayor, City Council. My name is John Boyd, I was a project manager on the Ten Mile, Franklin to Cherry project, and I'm here tonight to present that close out as per the new purchasing policy requirements. de Weerd: Thank you, Tom. Boyd: Public Works project inspector was Murray Jones. This is another joint project between ACHD and the City of Meridian. Construction started on December 18th, 2009. Substantial completion was achieved on August 24th, 2010. The project consisted of installation of the re-use water line in Ten Mile Road from a connection to the re-use line that was installed with the interchange project and it was left just south of Cherry Lane. I'm also working on the next leg of that, which will complete this backbone for our reuse. It's scheduled to start in May and -- or, excuse me, in February -- or March 1 and should be done by May to complete your goal of feeding that landscaping up at the interchange with re-use water. Same wastewater facilities were installed to the east on Franklin for the next project that we will be doing and that will serve people to the north and south of Franklin Road. Other domestic water facilities were installed to accommodate the increased width of Ten Mile and to allow extension -- excuse me. Yeah. Extension for future facilities. Some of the project highlights -- we had a contractor change about two months into the project when Sommer Construction went out of business. Nampa Paving, the general contractor, selected Brown Construction, they thought they would meet their needs of getting that project completed, they were under pretty hard time constraints by ACRD and they worked out. The final project cost was $624,365.54, which was under the original budget, as well as under the original amount that you all approved for that project. There was six change orders totaling a total of 38,200 dollars. This amounted to an increase of 6.37 percent over the original contracted amount. Two property owners reimbursed the city a total of 26,000 dollars for water and sewer services stubbed to their properties. That's all that I really have for you for highlights of the project. I'll stand for any questions you may have. Be more than pleased to. de Weerd: Thank you. John, any questions from Council? Bird: I have none, Mayor. Rountree: I have none. Bird: Good job. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 17 of 24 de Weerd: Thank you. Boyd: Thank you very much. Rountree: Great to have it done. Boyd: Yeah, it is. Want to finish Franklin now. Thank you very much. E. Police Department Report: Discussion Regarding Revisions to the Animal Control Code de Weerd: Thank you. Item 9-E is our police department report regarding revisions to the animal control code. Tracy? You can do it there or here. Okay. Basterrechea: I think Mr. Nary will be able to help a little more on a lot of this stuff, because a lot of it was just cleaning up code to make it more enforceable. But from the police department perspective one of the big things that we wanted to do was we wanted to change the animal at large or the dog at large code from making it an automatic misdemeanor when somebody's dog gets out, changing it to an infraction, like a traffic ticket and have it graduated that on the third offense, then, it becomes a misdemeanor. The reason we like that better is, one, it really does make it easier for us as far as enforcement goes, as far as time and money put into this and we really don't see the fairness in somebody getting a misdemeanor charge on a first offense when their dog's out. You know, if it hasn't attacked somebody, if it's just running loose, and it has caused a lot of headaches over the years that when you tell somebody that that is a misdemeanor and they have to appear in court and that they could go to jail, trust me, they are definitely going to fight it no matter what and it's just caused us a lot of headaches over time and, then, we look at the fact that somebody's dog gets out the first time and they get a misdemeanor and they have got to show that on an application for a job every time they go and even though it's at dog a large people look at, you know, you have been convicted of a misdemeanor. So, we would like -- we worked with the city attorneys to changing that to more of an infraction, a graduated penalty, so that if we do have repeat offenders, then, we do have that hammer to come down on them and charge the misdemeanor with. The other things that, you know, we looked at were taking care of -- of requirements of removal of dog feces. You know, we get people all the time walking their dogs and they let their dogs go to the bathroom on the sidewalk or whatever and they will leave it and there is really not a lot of recourse trying to charge them with a littering charge becomes. real convoluted and this code really shores that up and you would be amazed at how many times we either get called on that or that we end up dealing with that. So, Mr. Nary can probably talk to anymore of the other areas in there or I can stand for questions on what we have discussed so far as far as the dog at large. Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, as Deputy Chief Basterrechea said -- I mean we started -- we started this project on the issue of the dog at large. You had a couple of folks come in front of you that had concerns about the misdemeanor. We did Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 18 of 24 contact the city of Boise, they were uncomfortable at that particular point, they had somewhere in the area of 47 to 57 outstanding dog at large tickets. So, they weren't real comfortable in simply just dismissing all of those. They would work with those folks, they were willing to consider bond forfeitures, which is -- de Weerd: How many? Nary: Between 47 and 57, something like that. I can't remember the exact number. Quite a few. I mean there is a lot of loose dogs in this town and so they were not comfortable -- Zaremba: Do we have that many dogs licensed is the question. Nary: Probably about 47 to 57 is what I would guess. But they were willing to consider a bond forfeiture as a remedy for those folks. That's an opportunity to post the bond. It's like posting a fine, but it does not count as a misdemeanor. Bond is forfeited, no conviction is entered, so there is a remedy for that. I did receive a contact from -- if you recall there was a young lady that, essentially, took the ticket for her mother's dog, so the mother did contact me, I connected her with the Boise city prosecutor and they did offer that opportunity, then, so I think that case got resolved and -- so, that's where we started and as you well know, Mrs. Kane from my office doesn't like to just fix one thing, if we are going to fix it we are going to fix it and Mrs. Kane tries to address a variety of the problems that we have had and if we are going to bring it back to you we want to make sure we are trying to address a variety of concerns and sold as Deputy Chief Basterrechea said, we have this other issue with people out walking dogs and sort of leaving their dog's deposits all over town and not having a real clear code of how to address that, so wanted to address that. We have some other issues that are addressed in the code that we have had some discussions with the planning department as well. We have people that want to keep chickens in the city and we don't find that to be problematic and, actually, people -- de Weerd: Chickens? Nary: -- for a variety of reasons. Besides eggs, they are a good bug control and so there is some other reasons that people will keep chickens and they are generally not problematic -- the problem -- pardon me? de Weerd: They are agood -- what did you say? Nary: Bug control. de Weerd: Bugs? Nary: They are good for bugs. They are good for eating bugs around your house, so they are good for bug control. And, of course, the eggs are another -- another reason. The complaints we get many times is about roosters and so what we were trying to do is Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 19 of 24 address roosters through this animal ordinance, because you don't need a rooster unless you want more chickens. So, we don't really see this to, I guess, encourage the keeping of roosters, because they do cause a lot of noise and -- what was the term, Anna, they used for -- decrowed roosters. You can actually -- you can get roosters that are decrowed, so they don't crow, but from what we were told they make a much more horrible sound than crowing and so we just were wanting to discourage the accumulation of roosters in the city, but not the keeping of chickens. But we also have other types of people that are keeping large amounts of -- quantities of animals, domesticated animals, rabbits and those kinds of things. So, we were trying to address a number of different things. If you look through the ordinance that Mrs. Kane provided on your packet it was, again, trying to address the new code, the infraction for the first two offences of dogs at large, prohibiting, basically, the behavior of allowing your animal to simply use the entire city and other people's property for their own and, then, creating some better process. For vicious dogs we have -- we created a vicious dog ordinance about six years ago. We haven't had to enact it I think more than once, but we wanted to clarify some of the process in the code. We have actually had it used by other cities based on our model, but we wanted to clean up a little bit of that and, then, we also wanted to start limiting the types of livestock that you can have within the city, so there is a variety of different parts here. I don't know if planning had any over additional feedback. We think we could put it on for a first reading if you're comfortable, if you would like an opportunity. I know this may be the first time you have seen it, so if you would like to wait until next week and give us direction on putting it on for a first reading, we can do that. If you'd like to get public input you certainly are welcome to invite that like you have done on other ones. I'm not certain the pulse of our community on whether or not roosters are a big deal or whether some of these other types of issues that this is addressing are going to be of concern I don't know. Rountree: Madam Mayor? de Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: Bill, there is still a lot of infractions in here that result in a misdemeanor and I don't know where we draw the line. I think anybody who is crazy enough to harbor a rabid animal probably ought to be given a misdemeanor, but excess dogs or fraudulent dog license, I don't know, I don't know if we should have that staggered approach into some of these issues or not. I'm not sure that they merit necessarily the full court appearance for a resolve. And certainly, you know, it seems -- we have a 13 page ordinance on how to deal with people's personal property and Ijust -- that just gets me all fuzzed up. Zaremba: Madam Mayor? de Weerd: Mr. Zaremba. Zaremba: As kind of a side issue or a related issue, is there any way to get veterinarians involved in making sure that animals are licensed? I don't -- you know, if a Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 20 of 24 doctor discovers somebody that I think has abused they have to report it to somebody. Can we make veterinarians report unlicensed animals? Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council -- Zaremba: Or do we want to? Nary: -- Council Member Zaremba, actually, veterinarians -- and I think, chief, some of those -- don't we also use the local pet stores as well to sell the licenses? Basterrechea: They sell our licenses. Nary: So, they actually sell them for us. Zaremba: Okay. Nary: So, they don't -- they aren't required to require people to do it and they don't require people to license it as part of their -- because they are -- I mean it is a private business, but we do sell them, at least, so they have access through both their veterinarians or in PetCo and -- I think it's PetCo. Basterrechea: Petco and several of the local vets. All the local vets we provide with licenses and they sell them for us. Zaremba: Okay. That helps. Hoaglun: Madam Mayor. Bill, question about rabbits. Some people have rabbits as pets and they have them indoors, they have them run outdoors, but they stay outside in a cage. You know, under our ordinance that -- which are housed outdoors and/or in outdoor enclosures, such pens, et cetera. And I know if you're breeding rabbits, you know, for fryers and one thing, that to me would meet a definition of livestock -- I mean you're doing something as opposed to a pet, which you have a rabbit for the kids. Is there a way to distinguish that difference? Nary: You know, I know we talked about this in regards to -- to chickens and we sort of touched on rabbits, but I don't recall if we had a discussion specifically. Canning: The discussion we had on rabbits, Council Member Hoaglun -- and perhaps I don't understand rabbits, but I thought, when kept as pets, were inside also. de Weeds: Huh-uh. Canning: No? Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 21 of 24 Hoaglun: Not necessarily. Some do. But others put out at night in the cage and -- like the dogs, you know, at night it goes outside. Yeah, it can come in the house, but at night it goes outside. Canning: I think that would be the difference is if you treat it like a pet that comes inside and outside -- I mean most people don't bring their cows inside and -- Basterrechea: Actually, where I come from -- Zaremba: Too much information. Canning: I think it's -- you know, it is difficult to write animal regulation ordinances and we could put an exception in for pets to say if it's a pet and, then, you know, somebody who has got a rabbit can come in and say it's a pet and they have got 5,000 rabbits that they sell that we could probably figure out that they weren't telling the truth, but it's a difficult -- it's a difficult ordinance. Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, you probably may recall that Council Members Hoaglun may not -- it may have been prior his tenure here, but about every couple years we have this discussion on how we deal with people that want to keep snakes and spiders and exotic animals and -- I mean some of them have to be licensed, some don't. Some think pigs are pets, some think pigs are livestock. Some think goats are pets, some think goats are livestock. I mean -- so I mean I would agree it's very difficult and, you know, I'm so grateful for Mrs. Kane, because she is very persistent at wanting to try to figure out exactly how we can address these, because we do receive a number of complaints and, you know, some of them are situations where, in my opinion, we are still a city in transition between rural and urban and there are areas within our own city that are still rural within the urban fabric of the rest of the city. So, there are people that are keeping what are traditional sort of farm animals on larger lots than a normal subdivision lot, because it may have been the family farm that's now been subdivided in to the remainder of the subdivision and they are still maintaining horses and other farm animals and the like. So, trying to address that, you know, if all -- all we feel comfortable at the moment in addressing is chickens, because we want to make it clear that chickens are allowed and we would like to make it clear that roosters aren't allowed, I know people do raise roosters for -- for eating and Iknow -- but I don't think that's as common in our community or at least is common here with chickens, so I don't know that if we -- if we just decided to take the bite out of chickens and roosters, that we need to address rabbits -- de Weerd: I glad you said that differently. Nary: -- and if you want to simply -- if you want to not address rabbits now, because -- would agree with Councilman Hoaglun that there are circumstances where people do keep rabbits outside, they certainly can be maintained outside safely and they can be maintained as a pet outside and it is difficult to distinguish between one or two rabbits versus 25 or 30 or 40 or 50 rabbits. And why would people keep that. Predominately Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 22 of 24 those are going be for sale and the like, but we don't address every animal in the world in this ordinance, so I mean certainly if -- if the comfort level of the Council is let's address this and, you know, sort of one animal at a time, that's fine. Again, I don't know that we are getting -- and Chief Basterrechea could probably tell us better, but I'm not aware that we are getting a lot of complaints about noise from goats or noise from sheep, mostly what you're getting is -- if you're getting complaints to the police about -- about animals, especially livestock type of animals, it's usually dust and smell and if we need to address -- and we don't have a tremendous amount of horses and cows in the city, but if that's something we need to take another look at, we could certainly do that. I think we wanted to make sure, if nothing else, you brought the -- the dog offenses back, the leash offenses, the licensing offenses, those type of things back in front of you in a timely manner and if we need to just hold off on the others at the moment, that's certainly fine. Rountree: Madam Mayor? de Weerd: Mr. Rountree. Rountree: There is one provision in here that talks about the relinquishment of living or dead dogs. It makes the disposal there the responsibility of the police department subject to a fee. I don't know that we have a fee established, so I don't know what that fee would be, but in another section it talks about you can't leave dead animals -- Section O of one of the later paragraphs on your premise that's legally owned by whoever owns the animal, which made me start thinking about this whole ordinance. A good share of it deals with dogs and, then, some of it just talks about animals and, then, it's a misdemeanor to leave a dead animal on your property, does that mean somebody's pet hamster or rat or whatever that typically gets buried out in the garden when they succumb, which is probably an appropriate way to deal with it. Is that legal and would it have been ratcheted up could you bury Buffy out there if Buffy happened to pass away. We just create all kinds of issues when we start messing with this and we have gone through all of this, as you said, Bill, time and time again and there is no easy answer, but I think the more ordinances that we make the more gray areas we create. Nary: Well, as a lawyer I love that, but I do agree with your concern that -- I mean -- well, for example -- and what you pointed out, I mean even in the improper disposal of a dead animal, it is my opinion, certainly burying your dog in your yard is not an improper disposal of a dead animal. I think that's what most people do, unless they take it to the vet. I have a rabbit buried in my side yard, so if that's improper, Iguess I -- Rountree: Well, we can call the police chief now for the dogs specifically and the police chief gets rid of it for you, so -- Nary: And, actually, the police want to maintain that. I mean they actually want to allow that to remain, because, again, there is a health issue and a health risk as well with people not having an ability to disposed of animals. But maybe what would be best and I'm going to have Mrs. Kane come the next time we have -- in two years when we have Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 23 of 24 this discussion again I'm going to have Mrs. Kane come. But what I think what we need to do is I think we need to deal with the problem first, which is the dog issues in regards to animals at large, people not cleaning up after their animals, we have some licensing issues that we want to address with that as well that's not part of the ordinance, that would come separately, but there are some licensing and fees and things like that that are still not getting addressed properly or at least that we think satisfactorily. So, why don't we -- why don't we at least address that issue first and we can deal with livestock separately, because I would agree with you, Council Member Rountree, you know, it -- the message gets mixed sometimes to folks when we try to take too large of jump all at once and if our intent really is -- and, really, how we started and, then, this particular go around was to try to deal with the animals at large and the licensing issues and things, if we could stick with that first, then, probably is the -- the bulk of the issues or problems or calls that we get are related to those types of things. We are not addressing cats, because I know that's the next biggest thing and every third call is either licensing cats or leashing cats and I don't think we want to go there either, so -- but I think if we would bring back to you just addressing the dog issues and the dog licensing and the dogs at large and the people cleaning up and their behaviors, we can probably deal with the livestock issue separately and gather a little more data about what would make some sense as we become less rural and more urban in our community, what would make more sense going forward and we can bring that both through planning, because planning will address that sometimes in the annexation arena, as well as from the police animal control side. So, if that would make some sense, we can bring it back probably in two weeks for you to look at again and see if we just captured really what the -- what the core problem is today and, then, we can bring that forward for reading in front of you. Rountree: Works for me. de Weerd: Okay. So, Council, would you prefer to see it next, then, as a first reading document? Rountree: Yes. Bird: Yes. de Weerd: Okay. Thank you for the can you opened. Okay. Nary: Notice I did not once say who let the dogs out. de Weerd: You just ruined that. Okay. We are at the end of our agenda and in the nick of time. I would entertain a motion. Rountree: Madam Mayor, I move we adjourn. Zaremba: Second. Meridian City Council Workshop November 9, 2010 Page 24 of 24 de Weerd: All those in favor say aye. All ayes. Motion carries. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:28 P.M. (AUDIO RECORDING ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) ~/ MAYOR TA die WEERD ~~, ~y ~/ ~'~ U~ o~~ rF C;E F d $~A~ "% 9~ ~sT ~s~ ~ Q`r ~~° '~%,,,~~ovN-r~ ,;,,,~~~~, ~,~~ l d DATE APPROVED CITY CLERK