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Powell: Yes, sir.
Centers: That's for Mr. Palmer's information.
Borup: Okay.
Centers: Mr. Chairman, I'll make a stab at it. I would like to make a motion that we
approved CUP 03-038, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a tri-plex in an R-15
zone for Troy Palmer Tri-plex by Troy Palmer. 1236 East 2 '/z Street, including all staff
comments and adding site-specific Comment Number 4 that applicant to submit his
alternative compliance proposal prior to the City Council Meeting to the staff for their
review, which would include the fence. End of motion.
Rohm: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed. Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Borup: Any questions on -- this recommendation will go forward to City Council and
there will be another Public Hearing at City Council. Mr. Stephens, right now our motion
was to -- that there would be a fence in.
Item 13. Public Hearing AZ 03-020 Request for annexation and zoning of 1.13
acres from R-6 to L-O zones for proposed Office Jet Subdivision by
Wardle and Associates - 1975 North Locust Grove Road:
Item 14. Public Hearing PFP 03-003 Request for Preliminary /Final Plat
approval of 4 building lots on 1.13 acres in a proposed L-O zone for
proposed Office Jet Subdivision by Wardle and Associates - 1975 North
Locust Grove Road:
Borup: Our last project is Item Numbers 13 and 14, Public Hearing AZ 03-020, request
for annexation and zoning of 1.13 acres from R-6 to L-O zones for the proposed Office
Jet Subdivision by Wardle and Associates. It's at 1975 North Locust Grove.
Accompanying that is Public Hearing PFP, which is Preliminary/Final Plat, 03-003, for
the same project. I'd like to open both these hearings at this time and start with the staff
report.
Kirkpatrick: Chairman, Members of the Commission, this application is a request for
zoning for 1.13 acres from what's currently zoned R-6 within the City of Meridian to L-O.
There is also an application for -- oh, I'm sorry, I want to make a correction. I had the
dash here, but there was a city zoning. It's R-6 county zoning. Excuse me to L-O
zoning. The applicant also has a preliminary and a Final Plat for four commercial
building lots. The subject property is located on the west side of Locust Grove Road
about a quarter mile north of Fairview. You can see an aerial. This is, actually, an older
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aerial. I'm going to go through some of the significant points this evening. The
designation for the subject property is light residential on the Comprehensive Plan, but
staff feels -- and we highlighted this in the staff report -- the policies of the plan and
existing conditions surrounding the subject property warrant the applicant's approval --
or recommendation for approval for the Rezone to L-O. I'm going to go through some of
the surrounding uses of properties. To the north of the subject property we have an
office building, which is zoned L-O, to the south of the subject property, we have a
single family residential subdivision, which is, zoned R-6. This is the Doris Subdivision.
To the east of the subject property, we have Locust Grove Road. On the east side of
Locust Grove we have Avis Plaza Subdivision, which is a commercial subdivision, and
there is a mini storage there immediately to the east of Locust Grove Road and subject
property. To the west of the subject property, we have -- again, Doris Subdivision. The
applicant has worked with staff throughout this application process and they have also
had a neighborhood meeting and submitted a petition from all adjoining neighbors and
residents of Doris Subdivision in favor of the proposed zone change and Preliminary
Plat. I'm going to point to you -- I'm going to, actually, read to you some language from
the Comprehensive Plan which we feel is supportive of this zone change and this is,
actually, on Page 2 of your staff report and I'll go ahead and close this. The
Comprehensive Land use map depicts desired feature land use categories and their
location within the impact area. The areas depicted on the map are conceptual and,
therefore, will require further analysis prior to the creation of the zoning map. This
outlines the Comprehensive Plan land use as being more of a guide for decision making
and I do also want to point out that while we are recommending approval of this zone
change. I want to caution you all that this is a new interpretation of Comprehensive
Plan policies and that while we are supportive of the interpretation in this instance, we --
if this is approved we want it to be noted that we see this as only being appropriate in
very limited cases. In this case they have cooperation from the neighbors. The
surrounding land uses are conducive to this proposed zone change and it is
immediately adjacent to Comprehensive Plan zoning -- to the north we have an
industrial zoning immediately adjacent to the subject property. Excuse me. Office. We
have a n office designation i mmediately a djacent to the n orth o f the s ubject p roperty.
What we are, essentially, doing is sort of bumping -- bumping that zoning designation
down to wrap in another piece of property. We just wanted to caution you that we were
taking this seriously and it's not something we would recommend for every application
that would come through and are there any questions of staff?
Borup: Just a clarification. Did you say that all property owners signed a petition
supporting this?
Kirkpatrick: And I'll have the applicant speak to that. It's -- I believe they have
signatures from all residents of Doris Subdivision and also adjacent property owners.
We will let the applicant --
Borup: Okay because that was not in our packet. I --
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Kirkpatrick: The applicant submitted a copy of that -- of that petition with their
application.
Borup: Well, that -- I mean if that's -- yes, we didn't have it in our packet, but that
probably explains why there is no neighbors here tonight.
Kirkpatrick: Right. That was actually a critical part of kind of winning over staff on this
application was that they had -- they had that support of the neighbors.
Borup: Okay. Mr. Wardle.
Centers: And what you said, in a nutshell, was the deviation to the Comp Plan is a
case-by-case basis.
Kirkpatrick: Right.
Centers: Of course, 1.13 acres, your -- your memo should say request for annexation
and zoning or did you cover that because it just states request for zoning.
Kirkpatrick: Right. We want to go ahead and, actually, officially make that correction to
the record.
Centers: Right. That's all. I thought we agreed not to start any more Public Hearings
after 11:00.
Borup: I thought it was 12:00.
Wardle: I think that clock is fast.
Powell: Chairman Borup, Members of the Commission, I think we just change
Jonathan's or Jake's name, I'm not sure, to just last applicant and that will satisfy that.
Borup: Every meeting.
Zaremba: I was going to ask him if he had done something to be last on the agenda
every time.
Wardle: I hope not. I may have to rectify that in the future. For the record, my name is
Jon Wardle. My address is 4940 East Mill Station Drive, Boise. 83716. I appreciate the
work that staff has put into this. Just to give you a little bit of background, we knew that
this was a deviation, at least from the Camp Plan land use map, and so we spent our
time meeting with staff to discuss the issues. We took it one step further. We held a
neighbor meeting with the owners of Walnut Grove, which is the townhouse project
which is on Willow Brook, so the road that just comes right in the north and in there to
the townhouses. We are going to take access from this project onto Willow Brook and
so we won't be accessing directly to Locust Grove and that addresses some issues in
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terms of complex. There is an existing road there. We worked with them to get across-
access, because they had a landscape strip that comes there and so we will be
accessing across that and they have granted that access to us. We also, because we
are part of the Doris Subdivision, which is a county plat, zoned R-6, we were part of
their CC&R's as well, so we went and met -- actually went door to door talking with the
neighbors and got a majority of them to sign allowing us to, in essence, opt out of the
CC&R's and agreeing, in concept, with what we are trying to do here, which is do a
small office development. The neighbor just to the due west of us -- we are working
with him on fencing issues, as well as on -- let's see if this works.
Borup: There is a house on this -- I don't see a house on that lot, but I assume there
must be one here.
Wardle: There is. I think this is the roofline right there. It's kind of hard to see. They
have a pasture back behind. We have a number of trees right here and we are working
with them to relocate those trees onto their property, instead of just cutting them down,
and I -- I'll look for a nod here, but I think we have worked with a forester on compliance
in making that work. We worked directly with this neighbor as well. We also sent out
notifications to everyone on that mailing letting them know what we were doing. We just
felt it was important to inform those that were directly related and do our homework up
front on this project. The type of development that we are doing, just to be very clear, is
an office development. The owner of this office, which is right here, which is zone L-O,
is going to be building his own building here as well and relocating here and the quality
of the project will be similar to, if not exceeding, the existing office building. I'm not --
don't know if staff has a picture of that currently, but it's a very nice office building and
he will retain ownership of the existing one, as well as control the development here.
We have reviewed the staff report. We are supportive of the comments and
recommendations there. We feel that this will be a nice addition to this neighborhood
and the fact that we can take access to an existing project, which has an office right
there as well. We feel, actually, great that that is to Locust Grove and not put anymore
more direct trips right to it, but at a controlled access point as well. I would be willing to
stand for any questions you might have or discussions regarding any issue of the
application or things that staff or ourselves have brought up this evening.
Borup: Questions from the Commission? You said you got the majority of the
homeowner's approval. Did all the adjoining homeowners sign?
Wardle: Yes, they did.
Borup: Okay.
Zaremba: You're going to preserve the existing sidewalk on Locust Grove?
Wardle: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Zaremba, yes, we are. ACHD has recently done
that improvement on Locust Grove. It's athree-lane road with sidewalks on both sides.
One of the requirements that they had was we have three existing curb cuts and we will
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be replacing those, we will be ripping them out, and vertical curb, so it's -- there won't be
any access to Locust Grove, so, yes, the sidewalk will be, actually, upgraded at those
locations and maintained. Then, there will be similar landscape buffer as what we have
done to the north will be across the front here with more plantings and that type of thing.
Zaremba: Okay.
Borup: Any other questions from any Commissioners? It makes it easy when you --
when you have everything taken care of like that. I can't tell you how -- I'm pleasantly
surprised that there are no neighbors here. You need to be commended for that.
Wardle: Thank you.
Centers: I move we close the Public Hearing.
Zaremba: Second.
Borup: Motion and second to close the Public Hearing. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Centers: Mr. Chairman, I move we approve Item 13 on our agenda -- or recommend
approval, AZ 03-020, request for annexation and zoning of 1.13 acres from R-6 to L-O
zones for proposed Office Jet Subdivision by Wardle and Associates at 1975 North
Locust Grove Road. Including all staff comments from their memo showing a date of
September 4tb and received by the City Clerk on September 2nd
Zaremba: Second.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Centers: Additional, I would like to --
Borup: Now, did we clarify -- I mean -- that's just for annexation. You said in that your
motion.
Center: Yes. Right.
Borup: So I guess that takes care of it right there. Okay.
Centers: Item 14. I would like to recommend approval, which is PFP, preliminary and
Final Plat, 03-003, request for a preliminary and Final Plat approval of four building lots
on 1.13 acres in a proposed L-O zone for proposed Office Jet Subdivision by Wardle
and Associates at 1975 North Locust Grove Road. Including all staff comments from
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the memo showing hearing date September 4`h and received by the City Clerk on
September 2nd
Zaremba: I'll second that.
Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed? Thank you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Borup: Thank you. One final thing before we dismiss, Commissioners, and that's just
maybe some informational and, Mrs. Powell, did you want to cover that?
Powell: Sure.
Borup: We are talking about trying to spread the load a little bit more on our hearings.
Powell: Chairman Borup, Commissioners, we did speak at the end of the last hearing
about agendas in general and the desire expressed by some of the Commission
members to kind of spread the load more equally between the first hearing of the month
and the third hearing of the month. As I traveled home that night at, what, 1:00 in the
morning, it occurred to me that it wasn't -- the only equitable and fair way that I could
think of to do that, to decide who went on the first and who went on the third, was to
really just to have a separate cutoff. That you would have a cutoff on the 15th of the
month and we would also -- for those of you who don't know, currently we have a cutoff
on the 15th of the month, we take the first six projects or seven projects, depending on
Keith's mood for the day -- or the chairman's mood for the day. We put them on the first
agenda and, then, any application received after that would go on the second agenda.
What I would propose, instead, is that we have a cutoff on the 15`h that would go to the
first agenda, the cutoff on like the first of the month would go to the second agenda.
There is going to be a difficult transition time there as people get used -- probably just
that first month. The outstanding question is how many I -- how many projects do we
put on those agendas. If we -- if we say, okay, we are going to take the first seven that
we received on the 15`h and put them on the first agenda and these other three that we
received on the 15d' go on the second agenda. Then, the cutoff on the first comes and
we have got seven more projects, then, there are three projects that are going out to the
next month. Then, we have problems with getting them to you in a timely fashion as
mandated by state code. Some jurisdictions choose to ignore that. I have never quite
figured out how they do that, but there are time limits that we are kind of close to
already. So -- but there is concern that if we add a second cutoff date it could
potentially increase the number of applications. It's not likely to decrease them anyway,
so we are not -- one would think we would have the same number of applications, but I
suppose there is a potential that we could get in more.
Rohm: So, it can't be just purely arbitrary?