HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002 01-08 SpecialMeridian City Council Special Meeting January 8, 2002
The special meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 5:40 P.M.
on Tuesday, January 8, 2002, by Mayor Robert Corrie.
Members Present: Mayor Robert Corrie, Keith Bird, Bill Nary, Cherie
McCandless, and Tammy de Weerd.
Others Present: Gary Smith, Mike Worley, Bill Nichols, Stacy Kilchenmann, and
Dave Bowers.
Item 1. Roll-call Attendance:
X Tammy de Weerd X Bill Nary
X Cherie McCandless X Keith Bird
X Mayor Robert Corrie
Item 3. Presentation by Mr. John Luthy of Strategic Planning, Goals,
and Objectives for the City of Meridian:
Corrie: We will be discussing strategic planning and goals and objections to the
City of Meridian with John Luthy.
Luthy: Thank you Mayor. Let me begin by noting that the agenda memo, that I
handed out to you, basically the first thing I’d like to do is part my agenda just
very quickly as I did last time to give you a very quick status report. That is of
which also included in the memorandum. Seven out of ten departments have
completed the planning work; we’re pretty much done. Now it’s just polishing
over the weeks ahead, but basically all their sections are completed. The other
three departments have one section each to do, so they are closing in on it
quickly. Still generally good cooperation, quick collaboration and certainly
commitments, and so I think we should be able to get her knocked out by mid
January. I’m hoping for the 11th
that’s why I’m still kind of a shoulder behind
them pretty hard, so I think with things with plenty of polished time. Where we
really need to turn our attention now is I mentioned, as I’ve talked to some of you
individually as I’ve been meeting with you independently is to begin the city wide
roll, we really need to now start looking at what the city (inaudible) is for city
government, with the vision of the city from the mayor and city council is, and
what the operating values are that you want to identify. Most of that we will do in
our one day planning session, I think that we can get that scheduled tonight that
will also cover our agenda, I was going to see if we could look over one of
calendars and get that scheduled we should be able to get that finished. The
other key part, which I mentioned it in the last meeting, is to identify the major
challenge areas that the mayor and city council believe that the city is facing.
Once those are identified then we will do that, hopefully a little bit before that
planning session, then during that session, that full day meeting, we really be
drilling down on those and defining those and being able to write those. So then
the front part of your plan you will have a section that has the major challenge
areas and that’s one of the things that most of you want to publicize and saying
these are the major things that this city is facing from challenges. Here are the
goals associated with those challenges and here are some of the general
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strategies we plan to take associated with those challenges. Again most of that
work will be done probably in the afternoon of that planning, I want to call it a
retreat, but that planning session, but I certainly would like some of that work be
done ahead of time, beginning this evening. So, that’s kind of where we are in
terms of the status, I think we are moving pretty well. Let me go over if I could
and just quickly move forward cause we are going to run out of time. The
schedule for the next several weeks are, this is certainly tentative, this is kind of
what I have penciled out. To have all the departments plans that come from the
operating departments complete by the 15th
with my target now being the 11th
which is this coming Friday. Hopefully today we will have the full day planning
session for the council and the mayor and the directors scheduled by sometime
late January. I’d love to have it in January if we can squeeze it in. I guess we
will have to look at our calendars to see if that’ll work for us. Then during this
time prior to that and then during that session to actually identify by the end of
January the major challenge areas that you feel as with the directors and
yourselves feel are the major challenge areas that this city is facing. Put those in
priority order and then basically task the directors and myself and put it all into
format and feed it back to you for editing and review, which we will do a lot of the
off line work, but you are the ones that have to say, these are the things were
putting on the wall as our major challenges that this community is facing. So
hopefully that can be done during that planning session. If we can do some of
that work off line before that session we will be able to fly through that in one day.
Most groups take two days to do this, we are trying to squeeze it down into one
day plus some short planning sessions like this one. So hopefully we can do
some work offline and Ill be feeding you some examples of stuff tonight hopefully
that will help and then with some other memos that will be out to you early next
week. I talked to Anita and she and I will be meeting later in the week. Probably
six weeks I asked that we can get an editing team, and there was a team that
takes all this raw information to be compiled and puts into a nice format. I’ll help
format it but we figure out tabs and binders and all that existing stuff so we are
going to meet on that in the next few days. We have had several people that
have volunteered for that but we need to pull that back together and we will do
that within the next week. I hope we can continue having individual meetings
with the mayor and the city council. That’s something I’d like to do and haven’t
had one with the attorney yet, so I’d like to schedule some time if that’s okay. I’ll
try to give you a call Bill and see if we can schedule some time to do that.
Nichols: Sure
Luthy: That would work. So I will do that. I would hope that once we have the
planning off site one day. On (inaudible) planning session, within a week after
that we can have the major challenge areas, the citywide mission, the vision, the
operating values and the goals of the city drafted for your review and it will be a
quick turn around. My belief is we can do that within one week. So that’s the
plan by the first week of February to have that back to you, and so you can look
at it and we can maybe have some short sessions on it. I’ll leave that up to you
all if we still need another half day or something but if we can get it done in short
sessions then what the heck. I call it the big book and once we get the big book
all compiled all the department plans in it plus the role up plan then its coming
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together. It’s going to end up being 150 pages, based on what the works the
departments have done and the work that we will do together. So it’s going to be
a pretty good sized book, so by the second week of February we should now if
we will need another planning session to polish and refine and do whatever it is
we need to do. Also Stacy and I talked in brief, but Mayor I think that Stacy you
and I and whomever else you would like to include, probably should begin talking
in early February about the budget tie in. Stacy has mentioned to some of you
on the council already. Stacy and I agree with her doesn’t want to go back and
change the budget format she has already created, but just pick out what kind of
attachments to that we can use that ties into the strategic planning and so that
we have measurability. So that there at accountability with these budgets. So
we will start looking at that and probably talk about that a little bit in our planning
session in late January. I would believe that we could complete and have the
complete plan in one volume ready to hand out, would it be still editing or
polishing but ready to read by the third week of February.
Corrie: I don’t see any reason why we can’t do that.
Luthy: We can probably do it sooner if we really wanted to, but I’ve been told
that the budget process starts picking up a little bit of steam in February so I
think we need to have it pretty much together. The department budgets will be
together, that’s the ones that you need to be concerned about also in terms of
tying things together so we should be in pretty good shape. The question was
brought up last time, and when we talked a little bit about are we going to tie in
city community wide activities. I think we should still talk about that and how we
might want to do that, we can talk about some variations of that on our meeting
in December. What I probably do is suggest you think about that a little bit cause
there is so many different ways to do it and then when we will talk about it in our
planning get together toward the end of the month, on how we might want to do
that. Now I mentioned how there are several ways it’s been done in the past, so
we can certainly do that. To me I think that’s what we can pull together in
January and February should be able to pull it together nicely. We’ll have a great
time.
Corrie: Okay John in our staff meeting today, our department heads were
concerned about tie-ins between what the council and the mayor has as far as
goals and visions and what the department heads know. This one will be the
time will be on that (inaudible).
Luthy: Exactly, to be frank I have never seen a lack of tie in. Anywhere I have
ever been, on any level. Usually you all are in pretty much in touch with what the
departments want to do, I think what it comes down to is when you select the
major goal areas or activity, excuse me the challenges. You might want to
showcase different challenges that maybe one of the department directors might
want to and that’s obviously going to be a negotiation I suppose. If they feel
really strongly about that this is a major challenge area and they are saying nah
it’s not as major. That’s what that day is all I about I suppose. Main thing is get
them all up on the wall and then decide on where to put them. Or if, you know.
So, that one day is going to be a full, full day. The difficult with one day session
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is it usually takes about an hour to kind of spiral down into the work, and of
course everybody starts getting tired around two thirty or three, three thirty so we
are going have some compressed time to try to get our work done but that’s why
I’d like to get some of this work done at this time if we can at least of your
thoughts and some notes made so we can buzz right through. The departments
are going to be pretty much jammed up I think cause they have been working on
this for six or eight weeks so they are going to be on a ramp. So I think it’s going
to important for the council to be also pretty, you know to have at least thought
about the major challenges and I’m going to give you a bunch of stuff tonight to
kind of help you prepare, and I’ll be happy to meet with you individually and
whatever we can do to try and get our energy. Okay, any other questions?
Bird: John I got one. When did you want us to fax or email our goals and stuff to
be organized? Do you want us to wait and bring that forward when we have this
all day session?
Luthy: I’d love to see them, I’d love to compile them. I think it’s certainly fair
enough to kind of get them out there a little bit. If you want to hold them that’s
okay too. You know I think.
Bird: Which would work the best?
Luthy: You know I’ve seen it done both ways and I don’t think there is a best, it
all depends on if we can do what I hope, and most groups do, is we get the
mission the vision operating values done in the morning and then the whole
afternoon will be spent on goals and major challenge areas. The main thing I
would rather see, well both goals and challenge areas, those are areas that you
almost need to spend some time on offline in the next two or three weeks
because you really do need to kind of rub your chins a little bit and think about
what are the major challenges and what we are going to talk about tonight is the
category of those challenges. Once you get the juices flowing it might not take a
lot of time to come up with the ones that you think are the most critical and then
we will have to articulate them after that session so that we read the way they
want them to read. I would just assume ahead of time and have them in a file,
my speed up the process. I think the worst thing to do is walk in cold, then try to
jump start the process, I think that always tends to burn them out in about two
hours and then it’s lunch time. That’s kind of how group things work and I
certainly would like to have a lot of thinking done ahead of time, even if we had
another short session that’s all we focus on is just goals for an hour, I think we
would get a lot done. The departments on the average have had all their goals
figured out within an hour. Cause they know what they are, its just by articulating
them is I think is the challenge, so I don’t think that it’s going to take you very
long. (inaudible) might take a little longer but, other questions? All right, real
quickly I’d like to review something we talked about and I’ll stand up just real
quickly if I may. I’d like to talk about these issues and challenges, as you know
every department has been asked to identify the issues and challenges that they
face. Remember, and this is part of the work you’ll do to, is those issues and
challenges, I’m just going to (inaudible) discussion here. With over two
fundamental dimensions, that’s internal which has to do with the department
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itself and how it does it’s business and external which is basically the community.
In other words each department is saying holding up a mirror to itself and saying
how are we doing? There then looking at the community based on (inaudible)
and why they are there in the first place, saying what are the issues and
challenges out there. So if I’m in Mike’s department (inaudible) I’m looking at
what’s going on, there are issues out in the community that we are here to deal
with. So if I’m in Parks and say I’m Tom. I’m looking at the parks situation and
I’m saying what are the things that causes heartburn here in this community that
we really want to put our shoulder behind. I know that all of you already have
feelings and opinions about some of those things, so it’s a matter of just jotting
them down. The good thing to do though the reason I’m bringing this up again is
its’ nicer to work in (inaudible) two dimensions, so you can jump back and forth.
The question becomes what keeps us from doing our highest and best. Now
your (inaudible) is city wide, so you kind of have to hold up a mirror to city
government as an institution and say, what keeps us from doing our best work
here? Where do we have discipline acts? Where do you have things that don’t
work as well? If you have ever done anything in business called organizational
mapping, it’s when you go through in organization and figure out what works
really well and where do you have black holes and disconnects where things just
don’t work well and you find very quickly things that don’t work particularly well
but are easy to fix, all you have to do is get together, link arms and fix them. So
part of the question that you as a council and a mayor and a council have to
grapple over are what are the things about our government that we want to get
arms around and fix? I tell everybody and I’ll tell you same as I’ve told the
departments it’s always better and in their case it’s better that they work on what
they need to work on then you looking at it, now same thing like the legislature I
tell the state departments, you better get in there and hold a mirror up to
yourselves instead of having the legislature tell you by golly you better get it
done. Cause you don’t want an auditor to come in there and say this things all
hosed up you need to fix it, you know it is. Just take a deep breath and get in
there roll up your sleeves and fix it. So the departments, I think, have done a
great job of looking at themselves and saying these are the things were we had
barnacles on us that we need to kind of dry dock a little bit, we need to fix some
things. Some of those are simple some of them are a little more thorny, and I
think you know the community, obviously the community out there, you know this
community well and you can start putting categories which we will do before I
leave tonight, of things that are challenges out in the community that you really
feel like this council and this mayor really need to address. We’ll try to get some
of those categories up. So your purview is citywide their purview is based on
their mission, if it’s parks if it’s law enforcement if it’s waste treatment or if its
waste water or water. So they have a very narrow purview, yours is very broad.
Now a lot of the work that will be brought into your work is that you can reach the
end of these plans and stick out things, and say yeah that’s a big issue. Or they
can give it to you and say we think this is a big issue that will be part of our work
together. They’ll say we think this is a big issue and you might say yeah we
concur stick it on the wall. You know, I think it will go very fast once you get into
the process. So think about how we do this simple process is proven, and how
do we do things better, what keeps us from it? So think about that in those
terms, if you possibly can. Now what I want to do is, is hand out the departments
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just so you all know, they will be getting the same handouts. What these are, are
just examples of and I’m using ones that came out of El Paso county that I did
about three years ago cause they turned out with a plan that got national
recognition, these are examples of and I’ve explained that in the (inaudible) there
in the first set are things that were kind of plain vanilla. Were they have a
problem statement or a major problem statement, and then they have a set of
rules and then they have a set of general strategies. Then you get into the next
set; I hold one of these up too. The head of the departments will be getting
these. Anita has the original of this and she will be getting these to the head of
the departments tomorrow. So what we have to be able to do, this is the
category, they picked the category of transportation, of course this is a big
county, and then what are the goals tacked there to it, what are the strategies
that we in the county or in this case the city plan to do. Very plain, one page,
pretty straight forward but the reader knows what the problem is and what the
goals are associated with, generally what the major strategies of this council and
mayor have said this is what we are going to do. So there are some examples in
there by category, and I say before we leave tonight we will start looking at some
of your categories. If you turn to the one that is kind of toward the back, there is
another one says more refined major challenge areas, kind of right in the middle
there you’ll see one that starts with contentions, you’ll see ones, now this is
where El Paso county went, they initially went with plain vanilla, and then they
said they wanted more information to share with the reader, cause the reader is
the public as well as themselves and their county commission and all the elected
and appointed officials particularly throughout the Colorado Springs area as well.
So they started putting in, you know information in here, and these are just some
examples I didn’t take all of them, and they ended up going to two pages. My
recommendation is lets stick to one or two pages and keep them very crisp, but
this is what I want you to be thinking about. In this first section of your plan, this
first big section of your plan, as part of this roll off up front, it’ll have your mission,
your vision, your operating philosophy. You’ll have letters from the Council, the
Mayor. You know some of that stuff. What the public tends to be interested,
wherever I go, is this section, major challenges and the goals associated with it
and the strategy. They can be fairly broad strategies, but what it does it gives you
direction. It says this is where we’re going. So, these are examples of pretty
much how they are written. There’s not a lot of mumbo jumbo in here. They’re
pretty straightforward. It’s a matter of saying what do you want to address. They
picked out their categories. This is what they ended up with. Then it becomes a
question of the departments; like if you say you have park and green spaces
would be one that we want to see addressed. So that would have to say to that
department, okay, write up the problem. Then what kind of information would you
like to depict in there? What shows depicts this issue? What demonstrates it in
some sort of graphic depiction if anything? Then you can always find some stuff
that the reader would enjoy or appreciate. Then what are the strategies? What
are you going to do about it? Take a look at those. These will go out to all the
department directors tomorrow. Examples only, but at least it shows you kind of
what we have to start putting together toward the end of the month. Again, when
I started moving into this format, quite a number of years ago, people have
responded really well. This is what gets all the community response. This
normally is what people end up publicizing. They don’t usually publicize all the
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department plans. This is what we publicize. This is what they pass out. This is
what they have community meetings about. This is where they get input. That’s
your call how you want to do that. This is where, fundamentally we need to be by
the end of the month. Let me stop there and ask questions. Any questions about
how we pull this together? Does that make sense? Pretty straight forward. It’s not
rocket science. That’s why I keep saying that the process of it kind of (inaudible)
over the year. It’s a process that is --. It’s simplistic. It’s concise but yet it has
meaning when you read it. You know exactly what it is in the page and a half
(inaudible). Let me ask you, --. Well, let me do one more thing. (inaudible). There
are always questions, and I’ve passed out to the departments and I want to pass
out to you. There’s always questions with regards to the relationships between
goals and objectives and action strategies. I want to pass these out because
these are --. I just have six copies. (inaudible). This is information that is critical
because if you’ll, and I’ll be happy to share with you if you ever just want to kick
back and drink a cup of coffee and talk about it. Most of the plans that I’ve read,
and I’ve been all over the country, maybe 100 a year, are just listings of activities.
They are not true goals. Now, if you remember goals are to increase or decrease
something or to, increase or reduce something. (inaudible) this morning, its
interesting when you look at people and say well our goal is to create a new task
force to explore this, this, and this. They go, what (inaudible) the litmus test for
you as a Council and Mayor if you say what if you had all of that done next
Monday morning? Everything you ever wanted was there Monday morning, what
would you accomplish? A goal is an accomplishment. It’s an outcome on the
other side. What that creates within departments, (inaudible), people sit there
and go well, I guess we --. It almost always comes out we’d probably reduce the
number of such and such. Then that’s the goal. So, what this does, it explains
the relationship between a true goal and if there’s nothing we accomplish this
year, its teaching the relationship between a true goal and what an objective,
which is really just a short term goal. That’s all an objective is, its just an annual
or a two year goal. Under those objectives are the actual strategies which
become a little project plan that answers how are you going to accomplish this?
That’s what ties back into the budget. When you start having quarterly meetings
and certainly annual reports for variance, you say how did you do? How are you
coming on that? Did you accomplish that? Did you get it done by the due date?
You’re going to have real specificity for the first time throughout all departments.
As we meet individually, I’ll show you like I did with Bill (inaudible) and we’ll
tomorrow go over some of what we’ve already found. A lot of specificity in these
plans. You can always have more. Some people might want it. Usually it’s the
other side, people will want less. We kind of got the middle ground because what
it does, it starts raising the bar and the expectation of what they come to you
with. We talked about that this morning. People over time will come to you with
better-prepared data, information, rationale, for what they’re asking for. Why they
believe that you should go with this one or that one. I think that if we can keep
two fundamental things in mind, one is we’re looking at internally and externally.
Secondly we’re looking at what’s too high that we need to reduce and what’s too
low that we need to increase. Everything in every department, as always, has
fallen into either one of those categories. It always does. The one I mentioned
before but I didn’t this time, is what are we doing just right? That becomes a goal
to maintain. John Shawcroft has some of those. Like I say, certain little
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wastewater treatment in particular to response time in the fire department, and
police. Certain response times within a certain perimeter. We’re there; we need
to maintain it. That’s part of our goal. You can have that as a goal every year.
That’s fundamentally, as a Council, you have to say what are we going to
increase? We’ve spent all this money, what are we going to do? We’re going to
look behind and say what's the outcome going be? Every time you’re going to
find out its going to be to increase or decrease something. Fully, 98 to 99 percent
(inaudible). I’m a little redundant about this because it’s so important, they’re just
lists of activities. You’ll go down and say our goal is to create, build, buy, replace,
investigate. Those are all strategies or activities. Once you’ve done all that, that’s
what a Council and a Mayor has to look at. What do we get out of that, if we’re
going to be spending the green? Think about that. I think that’s really important.
We’ve got to go kind of fast here. What I would like to do is take a little bit of time
to see if we can identify some of the major categories. I have some other things,
which I promised some of you that I’ll give you some articles that I’ve written in
the past that I would like to share with you. I’ll get those out for you later. What
are some of the categories and challenges? We can start internal or external. It
doesn’t matter that you believe we need to begin to think about as we move
toward our session? Think category, (inaudible) parks. You kind of go by
department, it's fairly easy to do. But what are the ones that tend to come back
on you that we really need to address?
De Weerd: Customer service.
Luthy: Okay.
Bird: Customer service.
Luthy: Okay.
Bird: That is both internal and external isn't it, John?
Luthy: Well, --
Bird: Because it’s us taking care of the customers but it’s also what the customer
perceives how we do it.
Luthy: It’s any way you want to look at it. Its also how do we treat each other?
Bird: That’s right.
Luthy: I mean, if I’m in the finance department, I have customers. If I’m in the HR
department I have customers. If I’m MUBS I have external customers. So, I think
you’re looking at both sides there. I really do. So, this is a major one, okay? This
probably ties into image and reputation as well. Is that an area of challenge?
Bird: Reputation?
Luthy: Image?
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Bird: Image, you bet.
De Weerd: For every government.
Bird: I think any government is image. I think it starts with the Mayor down to the
lowest employee. The one we just hired today or something.
Luthy: An on going challenge.
De Weerd: The lowest employee? The newest.
Bird: Well, the newest. When you’re the peon of the company for four years, then
you’re the lowest.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
De Weerd: Communication.
Luthy: I suppose again, that would be --.
De Weerd: Both.
Luthy: That internal, external?
Bird: Yes sir. Don’t a lot of these goals and things fall both ways, John? In both
external and internal?
Luthy: They certainly can. You bet you. You bet you. Particularly the ones,
remember we talked about tangibles and intangibles?
Bird: That’s right.
Luthy: Tangibles are a lot of stuff, equipment, backhoes, things like that.
Whereas intangibles are like loyalty, moral. Those are types that are intangible.
Then image is certainly intangible. So is reputation.
Corrie: One of our external is big right now is growth and land use.
De Weerd: Growth management.
Corrie: I don’t know whether we can manage growth.
De Weerd: Well, that’s how you –
Corrie: You can –
Bird: You can try it.
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(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Corrie: I think working at it, yes.
De Weerd: Okay, out of control growth.
Luthy: Really that’s the issue because management is really the solution. I mean,
that is our desired solution.
De Weerd: Either you manage it or you don’t.
Luthy: It's like herding (inaudible).
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: The developer thing (inaudible). Good, so this is going to be measured.
De Weerd: Budget.
Luthy: Okay.
Bird: Eliminating waste.
Luthy: Okay, so –
De Weerd: Is that Sanitary Services?
Bird: No, not --.
Luthy: I’m going to put efficiency and –
Bird: Inefficiency in our government. (inaudible).
Luthy: Okay.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Nary: What about employee retention?
Bird: Okay.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
De Weerd: Training.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
De Weerd: That probably is in –
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(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
McCandless: Part of it yes.
De Weerd: Yes, slash training.
Luthy: I call it employee development but that is a big one. The issue from what I
understand from Pauline is lack of a systematic approach. That’s one of the
things this article deals with is a true employee development system.
Bird: I think consistency --. How do you want to put it? That’s efficiency?
De Weerd: That regional, (inaudible).
Luthy: Now, is that us going out because we can’t control other people
cooperating with us?
De Weerd: No, I think it's all working together and you know, we’re the center of
all of this and so --. (inaudible).
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Corrie: (inaudible) that is surfacing now, John is IT problems.
Luthy: Good, that is a big one, yes.
Corrie: That’s a very expensive one.
Luthy: Yes, I have a feeling it's not going to get any cheaper or less complex.
You’re going to find all of this is going to taper off on us. I don’t think so. See, this
is another one that will tie back into efficiency because this becomes a tool in
your toolbox. It's a big tool. When you really look at, that’s why we say we start
with an intro. And say how can we make this the best-run corporation in the
valley? What are the tools we have? How good are they? IT is one of those.
Training, people skills, our customer service. (inaudible) entirely in our (inaudible)
but also our (inaudible).
De Weerd: how about, it might be education but, public empathy.
Luthy: Yes. Now is that a problem? Obviously it's an issue.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: That’s one that’s kind of hard to control.
McCandless: Real hard to control.
Bird: Yes, real hard to control.
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(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Corrie: Empathy happens whenever you’re doing a lot of things right. They don’t
think you are doing the right thing (inaudible).
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: Will, you don’t have any masking tape do you? I left mine out in the back
of my car.
De Weerd: We lock it up for public hearings.
Luthy: All right.
Bird: Will’s got some.
Luthy: Think of some of your departments and the major things that they have to
get their arms around. Go back to Parks, go back to Public Works, going back to
Law Enforcement. Since Mike’s here, Gary and Brad’s here. What are some of
the major challenge areas that you see? Is crime, (inaudible) something you’ve
got to keep a beat on?
De Weerd: Definitely.
Luthy: Okay. Do you feel, some of you have been around it for a while? Do you
see crime working it's way up?
Bird: I think crime has increased in the 36 years I’ve been here nut I don’t think it
has increased to the population because we’ve had a very good police force and
we’ve had very good officers working for us. I think that they are very much out in
the community and --.
De Weerd: It's diversified though.
Bird: And they –
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
De Weerd: Yes.
Bird: You’ve got different type of crime, but I believe that we are handling it as
well as anybody and keeping it down.
Luthy: Some of that is your maintaining level. (inaudible). Also staying ahead of
the challenge is the diversity in crime and how that changes (inaudible). So, it's
staying ahead of that as well.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
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Luthy: One of the things to keep in mind is that one of, we (inaudible) didn’t
actually do as a problem solving team, we go right to the problem. What we need
to do, in the next few weeks is say these are categories that we want to kind of
drill down into. Law Enforcement is probably going to be one of those. In every
community, public safety is big.
De Weerd: Transportation.
Luthy: That would be another one that I think would be a major one.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Bird: We really need more lanes on that freeway.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Bird: I think another thing we need to look at in departments, in parks particularly
is partnerships with private –
De Weerd: Well, that’s just cooperation and regional.
Luthy: That’s all fixed. If we had all the partnerships in the world, what can we
use those to get? Would we get more recreational?
Bird: You’d get more space developed.
Luthy: Okay.
De Weerd: More (inaudible).
Bird: Without taking taxpayer dollars to do it.
De Weerd: Better utilization –
Bird: -- of your resources.
De Weerd: -- of taxpayer holdings.
Luthy: One group outside of Denver that I worked with, everything they did, they
wanted to kind of have the umbrella of quality of life. They said we don’t want to
deal with anything that does not directly impact in a positive way our quality of
life. That was the beginning and ending premise. They were a very wealthy little
community outside of Denver. It was interesting because they said, what impacts
our quality of life? Well, you talk about water. You know you talk about water and
sewer. You talk about, you know public safety. You talk about parks and green
space, recreational opportunities. Certainly this one. Not directly, but what's
interesting was everything they said has to start with how we feel as we
(inaudible).
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Bird: That’s right.
Luthy: What about economic prosperity? Is that an area that you as a Council
discuss and keep your shoulder --?
De Weerd: I think that’s under growth.
Bird: I don’t. This is an economic development that is completely different. I think
that basically we haven’t (inaudible) as much as we could. We’ve been very
fortunate (inaudible). We need to definitely look into it.
Nary: I think the difference is the Jabil Circuits versus Thousand Springs.
Bird: Yes.
Nary: One is providing opportunities, job opportunities as well as fiscal
opportunities to the City versus, growth. When I think is growth in that, is both
residential and commercial.
Bird: Yes.
De Weerd: Yes.
Nary: He’s talking about how (inaudible). That I think is good.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Bird: Economic development is bringing people in for jobs –
De Weerd: Planning what kind of commerce you want.
Bird: -- and stuff like that.
Luthy: It's commerce and enterprise.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Bird: Commerce and stuff that helps with your growth.
De Weerd: it's employees.
Luthy: It's basically people coming for functions and spending money.
Nary: The industrial park is a method that’s used sometimes. It's a tool that’s
used to drive economic development, providing that space, (inaudible)
Silverstone.
Luthy: There you go. So, that might be an area too and saying that’s a challenge
area for us because this committee is going to say, you’re on your tiptoes looking
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over the, you know the couple sets of foothills, where we see the community.
What we’re going to be out trying to create in the future. That might be the nature
of it. So, we have the parks and green space.
Corrie: (inaudible) environmental (inaudible) would be very important. We can
keep up with the infrastructure needed to kind for the environment.
Luthy: Okay.
Bird: I’d say quality of life.
Luthy: Environmental quality. So this is going to pull water, wastewater, --
Bird: (inaudible)
Luthy: Several aspects of Public Works into it as well.
De Weerd: What about recreation?
Luthy: Well, I kind of stuck recreation up here –
De Weerd: I didn’t see the green space. (inaudible)
Luthy: I probably should put a separate thing here. Partnerships becomes a fix,
kind of how are we going to accomplish more under some of these. Private
partnerships becomes a major tool in our toolbox.
De Weerd: Yes.
Bird: It don’t just have to be parks that has partnerships.
Luthy: That’s right.
Bird: It could be several different --. Transportation could be done.
Corrie: Economic development.
Bird: Economic development is very big in partnerships.
Luthy: Yes. As we distill through these here over the weeks ahead you’ll find
some things are subsets of others. We’ll end up with a fairly short list. The
average list is 12 or so long. These are the major areas. You can pull into area
like this, environmental quality. These can become your goal areas too. You
know, our goal is to increase or maintain, depending on where you are right now,
your environmental quality, you know as the City matures, you know or ages, or
grows. However you want to say it. Same with that law enforcement. Another
thing to be thinking about is do you want the law enforcement and fire, all under
the public safety? We might easily, those departments, like those separate. But,
something to think about when we have our discussion.
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Bird: (inaudible) because we have a partnership in the fire department.
(inaudible)
Luthy: Certainly the rural –
Bird: We have the rural that is a partner with us and they are about three or four
percent of our revenue, isn't it? Isn't that right? 26 percent or something? Yes, we
probably would have to separate the police and the fire because there is different
aspects of that partnership there that has to buy in with your goals and stuff too,
even though we’re the managing partner.
Luthy: Yes.
Bird: They’ve still got –
Luthy: That’s a good way to look at it too because there really is a social slash
business arrangement.
Bird: Yes it is.
Luthy: Or it's a political social slash business.
Bird: You’ve got to treat it as a business, John. You know it's just like you know,
it's got some City it's got to be treated just like a private business. Your goals
should be like a private business.
Nary: Another challenge too John, is we haven’t really talked about (inaudible)
expansion or elimination of services. I think as the City grows, a lot of these
things, some of them are very reactive to what's going on in the community. I
think at least for discussion we would want to do what you talked about. Is your
service that we provide that should be privatized or done in some other manner?
Or is there service that we aren’t providing that really should be something that
the City should be. Evaluate it and provide another service (inaudible). So, it's
ahead of the curve, not just reactive.
Luthy: That’s a good point because that’s going to go back up to the efficiency,
the government efficiency and waste. Are we managing this City as efficiently
and as effectively as we possibly can? How are we doing on time? We have to
watch the time.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: We need to stop pretty much right on time. These are the kind of things
that we need to --. What I’ll do is I’ll type these up and get them out to everybody
so we can kind of have these to feed off of. Think of the big ones and we can
always go, you know we can go from the smaller ones and expand or go from
the larger ones. But, when we meet in a couple of weeks with the departments,
their juices are already flowing, most of their issue areas are going to fall into
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these types of categories. I mean, virtually all of them fall into efficiency,
effectiveness, relationships, styles, and things like that. I think you’ll find that
probably looking at these, probably half of these fall under, or a third of these
would fall under some of the other ones that are up here as subsets. Let me put
them all together and get them out to you. Then start thinking about that.
De Weerd: Do you have our email addresses? You can just email them if you
want.
Luthy: Okay. I can certainly do that. I have some of them. I can get them from
Will. He usually provides that for me, so I can get that. The question before we
leave today --. Let me try to pass these articles out while I’m doing this.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: How should we, I know Will had emailed everybody and asked everybody
to look for their calendars. Has anybody, do you know if we’ve centered on any
dates?
De Weerd: When are you out of town?
Corrie: The 21st
, the week of the 21st
. The 17th
or the 18th
, as far as I have as
clear days. How are the 30th
and 31st
?
Luthy: I have a breakfast on one of those days with the Mayor of Sandpoint
because he’s a member of the AIC. Are you a member of the AIC?
Corrie: Yes.
Luthy: Okay, so you’re –
Corrie: You must be going to have it on the 30th
. AIC is coming into town that
day.
Luthy: Yes, he wants to meet the first –. I just talked to Paul today. He wrote in
both days but he wants it on the 30th
. So, the 31st
is wide open. Are you tied up
with the AIC on the 31st
? What about the 1st
, Friday, the 1st
?
De Weerd: The 17th
doesn’t work?
Corrie: Friday, in February?
Luthy: Yes.
Corrie: (inaudible) 9:00.
De Weerd: Oh, well he can’t. He’s committed.
Corrie: Friday the 1st
is a good day.
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Bird: That’s fine with me.
Luthy: That’s a good day because AIC –
Bird: Just let me know.
Luthy: -- stuff will be --. Should we tentatively mark that down? I mean, I know
Will is working where.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: On the first?
Berg: (inaudible)
Corrie: It shouldn’t. I have it on the --. The vote meeting is on Wednesday.
Wednesday night at five. Don’t you have a board meeting on that same night?
Berg: I have (inaudible).
Luthy: What about the 25th
, which is --?
Bird: That’s fine with me.
De Weerd: The Mayor is gone.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
McCandless: That’s the day I have knee surgery too.
Luthy: We can meet at your recovery thing and hang out.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
De Weerd: You’ll have more fun doing it.
Luthy: Is Friday a good day for everybody? Is a Monday better or a Wednesday
better?
Bird: Just let me know ahead of time.
Nary: Mondays are better. Fridays are (inaudible).
McCandless: Fridays are usually pretty good.
Luthy: Well, we need to because all the directors have to be there too. So, we
need to figure a date.
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De Weerd: So, you can’t do it the 18th
?
Luthy: I can do it on the 18th
.
De Weerd: Can you Mayor?
Bird: Does that give you time to get this, if our departments aren’t going to have it
in until the 15th
?
Luthy: Well, --
Bird: I know you’re pushing for the 11th
, but you know, it's going to go to the 15th
.
*** End of Side One ***
Bird: The 18th
is a Friday.
Corrie: I’m sorry. I’m still in January. I’m sorry.
De Weerd: It sounds like this (inaudible).
Corrie: The 18th
? That’s all right.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: The 18th
of January?
De Weerd: Yes.
Bird: The 18th
of January.
Luthy: Okay.
McCandless: That’s all day?
Luthy: Yes. (inaudible). What would that be Mayor?
Corrie: (inaudible).
De Weerd: The 17th
would be better but if we can do it on the 18th
--.
Luthy: The 17th
is fine with me.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: On the 17th
?
Bird: Yes, let’s go the 18th
.
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De Weerd: I’ll go the 18th
.
Luthy: Okay.
Bird: Are we all set?
Luthy: Yes.
Corrie: What time do you want to start?
Luthy: Well, we probably should be out there ready to start at 8:30, I would say
let’s convene and have (inaudible). Let’s get together and start at (inaudible).
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
De Weerd: What do you do?
McCandless: It's at where? Spurwing?
Bird: So, we start at 7:30?
Luthy: Yes, if everybody can be there, say 7:30. Maybe just kind of have some
coffee or something between 7:30 and 8:00. As soon as everybody gets there at
8:00.
Corrie: Okay. We’ll take care of all the food and the drinks and that.
Luthy: Okay. I think we’re set. We need to get the information out to the directors
and see if they can (inaudible).
Bird: The Mayor will take of that.
Luthy: Let me pass out to you, some of you have this already. Mayor I think you
do. Let me pass out this. Two articles, one has to do with the concept of
leadership and legacy, which has been published in Australia and Canada and
some other places. What this has to do with partly what we’re doing, the strategic
planning. It has to do with developing a process that really endures. That’s really
the foundation that we’re laying with the planning. The second is an article on
employee productivity which was a cover story that I did back 98. I want to share
it with you, some of you have already seen it but some haven't. This is one extra.
Do you want this one?
(inaudible discussion amongst Council)
Luthy: I would like to, and I’d really encourage you to try to read these before we
have our meeting. Some of you have already seen these but I’m not sure who
has and who hasn’t. One is, the employee development, which I think is going to
be one of your real cornerstones that you’ll be laying in the future, a process to
do that. The other one has to do with the concept of actually developing things
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that truly leave a legacy for the departments as well as for the Council and the
Mayor. FYI, certainly. I encourage you to read them before we meet on the 18th
.
That’s all for me.
Bird: Thank you very much, John.
Luthy: You’re welcome.
Bird: Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would move that we adjourn the special strategic meeting.
De Weerd: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion made and second to adjourn the special meeting. All those
in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:30 P.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVED:
/ /
ROBERT D. CORRIE, MAYOR DATE APPROVED
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., CITY CLERK