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WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk
GARY D SM THS P.E. City Eng near CITY OF MERIDIAN
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T. SHAWCROFT, Wasle Water Supt.
KENNY W. BOWERS, Fire Chiet
W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief
WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney
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June 6, 1995
33 EAST IDAHO
MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642
Phone (208) 888-0433 • FAX (208) 887813
Public Works/Building Department (208) 887-2211
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
Mr. Bob Unger
Ada County Development Services
650 Main Street
Boise, ID 83702
Re: Weiss Property -Eagle Road s/o Ustick
Dear Mr. Unger:
COUNCIL MEMBERS
RONALD R. TOLSMA
MAk YERRINGTON
ROBERT D. CORRIE
WALT W. MORROW
SHARI STILES
Planner 8 Zoning Administrator
JIM JOHNSON
Chairman -Planning & Zoning
The City Council of Meridian heard a presentation by Robert Montgomery regarding the above-
referenced property on May 16, 1995. The Meridian City Council voted to write a letter of
favorable recommendation to Ada County with conditions that there be adequate screening
(landscaping) and that provision for a future easement for the South Stough sewer extension be
made. It should also be noted that our Comprehensive Plan designates the South Slough as a
future pathway and that a school and park site are needed in this section. This approval does
not, however, include hookup to any Boise City services.
Minutes of the meeting are attached for your information. Please do not hesitate to contact me
if you have any questions.
Sincerely,
CITY OF MERIDIAN
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Shari L. Stiles
Planning & Zoning Administrator
cc: Robert Montgomery, Attorney
Meridian City Council
May 16, 1995
Page 67
Kingsford: Moved by Max, second by Ron to approve the beer and wine license for Bolo's
Pub and Eatery, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #18: TEXACO TRAVEL CENTER: REQUEST FOR BEER AND WINE LICENSE:
Kingsford: Any problem with that Chief?
(Inaudible)
Kingsford: Entertain a motion on that.
Tolsma: So moved
Yerrington: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Ron, second by Max to approve of the beer and wine license for
Texaco Travel Center, we did by the way get their County license they turned that in today,
all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #19: ROBERT MONTGOMERY: PRESENTATION OF PROPOSED STORAGE
FACILITY WITHIN MERIDIAN CITY AREA OF IMPACT:
Montgomery: It has been a long evening so I will be very brief, I am here, my name is Bob
Montgomery and I am here on behalf of Steve and Lavon White (End of Tape) Mr. Bob
Unger and he indicated to us before Ada County would with the review of the project that
they needed some indication from the City of Meridian as to their feelings about this
because the Comprehensive Plan at the site of their property I believe calls for a single
family residences. So, Mr. Unger suggested that we visit with the Council and get some
indication from them or at least an indication that they didn't object to a review by Ada
County to proceed onward with the project. So, Mr. Steve Wiess is here and he would like
to explain very briefly what the project is and what they are planning.
Weirs: I will try to make this as brief as I possibly can. On your Comprehensive Plan you
will notice on the right hand side up near the outer border there is a red mark next to one
of your I believe it is a proposed park. That is our property, it is located at 2500 North
Eagle Road. It consists of 12 acres. It is a very irregular shape and we are severely limited
by the slough on the north side and an irrigation lateral on the south side regarding
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May 16, 1995
Page 68
ingress/egress. We would not be accessible to the properties on either side of behind us
because they are literally the first spot from the division of the slough to an irrigation
lateral. And it is very narrow at the back of the property and very wide towards the front.
The second page is the aerial photograph taken by the Idaho Transportation Department
in March 1994, again outlining the property boundaries that we currently have. You can
see the development in the area. What we want to do is provide a service for the
continuing growth of the Meridian area and allow people to meet with the covenants of the
subdivisions and such of the single family dwellings around us to have a place to park
there excess vehicles, motor homes, boats. It is excess storage units instead of filling their
garage and parking on the street they would have another place to locate those extra
items. The third page if you unfold it is a preliminary landscape. Shari indicated that there
would need to be some extensive landscaping. Idaho Transportation Department does
have plans in fiscal year 1996 to widen that section of highway. They have already
purchased 70 feet from us for the entire length of our frontage which is I believe 212 feet,
nearly 213. Idaho Power, unbeknownst to Ada County was quite surprised and somewhat
dismayed over the fact that they are running a major transmission line down that section
of road. They evidently indicated they thought it was possibly going to be a buried line.
Anyway we are limited on the constraints of the irrigation canals, the slough, the progress
that is coming our direction as to what we can do with that property. Being as it is such a
small parcel of ground single family dwellings after we put in street and curb and gutter
and utilities and what not wouldn't be a viable option for us.
Kingsford: Roughly how many acres are you looking at there?
Weirs: The entire parcel that we own is 12 acres, what we are looking at doing is
developing 7 acres in possibly 2 different stages. We would put in an entirety of 600
storage individual storage units along that, that includes RV and outside covered storage
for different vehicles and what not.
Kingsford: That is your intended use for the whole parcel?
Weirs: Yes, right now we have a plan of doing the 7 acres in possibly within the next 5
to 10 years, we would go ahead and extend it on back. Currently we have a residence on
that property, 3000 square foot house with a tote car garage and the remaining 5 acres
until such time as they are ready to develop the rest of it would remain a rural setting we
might put one steer out there on grass or something like that. I do have a preliminary, it
didn't get into your little thing here but I do have a preliminary outline of what the entire
land would be consumed of if you would like to see that?
Kingsford: Go ahead.
Meridian City Council
May 16, 1995
Page 69
Weirs: This is the entire piece of ground, the boundary lines, the slough and this is how
much of it we would be developing right away. The remainder of the residence and the
pasture back here (inaudible).
Morrow. Type of construction of the buildings? If we looked around Ada County and the
cities in Ada County what would this project most look like in terms of building
construction?
Weirs: Most of the storage facilities in Ada County are a frame with a metal covering, we
are looking at doing it out of block or concrete (inaudible) so that it is a more permanent
more pleasing, easier to design as far as making it easy on the eye and what not for
people to come by and to rent and what not.
Morrow. Based on what you are saying these would be very similar to the ones that are
being built currently on State Street?
Weirs: Yes, very much so, the buildings of course would be much longer and what not
because we do have more room to work with but yes they would be very up class.
Morrow Just east of Collister?
Weirs: Yes, they would all be surrounded with a Cyclops security fence, we would go
ahead with that all the way around our property line. Problems we have right now with
other types of developments that we have considered you know we owned this property
since 1969, I grew up on it, I used to hunt and fish around it, you can't do that any more.
Livestock is a problem because Eagle Road is going to become such a busy thoroughfare
that if we did have an animal get out onto the highway the liability would be atrocious. The
surrounding neighborhoods have got dogs and what not that come in and attack young
calves in the spring. I don't know if I should say this but I have shot several dogs in the
years past before there were many homes around. As far as growing a crop it is a very
small parcel of ground, (inaudible) farmers are hard to come by. Things are changing we
can't put in a sewer sysfiem we can't put in water because it is not available and this would
be the way for the property to help pay for itself, increase the Meridian City's tax base in
the years ahead and a benefit to the future development of the area.
Corrie: Have you run this by the Fire department yet?
Weirs: I talked to Mr. Voss about it because I needed to talk to him about what type of fire
protection, fire suppression would need to be detailed into the plans as we go along. He
indicated that internal sprinkler system would not be necessary. That there would need to
be fire hydrants with a minimum of 1500 gallons per minute for the fire trucks in case of
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some sort of horrendous disaster. But he did indicated also that if we discussed it with the
ire department overseeing Council or whatever it was that he was talking about at the time
there could be a possibility they could waive it until such time as the City water did come
our way. Now if you look in your Comprehensive Plan half mile north of us on the south
west corner, well actually I guess it would be the northeast corner of Eagle and Ustick
Road you do have a proposed well to go in there for City water. He kind of indicated they
might be able to work something out if we get your approval, if Ada County is willing to
work with us that we could go ahead an stem in all the systems and everything and then
when the water came by we could just hook up to it.
Kingsford: Either of those ditches that are adjacent to you are they live ditches year
round?
Weirs: The Slough on the north side had been a live ditch for years, the last 3 years it is
dry from before Thanksgiving until May. I don't know if it is because the water table has
dropped, I actually had Health and Welfare tell me that at one time the water table out
there was 2 feet deep and our house sits 4 feet in the ground and I said 1 don't think so.
It has been live in the past and we used to water livestock out of it and it has been dry in
the last 3 years in the winter time.
Con'ie: You will probably have to run that by Rural fire and I don't know what they will tell
you.
Kingsford: Of course that is one of the things that Ada County gives them approval that
they will have to meet.
Weirs: An option we may have is to drill a well that will pump whatever required water.
Basically what we are asking for right now is a preliminary (inaudible) from the Council that
would indicate in a letter form to Ada County Planning and Zoning that you wouldn't
necessarily stand in the way for us to go ahead with this project.
Kingsford: Any further questions of the Council? Is there a motion?
Smith: Mr. Mayor, I would just like to make a comment that the South Slough is one of our
designated locations for a trunk sewer. We don't at this point know where that sewer is
going to be exactly other than the Comprehensive Plan shows the trunk sewer route.
Whether it is on this gentleman's property or on the other side of the slough I don't know.
But in terms of locating your buildings I would request that you give consideration to
enough space so that a sewer line could go through if necessary. At least the option is
available to be located there. Typically we try to stay within the easement that has been
designated by Nampa Meridian Irrigation District who maintains that ditch, I don't know
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May 16, 1995
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what that width is at that point, it varies up and down the ditches.
Weirs: On the Slough Meridian I don't believe has an easement they just asked if they
could enter our property to cut the trees and to drudge out the area that is plugged. On the
south side of our property where the irrigation lateral is there is a lane that goes down on
our property that they do maintain. That is another problem with the progress of the area
as we have a lot of people running their dogs and riding their horses and riding bicycles
and motorcycles up and down that lane and again we have a liability problem there if they
trip and fall through a gofer hole and break their leg they are going to sue me not Ada
County or Nampa Meridian Irrigation. So again this would fence this material, it would no
longer be irrigated on that front portion that I showed you here on this map. The remaining
back portion would still be accessible to Nampa Meridian for maintenance on those
surfaces.
Kingsford: I think Gary's point is we would like to have access and be able to put a sewer
line there.
Weirs: At this point in time we are looking at possibly having a driveway back to the home
that is there right now. If we go ahead with possible purchase of another piece of property
adjacent to us if they are willing there will be a 25 foot driveway down the side there that
will be paved and you can put your sewer line in under that. When we develop on it will
not be a problem.
Corrie: What minor change is required (inaudible).
Weirs: You have single dwelling homes in that area and we are going to commercial. I
am assuming it is a commercial set up. You have on your comprehensive plan you have
mixed use and commercial within possibly a 1000 feet of us on the north and the south.
It is just again a small parcel of ground that if somebody were to buy it and try to develop
it and put homes on it, it wouldn't pay.
Kingsford:. I don't know so long as it is green I don't know that it necessarily would be a
violation of our comprehensive plan. The request is for a letter from the Council to Ada
County P & Z, is there a motion?
Morrow: Mr. Mayor, I would move that we send a letter to the Ada County P & Z with a
favorable recommendation subject to a couple of conditions. The one of course being the
completion of the screening and secondly that Ada County P & Z as a condition of
approval stipulate some future easement area for sewer line access as per Mr. Smith's
recommendations. That is a decision that he needs to make.
Meridian City Council
May 16, 1995
Page 72
Tolsma: Second
Kingsford: Moved by Walt, second by Ron to approve or to write a letter of favorable
recommendation to Ada County Planning and Zoning with 2 stipulations one that have
adequate screening and two that there be provided future easement on South Slough for
sewer extension, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #20: TERRY ADAMS:
Kingsford: Mr. Adams is the current holder of the Foreign Trade Zone in Meridian. We
have had some discussion with Port of Lewiston and he wants to make a presentation to
Council with regard to granting that transfer to Port of Lewiston for use of the Foreign
Trade Zone. I will let him speak to that issue.
Adams: Thank you, first I thought it would be in order to do a quick review of the Foreign
Trade Zone. One, the goal is to assist existing intemational business by providing an area
outside of the US jurisdiction so that any raw products that are imported in the United
States are not assessed a duty so long as those goods are used in the manufacture of a
finished good which is then being exported. Second, there was an assumption that the
real potential in this area lay in the ability to provide this capability to existing businesses
that their existing location not expecting them to build a new facility just to come inside of
this zone so to speak. And that we would do so by granting special purpose sub-zone
licenses to those existing businesses. There was a further assumption that any facility that
was physically placed within the Treasure Valley Business Park which is designated in the
original application as the geographical boundary that any facility would most likely be in
the form or an administration building only. It was a further assumption made that I
believed that we did not see that just because this was zone was granted that we would
see an immediate rush to participate in that. I think that last assumption has proven very
much true. Currently I have been approached by the Port of Lewiston and also Inland 465.
Inland 465 is a warehousing venture a limited partnership comprised of Phost Maritime
which operates the barges from Lewiston to Portland. Lewiston Grain Growers and Ken
Cook who is alias manager of West Best Trucking based in Lewiston. The Port of Lewiston
is serviced by Union Pacific and the Burlington Northern. Terminal #2 of which the
warehouse is a part is 150 acres consisting of barge docks, container transload facilities,
there are 10 truck lines and 11 intemational container companies represented there. The
warehousing facility is 150,000 square feet of multi-module warehousing. Both Inland 465
and the Port of Lewiston are interested in obtaining the Foreign Trade Zone status. The
granteeship of an FTZ I think needs to be understood is really not a commodity this isn't
something that is sold such as real estate. It appears we have some options here, one
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LAW OFFICES
ROBERT C. MONTGOMERY, CHID.
Telephone (208) 384-0003
Telefax (208)343-8312
355 W. Myrtle, Suite 102
Boise, Idaho 83702
May 4, 1995
Mr. Will Berg
Meridian City Clerk
33 E. Idaho Street
Meridian, Idaho 83642
Dear Mr. Berg:
MAY - 8 1995
CITY OF MERIDIAN
Licensed In
Idaho, Oregon & Washington
I am working on a development project with two long-time
Meridian residents, Steve and LaVonne Weis, who want to build an
upscale storage facility on their property. We have already
discussed the matter with Ada County P & Z but they indicated we
would first need to get approval from Meridian since the project
would require a minor change in the City's Comprehensive Plan.
Would you please schedule us on the agenda for the city
counsel meeting May 16, 1995, for a short presentation regarding
their project. Please feel free to contact me if you have any
questions.
Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
Sincerely,
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ROBERT C. MONTGOMERY
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