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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 7, 2003 P & Z MinutesMeridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting August 7, 2003 Page 38 of 104 MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT Zaremba: Mr. Chairman? Borup: Item Number 6. Zaremba: I move we forward to the City Council recommending approval of Item 6 on an agenda, PP 03-018, request for Preliminary Plat approval of -- is it still 49 building lots? Do we know if the numbers changed or -- Hawkins-Clark: The number as we have recommended it, if you add the new condition that says that they submit a revised Preliminary Plat -- Zaremba: That will straighten that out. Hawkins-Clark: I think that will straighten that, yes. Zaremba: Thank you. In that case, let me continue. Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 49 buildings lots and two other lots on 80.51 acres in a proposed C-G zone for proposed Silverstone Campus Subdivision by Sundance Investments. Southeast corner of East Overland Road and South Eagle Road, to include all staff comments of their memo for the hearing date of August 7, 2003, received by the Clerk July 31, 2003, with the follow changes: On page eleven, paragraph five, apermanent -- the first sentence. A permanent pedestrian easement in favor of the City of Meridian shall be added to the face of the plat adjacent tc the south side of the Eight Mile Drain and the easement shall be recorded. On Page 12, add a Paragraph 14 -- this is still under Preliminary Plat site-specific comments, Item 14 on Page 12 to read: Anew Preliminary Plat drawing will be provided to the Planning and Zoning Department ten days prior to the next Public Hearing. Rohm: I will second that. Borup: Motion and second. All in favor? Any opposed? Thank you. MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT Item 7. Public Hearing: CUP 03-033 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for a professional dental office in an L-O zone for Millennium Dental by Millennium Dental -south of East Overland Road on South Millennium Way: Borup: Next Item, Public Hearing CUP 03-033, request for Conditional Use Permit for professional dental office in an L-O zone for Millennium Dental by Millennium Dental. It's on -- south of Overland on South Millennium Way. Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting August 7, 2003 Page 39 of 104 Rohm: Mr. Chairman? Borup: Yes. Rohm: Could we take a short break? Borup: Do we want to do that now or can we get through this one page? Rohm: Okay. Borup: I was planning on that after this first page. Rohm: Good. Let's go through it. Borup: Okay. Hopefully, these two will be fairly short, then, I think, yes, we will be ready. I'd like to open this hearing and start with the staff report. Hawkins-Clark: Thank you, Chairman Borup, Members of the Commission. This item is requesting a Conditional Use for new dental office. It's in the Resolution Subdivision, which you have seen several times over the last year. This lot is located just immediately north of the Mountain View High School lot on Millennium Way. The existing zoning is limited office, which is a zoning that accommodates professional dental offices. The reason that they have to do a Conditional Use Permit, is because the Resolution Planned Development did require all new uses in here to have that, so that's the reason it's a Conditional Use. They are proposing a 4,100 square foot building for the dental office itself that's located here on the northern side of the lot. When this came through as a Planned Development, this lot actually showed an LDS seminary at about a 6,000 square foot size, so the concept does vary in that way in terms of the square footage. If this second building is proposed, it would increase the square footage, excuse me, by about 1,000 square foot on the lot, if you combine the two buildings. The lot would have to take access through a shared cross-access easement here off Millennium Way. It does not have, itself, direct access onto South Millennium. There is already a recorded easement for these three lots here off of Millennium that is already recorded it gives them the ability to access to the south. The existing -- or the buffer, I should say, is existing. That was constructed by the developer, so, really, the scope of this Conditional Use Permit begins here on the inside of the landscape buffer. Parking is shown against that buffer. The building is oriented to Millennium. They do have this site for a future building, which we did not receive any building elevations for, so we still have the requirement in the report for a Conditional Use on that one as well. The Gaudry Seegmiller Subdivision I wanted to also throw into this presentation just for your --just to remind you of what was discussed here. This lot that we talking about tonight is on the south end of this project and there is a flag lot that comes off Millennium Way that comes down and is immediately east of the lot. The access for Gaudry Seegmiller is, as I pointed out earlier, shared off Millennium. That would come in. Seegmiller dental was approved by City Council a couple of weeks ago and that's on this Lot 1, which they did require a temporary emergency cross-access to Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting August 7, 2003 Page 40 of 104 be on the south side of that lot. They are going to be putting bollards there. So -- let's go back here. The question came up does this dental lot that you have before you tonight need to have some kind of vehicular access to the east to connect with this flag lot that is going to be abutting, you know, all these projects in here and staffs recommendation is that we -- that a vehicle cross-access is not necessary. There would be potentially four access points placed onto this Lot 3. One from Millennium Way, one from the north, they are going to be required to put one to the east, to have a fourth one on a parcel that's only about an acre and a half in size we felt was kind of excessive for them to have to accommodate their parking and their building orientation. That's the reason why going back to the Site Plan we are recommending that they not have to do a vehicular connection there. We are recommending a pedestrian connection and that they enter into an easement that gets recorded before they do Building Permits, so there would be that pedestrian connection that would go to the east. Other than that, I don't think we had any changes to the staff report. There are a number of modifications to the Landscape Plan that is there in Item Number 6, but I think the applicant can accommodate those pretty easily and that's all I have. Borup: Questions from any of the Commissioners? Does the applicant have a presentation they'd like to make? Zaremba: I think I saw in the notes and just confirm if you would, to build a second building on this one lot they would need to do a Planned Development, and they can do that later? Hawkins-Clark: That's correct. Zaremba: Okay. You can have one building built and, then, apply for the Planned Development? Hawkins-Clark: Correct. Zaremba: Okay. Borup: Is the applicant here? Knopp: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Commission, my name is Larry Knopp, I'm the architect representing the owners here this evening. We have read through the conditions of approval, we are in agreement with all of them, we have modified the Site Plan on most of them at this point in time, and we will be submitting those for -- to the staff. There is one item 6-H where the staff is recommending us remove two of the car parks on the lower -- this car park and this car park for a backup, I'm assuming, or a turnaround. What we would like to request is maybe designating those as compacts or whatever, because we have the standard dimensional standards for the parking, 25 foot driveways and 19 foot depths on the stalls, so this shouldn't be a problem to negotiate any cars that are parking in this. This parking lot is mainly designated for the employees. The clients will be using all the front car parks out here and they just feel Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting August 7, 2003 Page 41 of 904 like they would like to have as many car parks as possible on it to make sure that they meet their needs in that scenario. Other than that, we have -- we are in agreement with all of them. The future building, the reason it's there is because these lots are just bigger than what they need. I have designed it -- the parking and the way the lot is set up I have designed for this square footage and this square footage, the parking to meet those requirements. When and if they come back in, if they decide to do something with this, it's there and it meets all the standards of -- for the Planning and Zoning. Zaremba: If there was some decision in the future not to build, I guess that's an LDS seminary? Not to build it there, what would you do with that piece? Or whatever that building -- second building would be. What would you do there? Knopp: I think the confusion is in the original subdivision, Resolution -- and I wasn't involved in it and so staff can maybe -- Borup: I think the seminary moved. They are over there on the west end of the property. Zaremba: Okay. It's a potential building that could be anything. Knopp: This. Yes. It would have to meet, of course, whatever is -- you know. I think what he meant was this site was normally submitted by Resolution developers -- Resolution as being a possible seminary site and it didn't happen, along with the five acres to the east over here was supposed to be a skating rink and I don't know if that's going to happen, but those were uses that they proposed could happen and haven't, so Borup: Okay, any other questions from the Commissioners? Zaremba: Does the staff have an opinion on making the two stalls compact, instead of eliminating them for landscape? Hawkins-Clark: Oh. Chairman Borup, Commissioner Zaremba, yes, we feel that it needs to be there. I mean even if they are compacts, I mean it's going to be a real tight turning radius. I haven't seen the revised Site Plan that Mr. Knopp's drawn up, but as far as we are concerned, it's really nonnegotiable. I mean you really need to have that turning area in there. Zaremba: They would still have enough parking spaces eliminating those two for the potential both buildings? Borup: Maybe you can answer that, Larry. Did you have some extra parking spaces there? Knopp: Yes, I do. I do have landscaping -- there is landscaping there, it's just that we don't have the backup that normally you would see, but the 25 foot driveway width still Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting August 7, 2003 Page 42 of 104 accommodates back up and maneuvering room to negotiate, you know, the parking stalls. I have met the landscaping standards. I have well exceeded the landscaping standards, so it's -- I don't think that's an issue. Maybe I'm wrong, but I -- I don't know. I guess staff is -- Borup: So staff is saying -- staff wants those nine feet there for someone to back out into those other two stalls? Is that -- is that what we are gaining? Powell: Chairman Borup, Members of the Commission, it's not necessarily nine feet. Generally, you see them at about five feet, but it's just so you can -- the person parked in that last stall can back out and go forward out of the parking lot, rather than having to back up against other cars. Then, maneuver around, so they can do it in one turn, rather than having to do a three point turn. Does that make sense? Borup: Yes. Powell: Okay. Borup: Unless it's a compact car. I think that's part of it, I'm assuming, just because it's designated compact, they don't always, -- other cars can still park there. Knopp: Right. Zaremba: If you move the wheel block down to the middle of the parking space. Hawkins-Clark: Just to answer your question on the parking, it appears that they would be still two over if they had the maximum square footage that they are showing on their Site Plan. They are right now showing 40 spaces. If they took those out they would have 38 on the site and the first building -- the dental building would require approximately 22, 23 spaces and the future building would require about, what, say ten or 12, so they would have about a 30 -- they would be two over still. They would meet that. The last thing I guess staff wanted to point out on the LDS Seminary, it was approved for this lot that's shown in yellow. It's being constructed now behind the church that was just completed. I'm sorry. I guess the building is not being constructed, but it was approved, so the seminary -- I believe they just chose to shift the location of that. Borup: Okay, anything else, Commissioners? Thank you, Larry. Knopp: Thank you. Borup: Do we have anyone else here to testify on this? Seeing none -- Zaremba: Mr. Chairman? Borup: Commissioner Zaremba. Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission Meetlng Augus[ 7, 2D03 Page 43 of 104 Zaremba: I move the Public Hearing on Item 7 be closed. Mathes: Second. Borup: Motion and second to close Item Number 7, all in favor? MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT Zaremba: I would guess the only item for discussion is Item 6-H on Page 5. Borup: Has staff expressed how they felt? Zaremba: I think it's a clever idea to have it be compact spaces, but I'm more inclined to go with the staff request to just taking the two spaces out. Somebody who comes into this spot is not going to learn it's a compact space until they are already in it and they could be in it with a larger car. I just think it makes it -- as long as they have enough spaces anyhow, I think it makes it easier to get somebody out of there if we give them a backup space and that would be done by complying with it the way the staff asked for it. Borup: So, then, that would not be modifying any of the staff comments, then. Zaremba: That would be leaving the staff comment the way it is, as clever as I thought the compact idea was, any objection to that? Mr. Chairman? Borup: Commissioner. Zaremba: I move we forward to the City Council recommending approval of Item 7 on our agenda, CUP 03-033, request for a Conditional Use Permit for a professional dental office in an L-O zone for Millennium Dental by Millennium Dental. South of east Overland Road on South Millennium Way, to include all staff comments of their memo for the hearing date August 7, 2003, received by the City Clerk July 31, 2003. Mathes: Second. Borup: Motion and second, all in favor? Any opposed? MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT Item 8. Public Hearing: PP 03-021 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 40 building lots and 6 other lots on 13.85 acres in an R-4 zone for Bear Creek No. 8 by Bear Creek, LLC -north of West Victory Road and east of South Stoddard Road: