HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009 12-22Meridian City Council Meeting December 22, 2009
A meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:00 p.m., Tuesday,
December 22, 2009, by Council President Charlie Rountree.
Members Present: President Charlie Rountree, Keith Bird, Brad Hoaglun, and David
Zaremba.
Members Absent: Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Others Present: Bill Nary, Jaycee Holman, Pete Friedman, Bill Parsons, Tom Bany, Jeff
Lavey, Mark Niemeyer, and Dean Willis.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X David Zaremba
X Charlie Rountree
X Brad Hoaglun
X Keith Bird
O Mayor Tammy de Weerd
Rountree: Good evening. I'll call the meeting to order. This is Tuesday, December
22nd. This is our last official meeting for 2009 and wish you all a happy holiday season
and a good new year to come. Start this evening's meeting with roll call vote.
Item 2: Pledge of Allegiance
Rountree: We will be led this evening in the Pledge of Allegiance by Boy Scout Troop
462. We have a couple gentlemen that are going to help us out this evening.
(Pledge of Allegiance recited.)
Item 3: Community Invocation by Pastor Burton Roberts with Meridian
Gospel Tabernacle.
Rountree: Fellows. Guys, come here. Got a couple pins for you as a reward for
standing up and doing this. City of Meridian pins. And thank you. This evening we will
be led in the community invocation by Pastor Burton Roberts. Thank you for being here
this evening.
Roberts: Thank you for this opportunity. Let us pray. Most gracious and kind Heavenly
Father, it is always our privilege to come before you and ask in the name of our Lord
and Savior Jesus, the Christ, for your blessings in our lives and especially with this
season and the opportunities that we have to show our love for you and our love for our
fellow man. We ask tonight, Father, that you would cause your Holy Spirit to move
upon each one of our lives in this community, that you would bless our City Council as
they go over the facts of this evening, cause them to have great wisdom, understanding,
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and guidance as they make their decisions tonight. So, cause all of our hearts, Father,
to this week really understand the true meaning of Christmas. May our hearts tum
toward you and, again, I ask that we would be able to sense the brotherhood and the
specialness of this occasion, so all of us may join together in the wonders of rejoicing at
such a gift of God. We ask all these things in Jesus' wonderful mighty name, amen.
Item 4: Adoption of the Agenda.
Rountree: Next is the adoption of the agenda.
Zaremba: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: On the agenda under Consent Agenda, Item 5, Item N, the resolution
number is 09-702. Item O, the resolution number is 09-703. Item P, the resolution
number is 09-704. And we would like to add an Item Q to the Consent Agenda, which is
a letter to the Idaho Transportation Department regarding Eagle Road access issues.
Each member of the Council has been given a hard copy of that letter and it has also
been added to the city website under tonight's agenda, if anybody cares to look at that.
Farther down on the agenda, under action items eight -- I'm sorry. Under ordinances,
Item 9-A, the ordinance number is 09-1437. Item B, the ordinance number is 09-1438.
And with that I move we adopt the agenda.
Hoaglun: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to adopt the agenda. All those in favor?
Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 5: Consent Agenda
A. Approve Minutes of the December 8, 2009 City Council
Meeting
B. Artist Acceptance Agreement with Duncan Grandin for Display
in Initial Point Gallery
C. Professional Service Agreement Between Centra Consulting
Inc., and the City of Meridian for aNot-to-exceed Amount of
$50,000.00 for QLPE Review of Construction Drawings as
Allowed in Idaho Code I.C. 39-118(2) (d).
D. 2008-2009 Financial Audit Agreement with Eide Bailly, LLP for
a Not-To-Exceed Amount of $40,300.00
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E. Irrigation Easement Between Meridian Dairy and Stock Shows,
Inc. and the City of Meridian for the Split Corridor Pump
Station
F. Contract Amendment with Billing Document Specialists to
Extend Utility Billing Services for an Additional Year per the
Existing Agreement Dated October 1, 2006 for aNot-To-Exceed
Amount of $200,000.00
G. Change Order #1 to Task Order #0663A, Creekside Arbour
LOMB with CH2M Hill, Dated December 4, 2008, for Response
to FEMA Comments for aNot-to-Exceed Amount of $7,800.00
H. Task Order #0711A with Hydro Logic for Well #18 Evaluation
per Master Agreement Dated February 18, 2007 for aNot-to-
Exceed Amount of $11,583.00.
I. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: AZ 09-
005 JJA Land by Mason and Stanfield, Inc. Located at
Northwest Corner of North Linder Road and West Ustick Road:
Request for Annexation and Zoning of 5.89 Acres from RUT
(Ada County) to C-C (Community Business) Zoning District
J. Findings of Fact and Conclusion of Law for Approval: AZ 09-
009 Southridge-Hodges by Linder 109, LLC Located at 1785
South Windy Ridge Lane: Request for Annexation and Zoning
of 6.16 Acres from RUT in Ada County to R-8 (Medium Density
Residential) Zoning District
K. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: AZ 09-
004 The Baby Place by Brent 8< Coleen Goodwin Located at
270 North Linder Road: Request for Annexation and Zoning of
0.98 of an Acre from R1 in Ada County to C-C (Community
Business) Zoning District
L. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for Approval: AZ 09-
008 Meridian Crossing by James Zeiter located at 1085 S. Ten
Mile Road: Request for Annexation and Zoning of a total of
115.26 Acres Consisting of 48.59 Acres to the C-C (Community
Business) Zoning District; 27.27 Acres to the H-E Zoning
District; 22.57 Acres to the M-E Zoning District; and 16.83
Acres to the R-40 Zoning District
M. Development Agreement: RZ 09-003 Request for Rezone of
5.02 acres from R-8 (medium density residential) to L-O
(limited office) zone for Bainbridge by Brighton Corporation -
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south of Chinden Boulevard on the west side of N. Ten Mile
Road
N. Resolution No. :Adopting Meridian Parks
and Recreation Department Administrative Policy Regarding
Use of Metal Detectors in City Parks and Facilities
O. Resolution No. :Approving Consolidated
Annual Performance Evaluation & Report (CAPER) for CDBG
Program Year 2008
P. Resolution No. :Adopting Meridian Police
Department Administrative Policy Enumerating Approved
Alcohol Server Training Programs
Rountree: Next item is the Consent Agenda.
Zaremba: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: As noted, we filled in the resolution numbers for N, O, and P, added an Item
Q, which is a letter to the Idaho Transportation Department and with that I move we
approve the Consent Agenda and authorize the President to sign on behalf of Mayor
and the Clerk to attest.
Hoaglun: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to adopt the Consent Agenda. Any
discussion? All those in favor -- well, we need a roll call on this one.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 6: Department Reports
A. City Clerks Office
1. Request by Lee White for Waiver of Fees for Accessory
Use Permit
Rountree: Next item, Department reports. City Clerk.
Holman: Councilman Rountree, Members of the Council, we have a request by a Mr.
Lee White for a waiver of fees for an accessory use permit for his property on -- I
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believe it's Ten Mile Road. I, actually, had spoken to Mr. Friedman and he is going to
give a little bit of an update on this.
Rountree: Okay. Thank you. Pete.
Friedman: Thank you, Council President Rountree, Members of the Council. This is --
my presentation will be short. Mr. White has requested a waiver of the fees for an
accessory use permit for a home occupation. Obtaining the permit is necessary to
remedy a code violation on Mr. White's property. The processing of the home
occupation permit we are hopeful will remedy that situation. The C-4, that permit is 160
dollars and Mr. White has requested a waiver of the fees by the Council. The UDC
grants the Council authority to waive those fees based upon hardship and right now
tonight, really, the only thing before you is the question of whether or not the fees
should be waived. If you have any questions I would be happy to answer them.
Rountree: Any questioned for Pete? Just run down what the fees are for.
Friedman: Primarily it covers the cost of -- of course, our staff time in reviewing the
application and notifying surrounding property owners and generally just transmitting
paperwork, doing that sort of thing.
Rountree: Would that include hearing notices if anyone objects to this application?
Friedman: Yeah. There are no other costs involved in the permit.
Rountree: Okay. Mr. White, are you here this evening? Do you have some comments
for us? We have your letter and we have that on record.
White: Does everybody get nervous when you get up here?
Rountree: Certainly do. We do, too, so -- if you would give us your name and address
for the record.
White: Lee White. 1750 North Ten Mile Road, Meridian. You have my letter?
Rountree: We do.
White: As stated? Well, essentially, there is supposedly some letters against me,
asking to close my operation and what I have been doing down. I have taken about two
minutes to write -- and written something. It will take about two minutes. Would that be
acceptable?
Rountree: That's fine.
White: Okay.
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Nary: Mr. President. Mr. President. Mr. White, is what you're reading related to you
waiving the fee and not to the underlying request that you made; correct? Because all
we are considering this evening is whether or not you're allowed to waive the fee. This
isn't the hearing or a hearing to hear whether or not your underlying application should
be granted. I just didn't want to mix the two.
White: Yeah. Well, not being versed in the law and things, so I -- I probably mixed the
two together.
Nary: All they need to hear, sir, is whatever -- whatever reasons you have in requesting
why the fee should be waived. There will be another opportunity to discuss your
underlying application.
White: Okay. That will be acceptable, then.
Nary: Okay.
White: I don't have any other than what Mr. Friedman said. I personally think that the
fee might be a little bit high. Would like to not have to pay it, but it's in your hands.
Rountree: Well, thank you. Any questions for Mr. White, Councilman?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Discussion? We will need a motion one way or another.
Zaremba: It's hard to avoid discussing the underlying issue.
Rountree: Well, again, this is whether to waive the fees. The application yet needs to
go through the process of approval or not and --
Zaremba: Mr. President?
Rountree: -- there are both supporters and objectors, apparently.
Zaremba: Mr. President?
Rountree: David.
Zaremba: I'll move that we waive the fee for this application.
Bird: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to waive the fee for the application. Any
discussion? Brad? Seeing no discussion, we will have roll call vote on the motion.
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Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
B. Police Department
1. Budget Amendment for K9 for $4,795.00
Rountree: Meny Christmas. Next item, Department Report from the Police
Department. Two items.
Lavey: Mr. President, Council. Two items here today. The first item I spoke with you
briefly at the workshop about a month ago in regards to the K-9 request. Through the
generous donations of the community we have the opportunity to purchase one K-9 and
through the Council approved enhancement to replace that same dog and the original
plan was to sell our single purpose narcotic detection dog. I am in front of Council today
asking for an amendment to cover the wage salaries that would require under SLSA to
go ahead and keep that dog and, then, put it on as a drug interdiction dog for our
schools. The total cost is 4,795. That covers the wages and workmen's comp and all
those other fees that are associated with that. And I'm here to take any questions on
that request.
Rountree: Any questions for the chief on that request? We have discussed it in the
past.
Bird: I have none.
Zaremba: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move we approve the budget amendment for the K-9 for the amount of
4,795 dollars.
Bird: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to approve the budget amendment request.
Roll call vote.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
2. Brynne Grant Update on Purchase of Scout Alarms
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Lavey: Mr. President, Council, the second item is also something I briefed to Council
about in the past on the Bymne grant. If you remember, the City of Meridian was
successful in obtaining two separate grants, one about 133,000 dollars and the other
one in the amount of 31,000 dollars. I came before Council and gave several items that
we were intending to purchase with those grant monies. One of them was the records
management software and the other one was some Scout alarms. I'm in front of
Council today just to inform you that we have purchased those Scout alarms in the
amount of 20,801 dollars and the reason why I am bringing this in front of Council is just
to let you know that although I have monies to cover this purchase in the -- in the
current police department budget, we have to front the money until we are reimbursed
back to us and in this particular case Ada County was the agency that actually takes the
money, so we will front the money, make the purchase, get reimbursed and, then, we
will get those monies back and I just want to make sure that I'm able to get that money
transferred back from revenue back into that line item to make sure I don't have to come
before you and ask for additional monies at the end of the year. So, finance assures
me that everything is taken care of, but I just want you folks to be aware of it when that
comes in front of you. Questions?
Rountree: Any questions for the chief?
Bird: None.
Rountree: I think heads are nodding that we have heard you and that's going to
happen.
Lavey: Okay. Thank you very much.
C. Fire Department
1. All Hazards Mitigation Plan Participation
Rountree: Thank you. Next update and department report, fire department. Chief.
Niemeyer: Mr. President, Members of the Council, I'm actually here before you
representing the city's emergency management committee. That's the committee that
I'm fortunate enough to chair and I think Chief Lavey will tell you he had something to do
with that position acquisition that I obtained. We received a request from Ada County
city emergency management, that's Doug Hardman's office. They are currently in the
process of updating their all hazard mitigation plan, which is a plan that outlines how we
would respond in an earthquake, flood, anything that's a natural disaster Meridian is a
part of that plan. As part of the update there has been a change in which they are
asking cities and jurisdictions to sign off as planning partners. What this does is
achieves compliance with the Disaster Mitigation Act. Essentially, what that means is
that it makes us eligible for federal funding for any mitigation efforts and I did ask Doug
Hardman if mitigation is widening Eagle Road and he wasn't sure. So, we will have to
keep looking at that one. I have sent this request to the Mayor for her to sign, indicating
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that we will be a planning partner. What that means is that we assign somebody from
the city and I'm thinking it's probably going to be an assigned task that I will take on as
the chairman of that committee. The time needed to participate in this is minimal,
probably looking at about eight hours over the next 12 months, as we update that plan.
Rountree: Any questions for the chief? Will we see the plan in draft form?
Niemeyer: You will. Prior to it being activated or signed off on by all agencies
everybody will have a chance to review it.
Rountree: Very good. Thank you, Mark.
Zaremba: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: Do we need to authorize the Mayor to sign the letter you're referring to?
Niemeyer: That one I'm not sure on. Maybe Bill could answer that.
Nary: Mr. President, Members of the Council, since this is just a cooperative agreement
you don't need to do that. Part of the reason I suggested it to the chief to bring this in
front of you is because at some point in the planning process it may have budgetary
impact, but at the moment it really is just a cooperative arrangement, so it's not
necessary to have -- to authorize the Mayor to sign that.
Hoaglun: Mr. President, question for Mark. This is amulti-jurisdictional approach --
Niemeyer: It is.
Hoaglun: -- you mentioned. Is there good cooperation among the other entities in the
area?
Niemeyer: Yeah. I think talking to Doug he's had good buy into it. He's getting a lot of
jurisdictions. There is a lot of districts that hadn't participated in the previous efforts that
are now going to be participating, school districts being one, and if we do have a flood
or something big like that we are going to have to rely on some of those agencies. So,
from what I'm hearing there is good buy in so far in getting folks to sign off on that.
Rountree: Any other questions, comments? Thank you.
Item 7: Items Moved From Consent Agenda
Rountree: There were no items moved from the Consent Agenda.
Item 8: Action Items
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A. Public Hearing: RZ 09-004 Cabella Creek by Coleman Homes,
LLC Located at East Victory Road, West of South Mesa Way
and East of South Bailey Way: Request for Rezone of 5.41
Acres From R-4 (Medium-Low Density Residential) to an R-8
Zoning District for Cabella Creek
Rountree: We are on Item 8, public hearing. Public hearing for Cabella Creek. I will
open that public hearing and Bill or Pete.
Friedman: Mr. President, Bill will start off the presentation tonight on that.
Parsons: Thank you, Mr. Friedman. Council President Rountree, Members of the
Council, before you this evening is a rezone of Cabella Creek Subdivision. This project
came before Council in 2006. At that time it was platted and zoned R-4 and it also
required a development agreement with that approval of that site. The applicant is
coming before you this evening to rezone a portion of the site, approximately 5.41
acres. It incorporates approximately -- it incorporates 17 building lots and the applicant
is rezoning the property to, essentially, construct seven homes that -- in size -- that
range in size at 1,270 square feet. Currently the R-4 zoning district limits living space
standards to 1,400 square feet. The applicant -- or this project is located on the north
side of Victory Road in between Locust Grove and -- excuse me. Approximately a
quarter of a mile west of Locust Grove. Again, here is an aerial of the site. You can see
a lot of the property around it is either in the county or currently developed in Meridian
and currently zoned R-4. The site is a little bit more developed than what you see here
in the aerial. Here is the current land use map and the zoning map that we have in
place today. On the left-hand side you have the zoning map that shows where Cabella
Creek falls in relation to the surrounding properties and, then, on the left-hand side you
have the comprehensive map and, again, you can see this is designated R-4 or low
density residential, and this property is consistent with that zoning district. The
applicant is not proposing to change any of the lot sizes or density of the project, merely
to, one, get out of the requirement of constructing the 1,400 square foot home.
Summary of the hearing for you. Planning and Zoning Commission recommended
denial at their hearing on December 3rd. Their reason for denial was the fact that it may
set a precedent for other properties that may want to come in or developers may want
to rezone their properties to construct smaller homes to get out of those R-4 standards.
So, we thought this wasn't the appropriate avenue to follow to construct more homes.
Staff did work -- talk with the applicant during the pre-application meeting, informed
them that the variance probably couldn't meet those findings to support a variance as
well and we thought maybe a possibility, given the direction of possibly rezoning the
entire subdivision to an R-8, they were unable to get consent from adjoining property
owners or homeowners that are currently in the subdivision, so that wasn't feasible, and
so their option was to, again, rezone a portion internal to the site, that way they still
keep those lots transitioned along the surrounding subdivisions, but that way they would
only impact a small portion of the subdivision. Speaking in favor during that hearing
was Becky McKay and Thomas Coleman, who is the applicant's representative, and the
applicant, as part of the rezone application. Matt Dinfer was at the hearing, did not
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testify, signed up as -- in opposition of the rezone. Rose Crandall and Aneke Binford
testified at the hearing in opposition of the rezone. Mike Bell also submitted written
testimony in opposition of the rezone. Rose Crandall also submitted written testimony
and also provided at the hearing a petition from 11 homeowners that were also in
opposition of the rezone. Key changes from staff from the Commission none. So,
really, the outstanding issues for Council tonight is -- is this the appropriate avenue for
rezoning the property to construct smaller homes. The other issue is the applicant has
provided written comments regarding some possible DA provisions, if you so choose to
recommend approval. Staff finds it difficult -the other issue is that the Council really
wants staff to track required CZCs for single family homes just to track seven 1,270
square foot homes in the subdivision. The applicant does have a brief presentation for
you tonight that she wants to kind of get you an overview of the project. Again, the only
comments we did receive was from the applicant, since that hearing date, the Planning
and Zoning Commission hearing date. And with that I would stand for any questions
Council may have.
Rountree: Questions for Bill?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: None. Thank you. Is the applicant here? Yes, she is. If you would give us
your name and address, please.
McKay: Becky McKay, Engineering Solutions, 1029 North Rosario, Meridian. Business
address. Good evening, Members of the Council. I'm here this evening representing
Coleman Homes. Thomas wanted to be here, but since the hearing was so close to the
holidays he is out of state at the family gig. So, I will try to do the best I can kind of
going through his Powerpoint presentation. What I brought before you this evening is
some examples of the homes. They have already constructed some of the homes
within the Cabella Creek project and that's -- that's one of the homes that -- that's before
you right there. Secondly, this project was approved -- kind of give you a little history --
in 2006. The original developer constructed about 90 percent of the development and,
then, ran into financial difficulties. Coleman Homes got with the owner and U.S. Bank
and they, basically, bought this at the brink of foreclosure and Mr. Coleman went
through and replaced letters of credit at the highway district and the City of Meridian,
which were on the verge of expiring or being called and agreed to take on this task. We
did a complete analysis starting about in June of this project of all the outstanding items
that needed to be addressed. One, the landscaping was in extremely poor condition.
The pump station had never been installed, nor the check structure within Ten Mile
Creek, to supply adequate water. They did hook onto Meridian water as an alternative,
but due to lack of maintenance and other problems with the system the landscaping
went into disrepair. Mr. Coleman went in, repaired that landscaping, planted an
additional 60 trees, went through -- the top picture you see here is what it looked like.
The bottom picture is what you see after they went through and worked it over. They
also, like I said, added trees, went through and added signs and flags and tried to dress
the project up. The Council approved this initially with three ponds and they were to be
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utilized for storm drainage and for -- as an amenity. Those ponds were absolutely
disgraceful. They were green. Ada County Highway District came out. We met with
them. They did not meet ACHD standards. My firm redesigned the ponds and Mr.
Coleman has been working on getting those repaired. Installing aerators, and getting
this project back on track. The Colemans -- they are a developer, but they are also the
builder within their developments. They are currently building in Middleton in the West
Highlands project and they have also bought three phases of Bridgetower and they are
currently building out there and, then, they have purchased this Cabella Creek. They
pride themselves on the quality of their homes and providing a diverse style of home in
various sizes. One of the things that -- that we talked about with the staff was the fact
that just because a home is 1,600 or 2,000 square feet, does not necessarily make that
home a quality home. Obviously, the example here, you can see these homes are on
larger lots, they are over 1,400 square feet, but esthetically they are lacking in features
and amenities. These homes that you see there are, obviously, on considerably smaller
lots. They are dressed up. They have some nice architectural features. They use
differing architectural textures, rock and brick and so forth, and wood siding. This is one
of the homes that is constructed out in Cabella Creek. The home that you're looking at
right there, to kind of give you a reference point, is 1,500 square feet. The picture below
it reflects the interior and the quality that the Coleman company is putting into their
homes and they want to make sure that they -- they create, obviously, the best design
they can at a good value and they do not provide any vinyl siding, 30 shingles -- 30 year
architectural shingles. They have a wide variety of amenities that they add. All the
walls are hand textured. They use the two by six. This home is another one that they
have constructed out there. This one is 1,700 square feet. And below you can see the
interior with hardwood floors, nice wood cabinets, quality appliances. This -- this home
shows you the rear elevation. That home in particular is about 1,800 square feet. They
offer a list to their clients of different Energy Star features if they so choose and they
find that right now what they are seeing in the marketplace is a need for some of these
smaller homes. They are seeing that out at Cabella Creek. They are seeing that over
in West Highlands. This is the home that they would like to build in Cabella Creek. It's
1,270 square feet. This is one of the models that they have just completed out at West
Highlands in Middleton. And I guess when we look at these projects we are always
front planning for perspective, trying to provide some diversity. It's important that we
have homes for different types of families. They are finding empty nesters, seniors that
are starting to down size and that's becoming a big part of this market. I did meet with
the neighbors on this project. One of the -- one of the primary concems was the
number of homes that we propose to build. We initially wanted ten homes out of the 47
that could be below the 1,400 square feet. They asked me could you re-reconsider and
maybe possibly come down on that number. We did reduce that number to seven. One
of the other concems they had was the adjoining subdivisions that wrap around us.
Salmon Rapids. They said, you know, on the perimeter we'd like to see larger homes,
more consistent with the sizes that we have. Could you potentially cluster those homes
within the interior of the development and so that was kind of the strategy we had here
for this -- this block. Oops. What we call -- song. What we call Block 2 there. So,
what's before you tonight are 17 buildable lots. They are in the middle of the
development. They are isolated in a block. What we are asking for is that only seven of
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those homes -- or those lots, I'm sorry, be allowed to have a home below 1,400 square
feet. Now, the staff raised some questions about, well, how do we track that. What we
suggested is that any home within that block be required to have a certificate of zoning
compliance prior to submittal of the building permit -- or building permit application.
Along with that certificate of zoning compliance would be an elevation of the home to~
make sure they are consistent with these homes that we have submitted as part of our
application and along with that would be a Block 2 map showing the lots that have been
built on or permits that have been issued and what the square footage of those homes
are. We think that -- that's the easy way to track it. This particular project there were no
elevations tied to this project at all and so by tying these elevations with an amended
DA, we feel that that will, obviously, protect the integrity and the quality of these homes.
Another thing is since the Colemans are the only builders out there, they don't have the
issue with having to deal with some builder that wants one of the lots, but doesn't want
to comply with the elevations, which we do face that on the developments where we
have multiple builders. Initially when we met with the staff we talked about a variance,
like Bill said. Pete and Bill indicated that they didn't feel a variance was really the right
way to go, since it is not a site characteristic or -- or any type of impediment on the site
that is creating our situation. We kicked around this idea of the rezone. We thought
that that would be viable. We went away from the meeting believing that that was an
option and, then, after further staff discussion they indicated that, no, they didn't feel
they could support it. The staff has kicked around the idea of doing an ordinance
amendment, because the R-8 zone doesn't have a minimum square footage for living
area, just the R-4. I know there have been discussions about it. I guess we were just
reluctant, we had already submitted our rezone application, and we were reluctant to
submit an ordinance amendment and have it be, you know, site specific. I guess if the
staff is thinking along those directions, it would probably make sense if that application
was initiated by the staff. We feel when you look out there at that -- at the zoning, you
have got Cavenaugh Subdivision, which is a complete sea of R-8. We are directly
across the street. You have Tuscany Village, which is directly across the street, a sea
of R-8. And as you can see with the low density residential we still have -- all these
yellows are pockets of R-8 that you see throughout this section here. We are not
changing the lots. We are not changing the density. We are not asking for anything,
just to allow approximately seven lots to be below 1,400 square feet and we have set
that at the 1,271. We are doing the best that we can with these distressed projects at
this time. They are always a struggle. It seems like all we deal with is problems now
days and we are trying to solve them best we can. This is a project that I think is
looking very well. I have been out there myself. I have looked at the homes. It's going
to have a diversity. The lots range all the-way -- or the homes range all the way up to
like 2,200 square feet. They have got multiple elevations for different styles of homes
and I have been very pleased with what I have seen and we think that this is a quality
development and we would like Council to I guess entertain the idea of this rezone,
since we can't figure out any other alternative application in order to accomplish this.
Do you have any questions?
Bird: Mr. President?
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Rountree: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Becky, you're asking to rezone 17 lots, but yet we are only going to build seven
1,270 square foot buildings?
McKay: Yes, sir.
Bird: What are we going to do with the other ten lots if we zone an R-8?
McKay: The other ten lots would be -- have to be above 1,400 square feet.
Bird: Yeah. But if we go to R-8, then, the setbacks all change.
McKay: The setbacks -- as far as the R-4 setbacks, they work fine for us. The setbacks
work great. The lot size works great. We are agreeing to comply with everything. The
only thing is that living square footage of 1,400, we are asking to deviate to 1,271.
Bird: Mr. -- follow up?
Rountree: Mr. Bird.
Bird: A 129 square foot, what does that add to the cost of the average house, Becky,
approximately? Twelve thousand?
McKay: The 1,271 square foot has a base price of 144 nine. That's a payment of about
915 a month. When you jump up to the 1,500 square foot, that base price is 155 or 979
a month.
Bird: What's 1,400?
McKay: I don't -- he doesn't have a 1,400 model, he only has a 1,500 -- 1,500 and,
then, the 1,271. As we submitted e in the elevations we submitted it's 1,271, 1,500,
1,824, and, then, it goes up to I think 2,200. So, you know, it's roughly -- we are talking,
what, 10,000 dollar difference?
Bird: Yeah. And also, Becky, what's to -- what's to keep Coleman Homes from selling
off those other ten R-8 lots and getting R-8 buildings put in there with the setbacks and
stuff?
McKay: Councilman Bird, I submitted a letter of DA provisions and in those provisions
we specified in detail the limitation of the seven homes, the limitation that nothing would
be below that 1,270. That the certificate of zoning compliance would be required and
the elevations would be tied to this project that we have submitted and that there would
be no duplexes or anything like that. So, it's very specific. And we feel that the
development agreement tied to the rezone could protect the community and protect the
city and still accomplish this.
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Bird: Thank you.
Rountree: Further questions?
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Rountree: Brad.
Hoaglun: Becky, I was just curious, you selected the intemal part of this -- this lot. A lot
of times, you know, small homes or especially apartments they put them out towards
the road. What was the thinking for that and also the second part of the question is are
these lots -- are they next to each other or are they interspersed within that -- within that
zone? I wasn't quite clear on that.
McKay: The -- I don't know. Bill, do you have a copy of the plat? All the lots in Block 2
are all contiguous to each other. They are on a cul-de-sac. Right here, as you can see,
there is a -- there is a cul-de-sac comes in here and this -- oh, sorry, Bill. This is the
block right here and -- and we picked that so that we had larger homes on the periphery
adjoining Salmon Rapids and adjoining these other parcels to the west and to the east.
As far as the ones next to the road, there is a larger home -- existing home located here
and another one here and so -- and I believe there is an existing home over -- located
here. So, we thought we would put them in that block and kind of isolate them here on
the cul-de-sac.
Hoaglun: Okay. That makes sense. Oftentimes you see -- if it's different than the rest
of the neighborhood they are out against the road, as opposed to being intemal. So,
that's -- it's a little bit of different -- different thought process in that. So, that makes
sense what you're saying. Thank you.
Rountree: Further questions?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Becky, how many homes are currently in the subdivision?
McKay: They have constructed -- Colemans have constructed three homes and I
believe there are -- there were -- is there six total? Including Colemans? Seven
including the model.
Bird: Plus the three existing?
McKay: There were, I believe, a couple of existing homes and, then, the original
developer sold some lots to builders who built some homes out there.
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Rountree: So, the CC&Rs that are in effect are in the hands of the current developer
owner, Coleman?
McKay: Yes, sir. Mr. Coleman has gone through those and revised them.
Rountree: Okay. Any other questions?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Thank you, Becky. This is a public hearing. I have two folks that have
signed up to say they are against this proposal. Rose Crandall. Do you wish to provide
some testimony? If you would give us your name and address for the record.
Crandall: My name is Rose Crandall and my address is 1319 East Observation Street
and my home is located on the very entrance of the subdivision and what I would like to
ask the city is I understand, you know --
Zaremba: Excuse me. Can you pull the microphone a little closer to your -- more
towards you?
Crandall: Oh. I understand Ms. Becky's presentation and while we appreciate what Mr.
Thomas Coleman has done to save the subdivision, we -- the existing homeowners also
have conceded to the lower size homes that he built and we know that he is building
quality homes. But it is still a known fact that the -- you know, the smaller size homes
affect the value of the existing homes and when -- and when we purchased our home
there were CC&Rs, which I found out later was never really recorded. .I have a copy of
it. Our CC&Rs that we signed for when we closed our home was a minimum of 2,400
square feet and I understand that, you know, ATM Development had fallen into the
problems that we are having right now and Mr. Coleman came to the rescue and with
his rescue, his line of -- his choices of homes are already diverse from 1,500 all the way
to 2,055 square feet and I just feel that -- that is, you know, going down to 1,271 square
feet is just going to devaluate our home value and, unfortunately, the CC&Rs that we
signed -- that I signed for when -- when I purchased the home, was really not recorded
with the city, because when I followed up with the city there was only one CC&Rs that
was there, which is the one that was recorded in June or July, which is the current one
right now, which has a minimum square footage on the CC&Rs as 1,271, which I
wandered myself, because it hasn't passed yet. Why is the minimum square footage on
the CC&R already, you know, written as 1,271 square feet. So, that's it. Thank you
very much.
Rountree: Any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: Just a comment about the CC&Rs. CC&Rs are between the owner and the
developer. They are not a requirement of the city.
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Crandall: That's what I found out also.
Rountree: Mike Vale.
Vale: My name is Mike Vale. I live at 3022 South Bailey Way. I'm also a homeowner in
this development. Beautiful presentation they have done. The photography is
absolutely beautiful. There is a lot of work that still needs to be done in that
development and I hope they do -- I can't understand why with the available property in
that area that is zoned the way they would like to have this zoned, they didn't purchase
something there, rather than purchase in this area and want to rezone it, but that's
something that they have done. I'm just here to voice my opinion that I'm against it for a
lot of the same reasons Bill had given, Rose had given, and that the Planning and
Zoning had heard. So, that's what I have to say.
Rountree: Thank you.
Hoaglun: Mr. President, just a quick question. You said how many homes are -- were
there before Coleman took over? Were there six?
Vale: I mistakenly -- there was one more I did miss. There is a third. There is a big
one that I think the original developer owned and I forgot to count that one. So, there
was the Crandall's home and my home were the only two homes with that developer's
home in the area also. They have since built -- the developer that built my home built a
house further -- a little bit further into the subdivision, so they added that one. And,
then, Colemans have built three homes that they have got I believe probably a spec
home and, then, they have got one home as a model. So, there is a total of -- that
would be eight. So, there were -- when we purchased, the Crandall's home was there
and my home was there, and, then, the developer has another big home that's kind of
set out of sight a little bit. So, those are the homes that were there.
Hoaglun: And Mr. President -- Mike, if you wouldn't mind, do you know what the
smallest size -- by chance what the smallest square footage home that exists right now?
Vale: I'm not sure what -- what your home is.
Rountree: You need to repeat --
Vale: Okay. Because my home's about 2,375 and there is another one that's 2,250.
Those are the three that were developed. I don't know what the very large one is that
the developer owned and, then, I'm not sure what -- I think they are about 1,500 or
1,600 square feet that the Colemans have built in there right now.
Hoaglun: And, Mr. President -- Mike, so the original purchase of the -- I think Rose was
mentioning something about 2,400 square feet was -- it was above 2,000 was the plan
for that --
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Vale: Yeah.
Hoaglun: -- particular development.
Vale: Yeah. I believe it was --that the CC&Rs said 2,200.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Vale: You're welcome. Thank you.
Rountree: This is a public hearing. Anyone else wish to provide testimony? Seeing
none, the applicant has an opportunity for final say.
McKay: Members of the Council, like Isaid, Idid -- I did talk with the neighbors on
multiple occasions. I talked to Mrs. Crandall and -- and I do understand when they
purchased their homes that they thought that -- that they were all going to be exactly
within that range that their homes are on, that 2,300 square foot range. Obviously, you
know, circumstances have changed. Mr. Vale indicated that there is still improvements
that need to be done out there, that is correct. One of the things that has hampered our
progress is their 404 permit with the Army Corps of Engineers had expired for the bridge
expansion. All of their license agreements and contracts with Nampa-Meridian Irrigation
District had expired, so we had to renew all those. There were no flood plain permits
granted by the City of Meridian for the check structure, so we have been getting all of
our necessary permits in order to finish up the last items. We feel that this is a good
project. Diversity does not mean cheap as long as the quality of those homes is there
and you're creating a community. I mean we pride ourselves in trying to put some --
some diversity and a mixture in these neighborhoods, so that they are a healthy, vibrant
neighborhood, and, like I said, providing homes for empty nesters, seniors, first-time
home buyers, that's kind of what we are seeing and -- and we are just trying to adapt in
a changing market and I think we have tried set forth detailed conditions in the DA that
would protect the city, protect the neighbors. I think this is reasonable. We are limited
just to seven homes. That's it. And we have got an easy way to track it. I talked to
Scott Steckline with Public Works, he indicated that they -- they track them there. He
said Ididn't -- I don't see what the issue is as far as any difficulty in tracking. I think this
is doable and I guess I'd like the Council to entertain it. Thank you.
Rountree: Thank you, Becky. Any further questions?
Hoaglun: I have a request for planning, if I might, Mr. President. How -- Bill or Pete,
how do we get adevelopment -- I'm thinking of Bridgetower, they have got a variety of
houses from -- from good size to big size, but there is some areas where they have
patio homes and they are much smaller. Was that -- was that done when the whole
thing was platted? Is that how that came about usually in that area and other areas?
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Friedman: Mr. President, Members of the Council, Councilman Hoaglun, that's correct.
When projects of that sort go through most of those conditions and those areas are
spelled out within the development -- initial development in and of itself and that comes
in with the original zoning and the original development review and, of course, all the
associated development agreements that go with it.
Hoaglun: Okay. And one last question if I might, Mr. President, for staff, is what is the
smallest square footage for an R-4 area?
Friedman: Smallest square footage?
Hoaglun: Smallest.
Friedman: The minimum floor area -- living area as the code defines it, is 1,400 square
feet in R-4 and 1,500 square feet in R-2. Those are the only two residential districts that
have limitations on there for the minimum floor areas.
Hoaglun: Okay. Thank you.
Rountree: Further questions?
Zaremba: Mr. President? Isn't a development agreement usually associated with an
annexation? Can we do that with a rezone?
Friedman: Yes, Council Members and -- Council President Rountree, Council
Members, we can -- we do have the ability to attach a development agreement to a
rezone. Annexations and rezones, really, are the only two vehicles that we have for the
development agreement.
Zaremba: Thank you.
Rountree: Any discussion? If there is none, I need a motion.
Zaremba: I would comment before we do a motion, if I may. I have heard the
discussion before about having a variation of sizes within a single subdivision and it
actually appeals to me. The reasoning is that as people's needs change, either as their
family gets bigger or later gets smaller again, people want to live within the same area
and be able to move from size to size within the same area and the same quality and I
like that explanation. So, on the face of it I could be in favor of this happening. I
understand the difficulty with rezoning the entire subdivision, could even, I suppose,
impact the loans that people have on the existing properties, if the underlying zoning
changes. So, I would have to say at the moment I still have some discomfort with
rezoning and I don't really have discomfort with the objective of what's going on here. I
guess I'm not comfortable with the method.
Rountree: Any comments?
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Hoaglun: Mr. President. Just a comment. You know, if they were coming -- the
applicant was coming in and this was a new parcel and we were looking at this and it
was the surrounding area was R-4 and they wanted R-8, Councilman Zaremba's right,
there are changes going on out there, asmaller -- smaller homes are becoming more
popular, either economic -- because of finances or energy costs or just people getting
older. There is more of us. But where I struggle is you have got people who have
purchased, built within that subdivision already. They have got the larger homes.
There was an expectation of larger homes and already that R-4 -- there will be homes
there at 1,400 square feet, which at the time they thought were going to be different, it
was going to be larger, and, then, that's quite a change right there, going from 24 to say
14 hundred square feet that they are going to have to live with and it does impact value
to some degree and that's something I struggle with you, yet at the same time Mrs.
McKay points out -- and it's a valid point, you could have a 2,400 square foot home
that's a box take a much smaller home and make it very interesting and retain good
value there. So, it's not always bigger is better, it's -- it is the quality. But, then, you
have a rezone that goes forward and if this does go to someone else, what happens
then? So, I'm less inclined to grant the rezone right now. I have an open mind to it, but
right now I just -- the impact to the neighbors that are already there and the
expectations they had when they purchased, that has already changed and another --
what was it, 129 square feet is -- I don't know if that's enough to justify it.
Rountree: No more comment? I need a motion on the hearing.
Hoaglun: I move to close the public hearing, Mr. President.
Zaremba: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to close the public hearing. All in favor?
Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rountree: Motion?
Hoaglun: I'll give it a shot here. Mr. President, I would move to deny the request for a
rezone on 09-004, Cabella Creek.
Zaremba: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to deny the request for the rezone for Item
8-A, the rezone request. Roll call vote. Excuse me. Is there any discussion on the
motion?
Bird: I have none.
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Rountree: Roll call vote.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
B. Public Hearing: ZOA 09-003 Unified Development Code Text
Amendment of City of Meridian Planning Department to
Amend the Text of Certain Sections of Unified Development
Code as follows: Chapter 1 Article A: Definitions; Chapter 2
Article A: Residential Districts; Chapter 2 Article B:
Commercial Districts; Chapter 2 Article C: Industrial Districts;
Chapter 2 Article D: Traditional Neighborhood Districts;
Chapter 3 Article A: Standard Regulations in all Districts;
Chapter 3 Article B: Landscaping Requirements; Chapter 3
Article G: Common Open Space and Site Amenity
Requirements; Chapter 3 Article H: Development along Federal
and State Highways; Chapter 4: Specific Use Standards;
Chapter 5 Article A: General Provisions (Administration);
Chapter 5 Article B: Specific Provision (Administration);
Chapter 6 Article B: Subdivision Process; and Chapter 6
Article C: Subdivision Design and Improvement Standards
Rountree: Next item, public hearing on Unified Development Code Text Amendments
for the City of Meridian, Item 8-B. This is a public hearing. I will open the public
hearing. Pete, you want to make a presentation?
Friedman: Thank you, President Rountree, Members of the Council. As the President
has indicated, these are zoning text amendments that are coming to you with a
recommendation for approval from the Planning and Zoning Commission. They are
initiated by staff. The primary intention was to address either problems that we have in
code administration or modify sections of the code or clean up sections of the code.
Staff believes that implementation of these will make the UDC more understandable, as
well as enforceable. The staff report contained a long long list of what those are. I
believe in the interest of brevity you don't want me to go through those individually. I
would be happy to if you do. But if you don't I would like to hit a couple highlights for
you, just to tell you some of the things that are included in there. One would be we are
removing spires on churches from the height limits. We had quite a discussion and
education on the difference between a steeple and a spire and as we are beginning to
see more churches come into the city, we are finding that their combined steeples and
spires exceed our height limits. So, we have a code amendment that we think fixes that
problem. Secondly, we have created a common definition for pathways. As you know,
we have micro pathways and multi-use pathways and there was some problems with
uniformly addressing landscaping and construction standards for both of those. So,
basically, what we have done is while we still have those in the code definitions, we
refer to them as pathways, so we can start looking at them uniformly with respect to
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landscaping and that sort of thing. We have also cross-referenced pathway
construction standards in the UDC to the master pathway plan, so there now is that
nexus between those two documents when we do have pathways that are being
developed within -- and throughout our community. One of the issues, as President
Rountree knows, after we implemented the design review manual, we also changed the
standard for the number of -- amount of parking that can be located between the street
and the building facade. It used to be 70 percent, we lowered it to 50 percent. It was
becoming problematic, particularly on smaller lots and comer lots. So, what's been
proposed is that on lots under two acres there will be an allowance for a single drive
aisle with the parking on one or both sides to be allowed between the building and the
fronting street and another major one was buffer width reduction for landscape buffers.
The only way to reduce that dimensional standard was through a variance and we didn't
feel that that was the .appropriate vehicle, a variance, to address it, because oftentimes
while they might be unique circumstances, they weren't necessarily hardships or
physical circumstances which prevented it. So, in effect, you still see them, but what we
have done is made requests for buffer width reductions, a waiver by the Council, rather
than a variance. That way you're not constrained to the specific variance findings.
Another one was -- this is a big one. Allowing outdoor exercise areas for veterinary
clinics. Currently the code just prohibits -- just says no outdoor activities whatsoever
and that's what the intent was, to preclude the boarding and kenneling and that sort of
thing in exercising, but the reality is when they have patients there they do need to take
them outside, so there is a provision there that allows for the exercising of pet -- of
veterinary -- animal care facilities. I'm sorry. Under the supervision of the staff. And
another one was we changed the drive-thu requirements, so that a Conditional Use
Permit is not required if the facility was -- the drive-thru is across the street from another
one. Right now we required a Conditional Use Permit if it's within 300 feet, but if it's
separated by an arterial there is no good point in requiring the Conditional Use Permit.
And, finally, we have made some minor changes and at least we are starting with some
exemptions from design review. We have thrown in a couple of those that weren't
previously in the code. So, those are kind of the highlights of the recommendations and
I'd be happy to answer any other questions you might have.
Rountree: Okay. Any questions for Pete on the long list of amendments that we have
before us? I don't see any. Thank you, Pete. This is a public hearing. Pat, do you
want to testify? Okay. Seeing --
Bird: Frank's even left.
Rountree: Yeah. Frank left.
discussion?
Bird: I move we close Item 8-B.
Seeing no one to testify on this item, if there is any
Zaremba: Second.
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Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to close Item 8-B. All those in favor.
Opposed same sign? Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rountree: What's your pleasure on the text amendments?
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Rountree: Brad.
Hoaglun: I would move approval of ZOA 09-003.
Zaremba: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to approve the -- Item 8-B, Unified
Development Code Text Amendments. Roll call vote, if there is no discussion.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
C. MFP 09-002: Challis Subdivision by Tealey's Land Surveying
Located at 575 E. Franklin Road: Request to Modify a Plat
Condition Requiring Cross-Access and Cross-Parking for
Challis Subdivision
Rountree: Next item, 8-C, is the Challis Subdivision, Item 8-C, MFP 09-002. It is a
public hearing. Pete.
Friedman: Mr. President, Members of the Council, this is a modification to the final plat
-- or of the short plat of Challis Subdivision, which was approved by the City Council in
June of this year. It created three commercial lots at the comer of Stafford and Franklin.
With the approval of that short plat there was a condition that there be a blanket cross-
access and cross-parking easement noted on the face of the plat. Now that the first
building's been constructed and they have a better idea of how the site is going to
develop, plus having done some grading they are starting to find there is some
topographic differences and the -- Mr. Tealey, the applicant, was in speaking with us
and said that rather than have that note on the face of the plat, they would like to
replace it with a specific easement provision that grants cross-access to all three lots,
but eliminates the need for cross-parking, because of the way that the whole area is
going to be configured, it made since to us. He said, fine, I will just go ahead and file
those easements and record those and we said, well, that's all well and good, but you
can't do that, because the Council, actually, is the only body that can change those
conditions. And so he did file for a plat modification to remove that note from the face of
the plat and, then, just -- what he will do is he will prepare a specific easement as
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indicated by this exhibit, note that on the face of the final plat with an easement -- a
recorded number and staff is supportive of that request.
Rountree: Any questions for Pete? Comments? Testimony?
Tealey: Mr. President, Members of the Council -- really, no --
Rountree: If you could give us your name, please.
Tealey: Oh. Excuse me. Pat Tealey. And office address 187 East 50th in Garden
City. We originally submitted a site plan similar to this with our plat, but it wasn't made a
point of a discussion when it came to the Council. If this works -- does this pointer work
on here? Oops. Let's see. Which way do I have to go. There is about 12 feet of
difference between the eastern portion of the subdivision along Stafford and the western
portion there. So, the reason we did the site plan such it is, we knew we had grade
differences run in there and that that type of cross-access easement that's typically
required in a commercial subdivision wasn't going to work for us. The condition that
came out of -- the reason that we didn't realize that the blanket easement would be a
problem is that on site specific note number nine it just says across-access, cross-
parking easement agreement shall be recorded for all commercial lots within the
subdivision. It didn't mention the word blanket. So, we had a lawyer prepare the cross-
access and cross-parking agreement and thought we were going along pretty good until
we ran into needing a signature and so that the easement is prepared and we are ready
to go forth with it and agree with staffs -- what they think is the situation, basically. The
reason that the easement is where it is is they don't want people going through the
drive-in there on the bank, just having total access to it. They want to restrict the
access to this path that you see in front of you. That will be part of the cross-access
easement and they will delineate across-parking, if any, but it's going to be sort of hard
to cross-park on this thing, because of the grade differences and stuff that will be
spelled out in the agreement.
Rountree: Any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Rountree: No questions? Thank you. Any further comment, staff?
Friedman: No comment.
Rountree: Discussion? Need a motion.
Bird: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we close the public hearing on MFP 09-002.
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Hoaglun: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to the close public hearing on Item 8-C. All
those in favor? Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Bird: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve the changing of taking the note from the face of the plat
regarding cross-access and to record an easement agreement in lieu of the blanket
easement.
Hoaglun: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to approve the request of Item 8-C per the
motion. Roll call vote.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 9: Ordinances.
A. Ordinance No. :Alcohol Server Training
and Certification
B. Ordinance No. : RZ 09-003: Request
for Rezone of 5.02 Acres from R-8 (Medium Density
Residential) to L-O (Limited Office) Zone for Bainbridge by
Brighton Corporation Located South of Chinden Boulevard on
the West Side of North Ten Mile Road
Rountree: Next item is Ordinances. We have two ordinances. If you would read those
by title only, Madam Clerk.
Holman: Thank you, President Rountree. City of Meridian Ordinance No. 09-1437, an
ordinance of the City of Meridian creating a new chapter of Meridian City Code, Chapter
7, Title 3, of the Meridian City Code relating to alcohol server certification, definitions,
approved server training program, server and licensee requirements and enforcement.
Holman: City of Meridian Ordinance No. 09-1438, an ordinance RZ 09-003, Bainbridge,
for the rezone of a parcel of land located in the southeast one quarter of the northeast
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one quarter of Section 27, Township 4 North, Range 1 West, Boise Meridian, Ada
County, Idaho, as described in Attachment A and annexing certain lands and territory
situated in Ada County, Idaho, and adjacent and contiguous to the corporate limits of
the City of Meridian, as requested by the City of Meridian, establishing and determining
the land use zoning classification of said lands from R-8, Medium Density Residential
District, to L-O, Limited Office District, in the Meridian City Code, providing that copies
of this ordinance shall be filed with the Ada County assessor, the Ada County recorder,
and the Idaho State Tax Commission, as required by law, and providing for a summary
of the ordinance and providing for a waiver of the reading of the rules and providing an
effective date.
Rountree: You have heard the ordinances 9-A and B read by title only. Anyone wish to
hear them in their entirety? Seeing none, I need a motion.
Bird: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we approve ordinances 09-1437 and 09-1438 with suspension of rules.
Zaremba: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to approve ordinances in Item 9-A and B.
Roll call vote, please.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 10: Other Items.
A. Executive Session per Idaho State Code 67-2345(1)(fi) - to
Consider and Advise its Legal Representatives in Pending
Litigation
Rountree: Last item.
Bird: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move we go into Executive Session as per Idaho State Code 67-2345(1)(f).
Hoaglun: Second.
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Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to go into Executive Session for Item (1)(f).
Roll call vote.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, yea; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
EXECUTIVE SESSION: (8:12 p.m. to 8:35 p.m.)
Amend onto the Agenda:
• Roof on City Hall Approved motion to send a Notice of Rejection to
Western Roofing.
• Claim by Brown Construction Approved Motion to settle claim for
$60,000.00 with mediation fees.
• City Business for Next Two Weeks Approved motion to
allow the Mayor and Council President to sign routine
contracts and for those contracts to be ratified at the
first meeting in January
• Change to City Council Meeting Schedule Approved
motion to change City Council meeting schedule to
meet the first, second and fourth Tuesdays of each
month with the second meeting being a workshop
meeting and direct legal department to come back with
amended Ordinance
Rountree: We are out of Executive Session.
Nary: Mr. President?
Rountree: Yes.
Nary: Mr. President, I was going to recommend to the Council that you amend your
agenda tonight to include potentially two items, maybe three. The first item would be to
-- the first item is to address the issue of the roof on City Hall and Westem Roofing's
contract. The second is in relation to a claim against the city for payment of a contract
with Brown Construction and the last is for the processing of business over the next
three weeks until your next meeting of January 12th. Your reason for amending them at
this time is up until the completion of our last Executive Session you were unaware of
the necessity to add that to your agenda.
Rountree: Thank you, Mr. Nary.
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Zaremba: Mr. President, I move the agenda be amended as stated.
Hoaglun: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to amend the agenda as stated by Mr. Nary.
Just a voice vote?
Nary: Yes. Voice vote is okay.
Rountree: All those in favor? Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Rountree: Brad.
Hoaglun: For -- regarding the issue on the roof on City Hall, I would move that we direct
staff to send notice to Western Roofing that the City Hall roof has failed to maintain a
water tight condition and move forward from there with that issue -- situation.
Rountree: And that's issuing a notice of rejection?
Bird: Yes.
Hoaglun: Yes.
Bird: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to issue a notice of rejection on the leaky City
Hall roof. Voice vote?
Nary: Yes.
Rountree: All in favor? Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Hoaglun: Mr. President?
Rountree: Brad.
Hoaglun: I would move that we approve the settlement of the claim by Brown
Construction in the amount of 60,000 dollars, also with the approval of payment of
mediation fees.
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Bird: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to resolve the Brown Construction issue and
with payment 60,000 dollars, plus the mediation fees. Voice vote.
Roll-Call: Bird, yea; Rountree, yea; Zaremba, abstain; Hoaglun, yea.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES. ONE ABSTAIN.
Hoaglun: And, Mr. President, one more. Since we are not meeting on the 29th of
December, which is a fifth Tuesday and we'd lack a quorum on January 5th, Iwould --
Nary: Mr. President, Members of the Council --
Rountree: Bill.
Nary: What I would recommend is your motion be that simply the Mayor and Council
President approve any necessary signatures for just the routine business that needs to
be done until January 12th and anything that they find be then put on your agenda for
January 12th for your review for any contracts or agreements that are necessary that
can't wait until the 12th.
Hoaglun: Mr. President, I would move that the Mayor or Council President have the
authority to sign and complete -- contract the city business on routine items and that the
City Council ratify those actions at their earliest meeting.
Zaremba: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded. Discussion? All in favor? Motion passes.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Bird: Mr. President?
Rountree: Mr. Bird.
Bird: Before we adjourn, I --Iwould like to make a motion that we -- seeing how we
don't have a third the business that we had in 1998 when I come on board, I don't know
when is the last time we done a land development. I move that we go back to meeting
-- until further business, we go back to meeting the first and third as land meetings. The
second is a workshop. And the fourth and fifth no meeting.
Rountree: And that notes the first and third Tuesday. The second Tuesday would be a
workshop and no further meetings for the month and -- would the motion -- well, I guess
let's get a second on that. Is there a second?
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Zaremba: I'll second.
Rountree: Okay. It's been moved and seconded. Would the motion maker consider
that the workshops go back to the intent of the workshops that they start at 6:00 o'clock,
we try to hold them to two hours. We concentrate on -- on our departments and not
necessarily city business, and that we --
Bird: The maker of the motion would really enjoy that. And I also think that we discuss
ordinances and stuff like we used to. We don't need to be having departments justify
jobs. We all know that they got enough to do anyway.
Hoaglun: Mr. President, inquiry of the maker of the motion. In February I believe we
won't have a quorum on the 3rd Tuesday in March -- in February. If that occurs would
we, then, still have three meetings that month, we would just move business to the
fourth Tuesday?
Bird: I guess we will have to.
Hoaglun: Is that --
Bird: That we can take care of when we get to it.
Rountree: And I guess final question for the maker of the motion, it's your intent, then,
that the staff would prepare a resolution as such, so we can amend our meeting
ordinance as such to accommodate the motion?
Bird: I would -- just a resolution, because I don't want to change the ordinance,
because, hopefully, one of these days we will get busy again.
Nary: Mr. President, Mr. Bird, you will have to take the ordinance. The ordinance is
specific. So, if you want to change the dates of your meetings --
Bird: Okay. I'll change the ordinance.
Nary: You can cancel them.
Bird: And I don't know why we would ever have to not do it, but --
Nary: The only suggestion I would make, Mr. Bird, so we don't run into the same
problem of the fourth and fifth Tuesday, like we are for the next two weeks, you may
want to consider whether or not you want it to be the first, second and fourth Tuesdays
of the month to meet and, then, where you shouldn't, unless you lack a quorum, have it
anytime where you're not going to have -- you're going to have no more than one
meeting you will miss or one Tuesday you will miss. But you will have about four or five
times a year that you would have the fourth and fifth Tuesdays off.
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Bird: You will have four times when you have five Tuesdays. You're right. I have no
problem with going with the first, third, and -- or first, second, and fourth. Second
agrees?
Zaremba: Mr. President, that was, actually, going to be a comment of mine, so that we
don't run into regularly have two weeks in a row where we don't have anything.
Rountree: All right.
Zaremba: If I may, though, I would ask the clerk -- we really have that little business?
Do you know thinking out far ahead is that going to be a struggle?
Holman: President Rountree, Members of the Council, Councilman Zaremba, I don't
think so, as long as you will still allow us to have a Consent Agenda on the workshop. I
think it helps to move -- if we are going to be canceling a meeting, I think it's important
to still be able to move things on the Consent Agenda for a workshop.
Zaremba: Makes sense.
Rountree: Do you want me to try and restate that motion?
Bird: I don't know if I can. I'd move that we -- if the second pulls, I pull my first. I move
that we change until work demands our meetings to the first, second, and fourth
Tuesday of the month. The first and the fourth Tuesday will be regular land planning
meetings. The second will be a workshop starting at 6:00 o'clock and being just a
workshop where we go through ordinances or any department needs and we can add a
Consent Agenda.
Holman: President Rountree, Members of the Council, Councilman Bird, so my
question on the two that you're saying are land use ones --
Bird: That's your full blown meeting.
Holman: Are there any other items that are allowed on those agendas or just -- just the
way they have been?
Bird: Just the way they have been.
Rountree: Regular business.
Bird: Regular business.
Nary: What -- maybe if I could help clarify. What you're talking about is, essentially, the
regular order of business, any statutorily required public hearings and the like and, then,
on the workshop there won't be any statutorily required public hearings, so we would
never notice a public hearing for that -- for that one. If there is something the Council
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wants to set for that, that's up to them to set that. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any
statutory public hearings.
Bird: I would say that we could do it as we have done in the past of setting the agenda
for the workshop, the Council President sees that he needs a public hearing that we can
do it, but I don't want it to become a habit.
Nary: The example I was thinking is the gentleman tonight that was asking for a fee
waiver.
Bird: I agree with --
Nary: Versus a final plat or the land use types or things that no statute is required.
Rountree: So, you have heard the motion. You have heard some discussion. You
have heard another motion. You have heard more discussion. The first motion was
seconded and the second motion restated has not been seconded. Do I have a
second?
Zaremba: I'll second it.
Rountree: Okay. It's been moved and seconded to approve the motion as stated. All
those in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Rountree: All right. I need one more motion.
Hoaglun: Move to adjoum.
Bird: Second.
Rountree: It's been moved and seconded to adjoum. All in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:46 P.M.
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