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MERIDIAN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING: OCTOBER 10.1995
APPLICANT: JOE AMY~C AGENDA I TEM NUMBER: 16
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REQUEST: DISCUSSION OF DEVELOPMENT IDEAS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1095 EAST
FRANKLIN ROAD
AGENCY
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RECEIVED
O C T - Z 1995
CITY OF 1~ERIDIAN
AMYX BUILDER, INC.
10285 ALLIANCE
BOISE, IDAHO 83704
September 28, 1995
Meridian City
Meridian city Clerk
Meridian, Idaho 83642
RE: Planning and Zoning-Agenda-Oct. 10, 1995
Please place Amyx Builder, Inc., Joseph Amyx, on your next agenda,
to dicuss options and ideas for annexation opportunity for property
commonly known as 1095 E. Franklin rd., Meridian, Idaho. See
Exhibit "A" enclosed.
Sincerely,
Amyx Builder, Inc.
Joseph W. Amyx
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A PARCEL OF LAND IN THE NORTHWEST QUARTER OF THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF SECTION 18,
TOWNSHIP .NORTH, RANGE 1 EAST, OF THE BOISE MERIDIAN, ADA COUNTY, IDAHO, DESCRIBED AS
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BEGINNING AT THE QUARTER OF SECTION CORNER COMMON TO SECTIONS 7 AND 18, IN THE ABOVE
TOWNSHIP AND RANGE, THENCE
NORTH 89 DEGREES 50' EAST ALONG THE NORTH LINE OF SECTION 18, A DISTANCE OF 1013.0 FEET
TO THE REAL POINT OF BEGINNING, THENCE
SOUTH 0 DEGREE 18' WEST 150.0 FEET, THENCE
NORTI~ 89 DEGREES 50' EAST 76.0 FEET, THENCE
NORTi•i 0 DEGREE 18' EAST 150.0 FEET TO THE SECTION UNE, THENCE
SOU?f ; 89 DEGREES 50" WEST 76.0 FEET ALONG THE SECTION UNE TO THE REAL POINT OF
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A TRACT OF LAND IN THE NORTHWEST QUARTER OF THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF SECTION 18,
TOWNSHIP 3 NORTH, RANGE 1 EAST, BOISE MERIDIAN, ADA COUNTY, IDAHO, MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS:
COMMENCII•IG AT THE NORTH ONE-QUARTER SECTION CORNER OF SAID SECTION 18, THENCE
NORTH 89 DEGREES 50' EAST ALONG THE SECTION LINE 1165.00 FEET TO THE REAL POINT OF
BEGINNING, THENCE
SOUTH 0 DEGREE 18' WEST 282.00 FEET TO A POINT, THENCE
NORTH 89 DEGREES 50' EAST' 162.00 FEET TO A POINT, THENCE
SOUTH 0 DEGREE 18' WEST 1045.00 FEET TQ A POINT, THENCE
NORTH 53 DEGREES 20' WEST 150.00 FEET TO A POINT, THENCE
NORTH 63 DEGREES 00' WEST 188.28 FEET TO A POINT, THENCE
NORTH 0 DEGREE 18' EAST 1001.11 FEET TO A PO!~!T, THFNC_;E
NORTH 89 DEGREES 50' EAST 51'.00 FEET TO A POINT, THENCE
NORTH 0 DEGREE 18' EAST 150.00 FEET TO A POINT ON THE SECTION UNE, THENCE
NORTH 89 DEGREES 50' EAST ALONG THE SECTION LINE 76.00 FEET TO THE REAL POINT OF ..
BEGINNING.
END OF LEGAL DESCRIPTION
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WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., City Clerk
JANICE L. GASS, City Treasurer
GARY D. SMITH, P.E., City Engineer
BRUCE D. STUART, Water Works Supt.
JOHN T SHAWCROFT, Waste Water Supt.
DENNIS J. SUMMERS, Parks Supt.
SHARI S. STILES, P & Z Adm.
PATTY A. WOLFKIEL, DMV Supervisor
KENNETH W. BOWERS, Fire Chief
W.L. "BILL" GORDON, Police Chief
WAYNE G. CROOKSTON, JR., Attorney
MEMORANDUM
GRANT P. KINGSFORD
Mayor
TO: Planning & Zoning Commission
FROM: Gary D. Smith, PE
RE: Joe Amyg Property
Franklin Road
COUNCIL MEMBERS
RONALD R. TOLSMA
MAX YERRINGTON
ROBERT D. CORRIE
WALT W. MORROW
P & Z COMMISSION
JIM JOHNSON, Chairman
MOE ALIDJANI
JIM SHEARER
CHARLIE ROUNTREE
TIM HEPPER
October 6, 1995
It is my understanding that Joe Amyx finds himself in the following situation with this property.
O He purchased the small parcel fronting Franklin Road, on which exists a residential unit, and at
the same time he also purchased the adjacent larger parcel having some frontage on Franklin Road
and extending south to the Hunter Lateral. Reportedly, each of these parcels have a separate tax
parcel number and are in the county.
O He improved the residential house and sold it.
O The domestic water well for the house is located on the larger parcel of ground, not on the
smaller parcel that he sold with the house. The party to whom he sold the house asked to
purchase a piece of the larger parcel that would contain the well so that he had access to the well.
O Joe approached Ada County to see what he needed to do to sell a small piece of the larger
parcel that would contain the well. Ada County said he couldn't do this, and in fact, (I am not
sure why) he couldn't sell the small parcel that contains the residential unit.
O At this point apparently the party to whom Joe Amyx sold the home and small parcel has filed
suit against Joe because the County is claiming the sale is illegal. I believe Joe has gone through
some kind of appeal process with Ada Coulrty.
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O I understand that Joe is looking for some kind of relief through the City of Meridian by having
the property annexed and zoned whereby he can transfer title for the small parcel to the parry
wanting to purchase it.
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Rountree: So moved
Hepper: Second
Johnson: It is moved and seconded that all of the testimony presented by the public and
the applicant and his representative be incorporated into, given under item #14 the
request for annexation and zoning be incorporated also into the conditional use permit
request item #15, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Johnson: At this time then I will close the public hearing.
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I move we have findings of fact and conclusions prepared on this
item.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: We have a motion and a second to prepare findings of fact and conclusions of
law on the conditional use permit requested by Mr. Bill Howell, all those in favor?
Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #16: JOE AMYX: DISCUSSION OF DEVELOPMENT IDEAS FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 1095 E. FRANKLIN ROAD:
Johnson: Is Mr. Amyx here and would like to talk to the Commission? We kind of got an
idea of what you have got, we have your map and things. We probably need it explained
the best you can.
Amyx: Basically what has happened is I bought two pieces of property I sold one and Ada
County, I wanted to sell a little more ground to them to do (inaudible) anyhow I wanted to
sell them enough land to cover the well. I started going through all the right channels and
doing everything and Ada County says you can't do that. I said, why can't I do this, the
house was built and sold separate property in 1964. That was before they had any zoning
or anything to do anything with it. He said yes but you bought the piece of ground next to
it. Then when you bought the piece of ground next to it and when you bought the piece
of ground next to it due to an obscure law they became one piece of property. What
happened is they didn't rule on the fact that what the law, they just ruled on the fact of
what they had done was legal. They didn't say that is a bad situation and we see where
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you are at, it was oh no the law is there and that is what we care and that is where it is at.
I have sold the piece of ground, 1 had no reason to believe that it wasn't a separate piece
of property, it was deeded that way it was annexed that way. I checked with the title
company when I bought it. Everything seemed to be in order, they basically caught me on
a really obscure law and like I told them I can't imagine, I have been building for 30 years
and haven't been caught on that before. but that is where we stand. At this present time
I am before you, I am trying to figure out some way to do make legal what I have got done.
I don't have any understanding of why this would be a problem, the house was there, the
ground is there and before I develop it I will have to come before you guys again to get
approval of whatever I do. So I guess I feel like I am not asking much I am asking just for
what was done in 1964.
Johnson: Have you seen the synopsis letter Gary Smith has written?
Amyx: Yes, he just gave that me just a few minutes ago.
Johnson: He mentioned an item, well he didn't number them, but happy face number 5 that
you might be going through an appeal process at this time at the County, have you already
initiated that?
Amyx: I already went through that and they turned me down.
Johnson: Okay that is finished and you were denied on that?
Amyx: Two voted against me and one voted in favor of me.
Johnson: Well it seems to me you are coming to the City of Meridian because you realize
that we have cooler and more logical heads here.
Amyx: Actually that is true and I do feel that way. I feel like Meridian is really an I don't
know if I should be saying this but Meridian has done a heck of a lot better job as far as
roads and the way subdivisions go in than Boise has. I have to commend you guys on
that.
Johnson: Well, it does look like you are in the trickle so to speak. At this time does the
Commission have any questions directly to Mr. Amyx?
Rountree: Just an idea of what you might be considering with the remainder of the
property.
Amyx: Actually I have no plans for it at all. I bought it as a long term investment, I figured
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it would either go commercial or something to that effect. I thought about trailer houses
and 1 know I have already been told no way. I don't have a problem with basically
anything. It is going to be developed into something. And that something I can work
around at this time 1 have no idea what it would be to or for and like I proposed something
if and when 1 do decide it would have to come before you guys. So it would have to meet
your approval at that time.
Johnson: Where is the property contiguous to the City limits at this time?
Amyx: Actually I think you are right across the street.
Johnson: That makes it legal as far as being contiguous?
Amyx: Basically I am one lot from the cemetery. Right next to the big piece of parcel they
have been trying to develop on the corner of Franklin and Locust Grove.
Johnson: Do you have any questions Wayne at all?
Crookston: I don't have any questions, you would just have to meet all of the existing
ordinances of the City of Meridian though.
Amyx: And that is to what, basically I would have tried to rezone as far as what Ada
County suggested but the problem is I can't rezone meeting the front footage to the
property because it doesn't exist. I guess that was one of the key factors that happens.
I am only like 70 to 75 feet, the house is like 76 feet and there is 70 to 79 feet for the
adjacent parcel that goes back. There is no way I can meet the criteria to that without I
don't know how. And like I said it was sold and done prior to any zoning with me to okay.
Crookston: I would just suggest that you get with our Planning and Zoning Administrator
Shari Stiles and talk to her about that.
Amyx: Well her suggestion or hers and Gary's was that I come before you guys and at
least let you know what the situation it and where I am at with it. Like I said I can't change
what is already there it is there and it was done prior to any zoning ordinances that were
done. I can't there is no way I can make it legal that I know of and that is what I am trying
to find, I am trying to find someway that is going to get to the point of where it was. That
is all I am trying to do.
Crookston: That is my recommendation just to inform you that you would have to meet the
existing ordinances that the City has now unless you were able to obtain a variance from
an ordinance which would have to be granted by the City Council.
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Amyx: Okay
Crookston: If you couldn't meet the ordinances right now.
Johnson: Does anyone else have any questions or discussion points? In order for us to
act on it we would need an application for annexation and zoning, right? That is the only
way we could solve his problem. It is a good .idea to sit down with Shari prior to that and
she what she wants incorporated or she. would suggest that you incorporate into your
application and we will see if we can help you out.
Amyx: Okay, do you guys have anything that you would like in there, do you have any
feelings of what you want there?
Johnson: Well, it would help if you tear the house down. I think we are trying to work with
you is what we are telling you. Wayne is in a position that he has to advise you that we still
have the ordinances to follow and the only people that can override that is the City and if
they consider that to be a legitimate and worthwhile variance you know without harming
anyone else they would probably do that. But it also might be a good idea that you talk to
some of the City people as well, the City Council members as well. It would be a real good
idea since they are always suggesting people talk to us. Talk to three or four of those
people and talk to Shari Stiles and then you can get your application to us. And the
process is a 120 day minimum.
Amyx: Thank you
ITEM #17: AMENDED FINDINGS OF FACT AND AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR
ENGLEWOOD CREEK SUBDIVISION REQUEST TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED
MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE OF 1800 DOWN TO 1500 SQUARE FEET:
Johnson: Any questions regarding these findings of fact that have been prepared here,
these have been amended to my understanding that is the only change is the house size.
Crookston: That is correct, there are some other very minor things but they don't address
specifics of it.
Johnson: Someone like to make a motion on the findings then if there is no further
discussion?
Rountree: Mr. Chairman I move that we adopt and approve the Amended findings of fact
and conclusions.