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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000 12-05 Pre Meridian City Pre-Council Meeting December 5, 2000 The Meridian City Pre-Council meeting was called to order on Tuesday, December 5, 2000, at 6:30 p.m. by Mayor Robert D. Corrie. Members Present: Robert Corrie, Cherie McCandless, Ron Anderson, Tammy de Weerd, Keith Bird Others Present: Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Bill Gordon, Bill Nichols, Will Berg Corrie: Okay, I’ll open the Pre-Council meeting at Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Tuesday, December 5th. Let the record show that all the Councilpersons are in attendance. First off, we’ll have discussion with Pat Nelson from ACHD regarding the Commuter Ride program. Pat. Nelson: Thank you, Mayor Corrie, Councilmen, my name’s Pat Nelson; I work for Ada County Highway District, the Commuter Ride Coordinator. I’m here tonight along with our contractor, Terry Lindenburgh from Treasure Valley Transit to report to you on the progress of our Treasure Valley metro system. I've handed out a shiny black folder that has the information in it. Just to give you a little bit of background, as you recall we put a website poll together and tried to find out what would be the most successful commuter ride coming into Boise or to Micron. Meridian citizens voted the most for services that start from Meridian into Downtown Boise. Our commute shuttle started in June. The mid-day shuttle that Treasure Valley Transit started was a little bit more successful than we were in getting started. They started their operation in April with five buses per day. Originally it started out to be four. Terry saw the need and got enough people to call her office; that she boosted that up to five hours per day providing hourly service both from Canyon County to Meridian and Meridian into Downtown Boise. There is a sheet on the right side that indicates what the funding breakdown was for those commuter shuttles. We did start an advertising campaign to start boosting the ridership right away; right now it looks like we have about 42 riders per day that are taking just the commuter side of the shuttle. You have to keep in mind that these buses that are 16- or 18-passenger buses, and the ridership numbers are in there for you. In November, there were four or five of the morning routes, and I think three or four of the afternoon routes that were at capacity or above. On several days we’ve had 22 passengers riding on one bus. We’re to the point right now where we want to know your feelings on whether we should continue this operation. We have an opportunity to go back into Idaho Transportation Department and ask for grant funding for the Year 2002. They do have a bit more money that’s available. We’ve tried this last year and were turned down on our application because we didn’t have the air-quality benefits that they thought we should have to justify funding it. We think with the current ridership numbers, the number of people that are trying to ride and are not able to ride because of a capacity problem that we might have a better shot this year at getting a 2002 funding. It would require about $17,000 worth of match in our first application. Meridian had indicated that they were interested in providing that match to us to match the CMAQ federal dollar. That would be, again, what we would be asking for to go back into another grant cycle to keep the commuter cycle operational. We do have some plans to go out with a survey to the ridership. There is a copy of that in the packet, also. To find out – if we tweaked the schedule just a bit, if we could probably move some of those passengers to one of three buses rather than have them all crowd onto two. We’ll know the results of that survey probably within the next two weeks, and if they agreed to it, we will tweak the schedule the 1st of January and see what we can have happen then. Survey. Don’t have it? Bird: Yes, we do. Nelson: Did you get a copy of it or did you want it? Okay. We feel like the ridership does really build up -- our first initial estimate was going to be 10 passengers per bus that we would be considering successful on, and so far it’s – we’re right at that number right now. November we did have a little bit of ridership decline, but part of that was due to the two days that we have holidays in November, and the ridership was about half on both those days. That brought the average down to nine passengers per trip. Right now the fares that we gather on that are still a dollar per ride which is quite reasonable especially when you consider the gas costs. We’re gathering about 14 percent of the cost of the vehicle, the operational costs, through those ridership fares. I think BUS is about 18 percent; 16 to 18 percent is above average for the fare recapture of the cost vehicle. Do you have any questions so far? Bird: Mr. Mayor, Pat, what do you figure the cost per mile of the bus is? Is it a buck 25, a buck 50? Nelson: Right now we’re charged 73 dollars per trip. That includes the deadhead, the mileage into Boise, and I would imagine the trip back. It’s probably 15 miles, maybe more than that. Twenty-five miles. Bird: So we’re looking at 25 miles, so we’re looking at about three dollars a mile. That’s not bad. Nelson: We had tried to find out a way that we could expand the capacity on these buses or find some additional buses that were larger. When we first started the program we didn’t want the public perception of having the bus half empty and didn’t know how successful we would be, so we purposefully asked for smaller buses. Now we’ve got a problem with getting all the bodies in that small bus. Treasure Valley Transit – that is a nice problem. Still, if you get on a bus and you have to ride to Boise going 60 miles an hour, if you’re lucky that morning, standing up is probably not a real good option. So we’ve got to look at expanding the size of the vehicle. Treasure Valley Transit does not have – currently have any vehicles that are bigger than that. So we either have to find away to get larger buses on it or put an additional route on possibly to take care of those passengers that are being displaced because of capacity. Bird: Pat, why couldn’t if we had to put an additional one – this is only happening on one or two routes as I understand it. Do they have a smaller bus that we could have as a back-up bus? Nelson: Terry, do you want to answer that? I’m sure it will cost. Bird: I understand that, but if I’m paying a dollar – I hate to say that I don’t think it’s safe to have people standing up going into Boise, and I don’t like to see that. By the same token, if you go to a 40- or 50-passenger bus, you’ve only got 22 people on it, then the public is going to start yelling or screaming that we’re not using their taxpayer dollar right. Lindenburgh: At the present time, Treasure Valley Transit does not have enough vehicles, or operating costs to implement additional buses, but that brings me to another point. Pat had mentioned the CMAQ funding. That can also be asked for capital equipment. One of my thoughts were regarding our mid-day shuttle, and one thing -- another aspect of TVTS received numerous phone calls from Meridian residents wanting a city route in Meridian comparable to what we have in Nampa and Caldwell. What I propose is that TVT write the Congestive Mitigation Air Quality Grant for two vehicles in 2002, and this would also require match; for example, for $430,000 worth of equipment which would be a 24- plus 2-passenger vehicle. I am right in the process now of specing out such a vehicle, for as Pat was talking about the commuter shuttle that right now TVT does. I am hoping to find that information out and put these vehicles out -- to go out for bid in April. If that is successful and these vehicles are larger, we would not have a 40-passenger we would have a 26-passenger, which I think would be the next logical step. What I propose is to have sponsorship by the City of Meridian to write the grant. There is no guarantee that we may get it, but if we do the cost to the City of Meridian would be $17,000 which is 7.34 percent of the actual grant. TVT was successful in acquiring such a grant last year that enables us to get two vehicles per year for Canyon County. So I think we stand a great chance since we were successful before. So, for $17,000 your $230,000 worth of vehicle and that would put a 12-hour Meridian City route into operation as well as expand the mid-day, because we were talking about how it went from four hours to five hours, but still it’s a mid-day block. People are hesitant to ride, because they can’t go to the mall and spend more than two hours. Were an eight-hour route gives more flexibility; not as much as 12 hours but it is a beginning. So, that’s what I am looking at. And for operational cost of those 20 hours per day that would go to Meridian, you would be looking at a total $41,750 worth of operating from the City of Meridian. Now this is in 2002, and TVT for the total operations was talking about a $182,000. Of that $182,000 to actually operate it, $41,000 would come from Meridian so if you look at the $17,000 for the vehicles and the $41,000 of operating cost for two routes. You are under $60,000 dollars, and you are accessing quite a bit of grant funds which would enable the service. So that is what I am looking at. Bird: So we would have $17,000 dollars plus another $24,750 dollars for operations on the other bus; who on this grant has the ownership on this bus? The 24 passengers, that if the City of Meridian is putting the $17,000 down, does that revert to Treasure Valley? Lindenburgh: Treasure Valley Transit. Bird: It does, okay. Lindenburgh: Unless you want it. Bird: No, I am looking the legality, that’s why I am looking at Bill over here, of us giving $17,000 for a capital improvement that goes in someone else’s name. Nelson: Another option you might take a look at is all of us at some point or time will be part of Via-Trans; it might be the first step in getting equipment for Via -Trans that can be used in Meridian. The match still has to be provided, but the legal owner might be Via-Trans. I don’t want to take it away from Treasure Valley Transit, but that might be more legal than have a Canyon County provider own the equipment. Bird: The thing I was thinking about was the liability, that if we purchase that and it is in your name, but there is a major accident, the lawyers start suing how much liable is the City going to be without being in our name? Is our insurance underwriter going to pick that up for us, or are we going to be hanging out there by ourselves? Nelson: Well, from what I understand with the CMAQ grant that was for Canyon County, it was in issue of sponsorship, basically. As a private non-profit even though we are public transportation, and this will be changing, too,there is going to be a lot of different things occurring when the census becomes official, because right now we are a private non-profit. Once the census goes into effect, we are going to have to go under a governmental body. Those are things that we are going to be dealing with through Via-Trans on how those thing will come about, and that will probably be in 2002 when these things all come into play. Right now with TVT, Canyon County sponsored the grant, and in liability, everything rest on TVT. We are heavily insured. Bird: No, I am just bringing the legality of it. I think it is a great program. I think $17,000 for a bus is very, very cheap and I have no problem with it , for two bus. I don’t want to stick City’s neck out to get it chopped off. Nelson: I think we are looking at two separate grants. One is for the buses, the capital equipment. The other would be for purchase of service for the commuter side. Bird: But , that the cost of $34,000; $17,000 for the buses Nelson: That would take care of your (inaudible). The mid-day. That does not cover the commuter side. That’s an additional fee. Bird: That’s what I was going to say. You want $17,000 and she wants $17,000 for the grant but another $24,750 for the operation. You take $17,000 out of $41,750. Nelson: The $17,000 was for the vehicle and then for the operational cost for 20 hours worth of service which would be including the new route, a 12-hour service which we could implement. This is not necessary, it is always good to have a back-up budget too. If we looked at the most service possible, adding a twelve hour Meridian City route, and continuing and expanding the five-hour mid-day to and eight hour, would be 20 hour service with a total operational cost to the City of $41,750 so it’s a total of not quite $58,750. Bird: Okay, I am sorry misunderstood you. I thought we took the $17,000 out of the $41,750 dollars. Instead we have to add up so its $58,750 to Treasure Valley and $17,000 for Pat’s grant. So we are looking at $75,750. Corrie: Is it $17,500 or $17,000? Nelson: It’s about $17,000. It’s 7.34 percent of the grant amount that we are going for is $225,000. $200,000 for the commuter service and 25,000 for marketing. Corrie: So we are looking at $75,750 dollars or somewhere. Bird: And what fiscal year is that for Pat? Is it for now? Nelson: It is for 2002. Bird: Okay, so it is something we would need to budget coming summer for this next year. Nelson: I think in your current budget I thought that we had talked about there was money for the commuter shuttle in the approved budget that you are working under right now. Is that correct? Bird: Yes, there is. Nelson: We have been able to stretch the WYE funding to cover the shuttle up through October, but after October 1st we do not have anything for operations. There is nothing there, and I would hate to see this die after it has been proven successful. Bird: I think you would get hung if you did. Nelson: Via-Trans now has an Intern Director. We her, Kelly Fairless to try to put together a CMAQ application for the next purchase of service through TVT or any other contractor that we decided. That did include one more bus. So, we would have five runs in the morning and five in the afternoon. It would still fall under that $17,000 local match. Bird: That is what I was going to ask you, on October 1, 2001, you would want the $17,000 and that would cover us even without the WYE Grant. Nelson: Right, it would be a CMAQ Grant, if we get it! Bird: What if we do not get it? What do we do then, Pat? You do not start something like this and get it built up and stop it. Nelson: I know. I am open for suggestions because is we don’t have the CMAQ we have Surface Transportation Funds which are highway funds which are very protected by the highway folks. I do not think you are going to get any money there. We have Via-Trans which does not have a budget. They do not have an income source. The only other place would be to go to the County and to the cities involved to ask for contributions for it. Bird: When will we know on this grant if we would be successful? When will you apply for this grant? Nelson: The applications have to be into COMPASS by January or February, but it has to go to Via-Trans it has to go through, if we are the contract agency it would have to go through my commissioners. So I would imagine we would have to write in December have it approved to go on to Idaho Transportation Department in January or February. We probably will not know for sure whether it is even on the priorities list I don’t imagine until May. So we are talking very late in the year. Budget times are already pretty well into place. Bird: That is what I am saying we are starting into budgets already and we need to know which way we are going to jump. Nelson: We talked about increasing the passenger cost. You do lose a lot of people when you do that. In our vanpool business you can’t raise the vanpools past the cost of what you put in your gas tank, or people will not ride. This little service has been so well received by people; the flexibility of getting on anyone of those four shuttles in the morning and afternoon is invaluable. The mid-day portion is a big hit with people because they can get back to their car if they want to any time of the day. Bird: And it is going to grow as we grow and we add the hours on and the buses on. It is going to do nothing but grow. We need to have a Plan B in place. De Weerd: So we have it through the end of 2002? Nelson: We have it through October of 2001. De Weerd: Oh, 2001. Nelson: We have one year. Originally it had been scheduled to cut the WYE funding the 1st of October, but we did have some savings throughout other parts of the project that we could put towards the Metro. It is going to be real tight. I guess I am just after guidance on which direction you would like us to go. Is it something that you would be interested in sponsoring the CMAQ application, if we put that in, to continue it for one more year? We can apply for 2002; there is no CMAQ openings for 2003, so we will be back to square one unless Via-Trans has some kind of funding in place for 2003. Corrie: I guess we are going to the legislature with it anyway. Nelson: It would be nice if we could work faster, I guess, and get that in place a little bit earlier, but it just takes time to get the legislature people prepared for local option taxing, I guess. As far as Treasure Valley Transit’s proposal, is that something you would be interested in pursuing? Bird: Yes, I would. Nelson: Local service? Bird: I would. Definitely. You bet. I think as we grow, a bus would really --within the city. Nelson: We have gotten some preliminary feedback from Jabil that they want the Canyon-County-to-Jabil shuttle. We have got some interest there. Terry is working on that to see if maybe she can make that connection with the current system that we have. Our Park-and-Ride is pretty well on track for next spring out by the Ford dealership. We hope to have that up and running. Poor little Gem Street out here by the bowling alley is full to capacity. We were talking in the office today about maybe renting that piece of property, if they are willing to, to the south of Gem Street and maybe putting gravel or something in there so that we can put some more cars in there, if that is possible, if Shari will let us do that. Bird: Does State still have that? Does States Investment still own that? Nelson: Is that what it was? Okay. But we are real happy with the shuttle and way it is operating. We could not ask for better service from TVT, and we would just like your endorsement to move forward on it. Corrie: Mr. Anderson, do you have anything? Anderson: No, I think I got most of my questions answered. (inaudible) Corrie: Any other questions? Bird: I have none, Mayor. Corrie: I guess the only thing you are asking is if we go with the sponsorship to CMAQ funds and that would be -- Bird: All of these are for 2002 budget year, so that it is not affecting this year’s budget. I am for it. Corrie: Tammy? De Weerd: Yes. Corrie: Mr. Anderson? Anderson: I am for it, but I guess I am cautious because I am worried about the City’s ability to fund, and we are committing ourselves to a lot of things coming up. So I guess I am just cautiously optimistic. I think it is a good program, and I supported it initially, and I still do. We have very limited funding and we have to do some things to increase our funding, and that is a big chunk to commit. It is a good buy, no doubt, as you demonstrated, but I am just not sure about our ability to fund. Corrie: Cherie? McCandless: I have to agree with Ron, I am very much in favor of it also, but we will have to look at our funding. Corrie: Okay, do you want to talk about it a little bit more before we give Pat a decision of sponsorship for the CMAQ funds with the ACHD (inaudible)? Nelson: I have to get the blessing from my commissioners to, to do this. It might be through Via-Trans. We find out on the 14th. We are going to be asking the Chairman and Vice Chairman if that is something that they want to sponsor, I mean, they want to submit it as a public agency. Corrie: So what is your timetable from us then? Nelson: Probably within the next two weeks some kind of indication of whether you would be interested keeping in mind that you folks could play a big part in helping convince the legislature that we need this authority to raise funds. Not just from Meridian citizens, but throughout the whole valley. Your citizens are also Ada County citizens so maybe we should be talking to Ada County Commissioners for contributions for this also. De Weerd: Mr. Mayor, I think it needs to be remembered, too, that this air-quality suit that is in front of us needs to be a major part in this consideration, and because of the steps that we are taking to address air-quality issues, road funding will continue to be available. If we do not take it serious and do not support some of these alternative transportation items that we have available to us, we may be lessening or increasing the air-quality issues to a point were we lose monies to build and improve roads. So it is kind of a Catch-22, and it might be a small investment that in the long run is a huge one. So we also have to look at the long-term ramifications of this, too. Corrie: And to Pat, correct me if I am wrong. We made a commitment on this lawsuit what we are reducing, and this will definitely help. Plus our landscaping ordinance is going to give us some credits there, too. I agree that I think that we need to take a close look, and we will get with you as soon as we will be back in two weeks and give you a decision. I think it sounds pretty good right now, but you never know. I will also talk to the Ada County Commissioners on this as well. DeWeerd: I think that it is an opportunity, Pat, to send a strong message to the legislature that because of some of the policies that they have put on municipalities with the three-percent cap and those sort of things there are really tying the hands of local municipalities. We have some serious issues in funding and keeping our services inline with the growth and being able to offer our citizens what they need. That message, as far as Meridian goes, will be coming out very strongly from our community. These kind of efforts are certainly things we can start hanging our hats on and being big advocates for. Corrie: Anything else? Bird: I have nothing. DeWeerd: Thank you, Pat, Terry. Corrie: With that on the Via-Tran is there anybody that would like to be on that Via-Tran Committee? I’ve got myself and Gary Smith. Would one of the two of you like to be -- Bird: You were supposed to appoint the alternates. Corrie: If I appoint them would you accept it? I mean whoever is up here. I see Cherie is saying, yes. McCandless: I am. Corrie: Okay. Since we are into the Pre-Council meeting, I guess I should go into agendas and questions for Council and staff. Item D. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: JB’s Restaurant at 1565 Meridian Road: Approve Item E. Beer 2001 Renewal: Pizza Hut Restaurant at 675 South Progress: Approve Item F. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Fred Meyer’s Store at 1850 East Fairview Avenue: Approve Item G. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Ultra Touch Carwash at 835 East Fairview Avenue: Approve Item H. Beer and Liquor 2001 Renewal: Whitewater Saloon at 1646 North Meridian Road: Approve Item I. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Jackson’s Food Stores No. 1 at 412 Fairview Avenue: Approve Item J. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Jackson’s Food Stores No. 56 at 66 East State Street: Approve Item K. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Jackson’s Food Stores No. 35 at 522 West Cherry Lane: Approve Item L. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Jackson’s Food Stores No. 24 at 625 North Eagle Road: Approve Item M. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Jackson’s Food Stores No. 11 at 1585 South Meridian Road: Approve Item N. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Epi’s – A Basque Restaurant at 1115 South 1st Street: Approve Item O. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Bill-N-Lynn’s Place at 229 W. Franklin Road: Approve Item P. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Albertson’s No. 164 at 20 East Fairview: Approve Item Q. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Albertson’s No. 180 at 3301 West Cherry Lane: Approve Item S. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: Applebee’s at 1460 North Eagle Road: Approve Item T. Beer and Wine 2001 Renewal: El Tenampa at 729 East 1st Street: Approve Item V. Beer and Liquor 2001 Renewal: Fiesta Guadalajara at 704 East Fairview Avenue: Approve Bird: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Bird. Bird: Everything on the beer and wine looked okay to me on all the applications. Captain Musser is leaving us. De Weerd: He leaves when it comes to his part. Musser: One of my officers is waving at me, so I apologize. The Chief did not indicate that he had any problems with any of the listed renewals at the time, so I do not have any information to pass on to the Council. DeWeerd: Thank you. Item R. Agreement for hookup to City Sewer by Warren and Jeanie Pemberton at 940 South Mustang Drive: Corrie: Gary, the agreement on the hook-up is fine. Smith: Yes, I believe it has been mailed to Pembertons or will be upon approval of the Council. Item 4. Steiner Development and the City of Meridian Land Swap at The Lakes at Cherry Lane No. 8 and Cherry Lane Golf Course: Bird: Mr. Mayor. Corrie: Mr. Bird. Bird: On the regular agenda, we had at the planning session Gary had brought forward a deal regarding that agreement on the City of Meridian land swap with the Lakes of Cherry Lane regarding the length of the tiling of the ditch. Is there anything we can do, Mr. Nichols? Nichols: Councilman Bird, Mayor, members of the Council, since it is on the agendas and ordinance and I advice Steve Bradberry that this issue came up, although not in great detail did I, but I think that it is appropriate to go ahead and talk about it. The actual agreement itself has not yet been signed by the City. I think that they may be here later and may be prepared to address the issue with the Council in terms of value per value issues, or I also understand that Mr. Campbell on behalf of Steiner Development may have made a subsequent commitment with regard to additional tiling of the ditch, which if that is the case I do not know if there is an issue there or not. I think you just take up the ordinance and you just talk about the ordinance does not necessarily mean that you have to immediately launch into the first reading, you can still talk about it. The thing is that the public hearing has been closed, but I do not know that necessarily means that you cannot take additional information from the staff, and / or the other party. It is not like a Planning and Zoning applications to where you have to close the public hearing in order to have a record upon which you act. I guess what I am telling you is I think there is some flexibility there to be able to discuss the issue and take it up at the time, and as long as Steiner and / or their representative is here to be able to do that you should be okay. Item 3. Sign Ordinance: Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Members of the Council, also, I do not think the sign ordinance is ready because we are waiting on some graphics to be able to plug into that. So that is not ready to go, that should be tabled until the 19th; I think it will be ready by then. I think that some outsourced work that we are waiting on for the graphics. Item 8. FP 00-020 Final Plat approval of 47 building lots and 3 other lots on 14.93 acres in an R-4 zone for Autumn Faire Subdivision No. 1 by Gem Star Properties, LLC – south of Ustick Road and west of Black Cat Road: Nichols: Also, on Item 8 which is the Autumn Faire Subdivision Final Plat, the property is not, I do not think it has been annexed yet, and there are a couple of issues on the Development Agreement side that we may need to talk to the Council about. There is one issue I need to talk to Shari about, but the other issues are relatively straightforward I think. This one is not ready to go. We have not even annexed the property yet. Bird: Do we need to table that? Nicholson: I would say it should be tabled and I think Shari would have may issues with regard to the completeness of the final plat application. I guess I would ask Shari to comment on that one. Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, we did request in our comments regarding the final plat that they make some changes as they do not comply with the conditions of approval of the preliminary plat. I would like to see those presented to the Council prior to your taking action on it. As far as their comments, I can address that, I believe the applicants representative will be here tonight. Item 10. Final Plat Time Extension: Request by Glenn Johnson Homes for a time extension for the signing and recording of final plat for Hartford Subdivision – northeast corner of East Ustick Road and North Ten Mile Road: Stiles: I also had an additional note on Item 10, the final plat time extension on Hartford subdivision should have been noticed as a public hearing for a variance, and it was not. So, we will need to notice that and get it on the agenda for January 2. Bird: So we need to table this until January 2? Stiles: Yes, well I guess take no action because it really is not a valid item at this point. Item 8. FP 00-020 Final Plat approval of 47 building lots and 3 other lots on 14.93 acres in an R-4 zone for Autumn Faire Subdivision No. 1 by Gem Star Properties, LLC – south of Ustick Road and west of Black Cat Road: Bird: Mr. Mayor, Shari, on Item 8, you are saying when do we need to table that to? Till the 19th or do we need to take it to January 2nd? Stiles: I believe we will get revised plats in this week so they should be able to go by the 19th if they get their Development Agreement signed. De Weerd: Mr. Mayor, is that an issue the Development Agreement, as far as signing It? Is it reasonable to assume that they will have it done in two weeks? Stiles: I do not know really what is remaining on it. Nichols: Councilwoman DeWeerd, Mayor, Members of the Council, there are a couple of issues on there with regard to the annexation of the outparcels that were identified which were actually not owned by Langley Farms but owned by the principals of Langley Farms. That is one issue. There is another issue about, and this is what I have to talk to Shari about, the phase at which the park site is supposed to be donated to the City. I think in the findings of fact that it indications Phase IV, and I think they may have been thinking Phase I of Autumn Fair No. 2, I will have to look at Susan Wildwood’s letter again and I want to show that to you. Most of the things that they have asked for are not very critical with regard to the deal. We do have this annexation issue on this out parcels, and there are just a couple of issues there. One is there is a requested that they not have to hook up to City water and sewer until the use of the property changes and I know that that was an issue that was discussed at the Planning and Zoning Commission level. Gary, Shari and I talked a little about that a bit this afternoon because the owner of the property that was subject to this development application is different than the owners of the out parcels. Corrie: So are we going to have time to do that, Bill, on the 19th? Nichols: I think so. Corrie: Good. Thank you Shari. Janice. Item 12. Department Reports: A. City Treasurer – Janice Smith: Treasurer’s Report: Smith: Thank you Mayor and Council. For the Treasurers report this month we are starting our new – It will be October on your expenditure report you received, and your investment summary is also for the month of October. I will make this brief because I know we have a lot here on the agenda. Just a quick overview of the revenue for the General Fund: We took in $169,000, and we are spending $787,00. We will be receiving proper tax money the first of the year, so right now we are operating on our fund balance. Also, you’ll make note that this report does not show any correcting it or adjusting entries. We are right in the middle of an audit; two days in. You will receive ending audit report in December for October. At that time after the audit is complete, the carry-forwards on the capital projects which we had the parks and the water and sewer will show up on that, hopefully December report. If it is delayed I will let you know. When you go into the second fund that we have is our Enterprise Fund. It looks a little better. The Enterprise consist of the water and sewer brought in $794,000, and at this point they are spending $372,000. They do have some big projects going in, a big bulk of the money will be going out in June. Since we knew they were not going to be spending a lot of money, the Investment Committee go together and took $3,000,000 out of the checking account because -- $3,300,000 out of the checking account because we knew we were not going to be using that money until June. We gave that money to our Investment Committee -- our investment brokers, and they invested it into some new CDs. They have gotten two new banks, Idaho Banking Company from Eagle and Syringa Bank were fighting over the money. So, our investment brokers put $2,570,000 into Idaho Banking and interest to 7.25 percent and that is great for Enterprise. We are going to need that in June. We also went with Syringa Bank and also Farmers Merchant Bank over six-month and twelve-month maturities. They would only go up to 6.85 percent. That is why the majority went the Idaho Banking. Overall, the investment brokers put in 5.25, we had some CD’s come due, so they did some good investing this last month. You will not see that probably until December report on investment cash summary because we just did it today. Other than that I did give you the wage report just tonight, and then we are working on our procedures on our purchase order and we will keep you updated on how that is going. So if you have any other questions? Thank you. C. City Clerk – Will Berg: 1. Request by Jeff Manship to discuss Tremont Place Subdivision Development Agreement: Corrie: On your request with Jeff Manship, are they here? They’re not? Anything else from the Council at this point. Okay, when we open, we will have the consent agenda done, and on the regular agenda we will have the Police Department swearing-in ceremony right at the beginning of the regular agenda. It looks good to see all that bodyguards out there. Okay, if I hear nothing further, I move that we close the agenda items here at Pre-Council Meeting, and we will come back into session at 7:30 p.m. Bird: So moved. Anderson: Second. Corrie: Okay. Motion made and seconded to go out of Pre-Council Meeting and to come back at 7:30 p.m. in Regular Meeting. All those in favor say, aye. MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 7:23 P.M. (TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS) APPROVED: ROBERT D. CORRIE, MAYOR WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., CITY CLERK