HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000 08-15 PreMeridian City Pre-Council Meeting August 15, 2000
The Special City Pre-Council meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order by Mayor Robert D. Corrie at 6:35 p.m. on Tuesday, August 15, 2000.
Members present: Robert D. Corrie, Tammy deWeerd, Cherie McCandless, Keith Bird.
Others present: Shari Stiles, Gary Smith, Bill Gordon, Sam McEvoy, Bill Nichols, Tom Kuntz, Will Berg.
Corrie: We will have the reports and go over the Pre-Council Agenda. Council do you have any questions or whatever you need to go over, let's do that now.
Bird: Can the Clerk, Shari and Gary tell us if on the Consent Agenda if everything's here, all the development agreements, everything that we need. If not, then which ones we should
pull or do they not agree with.
Corrie: Staff, any questions.
Stiles: I have some comments on the findings. Starting with Opal Farrington, Item D.
Berg: How many of these are you going to make comments on so I can refer to those?
Item D. Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: AZ 00-012 Request for annexation and zoning by Opal Farrington of 4.70 acres from R-1 to R-4 for proposed addition of a home – northwest
corner of East Pine Avenue and Adkins Way:
Item E. Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: AZ 00-010 Request for annexation and zoning of 40.33 acres from RT to R-4 for proposed Timber View Subdivision by Victory 41, LLC
– north of Victory Road and east of Meridian Road:
Item F. Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law: PP 00-010 Request for Preliminary Plat approval of 91 building lots and 10 other lots on 40.33 acres for proposed Timber View Subdivision
by Victory 41, LLC, currently in an RT zone and proposed R-4 zone – north of Victory Road and east of Meridian Road:
Stiles: I've got comments on D, E, and F. That's as far as I've got. On page 6, Item 18, I'm not sure if this language is dealing with the Conditional Use Permit or what it is. It's
probably still okay on the second to the last line on Item 18. Should just put a period after "neighboring uses" and delete the rest of the sentence. It's talking about potential to
produce excessive traffic noise, smoke, fume, glare, and odors. I don't know where that came from. On page 12, Paragraph 6, that should be deleted. It's talking about a Conditional
Use Permit is required to construct and develop a planned commercial
development. Page 14, Item 1.7, it is a recommendation of the Planning & Zoning Commission. I think that we can strike 1.7 because 1.9 takes care of that. That's all I had on that
one. On Item E, page 5, Item 16.3, the last line, the 20-foot landscape buffer must be installed as a condition of final plat approval, not must be installed prior to final plat approval.
Take out prior to and put as a condition of. Page 6, Item 19, second to the last line, subject property as single family residential development instead of mixed plan use development.
Page 11, Paragraph 6, should strike that. It's saying that a Conditional Use Permit is required. Page 13, Item 1.3, it's the same as previous, take out prior to on the last line and
put as a condition of. Item F, preliminary plat, Page 7, Paragraph 2.16, delete the last line of the first paragraph. It's covered in the next paragraph. Page 8, Paragraph 2.20, this
was from a previous, our initial comments on the project that we recommended that those three lots that were south of the Kennedy Lateral be incorporated into the park and I don't believe
that's required. I guess that should be deleted, the entire thing. Page 9, Paragraph 2.29, should be deleted as they are not providing any access to that property. That's as far as
I got. Did we get any request for tabling any of these, continuing of them of the public hearings? I had had someone from the Hollows request that, but I wasn't sure if they had submitted
anything. I don't have any other comments on the Consent Agenda.
Berg: Everything should be in order from what we received from the attorneys on the Consent Agenda.
Corrie: No other changes? Okay.
Item 11. Public Hearing: VAR 00-015 Request for a variance allowing applicant to lower the finish floor elevation below the Flood Plain because of the size of the site by Rod or Sheri
Eisele / Eagle Concrete Pumping in an I-L zone - Baltic Place in the Meridian Business Park:
Stiles: On Item 11, on the regular agenda, do we have findings on the P & Z Recommendation on that one? Did everyone else get one and I misplace mine?
deWeerd: Variances don't go to P & Z.
Stiles: Do we have recommendations?
deWeerd: They should be covered in Steve Siddoway's comments on the Conditional Use Permit. I thought that he had covered that.
Stiles: I just didn't have anything with it. The application said that it went to Planning & Zoning. I would like to see staff comments on that for the CUP thing.
deWeerd: Is the CUP up tonight?
Stiles: No, you said his staff comments for the CUP would have covered that. But I don't have a staff comment for that.
deWeerd: I'm not sure when the CUP is coming through on that. I thought they would be on the same agenda.
Stiles: Should this variance be continued until then?
deWeerd: I guess it's not going to hurt anything because you will still have to have findings on the Conditional Use Permit anyway. Might as well consider them both at the same time
if you want to continue it.
Stiles: When do you think that will be up before us?
Berg: It probably will be the next meeting.
Bird: September 5th.
Berg: It was before the P & Z last week. We usually don't try to push to get the findings done within those three days. Since it doesn't require another public hearing, I think it's
just at the P & Z level.
Stiles: So it wouldn't hurt it to continue this until the CUP is here?
deWeerd: September 5th it looks like it's going to be.
Stiles: That's all I have.
Corrie: Did you have something on the regular agenda?
Kuntz: It's a public hearing.
Bird: We can't hear it.
Corrie: Sorry about that. Anything else? Gary, on the department reports, do you want to do Western Electronics sites waterline easement?
Smith: That is easement for a water line that will connect to the water line in Overland Road and extend around the building that DBSI is constructing. It will be a City waterline
because it's fire protection with fire hydrants attached to it. We will maintain ownership and that's the reason for the easement request.
D. Parks and Recreation Department – Tom Kuntz:
1. Generations Plaza II:
Corrie: Tom, the Fire Department will be back with their boots. Tom, you have Generations Plaza II?
deWeerd: Do we need to fill their boots while they're here?
Corrie: Yes. Hopefully it's not a long one.
Kuntz: What you have in front of you is the final proposal for Generations Plaza II. In addition, a timeline for reviewing the plans and bidding the process and construction. The
Parks & Recreation Commission will see this for the final time this coming Monday. What I need from the Council is their comments by next Tuesday, the 22nd. So on Wednesday I can call
the Land Group and we can make revisions and then move ahead with the bidding process.
deWeerd: My only concern first look is that this dotted line doesn't extend over to the middle that. I know they are going to be developing that part of it, but I would hate, because
of this drawing, it looks almost like that property is there's.
Kuntz: If you look at the page in your deal, what we did was we highlighted, there is an area one which is highlighted in green and an area two highlighted in pink. If you recall,
at one of our first budget meetings, Councilman Bird suggested that we pursue getting our construction under way with building the core area. So what we are planning to do, is bid the
whole thing as one project, but area one will be constructed first and we will leave area two open so they can work on demolishing and constructing their building and the same with the
alley. The heavy dash line really just intended to show that we will construct up to that dash line with area one, leaving the alley open, 1) for Gary to put the new sewer in and 2)
then it would be construction area for the old lawnmower building.
Bird: We are bidding Phase 1 and 2.
Kuntz: Correct. It's all one project.
Bird: The schedule, is that showing both phases too?
Kuntz: Yes, sir.
Bird: You are 100 percent right, I wanted to get it going as soon as we could.
deWeerd: We have that half of the alleyway clear up to this piece, right?
Kuntz: Yes.
deWeerd: Just if that can be noted and maybe footnoted that, that is our property. They may be responsible for the costs, but it's still our property.
Bird: It's just not included in the first phase of the bid.
deWeerd: Right.
Kuntz: I would like to go hand these memos out, it's on the public hearing. I at least want to give them to you because it's relevant to what Council member deWeerd is asking. It's
a little confusing but I just want to get those to now because we will bring up the issues when staff has a chance on Item 7 on the alleyway. The last item I have is in regards to the
Five Mile Creek pathway. We had our review of the Five Mile Creek pathway with the Idaho Transportation Department last Thursday. What came from that meeting was a list of things we
still need to complete to be able to go get the funds obligated from the federal government for the project. One of the biggest things was a license agreement with Nampa-Meridian Irrigation
District. What you have in your packet that I just handed out, one, is a letter from the Bureau of Reclamation to Darren Coon of Nampa-Meridian Irrigation District, basically saying
that they support the pathway but there needs to be a license agreement in place with Nampa-Meridian. The largest part of this document is a license agreement that was drafted and has
passed the Nampa-Meridian's board and they have given the staff, Darren Coon, authorization to sign this agreement once the City Council approves it. Our attorney, Bill Nichols, has
had a chance to look at it. There are a couple of minor changes that we are working on rewording. I hate to spring this on you at the last minute, but in order for us to meet that
August 30th deadline, we need to have this approved in a timely fashion.
Bird: Could we have a response from Mr. Nichols?
Nichols: I have reviewed the proposed license agreement. For background, this came with a proposed master pathway agreement and a proposed memorandum of understanding on the title
transfer. We communicated to Nampa-Meridian that title transfer was a separate issue, master pathway was a separate issue, and wanted to take care of this one. There were a couple
of concerns that I had, one of them in talking with the district's attorney, I resolved my concerns over that. The other one has to do on Page 4, Subparagraph E with regard to what
is commonly referred to as spoil, where they dredge out a drain and pull the weeds and dirt out of the drain. That's what I have heard it called before. We didn't want that just dumped
on the pathway. I believe they are willing either remove the spoil in such as to not put it on the pathway or if they have no place to put it, I believe they'll agree to notify us in
advance and try to coordinate removal of that spoil into trucks so that it's not on the pathway itself. That was one of my concerns. Dan Stinks, and the attorney for the district thought
that that was probably a reasonable approach and didn't see a problem with it. You could approve this agreement subject to rewording that subparagraph (e) to resolve the issues of how
that spoil would be disposed of.
Corrie: With all the other changes, like on page 6, Exhibit C is actually D, those would change.
Kuntz: I guess I would like to call your attention to Exhibit D which we just got faxed to us this afternoon. This is an example of the sign that they would want posted at both
entrances to the park, pathway. It just seems to me a little, I'm not sure what the word is, but…
deWeerd: Dictorial (sic).
Kuntz: But if that's what they require, it's just, well --
Nichols: The license agreement requires that the City enforce these particular rules with regard to waiting or that sort of thing. You could do that with bicycle patrol. I mean you
don't have to go out of your way to find people who are violating it, but if you saw someone doing something, they should be told to get out. I don't see that as a major enforcement
problem although, perhaps that could be.
Corrie: Any other questions?
deWeerd: I would like to remind Council that the Mayor and I have a meeting on Monday. I can't compass that it will address the master pathway agreement and that if you have any comments
on that, Tom and Mr. Nichols, any of the Council members, to please either get it to the Mayor or myself so that we can pass any comments from community on that level. If we could have
those by Friday, it would be appreciated.
Corrie: Sam, you're on stage.
McEvoy: Mr. Mayor and City Council, we would like to come before you tonight and present you with T-shirts and make you honorary firemen. We have "Fill-the-Boot" coming up. The International
Firefighters have put this on for Jerry's Kids for many years and supported them with the millions of dollars. Also, our volunteers have helped us throughout the past and throughout
the nation they also helped. On the 26th you will also get a new T-shirt for this year by coming down and helping us fill the boot. We will be at East 1st and Franklin, and our goal
is to hopefully get $10,000. Most of the money goes strictly to help the kids and adults here in Southern Idaho with wheelchairs; if they need crutches or whatever they need. It helps
us support them. I will give you each one of these.
deWeerd: The 26th? What time?
Kiesig: It will start at 8:00 a.m. and will go to 5:00 p.m. The Muscular Dystrophy Association deals with over 42 neuromuscular disorders which affect mostly children. As Sam said,
most of this money we do raise does stay right here. Firefighters across the nation during the month of August will be out in force in the streets, raising money for Muscular Dystrophy.
Last year we presented Jerry Lewis with over $11 million to help these kids. A great deal at the national level goes to research. Most of ours will go ahead and stay here. These
kids require care 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Part of the money we raise, goes to send these kids to camp. This year, 75 children from the Southern Idaho were able to attend camp.
During camp, they are there for a week, firefighters around the state, volunteer their time. We help each other out, we cover
each other on shift: we take vacation time; we do what we can to go up and be with these kids for a week. The kids have a blast, they really have a good time. It gives mom and dad
and the rest of the family a chance to take a vacation and take a break. On Saturday the 26th, Fox 12 is covering MDA for us this year and they will be out here. We would like to invite
you there, we would like to have you there for when they're there. I will get you the times and we could go ahead and do that, but we would certainly like to have you participate and
be on our fire line.
deWeerd: You will lend us a boot?
Kiesig: Absolutely. We all ask if it would be possible, to display this someplace in City Hall. We also have some canisters and different literature that we will be distributing out
in the Valley to various businesses to see if they will help us.
Bird: Get some of those here so we can take them into our businesses.
deWeerd: So what is your goal this year?
McEvoy: $10,000.
deWeerd: Last year you raised $5,300.
McEvoy: That was between us and North Ada County. This year we want to get out of Meridian alone about $10,000 and we are going to go down and see if we can sneak in on the fair.
We would like to beat Boise and Northern Idaho.
Bird: Leave some of those extra signs and cans.
deWeerd: Those canisters could be put one in the City Clerk's Office and one right here.
McEvoy: Next year we are going to approach the Chamber of Commerce and have a week deal for the MDA.
Bird: In the park on Saturday.
McEvoy: We will be working out on that intersection. We might see if one of the stores would let the wives work there. Kuna also asked to help us.
Corrie: Is there any other staff? Any other comments? Council? We will be back here at 7:25 p.m. I might tell you, I'd love to see your company here, but we have one Council member
that is absent tonight and in all fairness to him, the public, and Valeri Heights developer, we are going to open the public hearing on Valeri Heights. However, where the testimony
is going to be on the 22nd of this month. We have moved it so all four Council members can be here that night and here just Valeri Heights that night. If anybody can not make that
the 22nd and are here tonight, we will open the
public hearing and take your testimony if you can't be here the 22nd. That's just kind of what I'm going to tell you again at 7:30 p.m. So you can kind of see if you are going to be
here or not, but one of the Council members is gone. This will be discussed at the beginning of the meeting. I will take a break and be back at 7:25 p.m.
Bird: I move that we close the Pre-Council meeting.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the Pre-Council meeting until the other 7:30 p.m. meeting. All those in favor say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES
Corrie: Adjourned
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVE:
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ROBERT D. CORRIE, MAYOR
ATTEST:
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WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., CITY CLERK