HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000 04-18Meridian City Council Meeting April 18, 2000
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Robert D. Corrie.
Members present: Robert Corrie, Keith Bird, Tammy deWeerd, Cherie McCandless.
Members absent: Ron Anderson
Others present: Bill Nichols, Bill Gordon, Gary Smith, Shari Stiles, Ken Bowers, Will Berg.
Corrie: Okay. I’ll open the Council meeting for the City of Meridian, Tuesday, April 18, 2000, and we’ll start with roll-call, please.
Item A. Approve minutes of April 4, 2000, Special City Pre-Council meeting:
Item B. Approve minutes of April 4, 2000, City Council meeting:
Item C. Tabled from April 4, 2000: Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-023 Request for annexation and zoning of 8.25 acres to R-8 for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision
by Dan Wood / D.W., Inc. – west of Eagle Road between Overland and East Victory:
Item D. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: VAR 00-004 Variance in requirements of hook-up to City services by Sarah and Michael Bledsoe:
Item E. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-021 Request for annexation and zoning of 157.88 acres to L-O for a continuing care retirement community, single- and multi-tenant
residential, office and retail use by Touchmark Living Centers – Joseph A. Billig – east of St. Luke’s between Franklin Road and Interstate 84:
Item F. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: CUP 99-039 Request for Conditional Use Permit for planned unit development including continuing care retirement community, single-
and multi-family residential and office and retail use by Touchmark Living Centers - Joseph A. Billig – east of St. Luke’s between Franklin Road and Interstate 84:
Item G. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: AZ 99-010 Request for annexation and zoning of 150.79 acres to R-4 by Bear Creek, LLC – east of Stoddard Road and south of Overland
:
Item H. Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law: PP 99-010 Request for preliminary plat for proposed Bear Creek Subdivision – 326 single-family lots on 150.79 acres by Bear Creek,
LLC – east of Stoddard Road and south of Overland:
Item I. Order granting appeal: AP 00-001 Request for appeal of Planning and Zoning Administrator’s decision of denial of a sign application by Meridian High School to replace existing
display with a new display cabinet with a message center – 1900 West Pine Avenue:
Item J. Development Agreement: AZ 00-002 Request for annexation and zoning of 5.029 acres to L-O and R-8 by Centers Construction, Inc. – west side of Locust Grove ¼ mile north of Fairview
Avenue:
Item K. Beer and Wine License: Chinatown Qwik-Wok by Alberto Wong – 3055 East Fairview Avenue, Suite 200, Meridian:
Item L. Beer and Wine License: El Tenampa by Rocio Maria Pedraza – 729 East 1st Street:
Corrie: Thank you. On the Consent Agenda, I think, Council, we need to pull
Item A. We don’t have the minutes of that meeting. Were there any other items
that the Council wishes to look at?
Bird: Mr. Mayor, Item F, we need to table that to May 2nd until we get the agreement, and also Item H, we need to table that to May 2nd.
Corrie: Okay. Any other additions on the Consent Agenda?
Bird: I have none. With that, Mayor, I move that we approve the Consent Agenda as stated with the Items A, F, and H being pulled or tabled.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to approve the Consent Agenda except for Item A and F and H. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, please, Mr. Berg.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: Now I’ll entertain a motion to have Item F and Item H tabled until the May 2nd.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, do you want it individually or together?
Corrie: You can do it together.
Bird: I move that we table the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for the CUP 99-039 for Touchmark Living Centers and also the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law PP 99-010
for Bear Creek, the preliminary plat for Bear Creek Subdivision to May 2, 2000.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to table Items F and H on the Consent Agenda of the April 18th meeting to be placed on the agenda on May 2, 2000. Any further discussion? Hearing
none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 1. Ordinance No. 871: Adult entertainment ordinance relating to zoning schedule:
Corrie: I want to welcome everybody here this evening. Thank you for being here. Now we’ll have the regular agenda. Item No. 1 will be the Ordinance for the Adult Entertainment Ordinance
relating to zoning scheduling. So with that, Mr. Clerk, what number would that be?
Berg: 871.
Corrie: So if the clerk would read Ordinance No. 871 by title only at this point, please.
Berg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Ordinance No. 871: An Ordinance relating to adult entertainment amending Section 1 of Chapter 10 of Title 3 Municipal Code of the City of Meridian, Idaho,
by the addition thereof of a new definition in Section 1, Definitions, Adult Entertainment; and by the addition thereof of a new Section 1A and 1B providing for Findings and the statement
of purpose; and providing for location restrictions; and amending Section 7 of Chapter 10 of Title 3 by the deletion therein of the reference to the City Attorney; and providing an effective
date.
Corrie: All right. You’ve heard the reading of Ordinance 871 read by title only. Is there anyone from the audience that would like Ordinance No. 871 read in its entirety? Okay.
Hearing none, Council, I’ll entertain a motion on Ordinance No. 871.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve Ordinance No. 871 and have the City Attorney prepare the Decision of Order for the Adult Entertainment Ordinance with suspension of rules.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to approve Ordinance No. 871 with suspension of rules. Is there any other discussion?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Hearing none, Mr. Clerk, will you give roll-call vote, please.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 2. Ordinance No. 872: AZ 00-002 Request for annexation and zoning of 5.029 acres to L-O and R-8 by Centers Construction, Inc. – west side of Locust Grove ¼ mile north of Fairview
Avenue:
Corrie: Item No. 2 on the agenda is Ordinance No. 872; AZ 00-002, request for annexation and zoning of 5.029 acres to L-O and R-8 by Centers Construction Company, west side of Locust
Grove ¼ mile north of Fairview Avenue. At this time, I would like to have the City Clerk read Ordinance No. 872 by title only.
Berg: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Ordinance No. 872: An Ordinance finding that certain land lies contiguous or adjacent to the City limits of the City of Meridian, County of Ada, State
of Idaho; and finding that the owner has made a request for annexation in writing to the Council; and that said land be annexed to the City of Meridian, zoning designated medium-density
residential district (R-8) and limited office district (L-O); and declaring that said land by proper legal description as described below be a part of the City of Meridian, County of
Ada, State of Idaho; repealing all Ordinances, Resolutions, Orders or parts thereof in conflict herewith; and directing the City Engineer to add said property to the official maps of
the City of Meridian, Idaho; and directing the Clerk of the City of Meridian to file a certified copy of the Ordinance and map of the areas to be annexed with the Ada County Recorder,
Auditor, Treasurer and Assessor and the State Tax Commission of the State of Idaho pursuant to Idaho Code Section 50-223 and Section 63-2215.
Corrie: You’ve heard the Ordinance No. 872 read by title only. Is there anyone from the audience that would like to have the Ordinance 872 read in its entirety? Hearing none, I’ll
hear motion from the Council on Ordinance 872.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve Ordinance No. 872 and instruct the City Attorney to draw up the Decision of Order with suspension of rules.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to approve Ordinance No. 872 with suspension of rules. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Clerk
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: At this point, I would take a little executive privilege here. First thank Council President Bird for conducting the meeting on April 4th. I was out of town, so I understand
you did a pretty good job. Thank you.
Item 3. Tabled from April 4, 2000: PP 00-016 Request for preliminary plat for 45 building lots on 8.25 acres for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood / D.W., Inc. – west of
Eagle Road between Overland and East Victory:
Corrie: Item No. 3 is tabled from April 4th. This is a request for a preliminary plat for 45 building lots on 8.25 acres for proposed Woodhaven Subdivision by Dan Wood / D.W., Inc.,
west of Eagle Road between Overland Road and East Victory. Does staff have any questions or comments on this request for preliminary plat?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I would like some clarification from the applicant or his representative. They have proposed this new plat. I wasn’t in on the discussions for this
on-going project. It appears that the frontages do not meet the R-8 requirements for the minimum of 65 feet, and then the plats would need to be a 30-foot minimum. Other cul-de-sac
lots would need to have a 40-foot cord. I’d like to ask legal counsel since we haven’t actually received a Development Agreement or annexed the property, does this need to be tabled
again?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, and Director Stiles, this thing’s been in front of us so many times, I don’t know which end is up with it. Since this appeared on the agenda
as only preliminary plat approval, and the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law in the annexation and zoning did not appear on this agenda, I assumed that was one of the things that
was already taken care of. We were held up, I believe, perhaps because of the Ada County Highway District street standards. I can recall that was an issue because it – if I recall
correctly, that was the one issue that the street standards that had been incorporated into the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law on the annexation issue were the
wrong ones. Was I incorrect on that, Council members, do you recall? Mr. Smith?
Stiles: We’ve approved on the Consent Agenda the Findings on the annexation and zoning, but we don’t actually have the Development Agreement.
Nichols: That’s correct.
Stiles: Or an Ordinance.
Nichols: That’s correct.
Stiles: Does that make it – you’ve been preparing Findings of Fact on the plats themselves? That’s the only comment I would have in reviewing this is that the R-8 requirements aren’t
met in regard to frontages on some of the lots.
Corrie: Gary.
Lee: I’m Gary Lee with J-U-B Engineers, 250 South Beechwood. In reviewing that latest submittal on the plat, there is adequate room to adjust those lot lines to meet standard for lot
area and frontage. This thing was put together fairly rapidly, and it’s preliminary in form. There won’t be any mathematical surveying problems to meet the standard. We can still
keep the same lot count. The attorney is correct. In the last meeting when it was tabled for ACHD’s comment on this new layout when it was in the Findings of Fact was that the original
Findings from the 45-unit preliminary plat, when they were looking at the townhouse concept. So the new one you have now is based on this design.
Bird: Is that the current one you have now, Gary? That’s the one we got here marked April 3rd?
Lee: Yes. Speaking for the developer, I don’t’ think he’d have a problem if you were to approve the preliminary plat conditioned upon meeting R-8 standards on lot dimensions.
Corrie: Gary, do you have any problem with that?
Smith: No, I don’t Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: I know we’ve been back and forth on this one. We want to make sure we’ve got the same one; everybody’s on the same page here. Okay.
Bird: Have we got a response from ACHD?
Corrie: Did we get a response from ACHD?
Bird: Do we have it? That’s all we asked for in the (inaudible) in the last meeting.
Corrie: Any questions on the preliminary plat?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: I’ll entertain a motion then, on the request for preliminary plat on Item No. 3, PP 00-016.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the request for preliminary plat for Woodhaven Subdivision to include the recommendations from the Planning and Zoning Commission with the
following additions: the fencing be similar to the Thousand Springs Subdivision at the height of the lateral; that irrigation access is guaranteed with piping of the McDonald Lateral;
that the Right to Farm Act be included on the plat; and that the property line be staked; and to instruct the City Attorney to draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law.
Bird: I’ll second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to approve the preliminary plat with the conditions of recommendations of Planning and Zoning and with the four stipulations that Mrs. deWeerd
gave as, one, fencing; two, irrigation; three, Right to Farm Act; and, four, property line staked. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 4. Continued Public Hearing from April 4, 2000: CUP 00-006 Request for a Conditional Use Permit for existing car dealership (2 buildings) on front four acres and proposed 72,000
s.f. Fairview Mini-Storage on the back four acres – 1005 East Fairview Avenue:
Corrie: Item No. 4, continued public hearing from April 4, 2000. I believe we got a request from the Fairview Mini Storage to table that.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I move that we continue the public hearing for the Fairview Mini Storage to May 16th.
Bird: Second.
Corrie: motion has been made and seconded to continue the public hearing from tonight on the CUP request from Fairview Mini Storage to be continued to May 16th of 2000. Any further
discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 5. Public Hearing: CUP 00-010 Request for Conditional Use Permit for an 1800 s.f. home/office to be used as office space/relocation in a C-N zone by C.W. Construction, Inc. –
West Barrett Drive south of Franklin Road:
Corrie: Item No. 5 is a public hearing, request for Conditional Use Permit for 1800 s.f. home/office to be used as an office space / relocation in a C-N zone by C.W. Construction, Inc.,
West Barrett Drive south of Franklin Road. At this time I will open the public hearing and have staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for basically a remnant parcel that was created when Ada County Highway District acquired this piece for their drainage pond. So it’s essentially
split the property. It doesn’t make much sense to go through the subdivision process because, basically, the lots are there. This is the entrance into Crestwood Estates. There are
residential uses surrounding the property. This is the storage area for the subdivision that has a fence around it, and you can view it from Franklin Road. This is the remainder that’s
left as undeveloped. The applicant has purchased an existing building that was located on State Street in Boise. The pictures didn’t come out very well. Here’s the site plan. They’re
showing landscaping along the entrance road there, and then also the 20-foot required planting strip on the other road. They will be using it as an office. You can’t see – these are
really rough. The pictures were so dark it was hard to fix them. It was from an existing structure. We had asked that paint – more, I guess – it’s kind of a bright blue right now,
and they had agreed that they would paint that to be more compatible with the surrounding area. Staff is recommending approval with the Conditions stated in our comments. That’s all
I had.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, Shari, have the – when ACHD split, was that legally done or is that an illegal parcel?
Stiles: It was basically their one-time split, but it really made three lots because of the way it was split.
deWeerd: So I guess my question still stands. Is it legal? Has the paperwork been done properly and that sort of thing?
Stiles: Yes, it was. It was just an awkward situation just because of the way they left – they basically created a separate lot when they did it.
deWeerd: But your concerns are satisfied as far as the descriptions and that sort of thing?
Stiles: Yes.
deWeerd: I just had one additional question. I know that there were some concerns about trees and the landscaping. Have those been worked out with the applicant?
Stiles: I’m sorry. I’m not –
deWeerd: As far as the number and the size and –
Stiles: They had met the minimum number whether they had asked – I don’t know if anybody from the surrounding neighborhood had asked for additional trees.
deWeerd: It’s in the staff recommendations.
Stiles: Oh. Okay. I’m sorry.
(inaudible discussion amongst Council members)
Stiles: Interestingly enough, this property is zoned that – would permit a convenience store, but a professional office building required a Conditional Use Permit.
deWeerd: My question was regarding 1.13 and 1.14 in the recommendation from Planning and Zoning. I can ask the applicant.
Stiles: They could meet those conditions, and we could require that during the Certificate of Zoning Compliance if they don’t have any problems with that.
deWeerd: Thank you, Shari.
Corrie: Any other questions of Shari? Okay. This is a public hearing. I’d invite the applicant to step forward and make any comments at this point. Don’t have any? Okay. Anyone
else from the public like to issue testimony in this public hearing of the CUP. Okay. Council, before I close it, do you have any questions you’d like to ask the applicant or Shari?
Okay. All right. Hearing no other testimony, I’ll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we close the public hearing on the CUP for C.W. Construction, Inc.
McCandless: Motion made and seconded that we close the public hearing on Item NO. 5, CUP 00-010. Any other discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: Comments and discussion from Council?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: I’ll entertain a motion on the request for Conditional Use Permit on Item No. 5.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the request for Conditional Use Permit for 1800 s.f. home/office to be used as office space/relocation in a C-N zone by C.W. Construction, Inc.,
and for the attorney to draw up Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law, Decision of Order, and to incorporate the comments from Planning and Zoning.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded to approve the request for Conditional Use Permit, and to incorporate the comments of the Planning and Zoning Commission and have the attorney
draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 6. Public Hearing: VAR 00-005 Request for variance from conditions of platting and City Ordinance 12-5-2.N regarding pressure irrigation in the Scottsdale Subdivision by Wolfe
Commercial Enterprises, LLC – south of Franklin Road between Meridian and Linder Roads:
Corrie: Item No. 6 is a public hearing. This is a request for a variance from conditions of platting and City Ordinance 12-5-2.N regarding pressure irrigation in the Scottsdale Subdivision
by Wolfe Commercial Enterprises, LLC, south of Franklin Road between Meridian and Linder Roads. At this time, I’ll open the public hearing on Item No. 6 and have staff comments first.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for property that was fairly recently rezoned from an R-15 to an L-O. The Dreamland Daycare Center is here. In their explanation, they have
noted that they cannot meet Nampa Meridian Irrigation District’s requirements for drainage for the overflow or wastewater, and
so they won’t approve a pressurized irrigation system. We did ask that the condition remained on the plat that the planting strip adjacent to the residential property be installed prior
to applying for building permits, and the applicant has indicated that that’s acceptable. Gary has also asked that the well development be of $672 per lot should be required if the
variance is granted.
Corrie: Gary, I think you have a comment that came from Bruce Freckleton that stated that you support this request; is that correct?
Smith: Yes, Mr. Mayor.
Corrie; Thank you. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone from the public that would like to issue testimony first? Oh. Is the applicant here tonight?
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering, 1800 West Overland, Boise. We’ve been working on this subdivision for quite a long time. As Shari indicated, one of the problems we had
was Nampa Meridian Irrigation District will not allow you to have your overflow go back into their live ditch. So on most parcels, we have some type of historical drainage ditch or
slew which allows us to overflow that water. We worked with them for months trying to come to some type of agreement, and they would not budget. At that point in time, Mr. Briggs at
our office submitted information to Gary Smith for his review as justification if your staff could support a waiver of the pressurized irrigation requirement. They indicated that they
could. That’s what we’re asking for this evening. It’s not a residential development; it’s an office development, very few lots, small parcel. As you can see it’s an in-fill parcel.
Corrie: Thank you, Becky. Yes, Ma’am.
Holstein: Yes, I’m Linda Holstein. I live across the street from the property.
Corrie: Excuse me. We need to get your name and address, please.
Holstein: Linda Holstein, 870 West Franklin Road, Meridian. I just had a question for the young lady from Briggs. Is this in any way going to affect the green feeder box that’s sitting
there now that we would get our irrigation water from across the street? It’s going to be placed somewhere else on that property, then?
Briggs: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering. Any historical irrigation water that’s come through this property and then goes across the street, we have to continue that on. We have
to coordinate that with the District. If that’s like your box where you’d get your water, if any alteration of that box is required, we’d have to have their approval and make sure you
get your water.
Holstein: That’s all we needed.
Corrie: Anyone else from the public that would like to issue testimony on Item No. 6? Okay. Hearing none, Council, any other questions?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. I’ll entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
Bird: So moved.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing on Item No. 6. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: Council, comments, discussion?
Bird: I have none. Mr. Mayor, I move that we have the attorney draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order for the request for variance of conditions
of platting and City Ordinance 12-5-2.N regarding pressurized irrigation at the Scottsdale Subdivision by Wolfe Commercial Enterprise, LLC, and for the comments of Gary Smith’s letter
dated from February 11th be included.
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to have the attorney draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law with approval of variance request VAR 00-005 as stated in the motion. Anything
further? Hearing none, Mr. Clerk, roll-call vote, please.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird; aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 7. FP 00-006 Request for final plat approval for 27.61 acres with 81 building lots in a R-4 zone for Wilkins Ranch Subdivision by Steiner Development, LLC – NW ¼ Section 3, T3N,
R1W:
Corrie: Item No. 7, this is a request for final plat approval for 27.61 acres with 81 building lots in an R-4 zone for Wilkins Ranch Subdivision by Steiner Development, LLC, northwest
¼ Section 3, T3N, R1W. Okay. Council, you have that request in front of you for approval of the final plat. Staff report or anything on staff?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, you have our comments dated April 13, 2000. Ms. Bowcutt has responded. I’d like her to clarify on one of the issues on No. 2 under general requirements
it states they’re installing a feeder ditch, and that was in response to all ditches be tiled; I want to make sure that would be a tiled feeder ditch. This originally had come in with
the requirement for a pathway along the Eight Mile Lateral. They are continuing to have problems with Nampa Meridian Irrigation District to provide those pathways, and they’re just
proposing to fence that off until perhaps the City can come to agreement with Nampa Meridian to allow those. It’s not likely given their present frame of mind that they would allow
it for a live irrigation lateral. We did make an error in our Comment No. 14 under site-specific. It was Lot 7, Block 1, and I believe the applicant will be able to address the lots
to meet the minimum frontages on all of the lots. Bruce had made the comment on No. 12, and I’m unclear what he was referring to, but Ms. Bowcutt has stated she will comply with whatever
the requirements are when the final plat is presented for signature; whether to graphically depict those easements or handle it in a note. So staff would recommend approval of the plat
with the conditions of staff and agencies.
Corrie: Any comment from the Council? Becky?
Bowcutt: Becky Bowcutt, Briggs Engineering, 1800 West Overland. To answer Shari’s question, it’s just a typo on the memo that I sent her. The secretary dropped off the pipe word.
That’s supposed to be 15-inch pipe, and there’s something missing. There’s a feeder ditch that comes through this property. The Rutledge Drain is on the boundary here. It’s on the
school’s property. The Rutledge comes up here, and then it kind of slides over a little bit and it came across this parcel. We have picked it up and piped it with cooperation from
the school district granting us an easement and piped it right along here and then across. Then another little – that was the Rutledge. Then another feeder ditch came here and served
the property due north. We piped that with a 15-inch pipe running right along that exterior boundary. What Shari was talking about with the Eight Mile Lateral right here, it’s quite
a large facility. Nampa Meridian, as Shari indicated, is still not cooperating with us on pathways along these live ditches. I have provided a separate lot to accommodate the full
easement of the Eight Mile Lateral, and the same is true for the Lakes at Cherry Lane No. 9 on the south side. So there will be separate lots there if in the future a pathway was ever
allowed, it’s provided for as far as being a separate lot, it wouldn’t be part of any of these private, residential lots. I think that’s it.
Corrie: Item No. 14 is Lot 7, Block 1?
Bowcutt: Yes.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, just one comment for Becky. I have talked to Doug Campbell and gave him a contact in the Governor’s office that’s working on –
working with Nampa Meridian Irrigation District and some of these easements and how cooperative they are to work with. I would encourage you to mention to Doug to note this project
as well as the other projects that he was going to discuss with him.
Bowcutt: Okay. That sounds good. One of the big problems we have is with their attorney. Maybe it’d be nice if your attorney could talk to their attorney.
Corrie: Okay. Any other questions from staff or Becky?
deWeerd: No.
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Hearing none, I’ll entertain a motion on the request for final plat approval for Wilkins Ranch Subdivision, Item No. 7.
McCandless: Mr. Mayor, I move that we approve the final plat approval for 27.61 acres with 81 building lots in an R-4 zone for Wilkins Ranch Subdivision by Steiner Development, LLC,
and instruct our attorney to prepare the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law and Decision of Order and to incorporate the comments of Planning and Zoning.
Corrie: Is there a second?
deWeerd: Second.
Corrie: Okay, motion has been made and seconded to approve the final plat of Wilkins Ranch Subdivision, Item No. 7, FP 00-006, and to incorporate the comments of the Planning and Zoning
as staff and to have the attorney draw up the proper order and papers. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 8. FP 00-005 Request for final plat approval for 7.25 acres with 4 building lots in a proposed C-G zone for Overland Mini Storage Subdivision by Overland Mini Storage, LLC –
1230 E. Overland Road:
Corrie: Item No. 8 is a request for final plat approval of 7.25 acres with 4 building lots in a proposed C-G zone for Overland Mini Storage Subdivision by Overland Mini Storage, LLC,
1230 East Overland Road. Staff comments.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I’d just like to verify with the City Clerk that the Ordinance for this property has been published. We got a little ahead of ourselves in processing
this application. It shouldn’t have been processed until the annexation was actually approved, but –
Berg: (inaudible)
Stiles: It was approved on the 4th. Is that a problem if it hasn’t?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, if the ordinance has not been published, we can put this off and after a break, Mr. Berg can check in terms of a publication date, but if
it’s not in the requisite amount of time, then we shouldn’t act on this particular deal.
Berg: I’m assuming we’d do it after (inaudible)
Bird: Can you check it out if we take a five-minute break?
Corrie: Or do you want to wait until the next meeting? Can you look it up? I don’t want to put you on the spot.
Berg: I don’t think I could even do that for sure because we don’t even get the notice back of being published until after the fact, and that’s usually about two weeks after the fact.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, Mr. Unger is here representing the applicant, and I don't know if he has seen the Ordinance published.
Corrie: Let the record show that Mr. Unger is shaking his head no. Okay. Probably a better idea to table it to the 2nd of May.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Clerk, do we have a letter of transmittal or anything that we send in with these ordinances that would show when it was sent or anything? How do we do that? I’m
asking the question.
Berg: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, we fax the Ordinances in. We do a lot of e-mail transmission, but I think with the Ordinances signed and stuff, we’ll fax them in or mail them
in, and then we get a notice, a certified notice from the Statesman saying they published it in the paper. Like I said, that’s a couple weeks after the fact that we turn it in. I’d
have to look through Shelby’s file to find a fax confirmation that we turned it in, but my concern is that wouldn’t tell me for sure when it was published. We have a window of 10 days
after it’s passed to get it in. Sometimes we have the map, or sometimes we have to get the map.
Bird: And we don’t control when they publish it as long as we get it in.
Berg: We get it in by a certain time. They say it’s going to be published in Friday’s papers. Friday is what they set aside for Meridian’s – so much for a daily newspaper. We have
a designated date of Fridays.
Corrie: Bob, did you want to say something? Come up here, give you the privilege. It’s your final plat. I have a question that I’m sure you’re going to answer here.
Unger: Bob Unger with Pinnacle Engineers, 870 North Linder Road, Suite B, Meridian. I guess the question I have is since the plat is not being signed yet, do we really have such a
legal technicality here that the City Council couldn’t go forward and then approve the final plat with the understanding that it wouldn’t get signed until verification of the Ordinance
being published? Could we not go forward that way?
Corrie: That’s a legal question. Counselor, do you have any comments?
Nichols: Mayor, members of the Council, I think that might be okay because you’re going to do Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law anyway. Aren’t you, on these final plats? You’re
going to have that, so if you tell me, go, then we’ll have it ready to go on the 2nd. That way it’s not put off for another two weeks.
Corrie: Okay. Any other questions, discussion?
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we have the attorney draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law, Decision of Order for Overland Mini Storage, the final plat approval of 7.25
acres with 4 building lots in a proposed C-G zone at 1230 East Overland Road to include staff comments. That’s automatic.
deWeerd: I’d second it.
Corrie: Motion’s been made and seconded to approve the request for the final plat and the attorney to draw up the Findings of Facts and Conclusions of Law including staff comments for
the 5-2-2000 meeting. Any further discussion? Okay. Mr. Berg, would you take a roll-call vote, please.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Item 9. Tabled April 4, 2000: Ada County Development Services 00-10 PDR / 00-05: Request for Preliminary Plat for Edinburgh Subdivision – 138 Lots on 40.69 Acres by Steve Smith – ½
mile east of Eagle Road on McMillan Road:
Corrie: Thank you Bob. Item No. 9, this was tabled from April 4, 2000. It’s Ada County Development Services. Request for preliminary plat for Edinburgh Subdivision, 138 lots on 40.69
acres by Steve Smith, ½ mile east of Eagle Road on Meridian Road. At this time I’ll have staff bring us up to date. I wasn’t here at that meeting, so staff, would you kind of give
us a what’s happening here?
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a property in our area of impact. It’s south of the Vienna Woods Subdivision. As you recall, this was the subdivision that we required to
request annexation prior to acting on the plat. We kind of heard about this – we just got the application in the mail. We hadn’t had any discussion with the applicant or his representative.
The plat is generally in conformance with our Ordinance, but there are some differences. Applicant’s representative has stated that they have redesigned this to meet Ada County’s requirements.
I think the design still leaves a lot to be desired, but we also had a question for Ada County as to why they were calling it a planned residential development when nothing about it
seemed to indicate there were any amenities or open space. They do show a small 16,000 plus tot lot for 138 homes. I believe Mr. Nichols has also reviewed the –
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-- not the impact fee, the area of impact ordinance with Ada County. He has addressed – I guess I’ll let him talk about – he should speak to what he had decided. Public Works Department
has not had adequate time to review this. They have no plans of what’s being proposed as they are proposing to sewer into the City of Meridian. I’d also like to ask about the possibility
of imposing park impact fees if the City is going to serve this property with services. We had prepared some preliminary comments, however, we haven’t finalized those and did not want
to give those to you until we had completed a review until we received all the information we needed.
Corrie: Okay. Mr. Nichols, did you have a comment here?
Nichols: Yes, Mayor, members of the Council, one of the issues that’s come up on some of these development applications that are in the County but within the area of impact is what
is the role of the City with regard to that development. As I reviewed the impact agreement as it’s set out in the Ada County Ordinance, it states in one portion that all subdivisions
are to be approved by the City of Meridian as well as Ada County. In another place it talks about land-use applications are to be submitted to the city for comment, and comments are
given no greater weight than any other comment or testimony or evidence. It would be my opinion that because the Ada County Development Agreement Ordinance states that subdivisions
are subject to City Approval that the City could impose whatever required conditions are consistent with the City’s policy and Ordinances as part of that development; such as, installation
of dry sewer and water lines; such as, an agreement, an irrevocable consent to annex to the
City when the parcel is contiguous and served by City services, and those things could be conditioned approval for a subdivision application. I would also like the Council to note that
this is on the agenda for the April 20th Ada County Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, and I don’t know when this application was first brought to the attention of the City of
Meridian. Mr. Berg, do you have anything in your files that show when it was first brought to your attention?
Berg: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I don’t have a date that it was. Ada County Development Services date of transmittal is March 15th. We did table it from a previous meeting.
All this was faxed information that’s in our packets.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Ms. Stiles has a comment.
Corrie: Shari.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, I did have a note from Brad that talked to Ada County. Steve Hopkins, Ada County Planner on the projects said that they have moved the hearing from April
20th to May 11th. They have requested that we have our comments to them by May 5th. I don’t know if that will give Gary enough time to review or if we are going to ask for a complete
preliminary plat application be submitted to the City.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, Gary, does that give you enough time?
Smith: We should be able to look at the preliminary plans for it. The applicant had come to Public Works Department. I don’t recall when it was, some time ago, and talked to me, met
with me about service for this subdivision into the existing Vienna Woods sewer system. I’d related to them that it was included in the service area for the lift station that’s being
constructed in Vienna Woods. We had some discussions about whether or not the entire project would sewer by gravity into Vienna Woods or if there would need to be some sewer line built
in McMillan. I haven’t seen any details, I don’t believe, on that question. We also talked about the need for construction of a length of sewer line in McMillan adjacent to this subdivision
that would be part of our master plan. Again, I don’t think the question was answerable at the time as to whether this subdivision would require that sewer in McMillan or not. Anyway,
there were some preliminary discussion with developer and his engineer. We should be able to look at the preliminary plans for it. The applicant had come to Public Works Department.
I don’t recall when it was, some time ago, and talked to me, met with me about service for this subdivision into the existing Vienna Woods sewer system. I’d related to them that it
was included in the service area for the lift station that’s being constructed in Vienna Woods. We had some discussions about whether or not the entire project would sewer by gravity
into Vienna Woods or if there would need to be some sewer line built in McMillan. I haven’t seen any details, I don’t believe, on that question. We also talked about the need for construction
of a length of sewer line in McMillan adjacent to this subdivision that
would be part of our master plan. Again, I don’t think the question was answerable at the time as to whether this subdivision would require that sewer in McMillan or not. Anyway, there
were some preliminary discussion with developer and his engineer concerning the subdivision and how it would or could tie to Vienna Woods. But we should be able to look at the preliminary
engineering plans for sewering of it and domestic water.
deWeerd: Did we have some problems even servicing Vienna Woods, if I remember right, through the Five Mile, but until the white is developed, that it’s –
Smith: We have capacity in the south slew for – well, actually, the capacity problem is in Locust Grove and the 8-inch sewer line that comes off of Summerfield, excuse me, it serves
up to that charter school. Vienna Woods would discharge into that 8-inch line into Locust Grove. There was some additional capacity in that 8-inch line for other properties in this
area. The number of lots has not been absolutely established, but it was somewhere around 50 lots in excess of the Vienna Woods Subdivision. One of my concerns when I met with the
developer was if we have the City of Meridian has obligated itself to serve the entire 80 acres of Vienna Woods by approving their preliminary plat, obviously, we’ve obligated ourselves
to service the two phases of final plat filed with Vienna Woods. That’s probably a question that Mr. Nichols would have to answer for me as to whether or not the preliminary plat approval
of Vienna Woods has obligated us to serve. If that’s the case, take the 80 acres out of the capacity in that sewer line in Locust Grove, then as I said earlier, there’s about 50 lots
that’s slipped over that, could serve from this subdivision since this is next in line. I related that to the developer and his engineer when we talked that that number hadn’t been
firmly established, but we did have that obligation I felt to Vienna Woods. So this total subdivision would not be sewerable or serviced. Be able to be serviced by the existing pressure
line discharging into the, call it Summerfield sewer line in Locust Grove.
deWeerd: So when you give your recommendations, you’ll review that, but will you also include when the white is available, can this then – can the lift station then pump this into the
white?
Smith: Yes. Correct. And we’re anticipating that even though we’ve been delayed on the white, we’re anticipating that we’ll probably be into the spring of 2001 with construction completion
on the white trunk line. So in terms of construction on these subdivision in this area, that should be well ahead of what the need’s going to be.
deWeerd: Thank you.
Corrie: Any other comments? Attorney?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, on Mr. Smith’s question with regard to the City’s obligation, I believe that it would be reasonable to conclude that upon the approval of
the preliminary plat for x-number of lots and a finding that you have the capacity to handle that number of lots that it’s spaces thereby reserved for that number in the City’s infrastructure.
Corrie: Okay. Applicant, any comments on what you’ve heard tonight?
Bunderson: Thank you Mr. Mayor and City Council. My name is Hal Bunderson. I’m a 50 percent partner in this development. We had contact with the developer of Vienna Woods. They
are supportive of the development and the fact that we would access their pump station to the extent lots would be available or there would be capacity in the Summerfield Subdivision
line. We hope that you would agree to at least a first phase of whatever capacity that’s determined that’s available for sewer, and we’d also hook up to the Meridian water that is already
will be coming down to service Vienna Woods, and we would just access that also. So what we’re requesting to the extent that you need to give us direction we’ll follow that, is that
we be granted to use the lots that could be assigned to fill that capacity so that we could start the latter part of this year, then when the White Line comes through, then we’d look
to the rest. But we’re not looking for approval of the entire subdivision at this time; just what’s available for sewer capacity. I’d be glad to respond to questions as best I can.
Corrie: Council have any questions at this point?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I would like to reserve questions until when our staff has a chance to review the applications and give staff comments on it. So I would like to table this until
May 2nd to give staff an opportunity to make those comments and do an analysis of what they can service sewerwise. So I think it’d be advantageous to wait until then. It’s hard to
read this little reduction of –
Corrie: Do we have the – have you got the big one? Okay.
deWeerd: Do you need additional copies of that?
Corrie: Where would they come from, Shari? From them or from the –
Stiles: I’m sure the engineer could get us a copy if Mr. Bunderson instructed him.
Corrie: There are some questions that I’d like to go over with the engineer as well and the P & Z on that. I would recommend that we do table this until May 2nd so we can have some
questions answered on that. That’s my thought on that. Any other comments?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Okay. I’ll entertain a motion to – desires on that one.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, I move that we table the Ada County Development Services, 00-10 PDR / 00-05 for request for preliminary plat for Edinburgh Subdivision.
Corrie: Okay. Motion’s been made; do I hear a second?
Bird: Second.
Corrie: Motion is made and seconded to table Item No. 9 which the Ada County Development Services request for the preliminary plat until May 2nd. Any further discussion?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, that would be in hopes that we have a complete set of staff comments at that time. Okay. Thank you.
Corrie: With that addition, is there any other comments? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Department Reports:
B. Fire Department – Chief Ken Bowers:
1. Approval of Fire Truck Contract:
Corrie: We have some final things that we need to bring up. The Fire Department request from Chief Bowers, the approval of the fire truck contract.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I have one question on this contract. We are being charged .022 percent per day of unpaid balance starting the day the unit leaves the factory. Where’s the warranty
that says it gets out here that everything is going to work and they’ll take care of everything? I would think that the final payment would come after the truck got out here and tested
out and everything, and I was under the impression that that’s what Ron had instructed Kenneth to get this taken care of. I might be wrong, Kenny, but could you answer that? I’d like
the attorney, I’m sure he’s – have you read this? Are we being covered very good?
Bowers: Mayor Corrie, City Council members, we will not pay for the truck, the final payment of the truck, until it has got here and we have gone through our checklist to go through
the whole truck and we go down and pump the truck to make sure it pumps exactly the way we want it to pump. It’ll take three to four
days to drive it out here, and we will have it set up so Doug Young from the rating bureau will be there within a couple days to pump it, to test it, and before we give the final approval.
So we will not pay for it until it’s done.
Bird: Okay. Let me bring something up to the attorney, then. Right down here in this contract, if we sign it, Hughes Fire Equipment, Inc., will invoice the City of Meridian at the
rate of .022 percent per day of the unpaid balance starting from the day the unit leaves the factory and until the day that Pierce receives the final payment. No way shape or form are
we going to be penalized for them getting it out here and before they can test it. That is a penalty. We’ve (inaudible) AIA contract which billions of dollars are done from, but we
take a contract like this and we’re going to pay .022 percent per day on unpaid balance that we haven’t even got the truck here, haven’t even been passed and accepted? I can’t speak
for the other two Councilmen, but I’m not for it.
Corrie: Bill?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, Councilman Bird, members of the Council, It seemed unusual to me that you start paying the interest from the time it leaves the factory instead of at the time that
the item is accepted. It’s – that was not in the last one. What was there? A $1500 – last time, and so it’s essentially the same thing. What I thought was –
Bowers: We figured it was going to be $300 or $400 what we were going to have to pay.
Nichols: That’s what this percentage works out to. There is a provision in the contract, basically, that ten days after arrival, to run it through the paces and accept the apparatus.
Bowers: This is the first time we had this – we’ve always paid for it before when we got it, and that’s a little different than waiting until it gets here.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, all they’ve done, Kenneth, is instead of putting a flat fee of $1500 which we picked up on a minute, they come in here and they invoiced you for unpaid balance. We
haven’t even seen the truck, we haven’t even approved the truck. We’re paying them $300-some thousand dollars for the truck which is probably got at least a 25 or 30 percent profit
margin in, and they’re going to – I mean, I’ll make a motion to approve this if we strike this, and we can strike it. Then they have to either accept it or not accept it. This is basically
saying the same thing. Instead of saying $1500, they’re just saying .022 percent from the day it leaves the factory. If it takes five days – what if it breaks down coming out? And
what if we don’t test it for six days? Until we pay that final, we’re paying that percent. I’m not – jiminy Christmas. It’s not like we’re buying a $3000 thing from them. It’s not
like we’re financing it from them. We’re putting
money up front for the chassis. We’re giving them over half of it at the completion of the chassis without even putting on the rest of the stuff.
Bowers: So they know we’re going to buy the rest of it.
Corrie: We can certainly make the motion to strike that under the condition that they do (inaudible)
Bird: Well, I would make a motion that you sign it and Clerk attest it with that stricken. If they don’t accept it, then we come out. That’s a motion.
Nichols: Councilman Bird, Mayor, members of the Council, you can strike a provision by interlineation just Z-line out through that and initial it if that’s what you choose to do, and
then we see who blinks.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: We certainly would do it like your answer is yes and no. Okay.
Bird; Mr. Mayor, I move that we accept this contract for the sum of $3,303.00 for the Fire One Pierce – 2000 pumper with the deletion of paragraph 2 on Page 2 that states Hughes Fire
Equipment, Incorporated, will invoice the City of Meridian at the rate of .022 percent per day of the unpaid balance starting from the day it leaves the factory until the day that Pierce
receives the final payment and for the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest with that stricken.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion has been made and seconded that we approve the contract, the Mayor to sign, the Clerk to attest with the strike-out on the second page beginning with Hughes Fire Equipment
invoice the City and final that day Pierce receives the payment will be struck out and initialed and signed and sent to them for their approval. Any further discussion?
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, Kenny, is this a standard thing in this kind of contract?
Bowers: Talking with Pierce, it is. For fire trucks. I guess it’s like he stated. It’s like the (inaudible) we’ll pay flooring fees even before the truck gets on location from Ford
Motor Company. They’re paying that. I don’t know if that’s true or not, I don’t know. It seemed like it’d be more feasible to possibly once that truck is in our hands is that that’s
when we would start paying a fee or something like that. Not like coming out here. Like he said, if it breaks down and it’s on the road for six or seven days, we’re not – that’s not
our liability to be paying for it.
deWeerd: Well, could it be negotiated that within a certain amount of days upon receipt of the truck that that could start? If it’s a regular policy of this outfit, I would –
Bird: We’ll find out. When the Mayor sends this back with his signature and Will’s on there and it’s stricken, we’ll find out if they want to negotiate with us. But you can’t negotiate.
We’ve been negotiating before. All they did was take out the actual figure that showed $1500 and put in .022 percent. That is ridiculous, Tammy. We’re paying money up-front. It
isn’t as if we’re financing the thing and we’re not going to take it, but they want us to pay them up front before it’s ever been accepted or tested. Then when it’s tested and it don’t
work, then who’s fault? We don’t have no money to hold from them because we’ve paid it or we’ve paid interest. It’s one-sided.
Corrie: Kenny, who is driving this out? Them or us?
Bowers: Pierce. Yes. They will drive it out themselves.
Bird: What do you think, Mayor?
Corrie: I agree with you 100 percent. They’ll come back real quick and let you know how they feel about it, and we can go somewhere else.
Bird: We can talk to them.
Nichols: Mayor, members of the Council, my math is not real good without a little pocket calculator, but with my preliminary chicken scratches here, I don’t think that this is going
to make or break the deal. It’s not enough money if I’ve calculated it correctly that they’ll walk away from it. I’ve had family members in the car business, and generally you get
30 days free flooring after the car’s there.
Corrie: All right. Any further discussion? If none, roll-call vote.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Contract for Fire Station II with ZGA Architects:
Corrie: The second one is Fire Department, the contract for Fire State II with ZGA Architects.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, after having discussion with the attorney at the Pre-Council meeting and everything, and he certainly has no heartaches over this. He thinks it’s a doable contract.
It’s something that we’ve used this architectural firm quite a few times, and it’s always worked out pretty good for us. I move that we accept
the contract for Fire Station No. 2 for the design and plans of the building with ZGA Architects, and for the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to have the approval of the contract for Fire Station No. 2 with ZGA Architects, Mayor to sign and the City Clerk to attest. Any further discussion?
All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Change Order No. 5 Franklin Road Fire Station:
Corrie: Change Order No. 5 for Franklin Road Fire Station.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, first of all, as I’ve said 100 times, I want to compliment the Committee, Ron Anderson, Kenny Bowers and ZGA for that large of building that the general contractor
and not have any more change orders. We have, as Kenny stated earlier, we’ve probably on that – what was the total cost, Kenny, 1.3 million? Something like that. We had $20,000 in
change orders. Chief Gordon is going to make sure our police station doesn’t have ten, but we’ll go – with that I move that we accept this change order No. 5 for the sum of $1,360.00.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion made and seconded to accept Change Order No. 5 for the fire station in the amount of $1,360. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor of the
motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Police Department - Chief Gordon:
1a. JAIBG:
Corrie: Police Department, Item 1a was the JAIBG, Juvenile Grant for approval to accept. Any further discussion?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: If none, I’ll entertain a motion on the request, Item 1a. Cherie?
McCandless: I move that we accept the request for grant for – I don’t have it in front of me.
deWeerd: The Juvenile Accountability Incentive Block Grant.
McCandless: Yes. It’s JAIBG issued by the Association of Idaho Cities. Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest.
Bird: I’ll second that.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to approve the JAIBG grant of the AIC, the Mayor to sign and the Clerk to attest. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Professional Services / Architect for new Police
Department building:
Paint the Town liability insurance waiver:
Corrie: I believe we need a – on the professional services, architect for new police building, I believe that was set to come back May the 2nd. All right. Paint the Town Insurance
waiver.
3. Wages: Review Information
Bird: I think the Clerk and Chief was going to look into that with our insurance policy, weren’t they? Those two will take care of that. What about the wages?
Corrie: Wages, there’s nothing we can do until Tammy gets informed of what’s going on, and then Council will have to have an open hearing. Okay.
D. Mayor – Robert Corrie:
Appointments to Commissions:
Historical Commission:
Corrie: Next item is Mayor, appointments to Commissions, Historical Society. Did everybody get a copy of this in your mailbox? Okay. On the Historical Commission, I talked with Lila
Hill. She was to be an ex officio member not particularly on the Board, and she had talked to all the people, and the appointments will be Malcolm McCoy, Rick Hatcher, Frank Thomason,
Tom Hammond, Lawrence Shapiro. The dates that their commission will come up again for Council approval will be Malcolm McCoy on 2001; Rick Hatcher, 2002; Frank Thomason, 2002; Tom Hammond,
2003; and Lawrence Shapiro, 2003 with Lila Hill as an ex officio. With that recommendation to the Council for the members of the Historical Commission. Questions?
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I’ve got one question, and I should have brought this up when you and I discussed it. I’ve got a problem with – we’ve got one person that seems to be on every committee
in the City. I wonder if we stretched too thin or something sometimes. I don’t know how the other Council feel, and I can go either – I’m certainly not going to sit and argue over
it, but I really wonder if –
Corrie: That’s a pretty hard Commission to get people to work on. Lila has talked to all of these people, especially (inaudible). I understand what you’re saying, but this is just
a Commission that works with historical parts of the City on that Commission. I’d say it’s – there’s not many people that come to those meetings, but it’s an important committee. Those
are the only ones that have really wanted to serve on it.
deWeerd: Did we advertise for that?
Corrie: Lila Hill even went out and knocked on doors. This is the ones that said they’d be happy to do it.
Bird: If he’s a sucker for punishment, then it’s fine with me.
Corrie: Malcolm is one of those people that got a second chance to live, and he is trying to do all he can for everybody. I tried to talk him – tried to do too much, but he’s –
Bird: His health can only last so long. I have no problem with that. I move that we accept the Mayor’s appointment for the Historical Commission. Malcolm McCoy, Rich Hatcher, Tom
Hammond, Lawrence Shapiro with Lila Hill as ex officio.
McCandless: I’ll second that.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to accept the nomination of the five people on the Historical Commission. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Parks and Recreation Commission:
Corrie: Parks and Recreation Commission. I’ve got the name of Glenn Bentley. That’s – we didn’t get anybody from the paper advertising, and that’s the only one that we did get hits.
He had his on file before. That’s the one we got just today from the ex-superintendent that said if she would if nobody else would.
deWeerd: Mr. Mayor, the Parks Commission set up the subcommittee to look at the letters of interest. They had told the people who had indicated an interest for
the last opening that they would be considered for future openings. So to their knowledge, they still have the seven that applied then as well as any new ones that came in. They did
establish a subcommittee that’s going to meet in the next week to go over those. So I don’t think they knew.
Corrie: I realize that they can look at them, but this is the Mayor’s decision of who he wants on that Board. I work with those people as much as possible, but this is the one that
I chose out of that group. Now, if the Council doesn’t want to do it for whatever reasons you want to do it, that’s fine. But this is the one that I put up at this point. Council
can either approve or disapprove, and then we’ll go to somebody else.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, You have always before on the Council, on the appointment of Parks and Recreation Commission along with yourself have had the Parks and Recreation Commission give you
a list of people and then brought them forward to us. I would hope that you’d think back on this and maybe, I don’t think that by not appointing the guy tonight that we’re going to
kill the Parks and Recreation Commission. Maybe you could sit down with the liaison and Tom and maybe the President and work something out. I’d be the first to say that it’s your decision
of who you bring forward. I have no problem with that. Then we have to approve it if we so approve. But I’d – you’ve always done it before on this Parks and Recreation Commission;
you’ve always gone through with the Parks and Recreation people and stuff, and it might help a little if you – if they think they’re getting circumvented or something. I don’t know.
That’s strictly your decision, and it’s our decision of how we vote.
Corrie: That’s correct. But the one that’s in front of you tonight is Mr. Bentley, ex-Council person. He was on that list as well.
deWeerd: My preference would be to wait.
Corrie: You can’t wait. I make an appointment, you’ve got to either accept it or reject it. Then I’ll give you some other one.
deWeerd: But if we do that, then this name wouldn’t be considered by the group. Is that what I –
Corrie: That’s correct if you rejected that appointment.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, if I could intercede again. Then I think that is what Tammy is trying to say. She doesn’t want this name stricken right out, but she wants to be able to, with yourself
and her and Tom and the Council, the Commission President, go through these others. Evidently, they were told that their names would stay in the active file. The way you’ve had it,
I don’t know, but – the active file.
Corrie: I’ve made the statement, Mr. Bird, that there were no new people that came into my office in recommendation from the people themselves. Now, there’s a list that the Commission
has, and Mr. Bentley’s name was part of those, and out of that list, I thought that he would make a good one because he is very mindful of park land, he wants to see that we buy park
land, and he’s worked with the Parks and Recreation, he’s worked with some of the people here. Now, I feel that he would be a good person to have on that Parks and Recreation Commission.
Now, Councilman Bird, that’s part of the Mayor to make that recommendation. That’s exactly what I’m doing. If you don’t want him, then you reject it and it would go to somebody else,
but his name would not come back up until all of them are over because you rejected that name, and I have ten days to bring another one up. I have to bring another up. That’s according
to law. So am I right, Mr. Nichols? I mean, that’s the way it’s done; is that correct?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I have to admit I’m not well versed on that particular ordinance, but if that’s what you’ve done in the past, I’ve got nodding heads on the
Council here that’s what your Ordinance says.
Corrie: I’m just bringing this name up because it’s the one that I thought would make a good one for the Parks and Recreation. It’s not a Board that makes decisions for the Council.
They make recommendations and then – I don’t see where his recommendations would be different from the Board that you have there now. Again, this is the one that I’m bringing forward
to you. You either accept it or reject it.
deWeerd: Well, because my preference is built to follow the normal – the way things have been up to this point, I can’t make a motion.
Bird: I have no problem making a motion, then we vote and it’s over whether we’ll be sitting here until 10:00 standing here looking dumb. I have no problem with making a motion and
then we can vote. Either accept or reject.
deWeerd: I do know that the Commission is trying to get new residents interested in participating on these committees. That has been one of the main considerations.
McCandless: Mr. Mayor, not having been on the Council very long, not really knowing how things are done, but I don’t think that Tammy’s request is out of line as far as since she’s
the liaison to maybe discuss it with you a little bit. I know it’s your prerogative, and I have no objection to Mr. Bentley. I like him very much, but I just think that Tammy should
have a little bit of discussion along with it before it’s voted on, I guess. I don’t know how it’s been done.
Bird: Well, what do you want to do? You’ve got to make a motion; we either accept it or we deny it. If you – Cherie, if you – what you’re saying right now, you vote no and you reject
it and you go back.
McCandless: I don’t like the idea that he’s taken clear off the list.
Bird: He don’t have to be, I guess. I don’t know. He could come back. We brought one back a time before, Mayor. We brought one back that we had retracted the first time because
we only had one and we asked for a couple more. You remember? On the first one, Parks and Recreation Commission that I sat on – the one that I had a vote on when I was on the Council
was we had only one come forward and you at that time didn’t think that was enough. And we brought two forward, and we brought that one back.
Corrie: Let me make a question here to you. You refused – you didn’t refuse. You turned one down before, and that person has asked not be done again. I think when you reject somebody,
they’re not going to come back and take a second – slug them out. In this case, again, it’s the Mayor that has to make an appointment. I’m making it. You either accept it or reject
it. Let’s go on with our business. Let’s get this thing done and over with, and, again, that’s what it’s – he has to make a recommendation. I’m making one to you. You either accept
it or reject it. That’s all I’m asking.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we –
Corrie: It has to be in the positive.
Bird: I don’t know which way to state this. Could I do, I’m like Cherie. I have – the guy sitting right next to me, I’ve got all the respect in the world, but by the same token, I
think we need to have a little bit better open mode to get these things done.
Corrie: I’m telling you, it’s not going to make any difference to me how you vote, but let’s do it because it –
Bird: I move that we reject Glenn Bentley as a Commissioner.
deWeerd: I second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion’s been made and seconded to reject the Mayor’s recommendation to have Glenn Bentley on the Parks and Recreation Commission. Any further discussion? All those
in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: Okay. All opposed. In 10 days I’ll give you another one.
Bird: Wait a minute, Mayor. Before we go any further. I don’t think there’s anything in our Ordinance or anything else that says you can’t bring his name back up. I would, as a Councilman,
would wish that you would. Okay?
Corrie: Okay. I’ll take that under advisement.
Downtown Development Committee:
Corrie: Okay. The next one is the Downtown Development Committee. Do you have that list here? Okay. We’ve got Lori Jones, Clarence Jones, Jim Johnson, Malcolm McCoy, Anne Marie
Mollenar-Schram, Terry Sackland, Richard Allison, Terry Smith, Meg Parker, Steve Siddoway and the 11th, ex officio member, Keith Bird. Now, there is a question in my mind that you might
want the 11th one there, Gary Benoit has made an indication that he might be interested. We can put that name in – I will put that name in there as the 11th one, excuse me, 12th. Keith
Bird’s an ex officio. He’s not the 11th.
Bird: He will be the 11th.
Corrie: He will be the 12th.
Bird: Do you want to add him now, Mayor?
Corrie: Yes. I would, having talked to him today, I would.
Bird: He’s definitely going to be a player downtown. Gary Benoit. He’s the one that’s doing the old Mangum and the old (inaudible). Very knowledgeable person. Mr. Mayor, I move
that we approve this Meridian Downtown Development Committee. Lori Jones, Clarence Jones, Jim Johnson, Malcolm McCoy, Anne Marie Mollenar-Schram, Terry Sackland, Richard Allison, Terry
Smith, Meg Parker, Steve Siddoway, Gary Benoit, and Keith Bird as ex officio.
McCandless: I second.
Corrie: Okay. Motion made and seconded to approve the Downtown Development Committee of the 12 people that were named. Are there any further discussions? Hearing none, all those
in favor of that motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: I will notify them. I would like to have that started as quickly as possible. Also, this Committee, there’s some people from the Boise Redevelopment Committee that said they
would be happy to sit in and help them on there.
Bird: We need to draw up a draft of the purpose or something. Whatever you do (inaudible).
Corrie: Right. They’ll have a mission statement of what they’ll need to do.
Bird: Could we use Mr. Nichols as a legal –
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Corrie: -- help us.
Bird: -- help us get lined out.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, if it’s within the contract, we’ll do it.
Bird: Can you handle that?
Nichols: Within reason.
City Engineer – Gary Smith’
1. Summers Funeral Home waterline extension:
Corrie: Okay. Gary. You had a request on the funeral home.
Smith: Thank you. At the Pre-Council meeting I handed out a little summary of some information that I have put together on the decision that needs to be made as to whether we extend
water to the Summers Funeral Home project on the east side of Eagle Road, south side of Ustick Road. If you’d like we can review through these items.
Bird: We’ve pretty well read through them.
Corrie: I think we’ve already gone through it, Gary.
Smith; The fine lines between what would happen, what it would take of the City of Meridian to extend the water line to this site and the point where the building contractor says he
will be installing combustible materials is approximately the same time, within a week, maybe. Our consulting engineer said they could get water there by August 2nd. I bumped that
to August 15th. One of the unknowns that we’ve got is crossing under Eagle Road. That requires a specialty contractor, a boring contractor. That contractor’s availability is not known.
There are probably two contractors in the area that do that kind of work. You’re a little bit their schedule for previously committed work. We wouldn’t know for sure until that project
was bid. We did have J-U-B Engineers under contract for our City-wide distribution system improvement project. We can put them right to work on this as part of that project so we don’t
have to go back out and select an engineer. They are ready and willing to get started on it right away. I’ve talked to Winston Moore concerning participation. He’s willing to cooperate
with us in
contributing to the cost of the extension. I don’t know what extent that is. The other – the southeast corner is the Hawkins Smith group, and they seem to be pretty intent on that
corner. We’ve got a little bit of land use issue that when Shari and I met with them last week, I believe it was Shari expressed a concern from the Comprehensive Plan for land use in
that area. I guess it all boils down to where the City wants to go with their service area as concerns our impact boundary. I don’t know if you want to re-review the situation with
PUC and where they are in line with municipality and public regulated utilities which isn’t very far. They’re not protecting us.
Bird: Mr. Mayor. Gary, you’re the Department Head. What’s your recommendation? We go or not? Or do we let United Water have it?
Smith: Well I think we definitely need to get to Eagle Road with our waterline. Getting under Eagle Road is another issue. That – just because of a timing situation. I just really
have a question more in my mind that we can get there in time for this project. Summers has indicated that they would participate in the costs of this waterline extension. They’re
not going to finance the cost of a line from their facility to Eagle Road which was the question that you asked at your planning meeting. They will participate in the cost in a shared
participation with the other property owners and developers in anticipation of a late comer fee. I don’t have a real strong recommendation one way or the other other than Eagle Road.
I think we need to get to Eagle Road.
Bird: Gary, really and truthfully, if we get to the west side of Eagle, we need to get underneath it, too, because we have two major players on that other side that are ready to go.
We haven’t contacted the northeast corner, I don’t believe, regarding – would be a player. They’re very well – they’re wanting to get moved out there. As far as drilling that, if
you guys – you know exactly where it’s going through to Eagle Road, don’t you? We could in the next month or two hire those people – you’re down to maybe one or two as I think Becky
said, there’s only one or two that will actually do the drilling, we could take them out and even pre-drill it before we get the lines there. Can’t we do that? Is it possible to do,
Gary?
Smith: They would be part of the construction project. The general contractor, whoever that is, would get them to work right away. They would be – they would start the boring process
while the other excavation was beginning for the waterlines so that by the time the pipe layers got to Eagle Road, there’s probably a couple weeks involved in getting the casing punched
under Eagle Road by the time they were done with that, they pipe layers should be there from where they would connect to our existing system. So, yeah. Those two pieces of work would
be going on at the same time. They’d be concurrent.
Bird: Mayor, what do you think?
Corrie: I think we should go ahead and do it. I don’t want to give any to United Water. I think that’s pretty known about me. But I think we should start procedure and get going
with it, and by that time, if they – it’s going to take 60 days for United Water to even put the line down and get to service them anyway. If we get that within the timeline and they
start at the other end, we might get lucky and be able to do that whole thing by their time table. If not, then they’ll have to make that decision. I would like to see us get to at
least Eagle Road. If we can get somebody that (inaudible) under the road, and in the meantime while we’re going down to Eagle Road, that’s even to our advantage.
Bird: We’d have to put in the bid going under – I think we ought to throw it into that, and I took it that Summers told us that they would basically – see that they got back up to Eagle
and – they didn’t say. That’s the way that I understood it when I met with them.
Smith: That was your question to them, but they didn’t give us an answer that night. I pressed the architect today about it again, and he said, well, no. What they had talked about
– of course, there is a bit of a problem here because of Jim McGuire’s death. He was kind of leading the charge on that project. So Dave, the remaining partner, the architect said
today that he’s got to bring him up to speed on the things that are on this project, and that’s one reason that they are delayed in getting started with their contractor is because of
this transition. But the architect indicated to me that they did not wish or could not extend the water line at their cost back to Eagle. They would participate in a – with the other
property owners that were interested in this waterline in anticipation of a late comer fee, but there hasn’t been any discussion about actual dollars, numbers of dollars.
Bird: Gary, how much of that was – there’s 4700 total feet. As I remember there was 2,000 feet. Two thousand to the west of Eagle and 2700 to the east or am I opposite?
Smith: I think it’s the other way around. Two thousand to the east and 2700 to the west.
Bird: okay. So the biggest part is coming in here – what’s the 2,000 going to cost the City? Are we going to get hook-up fees and stuff? What does that run a foot to bring –
Smith: Forty dollars a foot.
Bird: So that’d be $80,000. I’m for – to me, personally, it’s worth $80,000 because we’ll get it back. I know we’ve got one player that’ll go in a minute on the east side, and possibly
two plus Summers. I’m like the Mayor. I think we need to get it done. Your recommendation is we approve this? If we do, we’ll
make you switch with all that big money you made, Gary. For all those hours you put in.
Smith: I think it’s probably the – based on the people that are there that are intercede in developing that we need to go ahead and move that way.
Bird: With that, Mr. Mayor –
Corrie: (inaudible) We’ve got to (inaudible) pull all our hair out.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, I move that we give Gary the go-ahead to proceed with getting a contract for the laying of 4700 feet, approximately, of the waterline down Ustick Road through Eagle
Road down to – do we go through? Do we go all the way to our boundary with this, Gary?
Smith: No, sir. We just go down to Summers.
Bird: To the new location of the Summers Funeral Home and to start immediately.
McCandless: I second that.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to approve the decision to have the contract be awarded to extend the waterline from the City limits points on Ustick Road east on Ustick Road under
Eagle Road and then to Summers Funeral Home property. Any further discussion? Roll-call vote, Mr. Berg.
Roll-call: deWeerd, aye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
Corrie: Nothing else on the Council agenda.
Watson: John Watson, 1486 North Silverado Place, Meridian. I’ll do it real briefly, and then you can ask questions. I would request that the City Council revoke the Conditional Use
Permit on the strip mall at the intersection of Cherry and Linder.
Corrie: Reason?
Watson: That is the Dominoes, the Videoland, the Hoagies. I’ve been working with the Mayor and the Code Enforcement Officer in excess of 20 months, and they have been non-responsive
in correcting their code violations for noise, light and trash. What they have is they have a number of lights that are attached to the top of the building, and they are vented out
as opposed to being vented down. So I have lots and lots of light in my backyard. I can read the paper at
midnight. I have been finding Dominoes Pizzas, Videoland boxes, all sorts of trash in my backyard. Street sweepers at 6:00 in the morning on Saturday morning 52 feet from my bedroom
window. I was – I’ve been at every Council meeting that the property owner has come and requested additions to his building. He talked about a brick wall, putting up trees, he’s put
up some trees, and in 20 years they may function properly. They’re about two inches thick. I have a six-foot privacy fence on my side. It’s about five ¼ feet, maybe five feet on his
side. I have a commercial grade dipsey dumpster 47 feet from my house. When they empty the trash at midnight, it sounds like a rifle shot. I’ve called the police out specifically
last June. Police walked in and said, yes, sir, you have a problem. It’s going to require you to take them to court and we really can’t do much for you. This was at 1:00 in the morning.
The lights are on at 5:00 a.m. give or take a little bit. They’re off between 11:30 and 12:45 at night. I would love for somebody to come by my house at midnight. The Code Enforcement
Officer has been working with them for over 14 or 15 months. It hasn’t been solved. Quite frankly, the owner’s telling me to pound sand. I know you know what that means, sir.
Bird: Yeah. I could put it a little differently than that.
Watson: I can take care of the problem, but the Chief won’t like it because it’ll be shooting those lights out, and that’s not the answer. But something has got to be done.
Corrie: You want to be careful. Someone might shoot the lights out and you’re the first one they go to. Okay. Council, questions?
Bird: I have a question of Mr. Nichols on this. What’s the procedure for this to start to revoke their – how long do we have to give them to either conform or we revoke it? We need
to have the Code Enforcement Officer write up some depositions of all that’s going on.
Nichols: Councilman Bird, Mayor, members of the Council, the typical process that I’d look at is I would pull the file and the Conditional Use Permit on this particular project, review
that, talk with the Code Enforcement Officer and see what that file says, and then come back to the Council or the Mayor with the recommendation that if it’s the Council’s or Mayor’s
recommendation that we initiate a revocation-type proceeding or some sort of thing that way so we get the Council authorize to do that because that’s an extraordinary item. It’s also
an item that’s outside the retainer – give you a budget for that and that sort of thing if that’s – or if we look at it and there’s another alternative remedy that we recommend, we go
from there. It’s obviously important enough to this gentleman for him to wait this long and come forward to you tonight. It needs to be looked into.
Corrie: I think we should follow that procedure. The Code Enforcement Officer has been out there many times. He has made many reports, and I think the Council needs to look at that
and see where we’re going.
Bird: I was just going to suggest what Mr. Nichols suggested that I think you and the Department Heads, I know you don’t have anything better to do. Would you get the right stuff done
and get it back to us by the 2nd with a recommendation and at that point we can proceed on? If it’s outside of the contract; I’m not worried about that bill at all. Can you get that
back to us by the 2nd? And either scare the living daylights out of them and get them to conform or take it away from them.
Watson: You know, to fix the lights, we’re only talking about $20 a pop. Tolsma’s fab shop could fix them up right away. He just doesn’t want to do it for lack of a better way to
put it.
Bird: Maybe this way the Mayor will work on it and have something come back recommended on the 2nd one way or the other. Then we’ll proceed whatever way he recommends.
Corrie: We’ve done it many times, and we’ll just add to it and have him make a final check on it. We’ve talked many times, and he’s got a problem. There’s no question about it.
(inaudible) get it fixed and then they do something else. (inaudible) get the reports from him and then we’ll go from there. Thank you for coming to the Council.
McCandless: Mr. Mayor, I have just one question. If we go this route and they suddenly decide that it’s time for them to conform, then what do we do?
Bird: Well, if they get back within the Conditional Use Permit, then I think they – I’m sure that the Mayor can give them so many days to go back, and then if they conform, they’ve
also got to know that whether they get out of conformity, we’re not going to play with them for 14 months again.
McCandless: I think it’s a good idea.
Bird: IS that right?
Corrie: I think (inaudible) tonight.
Bird: I’d love them to get back into conformity with the Conditional Use Permit because you don’t want to lose the business or – you don’t want to handicap the owner, but he’s not
playing the game like the permit says.
McCandless: If you let them get away with it, then –
Bird: You’re going to have it all over the City.
Corrie: If they can’t do it, then they won’t do it.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, if I may have a point of order here. Rather than give the report to the Council members and then create a potential problem with regards
to ex parte evidence outside of a hearing process, I would ask that you not provide those reports. You and I and the Code Enforcement Officer can meet and make a recommendation to the
Council and proceed accordingly, and then if we have to go through a hearing process, then we don’t have that issue.
Corrie: Get with the Police Department? Have a meeting and we’ll get that information.
Bird: You just bring a recommendation back. We don’t want to – Mr. Mayor, if I could please. Thursday at noon we’re meeting at Ada County Highway District. Mr. Berg gave us an agenda.
We need to really be up for it. Are you going to be there, Mayor?
Corrie: Oh, yes.
Bird; Because you’re leaving Thursday. I think Ron will be back. So we need to be there. The next on the 25th is our workshop. We’ll start at 5:30 with the Police assessment. Fire.
I’m sorry. Fire assessment. Then can we move if it’d be okay with the Mayor and the other Council people, I’d like to move SSC up right behind the fire. We had them as No. 3. Then
the rest of the time we can be with the Planning and Zoning. That way Planning and Zoning doesn’t have to come in and listen to those, too. We can bring them back at a later date.
Corrie: That was at 5:30, right?
Bird: Right. 5:30 for the fire.
Corrie: You’re going to bring –
Berg: I haven’t made any notice or any time or anything yet, but we can do that. My suggestion with Councilman Bird was not to have the P & Z there anymore time than they have to do
because they volunteer enough hours. I’d hope that it wouldn’t be too late for them because they’ve had enough late meetings. If you figure an hour and a half for the other items,
and then we can bring them in whatever time.
Bird: That would bring them in at 7:00, Will, and then we can go for two hours with them. We can all get out at a decent hour. Okay with you, Mayor?
Corrie: That’s fine. Don’t forget the 28th. That’s the Department Heads and the City Council retreat. So we’ll have some qestu8ons. I know the Department Heads have a lot of them
for you. That’s from 9:00 to 5:00, and it’s at the – in the shopping center. Ameritel. Bring your swimming suits. Bring your checkbooks because you’re going to have to have lunch
on your own, and then we’ll pay for it by the – the Treasurer’s going to pay back. We figured you’d kind of want to have a break. There’s Applebee’s there and there’s some other restaurants.
We have been meeting at the CEO Boardroom. We’ll have coffee and donuts in the first part of the morning and then they’re going to bring cookies and stuff in the second part of it
and you’ll have your lunch wherever you want to go. If you want to all go to the same place, I’ll opt for the lunch.
Bird: Will you have Will notice it so he don’t have a heart attack?
Berg: Mr. Mayor, I just don’t notice it until it gets closer to the timeframe because we seem to sometimes change times, but it’s on my calendar to notice, and it will be noticed.
Corrie: That one is set in stone. I already paid the bill.
Berg: It will be noticed.
Corrie: Any other?
Nichols: Mayor, if I may, with permission of Councilwoman deWeerd, just a couple of items. We need to get on the decision on the late comer reimbursements. Perhaps we can put that
on the Council agenda for the 2nd of May so that we can do that. The second thing is, we’ve been trying not to inundate the Council with the Ordinances. I see that in the course of
the work I’ve been doing the last few months, Ordinances sort of fall into two categories. One is major shifts and new policy change type things like the work we’ve done on the finance
director. The second is what I would call housekeeping matters where we need to do something to tweek an ordinance to add something to add to an existing ordinance. What I’d like to
be able to do on those housekeeping matters is – and it could be at a workshop where I’m not the agenda. It’s hazardous for an attorney to say that he or she will be brief, but I’ll
do my best to be brief and have a list of items and say we have this and this and this and this so that you know what’s coming before I actually bring the ordinance with a revision to
the meeting if that’s acceptable to you.
Bird: Mr. Mayor, Mr. Nichols, I think that is our plan. That sounds absolutely great. On all our workshops, if you’ve got something, we can give you a time. You bet. That’s what
we want. We want to look those ordinances over and tweek and if we’ve got any questions we want to ask you, instead of sitting here until one, two o’clock on a Council meeting, I’d
ask those same questions that I’d
ask at the workshop if that’s agreeable with the Mayor and the rest of the Council, I’d like to see that done.
deWeerd: I, since Mr. Nichols had mentioned the finance director, and then missed last week’s meeting. What is the timeline on that?
Nichols: Councilwoman deWeerd, Mayor, members of the Council, the Mayor and I met last week, and I have the description. I have the Mayor’s comments. I am to prepare a draft ordinance
and then get that to you as quickly as I can. I had hoped to piggy back off of Nampa’s, but Nampa does not create the position by Ordinance. So I’m going to have to create one. So
I’ll – it’s on the top of my agenda to create that.
deWeerd: So we might get a draft?
Nichols: I doubt you’re going to have a draft by the 25th. That’s –
deWeerd: May 2nd for comment and maybe the next?
Nichols: I would shoot for May 2nd to get it to you even though it wouldn’t be on the agenda. Try to get a draft. The process that I anticipated was that I’d prepare a draft as I
understood our meeting which you were involved. Prepare the draft, review the draft with the Mayor and then if he’s got some comments, revisions, we’d bring that revised one back to
you is what we anticipate in doing.
deWeerd: So May 2nd we’ll see it?
Nichols: That’s my goal.
deWeerd: Okay. So I’ll be expecting it May 2nd.
Corrie: Anything else? Okay. So I’ll entertain a motion to adjourn.
Bird: So moved.
McCandless: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSENT
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:37 P.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVED:
ROBERT D. CORRIE, MAYOR
ATTEST:
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., CITY CLERK