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De Weerd: Well, at this point, this is better than what we have, which was
nothing and they were doing even interpretation at that time.
Anderson: Well, I agree. It's better than what we have, yes.
Corrie: Question been called for. Mr. Berg, if you'll do roll -call, please.
Roll -call: De Weerd, aye; Anderson, naye; McCandless, aye; Bird, aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE NAYE.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mrs. de Weerd.
De Weerd: I would just like to thank Brad and extend the thanks for the rest of
the committee. I know there's been a lot of time into this one, too. These were
two really time consuming ordinances, so I appreciate staff and everything they
did.
Item 5. Public Hearing: The Lakes at Cherry Lane No. 8 Land Swap:
Corrie: 1 can understand Ron's concern here, but we've gone through two public
hearings now and everybody had a chance to talk. We could drag this thing out
like Florida is doing right now. Not to be facetious, but we need to get along. I
think we've got a fairly good ordinance here. If we've got some mistakes, we'll
find out about it. Item No. 5 is a public hearing for the Lakes at Cherry Lane
Land Swap. At this time, I will open the public hearing and staff comments.
De Weerd: Mr. Mayor, I would like to excuse myself from this item, please.
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. It's not typically my job to present
anything as a staff report, so please forgive me. The Council has already
entertained an agreement to enter into a proposed change of land with Steiner
Development Corporation and Mr. Bradbury is here and can describe the
properties involved. The appraisals have been done of the respected parcels
and the proposal from Steiner trades dollar for dollar and value for value on these
parcels, but the statute requires that any time City land is exchanged or sold, that
a public hearing has to be scheduled for public input on the issue. It's essentially
some property which the City now owns that is next to the golf course, which is
not usable by the golf course. It can be exchanged for a piece of property that
would be available to the golf course and also the developer would supply the
pipe for some tiling of the — I believe it's the eight mile lateral that goes through
there with the work to be done by Nampa / Meridian as part of their work, but it's
a dollar for dollar exchange. That's really all I have. Mr. Bradbury is here on
behalf of Steiner Development.
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Corrie: Mr. Bradbury, I'm glad to see you're here in Meridian and not in Florida. I
had to get that in. I'm sorry.
Bradbury: The fees they're likely to be charging, maybe I wish I was in Florida.
Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, I'm Steve Bradbury. My office address
is 225 North 9th in Boise. I represent Steiner Development — one of the two
parties to the proposed exchange. As Mr. Nichols has explained, one of the
duties of the Council is to hold a public hearing on the proposed exchange
agreement. You'll recall that last month, in October, you adopted the exchange
agreement that was presented to you. What I wanted to do just very briefly is to
provide you with the background and answer any questions that you may have.
You can see on the screen a map of the area of the exchange parcels and what I
guess I will tell you — the way I will describe it is that the parcels to be exchanged
from the City to Steiner Development are those two parcels — one that's marked
in the orange and the other that's marked in the yellow. Then the property that
would be exchanged from Steiner Development to the City is the one with the red
dot on it. These are all, of course, in the vicinity of the proposed Lakes at Cherry
Lane No. 8 Subdivision, which I understand, by the way was recorded today.
There was an appraisal — appraisals of the three parcels were prepared last
summer, I believe it was. Your staff has copies of those appraisals and I don't
know if you have actually seen them or not. What I did is I made copies of the
last page — the summary page of the appraisals so that she'd get an idea of the
dollar amounts that are involved. I'll hand those to the Mayor. The result of the
appraisal was to find that the parcels to be exchanged to Steiner from the City —
that worked in total. The two together were valued at $10,476. The parcel to be
exchanged to Steiner from the City was valued at $2,835, so that leaves about a
$7,600 difference. To make up the difference, Steiner Development offered to
provide to the City 152 feet of 48 -inch concrete pipe that would be delivered at a
location designated by the City and unloaded. It could be used by the City then
to bury the — a portion of the eight mile lateral in the vicinity of the golf course.
Essentially, wherever the City found that it would do the most good. In order to
come to determine whether or not that would be an equal value, Steiner
Development got a bid from a supplier. I'll hand that to you as well. The way that
was calculated, based upon the bid to deliver and unload the pipe, it was $51.35
per foot of pipe at 152 feet. It comes out to a little over $7,800. That then is
about $200 more than the difference in value of the property so the City gets just
a slight benefit in the values of the property and the pipe combined. As Mr.
Nichols has indicated, the values then are equalized as is required under the
statute. I might just point out why we're — part of the reason why we're going to
all the trouble here. The properties that are to be exchanged to Steiner
Development and that are presently owned by the City and used as a part of the
golf course are really not particularly usable for the golf course. The parcel that's
marked with the yellow dot is in between the proposed lots that are owned by
Steiner Development and the eight -mile lateral. It's just too narrow to be of any
particular use to the golf course, at least as I understand it. The parcel that is
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marked with the orange dot is about a 20 -foot wide strip of land and if you — we
don't have it on the drawing here, but the lots that are directly to the east of the
proposed — of this Lakes at Cherry Lane 8 Subdivision, the backs of those lots all
extend about 20 feet further out than do the lots in No. 8. What you end up with
is you end up with about a 20 -foot jog. By swapping that land into Steiner
Development, you straighten out the —
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Bradbury: -- out of the equation then is the parcel that would be conveyed to the
City and it's my understanding that that has been piped. Is that right? Do you
know? It's my understanding that it has been or could be piped and then could
be used as part of the — it's adjacent to and could be used as part of the golf
course clubhouse area and incorporated into those uses. The idea here is that
both parties have an opportunity to make a little bit better use of the lands that
the other party happens to own. With that, I'd be happy to answer any questions
that you may have and of course, I'd urge the adoption of the ordinance, which I
understand is before you tonight.
Corrie: I guess my question would be to the attorney right now. Is Ward's
participation been taken care of because they had an interest in this if something
happened to the golf course. Is that taken care of?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. The exchange is contingent upon
receiving consent from Western Ada and I don't believe that we've actually
requested that formal consent yet, but I don't anticipate that it's a problem
because it simply squares up some lines and they actually have the interest in
the golf course itself, and so it's adding to that particular property. But it would
be something that we would do as part of this exchange.
Corrie: Any questions for Steve?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Thank you, Steve. Is there anyone else from the audience that would
like to issue testimony on this? Hearing none. Any questions on the Council to
anybody? I entertain a motion to close the public hearing.
Bird: So moved.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to close the public hearing. All those in
favor of the motion say aye.
MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSTAINED
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Corrie: Can we do the ordinance?
Nichols: Mr. Mayor, members of the Council. I don't know if I've actually got the
ordinance in front of you this evening. It's not on the — I didn't realize I was that
prepared.
Bird: We're ready to go. Can we pass it?
Nichols: But it wasn't on the Agenda, was it?
Corrie: That's the only thing. We — was it on the Agenda to do the ordinance?
Nichols: I don't see it on the Agenda. I just see the public hearing. We could
certainly schedule it for the fifth of December and have the first reading.
Corrie: Okay. I'll entertain a motion for that.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I move that we continue this adoption of the ordinance for the land
exchange until December 5, 2000 and at that time have the first reading.
Anderson: Second.
Corrie: Motion made and seconded to continue the adoption of the ordinance for
the meeting of December 5, 2000 for the first reading. Any further discussion?
Anderson: Mr. Mayor.
Corrie: Mr. Anderson.
Anderson: I just had a question of Bill. I was reading through here really quick.
Is there something in there that guarantees that the pipe has to be delivered and
it has to be unloaded? What about damage? I used to work with that and it's not
uncommon with that large of pipe that if that gets dropped too hard, it can
damage it. Is there something in our agreement that guarantees it's got to be in
good condition after it's unloaded?
Nichols: Councilman Anderson, Mayor, members of the Council. It's my
understanding that that — in order to be the appropriate value, it has to be good
pipe. It can't be broken pipe. So yes. I would say that it's in there.
Corrie: All those in favor of the motion say aye.
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MOTION CARRIED: THREE AYES, ONE ABSTAINED.
Item 6. FP 00-019 Request for Final Plat approval of 3 building lots on
approximately 5 acres by Bill Cafarelli for Cafarelli Subdivision
currently in an I -L zone — north side of Franklin Road and west of
Linder Road:
Corrie: The next item is the request for Final Plat approval — 00-019 for the
Cafarelli Subdivision currently in an I -L zone — north side of Franklin Road and
west of Linder Road. Staff comments.
Stiles: Mr. Mayor and Council, this is for a three -lot subdivision located in an
industrial zone that's west of Linder Road on Franklin Road. We have submitted
our comments dated November 20th. The applicant's representative has
responded. Just for clarification, a couple of issues. They did submit a revised
landscape plan today. However, that plan is not approved and I have specifically
talked to the owner of the property as to what we need to do and we believe we
can work out that issue prior to signature on the Final Plat. You probably have
copies of that landscape plan and some of the issues were that the fencing is
shown in the center of the eight -mile lateral and they also have extensive
landscaping that's within that eight -mile lateral easement. All we were asking for
was just the landscape corridor along Franklin Road and that each of the lots as
they developed would be responsible for their own landscaping in accordance
with the Landscape Ordinance. We will work with the applicant on that. They
have submitted a revised plan of their covenants. I'm not sure if the attorney has
had the opportunity to look at these covenants. Note on page 6 of what they've
submitted, I still had a little question about they've got a minimum lot depth of
12.8 feet and I'm not really sure where that came from. The minimum building
flanking street setback in that zone would be 30 feet, so as long as they can
revise that to comply with our current ordinance, we have no objections to
approval of the Final Plat and would recommend approval with staff conditions.
Corrie: Is the representative, Mr. Cafarelli here? Do you have any difference in
opinion?
Cafarelli: No. We would agree with what Mrs. Stiles has said.
Corrie: Okay. Thank you. Council, any questions?
Bird: I have none.
Corrie: Thank you. With that in mind, I'll entertain a motion on the Final Plat
approval.
Bird: Mr. Mayor.
NOTICE OF HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN pursuant to the Ordinances of the City of Meridian
and the Laws of the State of Idaho, that the City Council of the City of Meridian will hold
a public hearing at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho Street, Meridian, Idaho, at the
hour of 7:30 p.m. on November 21, 2000, for the purpose of reviewing and considering
the property exchange between The Lakes at Cherry Lane No. 8 and the City of
Meridian.
A more particular description of the above is on file in the City Clerk's office at
Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho Street, and is available for inspection during regular
business hours.
A copy of the application is available upon request. Any and all interested
persons shall be heard at said public hearing and the public is welcome and invited to
submit testimony.
DATED this October 30, 2000
PUBLISH November 3"d and 17th, 2000.
WILLIAM G. BERG, JR. CLERK
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Based upon the physical inspection of the subject property and the information
provided, subject to the Assumptions and Limiting Conditions set forth as of August
9, 2000, the market value of the Fee Simple Estate of the subject property is:
Value Calculations: Parcel A
Site Size 0.14 acres Q $27,000 = 33,780
Less Easement:
@ 25% 32,835
INDICATED VALUE OF PARCEL A.................................................................................. $2,835
Value Calculations: Parcel B
Site Size 0.1I acres Q $27,000 = $2,970
INDICATED VALUE OF PARCEL B....................................»............»............................... $2,970
Value Calculations: Parcel C
Site Size 0.278 acres 4 $27,000 = $7,506
INDICATED VALUE OF PARCEL C...............::................................................»».............. $7,506
I trust you will find the information contained in the report relevant to your
decisions regarding the subject property. Should you have any questions regarding
this report, or if I may be of further service to you on future projects, please contact
me at your convenience.
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XlIdaho Statutes
TITLE 50
MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS
CHAPTER 14
CONVEYANCE OF PROPERTY
50-1403. ORDINANCES -- NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING. Real property belonging
to a city shall not be sold, conveyed or exchanged except by ordinance duly
passed expressing an intent to sell, convey or exchange, nor until public
hearing is held before the city council. The ordinance expressing an intent
to sell, convey or exchange real property shall specifically describe the
property to be sold, conveyed or exchanged. No sale, conveyance or exchange
of real property as set forth in said ordinance shall occur until sixty
(60) days have expired from the date of passage of said ordinance. If a
petition expressing dissatisfaction with said sale, conveyance or exchange
of real property, containing the names of qualified electors of the city in
a number equal to ten percent (10%) of the total votes cast for mayor at
the preceding city election, is filed with the city clerk during said sixty
;60) days, the city council shall cause a special election to be held on
the question of whether or not the real property shall be sold, conveyed or
exchanged. If a majority of the qualified electors voting on the question
are in favor, the real property may be sold, conveyed or exchanged. If a
majority of the qualified electors voting on the question are not in favor,
the real property may not be sold, conveyed or exchanged, and the city
council may not again propose to sell the same property for at least six
(6) months following the date of the special election.
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