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AGENDA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11, 1994 - 7:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 13,1994:
(APPROVED)
TABLED AT SEPTEMBER 13, 1994 MEETING: ANNEXATION AND ZONING
REQUEST FOR PNE/EDMONDS CONSTRUCTION: (CITY ATTORNEY
TO PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
2. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR REZONE REQUEST
BY TREASURE VALLEY WORSHIP CENTER: (APPROVE FINDINGS
OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
3. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST BY TREASURE VALLEY WORSHIP CENTER:
(COMBINED WITH ITEM #2)
4. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR ACCESSORY USE
PERMIT FOR A FAMILY DAY CARE BY JUDITH SCHANCE:
(APPROVE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW;
APPROVE ACCESSORY USE PERMIT)
5. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST BY WEST ONE BANK: (APPROVE FINDINGS OF
FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
6. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST FOR ASHFORD GREENS SUBDIVISION BY
BRIGHTON CORPORATION: (TABLE UNTIL NOVEMBER 9, 1994)
7. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR ANNEXATION AND
ZONING REQUEST WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR RAVEN HILL
SUBDIVISION BY ALLAN CHANDLER: (APPROVE FINDINGS OF FACT
AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
8. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT
FOR BEDELCO BUSINESS AND LIVING CENTER BY BEDELCO, INC
(CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FINDNGS OF FACT AND
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
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9. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR LAYNE
INDUSTRIAL PARK SUBDIVISION BY LAYNE OF IDAHO:
(RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL)
10. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PACKARD SUBDIVISION BY PNE/
EDMONDS CONSTRUCTION: (CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
11. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GREENHAVEN ESTATES BY THE
DEVELOPMENT COMPANY: (CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
12. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE BY DIANE AND ROBERT LANG:
(CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT AND
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
13. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
TACO BELL RESTAURANT BY JONATHAN GIBBS: (CITY
ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
OF LAW)
14. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
D & B SUPPLY BY NEB -i COMPANY: (CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE
AMENDED FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
15. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR DANBURY FAIR SUBDMSION 5, 6 AND 7
BY B.W. INC.: (CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT
AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
16. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GROVE RUN SUBDIVISION BY JLG
BUILDERS: (CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE FINDINGS OF FACT
AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW)
17. DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENT TO ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT
ORDINANCE:
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AGENDA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11, 1994 - 7:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
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2. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR REZONE REQUEST
BY TREASURE VALLEY WORSHIP CENTER:
3. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST BY TREASURE VALLEY WORSHIP CENTER:
4. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR ACCESSORY USE
PERMIT FOR A FAMILY DAY CARE BY JUDITH SCHANCE:
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6. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST FOR ASHFORD GREENS SUBDIVISION BY
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7. FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR ANNEXATION AND
ZONING REQUEST WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR RAVEN HILL
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6. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT
FOR BEDELCO BUSINESS AND LIVING CENTER BY BEDELCO, INC.:
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9. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR LAYNE
INDUSTRIAL PARK SUBDIVISION BY LAYNE OF IDAHO:
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10. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
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EDMONDS CONSTRUCTION:
11. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GREENHAVEN ESTATES BY THE
DEVELOPMENT COMPANY:
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12. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE BY DIANE AND ROBERT LANG:
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13. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
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14. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
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15. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR DANBURY FAIR SUBDIVISION 5, 6 AND 7
BY B.W. INC.:
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16. PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GROVE RUN SUBDIVISION BY JLG
BUILDERS:
17. DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENT TO ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT
ORDINANCE:
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The regular meeting of the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission was called to order
by Chairman Jim Johnson at 7:30 P.M.:
MEMBERS PRESENT: TED HEPPER, CHARLIE ROUNTREE, JIM SHEARER:
MEMBERS ABSENT: MOE ALIDJANI:
OTHERS PRESENT: Will Berg, Wayne Crookston, Gary Smith, Shari Stiles, Roen
Wilson, John Sanford, Robert Webber, Helen Sharp, Dale Sharp, Eric Anderson, Scott
Dixon, Thom and Barbara Myatt, Pat Sandford, Carl Rosson, R.W. Peckenschneider, Opal
Harrington, Floyd and Kathy Reichert, Melinda Harper, C.R. and Linda Powell, Layne and
Tina Merits, Dwayne Ward, Gloria and Richard Fern, Paul McKague, Douglas Mellor,
Ranae Mellor, Mary Brockway, Dennis Brockway, Jon Barnes, Chris Williams, Jack Sweet,
Wayne S. Forrey, Vern Alleman, Ron Thurber, Kathleen Coulter, Jim McGarvin, Dick
Schraudt, Don Sweet, Steve Jensen, Scott Stewart, Ted Hutchinson, Stephanie
Churchman, Gary Lee, William Ball, Burt Borrup, Don Brian, Joe Simunich, Tom Zabala,
Tom Miles, Dan Torfin, Bernadine Morgan, Dennis Baker, Joe Glaiser, David Baley, Jay
Jones, Kim Daniel:
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING HELD SEPTEMBER 13,1994:
Johnson: Are there any correction, additions or deletions to these minutes?
Rountree: I have a spelling correction on Page 11, second to the last line, last word,
creative spelling of pneumatic, other than that.
Johnson: Any other corrections or deletions or additions, if not I will entertain a motion
please.
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I move we approve the minutes of the previous meeting.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: It has been moved and seconded to approve the minutes as written with the one
correction, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #1: TABLED AT SEPTEMBER 13, 1994 MEETING: ANNEXATION AND ZONING
REQUEST FOR PNE/EDMONDS CONSTRUCTION:
Johnson: Is there a representative that would like to come forward and address the
Commission at this time, please do so.
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Ted Hutchinson, 109 South Fort Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Hutchinson: Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission, at your last meeting when this
application was heard the Commission members wanted to see a preliminary design for
what we have proposed as far as the development on the Brown property. We have put
together a preliminary sketch which includes, this is the Brown property right here. I
believe our client is also in the process of negotiating with Mr. Reichert for picking up the
additional parcel right here. So we are planning for this entire parcel. Mr. Borrup who also
testified at the last meeting, his property is right here, it comes down and then abuts the
Packard property which is coming before you tonight. But we are proposing this as a
preliminary layout. We will do this in phases because of the access issues that are
involved. The Highway District has a limitation of up to 40 units if it is only going to have
one access, and presently the only access we have availability to is this one out of
Chamberlain Estates. If Packard is approved it would provide an access to the south. We
are providing for stub streets to future developments to the east. Also, recognizing Mr.
Alleman's requirements and agreement that we provide sewer or so that we can access
sewer along the north slough we are also providing a future stub to the west which would
also enter Chamberlain Estates at this point. We are also providing for the possibility of
a stub street directly north to Ustick Road. When we submit this it would be for a
preliminary plat, we have a few things to work out yet in regard to this particular plat, but
then it will be submitted to you in that form. Are there any questions from the Commission?
Hepper: Where is the end of Wingate Lane?
Hutchinson: Wingate Lane is a series of easements which goes from Ustick Road and it
also provides service to Sharp's down on the south end. It is our proposal that our part
of the property would develop on our part of the easement at this point. There is a 15 foot
easement, the Borup's, Reichert's and Sharp's would all have access to public streets
through this development so technically it would be shutting off of Wingate at that point.
Hepper: (Inaudible)
Hutchinson: In taking into consideration those persons who commented last time we don't
want any access to that. If those people who are involved with the easement are
agreeable and we are providing public street access then it would be our preference to
shut it off.
Hepper: Have you contacted any of those people to see if they are agreeable to that?
Hutchinson: We haven't yet, we are still in the preliminary stage, but recognizing those
folks who want no access we are trying to work that out the best we can.
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Hepper: (Inaudible)
Johnson: Any other questions of Mr. Hutchinson? Thank you. What is your pleasure?
Shearer: I move we have the attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law on
this project.
Hepper: Second
Johnson: 1 have a motion and a second to have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact
and conclusions of law, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #2: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR REZONE REQUEST
BY TREASURE VALLEY WORSHIP CENTER:
Johnson: Is there any discussion regarding the findings of fact as prepared by the City
Attorney? I will entertain a motion.
Hepper: Mr. Chairman, I move the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of
Meridian hereby adopts and approves these findings of fact and conclusions.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: Its moved and seconded that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions
of law as prepared, roll call vote.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Happier - Yea, Rountree - Did not Vote, Shearer - Yea, Alidjani -
Absent, Johnson - Yea (tie breaker)
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Johnson: Is there any recommendation you wish to pass on to the City Council?
Hepper: Mr. Chairman, I move the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission hereby
recommend to the City Council that the rezone and conditional use permit requested by
the applicant for the property described in the application be approved with the conditions
set forth in these findings of fact and conclusions of law and that the property be required
to meet the water and sewer requirements, the fire and life safety codes and the Uniform
Building Code and other ordinances of the City of Meridian including all parking areas
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shall be paved and the fence ordinance shall be met. The conditional use permit shall be
subject to annual periodic review upon motion by the City and all children should be
dropped off and picked up from the parking area of the property. The play area for the
children must be fenced at a high preventing any children entering (inaudible).
Shearer: Second
Johnson: It is moved and seconded that we pass a recommendation onto the City Council
as stated, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #3: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST BY TREASURE VALLEY WORSHIP CENTER: COMBINED WITH
ITEM #2:
ITEM #4: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR ACCESSORY USE
PERMIT FOR A FAMILY DAY CARE BY JUDITH SCHANCE:
Johnson: Any discussion regarding these findings of fact and conclusions of law?
Hepper: I have a question on page 2, item #9, it states that the hours of operation will be
from 6 A.M. from 5 P.M. 1 think that needs to be to 6 P.M. to give people a chance to get
off work and enough time to pick up their children.
Johnson: What did the testimony say, does anyone recall?
Rountree: My recollection is until 5 o'clock.
Hepper: (Inaudible)
Johnson: Any other discussion? A motion for approval then.
Hepper: Mr. Chairman, I move the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby
adopts and approves these findings of fact and conclusions with the stipulation that the
5 P.M. time be changed to 6 P.M.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: It is moved and seconded that we approve the findings of fact and conclusions
of law as prepared with the one change, altering #9 on page 2 to 6 P.M., roll call vote.
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ROLL CALL VOTE: Hepper - Yea, Rountree - Yea, Shearer - Yea, Alidjani - Absent
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Johnson: Any recommendation to the City Council?
Hepper: Mr. Chairman, I move the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission hereby
approves the accessory use permit requested by the applicant for the property described
in the application with the conditions set forth in the findings of fact and conclusions of law
which specifically include the requirements and conditions sited in the conclusions of law
#5, 6 and 9 set forth above and that the property be required to meet the water and sewer
requirements, fire and life safety codes and uniform building code and other ordinances
of the City of Meridian. The accessory use shall be subject to annual review upon notice
to the applicant by the City.
Rountree: Second
Johnson: Moved and seconded that we approve a favorable recommendation, all those
in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #5: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST BY WEST ONE BANK:
Johnson: Any discussion regarding these findings of fact and conclusions of law?
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, 1 move that the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission
hereby adopts and approves these findings of fact and conclusions.
Hepper: Second
Johnson: Moved and seconded to approve the findings of fact and conclusions, roll call
vote.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Hepper - Yea, Rountree - Yea, Shearer - Yea, Alidjani - Absent
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Johnson: A recommendation to the City Council.
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Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I move the Meridian Planning & Zoning Commission hereby
recommends to the City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the Conditional
use permit requested by the applicant for the property described in the application with the
conditions set forth in the findings of fact and conclusions of law.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: It is moved and seconded to pass a favorable recommendation onto the City
Council, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #6: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT REQUEST FOR ASHFORD GREENS SUBDIVISION BY BRIGHTON
CORPORATION:
Johnson: Any discussion regarding the findings of fact?
Hepper: Mr. Chairman, we have a couple typos on this on page 4, item #10, the second
word should say the (inaudible) should be that many of the blocks on Cherry Lane Village.
There is another one just 2 lines above that on item #9, it should be that he had no
comments. We have one other one back here on the last page on page 10, halfway
through item 9, the Commission hereby finds and concludes that it does not have
sufficient, it should have the word have. That is it.
Johnson: Any further discussion? We need a motion then please.
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I move the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby
decides that the matter should be tabled until additional information as noted in the
findings and conclusions of law is provided by the applicant to the Commission and other
information requested by the Commission and City staff.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: It is moved and seconded that this item be tabled in accordance with the
findings of fact and conclusions of law.
(Discussion Inaudible)
Johnson: We have to vote on the findings, roll call vote.
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ROLL CALL VOTE: Hepper - Yea, Rountree - Yea, Shearer - Yea, Alidjani - Absent
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #7: FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW FOR ANNEXATION AND
ZONING REQUEST WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR RAVEN HILL SUBDIVISION BY
ALLAN CHANDLER:
Johnson: Any discussion regarding these findings of fact?
Hepper: There is another typo on page 2 and item #3, the fourth line down where it says
the sewer and water will come from Locust Grove Road it says seep enough it should say
deep enough to go under the Nine Mile Drain.
Johnson: Any further discussion? We need a motion.
Shearer: Mr. Chairman, I move the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby
adopts and approves these findings of fact and conclusions of law.
Rountree: Second
Johnson: We have a motion and a second to approve these findings of fact and
conclusions of law, roll call vote.
ROLL CALL VOTE: Hepper - Yea, Rountree - Yea, Shearer - Yea, Alidjani - Absent
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Johnson: Recommendation for the City Council.
Shearer: Mr. Chairman, 1 move the Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby
recommends to the City Council of the City of Meridian that the property be annexed and
zoned as requested and the applicant meets the conditions set forth in these findings of
fact and conclusions of law. Specifically including the adoption of a homeowners
association with mandatory dues, that the applicant and owner are specifically required
to tile all ditches and canals, waterways and install a pressurized irrigation system as
condition of the annexation. And that the applicant meet all of the ordinances of the City
of Meridian specifically including the development time requirements and enter into the
required development agreement and that if the conditions are not met that the property
not be annexed or if these conditions are not met that the land be de -annexed that no
annexation ordinance shall be prepared or adopted until the applicant submits a
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development agreement referenced above.
Rountree: Second
Johnson: It has been moved and seconded to pass the decision on as stated, all those
in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I move that we pass a favorable recommendation on the
preliminary plat to the City Council.
Hepper: Second
Johnson: It has been moved and seconded that we pass a favorable recommendation on
the preliminary plat to the City Council, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #8: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAT
FOR BEDELCO BUSINESS AND LIVING CENTER BY BEDELCO, INC.:
Johnson: I will now open a public hearing, if there is a representative for the applicant or
the applicant will you please come forward and address the Commission at this time.
Wayne Forrey, 52 East Franklin Road, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Forrey: Mr. Chairman and members of the Planning and Zoning Commission I am here
tonight representing Bedelco and helping them develop a quality business park and
affordable housing project in Meridian, which is just absolutely essential to the community.
I have some handouts that I would like to give to each of the Commission members and
then I will be going through a concise slide presentation. The public will see the same
material 1 will have it on the slides. Let me give you first a little background of Bedelco.
The business is owned by Burt Smith and Ed Bews, they like to be referred to as Ed and
Burt. They have done developing for well over 30 years in the treasure valley. Burt is a
native of Council and Ed grew up in Eagle, their first project was down along Boise State
University. The homes that they built about 35 years ago are now being purchased or tom
down for expansion of BSU. They have built probably close to a 4th of the homes in the
Boise area in that 35 years of building and developing, a lot of it themselves. They have
been in the area for a long time and are committed to good projects, the built the Meridian
Manor project here in Meridian several years ago. The history on this site, they have
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owned it about 17 years and in 1979 this 55 acre parcel was annexed into the City of
Meridian as industrial. In 1979 there was general feeling that property that was large next
to a railroad would be very good for industrial development. And ever since 1979 they
have been trying to sell that property in parcels, large parcels, thinking that was
appropriate. But the market has changed and Ed and Tom Wright are the co-owners of
the Treasure Valley Business Park which is at Eagle Road and Fairview. They are dealing
on a daily basis with businesses trying to get in to buy that ground or come into Meridian.
What they are hearing is that there are more and more requests for small business lots,
not the big parcels. Railroad is not as critical as it was thought to be in the late 79s and
even in the mid 80's. So, we set out to identify what would be good community
development for this ground given that there has been a change in the housing market,
there has been a change in the business and industrial market. Given that Meridian
wants to develop this property with some economic uses, all of that went into some
thinking so we set out to research what would be appropriate for this site. I want to walk
you through some of our thoughts and our research and our findings and some of the
ideas that helped shape this project. (Slide Presentation) I am standing taking a picture
here at the railroad tracks at Locust Grove Road looking north and west. The background
with that nice fence is the Maws Addition subdivision and all of this plowed ground in the
foreground of the picture is the Bedelco property. This is looking a little more west, the
trees there are part of Old Town that have crept out to, this actually was the old Schneider
Farm that Ed and Burt bought from them about 17 years ago. Some of you might
recognize the outbuilding there and the hay and trees and the silo, the trees would stay
in this project but those other structures would come down. That is all on the Bedelco
property but just north of that haystack is the Collins property, Mr. and Mrs. Collins own
this property. You will notice on the plat, the plat goes around that property, this is not part
of the project. Old Town is creeping right up to the edge of the Bedelco property, this is
Idaho Street looking west or East towards Bedelco. That is another thing we considered
was the arrangement of streets, given Old Town and the grid pattern in this part of the
City. And out along Pine and I am looking East about where that truck is that you see is
where the Bedelco property starts so on the west edge of Bedelco is some very good
affordable housing and we took that into consideration what type of housing is in the area,
what type of buffers would be necessary, what type of business lots would be needed to
meet the market demand. We looked at the permitted uses that are allowed today in the
industrial zone I met with property owners out there. We discussed some of these things
and a lot of folks out there said we would prefer not to have some of those uses on that
property, particularly those in the Maws Subdivision are concerned about what might
develop across the street. So we took that into consideration, we did a quality of life
survey and the number 1 response that we got when we asked people to define what is
quality of life in Meridian was jobs. The second thing was housing, and the third was
safety. So we factored that into this project as well. We spent a lot of time looking at
Boise because Boise is blessed with a lot of small business and Meridian is trying to do
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the same thing and establish identity and attract business. And Tim Hogland the Building
official in Boise says we just can't compete with Meridian on price. This property has been
in ownership now for 17 years, so there is a wonderful opportunity for Bedelco because
they have owned this so long. Here is a project where the affordability is a real factor both
on the business lots and on the affordable house lots. So we can compete against Boise
or Nampa in Canyon County. We looked at your Comprehensive Plan, and there are a lot
of goals and policies that have shaped this project. The housing goal is about quality and
affordable housing in all neighborhoods. Balanced land uses, recognizing that housing
is a critical component of economic development. Even economic development policies
about helping small businesses expand and also identifying and removing constraints to
small business development and we did identify one and I will talk about that. Other goals
talk about having housing for all income groups in the community, all neighborhoods and
having housing next to employment centers. This is one of the things that we quickly
realize would not work here. This was an article in the Statesman recently about why we
build the way we do, the large homes and the 2 income families, the R-4 type development
that occurs in Meridian. There is quite an inventory out there of R-4 subdivisions and lots
and homes, but our research confirms what we have been reading in the paper and that
is the senior citizens are not being addressed, their housing needs are not being
addressed. And start up families, newlyweds, young families, there is a tremendous need
in Meridian for affordable housing. That led us to this layout right here. Now, one of the
things that we identified in our analysis was that business needed small lots, in our initial
layout of this subdivision we had 50 foot wide business lots fronting on Locust Grove. We
did that because in Boise today a small business person can get on Executive Drive which
is an extension of Pine Street and buy a 50 foot wide business lot. They are just stacked
right next to each other, unlimited access to Executive Drive. We wanted to have Meridian
on the same playing field and keep it level as with Boise. When we approached the
Highway District they said we can understand that small business needs access and they
want their own frontage on an arterial but we have changed our policy. And what was
developed in Boise maybe a month ago we have a new standard now. We made a change
and you will notice the change here, there are now proposed 7 clustered combined access
points. We are still working with the Highway District we are going to approach the
Commissioners, some of the staff feel that even these access points are too close to the
intersection of Locust Grove and Pine, but that design that you see there has been
approved and is developing right now in the City of Boise. So we want to make sure that
Meridian is as competitive in economic development as Boise is. So small business has
an equal opportunity to choose. One thing Meridian has over Boise is the lower land cost
and the affordable housing. The business people we spoke to said we have to have in
order to track employees we have to have affordable housing. There are a lot of folks
moving to Canyon County because of the affordable housing and their good economic
developing program over there. And this is a project we want to capture and not have
people going to Canyon County and want them to come to Meridian and start their
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business here and have affordable housing for employees. We extended Locust Grove
Road through the project at the request of the Highway District, we have a small park that
is based on the Comprehensive Plan standard of 5 acres per 1000 population. We also
have a lot of screening and buffering and half the project is in affordable housing and half
remains in industrial. The large parcel here on the east side of Locust Grove is owned by
Bedelco, but Meridian Energy has an option a current option that has not expired and if
it does expire and Meridian Energy does not buy that ground Ed and Burt will be right back
in wanting to subdivide that big piece into small lots again to meet that market. But with
that active option they have to see what Meridian Energy does. Okay, in terms of land use
intensity that entire site is zoned industrial, it is recognized the most intense land use, we
actually want to take half of that property and put it into a lower intense, the single family
detached, that is a plus for the neighborhood. We are doing that partly because of
affordable housing need but also because of compatibility with that neighborhood that
area. There has to be a buffer in that area between Industrial and residential, this is a
project that will do that. Now, manufactured housing and that is the focus here of the
affordable housing, in our application we indicated that A - a home could be purchased in
that subdivision between $73,000 to $77,000 and that is a good price. A lot of folks need
housing at that level. This happens to be out on the freeway by the Meridian Interchange,
some of you might recognize the dealership out there. This is just one of the homes, a
typical type home that would come into the project. However this home does not have a
garage and there will be a double car garage constructed in every one of these lots.
These homes, some of them are very nice, they have bay windows, they have some inset
entrances, corners can very attractive, these again are all out on the freeway. A lot of
them already have a door ready to attach a garage. This is a home directly across the
street from Bedelco on Pine, it is a very nice looking home, it is affordable. It has a
detached garage and so in this project there may be detached garages and they may be
attached depending on the builder and the homeowner what they want to do. Here is an
example just right acorss the street of a nice affordable home and a detached garage.
They will be on foundations, no question, it will be a foundation in fact this is a
manufactured home and the foundation was just completed and I snapped a photo of it.
These homes use less electricity which is a plus. It is a little hard to see with the lights on,
but this is Weathervane Village in Meridian at the opposite end of Pine by Pine and Linder
by the High school. This is, a portion of this project is manufactured housing, in that photo
was a young family with a child in the stroller and in this one is an elderly lady. I spoke
to her, she just sold that home for $70,000, she has a grandson or nephew there visiting,
but from her house this is the neighbors to the north, manufactured homes look very nice,
and the street section here is the same that Bedelco will develop, 50 foot right of way, 5
foot sidewalks with curb and gutter. Across the street in that culdesac in Weathervane
Village this is what you see, there are 3 manufactured homes. This in on the corner of
Idaho and NW 15th, that is a manufactured home with a carport. There will not be any
carports in this project, they will all be enclosed garages. And then as you come farther
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into the project, here we are at Broadway and 15th, that is a stick built home and you see
the fellow sweeping his driveway right above that red for sale sign, I spoke to him. He is
in a stick built home but the next ones to him are manufactured, they are very happy, they
get along well to the 2 types of housing. The manufactured housing tends to have an
older resident about 70% of the occupants are elderly, 30% are newlyweds or young
families or small families. Now this is a project by Boise, by Borah High School, we will
not develop like this, 1 am showing this as an example. This project has setbacks of about
10 feet and no sidewalks, it is a very narrow street and we will not do that. We will have
a setback typical of Maws Addition or any other subdivision in Meridian, but look at the
homes, these are the types of homes that would be in the Bedelco project that is a modular
home and it is very attractive. Another one there landscaped, some of these homes have
come from Treasure Valley Homes which is a very good dealer in Garden City, they sell
a lot of units and do a good job setting them up. Here again is another look at some
manufactured homes. And that looks like a regular stick built, it is a very nice type of
housing. Alright, some of the features, we have a storage area that would be operated
and maintained by the homeowners association and that is to prevent like the old car here
that is sitting off the driveway on the grass. It is always fun to fix up an old car but in order
to have a good quality project if we are going to provide space for trailers or old cars and
this happens to be an RV parking spot at that project by Borah High School. I can't say
this one would look exactly like that we anticipate actually more landscaping, but it would
be fenced and screened and look nice like that. We also propose that park, when I met
with neighbors they asked that instead of a formal park that it be left natural, Five Mile
Creek is right there and it is a nice area for wildlife and there is wildlife there now today.
And we do anticipate about 70% of the occupants to be senior citizens and we think that
might be a good thing to do is have a passive type private park there. That leads us to the
layout, everything we have looked at and analyzed is come into this layout and we
recognize it can get better, I hope tonight we will have some citizen comments and ideas.
We are open to suggestions. In summary I would ask that you would approve or
recommend approval of this project and not table it. We need to keep working with the
Highway District, I would prefer personally that Idaho Street go west, but when I met with
property owners they asked that Idaho Street not be extended. That is the Planning and
Zoning and City Council's call or the Highway District will do whatever in that regard. I
would ask also that you recognize that small business needs to have a small lot.
Subsidiaries of Micron and HP can afford bid parcels but small business can't, they need
small lots and they need access. We can accommodate with combined access. We want
to be as competitive as Boise is, and 1 would also ask that you add 3 conditions, 1 that
there be a development agreement, that is very appropriate here. Secondly that this
project would be subject to a development review and the third that you would require a
development compliance report. That is a report that 1 prepared on other projects for the
Meridian City Council and it would avoid the type of problem that occurred in Maws
Addition when a fence was built instead of a berm. We will make sure that everything gets
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done correctly with those conditions. I would be happy to answer questions.
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Forrey?
Hepper: Would those industrial lots along Locust Grove and Pine Street those would
industrial rather than commercial?
Forrey: Yes, the zoning would not change, they are zoned industrial now and they would
stay industrial.
Hepper: Do you anticipate any conflict there between industrial uses 24 hours a day
manufacturing noise, vibration, light, sound and all of that with a residential on the other
side of the fence?
Forrey: The types of, an alternative would be to zone it commercial, but that is really not
what the market is saying is needed. The types of businesses that have approached
Bedelco and Tom Wright in the Treasure Valley Business Park are really kind of small
manufacturing primarily indoors service businesses that want to put up a small building on
a smaller business lot so it is, we don't envision the heavy manufacturing or heavy all night
manufacturing uses at all. I hope that answers your question.
Hepper: That is one of them, you also have an R-15 zoning designation on that
subdivision, with the 65 foot lots why do you have R-15 instead of R-8?
Forrey: There are some 60 foot wide lots and we went to each of the mobile home
manufacturers, the dealers and one manufacturer in Fruitland or Payette and they say that
a 60 by 90 lot is workable for a majority of their models. And a 60 by 90 lot is not allowed
in the R-8 zone but it is in the R-15 that is why. Most of them are 65 by 100 but there are
some 60 by 90's.
Hepper: What would be the minimum house size?
Forrey: I think it is in our application at 900 square feet in addition a 2 car garage.
Hepper: That is all I have.
Rountree: Would you point out all 28 of the proposed industrial lots?
Forrey: Actually it is 13, with commenting from ACHD, let me point to them. The question
was to point out the industrial lots, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, this would remain
zoned industrial as well. This is the property that Meridian Energy has under option.
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Rountree: I asked that because the application identifies 28 business lots.
Forrey: It was 28 to start with and then the Highway District asked us to consider a little
larger lot with combined access, that is how it got to 13.
Rountree: Would Locust Grove be extended south?
Forrey: Well, it would be extended by Bedelco to the property line there next to the
railroad tracks. (End of Tape)
Rountree: What is happening in the northwest corner there, we have a peachy color on
this.
Forrey: Yes, that is an easement area, those 3 affected lots are very deep and that is
because there is quite a bit of irrigation stuff in there. There is diversion
Rountree: This is a diversion easement?
Forrey: Yes, that is not included as part of the building lot size that is why those lots are
big.
Rountree: You indicated in the proposed park area that it would be passive recreation and
relatively undeveloped, would you be putting in walking paths to accommodate to that type
of use?
Forrey: Yes, 2, it doesn't show up well on here, let me point them out. Actually 3 paths,
the Meridian Comprehensive Plan designates Five Mile Creek as a area for developed
pathway. So there will be a section of pathway developed here along the creek, there will
be a section of pathway developed here along Five Mile Creek, there will be a parking lot
developed here with a sidewalk that leads from the parking lot over to the pathway and the
Ada County Comprehensive Plan and the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, the Nampa
Comprehensive Plan and the Boise Comprehensive Plan all identify a pathway along the
railroad tracks from Nampa to Boise. And so that pathway would connect into that and if
the City of Meridian and Ada County want the pathway developed Bedelco is prepared to
develop that much of the pathway along the railroad.
Rountree: Thanks Wayne.
Johnson: Any further questions Charlie?
Rountree: I would just ask if you have seen the comments from the City Engineer or the
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City Planning Director?
Forrey: Yes
Rountree: Do you have any problems with those?
Forrey: No, except for the comment on tabling. 1 hope we can keep working on it and
make it better.
Rountree: That is all I have.
Johnson: Anyone else? Thank you Wayne, we will give you an opportunity to testify if we
get some opposition. This is a public hearing, anyone from the public that would like to
address the Commission?
Paul McKague, 933 East Pine, was sworn by the City Attorney.
McKague: See that Five Mile Creek that comes around there on the outside of the
property line there that is my property. I donT want people walking into this walkway or
whatever he has proposed there coming into my property. There is also a ditch that runs
along that fence line right there that belongs to Nampa Meridian that is on my property but
it is about 3 feet deep that is not going to be good for children to be around. That is about
all I have, I am opposed to anything that is going to bring people onto my property there.
The Five Mile Creek (inaudible) is on my property up where you see it straightens out
there and it goes on up to Pine. It is maybe 100 feet there that is not on my property.
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. McKague?
Hepper: Is that ditch that you mentioned is that on your property?
McKague: It is on my property, it belongs to Nampa Meridian but it is an open ditch. It
runs right down that yellow line right there.
Hepper: Is it right on the property line or is it inside?
McKague: It is inside on my side. It is not my ditch but it is still an open ditch.
Johnson: Thanks Paul, anyone else from the public?
Melinda Harper, 1004 N. Scrivner Way, was sworn by the City Attorney.
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Harper: I am a resident of Maws Addition Subdivision and I worked closely with Mr.
Forrey with our fiasco in the fence. I trust that Mr. Forrey is very sincere in his opinion of
this upcoming development. Of course living across the street and somewhat behind
ideally nothing would ever develop there and it would be open, but reality is that progress
is coming and any open field you see pretty soon will be developed it looks to be that way.
I do sincerely hope that when it comes to any sort of screening between their property and
where Maws begins that there will be some sort of screen to at least provide a visual as
well as a sound barrier. I just trust that it will be done and not overlooked as with ours
which became, it was a very difficult situation for everyone involved. It was very painful,
it was very long. I hope that the vegetation will provide some sort of barrier for us, I am
concerned I hope that there will be sewer, gutter, sidewalk, and the traffic is a concern for
me. I don't' know whether or not there will be some sort of stop sign but we do have
children who do play there and so I am concerned for safety for those involved. There is
also a walking group within the subdivision, we do like to walk and as it is getting darker,
another thing also is lighting I hope that whatever lighting is provided there it is not
offensive to the residents who do live there. I also do realize that the City does need to
have an additional income, there have been many plans for this property in the area and
it has been consistently shot down which has harmed the City of Meridian and residents
because we do as people who live here we do rely on taxes. I am excited for it I hope it
goes off well but I am also hoping that our needs are met as well. Thank you
Johnson: Anyone else from the public?
Opal Farrington, live across the street, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Farrington: I am opposed to it very much because we have enough houses down there
as it is. I would rather have industrial or commercial because the schools are all so
crowded they are right now having to bus a lot of them over to Lake Hazel. They don't
have room for them here in Meridian. And then besides when they develop I had one right
west of me and one east of me and they don't take care of their trash. We couldn't irrigate
at all, they don't come and pick it up, the wind blows it every place. I don't know
(inaudible) and we never got to irrigate last (Inaudible) and had the cops call the developer
and he wouldn't do anything about it. So, I think they should be taking care of all of their
trash and stuff that blows around. And then the traffic is real bad out there too, the streets
are narrow and there is lots of traffic by both developers there. So, I don't think we need
any more development. Thank you
Johnson: Thank you, is there anyone else that would like to testify on this application?
Stephanie Churchman, Builders Masonry Products, 1400 East Franklin Road, was sworn
by the City Attorney.
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Churchman: We are adjacent to the property, we are separated by the tracks and we are
an industrial property. It is Builders Masonry Products and 1 would just like to read a
statement from our company. Builders Masonry Products is always enthusiastic to see
development and new growth in the economy. However, we feel there are some very real
problems with rezoning an industrial property to a residential development. It will not only
be hazardous for us, but for the city and potential residents. As we have seen
documented nationally, when residential developments are constructed in an area
originally zoned for industrial use, there begins to be restrictions on the business. The
noise levels of the plant could be a problem for residents, putting our manufacturing plant
at a disadvantage due to time restrictions on production. With new neighborhoods, the
number of children will increase. This poses two potential problems. One is for the safety
of the children who may wander onto our property. The second is the potential problem
of more property damage and vandalism to our facility. For the reasons described above,
Builders Masonry Products position is to oppose the rezoning of this property for
residential purposes and to maintain this area as it was originally zoned. Basically what
we are saying is what you brought up that we have seen over and over again that when
you have residential housing come near a plant such as ours it is very disturbing to the
residents. Pretty soon we can only start up our trucks or only run our plant from 8 in the
morning until 5 or 6 at night. Currently we have been running 10 hour days and in the
summer we were so busy that we almost had to go into night shift. That is our main
concern as well as the safety, as the other owner said the children. There are many
hazards there and that is our position.
Johnson: Thank you very much, do you have a copy of that statement for the record,
thank you.
Rountree: Would you point out your location just for clarification?
Churchman: (Inaudible)
Johnson: Is there anyone else that would like to address the Commission now?
Helen Sharp, 2445 Wingate Lane, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Sharp: Well, I am not directly affected by this project but that doesn't seem to be the issue
here in Meridian anymore anyway. If anybody has ever lived in a residential house by an
industrial area they will vote no (inaudible). While it is not here it does cause problems
because we have seen it, the areas move in like the airport, they know the airport is there
they move there and then there are problems. And they have done that with every
business and I would like to see at least a little foresight instead of hindsight, thank you.
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Johnson: Is there anyone else?
Dwanye Ward, 4389 South Carbine, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Ward: I do represent Treasure Valley Homes which is a manufactured home dealership
as well as Garden Village which is in Nampa which is a division of Treasure Valley Homes.
We have an environmental setting at Garden Village which would give those who have
maybe some questions of how a house might look, a manufactured house might look on
a developed lot. We of course are much in favor of manufactured housing being placed
in residential neighborhoods and on property that can be purchased by the same individual
who has purchasing the home that they choose to live in. There has been some concern,
I have heard some concern about children, yes in all likely hood there will be some
children involved. My experience is in the last 7 or 8 years is that predominantly people
who are looking for individual lots somewhat similar to your Weathervane Village area that
is in Meridian are people that are empty nesters, getting ready to retire that type of thing.
Looking for a reason or a way to cut their housing cost once their incomes become fixed.
My guess is and I have no idea depending on what kind of amenities and what kind of
CC&R's are set up by the developer, that at least 60 to maybe greater than 60% of the
residents there will be retired and or semi -retired. Thank you.
Johnson: Thank you, anyone else? Would you like an opportunity to comment Wayne on
any of those subjects brought up by the people testifying?
Forrey: I would like to say thank you, 1 wrote down we have to be sensitive to Mr.
McKague and keep people off his property somehow. Good lighting was brought up my
Melinda Harper that is an excellent suggestion and those that walk in the safety. The trash
and the screening, Mrs. Farrington. We need to talk to Builders Masonry to see if there
is a way we can work something there to help their business expand and grow. I wrote
here that a little more foresight with Mrs. Sharp and so 1 would like to meet with her and
see if what we can do to make this an even better project. I would thank you and I have
some good ideas and we would like to keep moving forward and make it better. That is
it.
Johnson: Anyone else want one last shot? Seeing no one then I will close the public
hearing at this time. What is your pleasure gentlemen?
Rountree: Mr. Chairman 1 move that we have findings of fact and conclusions of law
prepared by the City Attorney.
Hepper: Second
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Johnson: We have a motion and a second to have findings of fact and conclusions of law
prepared by the City Attorney, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #9: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR LAYNE
INDUSTRIAL PARK SUBDIVISION BY LAYNE OF IDAHO:
Johnson: I will now open the public hearing, is there a representative for Layne Industrial
Park that would like to address the Commission at this time.
Gary Lee, 250 South Beechwood, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Lee: The request before you this evening is preliminary plat approval for a project known
as Layne Industrial Park Subdivision. This particular project is located on Locust Grove
Road about a 1/4 north of Franklin Road. It is just adjacent to the railroad tracks and
situated north of Locust Grove Industrial Park as it is today. The project consists of 18
industrial building lots on about 30 acres with a density of about 1.7 lots per acre. The
current zoning here is I -L which is Light Industrial zone. The minimum building lot size
shown on the preliminary plat is about 40,000 square feet, 200 by 200 squares is the
smallest lot. The structures and the uses on these planned industrial lots will comply with
the existing I -L zoning in the City of Meridian ordinances and will comply will all the
requirements for the code. There will be either a landscaped drainage lot as shown on the
preliminary plat or a public right of way disposal system for the storm drain systems. If
there is a common lot required and this will be determined at final design stage. A
business owners association will be formed to maintain those lots. The project has direct
access to Locust Grove Road, there are 2 stub streets planned to the north property line
for future expansion. As I mentioned earlier the project is adjoining existing railroad right
of way along its entire southern boundary. All the streets within the development will
comply with ACHD standards with the exception of sidewalks. And there will be a variance
request forthcoming for Council consideration at a later date. Sewer and water on this
development will be extensions of existing City services which are adjacent to the project.
Any irrigation ditches that are required to remain in service will be tiled. Pressure irrigation
is not planned at this time for this development and a variance will be requested at the
Council level. I had a chance to review the responses by City staff, from Shari Stiles the
Planning director we concur with her responses with the exception of the irrigation and
sidewalks which I mentioned we will be applying for the variance. And we will also sit
down with Ms. Stiles and discuss the pathway requirements as the Comprehensive Plan
addresses. I looked at Gary Smith's comments the City Engineer and concur with his
conclusions with the exception of item 16 and 17. The Ada County Highway District has
reviewed the preliminary plat and during that course of review they saw no reason for
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extension of spruce tree to the south boundary. In their planning there is no need for an
additional railroad crossing at that point. And we also discussed the existing private street
which lies to the east of this properly and ACHD had some recommendations on how that
intersection could be reconfigured to make it a better situation and we will comply with the
highway district requirements, I would be glad to answer any questions.
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Lee?
Rountree: What is the setback from centerline of Locust Grove Road, for right of way?
It doesn't show it.
Lee: It is currently, the right of way is situated 50 feet on adjoining properties. ACHD has
requested an additional 10 feet from what is shown on the preliminary plat, so the right of
way there will be 60 feet total width. The reason for that is they have some long range
plans to realign Locust Grove to the West and install a new railroad crossing and
eventually this particular crossing will be abandoned so they saw no need to have any
wider right of way through there.
Johnson: Any further questions? This is a public hearing, anyone from the public that
would like to address the Commission? Seeing no one then I will close the public hearing.
This is a preliminary plat.
Hepper: Mr. Chairman, I move that we recommend approval of the preliminary plat.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: It has been moved and seconded that we recommend approval of the
preliminary plat, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #10: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PACKARD SUBDIVISION BY PNE/EDMONDS
CONSTRUCTION:
Johnson: Is a representative for the applicant, would you please come forward and
address the Commission at this time.
Ted Hutchinson, 109 South Fort Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Hutchinson: Thank you Mr. Chairman and members of the Commission. This is an
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those will be common open space lots or landscape areas. The site is located north of the
Capital Christian Center which is on Fairview Avenue also north of Dove Meadows
Subdivision. We are west of the Kearney Subdivision and south of Carol Subdivision, we
are approximately 1/4 mile in from Eagle Road and 1/4 mile north of Fairview Avenue. The
site is not presently located in the city limits therefore the annexation request, the city limits
does abut the southern and western sites of this particular site. We are asking for an R-4
zoning designation for this site which is a low density residential district. The Meridian
Comprehensive Plan has identified this site as a mixed use or planned development area
for approximately half of it. That would be the southern half, with the north half designated
residential development. We are proposing simply to develop this entire parcel with single
family development. Lots within the development will meet or exceed the zoning ordinance
standard for R-4 development and we are including a 4.95 acres of common open space
which is principally about 4 and 3/4 acres of park land which is interconnected with some
open space. On the east and west ends as well as interconnecting for ease of access into
the park area for the lots of the development. The area surrounding this site contains a
mix of uses, however primarily it is residential use that is in transition from agricultural use.
The Capital Christian Center as I have indicated is south of this site and Dove Meadows
Subdivision, Wingate Place, Kearney Subdivision and CaroPs Subdivision also adjacent
to those site. Most of these have developed at R-8 or R -t residential development
standards. The agricultural land remains as relatively large parcels, we are proposing that
a homeowners association will maintain the common areas between this development.
The park is designed for the ready access of the residents of development, we are
proposing fences along the perimeter which will provide a buffer from the adjoining land
uses. We will also use a pressurized irrigation system as required by the zoning
ordinance. The lots in Carol subdivision which is to the north, this area up here, these are
acre lots and as we laid this out we tried to take into consideration those larger lots. So we
have got several, these are little over 13,000 square foot lots, there are 4 of them which
lie adjacent to Carol subdivision. We tried to place those so that the residences that are
on those lots will be adjacent to larger lots. As I stated about or little over 13,000 square
feet so that there is some transition for the smaller urban sized lots to what are called
estate lots in the county. There is also a ditch along in here, it is our understanding that
will need to be covered or fenced which provides additional buffering between the uses
their. We have tried to comply with all of the provisions of the zoning ordinance especially
the design and dimensional standards for the R-4 zone. The minimum lot size in this
development is 8,000 square feet, the minimum dwelling size excluding the garage will be
1400 square feet. Streets are designed for interconnection with adjacent land without
providing a high speed pass through traffic routes. As we laid this out we had several
conversations with the Ada County Highway District. 'Their chief concern was the location
for stub streets, this stub street is located in this position based on a highway district
requirement, they wanted that north of the center of the parcel. This is a large, agricultural
parcel with a great deal of frontage along Eagle Road as it extends clear to the comer at
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location for stub streets, this stub street is located in this position based on a highway
district requirement, they wanted that north of the center of the parcel. This is a large,
agricultural parcel with a great deal of frontage along Eagle Road as it extends clear to the
corner at Eagle and Fairview. So we are going to be providing the stub street to that
parcel in the event that it will develop probably at a more intense use than the residential
that we are proposing. Again we didn't want any the ability for any traffic to use this a
high speed cut through for when this develops or to get out to Fairview avenue or to the
north, they have to make several turns before they can pass through this development.
The streets will be built to Ada County Highway District standards, one of the comments
in your packet is that the Highway District has requested that this be tabled pending a
traffic study. That traffic study is under way, our traffic engineer has indicated he is very
close to completing that particular study and the results should be available before this
goes to the City Council. Due to the lack of intersecting streets from the exterior of this site
some of the blocks particularly the block along the South and along the east and again
along the north are longer than those recommended by the zoning ordinance. We have
in order to provide continuity to the pathway system in the park, this c uldesac is also a little
bit longer than that is recommended by the zoning ordinance. Due to the constraints that
are based in the parcel, based on the exterior of the parcel and our attempt to provide
some functional open space within this development we would ask that the commission
waive the maximum block length standard and the culdesac provision for this particular
development. Our proposal is offering the unique feature which is a very large park space,
the park is to be used for the enjoyment of the residents of the development. The park is
accessible from all parts of the subdivision. This will be a quality development that will
enhance the area. The Packard Subdivision includes several larger lots adjoining Carol
subdivision to provide a buffer against those larger lots. In summary we are seeking
approval of the annexation and zoning of this 39 acre parcel with a concurrent zone of R4
and approval of the preliminary plat for Packard Subdivision. There 136 lots, however 128
of those would be for residential development. Due to the location of the sewer system
that exists now, we will have to work out the provision of a temporary lift station to sewer
this particular project. that would connect back out into the I believe into Dove Meadows
Development. However we are as you are aware from the earlier application with the
Brown property and the ability to sewer that along the north slough as this area develops
there will be the ability to eventually connect this development with the north slough sewer
thus eliminating the need for a lift station and we are hoping that all of that will fall into
place in a good order. Keeping the necessity of a lift station at a very temporary basis.
We have reviewed the comments from the City Engineer and from your Planning staff. We
believe that we can comply with all of those requirements. We have what we believe to
be a quality project here and offering some much needed open space. I believe this would
exceed the Comprehensive Plan recommendation for park space given the size of the park
and the size of development. We therefore ask that you recommend approval of this
application to City Council. Are there any questions from the Commission?
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Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Hutchinson?
Rountree: What was the projected time line on the traffic study completion?
Hutchinson: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Rountree, I believe it should be less than 2
weeks to its completion.
Rountree: And that would be troth submitted to ACHD and the City?
Hutchinson: Yes it will.
Rountree: With just one access existing essentially today, how many lots would you be
able to develop in any one phase?
Hutchinson: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Rountree as before I believe 40 lots would be
the maximum allowed by the Highway District in any one phase if you have one way in and
one way out. I believe this is now interconnected through to Locust Grove as well as we
will complete the connection from here down to Fairview Avenue. This will be phased, we
are hoping to have it phased. I believe we are looking at a phasing of an east side and
a west side with the west side developing first through the provision of the sewer
requirements.
Hepper: You have some bigger lots there on the north end there adjacent to the 1 acre
lots in the adjacent subdivision there, the minimum house size is 1400 square feet, in past
experiences we had subdivisions backing up to bigger subdivisions they put the adjacent
houses at a little bit bigger footage, would you be willing to maybe increase the footage
on those 4 lots those 4 estate sized lots to maybe 1500 square feet?
Hutchinson: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner Hepper, I would have to speak to the developer
on that.
Hepper: I would think that the economics would suggest that the price of the lots and the
size of them that the house would automatically be bigger than that anyway. Just so those
property owners that back up to that property line would have some assurance that they
would have.
Hutchinson: It makes sense, again I would have to clear that with the developer.
Johnson: 1 have one question I am dying to ask of the developer, there is a rather
exhaustive letter in the, as there is on most of our applications from the Joint School
District No. 2 which is the Meridian School District regarding the difficulty they are having
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with schools and crowding and the fact that this particular subdivision would feed schools
that are already at their maximum or over their maximum capacity. Do you have any
comments regarding that letter from the school district?
Hutchinson: Mr. Chairman, I have just seen this letter today, it is one that again we are
acutely sensitive to the overcrowding that is in the Meridian School District at this time.
I think most of the developers are willing to work with the school district in an attempt to
come to some sort of a solution or some way to aid the school district in that dilemma. 1
don't know how to address it at this particular time. Again, I believe the developer will
need to look at this to see if there is something that they can't, to see if there is someway
to work with the school district to help them out.
Johnson: Thank you, anyone else? This is a public hearing, is there someone else that
would like to address the Commission on this issue?
Dennis Brockway, 1059 Justin, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Brockway: We have some of the adjacent Carol Subdivision neighbors here tonight and
I am going to speak to one item that 1 think is very important. I want to say this right the
first time, the gentleman that proceeded me here was making quite a case for these
extremely large lots that will buffer our acre and a half and acre lots. I don't seem them
as extremely large, I think 20 feet of the northern boundary of this proposed subdivision
should be common area with a berm and a fence. And I am talking maybe a berm 6 feet
high in the middle and a 4 foot fence on top of that. Heavily landscaped, because can you
imagine, 1 don't want to have to be either of the 2 most impacted lots, maybe that is why
I am up here speaking. Can you imagine on some of those northern lots 2 story homes
looking down onto those homes that are used to having a lot of space around them.
Normally, a good planner will want to buffer an acre and a half lot with maybe a 3/4 or 1/2
acre lot and I think that this berm is a very good compromise where you don't have the
buffering. Now I have others here that will perhaps raise their hands or do you want them
to come up here individually.
Johnson: We will just call each one individually that wants to come up here.
Brockway: 1 am done, thank you very much gentlemen.
Jon Barnes, 1034 Justin Place, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Barnes: As all of you know I am in the development business, I guess it is more fun
sometimes to come and grade somebody elses report cards and I guess we can get a little
more critical of someone else's than our own. There are a couple of things, I want to talk
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of developments you approve. Specifically on this Packard Subdivision there are some
things that I think are good about it, the density I don't' think is any problem, it is just over
3 lots to the acre. But the overall design, to me, and I think I would just like to, you guys
should really take a good look at the design of this, it is very much an 1870's what I would
call a drafting 101 type approach, a grid, perpendicular streets, north and south east and
west. I think that the lasting beauty and integrity of a community needs to be a lot in a
design and when you think about design and talk about curve or linear streets that flow
that have, if you look at this Subdivision like Packard Avenue, the streets that goes up and
down on the east side of the development it is nearly a 1/4 mile long. It is a completely
straight street, having been in this business a lot of years all of those houses would be set,
the garages would be set back at 20 feet and you would have just a straight line of houses
kind of government housing feel. You will also, Ted here said there wouldn't be a speed
problem, when you have that much of a straight away down through there you do have a
speed problem and again they are selling homes here that would probably be $130,000 -
$140,000 homes with children and stuff and safety is definitely a concern. 1 would just like
to encourage you to be more critical of us developers on the design of what you take a
look at here. I know that you get overwhelmed with a lot of applications, you get a lot of
pressure, but you are building something that is going to be here for 30, 40, 50 years or
longer and future generations are going to have to live with what you approve and go
through. Specifically I live in the house directly north here with the pool (End of Tape) if
you look at the depth of those lots that is my biggest concern and I have sold an awful lot
of lots in this town and knowing the setbacks and the size of houses and I appreciate Mr.
Commissioner Heppers concern of 1500 square foot minimum but my biggest concern is
the depth. If you look at those there that are like 103 deep off that northern street which
is called Catlin Drive, when you take the setbacks in a larger house like that starting with
a 20 foot setback and then you put your 15 foot setback on the rear a larger home will be
pressing right against, it will be right on that 15 foot rear yard setback. And that is really
our concern to have 2 storys that sometimes go 30 feet in the air at a 15 foot point from
the northern boundary of the subdivision. It would be very oppressive and really
overbearing. 1 would like to either have some kind of a buffer, I would suggest that you
either cut some out of the 4 1/2 acres of park and 1 do commend them for that, that is a
really nice park, it is a big park something the city needs. I know you know that too, but
some kind of a buffer or rotate those lots, they are 127 feet wide, 128 feet wide rotate them
the other way and give us the depth north and south and the width at 100 so that, people
like to live at the rear yard. And then those houses are further from the rear yard and
aren't as oppressive to us because those 2 houses in Carol Subdivision at the south end,
(inaudible) are fairly close to this property. But other than that 1 don't have any other
comments, but I would encourage you to really consider some may of deepening those lots
or putting some kind of a good buffer along that north boundary. Thank you.
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Barnes?
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Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Barnes?
Douglas Miller, 1035 Justin Place, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Miller: I live just west of Mr. Barnes, so we are living directly adjacent to the subdivision.
If you count these lots that are adjacent to us that it is not only 3 but 4 lots would be
adjacent portions to our lots. I think this acre subdivision has been inhabited by few
people who at great forethought and great expense have carved out some privacy, some
open space and I see these homes crowded densely on the south boundary as very much
an invasion of that privacy and very much a degradation of the original concept that was
designed for these 1 acre subdivisions. I very much agree with the sentiment of increasing
that setback, I think the berm idea is an excellent idea to provide the privacy for us as well
as privacy to those neighboring lots on the south there. That I think is our major concern
of this subdivision as it is outlined. I think the berm with a considerable buffer along that
boundary would be appropriate.
Johnson: Thank you Mr. Miller.
Dick R.W. Peckenschneider, 1131 Justin Place, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Peckenschneider: I wanted to reiterate basically what they are saying because there are
several of us that are homeowners there and we didn't buy those houses to have a bunch
of mickey mouse little lots built to the south of us. The buffer zone, Dan told me that we
needed a berm and 1 agree with that but I think he is a little short, i think it ought to be 20
feet high. I would probably put concertina wire on the top of it but the only way you are
going to block this off, now Miller's and Barnes those are the ones that are going to be
hurt, I am not going to be hurting near as bad because I am 4 houses on down. But it is
still messing me up because if those kids and if you are going to have 128 houses, the way
I figure it the way they breed you are going to have about 2 kids per house and a dog and
I don't know how many cats are all going to be streaming over into our area which we have
tried to subdue to a point and that is why we bought out there. We didn't by acre lots out
there and buy expensive homes to have, I got 10,000 feet of grass and that isn't even part
of my lot for crying out loud, I just don't understand this. 1 think we need a big buffer, I
don't know how deep it is going to have to be for Millers and Barnes but it has to be far
enough back that you can build a berm and I say a fence too. So it isn't going to be
something kids are going to be playing in and getting hurt on. We don't need this,
personally don't want it, I don't know where all these kids are going to go to school, in fact
I don't even know where they are getting to get the jobs, 128 houses. One place to get out
and there is not even a stop sign that comes out of that place right now, you get down to
Fairview, I have been about run over several times, if wasn't a wild man I would have been
hit. But you are sitting there with one stinking road that comes into Fairview and you are
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going to put another 128 houses with the rest of all of those houses that are up there. It
is unbelievable, it is ludicrous and where are these kids going to go to school? I don't
want them crossing over into Barnes and the Millers and then pretty soon they infiltrate
Johnsons yard and then(inaudible) and then mine. I don't want, I don't like it, I think it
sucks.
Johnson: It is a neighborhood with character.
William Ball, 1058 Justin Place, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Ball: Well, I can't quite follow that act, but I think everyone has pretty much covered the
situation that we are faced there with on Justin Place. I just want to add my piece that we
are in support of the berm, the original by Dennis I think is a good one with the 6 feet and
the additional fence on top of that. John made some original points about the development
of the project and again I would just like to firm that I support the objection and the berm.
Thank you.
Johnson: Thanks Mr. Ball. Anyone else?
Helen Sharp, 2445 Wingate Lane, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Sharp: Going along with our gentlemen here, he says he has 1 acre that he has been
trying to protect without the invasions, we have 5 acres and they are right up against our
fence thanks to all the granting of the zone changing. And when (inaudible) he says he
would like to help the school districts the best way to help them is to squelch the
subdivision, 128 new houses. I think if anybody would check with he realtors they will find
that there is approximately between 500 and 600 houses available in the Meridian district
right now. That does not include all the houses that are being built and already have been
granted the zone changes so that they can be built. We have also been told repeatedly
because I have been to numerous meetings here with all of the subdivisions about the
road study for Locust Grove, did I understand the gentleman to say they may go onto
Locust Grove as an access for the subdivision, in that case I would like to see one of the
reports that we are supposed to be getting on the Locust Grove Road traffic because those
of us that live there in the immediate area know what Locust Grove Road is right now and
what is going to be like. Especially if we get the others granted at the end of Locust
Grove, so Locust Grove is greatly picked on. 1 would like to know where t could get a copy
of this report if it has actually been done. I have heard developers say that there is being
one done. Where do I go to get this report?
Johnson: When the traffic study comes in and it is submitted to the city, I understand it
goes to you Gary is that correct? Gary gets a copy of it, our City Engineer. Once done
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is it available to the public?
(Discussion Inaudible)
Johnson: It is public information once it comes in. So once we receive it is public
information which means you can have a copy at $50.00 a copy or something like that.
Sharp: If it is like the Comprehensive Plan it will be obsolete before it is printed.
Johnson: Like everything else.
Sharp: I would also like to reiterate like I said before that we also have problems with
water in that area and I don't know if they have that immediately in this 39 acres. Wingate
Lane of course is just you might say abutting that property and there is a high water table.
We know, we have dug down there is the hard pan and water does not seep through. We
have also been told to use surface water and we know that there are problems from the
drainage with that. But I would like to say again to use a little bit of foresight and not so
much hindsight. Our schools are suffering, I saw an article in the paper about our
volunteer fire department, it is going too fast and there is not a real reasonable. There is
no demand for housing right now in Meridian (inaudible) but there are all these properties
available, the realtors would probably like to say let's sell what we have got. Let's use a
little bit of foresight.
Johnson: Thank you.
Burt Borrup, 2640 Wingate Lane, was sworn by the City Attomey.
Borup: What I see here is kind of the cart before the horse thing. There are so many
things that need to be addressed in this subdivision. This is the heart of the mile section
and access is terrible to it, I think fire protection would be poor even when it is fully
developed. As Helen pointed out we have a lot of subdivisions, I can stand in my front
yard and probably see 5 that are just slightly developed as we speak. So I really don't'
think that the time is right necessarily for this subdivision. 1 think there are a lot of things
that have to transpire to make this plan work as it is on this map. I have the property
directly north of it, for instance one of the things if they do decide to have a berm and I can
understand why you do want a berm I have to irrigate from the ditch that runs down there.
And I think covering the ditch is a good safety thing, is it going to prohibit people from
getting up and down that lane to take care of their irrigation needs that still use this as farm
property. That is something that will have to be taken care of. I know in the past that
certain subdivisions have gone in and created all kinds of havoc with people who still want
to have flood type irrigation. And I know one in particular that has been addressed to this
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board probably half a dozen times and is still not taken care of. So, that is just one of
many things, it is not the fact that I am totally against growth it is just proper growth and
I see the timing of this particular subdivision as just being really premature. If the roads
were to develop around it let's get the sewer a little farther a little closer to it. Possibly in
the next 2 to 3 years I don't know how the legislature is going to handle another school but
maybe a little more schooling. Certain things to where when this finally does go and it is
not such a great impact sewer wise anything wise I think we have enough subdivisions
presently in progress. I think we are going to go into a slowing situation through the
winter. I am sure they are looking at this optimistically from a development standpoint, but
I think it would fill up slowly. I am not necessarily in favor of, I know they said temporary
lift station, but temporary is going to be dictated by development and consequently by
allowing this lift station it not only sets a precedent of other lift stations in the future.
Having talked to Don Johnson at the City of Boise a lift station of this magnitude is going
to be $100,000 to $150,000 and if it is turned over to the city of Meridian there is possibly
a $5,000 annual fee to maintain this station. If they waited and did hook up to the trunk
line when it progresses that would be an expense that the taxpayer would not have to
withstand. I just see a lot of things here that aren't necessarily as wrong as early. I think
if they waited they would have less objection, I think they would have a cleaner
development and it would fit in the community at a more timely fashion.
Johnson: Thank you Mr. Borup, is there anyone else?
Vern Alleman, 2101 East Ustick, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Alleman: I guess I have some questions and it primarily pertains to the lift station which
is temporary. What I was wondering is if this is temporary what is the time limit for it to
become permanent. What are the provisions for enforcing it if it has a time limit. What
does it do for the development of the trunk line which is to be developed along the south
slough, I think now is called another name. Is there any provision for, if it is temporary we
say then in the future it is going to contribute to the trunk line. When can this be taken
here, what if they say your time is this time and ours is another time?
Johnson: I will ask our City Engineer to comment on lift stations and the temporary status.
Did you have any other questions before we do that?
Alleman: What is the provisions is there bonding that is required for something along this
line? And also in operation of the lift station is that the City's obligation or who does the
repair and the operation of the lift station. I guess 1 am concerned that they, this could be
delayed or more or less on a permanent basis.
Johnson: 1 think it is probably appropriate at this point to have Gary talk to us a little bit
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about these temporary lift stations. We have a couple on line now if you would like to fill
us in briefly Gary.
Smith: Mr. Chairman, Commission members, Vern, the word temporary means that at
some point in the future the lift station could be abandoned and it is only temporary to that
extent. In my mind the word temporary does not carry a specific time limit with it. It would
all be dependent on the rate at which the property to the north of this piece would develop
and the south slough or the finch lateral trunk line would be extended to the east.
Ultimately that south slough or finch lateral trunk line will extend and serve all of the
property to the east to our east impact boundary line which is a 1/4 west of Cloverdale
Road. That is the significance of the south slough or Finch lateral interceptor. The policy
of the City Council of the City of Meridian in the past has been development as it develops
extends the sewer and the water services to and through their properties. In this particular
case the sewer exists this time at Locust Grove Road which is a 1/2 mile to the west.
There are 2 parcels of ground that have been proposed in the City of Meridian for
development that would require the extension of the south slough of the finch lateral
interceptor. One would be the Chamberlain Estates Subdivision the other one would be,
1 think it is referred to as PNE/Edmonds annexation. It has not been submitted for
preliminary plat as far as I know but it has been submitted for, it is the existing Brown
property, I believe it is referred to. So the development of both of those parcels and the
extension of that sewer trunk line would also cross your property as you and I have
discussed several times. The development of those parcels of ground would get the
interceptor to Wingate Lane. Then it would be a matter of extending a line in Wingate
Lane to the south to pick up this lift station and at that time this lift station would not be
active any longer it would be abandoned. The requirements if this subdivision is approved
by the Council the improvements for the Subdivision including the lift station would be at
the expense of the developer. The maintenance of the lift station would be carried on by
the City of Meridian. Obviously as 1 have expressed to everybody that I have talked to in
the past we are not in favor of lift stations because they are a high maintenance item. It
is a daily maintenance routine, 365 days a year. And it is an expense, I guess it is
something the City Council needs to weigh against this development and the features of
this development. Have I answered your questions?
Alleman: I guess then would be my concern would be in as much as they would be
contributing to the trunk line I am wondering if they would be delaying some development
rather than to contribute to the trunk line. t think possibly that in order for this to be on a
temporary basis that there should be some bonding, so if they say I am not going to do
what are we going to do about it. I think perhaps a solution might be that they would
provide a bonding to see that it was done whenever it was needed, other wise you are
going to be in a no catch situation because you are not going to be able to do the trunk
line. I hope I am not looking at this from a selfish individual standpoint or from the
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standpoint of trying to curtail their development.
Johnson: Thank you Vern, is there anyone else that would like to come forward at this
time?
Don Bryan, 2070 North Locust Grove Road, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Bryan: All I had to look at was this little plat plan, just like all the rest of the subdivisions
around the area. My irrigation lateral runs down the south border of this property. I have
4 developers at the intersection of that property where the roads are ending and the
ditches are coming together and the lots are backing up to. 1 would tike to ask the
developer what he had in mind for that section of ground right there and what he is going
to do in the future and when. And also in conjunction with Dove Meadows development
as to if he has worked with the Dove Meadows developer and talked to him about the
problems we are having out there and what he found doing in the future as far as lining
that ditch and providing the head gate access and working with the church property. And
while 1 am here and have your undivided attention, I was wondering when this portion of
Dove Meadows was ever approved which is on the church property? 1 have come to all
of the meetings and I have never seen this portion of Dove Meadows every being
approved. I have gotten a plat just like this and of course I have probably never seen a
plat. 1 have gotten little pieces like this. We have a problem at that intersection and 1 wold
like to see this addressed before this development gets under way. Because they don't
even know where the streets are going yet according to the people I talked to in the
developments. They have ideas and they want to do this map but 1 have nothing in writing.
That is all I have.
Johnson: Thanks Don, is there anyone else? Well, I don't see anyone, thank you for your
testimony I appreciate that. I will close the public hearing, what would like the next step
to be. I should really ask before I do that whether the developer had anything he wanted
to add to the comments that were made and I can re -open the hearing if you would like to
do that? I think I will re -open it and ask you a question. I will now re -open the hearing.
Mr. Barnes was testifying with respect to, I don't think he was particularly impressed with
your design. And in all seriousness his comments with respect to depth of lots on that long
street, that might encourage speeding and that kind of thing. And it doesn't look like a plan
that has a whole lot of imagination to it without being more critical than that. Do you feel
a redesign of the plat there would be possible? And still be able to accomplish what you
want to accomplish and maybe take into consideration some of the comments and
objections you heard this evening?
Hutchinson: Mr. Chairman, what you have is I guess the new terminology for it is new -
traditional design. It is laid out on a grid system, the grid system is probably the most
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efficient use of the ground. In order to accomplish the provision of this very large open
space the design had to follow the neo -traditional street layout. I think more and more
subdivisions are going to be going back to this particular design movements away from
some of the typical subdivisions that have been designed through the 80's which have not
promoted interconnection of traffic systems. But again this particular design was driven
by the desire to provide that very large open space. If we redesign I don't know that we
could get the curvilinear streets and some of the other things in there and still maintain that
size of a park space. It is just not as an efficient use of the land as what we (inaudible).
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Hutchinson while we have here from the Commission.
Rountree: Do you see it possible utilizing that open space that you propose though a
reconfiguration as being if not part a total buffer to the properties to the north?
Hutchinson: As I have indicated when I made my previous presentation the idea was to
provide the larger lots so that there are fewer houses that would be adjoining those. not
only are they subject to your 15 foot rear yard setback but the Nampa Meridian Irrigation
District in their comments have indicated that the Stokesbury Lateral in there also has a
40 foot right of way. Which provides further buffering and that puts the nearest house to
the northern lot line of this development at 85 feet and in that 85 feet you will find 40 feet
that is in that right of way and an additional 15 feet that is on our property which is the
minimum rear yard setback. I believe that fencing would provide an adequate buffering.
Hepper: There is a lateral that runs between the 2 properties?
Hutchinson: Yes, the Stokesbury Lateral, in fact I believe there are 2 laterals that run in
there, one has already been covered. There is an open one that currently runs back there.
Hepper: Is that an (inaudible) irrigation ditch or drain ditch?
Hutchinson: I would imagine irrigation where it is managed by the irrigation district.
Hepper: It has an access road for the irrigation district is that correct?
Hutchinson: They maintain a 40 foot, they have claim to a 40 foot right of way 20 feet on
center on the lateral.
(Discussion Inaudible)
Hutchinson: They would still maintain that 40 foot right of way.
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Hepper: The property line would be somewhere in between those 2 even though there is
an easement there.
Hutchinson: The property line is located outside the easement.
Hepper: Do the property owners on the other side of the ditch actually own that area?
Hutchinson: I believe the irrigation district claims a right of way so 1 believe they are
claiming (inaudible).
Hepper: (Inaudible) own the property. What I am trying to figure out is who actually owns
the property, you guys or the property owners.
Hutchinson: I believe the property owner on the north would own it.
Hepper: So if it is not on your property we should be tiling that ditch?
Hutchinson: I believe the Meridian zoning ordinance requires that we tile all those that are
adjacent to the property.
Hepper: I am not sure how the fine points of that read as far as (inaudible).
Johnson: Any further questions? Well, it is still open, anyone from the public one last time.
Barnes: I am the one that brought up the idea of redesign but 1 really feel strongly that
they could take that 41/2 acre park and utilize that green space with a redesign. Let's say
they brought that main street in as it comes in as you seen down in the southwest corner
and went across that. You know flowing with gentle curves and looped off that and tie that
green space in and you could really make a much nicer neighborhood for the City. I just
think that this typical grid approach I don't agree with what he said, that isn't I don't see
developers going back to that, I see them going away from it because the buyers, it
provides more community, better aesthetics. More or a variety instead of just looking right
down the front of garages right straight down a street. Get away from the stereotypes of
a lot of the old developments. I really would encourage you to consider asking them to
come in with another concept that would serve this City and this community better. Thank
you.
Hepper: That ditch there that has an easement, if that is tiled that would be an additional
40 feet that would be kind of a no mans land, it is your actual property but there is an
easement there.
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Barnes: It isn't, the road from the edge of the ditch directly, the Stokesbury Lateral, directly
south of my place and Millers, there is a roadway of maybe a little more than 10 feet to our
property line from the edge of what is now the Stokesbury Lateral. The problem is
whether, I have dealt with them on down stream of the Stokesbury lateral with Nampa
Meridian Irrigation District and we have put that Stokesbury in pipe, 24 inch pipe but they
still retain the easement and won't allow us to do anything to that. Our concern is just like
what was expressed earlier is that we have expensive nice homes, we worked hard to
make it be in a private area, we feel that we need more than just an open area between.
We would like to see some kind of a berm some kind of way to push back noise. The
height of these bigger homes, because when you have a 100 foot lot on this big of house
it is going to be right back at that 15 foot setback.
Hepper: Do you think there would possibly be some way that something could be worked
out between you and the developer to maybe have them landscape that 40 foot easement
area once that ditch is tiled?
Barnes: We would be glad to sit down with them, I know the developer, I used to sell him
lots years ago.
Hepper: (Inaudible) that there is an easement in there that
Barnes: Would really be at Nampa Meridians, they still call the shots on that easement.
They have the easement, we own the land but they have the easement and the right to
use.
Hepper: (Inaudible) I was just wondering if there was someway that something between
you could be worked out for them to maybe landscape that or somehow provide you with
some sort of buffer without having to redo their streets, their lots, their whole subdivision.
I am just talking about that particular point not the whole configuration of the subdivision.
Barnes: I would be nice to time something in up there, (inaudible) Kearney Place down
Chateau Meadow all the way up through there. Mr. Johnson knows this, there is a lot of
walkers and stuff that come all the way up and all the way to Eagle Road on that, so it
provides kind of a recreation amenity in a sense right now. We feel that some kind of
green buffer that could tie in, I don't' have a hard time with people walking up ad down, 1
think it is nice that there are those kinds of things left for people to be able to utilize. We
are most concerned about the invasion of privacy and we have covered those things pretty
much. Thank you.
Johnson: Thanks John.
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Dale Sharp, 2445 Wingate Lane, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Sharp: I have to go along with Mr. Barnes there, we do need a berm and a fence in
between the subdivision there. You need to keep out the people that are coming down
that ditch road there with motorcycles and 4 wheel vehicles and everything and they are
throwing their trash out. I don't mind the walkers, if they keep the dogs on a leash
because I have some cattle there and they come out and chase my cattle. And they run
up and down that ditch road with their motorcycles as fast as they can go and I do resent
that. And so if we are going to have a subdivision we need a berm, fence and to keep the
kids and everything else off that ditch road. I do have some questions on the sewer and
the highway traffic, the education. I am just, we have water problems but then we say
Meridian is going to drill 2 more wells, but someplace along the line we are not going to
have the water to support all of this that is going on. And we have a drought as you well
know and we have had for quite a number of years. So I think we need to take a real hard
look at what is going on here. And not only this subdivision but others. That is all.
Johnson: Thank you, Don you had another comment?
Bryan: I think I better clarify this ditch and this berm and this landscaping situation, this
road that goes down this ditch right of way is my access to the head gate and in the
previous developments to the west have already given up that right of way and fenced to
the backyards through that area. And the road and the canal is just a no mans land with
fencing on both sides like a corridor you drive your car through for access to those head
gates along that canal. We just can't eliminate access to those and put a nice pathway
that would be nice for having a pathway and a green belt along there for all the walkers
for all the subdivisions but I don't know how they will take my driving down through the
middle of them in my car trying to get to my head gate.
Hepper: We are talking about the north edge of this project, is that where your head gate
is located?
Bryan: That is where I pull my water from the main Stokesbury. It has already been
provided in the previous developments with the fence on each side of the development
and that 40 feet in the middle which is no mans land which is taken care of by the Nampa
Meridian Irrigation District. In fact before they got their fences up I was driving my truck
down through peoples back yards coming and going from the head gate that is probably
why they put the fence up. It is going to be something that is going to have to be
addressed before we start developing a green system along there. That is all I have.
Johnson: Thanks Don, Burt.
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Borrup: I was going to stand up and tell Mr. Hepper that property, to clarify one thing is
owned by the property owners to the north of it, John, myself and Mr. Miller. I have
enjoyed those trips up and down that ditch with Don and his vehicle to turn my irrigation
in. Another problem is there is an active head gate that is used by Dale Sharp, Floyd
Reichert and Vern Alleman ultimately to irrigate their property that is south of my property,
almost splits my property in half. Even if it is tiled they are still going to have to get down
there to activate their irrigation, to start and to stop it. So there are going to have to be
means provided for that. So and as Don stated it isn't a case of just being able to run a
road down there or just landscape it because Vern lives on Ustick and he has to
conceivably easily access that to make a living. Something else that kind of perplexes me
about this whole thing is PNE/Edmonds is starting up Packard Subdivision and they have
also applied for the Brown property for lack of a better way to put it. At this point in time
if they solely own Packard Subdivision I could understand their anxiety to get something
put through with a lift station and so on and so forth. But they have a conceivable piece
of property to develop far closer to the trunk line, far more in conjunction with the
Comprehensive Plan. If the City of Meridian is concerned about proper growth it complies
with their property growth program far greater than to have a temporary lift station. If in
fact they develop their first property first by the time it was completed they would more
than likely be able to develop their second property without a lift station and a tax
(inaudible) city of Meridian so they do have an option, they do have an opportunity to
create revenue in their given trade without doing this property first. By doing this it not
only sets a precedent for a lift station, but if you look at the big map and hypothetically the
sewer trunk line does stop it is rendered basically the northeast corner of that mile section
sewer less for who knows how long. And all that comes is real expensive horse property.
So if growth is a concern of the City of Meridian and the sewer line is the necessity for
growth I would encourage you to take a second look at this and encourage him to develop
his first property first and then let the second property develop when the time is right and
the roads are in and possibly another school is built or the case may be. Thank you.
Johnson: Thank you
Brockway: 1 was here before so I don't have to get sworn in again, I wanted to, it seems
there is a mood to worry about the developer and keeping it at 128 lots. That is not
sacred, if we put the 20 foot in at the north and put the berm in he ends of with 118 lots,
so what. He has a cat -cam system, just call it up and 1/2 hour later you change it. It is no
big deal. That is all I have to say.
Johnson: Thank you, that probably falls under re -design somewhere. Anyone else? I will
close the public hearing at this time. What would you like the next step to be gentlemen?
Rountree: For discussion sake I would like to see findings of fact prepared just to digest
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all of the testimony.
(Discussion Inaudible)
Johnson: You have the floor whatever you want.
Rountree: (Inaudible)
(End of Tape)
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I move that we have findings of fact and conclusions of law
prepared by the City Attorney.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: Moved and seconded that we have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact
and conclusions of law on this application, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Johnson: We will now have a 10 minute break please.
TEN MINUTE RECESS
Johnson: If we can call the meeting back to order please.
ITEM #11: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GREENHAVEN ESTATES BY THE DEVELOPMENT
COMPANY:
Johnson: I will now open the public hearing, if there is a representative for Greenhaven
Estates would you please come forward.
Gary Lee, 250 S. Beechwood, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Lee: This application before you is a request for annexation to R-4 zoning with a
preliminary plat known as Greenhaven Estates. It is situated on North Meridian, a 1/4
south of Ustick, north of an existing subdivision called Lansbury Lane. This development
will consist of 40 single family dwelling lots on about 14.88 acres resulting in a density of
2.7 lots per acre which is considerable less than the R-4 request. The minimum building
lot size is as it is shown on the preliminary plat is about 80 by 164 foot in depth or 13,000
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square feet roughly. The structures in this development will comply with the R-4 zoning
requirements of the City of Meridian zoning ordinance. There will be a 20 foot wide
landscape common buffer along Meridian Road adjacent to the lots. There will be a
landscaped drainage lot in the northwest comer for storm water management which will
also act as a pedestrian access to neighboring properties. There will be a homeowners
association formed to maintain the open spaces. Access to the development is via
Meridian road and also Northwest 3rd Avenue going into Lansbury Lane. All the streets
within the development will be built to Ada County Highway District Standards, there will
be a variance request for the culdesac length on the westerly side of the development.
It measures about 520 feet, the zoning ordinances allows 450 foot culdesac. Sewer and
water into the development will be extensions of neighboring existing city services. There
is an irrigation ditch along the easterly boundary and paralleling North Meridian Road that
will be tiled. Pressure irrigation system will be installed in accordance with the Nampa
Meridian standards. All the lots within the development will include landscaping and will
be fenced by the developer who is also the builder on this particular project. In response
to some of the agency comments, Nampa Meridian Irrigation District indicated some
concerns about the Onweiler Lateral. That particular lateral is shown on their mapping
systems to end at about the right of way line of Meridian Road. There is a pair of head
gates there at the end of the Onweiler Lateral and that will be accommodated in our
irrigation system. Some of the comments by the Planning Director Shari Stiles, we are
comfortable with her comments, the one about the landscape median in Lansbury Lane
to slow traffic, we met with Ada County Highway District on this preliminary plat design and
they suggested the use of speed control bumps on that long stretch of roadway in the east
west direction. The minimum building size in the R4 zoning ordinance is 1400 square
feet, this development will comply with that ordinance. The developer has indicated that
the houses will range anywhere from 1400 to 1800 square feet in size. I reviewed Gary
Smith's and Bruce Freckleton's comments, we are okay with what they have had to say
and most of those items will be addressed in the final design portion of the project. If you
have any questions I would be glad to entertain those.
Johnson: Thanks Gary, any questions of Mr. Lee?
Rountree: Gary, have you talked to Gary Smith about his comments and could you
elaborate a little bit on his comment 13?
Lee: I haven't spoken with Gary about them, I have reviewed the comments. Let me see
if I can find his list here, about the sanitary sewer. We did discuss that at the concept
meeting about a continuation of the sewer system. And I did discuss it with the design
engineer on Lansbury Lane. I am not sure what he is alluding to here, but we did review
the depth of the sewer to accommodate that property. It appears from the initial point that
it will, there are some other things about the sewer that 1 don't know about.
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Johnson: The Commissioner would like you to address that Gary please?
Smith: Mr. Chairman, at this time there is a trench dug across the access road on the
property to the south and west of Lansbury Lane Subdivision. We don't have access to
the sewer line and that is what the comment alludes that was made in my review. That is
my understanding that was being resolved but at this point we don't have access to that
sewer line for maintenance purposes.
Lee: That is south and west of Lansbury Subdivision?
Smith: Yes, it is on the Bob Flaten property and that is a piece of property that the sewer
line crosses that serves Lansbury Lane subdivision and will also serve this proposed
subdivision. It has been a while since we had a meeting or had any discussion with our
City Attorney concerning the status of that. It was my understanding it had been worked
out to where the ditch that Mr. Flaten dug will be filled in and that Mr. Williams the
developer of Lansbury Lane is going to do some work on the road itself and some other
clean up work that Mr. Flaten had requested. So I believe it is being worked out, correct
me if I am wrong Wayne but I think that is being taken care of.
(Inaudible)
Johnson: Any other questions of Mr. Lee? Gary, the variance that would be necessary
because of the length of the culdesac, the City Council has been pretty adamant about
granting variances only in cases of hardship. What would be your response to that?
Lee: I guess the hardship was created when Lansbury Lane was subdivided and the way
it was. In that particular subdivision culdesac exceeded the minimum length as well and
by virtue of their stub street we had to connect at that point and the shape of this property
is narrow in deed, which doesn't give the owner of this property an opportunity to be real
creative with a street system. A possible solution would be to extend a stub street to the
west property line so that when that property line develops to the west it would eliminate
any culdesac at all.
Hepper: Could the stub street to the north be located in a different spot so that they don't'
line up with the one to the south?
Lee: We considered that as well and discussed that with the Highway District and Shari
Stiles. The problem that we create there is the block length between that stub street and
Meridian Road. Right now it is at the maximum thousand feet so there could be a variance
either on block length to move that stub street west or a variance on the culdesac, but that
is a good solution. I think that is what I would do if I had an opportunity.
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Hepper: Are there any other alternatives available besides just a straight shot?
Lee: Well, there could be some meandering street through there, but the problem you
create is lots of shallower depth and lots that are very deep. Right now they are very deep
at 164 feet on each side. If you start meandering that street you get real deep lots in an
excess of 200 feet which we don't believe is a desirable situation.
Hepper: Or islands possible?
Lee: Islands are a possible solution to help control traffic.
Hepper: I am not so concerned about the traffic as the Aesthetics of it, the streets, just
dead straight for I don't know how long it is. (Inaudible).
Johnson: Thanks Gary, this is a public hearing anyone else like to address this?
Rich Fern and Gloria Fern, 2790 North Meridian Road, was sworn by the City Attorney.
G. Fern: We have some development concerns, when the development is finished we live
directly across the street from the development which on your vicinity map had an R
across the street. So, where the street is going to come out that is where our duplex is.
Our residence sits directly next door to the duplex. The development concerns are when
it is finished is that the traffic slowing in front of the house and the complex to turn in and
out of the street that there will be cars constantly in front of our property. In talking with
Shari Stiles and the highway district there are 400 estimated vehicle trips per day that will
take place. Where the cars that will be coming out of Greenhaven Estates, the lights will
be hitting directly onto our duplex and actually when they are turning the lights will be
hitting into our residence.
R. Fern: The lights will cross the entire structure.
G. Fern: We are also concerned about street lighting so that it won't be offensive, if they
proposing street lighting across the street where it will be shining directly into our windows
also. Also, our tenants driveway backs out directly into the street, the Greenhaven Estates
Street and we are concerned about that, that it will be dangerous for our tenant to be
backing out into the middle of that street right of way. Building concerns, we are
concerned that the debris from the construction site blowing over into the property that
adequate dumpsters will be there to take care of that situation. Also that maybe they will
have the street swept during, maybe once a week to pick up all the dirt. We are concerned
mainly about how it is going to affect our tenants, that street where they will be exiting out
of the subdivision is right where our duplex is. We are concerned about that confusion
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going on. Some of our proposals are that maybe they can possibly move the street access
to line up with our pasture. We have 290 feet across our pasture and if they can configure
the street where they move it more north where it is not going to impact the duplex directly
it would be better for us. We are also proposing that they put in sound walls and
landscape barriers to curtail some of the noise and lessen the visual impact of headlights
directly into the house and the duplex so that we can have our privacy preserved.
R. Fern: That is pretty much it, as you mentioned that is a very long street and for
someone living at the end of that street coming down the street with say a 4 by 4 aimed
at the duplex would be quite something to experience in the middle of winter when
everything is real dark. As Gloria said we do have a pasture that is north of the duplex,
the pasture probably starts 15 or 20 feet north of that with all the 290 feet of frontage.
now John's property also has more space to the north of it. It is to the north of where the
road is proposed, I don't' know how much. We are hoping that perhaps that could be
changed somehow and some way.
G. Fern: Another situation that we have going on is that our house and duplex are very
close to the street, so if we have the impact of these 400 estimated vehicle trips per day
going on it is almost right onto our property there with all of this interaction going on all day
long with these vehicles.
R. Fern: A couple of years ago North Meridian Road was widened and the amount of traffic
on that street now has increased to say the least. I can only assume that it will get a lot
more and I am envisioning at certain times of the day and evening where cars are going
to have to slow and pull into that center turning lane and wait in front of the duplex to turn.
That is not a good thought, it is like a constant flow of cars in front of our house. It is fairly
negative I would say.
G. Fern: Our house is right next door to the duplex, so whatever impacts the duplex is also
going to our impact our residence where we live, so we are very concerned about that.
Thank you.
Johnson: Thank you, is there anyone else that would like to come forward on this
application?
Dan Sweet, 2975 North Meridian Road, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Sweet: Thank you for letting me speak, I am not opposed to development in Meridian, I
think it is healthy in some cases. I did speak earlier to the developer and my biggest
concern would be the size of the houses that he is going to put on there. I think if you
folks could remember the development next to his on the south Lansbury Lane has houses
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that are in the 1800 square foot size range. When we start to go down to an R-4 and
houses are going to be around the $100,000 price range I guess that is a big concern that
we would have since our house on the north would be in the 2600 square foot range. I am
very concerned about the Comprehensive Plan that we are developing here and that we
stick with not real expensive developments and little so so developments. I had some of
the same concerns about traffic and obviously we know stuff is going to develop. I did
bring a preliminary plan of the property that would be north of that property. This would
be Meridian Road, (inaudible) 3.2 houses per acre. We are looking at 2600 and 2200
square foot houses. I would just appreciate some consideration there and you folks
looking at his plan (inaudible).
Johnson: How many acres do you have there?
Sweet: There are 2 5 acre parcels which is 10, that was Strausser Subdivision.
Johnson: And the total number of lots?
Sweet: 23 lots, thank you.
Johnson: Thank you, any questions? I saw another hand.
John Sanford, 2880 Vendable Lane, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Sanford: I have lived on Vendable Lane some 24 years now. I have attended a number
of these zoning meetings and apparently 1 am not getting anywhere. I own 20 acres, these
20 acres are in 2 separate parcels, 7 1/2 acres are east of Vendable Lane and I have 12
1/2 acres west of Vendable Lane. My property abuts the end of this subdivision. My cow
pin is right here where I train cutting horses, about 40 feet from the end of that culdesac.
The first meeting I attended was when Lansbury subdivision was being developed and
indicated there was a culdesac. I asked him to plot that out because 1 need access. The
reason I need access is because Vendable Lane is a private lane and it is deeded. They
told me at the time that Vendable Lane was going to be a through street, it is obvious due
to Waterbury Subdivision No. 5 that it is already not a through street. And all intent and
purposes my 7 1/2 acres which is east of Vendable Lane is landlocked. I checked with an
engineer from, I think the name was Brian Smith from Hubble Engineering regarding
Waterbury Park No. 5 because the last meeting I attended here they indicated they were
going to make some sort of stipulation to cross the slough into my property so I would have
access into Waterbury No. 5. He tells my, Mr. Smith tells me this is not true, they did away
with that. So in essence I am definitely landlocked on this 7 1/2 acres. Number 1 1 was
told Vendable Lane would be a through street, I was told by 2 people at that time the City
Engineer. I am a loss and I am disturbed, I am disturbed because it looks like you have
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got me painted into a corner. I have already got kids coming from this Lansbury
Subdivision chasing my horses which are right across the ditch. I am not in favor of any
subdivision any more. But I am really not in favor of one when I am landlocked. I don't
know what else to tell you but I think I have a problem and I think you are the only people
that can solve it.
Hepper: Your solution to the problem is to extend the street through to the property line,
is that correct?
Sanford: Number 1 1 think you need to abut that out, I tried to get them to abut it out on
the Lansbury thing and he wouldn't do it. Now you are going to abut it out probably 50 to
60 feet south of my property line. So it isn't going to be down the center of my property.
My property lays the same way as these 2 pieces do into Vendable Lane, 12 1/2 acres.
I have a big horse arena there, I train cutting horses.
Hepper: That would be if the street alignment was perfectly straight that would
Sanford: Go right in between my cow pins.
Hepper: It wouldn't line up with your
Sanford: It would go right through my arena.
Hepper: But it would only be a little ways from your property line?
Sanford: About 30 to 40 feet.
Hepper: Which for purposes of future development that wouldn't do you (inaudible).
Sanford: I have to get somewhere somehow, I can't fly in there.
Hepper: So if they provide access to the southern edge their property that would give you
(inaudible).
Sanford: You have encountered another problem, they are already talking about this big
long street here and this speed deal. When I, when someone tears by building down and
they develop it (inaudible) then you have a big long street to contend with. Vendable Lane
needs to be a public street, that would take care of my problem on the 7 1/2 acres for the
most part and my 12 1/2 acres.
Hepper: Have you talked to Ada County Highway Department about that?
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Sanford: Yes, he was at the last meeting here and said due to my elaborate facility, he
never thought I would want to have access for reasons of development, because it is a
pretty large arena. But I don't think it was Ada County Highway District's position or even
their place to make judgement on my facility whether I wanted access or not. The other
alternative, I don't know, 1 have never received notice of Waterbury 5 subdivision being
finally approved other than talking to this one engineer that says they are not going to go
across the canal like they told you.
Johnson: Do you have anything else, that is what we are here for to gather this testimony
so someone can get back with you and hopefully.
Sanford: Can I have someone's word that they will get back with me, because I never
heard about Waterbury No. 5 until I contacted this engineer.
Johnson: I can't speak for the City but they get copies of all our minutes. If this does
progress which it normally does.
Sanford: Is there anyway I can legally stop this whole thing until 1 find out. I am not going
to get land locked it is illegal.
Johnson: My personal suggestion would be to talk to one of the City fathers.
Sanford: I have talked to 2 of them.
Johnson: Have you talked to the Mayor.
Sanford: Yes, I talked to him when all of this started.
Johnson: Have you talked to him since the promise wasn't' kept and you thought
(inaudible) and what was the response you got on that?
Sanford: Well, that was at the Waterbury No. 5 meeting, I didn't get an answer.
Johnson: So you still don't have an answer.
Sanford: Not unless you give me one.
Johnson: I don't have any answers either, I don't' want you to tear down your arena and
I sure as hell don't want you flying in there. We will work on getting you an answer we will
do that. Anyone else?
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Joe Simunich, 955 West Ustick Road, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Simunich: First of all I would like to bring one point forward and 1 think in our area of
development there, the Vendable property, the Peterson property, the Lansbury property
and now this property that the Homan property, it looks like each one of these developers
looks at each one of these properties to his own benefit and not for the entire area. So I
think Ada County Highway District, the City Council and Planning and Zoning, as these
people come in for these rezones to divide this property should take a look at the entire
area. Not only the property lines, but also for instance Vendable Lane is a private lane
and there are some ditches in there. Before these plots are approved I think somebody
should look at the entire area rather than just each individual 14 acre piece, a 10 acre
piece or a 12 acre piece. That is enough on that. Now let's go to the irrigation and the
Onweiler Lateral. That has been a headache for a long time and Gary Smith is aware of
it, the Mayor is aware of it and numerous other people are. Now 1 understand this
developer is scheduling pressurized irrigation. On Lansbury Subdivision on the plat on
the covenants it says no irrigation water will be provided to the lots. The engineer now I
hear him say there is going to be pressurized irrigation. On the Onweiler Lateral, it has
probably been there for 60 or 70 years, we have a rotation on that lateral. 1 would
approximate that the whole property has water for about 12 hours every 8 days. How are
they going to have these people just draw water 12 hours out of every days and water all
of their lawns. Can they change their rotation, can they do something else. This rotation
has been established and we don't like to give up our water rights. Some people buy
property because they irrigation during the day time, in the old days if you had to get water
at night your property didn't bring near as much money. So, we still have 60 acres here
and at the present time we have no intent of disposing of it. It seemed like each time one
of these subdivisions come up I have to come in here and talk to you people, talk to the
Council, but then furthermore we get a product or ditch or something that is unsatisfactory.
Fences built right on top of the irrigation line. Other people haven't got access to their
head gates, so these things need to be addressed and possibly while the engineer is here
I would like to ask how he is going to water all these lots on a 12 hour rotation when he
only gets water 12 hours out of every 8 days. Thank you.
Johnson: Thanks Joe, is there anyone else?
Chris Williams, 4185 South Linder, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Williams: I am a pretty strong advocate on property rights and people being able to do
what they want to do with their property. I did appreciate the density on this subdivision
that they had proposed. I am here representing the homeowners and builders in
Lansbury, being the developer on Lansbury I wanted to read this letter.
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Johnson: Are you with the homeowners association?
Williams: I am the president. We received a certified notice for the proposed Greenhaven
Estates subdivision and would like to commend the developer on his proposed densities.
However, in order to establish continuity with our neighboring properties and the aesthetic
quality that has already been established for a particular area of Meridian we respectfully
request that the following restrictions be recommended to the City Council prior to the
approval of this project. The first is, that the developer design the entrance and that it be
reviewed by the City. On the property to the south, on Lansbury Lane I know from
developing that to establish something a little bit nicer on that 350 foot stretch which isn't'
a large stretch isn't a major expense. It ended up being and 1 think I have a really nice
entrance that is above the norm, 1 think it cost me a total of less than 3% of my total
development cost. It wasn't a major expense to create a nice atmosphere for the
neighborhood, everybody sees when they drive by Meridian Road. They see the brick
wall, in 10 years the brick wall is not going to be deteriorated like a cedar fence would.
Landscaping, extensive landscaping something in brick or stone. We just want something
next to us that isn't' going to adversely affect us and that is what the people are going to
see. The second thing is that we would request that islands be proposed and required in
this neighborhood for the slowing of the traffic as it was in Lansbury Lane. I submitted that
letter to the Commission on that, that the requirement that was made by my or the
suggestion that was made on Lansbury Lane when 1 developed that. I feel that speed
bumps on the straight street will only cause deflection of traffic through Lansbury Lane.
Lansbury Lane the cross street is already a restricted right of way as it is. It was designed,
the street was designed to restrict traffic from going through there on the basis that in the
Comprehensive Plan at that time, I am not sure if it is still in the new Comprehensive Plan
but Vendable Lane was designated as a collector for the center of that section. And I am
not sure if that is still in effect in your Comprehensive Plan or not. But when I did go
through the approval process of Lansbury it was. The linear streets, I know that they
talked about this on the long stretch on Packard Subdivision. The street is, property is
1710 feet long, it is over a 1/4 mile. What we have done and this is just a suggestion, we
alternated setbacks. We have 25, 30 and 35 foot setbacks, they are a little bit larger but
we are doing a little bit larger homes. I am going to go ahead and read this third request.
We understand the minimum square footage in an R4 zone is 1400 square feet, we also
know that in certain circumstances and the circumstances I think Hunts Bluff is an
example, I think Cougar Creek is an example, there were several examples that Shari
Stiles gave me this morning that under certain circumstances the City has required a
greater minimum than the minimum square footage set by the ordinance. Based on the
following facts we feel that this project warrants similar consideration and thus request that
a reasonable minimum of 1600 square feet of living space be required in Greenhaven.
Greenhaven is between Lansbury Lane which is averaging 2000 square foot homes and
that is based on 19 homes that are built and are in the process of being built. And that is
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the minimum, we are requiring a minimum in Lansbury of 1700 square feet in a single story
and 1800 square feet in a 2 story, but our average is 2000 square feet and we are
requesting 1600. The Sweet property on the north, their 5 acre lots and their 2 homes
consisting of 2650 feet and 2200 feet on 5 acre lots. Shari Stiles had communicated to me
that Gary Lee the engineer on the project had said that the economics involved with larger
lots would dictate larger homes. But after discussing this with the developer on the project
he plans on building they said 1400 to 1800 square foot homes. At the time we talked to
him he said 1350 to 1600. And that it was economically feasible because he was the
developer and the builder. We don't feel that allowing 1400 square foot homes built
between projects with homes of 2000 square feet and 2650 square feet is good long term
planning for the City of Meridian, not to mention the economic injustices placed on our
property. We are talking a distance between the edge of my lots and my homes to the
edge of where the Sweet's property is we are talking 370 feet. There is not a large width
there that we are dealing with between the 2 properties. Dan has 11 lots that border his
property from Greenhaven so he has the potential of eleven 1400 square foot homes next
to his 2650 square foot home. I've got 21 lots that border this project and I am averaging
2000 square feet. Economically the people that invested in my project look across their
fence at a 1400 square foot home, 30% smaller, 30% less value it is going to negatively
affect their values without a question. That is basically my main concerns. To address the
issue with the sewer, we are working on it, at this point in time I have spoken with the
Mayor, I am having the trench put back in, the overflow is being removed. It is just a
matter of getting my contractor out there, he is cranking out roads right now for
subdivisions before fall. But I think I will get him out here at the end of next week or two
and get that cleaned up.
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Williams? Thank you, anyone else? Joe
Simunich: Can the engineer explain to me how he is going to do his irrigation water/
Johnson: On your time but not on ours, you can have a meeting with him and give him an
opportunity to address that, but I do not want to do that here. We are not in the answering
business right now. We are gathering information. Anyone else? I will close the public
hearing. What would you like to do?
Shearer: I move we have the attorney prepare findings of fact and conclusions of law for
this project.
Rountree: Second
Johnson: We have a motion and a second to have the City Attorney prepare findings of
fact and conclusions of law for this application, all those in favor? Opposed?
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MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #12: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR REZONE BY DIANE AND ROBERT
LANG:
Johnson: I am going to be stepping down on this item because of a potential conflict and
let Charlie Rountree handle it.
(Chairman Johnson steps down and Commissioner Charlie Rountree takes his place)
Rountree: Is there someone here for the applicant, I will open the hearing.
Roan Wilson, 1567 Leslie Way, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Wilson: It just says here this will be an antique store, it will be an antique and collectible
store. Diane Lang has been involved in this business for some time and she does a first
class operation. It would really be a great addition to the area. This property is adjacent
to the alley directly across from the post office. ACHD recommended or suggested that
the alley be paved as far back as this piece of property goes. That is fine, however we are
finding out that it is a little difficult to get an engineer to come right out there right away to
address the requirements and we are running into the winter. We would just like to ask
that a little time be allowed to get the paving done in case we have a big freeze and they
can't do it in the middle of winter. Are there any questions?
Rountree: No questions here, you might want to come back if some do come up. Anybody
in attendance want to address this? Seeing none I will close the hearing.
Hepper: Mr. Chairman, I move we have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact.
Shearer: Second
Rountree: It has been moved and seconded to have findings of fact and conclusions of
law prepared, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
(Chairman Johnson returns to his seat)
ITEM #13: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR
TACO BELL RESTAURANT BY JONATHAN GIBBS:
Johnson: I will now open the public hearing, is there a representative from the applicant
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that would like to address the Commission please do so at this time.
Ronald Thurber, 111 S. 6th, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Thurber: Gentlemen, you have before you a request for a conditional use permit for a
Taco Bell development, 1 1/2 acres. The zoning is in place for what we are requesting,
the fact that we are putting in a drive in window does require a conditional use permit. We
have reviewed the conditions placed by our Planning and Zoning Administrator Shari
Stiles, we agree with her findings of fact and would abide by her findings. Are there any
questions?
Johnson: Any questions at all?
Shearer: I have one, we have over the past 10 years have done a lot of work to upgrade
downtown Meridian and Corporate Park up there has done a lot of landscaping. As I am
sure you are aware this piece of property and Kentucky Fried Chicken property has a 20
foot weed easement between the road and their property. I am quite concerned with what
you will do in the way of landscaping to bring so that we don't have a weed patch off your
property in your right of way?
Thurber: You will find in your packet the landscape plan that was prepared by Tom South,
landscape architect, if you don't have one (End of Tape). Here is the landscape plan, the
strip over on the East 1 st Street has presently a large (inaudible) which is full of weeds
and we are filling that and we are landscaping as you can see with an automatic sprinkler
system. Any other questions?
Hepper: We have seen several proposals for this new road that you have proposed here
from Ada County Highway District, is this the final draft.
Thurber: This is their latest and greatest, they are doing a fairly large take there and yes
that is correct.
Hepper: You will have curb, gutter and sidewalk (inaudible)
Thurber: Yes sir
Johnson: Are you involved only with the Taco Bell and not the other planned
development?
Thurber: That is correct.
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Johnson: Any other questions? This is a public hearing is there anyone else that would
like to come forward right now? Everybody likes Taco Bell, I will now close the public
hearing.
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I move we have Findings of fact and conclusions prepared on
the request for a conditional use permit.
Hepper: Second
Johnson: It has been moved and second that we have findings of fact and conclusions of
law prepared by the City Attorney, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #14: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FORD
& B SUPPLY BY NEB -i COMPANY:
Johnson: I will now open the public hearing, if there is a representative for NEB -i or D &
B Supply would they please come forward at this time.
Dick Schrandt, 2110 Idaho Avenue, Caldwell, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Schrandt: Tonight we are looking for an affirmative vote from the Commission to allow for
the construction of a retail store east of the corner of Fairview and Locust Grove. At this
point in time we have met all the requirements required by the City without any significant
deviation including some additions to the drawings that you have already been given.
Where we have included more trees in the internal part of the parking lot of the store, we
have provided more screening on the south side of the property on Wilson Lane. We have
also met with ACHD and have met all of their requirements as well. We have a
development agreement that has been submitted to the City and it is under review right
now to be completed in this next week is our understanding or within this week. We have
reviewed all the City department comments that have been given to us so far and we have
no problems complying with any of those. For a little background on our business D & B
Supply has been doing business in the valley here for over 30 years. We feel that our
business has a lot to offer in the way of products and services for Meridian. We are going
to have a very positive impact on the tax base of Meridian I think. We are anxious to do
business here in Meridian and we are anxious to contribute to the City of Meridian any way
that we can. Unfortunately though the time is of the essence for us now. We need to get
started on construction this fall before we get into any kind of freezing conditions in order
for us to be open next spring. From the drawings that we have given you we hope we
have convinced you that this is going to be a very attractive store. We think it is going to
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be a very good addition to the City of Meridian. I would be available for any questions at
all.
Shearer: Do you have these 4 extra lots there, do you have any idea what those are going
to be at this point?
Schrandt: At this point no, this is just a request for the D & B portion and those lots will be
represented in the future at Planning and Zoning meetings.
Johnson: Anyone else have any questions of Mr. Schrandt?
Hepper: Have you seen the findings of facts?
Johnson: No, those are preliminary if we have them.
Hepper: There is a comment about the Comp Plan calls for a 35 foot setback on the front
landscaping for an entry corridor into the City. It states here that the applicant was
proposing a 15 foot setback and on the drawing it shows a 12 1/2 foot setback.
Schrandt: The setbacks from the center of Fairview?
Hepper: I am not sure.
Schrandt: We understand that we are in compliance with ACHD in all setbacks and as far
as the landscaping border on the Fairview side we got in drawings we are proposing a 25
foot.
(Inaudible)
Schrandt: For the landscape portion? It could be, Wayne that it is an older drawing there
but it is my understanding that we had a 25 foot landscaped area there. I believe from day
1 we have had 25 feet.
Hepper: Is the 35 foot setback possible or is the size of lot not allow that?
Schrandt: it really impacts significantly into the parking we have available on the lot. We
are trying to be in conformance with what else is being developed along that same strip
anyway. I have been talking with, (inaudible) addressing that 25 foot. In our
conversations with city personnel we understand that 25 would be an acceptable type of
distance there.
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Hepper: Could you comment on the shrubbery and the trees and planting that you plan
on having?
Schrandt: Right now we have got a number of them in the drawings, we met with Shari
Stiles and she has given us the requirement that there be on the property 68 3 inch
caliber trees as part of the landscaping requirement. In addition to that will be many
decorative shrubbery along that same landscape area too. Our idea here is we want to
make this thing look very attractive to folks that are going to be shopping in the area and
we don't, we are not going to be sloppy at all when it comes to the landscaping. As you
have seen in that design we have, there is a lot of screening all around that property, and
in a new store that we have built in Ontario we have done the same type of thing, we put
in more landscaping than what they had required over there.
Hepper: Could you comment about any fencing or anything on the back of the property.
There is a residence back there that faces directly into the back of the store, is there any
possible thing that can be done to that. I don't know put in some trees or shrubs to help
the view of the back of the store.
Schrandt: We are going to be continuing in providing landscaping across the back of the
store as well. That was a comment made by Shari and we don't' have any problem
providing that as well. It is not (inaudible) but that was one of the new requirements that
she talked to us about and we don't' have any problem with that. We are going to make
sure that it is going to, it is not going to be a hazard when people are trying to pull out of
that area onto Wilson Lane at this point it time it is not a problem but whatever
developments happen on down the road and if Wilson becomes a busier street we want
to make sure we don't create a blockage so they can't get out and see what kind of traffic
is coming.
Hepper: Will you guys be improving Wilson Lane?
Schrandt: Yes, we are meeting ACHD requirements and improving that lane, where we
do our half whether the paving.
Johnson: Anyone else? This is a public hearing would anyone else like to come forward?
Tom Zabala, 815 Park Boulevard, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Zabala: I know the hour is late and I appreciate your diligence to the task at hand here.
I myself have served over 10 years on the Boise City Planning and Zoning and Design
Review Commission so I know what an effort it is at these public hearings. When I came
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a while. I am here this evening however along with Mr. Fred Mack, we are representing
Thom and Barbara Myall who own the property to the south of the subject proposal across
Wilson Lane. We have had the opportunity to review the site development plans. The
earlier plans that were proposed for this project and like your staff have had some
concerns that we would like to share with you this evening. We do request that conditions
be added to any recommendation for approval by the body to the City Council to ensure
that this project is developed in accord with the Meridian zoning and development
ordinance and the comprehensive plan so that it is in fact harmonious with the intended
character of the neighborhood and future land uses in the area. As designed and again
I can only refer to the plans that we have been privy and not what we've heard by the
applicant here this evening. Although we do commend them for their commitment to doing
the landscaping correctly, but in terms of the plans that we are privy to we believe that the
landscaping along the south property line is inadequate. Immediately fronting the Myall
property there is presently indicated 477 linear feet of unbuffered unlimited access
frontage. The back of this area is indicated as the applicant's loading dock, their service
area and their refuse area with unobstructed vehicular access along its entire length.
There is no indication on the drawings that we are aware of that the existing lighting can,
exterior lighting we can only assume there will be wall mounted lighting directed toward
the street for both early morning and late evening operations and or for security. Trucks
and vehicles that will be using this area will be there we assume on a continual basis with
their lights perhaps horns, motors running, doors slamming etc. I do have and would like
to enter into the record this evening this site plan which we will elaborate on. As you
probably know Wilson Road is not developed as a major and will probably not be
developed as a major commercial retail access road. It is conceivable that the highest and
best use for the Myall's property to the south will be zoning that will allow for either Limited
Office type uses or medium to high density residential uses. The applicant's current
proposal creates what we believe to be a dangerous, injurious, obnoxious and otherwise
objectionable conditions which would adversely impact these surrounding areas and not
be in the best interest of the City of Meridian. We would request that your
recommendation for approval include conditions that require the applicant to number 1
provide and maintain adequate landscape screening and buffers along this south property
line to protect the adjacent property line from excessive exposure to noise, refuse, fumes,
glare of lights, debris, miscellaneous mechanical, electrical ground mounted equipment
in that area, or any other unsightly developments that may occur at the rear of this
building. And this is a fairly significant size building on this big piece of property. We
would also like that the applicant provide and apparently there is conditions under way to
that effect. The appropriate right of way improvements that will not only define and limit
vehicular and service truck access to the sight but there by avoid creating any interference
or hazards with traffic on the adjacent Wilson Street. We believe that this will provide,
safe and fast and efficient movement of both vehicles and pedestrians along this frontage.
We would request that the conditions of approval be specific in that the applicant
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specifically define the improvements that are proposed along here and that those
improvements should include a minimum of 5 to 6 foot high screen to be provided along
the south property line. This screen may include fencing, walls and or landscape
combinations to provide a dense sight obscuring sound absorbing buffer. We believe the
planting should be installed with gross characteristic which will provide the right height and
sight obscuring capabilities within a 2 year period of time, that the landscape area should
be developed with a random and natural layout with both coniferous and deciduous
elements. All planters we believe should not be less than 6 feet wide within the property
to provide adequate growth area for plantings and to protect from dehydration along this
south side. Obviously all landscaped areas should be fully equipped with automatic
sprinkler systems. We believe that access to Wilson Road should be limited to the 3
access points and egress points that we have indicated. And that obviously clear vision
triangles be observed in regard to all screens and vegetation, walls or other items that may
be built in there for other purposes. Any lights that occur along this area should be
shielded or arranged to reflect away from the properties to the south. And of course as we
have mentioned that all of the requirements by the Ada County Highway District for street
improvements, curb, gutter and sidewalk should be fully improved along that property line.
We believe that D & B Supply will be a good neighbor in this area and we appreciate their
commitment to doing the job right. We believe that the conditions as we have outlined
them here this evening will encourage further excellence in creativity in the design for
future developments and promote the goals of the comprehensive plan. Thank you very
much, I would like to enter this testimony into the record also. I would be happy to answer
any questions.
Johnson: Are they any questions of Mr. Zabala? This is a public hearing, is there anyone
else that would like to come forward at this time?
Thom Myall, 6227 Marlbourough Drive, Goleta, CA, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Myall: I would like to read a prepared statement. I am representing my wife, Barbara
Myall and myself. We are the property owners at 1470 N. Locust Grove Road, Meridian
Idaho, which is immediately south of the NEB -i proposal. This property was the home of
my wife's late parents for thirty years and is presently rural residential in Ada County and
zoned Rural Transitional (RT). We have maintained a gravel road down Wilson Lane to
our residence during this time. The property consists of a residence and approximately
16 acres, lots 18, 19 and 20 of Pleasant Valley Subdivision. The home is viable residence
which is currently leased. At this time we do not know how our land will be developed. We
realize Meridian is experiencing growth and desires commercial development to increase
its tax base, provide jobs and offer local shopping, a goal stated in the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan. As commercial development encroaches in an historically rural
residential subdivision, often incompatible land uses result. The Meridian Comprehensive
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Plan addresses this issue relative to the Pleasant Valley Subdivision, which is designated
as a Mixed Use area. Policies applicable to development are stated, specifically
paragraph 5.18U, pages 28, "existing residential properties will be protected from
incompatible land use development in this area. Screening and buffers will be
incorporated into all development requests in this area." Also, the issue of screening and
buffering is addressed in the Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, August 16, 1994.In
addition, the Meridian Zoning and Development Ordinance 1993 contains ordinances that
diffuse the adverse affects of commercial uses on residential property. The following items
are applicable to this development and of interest to us. 1. Provision for commercial and
industrial uses. 2. Outdoor storage of commercial and industrial material. 3. Design
standards for off-street parking. In addition to the written testimony of October 5, 1994
submitted to the Meridian Planning and Zoning by Mr. Fred Mack and Mr. Zabala's
comments this evening, we have the following concerns relative to the impact of the NEB -i
proposal will have on our property. The present application and site plan show a D & B
retail store, with parking lot and storage yard. There is a potential for glare from the
parking area lights and rear store security lights and the potential for contaminated water
run-off from the parking area and building. We are currently on a well at the residence.
In reference to the aforementioned policies and ordinances, and in order to minimize the
adverse affects created by the development on the continued enjoyment of our residence
and any future development of our property, we suggest the following be required: 1.
Appropriate landscaping, berming and fencing be increased from what is shown on the site
plan to extend the entire length of the storage yard, building and parking lot as they abut
Wilson Lane. 2. The rear of the site be limited to 3 access points on Wilson Lane, 2 curb
cuts located at the west end and one curb cut to the east end. These two items wold
reduce the adverse impacts of glare and noise and unsightly view from our residence. 3.
We request that all drainage from the site enter a sewer system. 4. We request that
during the construction ingress and egress to our residence not be blocked at any time.
Thank you for the opportunity to express our concerns. I have the prepared statement.
Johnson: Thank you. How long have you actually owned the property?
Myall: We have owned the property for approximately 4 years, my wife lived there for 2
years prior to our marriage.
Johnson: At one time there was some commercial use of that property was there not?
Myall: Not that I am aware of, unless the raising of alfalfa on that land.
Johnson: I thought there was a sign business operated out of that residence for some
time?
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Myall: (Inaudible) our rental contract states that there will be no commercial business ran
out of that house. We found out through some neighbors that it was being done and it was
moved immediately I believe over by the glass place on the comer. I think that is where
they are right now, it was Mark's.
Johnson: I don't know the fellows name it was Signs Inc. or something like that. Any
questions, any further questions? Anyone else from the public? Dick did you have some
final comments?
Schrandt: Just to answer some of the comments that were made by Mr. Zabala we have
already addressed that there will be additional landscaping provided on the south side of
that building. The agreement or the arrangement that we have with the Ada County
Highway District is that there is not going to be unlimited access off the back of that
property. There is curb and gutter going to be provided there as well as only 2 40 foot cut
outs for access to that property. there will be some wall mounted lighting at the back of
that building but our design allows for that to be pointed down ward so it does not shine
out onto the road at all, we have that on our other buildings now and it works very
effectively in preventing any kind of glare that shines out into any kind of traffic or any
adjacent properties. The truck traffic that was mentioned is very over stated, we only have
a truck that comes to our store during normal business hours, it comes, the most we would
ever see a truck at a store would be once a day and again that would be during normal
business hours. We send our own truck to the store once a week again during normal
business hours. There aren't an blaring horns and dazzling lights at night. This is a very
clean retail store, there is nothing toxic or noxious about our product mix or anything that
we put in our yards. There is no external noise in the equipment that we use, our forklifts
are the only thing that runs around outside and those are propane fueled so they are very
quiet. As far as contamination due to water, I am not sure where that would come from,
again our products are not contaminated, not toxic. All water run off will be contained on
the property according to code and arrangements that we have already made.
Hepper: Would you address the fencing that they mentioned?
Schrandt: We have fencing all the way around our yard, our property in our design. In
addition to the fencing there is screening from trees and shrubbery all the way around the
property too.
Hepper: Would this include that strip across the back of the building that didn't show on
the map?
Schrandt: Yes, the fencing comes around part way and then like I mentioned before we
will be providing more landscaping across the back of that store.
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Hepper: Would the fencing be included with that landscaping across the back of the
store?
Schrandt: No fencing, I am not sure what the fencing would accomplish.
Hepper: More or less a screen for the residents, I assume the residence is just opposite
the store.
Schrandt: No, the residence is off (inaudible) there is nothing behind the store itself.
Hepper: Although someday there could be, the general ideas that it would probably be
high density housing that would be the normal transition from commercial to residential.
Whether it happens or not we don't know. I don't know, I don't personally feel that a 6 foot
fence across the back of there is not an unreasonable request.
Schrandt: If the requirement is that there be some screening we will provide whatever
screening is necessary.
Johnson: Any other questions? Anyone else, any further comments? I will close the
public hearing then. I see the attorney has already prepared preliminary findings of fact
and conclusions of law, what is your position Mr. Crookston with respect to acting on these
in light of the testimony?
Crookston: (Inaudible)
Johnson: We need a motion.
Rountree: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that the preliminary findings of fact and
conclusions be amended to reflect the testimony tonight and specifically addressing the
screening of the Wilson Lane side of the development.
Shearer: Second
Johnson: It is moved and seconded that we amend the preliminary findings of fact and
conclusions of law that have been prepared to reflect the testimony, any pertinent
presented this evening, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
Johnson: It was your intent that those have to re -drawn or amended?
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Rountree: They have to be amended.
ITEM #15: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR DANBURY FAIR SUBDIVISION 5, 6, AND 7 BY B.W. INC.:
Johnson: I will now open the public hearing and invite a representative for Danbury Fair
subdivision to come forward.
Dan Torfin, 250 South Beechwood, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Torfin: Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission the application before you tonight
contains a request for annexation and zoning, and preliminary plat approval for the 3
parcels that are shown on this map over here on the easel. These parcels are located
adjacent to the existing developed and developing Danbury Fair subdivision which is
designated as R-8 zoning. The parcel to the lower left is designated as phase 5, it
contains 33 lots on 10.4 acres. That is also designated as an area for urban development
on the comprehensive plan, it is located on a collector street adjacent to a potential green
belt area. The highest and best use for property with those classifications would be for
multi -family and high densities, we are proposing single family that is compatible with the
surrounding area including existing homes to the west across the Five Mile Drain. We are
proposing a pocket park, it is the green area in that middle block that will be developed
with playground equipment. Sewer and water services will be extended to serve this
project. Access will be through the existing Danbury Fair subdivision through a street that
is currently scheduled to be constructed sometime in November. No development would
occur in that area until that street was extended. Like I said this phase is adjacent to the
Five Mile Creek which is a potential greenbelt area. We are contemplating preserving
access for the Nampa Meridian Irrigation district along the Five Mile Creek. There is
approximately 15 to 18 feet of an existing road that they have. We are also proposing that
area could be developed as a green belt or a pathway, a multi -use pathway which in my
mind that is probably a gravel pathway, we are talking bicyclist and possibly equestrians
and walkers. We would like, if we develop that as a pathway we would like to make sure
the City of Meridian would take over ownership and maintenance of that pathway that
could be incorporated into a master pathway system for you as things develop along the
creek. Phase 6 which is the piece over to the east side and it fronts on Locust Grove
contains 73 lots. It is on 18.93 acres. We have modified that area based on some
requirements from ACHD and I would like to hand out a new 8 112 by 1 copy that shows
the stub streets. One to the north, we have been approved by the Ada County Highway
District subject to providing a stub street to the north as shown in the northeast comer of
the phase 6. And the main reason for that was there is a parcel of ground between our
project and another project that is proposed to the north and it is kind of a narrow deep
piece and they are concerned about access for that parcel. The City of Meridian has a
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requirement that blocks lengths will not exceed a thousand feet. We have put the stub
street in at this location and we still have, if you interpret the block length from the stub
street to the northwest comer we are still over 1000 feet, if that is in fact the interpretation
in your ordinance we would see a variance from the City Council when and if we get to
that level. We are also proposing an access from this #6 phase to a park that is proposed
in phase 3 that will be developed in the spring of 1995. We also, while we are talking
about a park if I could point it out, in this area right here in phase 1 which contains a
basketball court and play ground equipment I would like to give you a hand out on that.
(Inaudible) They are, these parks are owned and maintained by the homeowners
association and have provided in the developed phases recreation opportunities for the
residents of Danbury. We have received a favorable comments from the homeowners in
the subdivision. Phase #7 which is the northerly portion in the small culdesac was
included within the original preliminary plat of Danbury Fair. We are constructing a
veterinary clinic just north of that parcel and went through a rezone that required us to go
back through the process and include some R-8 property that was rezoned and was
previously approved by the City Council. It contains 12 lots on 3.07 acres. It is adjacent
to commercial and the green area is a buffer that is proposed to be installed in conjunction
with the development of the vet clinic. The Danbury Fair Subdivision is an entry level
subdivision, it is a transitional zone surrounded by some heavier commercial and industrial
uses. We are heavily, strongly involved in the architectural control of the subdivision, we
are kind of proud of the subdivision, the location and what we have been able to
accomplish as far as the looks of the homes and the quality of the subdivision. I would like
to hand out a couple of pictures to you. We feel like Danbury is one of the quality entry
level housing subdivisions in the area. We accomplished that by a strong architectural
control committee. We require all homes to have brick, in many cases we have gone back
and made the builders do, put more brick on if it doesn't seem adequate. We require
everything to be approved and strong control on fences and colors. And we feel like we
are doing a good job on that. like 1 said we are in a transitional area, primarily in a mixed
planned use area where there are other developments and other things that are happening
out there other than residential. We are requesting R-8 zoning for this property with the
1100, 1200 and 1300 square foot homes. We are not allowing anything under 1100 square
feet. I would like to show you this map and this map shows, this is the vicinity right here
and to the north of us is some commercial uses that are under construction right now. To
the northeast we have the auto salvage yard, these are our neighbors, over here to the
east we have a tool manufacturing plant. This would be across a field that was proposed
for some development, high density residential and industrial, across from them we have
the (inaudible) plant. This parcel over here to the south (inaudible) homes that are
compatible with what we have developed. They are older homes, they are probably 15,
years old and probably of the similar size. This is another neighbor right across the creek
from us, the creek lies right here. This is another home in the area and also along the
west boundary of this development we have apartments, high density. So we feel strongly
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that in order to compete and in keeping with what we have done at Danbury so far we
need to have the R-8 zoning and be able to build the 1100, 25% would be 1100 square
foot, 25% - 1200, and then 50% would be 1300 and above. Regarding, we received a
letter from Dan Mabe of the School district indicating that his original letter submitted to
the City was in error and that they did not require a site in this area and that they felt like
with the bond election and some other schools that they have planned that they could
adequately serve without a school in this area. I will introduce into the record a copy of
that letter. As I stated previously, they feel that the school that they have planned in the
Edgeview Subdivision off of Cloverdale will adequately provide some classroom space for
this development, 118 lots this is probably a 3 to 5 year project so we are not talking about
this subdivision coming on line all of a sudden. In fact we are building phase 4 of Danbury
right now. Which contains 66 lots. The traffic plan for this subdivision has been approved
by ACHD, their board of Commissioners approved this new preliminary plat of 5, 6, and
7 last week with the condition that we provide the stub streets. We are providing, we have
2 access points right now for the development which is Stonehenge to Pine and
Stonehenge to Fairview in a circuitous route and you can see the existing streets depicted
on there that link that all together. With the new development we are putting in a third
access point out to Locust Grove and Locust Grove will be a major road that will be able
to handle the additional traffic load even as it exists now we will widen it to meet ACHD's
requirement. They have asked for 45 feet from center line. In addition to that another stub
street is proposed in this location, ties into Atkins Lane which is an existing gravel road
that can also provide another access point for the subdivision. When the preliminary plat
for Danbury Fair was approved their was a stub street shown to this 18 plus acres and at
that time we entered testimony on the preliminary plat that someday that street would go
through and here we are now with plan for it. The land package had been put together but
the farmer that farmed that ground didn't know (End of Tape). In the staff report for this
project, the City Engineer is indicating that he would like to have the traffic analyzed. Ada
County Highway District has not put that requirement on us and with 4 access points which
is probably more access for a subdivision of this size than any that probably exist in
Meridian to this degree, to major arterial roads. We feel like the analysis is complete,
there was a traffic study completed when we went through the first time it was approved
by ACHD. So we would like to have that requirement stricken. Back to the Five Mile
Creek, we have just recently gone through an engineering analysis of the floodplain for the
Five Mile Creek. I believe your Mayor and City Engineer have received correspondence
from FEMA that modified the floodway and floodplain lines in this area. It was based on
new data, the topography was in error and we showed through new topography that the
floodplain didn't actually exist to the extent that was shown meandering through phases
3 and 4. It has now been pulled over, the floodway is totally in the channel of the Five Mile
Creek and the floodplain line now runs right through here in phase 5 only of any of the
Danbury property developed or proposed for development. Our plan for that is to remove
that from the floodplain by means of fill and that is in that area somewhere around 3 to 6
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inches and we have done that in the past. It is just a process with FEMA. In all actuality
the road that the bike path is on is above that line, it is a highway spot and there is a little
swell behind the access road that needs to be filled. Gary Smith, your City Engineer may
be able to respond to the recent information received by FEMA. We have submitted
covenants for this for the new phases, the master declaration which has been recorded.
As we develop we just annex the additional phases to that, that is our plan. We are also
proposing to provide pressurized irrigation, we are retro -fitting the existing phases and our
design that we have right now and that we are completing getting the approvals on will
service these future phases. That is about all I have, I would be happy to answer any
questions you have.
Johnson: Any questions of Dan? Anyone else from the public like to come forward?
Bernadine Morgan, 1187 East Fairview, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Morgan: Where the #7 is on the map there is our property and we look into 14 back yards.
Would there be any possibility that we could have that side fenced please.
Johnson: How much acreage do you have their?
Morgan: About 5
Johnson: Is there just one home on it?
Morgan: Yes (inaudible) and across the back it is 14 backyards. Everything that you don't
want to put in the front you put in the back. We have young people from Danbury
subdivision cutting across our place. We have horses in there in the summer time and we
don't want anyone to get hurt. That is it.
Johnson: I appreciate your comment, thank you. Anyone else?
Melinda Harper, 1004 North Scrivner Way, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Harper: I have friends that live in the Danbury Fair development and I commend the
developer on the phases so far, they are very attractive. I have no qualms there, since you
get sarcastic as it gets later I will make it quick. One thing, there is a lot of trash and
debris that is created during construction and this is nothing new to anybody. I know that
when my house was being built that houses around me were being built I could tell you
every day what every construction crew worker had for lunch because I picked it up. I am
hoping that there will be dumpsters that will be supplied and hopefully mandated for the
builders to use. And although many people may not think about it I hope their are portable
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toilets please because I get tired of people doing it in public. There are safety hazards,
lots of nails and things laying around and children love construction sites, so I hope that
is considered. I am trusting and I hope that there will be lighting that is good and safe and
yet is not offensive for those of us who live behind. Traffic, there is a big problem of traffic
and it is increasing and I have sat here tonight and so far there are 4 developments
coming up that will be affecting Locust Grove, Layne, D & B, Bedelco and now Danbury.
So I am hoping that traffic is addressed and I would like to see that road, you are saying
there will be a setback and I know that road is going to be widened eventually, I would like
to see the traffic speed on that road diminished to 25 miles per hour because there are
children on that road and as these houses are coming on line there will be more children.
Buffering, I do see that you have some buffering and it certainly looks nicer than what we
have, I won't say anything there. I hope that ordinances are observed and as it starts
getting darker even though the nights tend to be longer in the summer that the builders
who are there will at least take us into consideration and not putting on a roof at 12:00
o'clock at night. As for a gravel pathway, that sounds really nice, it would be nice to have
a gravel pathway with bikes and walking, I hope there is a restriction so that motorized
vehicles are not allowed. Thank you.
Johnson: Thank Melinda, anyone else? Dan would you come up we have a couple of
questions for you and you probably have a couple comments you want to make. One
thing, the question regarding the fence up by the numeral 7 there is that a possibility, is
anything planned for that?
Torfin: Typically what we have done and I think for the most part along the Morgan's
boundary with exception of maybe one parcel the homeowners have fenced.
Johnson: That has been the trend.
Torfin: That is what we, if we are up against a ditch than we will.
Johnson: There is no ditch there.
Torfin: No, the ditch comes in and goes this way.
Johnson: It is not in your covenants they have to fence though?
Torfin: No
Johnson: The photograph you gave us of the basketball court is that a photograph of what
is there now?
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Torfin: Yes, that is the most northerly part and then we have this park down here which
is nearly double that size and then the park here which is (inaudible) a basketball court in
the northerly one and playground equipment and grass and pathways and it (inaudible).
The people like to have those near their homes so they can watch their kids from their
kitchen windows and they are positive.
Johnson: Are you aware of the petition that the City has received signed by some 18 or
so individuals opposing this project?
Torfin: Yes, we have seen it, 1 make my point again that we are compatible with what they
have on that side. 1 think, it seems like the issue was losing the wildlife habitat and it is
a field of weeds right now with an irrigation road access along it. There (inaudible) inside
the channel but for the most part, I may have some pictures. I can show you what
(inaudible) I guess we like the birds and the bees and the animals as much as all of these
people on the other side, they, if you can see in the picture those developments have
come right to the bank so there is not room for access along there and there is no
(inaudible) area at all. We are proposing to maintain a 15 to 18 foot area for a gravel
pathway. I don't' think it necessarily needs to have sod down the side of it, maybe
windflowers or some other type vegetation that provides a cover and a corridor for the bids
along there.
Johnson: Have you had any meetings with any people that object to the, I believe on
Cathy Lane?
Torfin: No I have not, I just received the staff report Monday and haven't really had a
chance to address it.
Johnson: Anyone else have any questions? Tim
Hepper. We just had a subdivision just north of where that 6 is (inaudible) right above that
we had a piece there that adjoins the salvage yard there. We had lots of testimony from
residents in Danbury Fair that wanted us to keep that at 1300 square feet. If I remember
right we did except for those pieces of property that were on the northern edge that were
adjoining the salvage yard we allowed them to go with the smaller footage homes, but the
balance of those homes was required to be 1300 square feet and that was mainly because
of concerns of the residents in Danbury Fair.
Torfin: I will tell you that in Danbury right now, 50% of the homes that are 1100 and 1200
square feet and you probably weren't hearing from people that couldn't afford 1300 square
foot house. If you look at these houses that I have given you, from the outside the 1300
and the 1100 look a lot the same. There is a little bit difference in price. And in this
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transitional zone and given the surroundings if we had to build 1300 or larger everyplace
north of Locust Grove requires 1300 or larger we couldn't compete for one thing and we
are also trying to provide an area where there is a transition in these mixed uses to allow
for some of these entry level homes. A 1300 is an entry level also, but the 1100 and 1200
are important to a lot of people. It is the difference from them being able to get into a home
or living in an apartment. I think if we eliminate that, especially in this area, you will see
us back, or see other people back proposing apartments because it is astronomical the
cost to get into a house anymore. So, I think with the mix we are proposing 50% to be
1300 we are not proposing anything less than an 1100, we have a lot of people that live
in there that is the difference for them to be able to get into a home. And they are nice
homes.
Hepper: First of all everything north of Fairview on Locust Grove is 1350 or bigger, a lot
of them are going to 1400 now. I don't think we are passing anything that is (inaudible)
so if you had 13001 don't think we have any subdivision in Meridian that we passed lately
that we allowed 1300 so you would still have an edge on the market.
Torfin: I think there are still quite a few homes, unplatted lots north of Locust Grove that
can build a 1300, 1350, 1 think they are almost the same thing as far as 50 more square
feet in a home. 1 don't think it pencils out, if you had the option of going here or going
north you would probably go north given the manufacturing concerns and the commercial
concerns and the traffic. I say that, we want to be able to compete and we are business
and we want to compete, but also there is a need and that need is going to travel west to
Canyon County as there are no more affordable lots in Meridian or anywhere else.
Hepper: I feel if Canyon County wants 1100 foot houses they can have them, personally
I really don't feel that the residents in Meridian want 1100 foot houses. I realize from an
economic standpoint as a builder, because I am a builder that 1100 foot houses
economically sell a lot better and there is a need for them. With the growth that Meridian
has got I don't' necessarily feel that the people of Meridian want 1100 foot houses in
Meridian.
Torfin: 1 don't know what the numbers are.
Hepper: It is just an opinion thing, I think a 1300 square foot house you would still have
an edge on the market because everyone else is required to have something a little bigger.
Most of them are going bigger than that, beyond that anyway, they are going 1400, 1500
square feet.
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Hepper: Yes, because of the interest rates, just recently before that we were selling them
as fast as we could build them. As soon as the interest rate went up then everything came
to a screeching halt.
Torfin: And we are faced with that too, so everything like that will cause us problems.
guess I disagree if you can go north and build a 1350 or in a 1400 you would probably do
that and I would just ask that you give us consideration given the area in which we are
located and the things that are proposed at Locust Grove, the existing uses.
Hepper: Would you be willing to compromise on the square footage, they have a
requirement I think it is 10% 1100 and 20% for 1200 square feet, would you be willing to
compromise and go 30% 1200 square feet and then the rest bigger or something like that?
Torfin: We have already eliminated the 1000 square so we are not proposing that first
step in there, 1100 is the bottom. I feel like we are compromising and we wanted to make
that step to keep the quality up in the subdivision and that was a compromise and we carry
that throughout all the other phases of the Danbury Fair.
Johnson: We have to move this along, we are running into tomorrow. Anything else? Is
there anyone else before 1 close the public hearing?
Dennis Baker, 250 South Beechwood, Suite 120, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Baker: Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission, due to the late hour I just wanted to
make a thank you for your indulgence and would like to make one comment as the
developer of Danbury. I am also the developer of several other subdivisions over the last
25 - 27 years in the area here and Island Woods is one of them, I address myself to Island
Woods as one of the ones where we had a lot of environmental issues. As to this petition
that was addressed talking about repairing an area along the Five Mile Creek. With our
environmental experts the environmental engineer Mr. Gebhardt and his wife Joyce
Gebhardt botanist (inaudible) as we looked into all of this along the river and the
(inaudible) north and south channels which are on the actual island of Eagle Island what
we found was it was incompatible to have pedestrian traffic up and down a green belt area
along the river and still protect the (inaudible) and the wildlife areas. If we are going to
have a path and green belt along Five Mile then you don't need to expect that you are
going to have (inaudible) wildlife area in that area. The biggest single detraction to bald
eagles for wintering and the biggest single detraction to wildlife along the rivers is
pedestrian traffic and not living close to the river. It is the pedestrian traffic, this is not
Dennis Baker speaking this is documentation by way of studies that have been done on
Eagle habitat and other wildlife habitats. I think you might consider that in your
considerations and your findings of fact. We really also feel on the density issue that we
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would like to hold to the densities that we are asking for with the area to the east of us
across Locust Grove in an industrial range for commercial industrial, allowing from some
residential. I don't' think you are going to find much residential mixing too much in there
with the industrial commercial unless it is extremely carefully monitored as to how you put
your industrial commercial next to your residential. It would have to be very carefully
monitored. So we have the industrial on the north of us on the east and on the south of
us and we have an older neighborhood on the west of us not in the best of condition. We
ask that you consider us as we have submitted to you tonight. Thank you.
Johnson: Thank you Mr. Baker. Is there anything else? I will close the public hearing at
this time. We need findings of fact prepared on this.
Shearer: I move we have findings of fact and conclusions of law prepared for this project.
Rountree: Second
Johnson: Moved and second that we have the City Attorney prepare findings of fact and
conclusions of law for Danbury Fair Subdivision 5, 6, and 7, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #16: PUBLIC HEARING: REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING WITH A
PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR GROVE RUN SUBDIVISION BY JLG BUILDERS:
Johnson: Is there a representative for the JLG Builders?
Joe Glaisyer, 3955 North Cowboy Lane, Star, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Glaisyer: Gentlemen, I am back again requesting for annexation on a piece of parcel that
is located off of Locust Grove with approximately 5 acres and I am requesting, originally
I asked for 40 units, and because we had some testimony by some neighbors who felt the
density was too high we have re-evaluated that decision and I thought we could make the
project be economically feasible at 36 units, and that is what I have proposed for you
today. I believe you have all the information as required, to my knowledge that was given
to you prior to the last meeting but somehow it didn't get passed along. At any rate I think
you have everything you need here now. I know it is late and there are several other
people that want to testify for and against. So other than that I would just entertain any
questions you might have.
Johnson: Thanks Joe, any questions of Mr. Glaisyer?
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Don Brian, 2070 North Locust Grove Road, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Brian: If I fall asleep during this wake me up will you. I need some clarification I guess
because when I was here at the first public hearing before it was asked to be tabled I was
under the understanding there were 20 units and now he is asking for 36. So I thought it
was being doubled in size.
Johnson: I think we are looking at duplexes, that is what the application says.
Brian: So if we are starting the process all over again I guess I better go over my list on
them on all of the things I would like to see done, like fencing and water monitoring and
we still haven't' gotten any clarifications as far as, I have a meeting Friday with Ada County
Highway District and the people are developing the shopping center on the corner
discussing the water and the ditch and the highway system. So I guess we will find out
then what we are going to do with the ditch that has been eliminated that feeds that
property. I imagine it is going to have to be pressurized irrigation. That is one of my
concerns on what is going to happen to the ditches out there. Of course we discussed the
fencing, and the fencing he agreed to put the fencing up before he started construction to
keep the trash enclosed inside. When I first gave testimony to this project I thought it was
20 lots and 20 units, I guess I was under the wrong assumption. I said that at that time I
stated they sure could be a worse development but from what I hear now it sounds like it
is a lot worse development. I am going on record as being opposed to it. Do you have
any questions?
Johnson: As I recall Don that was, correct me if I am wrong Wayne, it was 20 lots and
they were all duplex townhouses. So it would be 2 units per lot for 40 was the original.
(Inaudible)
Johnson: Is that right, now we have eliminated 4 units which would be 2 units.
Brian: So it is a smaller development?
Johnson: It is smaller than it was only in terms of units, it is the same amount of land.
Two landscape lots and 36 building lots, 18 duplexes.
Brian; I am opposed to this project, thank you very much.
Eric Anderson, 2107 North Zircon Place, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Anderson: I have some grave concerns about the density of this, if you notice the houses
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to the south of here, there seems to be basically 4 to the south side and you look into Gem
Park where I live, there are 9 total and there are 2 on the other side and here we are we
seem to be going away with the trend that is going on in that area. I sit on a 1/3 acre lot
but I don't know how far back from the lot line these houses would have to sit. I would
assume they are probably going to be 15 feet off of my back fence. So to me there is a
privacy issue going on here with this density and the noise.
Johnson: Do you recall your lot number?
Anderson: I am number 5 in Gem Park, the corner one. I also have another concern wit
the water pressure that has been going on with all of the development out in that area.
There have been times at 5:00 at night that I turn on my sink and get no water which is
becoming a little ridiculous for the last 2 years. I have pop up sprinklers that do not come
up any more because of no water pressure in the area. I have daughter now that is 2
years old who can't go to the school that is a block away from us because it is full. I am
looking at what we are packing in here and can't believe what is going on with this. This
to me is not following the same sort of density that is going on with cougar Creek and the
other ones that are being built around us. There is going to have to be probably a lot more
traffic going out on Locust Grove with these 36 tucked in there, you figure 2 cars per house
and as far as the first time this came I had never been notified at all about this. T his is all
becoming quite a surprise to quite a few of us. The plot height right now between Gem
Park and what they are proposing varies anywhere from about 4 1/2 feet in the center of
Gem Park clear down to my end which is probably 2 - 2 1/2 feet. So I have some interest
in what they are going to do with that land. If they plan on raising it up. Whether there are
2 story buildings, 3 story buildings (inaudible) what is going to be built and how they look
then into our backyards. The current houses that sit in Gem Park sit at least 40 feet off of
those back fences due to an easement. Mine sits closer to 55 feet so we have quite a
deep back yard at that point. If these houses are going to be stacked up against there I
think a lot of us in those area feel we are going to lose a lot in property values. I am really
opposed to this density, I don't think it follows the flow of the neighborhood that surrounds
it. Thank you.
Johnson: Thank you
Kathleen Coulter, 2095 North Amethyst, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Coulter: My lot is lot 27, it directly backs this project. The only thing I can say about it is
it is stupid. For one thing the street doesn't even look as big as the other streets. I don't
know if they have had to file with Ada County about the size of the street because it does
not look, 1 don't think it was when I was at the Meridian City Council meeting when they
first brought this up. It seemed to me the street as I recall was smaller and the easements
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were less because there was not enough room. And they had requested a variance and
I don't know if that ever came about. I don't know the setback off of Locust Grove. I am
very concerned like my neighbors with the placement of the houses, now you yourself Mr.
Hepper had just said about the size of the houses, 1300 square foot, 1100 square foot.
If you are going to pack 18 houses per site, they have got to be less than 1100 square
feet. Now my house is almost 2200 square feet on a big lot and I am very concerned
about the property value to my lot and to my neighbors lot. Again, this is poor planning,
a gentlemen earlier in testimony in another public hearing said that you need to look at the
whole area and this is a part of the whole area that wasn't looked at years ago. It seems
like it would have (inaudible) if the developer of Gem Park would have bought the
subdivision when he was developing the subdivision and bought that 5 acres and just
extended it down. Then it would flow easier well that was not done and now we are in
this. My water pressure, I have none, just like the gentleman that just testified. There are
times in the day when I try to tum my water on and if someone else is watering I get barely
a trickle out of my kitchen faucet. If someone is trying to take a shower or bathe well
heaven help getting any water (inaudible). My lawn is dry in certain areas because there
is no water to water the lawn, sprinklers don't even pop up any more. And you want to put
36 more houses in here.
Johnson: Who wants to put?
Coulter: Okay they want to put, it just seems like whatever is proposed anymore in
Meridian is just automatically passed and signed and it is going to be developed,
developed. I think it is time to pull back from development and let's get some wells. Let's
plan. I just don't think the wells in the area are going to be sufficient enough to handle this
many people. I don't' think the traffic patter is going to be able to handle 2 cars which is
72 cars coming in and out of there. If each unit has 2 cars per family. 1 am very concerned
about the setback and the easement against the back once those go in there are they
going to be within 5 feet of my fence and looking down into my backyard. Obviously they
are going to have to be 2 story and l am concerned with our privacy. That is about all.
Johnson: Thank you
David Baley, 870 North Linder, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Baley: I wanted to come up and address a couple issues that they have talked about here
and there may be some mis-communication about what we are doing. There are 36 lots
noted on the plat with 2 landscape lots and those are non -buildable lots that provide
frontage onto Locust Grove. We have met with the Highway District on this plan and we
have met all the requirements as far as the 45 feet from Locust Grove. It turns out that
area in there is actually a restriction of Locust Grove through there, and the improvements
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that we will construct on the frontage there will actually improve the traffic through that
area. Locust Grove is designated as a minor arterial. In that manner it is a good place for
higher density development in that the traffic pattern does flow better, there are some
problems with restriction in that area that need to be improved and this certainly helps that.
On the street width due to the narrowness of the lot in here, and I wanted to mention also
this is an in fill project in that yes it should have been planned for 10 years but maybe that
developer didn't' have the money or whatever it was at the time. This project will fill a
blank area in there and there is existing sewer and there is a question about the water
which hasn't' been resolved yet but that is something we will work with the City to get
through to see what needs to be done to provide this with water and not reduce the
capacity of water to the surrounding subdivisions. The street width we are proposing a 46
foot right of way in there which has been approved by the Ada County Highway District,
within that 46 foot right of way we put a 36 foot street section and 5 foot sidewalks which
are.
Johnson: That is wider than the original proposal right?
Belay: The original proposal, I don't have it in front of me but I believe that in the original
proposal we did have a 40 foot
Johnson: We are trying to help you here.
Baley: In any case we are proposing a 36 foot street section there which is a standard
street, that is what all of the streets are and a 5 foot sidewalks adjacent to the street there
and on Locust Grove in that area. The variance of the 46 feet gives us room in order to
keep the building more towards the street and still allow the 20 foot setback. There will
still be room for parking in the driveways and 2 car garages on each. Those are single
story units that are going to be going in there and when Steve Jensen gets up here he can
tell you the exact size of them. They are duplex units, each has 2 car garage and they are
single story units.
Johnson: Are they all about 800 square feet? I see the application shows 800 square feet
that is where I got that, that is why I asked that question.
(Discussion Inaudible)
Johnson: Anyway what is the minimum square footage?
Baley: The minimum square footage is 1228 square feet.
Hepper: Would those be single story or 2 story?
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Baley: Single story buildings. I do want to be quick about this, I wanted to address a
couple of issues in the staff report here. The Nampa Meridian Irrigation District has a
comment in there about 60 foot right of way for the Jackson Drain and how that
encroaches on this property. There is a 50 foot easement to the north and that is why
there are all those big back yards in Gem Park Subdivision, there is already a 50 foot
easement there. There are no easements of record on this property and I am sure we
would be happy to provide them a 10 foot easement in the back to create their full 60 feet
at that point but there is no easement of record for that Jackson Drain associated with this
property. And there are also some comments in the staff report from the city engineer that
indicate that they didn't' get the conceptual engineering plan that was submitted and there
are some questions about what is on that plan. I think that the plan we submitted was
substantially in accordance with the code on that and I will need to get back with the City
engineer and the Planning Director to find out what we missed on there. There were 2
plans submitted one was a preliminary plat and the other was a conceptual engineering
plan. I would be glad to answer any questions if you have any.
Hepper: Would these be built as duplexes or townhouses?
Belay: They will be built as townhouses. Each unit will be sold separately.
Hepper: Each one will have a separate power meter, water meter?
Belay: Yes
Hepper: Fire walls between the units?
Belay: Right that is correct. And the minimum lot size in this zone is 4250 square feet for
the lot size and we are meeting that minimum lot size.
Johnson: Any other questions? Thank you.
Steve Jensen, 1420 W. Washington Street, Boise, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Jensen: Thank you, I know it is late, I will try to be brief as I can. 1 think the first thing that
1 would like to re-emphasize here is that this definitely is an in fill type project. It is
unfortunate that this particular piece of ground was not provided in the existing
subdivisions, we have Gem Park to the north, Meridian Place to the west and Carol
Subdivision to the south of this parcel. It is basically landlocked with those surrounding
subdivisions. It is certainly not the intent of the developer to put in a subdivision here that
is going to devalue anybody's property and we would like to stress right off that this is a
single level unit, it is designated or targeted for a senior citizen market, it hasn't been 2 1/2
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weeks since it appeared in the Idaho Statesman that the City of Meridian has no senior
citizen type developments and really has a lack of any kind of senior citizen type housing.
What we have done with these projects in the past we found that 75% of the units do sell
to senior citizens, the remaining 25% of the units normally sell to single adults or to
married adults with no children. We have a plan here that has full 2 car garages, with
some fairly heavy restrictions as far as the use of those dwellings and the types of animals
if any that will be provided for there. There are 6 foot privacy fencing going around the
entire exterior of that property, and then everybody's individual backyards will be privacy
fenced as well. As the engineer stated the Gem Park to the north, the closest that any of
those people are to the property line is 50 feet and likewise with Carol subdivision to the
south we are meeting all the minimum setback requirements of a 20 foot front setback and
a 15 foot rear setback throughout this development. I do have copies of the plans, I would
be happy to show anybody that would be interested, the building plans. Like I said the
smallest units is a 2 bedroom, 2 bath 1228 square foot unit with a 22 foot wide garage.
It is a nice size unit and I mean in 2 bedrooms 1228 square feet is quite large. The 3
bedroom unit is a 1406 square foot unit with a 22 foot wide garage as well on the 3
bedroom unit. The subdivision restrictions will prevent anybody from parking vehicles or
anything like that on the street or it requires that they garage their vehicles. We are trying
to do a first class development here and fill a housing niche in the City of Meridian that
nobody else to this point of time has made an attempt to fill. It is certainly not the intent
of the developer to in any way negatively impact the surrounding property owners
property. That is not what we are going to do here, we have done developments in the
past similar to this one and that hasn't occurred in the past and it is certainly not the intent
of the developer in this situation.
Johnson: Have you done any of those recently and if so could you point us toward one?
Jensen: The most recent one would be Silverton Park Subdivision in Boise just off of
Boise Avenue and Law which was a 14 unit development just completed by the developer
JLG Inc. less than a year ago.
Johnson: Are you familiar with the development similar to this maybe a little more square
footage, but not much the 8900 North Maple Grove, that is a situation very similar to what
you are doing. A few less units but sandwiched in between a couple subdivisions and it
is very nice. I thought maybe you were familiar with that one.
Jensen: I am not familiar with that particular one, do you know it by name by chance?
Johnson: It is called Juniper patio homes.
Jensen: Yes, I am familiar with Juniper, this would be similar to that development. For
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whatever, I have a rendering here, this is a rendering of the front of the building (End of
Tape) pretty nice street lane, we have talked along the lines of an old fashioned street
light pole to kind of alternate down the street, because that site is a difficult site. There is
really no other way to develop in there other than the way the current developer has
proposed it. So we thought if we alternated some street lights going down the sides of that
street and this project is totally landscaped and fenced and delivered to the client. In other
words underground sprinkler system is in and operating when they take over the property
it is all maintained by a homeowners association, professionally maintained. The lawns,
the homeowners association will provide for the re -painting and re -roofing of the units as
it becomes necessary. It has the potential to be a full first class project and really fill a
niche in the market place and given the alternatives of what might happen in that area for
the surrounding neighbors which is the potential for apartments or whatever might come
in there I think it is a reasonable alternative. We are not going to be looking into anybody's
backyard with a single level unit. Those people with a 2 story unit might be looking into
the backyards of these units. Like I say they are a minimum of 50 feet off their property
line and we are 15 feet off the back property line of our property there.
Johnson: Do your covenants specifically restrict rentals?
Jensen: They don't' specifically restrict it no because there is really noway we can do
that. In the price range that these would be at they would have to rent in the $900 to
$1000 range to be economically viable. We don't' find very many people looking for
rentals in that price range, that isn't to say that they wouldn't go, but if they were a rental
they are going to be subject to the same restrictions. Everybody is going to have to garage
their car, they are not going to be able to do anything that is going to adversely impact
their other neighbors. That is what is so critical about this type of a development is that
it does require that everybody live in substantially a similar manner but what we have is
a senior citizen market out here and a single adult or a shall we say or a single woman
with one child that has neither the need nor the desire nor the means to maintain a lawn
but they want to live in a maintained area and want to have an ownership interest. So, we
would like to think we are filling a niche there and I would hope that people would
recognize it is not the intention of the developer to put anything other than a first class unit
in there because it is not going to sell and we certainly don't' want to negatively impact the
property values of anybody that is adjacent to this property. I think they would be
pleasantly surprised if they took a look at the Silverton Park development off of Law
Avenue and we also did a few years ago a project over in Caldwell that is probably one
of the more desirable places in town to live at this point. If there are any questions I would
be happy to try and answer them.
Johnson: Any questions? Thank you, anyone else?
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origin of the project. I was one of the 2 original people that began looking into this
particular piece of ground for really one major reason and that is we had discovered a
demand for housing for senior people. We discovered that in 2 ways one through some
research we did at the senior communities around Boise, very enthusiastic support for
single level townhouses which just aren't being built. They are in a range that is affordable
for seniors to buy and the second is a partner of mine and I we began looking further into
townhouses in a very extensive townhouse survey and contacting many townhouse owners
in the greater area, we found a very large need for single level townhouses. Many people
owning 2 story townhouses that weren't able to live there wanted to move into single
levels. Because of that we looked into this site and I talked to the City staff here initially
and got a very positive response. I guess for 2 reasons, one they sense the same demand
for this kind of housing for singles and for seniors. And also they felt like it would be a very
desirable in fill project. They also said at that time that it seemed to be a pretty good fit
because there would be typically seniors. I feel like Mr. Jensen's testimony is fairly
accurate from the research we did, him mentioning the 75%, we have been very careful
in looking at that because I am also in the real estate industry and trying to determine
demand we are very careful about what we build so we can eventually market it. And so
that would reduce the amount of traffic onto Locust Grove, also typically because we do
find single people who purchase these we generally don't find 2 cars per unit and that also
holds true for the seniors. There is also the argument and I know Mr. Glaisyer made of
economic feasibility, when you have a site like this it has been sitting, I guess it is not
technically land locked but in a sense if you consider Locust Grove as a barrier it really
isn't a land locked piece. I want to speak highly of Mr. Glaiyser, I have seen his projects
over the last few years, he does extreme quality work, 1 can speak very highly of the
Silverton Park project in Boise and recommend you take a look there. And I also am a
strong advocate of private property rights, I stand here with that testimony that I feel very
strongly about that. I appreciate your efforts and time tonight. I would be happy to take
any questions.
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Stewart?
Jay Jones, 1426 North Carol, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Jones: I am sure you all have a plot map, 1 live at Lot 9 which is one of the smaller lots in
Carol subdivision directly south of this property. Currently Lot 8 is vacant and Lot 7 is
occupied as well as Lot 4. A couple of concerns I have, have already been voiced at
previous public hearings here and at the City Council meeting. And as well as other
people here. First of all we should all know that the reason the developer is doing this
project is the financial income just like all of us going to work Let's not look past that when
we start thinking about the needs of the community. We need to know that the needs of
the community are important and that the people in the neighboring neighborhoods
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project is the financial income just like all of us going to work. Let's not look past that
when we start thinking about the needs of the community. We need to know that the
needs of the community are important and that the people in the neighboring
neighborhoods position as well as comprehensive plan all needs to take effect in deciding
what happens to this piece of property. First of all to make this as short as possible 1
would like to say that I am opposed to it on the grounds of density, as well as the
difference in property values. You are talking lot sizes of 4000 square feet next to lot sizes
of mine which is the smallest in the subdivision of 26,000 square feet others are an acre
and a 112, 1 don't have that number off the top of my head, but quite a drastic change in
the density ratio. If you notice on the map here there is I think 5 lots that are adjacent to
the back of my property so 1 would have 5 units behind my place. I moved to the area to
have a rural atmosphere and kind of moved out of a close tight neighborhood. Granted
you never know what is going in behind you. That was one of the main reasons we moved
into the area. Square footage of the homes, they talked about the square footage being
around 1200, my home is 3000 square feet with a triple car garage. It is quite a drastic
change there with property value I would estimate right at half of these proposed and I
think that would pull my property down as well. If, and this is a strong if, but 1 think now
is the time to put these recommendations in, I really don't feel like I ought to make
recommendations because I feel like this project does not suit the particular needs of this
area. But iffor some reason this project is proposed and accepted that the following things
be considered. One that the square footage of the homes be increased to those minimum
of 1350 to 1500 square feet. That, I don't' know what kinds of provisions are made that
once this project is done or is completed or the economic times drop in the middle that they
only get a few units up, what is going to happen with fully landscaping and etc., but that
should be taken into consideration of this type of facility. When this was proposed
originally they talked about it being a senior development and now we are talking that its
75% and 25% is the norm. If this went in 1 would like to see them make it a senior center
like they are doing over off of Meridian Road. In order to do that though they have to have
a senior recreation center and then they can designate it as a senior area. It would take
some planning and some changing of what they have there, recreation facilities, park
areas which there are none provided. I have a real concern with the setback, granted I
have 50 feet from my back door to my back fence but I have 5 units that are 15 feet behind
my fence, so I am a little concerned with that. Those are basically my biggest concerns,
I would like to not see it happen but if it does those restrictions be based as well as no
rentals, like Mr. Johnson said put it in the covenants. They do have it in other areas and
it works and I would rather not see some rental property right there behind me, it would
definitely detract from where we are at. Any questions?
Johnson: Any questions of Mr. Jones? Anyone else?
Lane Mortsen, 2092 Sapphire Place, was sworn by the City Attorney.
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Mortsen: I am going to save everybody a lot of time 1 would just like to go on record that
I am definitely opposed to this. I reiterate on the other opposed that were said before.
Thank you.
Johnson: Thank you, is there anyone else? Does your property abut this?
(Inaudible)
Pat Sanford, 3510 West Tupolo Court, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Sanford: As 1 said I own Lot 4 on Zircon, I am concerned about the property value. That
is an investment property for me. I would like to go on record opposing this as proposed.
I think the idea of making it a senior center makes a lot more sense if that indeed is the
market they are after. Thank you.
Johnson: Thank you, anyone else that hasn't addressed us yet?
Kim Daniel, 2102 North Zircon, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Daniel: I sat here for 4 hours and I agree and I oppose with this project and I agree with
every thing that they have said. Number 1 is the water issue, I have heard 2 wells are
going to be sucking in Meridian, and I have lived here for 3 years and I have heard this.
This water issue has gone on for that long as long as I have lived here. The sprinkler
system the same thing as the others. I just can't see anymore development until the water
issue is taken care of. That is it.
Johnson: We have drilled some new wells, you are aware of that right?
Daniel: Where?
Johnson: In Meridian, anyone else?
Scott Dixon, 2137 Sapphire, was sworn by the City Attorney.
Dixon: I don't border the back of the property, I am just a couple lots down. I am very
concerned also about the property value, the water issue. Everything has been said and
I wholeheartedly agree with all of it. So I will keep this short and just wanted to put it on
record that is how I feel.
Johnson: Thanks Scott, last call. Is there anything the developer or their associates
would like to say in closing? I now close the public hearing, what would you like to do?
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Rountree: I am not sure we remember at this point. Mr. Chairman, 1 move we have
findings of fact and conclusions of law prepared by the City Attorney.
Hepper: Second
Johnson: We have a motion for the City Attorney to prepare findings of fact and
conclusions of law on this application, all those in favor? Opposed?
MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
ITEM #17: DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENT TO ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT
ORDINANCE:
Johnson: Do we want to address this next item on the agenda or do that at some later
date?
Crookston: (Inaudible)
Johnson: I would like a motion to that effect. Are these areas of the Comprehensive Plan
you are making reference to?
Crookston: (Inaudible)
Johnson: And it is clear enough there what you want us to look at?
Crookston: (Inaudible)
Johnson: I have a question for you, how many people representing Planning and Zoning
got involved in the process of reviewing this? Right, it would make our job easier if we
could get in on the ground floor of this stuff once in a while.
Crookston: (Inaudible)
Johnson: Except you have originated something without our input.
Shearer: 1 move we adjourn.
Rountree: Second
Johnson: Moved and seconded, all those in favor? Opposed?
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MOTION CARRIED: All Yea
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 12:24 A.M.
(TAPE ON FILE OF THESE PROCEEDINGS)
APPROVED:
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WILLIAM G. BERG, JR., CITY CLE K
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BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
BEDELCO BUSINESS AND LIVING CENTER
BEDELCO, INC.
REZONE APPLICATION
NE 1/4 SE 1/4 SECTION 7 T. 3N., R. lE
W1/2 NW1/4 SW 1/4 SECTION 8 T. 3N., R. lE
MERIDIAN, IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The above entitled variance request having come on for
consideration on October 11, 1994, at approximately 7:30 o'clock
p.m. on said date, at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho Street,
Meridian, Idaho, the Planning and Zoning Commission having heard
and taken oral and written testimony and the Applicant appearing
through a representative, Wayne Forrey, and having duly considered
the matter, the Planning and Zoning Commission makes the following
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That notice of the public hearing on the Rezone
Application was published for two consecutive weeks prior to the
scheduled hearing for October 11, 1994, the first publication of
which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing; that the matter
was duly considered at the October 11, 1994, hearing; that the
public was given full opportunity to express comments and submit
evidence; that copies of all notices were available to newspaper,
radio and television stations.
2. That Mr. Forrey stated that this property is located
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within the City of Meridian and is owned by the Applicant's, E. L.
Bews and Bert Smith, and which property is described in the
application which description is incorporated herein; that the
property is presently zoned I -L Light Industrial; that the present
use is for contract farming; that the Applicant's purpose is to
have a potion of the property zoned R-15 Medium High Density
Residential to allow for 120 manufactured housing sites and a
portion of the site to remain in light industrial zoning to allow
for business park development consisting of 28 lots; that the I -L
zoning was placed on the property on or prior to 1979; that the
industrial market has changed significantly since then; that small
business parcels are needed next to affordable housing which makes
this site ideal for a planned business and living center; that this
project will help the transition from industrial to residential in
the Old Town neighborhood.
3. That the subject parcel requested R-15 zone contains
approximately 27 acres; that the parcel containing I -L zoning is 27
acres.
4. That the R-15 District and I -L District are described in
the Zoning Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 5. and 14. as follows:
(R-15) Medium High Density Residential District: The purpose
of the (R-15) District is to permit the establishment of
medium-high density single-family attached and multi -family
dwellings at a density not exceeding fifteen (15) dwelling
units per acre. All such districts must have direct access to
a transportation arterial or collector, abut or have direct
access to a park or open space corridor, and be connected to
the Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the City of Meridian.
The predominant housing types in this district will be patio
homes, zero lot line single-family dwellings, town houses,
apartment buildings and condominiums.
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(I -L) Light Industrial: The purpose of the (I -L) Light
Industrial District is to provide for light industrial
development and opportunities for employment of Meridian
citizens and area residents and reduce the need to commute to
neighboring cities; to encourage the development of
manufacturing and wholesale establishments which are clean,
quiet and free of hazardous or objectionable elements, such as
noise, odor, dust, smoke or glare and that are operated
entirely or almost entirely within enclosed structures; to
delineate areas best suited for industrial development because
of location, topography, existing facilities and relationship
to other land uses. This district must also be in such
proximity to insure connection to the Municipal Water and
Sewer systems of the City of Meridian. Uses incompatible with
light industry are not permitted, and strip development is
prohibited.
5. Even though R-15 zoning is requested, the Applicant lists
the density as 4.4 as the density per acre on the Application for
preliminary plat which was submitted in conjunction with this
rezone request.
6. That the R-15 Zone requires a minimum of 2,400 square
feet per dwelling unit and 50 feet of street frontage; that Wayne
Forrey stated that this R-15 request is for 60' wide lots with a
minimum of 900 square feet per structure; that the price range will
be from $73,000 to $77,000; that they may have detached garages;
that they will be on foundations; that storage space will be
provided for RV's, etc; that a neighborhood park along the Five
Mile Creek will consist of 2.25 acres.
7. That the subject property has been solely used in the
past as vacant ground or as agricultural ground with no development
whatsoever.
8. That Applicants want three (3) conditions: (1)
Development Agreement; (2) Development Review; and (3) Development
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Compliance Report; that thirteen (13) lots would be industrial and
not commercial and are located on the perimeter; that walking paths
will be provided as well as a pathway along the railroad.
9. That there was oral testimony 'to this rezone
application, to wit:
a. Paul McKague, who lives at 933 East Pine, testified that
he objects to anything that is going to bring people onto
his property; that the ditch is located inside the
property line on his side; that it is an open ditch which
belongs to Nampa & Meridian Irrigation and Bedelco
proposes to develop a pathway along Five Mile Creek.
b. Opal Farrington testified that she, too, is opposed for
reasons of alleged increase in trash and traffic, and
would rather see industrial or commercial, because the
schools are already over crowded.
C. Stephanie Churchman, a representative of Builders Masonry
Products testified that Builders Masonry Products is
opposed to the rezoning of an industrial property to
residential; that Builders Masonry operates 10 hours
daily and sometimes longer in the summer; that the
hazards of noise levels, time restrictions, potential
property damage and vandalism, will soon hinder our
business.
d. Melinda Harper, and Helen Sharp testified regarding a
screening being provided to muffle noise and light.
e. Dwaine Ward, representative of Treasure Valley Homes,
stated he was in favor of manufactured housing; that
probably 60-70% would be retired people.
10. That comments were submitted by the Meridian Fire
Department, City Engineer, Meridian School District, Ada County
Street Name Committee, Central District Health Department, Nampa &
Meridian Irrigation District, Idaho Power, the Meridian Planning
Director, and the Ada County Highway District. All comments, are
by this reference incorporated herein as if set forth in full.
12. That the comments of the Planning Director were to adding
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a sectional location of map to the preliminary plat; showing the
lots scaled dimensions; landscaped buffer should be provided along
the westerly side of the property to screen adjacent low-density
residential area from this development; all proposed or existing
utilities including, but not limited to, storm and sanitary sewers,
irrigation laterals, ditches, drainage, bridges, culverts, water
mains, fire hydrants, street lights, and their respective profiles
need to be shown on the preliminary plat, that the adjacent platted
and unplatted property needs to be properly labeled, that right-of-
way and roadway widths need to be shown, that the Applicants
submitted only a partial plat which shows revisions to the I -L
area; that required changes should be submitted as a total revision
so staff and agencies are not referencing various versions of the
plat; that she recommended that the application be tabled and that
the Applicant resubmit a complete preliminary plat addressing staff
and agency concerns.
13. That comments concerning this application were made by
Bruce Freckleton, Assistant to Gary Smith, City Engineer, that any
existing irrigation ditches crossing the property be included in
this platting and shall be tiled per City ordinance; that the Nampa
& Meridian Irrigation district will need to approve the plans; that
a determination of seasonal high ground water elevation needs to be
made and a profile of the sub -surface soil conditions; that the
preliminary plat map contour lines need to be tied to an
established Benchmark; that 250 watt high pressure sodium street
lights will be required adjacent to the subdivision's entrances on
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District; that such comments are incorporated herein as if set
forth in full.
15. That the following comments are made in the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan, LAND USE, 3., industrial policies:
3.3 Access to industrial areas from collector and local
streets will be discouraged.
3.4 Industrial uses adjacent to residential area should not
create noise, odor, air pollution, and visual pollution
greater than levels normally associated with surrounding
residential activities.
3.5 Industrial development should be encouraged to locate
adjacent to existing industrial uses.
16. That pursuant to 11-2-416 L, the City may require a
development agreement when property is rezoned.
17. That proper notice has been given as required by law and
all procedures before the Planning and Zoning Commission have been
followed.
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met including the mailing of notice to owners of property
within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicants'
property.
2. That the City has the authority to take judicial notice
of its own ordinances, other governmental statues and ordinances,
and of actual conditions existing within the City and state.
3. That the City of Meridian has authority to place
conditions upon granting a zoning amendment.
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4. That the City has judged this Application for a zoning
amendment upon the basis of guidelines contained in Section 11-2-
416 of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian
and upon the basis of the Local Planning Act of 1975, Title 67
Chapter 65, Idaho Code, the Comprehensive Plan of the City of
Meridian, and the record submitted to it and the things of which it
can take judicial notice.
5. That 11-2-416 A of the Zoning Ordinance states, in part,
as follows:
"When the public necessity, convenience, general welfare or
zoning and development practice require, the Council may
amend, supplement, change, or repeal the regulations,
restrictions, and boundaries or classifications of property as
well as the regulations and provisions of this Ordinance."
6. That 11-2-416 (K) of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances
of the City of Meridian sets forth standards under which the City
shall review applications for zoning amendments; that upon a review
of those requirements and a review of the facts presented and
conditions of the area, the Planning and Zoning Commission
specifically concludes as follows:
(a) The R-15 zoning would not be harmonious with and in
accordance with the Comprehensive Plan since the Plan states
that industrial development should be encouraged to locate
adjacent to existing industrial uses and since the Plan states
that industrial uses should not create noise, odor, air
pollution, and visual pollution greater than levels normally
associated with surrounding residential activities, placing a
residential use next to an industrial zone likely could
inhibit the development of the industrial uses.
(b) The area is not intended to be rezoned in the future.
(c) The area included in the proposed zoning amendment is
intended to be developed in the fashion that would be allowed
under the new zoning of R-15 as the Applicant has submitted a
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E. Pine Avenue and N. Locust Grove Road; that a master street
drainage plan which includes the method of disposal and approval
from the affected drainage district needs to be provided; that the
Ada County Street Name Committee, approving the subdivision name
and street names needs to be submitted; that existing domestic
wells and/or septic systems will have to be removed, except wells
that may be used for non-domestic purposes such as irrigation; that
information detailing the traffic impact on existing or adjacent
roadways & intersections needs to be submitted; that Lot 16 Block
3 and Lot 9 Block 4 are not considered "Flag Lots" and shall have
a minimum street frontage of 40 feet measured on the chord; that
Lot 19 & 22 Block 4 shall have a minimum street frontage of 50
feet; that any existing FEMA Flood Plain Boundaries on the
preliminary plat map need to be indicated and/or any plans to
reduce said boundaries; that Applicant needs to submit the proposed
restrictive covenants and/or deed restrictions for review; that all
comments, are by this reference incorporated herein as if set forth
in full.
14. That the comment from the Ada County Highway District
regarding this application was a request to defer action on the
preliminary plat; that the ACHD is in the process of resolving
several access and alignment conflicts that may significantly
impact the configuration of the plat; that comments were also
received from the Meridian police and fire department, Meridian
School District, Ada County Street Name Committee, Central district
Health Department, Idaho Power and Nampa & Meridian Irrigation
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proposed subdivision plat of the entire area and it shows
development to meet the requested rezoning of R-15, however,
the entire area is now zoned light industrial and the R-15
development would not be compatible with the industrial zoning
and probable uses.
(d) There have been no recent changes in the area or adjacent
area which dictate that the area requested to be rezoned
should be so rezoned.
(e) That the property, designed in an R-15 fashion and under
R-15 requirements and limitations, is designed so as to be
harmonious with the surrounding area; however, the R-15 zone
is not compatible with the I -L zone.
(f) The R-15 zone and its use would not be hazardous to the
existing or future uses of the neighborhood and should not be
disturbing to the property owners in the adjacent residential
areas, but the I -L industrial uses would not be compatible
with the R-15 uses.
(g) The property would be able to be adequately served with
most public facilities.
(h) The R-15 zone would not create excessive additional
requirements at public cost for public facilities and services
but may be detrimental to the I -L industrial development since
the industrial uses cannot create noise, odor, air pollution,
and visual pollution greater than levels normally associated
with surrounding residential activities.
(i) The R-15 zone and developments should not involve a use
detrimental to the existing residential area or the general
welfare of the area, but the I -L industrial uses may involve
uses that are detrimental to the R-15 uses.
(j) Development in an R-15 fashion should not cause an
increase in vehicular traffic over and above what the traffic
increase would be if developed as I -L.
(k) That a rezone would not result in the destruction, loss
or damage of any natural or scenic feature of major
importance.
(1) The proposed zoning amendment to rezone the land to R-15
from I -L light industria is not in the best interest of City
of Meridian.
7. That it is concluded that the Application to rezone a
portion of the property from I -L Light Industrial to R-15
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Residential should be denied.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts
and approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
ROLL CALL:
HE�PER VOTED
ROUNTREE VOTED
COMMISSIONER SHEARER VOTED
COMMISSIONER ALIDJANI VOTED
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER) VOTED
DECISION AND
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the City Council of the City of Meridian that the Application
for rezone from I -L Light Industrial to R-15 Residential should be
denied.
MOTION:
APPROVED:
DISAPPROVED:
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MERIDIAN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Policies that help shape the Bedelco Business and Living Center
• Goal 4: To provide housing opportunities for all economic groups
within the community.
• Economic Development - Housing Goal Statement 3.1U Approve
quality housing projects that meet the needs of all economic levels.
• Economic Development - Housing Goal Statement 3.2U Encourage
efforts to develop and maintain quality neighborhoods and housing
which are recognized as basic infrastructure requirements of
economic development.
• Land Use Goal Statement 1.5U Encourage a balance of land uses to
ensure that Meridian remains a desirable, stable and self-sufficient
community.
• Land Use Goal Statement 3.11 Zoning and development within each
of the Industrial Review Areas should be analyzed to ascertain if
there are potential problems or conflicts which would hinder the
development of these areas by private industrial and business
interests.
• Land Use Goal Statement 3.14 The character, site improvements and
type of light industrial developments should be harmonized with the
residential uses in this area.
• Economic Development Goal Statement 4AU Help existing small
businesses expand employment and marketing opportunities.
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MERIDIAN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Policies that help shape the Bedelco Business and Living Center
• Housing Goal Statement 1.3 An open housing market for all person,
regardless of race, sex, age, religion or ethnic background, shall be
encouraged.
• Housing Goal Statement 1.4 The development of housing for all
income groups close to employment and shopping centers should be
encouraged.
• Housing Goal Statement The City of Meridian shall ensure that no
discriminatory restrictions are imposed by local codes and
ordinances.
• Neighborhood Identity Goal Statement 6.8U Adopt land -use
designations which will allow for housing opportunities for all
income levels within neighborhoods.
• Neighborhood Identity Goal Statement 6.9U Establish strategies for
low- and moderate -income housing opportunities, including
neighborhood area plans, senior housing, and specialized housing
needs.
• Neighborhood Identity Goal Statement 6.11U Promote well-planned
and well-designed affordable housing in all Meridian neighborhoods.
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OUTLINE OF TESTIMONY
TOM ZABALA
Mr. Chairman, members of the Commission, my name is Thomas M. Zabala. I am an
architect and principal in the firm of Zabala Giltzow Albanese, Chartered. My office is
located at 815 Park Boulevard, Suite 350 in Boise. In the past, I had the pleasure to
serve ten years on the Planning and Zoning and Design Review Commissions for the City
of Boise.
I am here this evening, along with J. Frederick Mack, representing Barbara Myall. We
have had the opportunity to review the site development plans for this project and have
some concerns that we would like to share with you this evening. We request that
conditions be added to any recommendation for approval by this body to the City Council
to insure that this project is developed in accord with the Meridian Zoning and
Development Ordinance and the Comprehensive Plan so that it is harmonious with the
intended character of the general neighborhood and future land uses.
As designed, landscaped buffers are proposed along the entire north, east, west and a
portion of the south property lines. Immediately fronting Mrs. Myall's property there is
presently indicated approximately 477 linearfeet of unbuffered, unlimited access frontage.
This back area is indicated as the applicant's loading dock, service drive and refuse area
with unobstructed vehicular access along its entire length. There is no indication of
exterior lighting but one can assume that there will be wall -mounted units directed toward
the street for security as well as early morning/late evening operations. Trucks and other
vehicles will be here on a continual basis with their lights on, motors running, doors
slamming, etc.
Wilson Road will not be developed as a major commercial or retail access road. It is
conceivable that the highest and best use for Mrs. Myall's property will be zoning that
allows for limited office or medium to high density residential uses. The applicant's
current proposal creates dangerous, injurious, noxious and otherwise objectionable
conditions which would adversely affect the surrounding areas and is not in the best
interests of the City of Meridian.
We request that your recommendation for approval include conditions that require the
applicant to 1) provide and maintain adequate landscape screening and buffers along the
south property line to protect adjacent property from excessive exposure to noise, refuse,
fumes, glare, lights, debris, transformers, pad -mounted mechanical/electrical equipment
or other unsightly developments; and 2) define and limit vehicular/service truck access
to the site to avoid creating interference or hazards with traffic on the adjacent street
while providing safe, fast and efficient movement of vehicles to off street parking and
service areas.
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We request that the conditions of approval be specific by stating that:
1. A minimum 5- to 6 -foot high solid screen be provided along the south property line.
This screen may include fencing, walls and/or landscape combinations that will
provide a dense site obscuring, sound absorbing buffer.
2. Plantings should be installed with growth characteristics which will provide the
required height and site obscuring within a 2 -year period.
3. Landscaped areas should be developed with a natural, random layout of
coniferous and deciduous trees.
4. All planters shall not be less than six (6) feet wide to provide adequate growth
area for plantings and protection from dehydration.
5. All landscaped areas shall receive full, automatic irrigation systems.
6. Access to Wilson Road shall be limited to three (3) ingress/egress points along the
southern property line. Clear vision triangles will be observed in regard to all
screens including vegetation, walls, solid fences or other site obstructions
exceeding three (3) feet in height.
7. Any lights shall be shielded or arranged to reflect light away from properties to the
south.
We believe that D & B Supply can be a good neighbor and that the conditions proposed
will encourage excellence and creativity in the design of all future developments and
promote the goals of the Comprehensive Plan.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I would be happy to answer any questions.
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BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
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ANNEXATION AND ZONING
A PORTION OF THE NW 1/4 SE 1/4,
Section 5, T. 3N., R.1E., B.M., Ada County
PACKARD SUBDIVISION
MERIDIAN, IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled annexation and zoning application having
come on for consideration on October 11, 1994, at the hour of 7:30
o'clock p.m. on said date, at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho
Street, Meridian, Idaho, and the Planning and Zoning Commission
having heard and taken oral and written testimony and the Applicant
appearing through Ted Hutchinson, and having duly considered the
matter, the Planning and Zoning Commission makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That notice of public hearing on the annexation and zoning
was published for two (2) consecutive weeks prior to the said
public hearing scheduled for October 11, 1994, the first
publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing;
that the matter was duly considered at the October 11, 1994,
hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to express
comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were
available to newspaper, radio and television stations.
2. That the property included in the application for
annexation and zoning is described in the application, and by this
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reference is incorporated herein; that the property is 39.87 acres
in size; the property abuts Kearney and Dove Meadows Subdivisions
and is south of Carol Subdivision, which is an Ada County
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3. That the property is presently zoned by Ada County as
(RT) Rural Transition and the proposed use would be for R-4
Residential development with 136 single lots of which 128 would be
developed with single family dwellings and eight lots will be
common open space; a subdivision plat was submitted for approval
which showed a 4.95 acre private neighborhood park; either in the
letter submitted with the annexation, zoning and subdivision
applications by Ted Hutchinson or by him at the public hearing it
was stated the homeowner's association will maintain the landscaped
common areas; fences will be installed along the perimeter, a
pressurized irrigation system will be developed; that the minimum
lot size would be 8,000 square feet with minimum dwelling size of
1,400; that there are several larger lots adjoining Carol
Subdivision #2, which are approximately 13,091 square feet; that
the ditches will be tiled; that some of the block lengths and cul-
de-sacs are longer than allowed by the ordinance and that Applicant
desires that the standards be waived; that a temporary lift station
for sewer will be necessary but eventually the land would sewer to
the South Slough. Mr Hutchinson later testified that the design of
the subdivision was driven by the desire for the park space; that
the Stokesbury Lateral would be a buffer even if tiled; that the
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property on the north owns the right-of-way for the lateral
4. The general area surrounding the property is used
residentially and agriculturally; that the residential property to
the south is zoned R-8 as is the residential property to the west;
that Carol subdivision is not in the City of Meridian and is an
acre or larger lot subdivision.
5. That the property is adjacent and abutting to the present
City limits.
6. The Applicant is the owner of record of the property.
7. That the property included in the annexation and zoning
application is within the Area of Impact of the City of Meridian.
8. That the entire parcel of ground is included within the
Meridian Urban Service Planning Area as the Urban Service Planning
Area is defined in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan.
9. That the Application requests that the parcel be annexed
and zoned R-4 Residential; that the present use of the property is
for agriculture.
10. That comments were made from the people attending for the
hearing; the comments were as follows:
a. Don Bryan testified that his irrigation lateral runs
along the south boundary of this property; that he has
worked with the developer of Dove Meadows and the church
property that is south of this property and has had
problems with the water. He later testified that the
of-wiay was his access to his water headgate
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b. Dennis Brockway testified that he was an owner of
property in Carol Subdivision; that the proposed buffer
lots are not large enough; that he desires a berm with a
fence; that a buffer is good compromise. He later
testified that he had no problems with reducing the
number of lots.
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C. Jon Barnes testified that he had no problem with the
density; that there was a problem with the design of the
subdivision; that there would be a speed problem along
the long street; that there was not enough depth for the
larger lots that are proposed to buffer Carol
Subdivision; that the buffer lots need to be deepened to
act as a buffer. He later testified that the green space
could be tied in to make a nice development; that
development was not going back to grid system; that he
would work with the developer on landscaping the
Stokesbury Lateral.
d. Douglas Miller testified that there was an invasion of
privacy with this development; that he likes the berm
idea and want a buffer.
e. Dick Packinham testified that there needs to be a 20 foot
high berm and fence; that he does not like the project.
f. William Ball testified that he wants a 6 foot berm with
a fence on top of that.
g. Helen Sharp testified that the school district needed
help by not developing; that she had a question on the
traffic study; that there were problems with water
already; that there was a high water table.
h. Bert Borup testified that the access was bad; that the
time was not right for this subdivision; that he owns
property to the north; that this development was
premature; that he had problems with using a lift
station. He later testified about irrigation and again
that the time was not right for this development.
i. Vern Alleman testified that he questioned a temporary
lift station; he wanted to know what the time limit on a
temporary lift station was and he wondered what it did to
the trunk line; that he had questions on bonding and
whose obligation it was to maintain the lift station; and
that bonding should be required.
j. Dale Sharp testified that there needs to be a berm and
fence that people should be kept out and away from the
lateral road.
12. That comments were received from the City Engineer, City
Planning Director, Police Department, Fire Department, Meridian
School District, Ada County Highway District, Ada County /street
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Name Committee, Central District Health Department, Nampa &
Meridian Irrigation District, Idaho Power and U. S. West and they
are incorporated herein as if set forth in full by this reference.
13. That the City Engineer, Gary Smith, and his Assistant,
Bruce Freckleton commented that the high seasonal ground water
needs to be determined; that the ditches need to be tiled;
coordinate the placement of fire hydrants with the water
department; existing domestic wells and septic systems will have to
be removed; that restrictive covenants need to b submitted; and
other comments. Additionally the Planning Director, Shari Stiles,
submitted comment that a variance was required on the length of the
cul-de-sac and for block lengths; that perimeter fencing needed to
be installed; and, amongst other comments, stated that the
Applicant should receive a Mayoral commendation for offering to
provide and develop park space.
14. The Ada County Highway District commented that this
project is of sufficient size, and/or is expected to generate
traffic impacts such that the District requests deferral of the
public hearing until the required traffic study has been approved
by the District.
15. The Central District Health Department commented that
this an area of high seasonal ground water at about five feet below
grade; that they recommend using a storm water management system
that will not degrade water quality.
16. That the Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District commented
that the Stokesberry Lateral crosses along the north boundary of
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the project, that the right-of-way is 40 feet, and that it was
recommended that irrigation water be made available to the
development.
17. That in the Rural Area section of the Comprehensive Plan,
Land Use, Rural Areas, Section 6.3, it does state that land in
agricultural activity should so remain in agricultural activity
until urban services can be provided.
18. That Meridian has, and is, experiencing a population
increase; that there are pressures on land previously used for
agricultural uses to be developed into residential subdivision
lots.
19. That the property can be physically serviced with City
water and sewer.
20. That the R-4, Residential District is described in the
Zoning Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 3 as follows:
(R-4) Low Density Residential District: Only Single Family
Dwellings shall be permitted and no conditional uses shall be
permitted except for Planned Residential Development and
public schools. The purpose of the (R-4) District is to
permit the establishment of low density single-family
dwellings, and to delienate those areas where predominately
residential development has, or is likely to occur in accord
with the Comprehensive Plan of the City, and to protect the
integrity of residential areas by prohibiting the intrusion of
incompatible non-residential uses. The (R-4) District allows
for a maximum of four (4) dwelling units per acre and requires
connection to the Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the
City of Meridian;
that the R-4 zoning district requires a minimum of 1,400 square
feet to be included in detached houses in that zone; that the
Applicant is planning detached single family houses and has stated
that the R-4 requirements of 1,400 square foot homes and 8,000
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square foot lots would be met.
21. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Residential Policies, 2.1U states as follows:
"Support a variety of residential categories (urban, rural,
single-family, multi -family, town houses, apartments,
condominiums, etc.) for the purpose of providing the City with
range of affordable housing opportunities."
and states under 2.5U as follows:
"Encourage compatible infill development which will improve
existing neighborhoods."
22. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Rural Areas, 6.3 c., it states as follows:
"Within the Urban Service Planning Area development may occur
in densities as low as 3 dwellings per acre if physical
connection is made to existing City of Meridian water and
sewer service and the property is platted and subdivided .
23. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Rural Areas, 6.4, it states as follows:
"Residential development is allowed in the rural area provided
that said development does not exceed the Rural Residential
Agricultural density, unless it is inside the Urban Service
Planning Area and City sewer and water is provided, then Low,
Medium and High density residential may be considered. All
residential development must also comply with the other
appropriate sections of this plan."
24. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Housing,
Housing Policies, at page 66, it states as follows:
"1.1 The City of Meridian intends to provide for a wide
diversity of housing types (single-family, modular, mobile
homes, multi -family, town houses arrangements), . . ."
"1.3 An open housing market for all persons, regardless of
race, sex, age, religion or ethnic background."
"1.4 The development of housing for all income groups close
to employment and shopping centers should be encouraged."
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25. That there is a population influx into the City of
Meridian at the present time which has been going on for some time
and is likely to continue; that the land is relatively close to
Meridian and economic conditions are making it difficult to
continue farming in the area.
26. That in prior requests for annexation and zoning in this
area the previous Zoning Administrator has commented that
annexation could be conditioned on a development agreement
including an impact fee to help acquire a future school or park
site to serve the area and that annexations should be subject to
impact fees for park, police, and fire services as determined by
the city and designated in an approved development agreement; that
such comment is equally applicable to this Application.
27. That in 1992 the Idaho State Legislature passed
amendments to the Local Planning Act, which in 67-6513 Idaho Code,
relating to subdivision ordinances, states as follows:
"Each such ordinance may provide for mitigation of the effects
of subdivision development on the ability of political
subdivisions of the state, including school districts, to
deliver services without compromising quality of service
delivery to current residents or imposing substantial
additional costs upon current residents to accommodate the
subdivision.";
that the City of Meridian is concerned with the increase in
population that is occurring and with its impact on the City being
able to provide fire, police, emergency health care, water, sewer,
parks and recreation services to its current residents and to those
moving into the City; the City is also concerned that the increase
in population is burdening the schools of the Meridian School
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District which provide school service to current and future
residents of the City; that the City knows that the increase in
population does not sufficiently increase the tax base to offset
the cost of providing fire, police, emergency health care, water,
sewer, parks and recreation services; and the City knows that the
increase in population does not provide sufficient tax base to
provide for school services to current and future students.
28. That pursuant to the instruction, guidance, and direction
of the Idaho State Legislature, the City may impose either a
development fee or a transfer fee on residential property, which,
if possible, would be retroactive and apply to all residential lots
in the City because of the imperilment to the health, welfare, and
safety of the citizens of the City of Meridian.
29. That Section 11-9-605 C states as follows:
"Right-of-way for pedestrian walkways in the middle of long
blocks may be required where necessary to obtain convenient
pedestrian circulation to schools, parks or shopping areas;
the pedestrian easement shall be at least ten feet (101)
wide."
30. That Section 11-9-605 G 1. states as follows:
"Planting strips shall be required to be placed next to
incompatible features such as highways, railroads, commercial
or industrial uses to screen the view from residential
properties. Such screening shall be a minimum of twenty feet
(201) wide, and shall not be a part of the normal street right
of way or utility easement."
31. That Section 11-9-605 H 2. states as follows:
"Existing natural features which add value to residential
development and enhance the attractiveness of the community
(such as trees, watercourses, historic spots and similar
irreplaceable amenities) shall be preserved in the design of
the subdivision;"
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32. That Section 11-9-605 K states as follows:
"The extent and location of lands designed for linear open
space corridors should be determined by natural features and,
to lesser extent, by man-made features such as utility
easements, transportation rights of way or water rights of
way. Landscaping, screening or lineal open space corridors
may be required for the protection of residential properties
from adjacent arterial streets, waterways, railroad rights of
way or other features. As improved areas (landscaped), semi -
improved areas (a landscaped pathway only), or unimproved
areas (left in a natural state), linear open space corridors
serve:
1. To preserve openness;
2. To interconnect park and open space systems within rights
of way for trails, walkways, bicycle ways;
3. To play a major role in conserving area scenic and
natural value, especially waterways, drainages and
natural habitat;
4. To buffer more intensive adjacent urban land uses;
5. To enhance local identification within the area due to
the internal linkages; and
6. To link residential neighborhoods, park areas and
recreation facilities."
33. That Section 11-9-605 L states as follows:
Bicycle and pedestrian pathways shall be encouraged within new
developments as part of the public right of way or as separate
easements so that an alternate transportation system (which is
distinct and separate from the automobile) can be provided
throughout the City Urban Service Planning Area. The
Commission and Planning and Zoning Commission shall consider
the Bicycle -Pedestrian Design Manual for Ada County (as
prepared by Ada County Highway District) when reviewing
bicycle and pedestrian pathway provisions within developments.
34. That proper notice was given as required by law and all
procedures before the Planning and Zoning Commission were given and
followed.
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CONCLUSIONS
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met, including the mailing of notice to owners of property
within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's
property.
2. That the City of Meridian has authority to annex land
pursuant to 50-222, Idaho Code, and Section 11-2-417 of the Revised
and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian; that exercise of
the City's annexation authority is a Legislative function.
3. That the Planning and Zoning Commission has judged this
annexation and zoning application under Section 50-222, Idaho Code,
Title 67, Chapter 65, Idaho Code, the Meridian City Ordinances, the
Meridian Comprehensive Plan, as amended, and the record submitted
to it and things of which it can take judicial notice.
4. That all notice and hearing requirements set forth in
Title 67, Chapter 65, Idaho Code, and the Ordinances of the City of
Meridian have been complied with.
5. That the Commission may take judicial notice of
government ordinances, and policies, and of actual conditions
existing within the City and State.
6. That the land within the annexation is contiguous to the
present City limits of the City of Meridian, and the annexation
would not be a shoestring annexation.
7. That the annexation application has been initiated by the
Applicant, which is the titled owner, and the annexation is not
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upon the initiation of the City of Meridian.
8. That since the annexation and zoning of land is a
legislative function, the City has authority to place conditions
upon the annexation of land. Burt vs. The City of Idaho Falls. 105
Idaho 65, 665 P.D 1075 (1983).
9. That the development of annexed land must meet and comply
with the Ordinances of the City of Meridian and in particular
Section 11-9-616, which pertains to development time schedules and
requirements, Section 11-9-605 M., which pertains to the tiling of
ditches and water ways, and Section 11-9-606 B 14, which pertains
to pressurized irrigation; that the Applicant will be required to
connect to Meridian water and sewer; that the development of the
property shall be subject to and controlled by the Subdivision and
Development Ordinance; that, as a condition of annexation the
Applicant shall be required to enter into a development agreement
as authorized by 11-2-416 L and 11-2-417 D; that the development
agreement shall address the inclusion into the subdivision of the
requirements of 11-9-605 C, G., B 2, K, L, 11-9-606 B. 14.,
pressurized irrigation; that the development agreement shall, as a
condition of annexation, require that the Applicant, or if
required, any assigns, heirs, executors or personal
representatives, pay, when required, any development fee or
transfer fee adopted by the City; that there shall be no annexation
until the requirements of this paragraph are met or, if necessary,
the property shall be subject to de -annexation and loss of City
services, if the requirements of this paragraph are not met.
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10. That the Applicant's property is in compliance with the
Comprehensive Plan, and therefore the annexation and zoning
Application would be in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan.
11. That the requirements of the Meridian City Engineer, and
of the Ada County Highway District, Nampa & Meridian Irrigation
District, Meridian Fire and Police Departments, and the comments of
the Meridian Planning Director, shall be met and addressed in a
development Agreement.
12. That all ditches, canals, and waterways shall be tiled,
if annexed, as a condition of annexation and if not so tiled the
property shall be subject to de -annexation; that the Applicant
shall be required to install a pressurized irrigation system, and
if not so done the property shall be subject to de -annexation.
13. That the development of R-4 as suggested by the Applicant
is not compatible to the homes in Carol Subdivision; that R-4
development would be compatible with the lots and homes in Kearney
Subdivision, Dove Meadows, and the other R-8 subdivisions in the
area; that some type of transition development between Carol
Subdivision and the lots along Wingate Lane, and this property's
proposed northern lots, needs to be put forth for the development
of the property.
14. That if the Applicant does not request that transition
zoning be applied to the land and submit a plat application showing
this, it is concluded that the property should not be annexed; that
it is of great concern to the Commission that the lots along Carol
Subdivision and Wingate Lane are protected; that the matter should
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be tabled until a new subdivision application is submitted; that as
a condition of annexation, if ultimately annexed, it is concluded
that more distance, berming and/or screening should be placed
between the two subdivisions and this proposed subdivision and the
lots fronting Wingate Lane which may abut this land.
15. That it is further concluded that the access for Don
Bryan, or any other water user, to his headgates or water shall not
be impeded.
16. That all ditches, canals, and waterways required to be
tiled by City Ordinance shall be tiled as a condition of
annexation, when annexed, and if not so tiled the property shall be
subject to de -annexation.
17. With compliance of the conditions contained herein, the
annexation and eventual new plat to meet the transition between
acre or more lots and R-4 would be in the best interest of the City
of Meridian.
18. Therefore, based on the Application, the testimony and
evidence, the Findings of Fact and Conclusions, and the Ordinances
of the City of Meridian, it is ultimately concluded that
Applicant's application for annexation and zoning should be tabled
until a new plat is submitted which addresses transition zoning;
that any new subdivision plat must be compatible with Carol
Subdivision and the lots along Wingate Lane. The zoning should
gradually go from the acre lots of Carol Subdivision to the R-4
lots in the southern and western ends of this subdivision; that the
conditions would be those stated above if the property is
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eventually annexed and zoned; that the annexation and development
then would be more of an orderly and reasonable development; that
the property shall be subject to de -annexation if the requirements
of these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law are not met.
19. That proper and adequate access to the property is of
concern to the Commission and should be addressed in the new plat.
20. With compliance of the conditions contained herein, the
annexation and eventual new plat to meet the transition between
acre or more lots and the R-4 lots, would be in the best interest
of the City of Meridian, but it should be tabled to allow the
Applicant time to submit another plat.
21. That if these conditions of approval are not met the
property should not annexed.
22. That these conditions shall run with the land and bind
the applicant and its assigns.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
ROLL CALL
HEPPER
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COMMISSIONER SHEARER
ALIDJANI
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER)
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RECOMMENDATION
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The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
that the Application for annexation and zoning be tabled; if the
Applicant shall not meet these conditions, the Application shall be
denied.
MOTION:
APPROVED:/ DISAPPROVED:
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• • ORIGINAL
BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
HOMAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP
GREENHAVEN ESTATES
ANNEXATION AND ZONING
PORTION OF THE N 1/2 NE 1/4 SE SECTION 1, T.3N., R.1E
MERIDIAN. IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled annexation and zoning application having
come on for consideration on October 11, 1994, at the hour of 7:30
o'clock p.m. on said date, at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho
Street, Meridian, Idaho, and the Council having heard and taken
oral and written testimony and the Applicant not appearing but
through Gary Lee, Professional Engineer, and having duly considered
the matter, the Planning and Zoning Commission makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That notice of public hearing on the annexation and zoning
was published for two (2) consecutive weeks prior to the said
public hearing scheduled for October 11, 1994, the first
publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing;
that the matter was duly considered at the October 11, 1994,
hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to express
comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were
available to newspaper, radio and television stations;
2. That the property included in the application for
annexation and zoning is described in the application, and by this
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reference is incorporated herein; that the property is
approximately 14.88 acres in size; it is on the west side of
Meridian Road between Cherry Lane Road and Ustick Road; that it is
adjacent to Lansbury Subdivision; Strasser Farm Subdivision lies to
the north.
3. That the property is presently zoned by the county RT
(Rural Transition) and the proposed use would be for R-4
Residential type development.
4. The general area surrounding the property is used
agriculturally and residentially.
5. That the property is adjacent and abutting to the present
City limits.
6. The Applicant is not the owner of record of the property,
but he has submitted the consent of the titled owners, John W. and
Candy J. Homan and Donald F. and Rae Jean Homan.
7. That the property included in the annexation and zoning
application is within the Area of Impact of the City of Meridian.
8. That the parcel of ground is included within the Meridian
Urban Service Planning Area as the Urban Service Planning Area is
defined in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan.
9. That the Application requests that the parcel be annexed
and zoned R-4 Residential; that the present use of the property is
for two residences and for limited agriculture; that the applicant
indicated that the intended development of the property is for R-4
Residential development with houses containing a minimum of 1,400
square feet; that the Applicant has submitted a preliminary plat.
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10. That Gary Lee stated at the hearing that the density
would be 2.7 dwellings units per acre, that there would be a 20
foot landscaped buffer along Meridian Road, that the lots would be
approximately 13,000 square feet, that the R-4 requirements would
be met, the streets would meet ACHD requirements, that they would
request a variance on the cul-de-sac length, that the Onweiler
ditch would be used for pressurized irrigation, that the road
medium would be landscaped, that the homes would be from 1,400 to
1,800 square feet, and that the City Engineer's comments would be
met.
11. It is also stated in the Application that Onweiler canal
and other irrigation ditches would be tiled to continue delivery of
irrigation water and that other smaller irrigation and drainage
ditches that deliver water to this property only would be
abandoned; that pressurized irrigation would be constructed to each
lot and a pumping station tentatively planned to be located at the
northeast corner of the development, which irrigation system would
be operated by Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District; that access to
the sewer line for purposes of maintenance, is still being worked
out with the owner of the property, Mr. Bob Flaten and the
developer of Lansbury Lane Subdivision, Mr. Cris Williams.
12. There were property owners in the immediate area that
testified objecting to the annexation and zoning of the parcel:
a. Rich and Gloria Fern testified that their concerns have
to do with the traffic constantly being in front of their
property once the development is finished with the flow
coming in and out of the complex; that the Ada County
Highway District and Shari Stiles have commented there
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are an estimated 400 vehicle trips per day that will take
place; that vehicle lights will be hitting directly onto
their duplex and as the vehicles turn the lights will be
crossing their entire residence; that street lighting
won't be offensive if proposed; that a concern over their
tenants backing out of their residences onto Greenhaven
Estates Street; that adequate dumpsters be made available
at the construction site to care for blowing debris and
that the developer put sound walls and landscape barriers
to curtail some of the noise and lessen the visual impact
of headlights to preserve privacy.
b. Dan Sweet testified regarding the size of the house the
developer plans for this development; that the property
north of this proposed development has houses in the 2600
square foot range; that when the zoning starts to go down
to R-4 the size and price of the homes in the area
diminish; that the Commission stick with not real
expensive developments and little so so developments;
that he too, is concerned about the increase of traffic.
C. That John Sanford testified that his 7 1/2 acres east of
Vendable Lane, which is a private, deeded lane, is
landlocked; that he needs access; that he was told
Vendable Lane would be made a through street when the
Waterbury Park No. 5 was being developed; that the
engineers for Waterbury Park No. 5 development, Brian
Smith, Hubble Engineering, told him they were going to
make a stipulation to cross the slough onto Mr. Sanford's
property so he would have access into Waterbury No. 5;
that now Mr. Smith says this is not true, that they did
away with that; that kids are already coming from
Lansbury Subdivision chasing his horses which are across
the ditch; that Vendable Lane needs to be a public
street; that the Ada County Highway District said they
figured he would never want access for reasons of
development because of the large arena he has for cutting
horses; that Mr. Sanford never received notice of
Waterbury 5 Subdivision being finally approved and that
they are not going to go across the canal like Mr.
Sanford was earlier told.
d. That Joe Simunich testified as to the irrigation and the
Onweiler Lateral; that on the plat for Lansbury
Subdivision the covenants say no irrigation water will be
provided to the lots; that now this developer is
scheduling pressurized irrigation; that those established
in the area are not likely to give up their water rights;
that for years there has been a rotation on that lateral;
that the question arises as to how the developer plans to
water all these proposed lots on a 12 hour rotation when
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water only comes 12 hours out of every 8 days; that when
these subdivisions come up, we in the area get a product
or ditch or something that is unsatisfactory like fences
built right on top of the irrigation line causing people
not to have access to their head gates.
e. Chris Williams testified that he liked the density; that
he desire restriction of an entrance which included a
brick wall, islands in the roadway, that the frontage
setbacks be alternated, that the homes should be a
minimum of 1,600 square feet.
13. That the property is in an area marked on the Generalized
Land Use Map of the Meridian Comprehensive Plan as a single family
residential area; that in the Comprehensive Plan property inside
the Urban Service Planning Area may be developed at greater
densities than one dwelling unit per acre.
14. That in the Rural Area section of the Comprehensive Plan,
Land Use, Rural Areas, Section 6.3, it does state that land in
agricultural activity should so remain in agricultural activity
until urban services can be provided.
15. That Meridian has, and is, experiencing a population
increase; that there are pressures on land previously used for
agricultural uses to be developed into residential subdivision
lots.
16. That the property can be physically serviced with City
water and sewer if the Applicant extends the lines.
17. Meridian Police Department, Meridian Fire Department,
Meridian City Engineer, Meridian School District, the Central
District Health Department, Ada County Highway District, Ada County
Street Name Committee, Idaho Power, U. S. West and Nampa Meridian
Irrigation District did submit comments and such are incorporated
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herein as if set forth in full.
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That the Meridian Planning
Director did submit comments among which were that a 20 foot
minimum landscape strip is required along Meridian Road outside of
the proposed right-of-way, all ditches are to be tiled and
approval obtained of Nampa -Meridian Irrigation District obtained
prior to applying for building permits, that landscaped islands
should be placed on the roadway centerline, that a variance was
needed for the length of the cul-de-sac, that the property to the
south has a minimum house size of 1,700 square feet, that perimeter
fencing is to be installed, and a development agreement is required
as a condition of annexation; that the City Engineer commented that
the legal description needs to be resubmitted pursuant to
Resolution 158, that the seasonal high ground water elevation needs
to be determined and a profile of the sub -surface soil conditions
was needed, that the irrigation ditches crossing the parcel need to
be tiled, that a master street drainage plan needed to be
submitted, and that the fire hydrant placement needed to be
coordinated with the Water Works Department.
18. It is particularly noted that the Ada County Highway
District , in its site specific requirements, stated that the stub
street shown running to the north should run to the west.
19. That the R-4, Residential District is described in the
Zoning Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 3 as follows:
1R-41 Low Density Residential District: Only Single Family
Dwellings shall be permitted and no conditional uses shall be
permitted except for Planned Residential Development and
public schools. The purpose of the (R-4) District is to
permit the establishment of low density single-family
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dwellings, and to delineate those areas where predominately
residential development has, or is likely to occur in accord
with the Comprehensive Plan of the City, and to protect the
integrity of residential areas by prohibiting the intrusion of
incompatible non-residential uses. The (R-4) District allows
for a maximum of four (4) dwelling units per acre and requires
connection to the Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the
City of Meridian.
that the R-4 zoning district requires a minimum of 1,400 square
feet to be included in houses in that zone; that the Applicant's
representative stated that the subdivision applied for would comply
with the R-4 requirements.
20. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Residential Policies, 2.1U states as follows:
"Support a variety of residential categories (urban, rural,
single-family, multi -family, town houses, apartments,
condominiums, etc.) for the purpose of providing the City with
a range of affordable housing opportunities."
21. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Rural Areas, 6.3 c., it states as follows:
"Within the Urban Service Planning Area development may occur
in densities as low as 3 dwellings per acre if physical
connection is made to existing City of Meridian water and
sewer service and the property is platted and subdivided11
.
22. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Rural Areas, 6.4, it states as follows:
"Residential development is allowed in the rural area provided
that said development does not exceed the Rural Residential
Agricultural density, unless it is inside the Urban Service
Planning Area and City sewer and water is provided, then Low,
Medium and High density residential may be considered. All
residential development must also comply with the other
appropriate sections of this plan."
23. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Housing,
Housing Policies, at page 66, it states as follows:
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111.1 The City of Meridian intends to provide for a wide
diversity of housing types (single-family, modular, mobile
homes, multi -family, town houses arrangements), . . ."
"1.3 An open housing market for all persons, regardless of
race, sex, age, religion or ethnic background."
"1.4 The development of housing for all income groups close
to employment and shopping centers should be encouraged."
24. That there is a population influx into the City of
Meridian at the present time which has been going on for some time
and is likely to continue; that the land is relatively close to
Meridian and economic conditions are making it difficult to
continue farming in the area.
25. That in 1992 the Idaho State Legislature passed
amendments to the Local Planning Act, which in 67-6513 Idaho Code,
relating to subdivision ordinances, states as follows:
"Each such ordinance may provide for mitigation of the effects
of subdivision development on the ability of political
subdivisions of the state, including school districts, to
deliver services without compromising quality of service
delivery to current residents or imposing substantial
additional costs upon current residents to accommodate the
subdivision.";
that the City of Meridian is concerned with the increase in
population that is occurring and with its impact on the City being
able to provide fire, police, emergency health care, water, sewer,
parks and recreation services to its current residents and to those
moving into the City; the City is also concerned that the increase
in population is burdening the schools of the Meridian School
District which provide school service to current and future
residents of the City; that the City knows that the increase in
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population does not sufficiently increase the tax base to offset
the cost of providing fire, police, emergency health care, water,
sewer, parks and recreation services; and the City knows that the
increase in population does not provide sufficient tax base to
provide for school services to current and future students.
26. That pursuant to the instruction, guidance, and direction
of the Idaho State Legislature, the City may impose either a
development fee or a transfer fee on residential property, which,
if possible, would be retroactive and apply to all residential lots
in the City because of the imperilment to the health, welfare, and
safety of the citizens of the City of Meridian.
27. That Section 11-9-605 C states as follows:
"Right-of-way for pedestrian walkways in the middle of long
blocks may be required where necessary to obtain convenient
pedestrian circulation to schools, parks or shopping areas;
the pedestrian easement shall be at least ten feet (101)
wide."
28. That Section 11-9-605 G 1. states as follows:
"Planting strips shall be required to be placed next to
incompatible features such as highways, railroads, commercial
or industrial uses to screen the view from residential
properties. Such screening shall be a minimum of twenty feet
(201) wide, and shall not be a part of the normal street right
of way or utility easement."
29. That Section 11-9-605 H 2. states as follows:
"Existing natural features which add value to residential
development and enhance the attractiveness of the community
(such as trees, watercourses, historic spots and similar
irreplaceable amenities) shall be preserved in the design of
the subdivision;"
30. That Section 11-9-605 K states as follows:
"The extent and location of lands designed for linear open
space corridors should be determined by natural features and,
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to lesser extent, by man-made features such as utility
easements, transportation rights of way or water rights of
way. Landscaping, screening or lineal open space corridors
may be required for the protection of residential properties
from adjacent arterial streets, waterways, railroad rights of
way or other features. As improved areas (landscaped), semi -
improved areas (a landscaped pathway only), or unimproved
areas (left in a natural state), linear open space corridors
serve:
1. To preserve openness;
2. To interconnect park and open space systems within rights
of way for trails, walkways, bicycle ways;
3. To play a major role in conserving area scenic and
natural value, especially waterways, drainages and
natural habitat;
4. To buffer more intensive adjacent urban land uses;
5. To enhance local identification within the area due to
the internal linkages; and
6. To link residential neighborhoods, park areas and
recreation facilities."
31. That Section 11-9-605 L states as follows:
Bicycle and pedestrian pathways shall be encouraged within new
developments as part of the public right of way or as separate
easements so that an alternate transportation system (which is
distinct and separate from the automobile) can be provided
throughout the City Urban Service Planning Area. The
Commission and Council shall consider the Bicycle -Pedestrian
Design Manual for Ada County (as prepared by Ada County
Highway District) when reviewing bicycle and pedestrian
pathway provisions within developments.
32. That proper notice was given as required by law and all
procedures before the Commission were given and followed.
CONCLUSIONS
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met; including the mailing of notice to owners of property
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within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's
property.
2. That the City of Meridian has authority to annex land
pursuant to 50-222, Idaho Code, and Section 11-2-417 of the Revised
and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian; that exercise of
the City's annexation authority is a Legislative function.
3. That the CITY COUNCIL has judged this annexation and
zoning application under Section 50-222, Idaho Code, Title 67,
Chapter 65, Idaho Code, the Meridian City Ordinances, the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan, as amended, and the record submitted to it and
things of which it can take judicial notice.
4. That all notice and hearing requirements set forth in
Title 67, Chapter 65, Idaho Code, and the Ordinances of the City of
Meridian have been complied with.
5. That the Commission may take judicial notice of
government ordinances, and policies, and of actual conditions
existing within the City and State.
6. That the land within the proposed annexation is
contiguous to the present City limits of the City of Meridian, and
the annexation would not be a shoestring annexation.
7. That the annexation application has been initiated by the
Applicant, The Development Group, and the annexation is not upon
the initiation of the City of Meridian, but is at the request of
the Applicant.
8. That since the annexation and zoning of land is a
legislative function, the City has authority to place conditions
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upon the annexation of land. Burt vs. The City of Idaho Falls, 105
Idaho 65, 665 P.D 1075 (1983).
9. That the development of annexed land must meet and comply
with the Ordinances of the City of Meridian and in particular
Section 11-9-616 which pertains to development time schedules and
requirements, 11-9-605 M, Piping of Ditches, and Section 11-9-606
B 14., which pertains to pressurized irrigation; that the Applicant
will be required to connect to Meridian water and sewer; that the
development of the property shall be subject to and controlled by
the Subdivision and Development Ordinance; that, as a condition of
annexation the Applicant shall be required to enter into a
development agreement as authorized by 11-2-416 L and 11-2-417 D;
that the development agreement shall address the inclusion into the
subdivision of the requirements of 11-9-605 C, G., H 2, K, L and
prior comments of the previous Planning Director, Wayne Forrey,
relating to the lack of adequate recreation facilities and that
land set aside for a future park would be desirable, that the City
is in need of land set -asides for future public service use; that
the development agreement shall, as a condition of annexation,
require that the Applicant, or if required, any assigns, heirs,
executors or personal representatives, pay, when required, any
development fee or transfer fee adopted by the City; that there
shall be no annexation until the requirements of this paragraph are
met or, if necessary, the property shall be subject to de -
annexation and loss of City services, if the requirements of this
paragraph are not met.
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10. That proper and adequate access to the property is
available and will have to be maintained; that it is concluded that
as a condition of annexation, access to the property now owned by
John Sanford shall be provided; that the access shall be sufficient
to meet Ada County Highway District street requirements.
11. That since the Applicant's property is in an area marked
as a single family residential area, the annexation and zoning
Application is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan and does
not conflict with the Rural Areas policies; but the land does
border rural farms or ranches and those farms and ranches shall be
buffered and the subdivision covenants shall let the home owners in
the proposed subdivision know that the farms and ranches are there
and that agricultural uses will, or may, be continued; that this
matter shall be addressed in the development agreement.
12. Therefore, based on the Application, the testimony and
evidence, the Findings of Fact and Conclusions, and the Ordinances
of the City of Meridian it is ultimately concluded that Applicant's
property should be annexed and zoned R-4; that the conditions
should be those stated above; that such annexation would be orderly
development and reasonable if the conditions are met; that the
property shall be subject to de -annexation if the requirements of
these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law are not met.
13. That all ditches, canals, and waterways required to be
tiled by City Ordinance shall be tiled as a condition of annexation
and if not so tiled the property shall be subject to de -annexation.
14. With compliance of the conditions contained herein, the
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annexation and zoning of R-4, Residential would be in the best
interest of the City of Meridian.
15. Since the property to the north and to the south, as
shown from the testimony of Dan Swwet and Chris Williams, have
homes of at least 1,600 square feet, it is concluded that the
minimum size house that could be built in this subdivision should
be 1,600 square feet. (Added to Conclusions pursuant to motion
made and passed by the Commission on November 9, 1994.)
16. That if the conditions of approval are not met the
property shall be subject to de -annexation.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
ROLL CALL
HEPPER
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COMMISSIONER SHEARER
COMMISSIONER ALIDJANI
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER)
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VOTED
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The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the Meridian City Council that the property be annexed and zoned
R-4 Residential with the conditions set forth in the Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law, including that the minimum size houses
that could be built in this subdivision should be 1,600 square
feet, and that the Applicant and owners be specifically required to
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tile all ditches, canals and waterways, and install a pressurized
irrigation system, as conditions of annexation, and that the
Applicant meet all of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian,
specifically including the development time requirements and enter
into the required development agreement, and that if the conditions
are not met that the property be de -annexed.
MOTION:
APPROVED: DISAPPROVED:
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• • ORIGINAL
BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
DIANE AND ROBERT LANG
REZONE APPLICATION
ANTIQUE STORE
1115 E. 1ST STREET
MERIDIAN, IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled matter having come on for public hearing
October 11, 1994, at the hour of 7:30 o'clock p.m., Commissioner
Johnson stepped down due to potential conflict of interest, the
Petitioner appearing before the Planning and Zoning Commission of
the City of Meridian having duly considered the evidence and the
matter, makes the following Findings of Fact and Conclusions:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That a notice of a public hearing on the Rezone
Application was published for two (2) consecutive weeks prior to
the said public hearing scheduled for October 11, 1994, the first
publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing;
that the matter was duly considered at the October 11, 1994,
hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to express
comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were
available to newspaper, radio and television stations.
2. That this property is located within the City of Meridian
and the titled owners are Rod R. and LaVerne W. Schoen who have
consented to the rezone of the property; the property is described
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in the application which description is incorporated herein; that
the property is presently zoned R-15 Residential; the area in which
Applicant's property is located is developed as a residential area
but several of the properties have been rezoned to commercial.
3. That the Applicants propose to have the property zoned
(C -C) Community Commercial or (C -G) General Retail and Service
Commercial.
4. That the C -C District is described in the Zoning
Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 9. as follows:
(C -C) Community Business District: The
purpose of the (C -C) District is to permit the
establishment of general business uses that
are of a larger scale than a neighborhood
business, and to encourage the development of
modern shopping centers with adequate off-
street parking facilities, and associated site
amenities to serve area residents and
employees; to prohibit strip commercial
development and encourage the clustering of
commercial enterprises. All such districts
shall have direct access to a transportation
arterial and collector and be connected to the
Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the City
of Meridian.
5. That the C -G District is described in the Zoning
Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 9. as follows:
(C -G) GENERAL RETAIL AND SERVICE COMMERCIAL:
The purpose of the (C -G) District is to
provide for commercial uses which are
customarily operated entirely or almost
entirely within a building; to provide for a
review of the impact of proposed commercial
uses which are auto and service oriented and
are located in close proximity to major
highway or arterial streets; to fulfill the
need of travel -related services as well as
retail sales for the transient and permanent
motoring public. All such districts shall be
connected to the Municipal Water and Sewer
systems of the City of Meridian, and shall not
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constitute strip commercial development and
encourage clustering of commercial
development.
6. That the uses of the properties surrounding the subject
property are operating businesses; two doors to the south of the
subject property is Cottage Expressions, Karate training is three
doors north and the U. S. Post office is across the street.
7. That there was no testimony at the hearing objecting to
the Application; that the Applicant's representative, Roen Wilson,
testified that the Lang's desire to use the property for an antique
and collectibles shop.
8. That sewer and water is available and are connected to
the property, but the use may require additional charges and fees.
9. That Planning & Zoning Administrator, Shari Stiles,
commented that this rezone complies with the goals of the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan; that the Applicant needs to submit site plan
showing landscaping, parking drainage calculations, etc., in
accordance with City ordinances and standards prior to opening;
that the parking area cannot be closer than four (4) feet to the
adjacent alley or street right-of-way; that the Ada County Highway
District commented and are incorporated herein; that comments may
be submitted by the City Engineer, Meridian Sewer Department and
other agencies and those comments will be incorporated herein as if
set forth in herein.
10. That the property fronts on East First Street which is a
minor arterial.
11. That proper notice has been given as required by law and
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all procedures before the Planning and Zoning Commission have been
followed.
CONCLUSIONS
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met including the mailing of notice to owners of property
within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicants,
property.
2. That the City has the authority to take judicial notice
of its own ordinances, other governmental statues and ordinances,
and of actual conditions existing within the City and state.
3. That the City of Meridian has authority to place
conditions upon granting a zoning amendment.
4. That the City has judged this Application for a zoning
amendment upon the basis of guidelines contained in Section 11-2-
416 of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian
and upon the basis of the Local Planning Act of 1975, Title 67
Chapter 65, Idaho Code, the Comprehensive Plan of the City of
Meridian, and the record submitted to it and the things of which it
can take judicial notice.
5. That 11-2-416 (K) of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances
of the City of Meridian sets forth standards under which the City
shall review applications for zoning amendments; that upon a review
of those requirements and a review of the facts presented and
conditions of the area, the Planning and Zoning Commission
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specifically concludes as follows:
(a) The property is in an area where commercial and
office uses are likely to desire to locate and many of
the properties in the area have been rezoned to
commercial. The new zoning should be harmonious with
and in accordance with the Comprehensive Plan and no
Comprehensive Plan amendment is required.
(b) The area is on the main street of Meridian where
substantial commercial property is located. A rezone of
the subject property is in line with that use.
(c) The area around the proposed zoning amendment is
developed in a residential fashion but has had several
properties rezoned. The new zoning of C -C Commercial
should not be contrary to the other uses in the area.
(d) There has been a change in the area which dictates
that the property should be rezoned and the area is very
likely to be developed in an office or commercial
fashion.
(e) That the property is designed and constructed to be
harmonious with the surrounding area.
(f) Commercial uses should not be hazardous or
disturbing to the existing or future uses of the
neighborhood.
(g) The property will be able to be adequately served
with public facilities, and connection to municipal
sewer and water is required.
(h) Commercial uses should not create excessive
additional requirements at public cost for public
facilities and services and would not be detrimental to
the economic welfare of the community.
(i) The proposed use should not involve any detrimental
activity to any person's property or the general
welfare.
(j) Development should not cause a significant increase
in vehicular traffic and should not interfere with
surrounding traffic patterns in that the property has
good street frontage.
(k) That this rezone will not result in the
destruction, loss or damage of any natural or scenic
feature of major importance.
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(1) The proposed zoning amendment is in the best
interest of City of Meridian.
6. It is further concluded that the comments,
recommendations and requirements of City of Meridian Departments
and other governmental agencies will have to be met and complied
with.
7. That any signs placed on the property shall meet the
Meridian Sign Ordinance and shall not be lighted so as to shine in
the eyes of vehieJee traveling on East First Street.
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8. That the Applicant and all users of the property shall
comply with all of the ordinances of the City of Meridian,
specifically including the water and sewer requirements, the Fire
and Life Safety codes, and the Uniform Building, Electrical, and
Plumbing Codes.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONER HEPPER
COMMISSIONER ROUNTREE
COMMISSIONER SHEARER
COMMISSIONER ALIDJANI
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER)
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VOTED3�e�: W"�(
VOTED
VOTED
VOTED
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DECISION AND
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the
Rezone requested by the Applicant for the property described in
the application with the conditions set forth in the Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law and that the property be required to
meet the comments of the Meridian Departments and the other
governmental agencies.
MOTION:
DISAPPROVED:
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BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
TACO BELL RESTAURANT
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
INTERSECTION OF MERIDIAN ROAD & EAST 1ST STREET
MERIDIAN, IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled matter having come on for public hearing
October 11, 1994, at the hour of 7:30 o'clock p.m., the Petitioner
appearing through the project's representative, Ron Thurber, the
Planning and Zoning Commission of the City of Meridian having duly
considered the evidence and the matter makes the following
Findings of Fact and Conclusions:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That a notice of a public hearing on the Conditional Use
Permit was published for two (2) consecutive weeks prior to the
said public hearing scheduled for October 11, 1994, the first
publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing;
that the matter was duly considered at the October 11, 1994,
hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to express
comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were
available to newspaper, radio and television stations.
2. That the property is located within the City of
Meridian; the property is described in the application which
description is incorporated herein.
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3. That the property is zoned C -G, General Service and
Retail Commercial, which requires a conditional use permit for a
drive through window facility which the application requests,
using loudspeakers.
4. That the C -G District is described in the Zoning
Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 9. as follows:
(C -G) GENERAL RETAIL AND SERVICE COMMERCIAL:
The purpose of the (C -G) District is to
provide for commercial uses which are
customarily operated entirely or almost
entirely within a building; to provide for a
review of the impact of proposed commercial
uses which are auto and service oriented and
are located in close proximity to major
highway or arterial streets; to fulfill the
need of travel -related services as well as
retail sales for the transient and permanent
motoring public. All such districts shall be
connected to the Municipal Water and Sewer
systems of the City of Meridian, and shall
not constitute strip commercial development
and encourage clustering of commercial
development.
5. That the use proposed by Applicant is a specifically
allowed conditional use in the Zoning Schedule of Use Control, 11-
2-409 B.
6. That the property is vacant and has no present use; that
the property to the southeast is the Kentucky Fried Chicken
Restaurant; that the property to the north is a vacant building
that has been used for truck sales and repair.
7. That the abutting properties are used for commercial
purposes.
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8. That proper notice has been given as required by law and
all procedures before the Planning and Zoning Commission have been
given and followed.
9. That sewer and water is available to the property, but
the property will have to comply with the commercial sewer and
water rates.
10. That the City Planning Director commented as to the City
Ordinance requiring 19' parking spaces including three handicapped
spaces visibly marked with an eight -foot access aisle; a 25'
driveway aisle, as well as ACHD right-of-way and entrance
corridors; five-foot (51) sidewalks are required; and
communications system volume must not impact adjoining properties
and encourages telephones rather than loudspeakers.
11. That the City Engineer did not file comments on the
Conditional Use Application, but if he does prior to the City
Council hearing they will be incorporated herein as if set forth
in full; that the Meridian Fire Department commented that all
codes, water and hydrant requirements will have to be met; the Ada
County Highway District submitted comments and are incorporated
herein; the Central District Health Department's comments refer to
stormwater management; that the Nampa & Meridian Irrigation
District submitted comments referring to surface drainage being
retained on site and recommending irrigation water be made
available to all developments within the District and the District
requires that a Land Use Change/Site Development application be
filed for review prior to final platting.
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12. That there was no testimony objecting to the
application.
CONCLUSIONS
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met including the mailing of notice to owners of property
within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's
property;
2. That the City of Meridian has authority to grant
conditional uses pursuant to 67-6512, Idaho Code, and, pursuant to
11-2-418 of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of
Meridian;
3. That the City of Meridian has authority to place
conditions on a conditional use permit and the use of the property
pursuant to 67-6512, Idaho Code, and pursuant to 11-2-418(D) of
the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian,
Idaho;
4. That 11-2-418(C) of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances
of the City of Meridian sets forth the standards under which the
Planning and Zoning Commission and the City Council shall review
applications for Conditional Use Permits; that upon a review of
those requirements and a review of the facts presented and the
conditions of the area, the Planning and Zoning Commission
concludes as follows:
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a. The use, would in fact, constitute a
conditional use and a conditional use permit
is required by ordinance.
b. The use should be harmonious with and in
accordance with the Comprehensive Plan but
the Zoning Ordinance requires a conditional
use permit to allow the use.
C. The use apparently would be designed and
constructed, to be harmonious in appearance
with the intended character of the general
vicinity.
d. That the use would not be hazardous nor
should it be disturbing to existing or future
neighboring uses.
e. The property has sewer and water service
available.
f. The use would not create excessive
additional requirements at public cost for
public facilities and services and the use
would not be detrimental to the economic
welfare of the community.
g. The use would not involve a use,
activity, process, material, equipment or
conditions of operation that would be
detrimental to person, property or the
general welfare by reason of excessive
production of traffic or noise.
h. That sufficient parking for the property
and the proposed use will be required.
i. The development and uses will not result
in the destruction, loss or damage of a
natural or scenic feature of major
importance.
5. That all ordinances of the City of Meridian must be
met, including but not limited to, the Uniform Building Code,
Uniform Fire Code, Uniform Plumbing Code, the Fire and Life Safety
Codes, all parking and landscaping requirements.
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APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONER HEPPER VOTED
COMMISSIONER ROUNTREE VOTED
COMMISSIONER SHEARER VOTED
COMMISSIONER ALIDJANI VOTE
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER) VOTED
DECISION AND RECOMMENDATION
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the
Conditional Use Permit requested by the Applicant for the property
described in the application with the conditions set forth in the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
MOTION:
APPROVED DISAPPROVED:
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BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
D & B SUPPLY COMPANY, INC.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NEB -i COMPANY
1885 EAST FAIRVIEW AVENUE
MERIDIAN. IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled conditional use permit application having
come on for consideration on October 11, 1994, at the hour of 7:30
o'clock p.m. on said date, at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho
Street, Meridian, Idaho, and the Planning and Zoning Commission
having heard and taken oral and written testimony and the Applicant
appearing through a representative, Dick Schrandt, and having duly
considered the matter, the Planning and Zoning Commission makes the
following Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That a notice of a public hearing on the Conditional Use
Permit was published for two (2) consecutive weeks prior to the
said public hearing scheduled for October 11, 1994, the first
publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing;
that the matter was duly considered at the October 11, 1994,
hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to express
comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were
available to newspaper, radio and television stations.
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2. That the property is located within the City of Meridian;
that the property is in the Locust Grove District as shown on page
seven of the Meridian Comprehensive Plan and in an area classified
as a Mixed/Planned Use Development Area on the Generalized Land Use
Map; it is located on Fairview Avenue, a principal arterial
entrance to the City, and is described in the application which
description and is incorporated herein.
3. That the property was proposed in Applicant's annexation
and zoning application to be zoned C -G, General Retail and Service
Commercial, which does not require a conditional use permit to
develop a general merchandise retail store and parking lot, but the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law for the annexation of the
property state in Conclusion N. 13, as a condition of annexation,
" . . that any use or development of the property shall only
be allowed as a conditional use with design review";
it is likely that the property will be zoned C -G, General Retail
and Service Commercial.
4. That the zoning of General Retail and Service Commercial,
(C -G) is defined in the Zoning Ordinance at 11-2-408 B. 11. as
follows:
(C -G) General Retail and Service Commercial: The purpose of
the (C -G) District is to provide for commercial uses which are
customarily operated entirely or almost entirely within a
building; to provide for a review of the impact of proposed
commercial uses which are auto and service oriented and are
located in close proximity to major highway or arterial
streets; to fulfill the need of travel -related services as
well as retail sales for the transient and permanent motoring
public. All such districts shall be connected to the
Municipal Water and Sewer systems of the City of Meridian, and
shall not constitute strip commercial development and
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encourage clustering of commercial development.
5. That the Applicant is not the owner of record of the
property; that the owner of record is Roger C. Crandlemire and he
has authorized the conditional use application.
6. That the present use of the land is for pasture and
farmland.
7. That the proposed use by the Applicant is for a single
general merchandise retail store of approximately 50,000 square
feet which would provide merchandise in the following areas:
Lawn and Garden, Hardware and tools, Plumbing and Electrical,
Work and Casual Clothing, Toys,, Tack and Animal Health, and
Agricultural Supplies;
and an associated parking lot; that the Applicant submitted
drawings of the proposed layout of the building that is proposed to
be constructed but they were not construction drawings; they did
not show the 35 foot landscaping which was required under the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law adopted by the City Council
on the annexation and zoning; that the Applicant's representative
had stated at the Planning and Zoning hearing on the annexation and
zoning that he had a problem with the comment that a 35 foot
landscape setback was required; that at the public hearing the
Applicant's representative stated that Applicant was now proposing
a 25 foot setback.
8. That at the public hearing Dick Schrandt, of D & B
Supply, the proposed user of the property, stated that there would
be more trees than shown on the submitted drawings, that there
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would be screening to Wilson Lane, that a development agreement had
been submitted, that they had no problem with complying with the
Meridian staff comments, that the store would be attractive, and
that he had no knowledge of what was going to be built on the four
lots to the west of the D & B Supply store. In response to a
question from Commissioner Tim Hepper he stated that the 35 foot
landscape set back was too much land but that they would provide 25
feet. He further stated that there would be 68 3 -inch caliper
trees, decorative shrubbery, landscaping across the back of the
store, and that they would improve Wilson Lane.
In response to the testimony of Tom Zabala, discussed below,
Mr. Schrandt stated that they would add to the landscape on the
south, that there would not be unlimited access to the south, that
there would be two 40 foot accesses from Wilson Lane, that
deliveries would be made during normal business hours, that it
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would be a clean retail store, that they would use ropose
forklifts, that water runoff would be maintained on-site, that
there would be fencing and landscaping around the building, and
that they would do the screening necessary.
9. Tom Zabala testified, and submitted a written copy of his
testimony, that he was testifying on behalf of Tom and Barbara
Myall; that he had reviewed the site development plan; that
conditions should be required so that development would be done in
accordance with the Ordinances and the Comprehensive Plan; that the
landscaping on the south shown on the plans was inadequate; that
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the lighting was bad; that trucks and vehicles would be a problem;
that he had developed a site plan and he submitted that into
evidence; that the Myall's property would probably be developed
into office or high density residential; that there should be a
condition that the south should be landscaped and there should be
protection of the property to the south that relate to noise,
refuse, lighting and debris; that there should be right-of-way
improvements that limits access to property on Wilson Street; that
there should be a five to six foot solid screen of the property to
the south; that there should be five to six foot planters for
conifer and deciduous trees; that there should be sprinklers for
the landscaping; that access to Wilson street should be limited to
two accesses; that the lights should be shielded so they do not
shine to the south; and there should be curb, gutter and sidewalk
on Wilson Street.
10. Tom Myall testified that he and his wife were the owners
of 1470 N. Locust Grove Lane, Meridian, Idaho, (which is the
property to the south of the subject property); that as commercial
development encroaches in an historically rural residential; that
the land is in a mixed-use area; that there are policies applicable
to development, specifically 5.18U, page 28, (of the Meridian
Comprehensive Plan) which states:
"Existing residential properties will be protected from
incompatible land -use development in those areas. Screening
and buffers will be incorporated into all developments
requests in this area.";
that the screening was addressed in the Findings of Fact and
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Conclusions of Law adopted on the annexation under 11-9-605 G 1.
and that requires a 20 foot planting strip next to commercial or
industrial uses to screen residential properties; that he mentioned
the following items that he stated were applicable to this
development:
11-2-413 B 1. c.,d.,f., and h.
11-2-413 C 12. a.
11-2-414 D 2. a., b., c. and d., and 3;
he stated that he had the following concern:
"That there was potential glare from the parking area lights
and the rear store security lights and potential for
contaminated water run-off from the parking area and
building.";
and stated that he had the following suggestions:
1. Landscaping, berming and fencing be increased from what
is shown on the site plan to extend the length of the
property.
2. Limit the ingress/egress points on Wilson Street to two
or three access points, one or two curb cuts at the west
end and one curb cut at the east end.
3. That drainage enter a sewer system.
4. That during construction ingress and egress to their
residence not be blocked at any time.
11. That one of the conclusions made for the annexation and
zoning was that prior to annexation and zoning of C -G, the
Applicant shall be required to enter into a development agreement
as authorized by 11-2-416 L and 11- D; the annexation and zoning
conclusions stated some of the matters that needed to be included
in the development agreement; the development agreement has not
been entered into as of the date of the conditional use hearing and
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no annexation ordinance has been adopted since the development
agreement was a condition to passage of an annexation ordinance.
12. That sewer and water is available to the property, but
the property will have to comply with the commercial sewer and
water rates.
13. That the Ada County Highway District commented that a 5 -
foot wide concrete sidewalk was required along Fairview Avenue
abutting the parcel; that a minimum separation of 460 feet from the
near edge of Locust Grove Road to the westerly access point
driveway on Fairview and that driveways on Fairview Avenue must be
constructed as curb return type approaches with a minimum throat of
30 -feet and a 5 -foot radii; that construction of Wilson Lane must
be one-half of a 41 -foot back-to-back street section with vertical
curb, plus 12 -feet of paving and 5 -foot concrete sidewalks along
the subject parcel, that access points on Wilson Lane shall be
clearly delineated, and Wilson Lane must be constructed from the
west end of this parcel to Locust Grove Road with 24 -feet of
paving; and that an easement and public turnaround must be
constructed and provided at the east end of Wilson Lane and that
there must be coordination of the design and location with ACHD
development staff.
14. That the City Planning Director commented that 68 3 -inch
caliper trees are required for the plan shown; that Applicant is to
submit fully detailed landscape plan as part of the application for
building permit; that the parking area needs to be broken up with
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landscaping, preferably every 100 to 150 feet; that Applicant
should provide a screening landscape strip along the southern
border except where designated accesses are planned and except
where necessary to provide clear vision triangle; that 5 -foot
sidewalks are to be constructed along Fairview Avenue and Wilson
Lane; that storage of equipment and materials is to be adequately
screened from view on all sides; and a total of 11 handicapped
parking spaces is required, that two of these require an 8 -foot
access aisle, and the spaces must be designated with appropriate
striping and signage.
15. That the City Engineer did not file comments on the
Conditional use Application, but if he does prior to the City
Council hearing they will be incorporated herein as if set forth in
full; that the Meridian Fire Chief commented that all codes, water
and hydran equirements ill need to be met; that the Central
District Health Department, Nampa & Meridian and Settlers
Irrigation Districts, and Idaho Power Company submitted comments
and they are incorporated herein as if set forth in full.
16. That Fred Mack, attorney at law, representing Barbara
Myall who owns 16 acres directly south of the subject property
submitted a letter in which he stated that he had reviewed the
Application and site plans; that since the Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law on the annexation required disclosure of the
proposed uses, but that nothing had been disclosed about lots 14,
15, 16, and 17 and such disclosure should be required for
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development of the entire parcel and the Applicant should not be
allowed to exclude any portion thereof; that the plans showed a
storage yard which could be used to store unsightly materials and
that there was potential for noise from service trucks entering and
departing from the rear of the store, he suggested that the
landscaping be increased to extend the full length of the rear of
the store and that landscaping be incorporated in order to shield
the Myall property from view and noise; that the site should be
limited to two ingress/egress points on of which should be a curb
cut at the west end and one at the north end near the entry gate
and that such would allow for a maximum area to be required to be
fenced, bermed and landscaped to minimize the truck noise and
unsightly appearance problems; he also suggested, to benefit the
City and the Myalls, that the Wilson Lane be extended to the end of
the dedicated roadway and not be limited to where the D & B Store
ends and that water and sewer lines should be required to be
constructed such that they would be able to serve D & B and any
future development.
17. That proper notice has been given as required by law and
all procedures before the Planning and Zoning Commission have been
given and followed.
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met including the mailing of notice to owners of property
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within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's
property;
2. That the City of Meridian has authority to grant
conditional uses pursuant to 67-6512, Idaho Code, and, pursuant to
11-2-418 of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of
Meridian;
3. That the Conclusions on the annexation and zoning of the
property state that the property would only be capable of being
developed as a planned commercial development, under the
conditional use permit process, with design review; therefore a
conditional use is required for development of the property, which
is what the Applicant has applied for in conformance with the
annexation conclusions.
4. That the City of Meridian has authority to place
conditions on a conditional use permit and the use of the property
pursuant to 67-6512, Idaho Code, and pursuant to 11-2-418(D) of the
Revised and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian, Idaho.
5. That 11-2-418(C) of the Revised and Compiled Ordinances
of the City of Meridian sets forth the standards under which the
Planning and Zoning Commission and the City Council shall review
applications for Conditional Use Permits; that upon a review of
those requirements and a review of the facts presented and the
conditions of the area, the Planning and Zoning Commission
concludes as follows:
a. The use, would in fact, constitute a conditional use and
a conditional use permit is required by ordinance, the
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annexation conclusions of law, and the Comprehensive Plan.
b. The use should be harmonious with and in accordance with
the Comprehensive Plan but the Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law on the Annexation require a conditional use
permit to allow the use.
C. The use apparently would be designed and constructed, to
be harmonious in appearance with the intended character of the
general vicinity.
d. That the use would not be hazardous nor should it be
disturbing to existing or future neighboring uses.
e. The property has sewer and water service available.
f. The use would not create excessive additional
requirements at public cost for public facilities and services
and the use would not be detrimental to the economic welfare
of the community.
g. The use would not involve a use, activity, process,
material, equipment or conditions of operation that would be
detrimental to person, property or the general welfare by
reason of excessive production of traffic or noise.
h. That sufficient parking for the property and the proposed
use will be required.
i. The development and uses will not result in the
destruction, loss or damage of a natural or scenic feature of
major importance.
6. That all ordinances of the City of Meridian must be met,
including but not limited to, the Uniform Building Code, Uniform
Fire Code, Uniform Plumbing Code, Uniform Electrical Code, the Fire
and Life Safety Code, all parking and landscaping requirements.
7. All requirements of the Findings of Fact and Conclusions
of Law adopted for the annexation and zoning of the property and of
the annexation and zoning ordinance that will be adopted must be
met, including entering into a development agreement; that the
development agreement must meet the requirements outlined in the
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Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law adopted on the annexation
of the property, specifically including 25 foot landscape
requirement along Fairview Avenue, and entryway corridor to the
City of Meridian.
8. Comment was made in the letter from Mr. Mack that the
Applicant should be required to disclose the proposed uses and
intention for development for the entire parcel of property and not
be allowed to exclude any portion thereof because it was a
requirement of the annexation and zoning Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law that the annexation and zoning be conditioned on
the City determining what the proposed uses are and whether the
proposed uses are in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law also state, ". . . the
property should be subject to de -annexation if the uses and lay -out
of uses are not in compliance with the Meridian Comprehensive
Plan." and ". . . even if some uses are revealed and those uses
are determined to be in compliance with the Comprehensive Plan, any
use or development of the property shall only be allowed as a
conditional use with design review"; it is therefore concluded that
since the City Council also concluded that the property should be
subject to de -annexation if the uses and lay -out of uses are not in
compliance with the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, it did not intend
to require total disclosure of all development and uses before a
single use was allowed under the conditional use process; this is
so concluded because the Council stated that the land could be de -
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annexed if the use did not comply with the Comprehensive Plan.
9. It is further concluded that the Applicant shall meet all
of its representations made at the public hearing, shall meet the
requirements and comments of the City staff, particularly those of
Shari Stiles, and of the Nampa & Meridian and Settlers Irrigation
Districts.
10. That since the annexation and zoning Findings of Fact and
Conclusions of Law required a development agreement to be entered
into prior to an annexation and zoning ordinance being adopted,
since such development agreement has not been entered into as of
this date, and since a conditional use permit cannot be granted
until the property is annexed, the development agreement is
concluded to be a condition of a conditional use permit; the
development must also meet any requirements of a planned commercial
development.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONER HEPPER
COMMISSIONER ROUNTREE
COMMISSIONER SHEARER
COMMISSIONER ALIDJANI
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER)
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
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VOTED
VOTED
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VOTED
VOTED
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DECISION AND RECOMMENDATION
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the
Conditional Use Permit requested by the Applicant for the property
described in the application with the conditions set forth in the
Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law; that no conditional use
permit should be granted until the property is annexed and zoned,
a development agreement is entered into, and all the City's
requirements have been met.
MOTION:
APPROVED: DISAPPROVED:
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welved,
Testimony Public Hearing
Meridian P&Z
October 11, 1994
,ZA/Aell
My name is Thom Myall. I am representing my wife, Barbara Myall, and myself.
We are property owners at 1470 N. Locust Grove Road, Meridian , Idaho, which
is immediately south of the NEB -i proposal. This property was the home of my
wife's late parents for thirty years and is presently rural residential, in Ada
County, and zoned Rural Transitional (RT). We have maintained a gravel road
down Wilson Lane to our residence during this time. The property consists of a
residence and approximately 16 acres, lots 18, 19, and 20 of Pleasant Valley
Subdivision. The home is viable residence which is currently leased. At this time
we do not know how our land will be developed.
We realize Meridian is experiencing growth and desires commercial development
to increase its tax base, provide jobs, and offer local shopping , a goal stated in
the Meridan Comprehensive Plan. As commercial development encroaches in an
historically rural residential subdivision, often incompatible land uses result.
The Meridian Comprehensive Plan addresses this issue relative to the
Pleasant Valley Subdivision , which is designated as a Mixed -Use Area. Policies
applicable to development are stated, specifically, Paragraph 5.18U, Page 28 --
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".Existing residential prop erites will be protected form intompatible land -use
development in this area. Screening and buffers will be incorporated. into all
development requests in this area." Also, the issue of screening and buffering is
addressed in the Finding of Fact and Conclusions of Law, August 16, 1994.
[Paragraph 29, Page 12 states and I quote: "That Section 11-9-605 G 1. states as
follows: planting strips shall be required to be placed next to incompatible
features such as highways, railroads, commercial or industrial uses to screen the
view from residential properties . Such screening shall be a minimum of twenty
feet (20') wide, and shall not be a part of the normal street right-of-way or utility
easement."] In addition, the Meridian Zoning and Development Ordinance 1993
contains ordinances that disffuse the adverse impact of commerical uses on
residental property.
The following items are applicable to this development and of interst to us.
1. Provisions for Commercial and Industrial Uses - Section 2-413, B 1. c. d.
f. h. - Page 54 and 55. ( c -noise, f -glare, h -water pollution )
2. Outdoor Storage of Commercial and Industrial Materials - Section 2-413, C
12. a. - Page 58. ( a -screening from residence )
3. Design Standards for Off -Street Parking - Section 2-414, D 2 a., b., c. and
d. and 3 - Page 63. ( a -Landscaping, b -underground sprinkling, c -screening, d -
drainage, 3 -lighting = direct rays or spill over to residential )
In addition to the written testimonty of 10/5/94, submitted to Meridian
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Plahning and Zoning b obur attorney, Fred Mack, I halo the following concerns
relative to the impact the NEB -i proposal will have on our property:,.:.
1. The present application and site plan show a D & B retail store, with parking
lot and storage yard. There is the potential for glare from the parking area
lights and rear store security lights and the potential for contaminated water run-
off from the parking area and building.
In reference to the aforementioned policies and ordinances, and in order to
minimize the adverse affects created by this development on the continued
enjoyment of our residence and any future development of our property, we
suggest the following be required:
1. Appropiate landscaping , berming and fencing be increased from what is
shown on the site plan to extend the entire length of the storage yard, building
and parking lot as they abut Wilson Lane.
2. The rear of the site be limited to two (2)(3) ingress/egress points on Wilson
Lane, (one) (two) curb cut located at the west end and one curb cut at the east
end. These two items would reduce the adverse impact of glare, noise and
unsightly view from our residence.
3. We request that all drainage from the site enter a sewer system.
4. We request that during construction ingress and eggress to our residence not
be blocked at any time.
Thank you for the opportunity to express our concerns.
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• • ORIGINAL
BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
B. W. INC.
DANBURY FAIR 5, 6 AND 7
ANNEXATION AND ZONING
SECTION 7, T.U., R.1E., BOISE MERIDIAN
MERIDIAN, IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled matter having come on for public hearing
October 11, 1994, at the hour of 7:30 o'clock p.m., Dan Torfin,
representing the Petitioner appeared in person, the Planning and
Zoning Commission of the City of Meridian having duly considered
the evidence and the matter, makes the following Findings of Fact
and Conclusions of Law:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That notice of a public hearing on the request for
annexation and zoning was published for two (2) consecutive weeks
prior to the said public hearing scheduled for October 11, 1994,
the first publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said
hearing; that the matter was duly considered at the October 11,
1994, hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to
express comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all
notices were available to newspaper, radio and television stations.
2. The property is approximately 32.01 acres; that the
property is located within the City of Meridian and that the
Applicant is the owner of the property; that the Application
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requests three (3) parcels and to be annexed and they are adjacent
to the existing developed and developing Danbury Fair Subdivision
which is designated as R-8 zoning.
3. That the property is presently zoned by Ada County as
(RT) Rural Transition and the Application requests that the parcel
be annexed and zoned R-8 Residential.
4. The general area surrounding the property is used
residentially and is predominantly zoned R-8.
5. That either at the hearing, in the Application, or in the
letter sent with the Application, it was stated as follows:
a. That Phase 5 contains 33 lots on 10.4 acres; that single
family homes are proposed which is compatible with the
surrounding area; that a proposed pocket park with
playground equipment will be developed on this parcel as
well as that the 15 to 18 feet of existing road along the
Five Mile Creek could be developed as a green belt or a
multi -use pathway, probably gravel, for bicyclist's,
possibly equestrians and walkers; that if this pathway is
developed, it is proposed that the City of Meridian take
over ownership and maintenance of that pathway; that it
could be incorporated into a master pathway system as
things develop along the creek.
b. That access will be through the existing Danbury Fair
Subdivision through a street that is currently scheduled
to be constructed sometime in November; that no
development would occur in that area until that street
was extended; that sewer and water will be extended to
serve this project.
C. That Phase 6 fronts on Locust Grove Road and contains 73
lots on 18.93 acres; that upon ACHD requirements, stub
streets will be provided, one to the northeast corner of
Phase 6 and also a stub street from #6 to a park that is
proposed in Phase 3, to be developed in the spring of
1995.
d. That because the City of Meridian has a requirement that
blocks lengths not to exceed 1,000 feet, this application
will likely seek a variance on the stub street to be
developed in the northeast corner of Phase 6 because the
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block length from the stub street to the northwest corner
is over 1,000 feet.
e. That Phase 7 contains 12 lots on 3.07 acres and is
located in the northerly portion within the original
preliminary plat of Danbury Fair; that a portion just
north of this parcel will be a veterinary clinic that
includes some R-8 property which has been through a
rezone and approved by the City Council.
f. That all homes will have some brick; that the homes built
will not be less than 1100 square feet and that the
developer will maintain control on fences and color of
exterior.
6. That the property is adjacent and abutting to the present
City limits.
7. That the property included in the annexation and zoning
application is within the Area of Impact of the City of Meridian.
8. That the entire parcel of ground is included within the
Meridian Urban Service Planning Area as the Urban Service Planning
Area is defined in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan.
9. That the R-8, Residential District is described in the
Zoning Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 4 as follows:
(R-8) Medium Density Residential District: The purpose
of the (R-8) Districts is to permit the establishment of
single and two (2) family dwellings at a density not
exceeding eight (8) dwelling units per acre. This
district delineates those areas where such development
has or is likely to occur in accord with the
Comprehensive Plan of the City and is also designed to
permit the conversion of large homes into two (2) family
dwellings in well-established neighborhoods of comparable
land use. Connection to the Municipal Water and Sewer
systems of the City of Meridian is required.
that the R-8 zoning district requires a minimum of 1,300 square
feet to be included in houses in that zone; that the City does have
an Ordinance, 11-2-411 B.2., that allows certain percentages of the
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homes to be 1,001 to 1,100, 1,101 to 1,200, and 1,201 to 1,300;
that the Applicant has stated in the Application that 1,100 square
foot would be the minimum size home.
10. That in prior annexation requests the Planning Director
has commented that a perimeter fence should be required; that
comment is equally applicable to this annexation application.
11. At the hearing Bernadine Morgan testified that her
property, containing nearly five (5) acres, is near Parcel 7; that
it looks on 14 back yards and she questions whether or not that
side could be fenced; that she has horses and young people from the
Danbury Fair Subdivision cut across her place and she is concerned
for their safety.
12. That Melinda Harper gave testimony regarding that
construction workers should clean up after themselves better as
they leave lunch trash behind; that adequate dumpsters and portable
facilities should be made available on the job site; that safety
for the children should be considered as construction workers leave
lots of nails and things laying around; that street lighting should
be available, and not offensive; that the speed for the traffic be
reduced to 25 miles per hour because of the children living in the
area; that Ms. Harper was agreeable to the graveled pathway and
hoped there is a restriction on motorized vehicles.
13. That the developer of Danbury Fair, Dennis Baker
testified regarding the environmental issues and the proposed
pathway; that he wants the same density they asked for.
14. That written testimony was received by Douglas
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Noltemeier, a professional geographer, along with signatures of
nineteen homeowners and residents living in the vicinity of Five
Mile Creek who are opposed to the annexation of land adjacent to
Five Mile Creek; Mr. Noltemeier and the signers are concerned over
the loss of vital riparian habitat to a variety of birds; they
proposes the creation of a minimum 50 -foot wide greenbelt with a
bike and walking path along Five Mile Creek; Mr. Noltemeier
proposed planting trees, wild flowers, vegetation, additional
habitat and shade which would create a more aesthetically pleasing
area.
15. That comments were received from the Assistant City
Engineer, City Planning Director, City Fire Department, Meridian
School District, Ada County Highway District, Ada County Street
Name Committee, Central District Health, Nampa Meridian Irrigation,
Idaho Power and US West; that such comments are incorporated herein
as if set forth in full.
16. Shari Stiles, Planning and Zoning Administrator,
commented that some block lengths exceed 1,000 feet; that stub
streets to the north and south need to be provided and if a
variance application is granted, ten -foot -wide pedestrian walkways
with five-foot paved walkways will be required; that sidewalks need
to be constructed in accordance with City Ordinance, including
along Locust Grove Road and Pine Avenue; that the name, address and
telephone number or the owner or the subdivider needs to be added
to the plats as well as easements for Five Mile Creek; that non-
combustible fencing will be required outside of Settlers Irrigation
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District, Nampa -Meridian Irrigation District, and/or Bureau of
Reclamation easement areas, along with respective agency approvals,
prior to obtaining building permits; that since Five Mile Creek is
designated as a pathway in the Comprehensive Plan, Applicant must
submit a plan in accordance with Ada County Pathway Plan; that all
pedestrian walkways need proper lighting; that ditches will need to
be tiled unless a variance is applied for and granted by the City
Council; that the minimum house size needs to be included on the
plat; that the proposed street names be shown on plat and that a
development agreement is required as a condition of annexation.
17. Bruce Freckleton, Assistant to City Engineer Gary Smith,
submitted comments among which were that the legal descriptions
submitted with this application don't follow the boundaries of the
preliminary plat map; that the discrepancies need to be cleared up
and new legal descriptions per Resolution 158 (Aug.16, 1994) need
to be resubmitted; that the seasonal high ground water elevation
and profile of the sub -surface soil conditions need to be
determined; that any existing irrigation ditches crossing the
property to be included in this platting, shall be tiled per City
Ordinance and the plan will need to be approved by the appropriate
irrigation district; that the proposed restrictive covenants and/or
deed restrictions shall be submitted for review; that a 250 Watt
High Pressure Sodium Street Light will be required at the
subdivision's entrance off N. Locust Grove Rd.; that any existing
domestic wells and/or septic systems within this subdivision will
have to be removed from their domestic service per City Ordinance,
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but wells may be used for non-domestic purposes such as landscape
irrigation; that the Applicant needs to submit information
detailing the traffic impact on existing or adjacent roadways and
intersections; that identification and labeling of the existing
easements of record for Five Mile Creek as they pertain to this
proposed development needs to be added; that the Preliminary Plat
map needs to be stamped, signed, and dated by the Land Surveyor who
prepared the map and indicate any existing FEMA Flood Plain
Boundaries or any plans to reduce said boundaries; that each parcel
will carry the phase number and label of the existing platted
subdivisions and that water service to this development is
contingent on positive results from a hydraulic analysis by our
computer model.
18. That the Meridian School District commented on October
10, 1994, regarding this application, that its comment made in its
letter of October 3, 1994, that the District was in need of land to
be dedicated or made available to the district for a school site,
was in error.
19. That the Applicant did submit a subdivision plat
application showing how the property would be developed; that after
a review of the original preliminary plat of Danbury Fair, which
was titled Benham Park Subdivision, it appears that portions of the
land now requested to be annexed, which abut Locust Grove Road and
Pine Street, were not portions of the original plat of Benham Park
Subdivision.
20. That the property is shown on the Meridian Comprehensive
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Plan as being in an Existing Urban Area.
21. That in the Rural Area section of the Comprehensive Plan,
Land Use, Rural Areas, Section 6.3, it does state that land in
agricultural activity should so remain in agricultural activity
until urban services can be provided.
22. That Meridian has, and is, experiencing a population
increase; that there are pressures on land previously used for
agricultural uses to be developed into residential subdivision
lots.
23. That the property can be physically serviced with City
water and sewer.
24. That Section 11-9-605 C states as follows:
"Right-of-way for pedestrian walkways in the middle of long
blocks may be required where necessary to obtain convenient
pedestrian circulation to schools, parks or shopping areas;
the pedestrian easement shall be at least ten feet (101)
wide."
25. That Section 11-9-605 G 1. states as follows:
"Planting strips shall be required to be placed next to
incompatible features such as highways, railroads, commercial
or industrial uses to screen the view from residential
properties. Such screening shall be a minimum of twenty feet
(201) wide, and shall not be a part of the normal street right
of way or utility easement."
26. That Section 11-9-605 H 2. states as follows:
"Existing natural features which add value to residential
development and enhance the attractiveness of the community
(such as trees, watercourses, historic spots and similar
irreplaceable amenities) shall be preserved in the design of
the subdivision;"
27. That Section 11-9-605 K states as follows:
"The extent and location of lands designed for linear open
space corridors should be determined by natural features and,
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to lesser extent, by man-made features such as utility
easements, transportation rights of way or water rights of
way. Landscaping, screening or lineal open space corridors
may be required for the protection of residential properties
from adjacent arterial streets, waterways, railroad rights of
way or other features. As improved areas (landscaped), semi -
improved areas (a landscaped pathway only), or unimproved
areas (left in a natural state), linear open space corridors
serve:
1. To preserve openness;
2. To interconnect park and open space systems within rights
28. That Section 11-9-605 L states as follows:
Bicycle and pedestrian pathways shall be encouraged within new
developments as part of the public right of way or as separate
easements so that an alternate transportation system (which is
distinct and separate from the automobile) can be provided
throughout the City Urban Service Planning Area. The
Commission and Planning and Zoning Commission shall consider
the Bicycle -Pedestrian Design Manual for Ada County (as
prepared by Ada County Highway District) when reviewing
bicycle and pedestrian pathway provisions within developments.
29. That in prior requests for annexation and zoning the
previous Zoning Administrator has commented that annexation could
be conditioned on a development agreement including an impact fee
to help acquire a future school or park site to serve the area and
that annexations should be subject to impact fees for park, police,
and fire services as determined by the city and designated in an
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of way for trails, walkways, bicycle ways;
3.
To play a major role in conserving
area scenic
and
natural value, especially waterways,
drainages
and
natural habitat;
4.
To buffer more intensive adjacent urban
land uses;
5.
To enhance local identification within
the area due
to
the internal linkages; and
6.
To link residential neighborhoods,
park areas
and
recreation facilities."
28. That Section 11-9-605 L states as follows:
Bicycle and pedestrian pathways shall be encouraged within new
developments as part of the public right of way or as separate
easements so that an alternate transportation system (which is
distinct and separate from the automobile) can be provided
throughout the City Urban Service Planning Area. The
Commission and Planning and Zoning Commission shall consider
the Bicycle -Pedestrian Design Manual for Ada County (as
prepared by Ada County Highway District) when reviewing
bicycle and pedestrian pathway provisions within developments.
29. That in prior requests for annexation and zoning the
previous Zoning Administrator has commented that annexation could
be conditioned on a development agreement including an impact fee
to help acquire a future school or park site to serve the area and
that annexations should be subject to impact fees for park, police,
and fire services as determined by the city and designated in an
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approved development agreement; that such comment is equally
applicable to this Application.
30. That in 1992 the Idaho State Legislature passed
amendments to the Local Planning Act, which in 67-6513 Idaho Code,
relating to subdivision ordinances, states as follows:
"Each such ordinance may provide for mitigation of the effects
of subdivision development on the ability of political
subdivisions of the state, including school districts, to
deliver services without compromising quality of service
delivery to current residents or imposing substantial
additional costs upon current residents to accommodate the
subdivision.";
that the City of Meridian is concerned with the increase in
population that is occurring and with its impact on the City being
able to provide fire, police, emergency health care, water, sewer,
parks and recreation services to its current residents and to those
moving into the City; the City is also concerned that the increase
in population is burdening the schools of the Meridian School
District which provide school service to current and future
residents of the City; that the City knows that the increase in
population does not sufficiently increase the tax base to offset
the cost of providing fire, police, emergency health care, water,
sewer, parks and recreation services; and the City knows that the
increase in population does not provide sufficient tax base to
provide for school services to current and future students.
31. That pursuant to the instruction, guidance, and direction
of the Idaho State Legislature, the City may impose either a
development fee or a transfer fee on residential property, which,
if possible, would be retroactive and apply to all residential lots
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in the City because of the imperilment to the health, welfare, and
safety of the citizens of the City of Meridian.
32. That proper notice was given as required by law and all
procedures before the Planning and Zoning Commission were given and
followed.
CONCLUSIONS
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met, including the mailing of notice to owners of property
within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's
property.
2. That the City of Meridian has authority to annex land
pursuant to 50-222, Idaho Code, and Section 11-2-417 of the Revised
and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian; that exercise of
the City's annexation authority is a Legislative function.
3. That the Planning and Zoning Commission has judged this
annexation and zoning application under Section 50-222, Idaho Code,
Title 67, Chapter 65, Idaho Code, the Meridian City Ordinances, the
Meridian Comprehensive Plan, as amended, and the record submitted
to it and things of which it can take judicial notice.
4. That all notice and hearing requirements set forth in
Title 67, Chapter 65, Idaho Code, and the Ordinances of the City of
Meridian have been complied with.
5. That the Commission may take judicial notice of
government ordinances, and policies, and of actual conditions
existing within the City and State.
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6. That the land within the proposed annexation is
contiguous to the present City limits of the City of Meridian, and
the annexation would not be a shoestring annexation.
7. That the annexation application has been initiated by the
Applicant and is not upon the initiation of the City of Meridian.
8. That since the annexation and zoning of land is a
legislative function, the City has authority to place conditions
upon the annexation of land. Burt vs. The City of Idaho Falls, 105
Idaho 65, 665 P.D 1075 (1983).
9. That the development of annexed land must meet and comply
with the Ordinances of the City of Meridian and in particular
Section 11-9-616, which pertains to development time schedules and
requirements, Section 11-9-605 M., which pertains to the tiling of
ditches and water ways, and Section 11-9-606 B 14, which pertains
to pressurized irrigation; that the Applicant shall be required to
connect to Meridian water and sewer; that the development of the
property shall be subject to and controlled by the Subdivision and
Development Ordinance; that, as a condition of annexation the
Applicant shall be required to enter into a development agreement
as authorized by 11-2-416 L and 11-2-417 D; that the development
agreement shall address the inclusion into the subdivision of the
requirements of 11-9-605 C, G., H 2, K, L, 11-9-606 b. 14 and plans
for Five Mile Creek in accordance with the Ada County Pathway Plan;
that the development agreement shall, as a condition of annexation,
require that the Applicant, or if required, any assigns, heirs,
executors or personal representatives, pay, when required, any
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development fee or transfer fee adopted by the City; that there
shall be no annexation until the requirements of this paragraph are
met or, if necessary, the property shall be subject to de -
annexation and loss of City services, if the requirements of this
paragraph were not met.
10. That the Applicant's property is shown on the Generalized
Land Use Map as being in an Existing Urban Area; that development
of the land in a residential capacity would be in compliance with
the Comprehensive Plan, and therefore the annexation would be in
conformance with the Comprehensive Plan.
11. That the requirements of the Meridian City Engineer, and
of the Ada County Highway District, Settlers Irrigation District,
Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District, Meridian Fire and Police
Departments, and the comments of the Meridian Planning Director,
shall be met and addressed in a development Agreement.
12. That all ditches, canals, and waterways shall be tiled,
if annexed, as a condition of annexation and if not so tiled the
property shall be subject to de -annexation; that the Applicant
shall be required to install a pressurized irrigation system, and
if not so done the property shall be subject to de -annexation.
13. That these conditions shall run with the land and bind
the applicant and its assigns.
14. That since only a portion of the property proposed to be
annexed now was a portion of the original preliminary plat of
Danbury Subdivision, which was known as Benham Park Subdivision,
that as a condition of annexation, only that portion of this
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Application which was a part of the original preliminary plat of
Danbury Subdivision should be allowed to have houses which are less
than 1,300 square feet; that that portion which is requested to be
annexed and zoned which abuts Locust Grove Road and Pine Street and
was not part of the original Danbury Subdivision, should meet the
1,300 square foot minimum house size in the R-8 Residential
District.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions.
ROLL CALL
COMMISSIONER HEPPER
ROUNTREE
SHEARER
ALIDJANI
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER)
VOTED I'
VOTED
VOTEDVOTED
VOTED
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the City Council of the City of Meridian that they approve the
annexation and zoning as stated above for the property described in
the application with the conditions set forth in the Findings of
Fact and Conclusions of Law; that if the conditions are not met
that the property should not be annexed, or if the land has already
been annexed, that it be de -annexed.
MOTION:
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APPROVED: DISAPPROVED:
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OCT 10 '94 16:21 TO 2083*58 FROM MERIDIAN DISTwu T-499 P.02
INTENDENT
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ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT
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inDIRECTORS
Sheryl Belknap, Elementary
Jim Carberry, Secondary
\ Doug Rutan, Special Services
JOINT SCHOOL DISTRICT N0.2
911MERIDIANSTREET • MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 • PHONE (208)888,6701
October 10, 1994
Shari Stiles
City of Meridian
33 East Idaho
Meridian, Idaho 83642
Dear Ms. Stiles:
Our letter responding to the application for Danbury Fair
Subdivision, dated October 3, 1994, had an error in paragraph
three. we do not need land set aside for a school site in this
subdivision.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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October 11, 1994
Position on rezoning
Builders Masonry Products is always enthusiastic to see development and new
growth in the economy. However, we feet there are some very real problems with
rezoning a industrial property to a residential development. It will not only be hazardous
for us, but for the city and the potential residents.
As we have seen documented nationally, when residential developments are
constructed in an area originally zoned for industrial use, there begins to be restrictions on
the business. The noise levels of the plant could be a problem for residents, putting our
manufacturing plant at a disadvantage due to time restrictions on production.
With new neighborhoods, the number of children in the area will increase. This
poses two potential problems. One is for the safety of the children who may wander onto
our property. The second is the potential problem of more property damage and
vandalism to our facility.
For the reasons described above, Builders Masonry Products position is to oppose
the rezoning of this property for residential purposes and to maintain this area as it was
originally zoned.
1300E. FRANKLIN ROAD • MERIDIAN, IDAHO 83642 • (208)888-4050
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BEFORE THE MERIDIAN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
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MERIDIAN, IDAHO
FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
The above entitled annexation and zoning application having
come on for consideration on October 11, 1994, at the hour of 7:30
o'clock p.m. on said date, at the Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho
Street, Meridian, Idaho, and the Planning and Zoning Commission
having heard and taken oral and written testimony and the Applicant
appearing, and having duly considered the matter, the Planning and
Zoning Commission makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. That notice of public hearing on the annexation and zoning
was published for two (2) consecutive weeks prior to the said
public hearing scheduled for October 11, 1994, the first
publication of which was fifteen (15) days prior to said hearing;
that the matter was duly considered at the October 11, 1994,
hearing; that the public was given full opportunity to express
comments and submit evidence; and that copies of all notices were
available to newspaper, radio and television stations.
2. That the property included in the application for
annexation and zoning is described in the application, and by this
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reference is incorporated herein; that the property is five acres
in size; the property abuts and is west of Locust Grove Road, and
it is north of Doris Subdivision, a subdivision of lots of one acre
or more.
3. That the property is presently zoned by Ada County as
(RT) Rural Transition and the proposed use would be for R-8
Residential development with 36 single level town house duplexes in
18 town house buildings; that an Applicant's representative stated
there would be a six foot privacy fence going around the entire
exterior.
4. The general area surrounding the property is used
residentially; that the residential property to the south is in Ada
County and not the City of Meridian and it is developed with 1/2
acre or larger lots; that the property to the north is zoned R-8 as
is the property to the west; the property to the east is in
agricultural use but has recently been rezoned to C -G, General
Retail and Service Commercial.
5. That the property is adjacent and abutting to the present
City limits.
6. The Applicant is not the owner of record of the property,
and the record owners are Grant B. Richards and Carrol D. Richards,
the Applicant has an agreement to purchase the property; that the
owners of record must consent to this annexation prior to final
action being taken by the City.
7. That the property included in the annexation and zoning
application is within the Area of Impact of the City of Meridian.
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8. That the entire parcel of ground is included within the
Meridian Urban Service Planning Area as the Urban Service Planning
Area is defined in the Meridian Comprehensive Plan.
9. That the Application requests that the parcel be annexed
and zoned R-8 Residential; that the present use of the property is
not for agriculture; that the intended development of the property
is for 36 town houses in 18 buildings.
10. That the Applicant did submit a subdivision plat
application showing how the property would be developed; that a
representative stated Applicant was going to build town houses and
that the development would be similar to one that he had done in
Boise, at 1515 Silverton Lane.
11. That comments were made from the people attending for the
hearing; the comments were as follows:
a. Don Bryan testified that he would like to see some
fencing and water monitoring; that the fencing should be
put up before construction to keep the trash enclosed;
that he wanted to know what was going to happen to the
ditches; that he was apposed to the project.
b. Eric Anderson testified that he was concerned about the
density and that there was a privacy issue; that he was
concerned over water pressure; that there was going to be
a lot more traffic on Locust Grove Road; that this would
cause a loss in property values.
C. Kathleen Coulter testified that the proposed street was
not as big as other streets; that she was concerned about
the property values, the setbacks and the water pressure.
d. David Baley, the Applicant's engineer, testified that
there were 36 lots with two non -buildable landscape lots;
that it was an infill project; that there is existing
sewer but there is still a question about the water; the
street width was 46 feet of right-of-way, 36 feet of
roadway and five feet of sidewalk on each side of the
street; that the units would have two car garages and are
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single story units; that the minimum square footage was
1,228 square feet; that they would be build as town
houses and each unit would have separate power and water
meters; that the lot size is 4,250 square foot.
e. Steve Jensen, a realtor for the Applicant, testified that
they would be single level units targeted for a senior
citizen market; that there would be restrictions as far
as the use of the dwellings; that there would b a 6 foot
privacy fencing around the entire exterior and that
everybody's backyard would be privacy fenced as well;
that they were meeting all of the setback requirements;
that the smallest unit would be 1,228 square feet with
two bedrooms and two bathrooms; that the three bedroom
unit would be 1,406 square feet; that both would have 22
foot wide garages; that the covenants would restrict
parking on the streets; that rentals of the units would
not be restricted.
f. Scott Stewart testified that there was a market demand
for the proposed units; that seniors generally do not
have two vehicles.
g. Jay Jones testified that he lived on lot 9 of Doris
Subdivision; that he would not like to see the
application approved; that he was apposed to it on the
basis of density as well as the difference in property
values; that the project doe not suit the particular
needs of the area; that if it was approved it should be
a senior center and meet the requirements of a senior
center; that he had a real concern with the setback in
that the proposed town houses would be close to his back
yard.
h. Lane Mortsen testified as to opposition to the project.
i. Pat Sanford testified to being concerned about the
property values and that she was apposed to the project.
j. Kim Daniel testified about opposing the project on the
basis of the water issue.
k. Scott Dixon testified that he was concern about the
property value and the water issue.
12. That comments were received from the City Engineer,
Police Department, Fire Department, Meridian School District, Ada
County Highway District, Central District Health Department, and
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Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District and they are incorporated
herein as if set forth in full by this reference.
13. That the City Engineer, Gary Smith, submitted comments
and they are incorporated herein as if set forth in full; that of
particular note in his comments is that the legal description needs
to be prepared by a certified registered land surveyor pursuant to
Resolution 158; that the high seasonal ground water needs to be
determined; that a conceptual engineering plan needs to be
submitted; that the ditches need to be tiled; coordinate the
placement of fire hydrants with the water department; and he had
comments on the street width. Additionally the Planning Director,
Shari Stiles, submitted comment that a variance was required on the
length of the cul-de-sac, that perimeter fencing needed to be
installed prior to apply for building permits, that the plat needed
some additions, that there needs to be additional buffering
(landscaping) as well as fencing to help protect adjacent
properties developed as lower densities, and that a development
agreement was required as a condition of annexation.
14. That the Police Chief commented that high density
population areas need more police services and that the long one
way in and out is not the best.
15. The Fire Chief commented that the wider street will help
a lot; that there was no place for second access; and that a
pedestrian pathway might work.
16. That Meridian School District, Ada County Highway
District, Central District Health Department, Ada County street
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Name Committee, Nampa & Meridian Irrigation District, Idaho Power
and U. S. West submitted comments and they are incorporated herein
as if set forth in full.
17. That the property is shown on the Meridian Comprehensive
Plan as being
in a Mixed/Planned Use
Development Area. That in
the
Comprehensive
Plan, under LAND
USE, 5. MIXED -PLANNED
USE
DEVELOPMENT, Mixed -Use Area at Locust Grove Road and Fairview
Avenue plus areas North of Fairview Avenue, it is stated:
These areas are within Ada County, but nearly surrounded
by the City of Meridian. The area is characterized by large
lots, and a sparse development pattern. In order to stimulate
planned development in these areas, the following policies
apply.
5.16U All development requests will be subject to
development review and conditional use permit
processing to ensure neighborhood compatibility.
5.17U A variety of coordinated, planned and compatible
land uses are desireable for this area, including
lot -to -high density residential, office, light
industrial and commercial land uses.
5.18U Existing residential properties will be protected
from incompatible land -use development in this
area. Screening and buffers will be incorporated
into all development requests in this area.
18. That in the Rural Area section of the Comprehensive Plan,
Land Use, Rural Areas, Section 6.3, it does state that land in
agricultural activity should so remain in agricultural activity
until urban services can be provided.
19. That Meridian has, and is, experiencing a population
increase; that there are pressures on land previously used for
agricultural uses to be developed into residential subdivision
lots.
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20. That the property can be physically serviced with City
water and sewer.
21. That the R-8, Residential District is described in the
Zoning Ordinance, 11-2-408 B. 4 as follows:
(R-81 Medium Density Residential District: The purpose
of the (R-8) Districts is to permit the establishment of
single and two (2) family dwellings at a density not
exceeding eight (8) dwelling units per acre. This
district delineates those areas where such development
has or is likely to occur in accord with the
Comprehensive Plan of the City and is also designed to
permit the conversion of large homes into two (2) family
dwellings in well-established neighborhoods of comparable
land use. Connection to the Municipal Water and Sewer
systems of the City of Meridian is required.
that the R-8 zoning district requires a minimum of 1,300 square
feet to be included in detached houses in that zone; that the
Applicant is not planning detached single family houses but is
planning single story town houses with a minimum square footage of
1,228 square feet.
22. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Residential Policies, 2.1U states as follows:
"Support a variety of residential categories (urban, rural,
single-family, multi -family, town houses, apartments,
condominiums, etc.) for the purpose of providing the City with
a range of affordable housing opportunities."
23. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
Rural Areas, 6.3 c., it states as follows:
"Within the Urban Service Planning Area development may occur
in densities as low as 3 dwellings per acre if physical
connection is made to existing City of Meridian water and
sewer service and the property is platted and subdivided .
24. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Land Use,
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Rural Areas, 6.4, it states as follows:
"Residential development is allowed in the rural area provided
that said development does not exceed the Rural Residential
Agricultural density, unless it is inside the Urban Service
Planning Area and City sewer and water is provided, then Low,
Medium and High density residential may be considered. All
residential development must also comply with the other
appropriate sections of this plan."
25. That the Meridian Comprehensive Plan, under Housing,
Housing Policies, at page 66, it states as follows:
"1.1 The City of Meridian intends to provide for a wide
diversity of housing types (single-family, modular, mobile
homes, multi -family, town houses arrangements), . . ."
"1.3 An open housing market for all persons, regardless of
race, sex, age, religion or ethnic background."
"1.4 The development of housing for all income groups close
to employment and shopping centers should be encouraged."
26. That there is a population influx into the City of
Meridian at the present time which has been going on for some time
and is likely to continue; that the land is relatively close to
Meridian and economic conditions are making it difficult to
continue farming in the area.
27. That in prior requests for annexation and zoning in this
area the previous Zoning Administrator has commented that
annexation could be conditioned on a development agreement
including an impact fee to help acquire a future school or park
site to serve the area and that annexations should be subject to
impact fees for park, police, and fire services as determined by
the city and designated in an approved development agreement; that
such comment is equally applicable to this Application.
28. That in 1992 the Idaho State Legislature passed
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amendments to the Local Planning Act, which in 67-6513 Idaho Code,
relating to subdivision ordinances, states as follows:
"Each such ordinance may provide for mitigation of the effects
of subdivision development on the ability of political
subdivisions of the state, including school districts, to
deliver services without compromising quality of service
delivery to current residents or imposing substantial
additional costs upon current residents to accommodate the
subdivision.";
that the City of Meridian is concerned with the increase in
population that is occurring and with its impact on the City being
able to provide fire, police, emergency health care, water, sewer,
parks and recreation services to its current residents and to those
moving into the City; the City is also concerned that the increase
in population is burdening the schools of the Meridian School
District which provide school service to current and future
residents of the City; that the City knows that the increase in
population does not sufficiently increase the tax base to offset
the cost of providing fire, police, emergency health care, water,
sewer, parks and recreation services; and the City knows that the
increase in population does not provide sufficient tax base to
provide for school services to current and future students.
29. That pursuant to the instruction, guidance, and direction
of the Idaho State Legislature, the City may impose either a
development fee or a transfer fee on residential property, which,
if possible, would be retroactive and apply to all residential lots
in the City because of the imperilment to the health, welfare, and
safety of the citizens of the City of Meridian.
30. That Section 11-9-605 C states as follows:
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"Right-of-way for pedestrian walkways in the middle of long
blocks may be required where necessary to obtain convenient
pedestrian circulation to schools, parks or shopping areas;
the pedestrian easement shall be at least ten feet (101)
wide."
31. That Section 11-9-605 G 1. states as follows:
"Planting strips shall be required to be placed next to
incompatible features such as highways, railroads, commercial
or industrial uses to screen the view from residential
properties. Such screening shall be a minimum of twenty feet
(201) wide, and shall not be a part of the normal street right
of way or utility easement."
32. That Section 11-9-605 H 2. states as follows:
"Existing natural features which add value to residential
development and enhance the attractiveness of the community
(such as trees, watercourses, historic spots and similar
irreplaceable amenities) shall be preserved in the design of
the subdivision;"
33. That Section 11-9-605 K states as follows:
"The extent and location of lands designed for linear open
space corridors should be determined by natural features and,
to lesser extent, by man-made features such as utility
easements, transportation rights of way or water rights of
way. Landscaping, screening or lineal open space corridors
may be required for the protection of residential properties
from adjacent arterial streets, waterways, railroad rights of
way or other features. As improved areas (landscaped), semi -
improved areas (a landscaped pathway only), or unimproved
areas (left in a natural state), linear open space corridors
serve:
1. To preserve openness;
2. To interconnect park and open space systems within rights
of way for trails, walkways, bicycle ways;
3. To play a major role in conserving area scenic and
natural value, especially waterways, drainages and
natural habitat;
4. To buffer more intensive adjacent urban land uses;
5. To enhance local identification within the area due to
the internal linkages; and
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6. To link residential neighborhoods, park areas and
recreation facilities."
34. That Section 11-9-605 L states as follows:
Bicycle and pedestrian pathways shall be encouraged within new
developments as part of the public right of way or as separate
easements so that an alternate transportation system (which is
distinct and separate from the automobile) can be provided
throughout the City Urban Service Planning Area. The
Commission and Planning and Zoning Commission shall consider
the Bicycle -Pedestrian Design Manual for Ada County (as
prepared by Ada County Highway District) when reviewing
bicycle and pedestrian pathway provisions within developments.
35. That proper notice was given as required by law and all
procedures before the Planning and Zoning Commission were given and
followed.
CONCLUSIONS
1. That all the procedural requirements of the Local
Planning Act and of the Ordinances of the City of Meridian have
been met, including the mailing of notice to owners of property
within 300 feet of the external boundaries of the Applicant's
property.
2. That the City of Meridian has authority to annex land
pursuant to 50-222, Idaho Code, and Section 11-2-417 of the Revised
and Compiled Ordinances of the City of Meridian; that exercise of
the City's annexation authority is a Legislative function.
3. That the Planning and Zoning Commission has judged this
annexation and zoning application under Section 50-222, Idaho Code,
Title 67, Chapter 65, Idaho Code, the Meridian City Ordinances, the
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Meridian Comprehensive Plan, as amended, and the record submitted
to it and things of which it can take judicial notice.
4. That all notice and hearing requirements set forth in
Title 67, Chapter 65, Idaho Code, and the Ordinances of the City of
Meridian have been complied with.
5. That the Commission may take judicial notice of
government ordinances, and policies, and of actual conditions
existing within the City and State.
6. That the land within the annexation is contiguous to the
present City limits of the City of Meridian, and the annexation
would not be a shoestring annexation.
7. That the annexation application has been initiated by the
Applicant, which is the titled owner, and the annexation is not
upon the initiation of the City of Meridian; that the Applicant
must submit the written consent of the title owners for this
annexation and zoning.
8. That since the annexation and zoning of land is a
legislative function, the City has authority to place conditions
upon the annexation of land. Burt vs. The City of Idaho Falls, 105
Idaho 65, 665 P.D 1075 (1983).
9. That the development of annexed land must meet and comply
with the Ordinances of the City of Meridian and in particular
Section 11-9-616, which pertains to development time schedules and
requirements, Section 11-9-605 M., which pertains to the tiling of
ditches and water ways, and Section 11-9-606 B 14, which pertains
to pressurized irrigation; that the Applicant will be required to
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connect to Meridian water and sewer; that the development of the
property shall be subject to and controlled by the Subdivision and
Development Ordinance; that, as a condition of annexation the
Applicant shall be required to enter into a development agreement
as authorized by 11-2-416 L and 11-2-417 D; that the development
agreement shall address the inclusion into the subdivision of the
requirements of 11-9-605 C, G., H 2, K, L, pressurized irrigation;
that the development agreement shall, as a condition of annexation,
require that the Applicant, or if required, any assigns, heirs,
executors or personal representatives, pay, when required, any
development fee or transfer fee adopted by the City; that there
shall be no annexation until the requirements of this paragraph are
met or, if necessary, the property shall be subject to de -
annexation and loss of City services, if the requirements of this
paragraph are not met.
10. That the Applicant's property is in compliance with the
Comprehensive Plan, and therefore the annexation and zoning
Application would be in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan.
11. That the requirements of the Meridian City Engineer, and
of the Ada County Highway District, Nampa & Meridian Irrigation
District, Meridian Fire and Police Departments, and the comments of
the Meridian Planning Director, shall be met and addressed in a
development Agreement.
12. That all ditches, canals, and waterways shall be tiled,
if annexed, as a condition of annexation and if not so tiled the
property shall be subject to de -annexation; that the Applicant
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shall be required to install a pressurized irrigation system, and
if not so done the property shall be subject to de -annexation.
13. That proper and adequate access to the property is not
available and a variance is necessary to allow the length of the
cul-de-sac.
14. That these conditions shall run with the land and bind
the applicant and its assigns; that the consent of the titled
owners to annexation and zoning must be submitted prior to
annexation; that if their consent is not given the land shall not
be annexed.
15. That it is concluded that the policies found in paragraph
17. of the Findings of Fact are important and, as a condition of
annexation, must be met; that the Applicant is seeking approval of
a preliminary plat and the process for that application meets the
conditional use processing requirement of 5.16U; that the 5.17U
policy indicates that low -to -high density is allowed in the area
and thus the request to zone the property R-8 is compatible for the
area; that the project is an infill project, but the Applicant must
take all measures to protect the surrounding residential areas that
are not zoned R-8; that the requirement of 5.18U must be strictly
adhered to; that to meet the 5.17U requirement it is likely that
more than a six foot fence around the exterior may be required;
that the Applicant shall submit a plan as to how the lots in Doris
Subdivision and Gem Park Subdivision shall be buffered as a
condition of annexation; that this plan must be submitted and
approved by the City prior to an annexation ordinance being adopted
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and shall be part of the development agreement.
16. That as a condition the comments of the City Engineer and
City Planner must be met, including execution of a development
agreement.
17. That it is also ultimately concluded that the Application
for annexation and zoning should be granted if the above conditions
are met, including that the Applicant meet the representations made
to the Commission and provide adequate buffer and screening for the
adjoining residential areas.
10. That it is concluded that if the Applicant does not
desire to meet the above requirement that the property should not
be annexed.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS OF FACT AND CONCLUSIONS
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby adopts and
approves these Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law.
ROLL CALL
HEPPER VOTED
ROUNTREE VOTED
SHEARER VOTED
ALIDJANI VOTED
CHAIRMAN JOHNSON (TIE BREAKER) VOTED
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RECONMENDATION
The Meridian Planning and Zoning Commission hereby recommends
to the City Council that property should be annexed and zoned R-8
if the Applicant meets the conditions stated herein, and any
adopted by the City Council; if the Applicant shall not meet these
conditions and those adopted by the City Council, the Application
should be denied.
MOTION:
APPROVED: DISAPPROVED:
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11-2-401 F so land must be annexed before plat?
11-2-408 B 15 Definition - Industrial - heavy as opposed to
light - see Manufacturing
11-2-409 - Change to add industrial or Heavy Ind.
11-2-410 - Change to state requirements for Industrial or
Heavy Industrial.
Do we want to say "No" to cattle, horses,
sheep, hogs, goats, rabbits, birds or poultry
shall be raised or maintained in the City;
this was in the old old ordinance.
R-8, 15, 40 Do we want changes in these zoning districts
or eliminate them?
Changes in single family detached houses square footage requirement
square foot requirements for duplexes, tri, quad - per unit (see
11-2-411 I)
11-2-411 Repeal or only require it if houses are going
to be less than 1,300 sq. ft. and are in zones
R-8 or 15.
11-2-411 H How about garages or carports for more than
just single family dwellings?
11-2-413 B ? ? ? on this
11-2-414 C 7 e Add R-2 and R-3 this Ord.
11-2-416 E1 State the size of notice that must be places
and that it must be legible and not capable of
damage by weather.
11-2-416 E 2 Change so that the commission can deny an
application and that is where it stays unless
appealed.
11-2-416 F Changes to this Ord.
11-2-417 D Change
11-2-420 A Require and publicize that Zoning Certificates
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must be obtained for any use of land or
building 11-2-420.
11-2-423 Amend
? on Administrative fines
11-2-425 Amend to add new maps and add sections
on page 93
11-2-423 Change to add similar ideas as sewer pre-
treatment Ordinance penalties.
9-601 Require approval of annex and zoning before
preliminary plat; but this section says one-
stop shop
9-604 C 6. d. Legal description must be prepared by Idaho
licensed land surveyor
9-604 C 6. m. show pressurized irrigation]
9-604 C 6. n. Mandatory CC & Rs. for residential, commercial
& industrial
9-604 C 6. s - add proposed development agreement
9-604 C 8 - do we need to add a provision that basically
states notification to other agencies must be
15 or x days prior to the hearing---?? is are
we giving agencies enough time to respond?
9-604 C 6. n. require Homeowners Assoc. w/ Mandatory due to
and 9-605 I maintain common area and any planting strips,
etc.
9-604 C 8. b. req. only one publication 15 days prior -
check if we are publishing for 2 weeks.
9-604 C 10 b. delete the word "finding" - possibly change to
"action"
Do we want to change:
11-9-604 C 10 c. change to 70 days and state that denied plat
goes no further unless appealed and the appeal
is granted -- then it goes to the City
Council.
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9-604 C 6 d licensed land surveyor
9-604 C 6 n require C C& R's
9-604 C 8 state that it will not be placed on agenda
until all requirements have been met.
should we send to agencies on submission to
Administrator
No hearing until comments received and all
requirements of Administrator met
9-604 C 10. a no hearing until Administrator's requirements
met.
9-604 C 10. b change "Finding" to "Action"
9-604 D 1 changes re: denial and appeal
Have Administrator give report on the application at the start of
the hearing both Planning and Zoning and Council
9-604 E 5 do we want this in here or should we take
better advantage of it?
9-604 E. 7 should we remove "finding" from this?
9-604 G make this 30 days
9-604 H. 8 remove "findings"
9-605 G make a req. of all development and change 1 -
"to screen from residential properties"
9-605 I Covenants required
9-605 L. require rather than encouraged
9-605 M Change to 48 inch tile or greater and then no
tiling requirement
9-606 A add "developer" and "land being developed" or
built upon
9-606 B 8. Graveled easements over sewer lines
9-613 A change to pre-treatment enforcement provision
Add administrative penalties to both zoning ord. and subd. ord.
Authority of Resolutions on development requirements
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Provision that Final Plat Controls - not preliminary
Require parks in all subdivisions in excess of acres
with easements for access
Conditional uses in those areas marked as Mixed/Planned Use
Development in Comprehensive Plan
Perimeter fences
Occupancy definition changed
O -lot line development - allowed
- c/u
- not at all
Change Conflict of Interest to meet new State Code
Using bare ground - OK but if associated business, use must get OK
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