HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovembe 20, 2008 P&Z MinutesMeridian Planning & Zoning
November 20, 2008
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Marshall: I move that RZ 08-005 and PP 08-010 be continued to the regularly
scheduled Planning and Zoning Commission meeting of May 22nd, 2009.
O'Brien: May 21st.
Marshall: Of May 21st, 2009. But that the applicant should be required to re-notice and
post for the continued hearing.
O'Brien: I'll second.
Newton-Huckabay: It's been moved and seconded to approve RZ 08 dash -- or
continue RZ 08-005 and PP 08-010 to May 21st, 2009. All those in favor? Opposed?
Motion carves.
MOTION CARRIES: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 6: Continued Public Hearing from October 2, 2008: AZ 08-012 Request
for Annexation and Zoning of 5.03 acres of land from RUT in Ada County
to an R-4 zone for Shays Cove by Landmark Engineering & Planning, Inc.
- 3155 S. Mesa Way:
Item 7: Continued Public from October 2, 2008: PP 08-009 Request for
Preliminary Plat approval of 8single-family residential building lots and 3
common lots on 4.45 acres in a proposed R-4 zoning district for Shays
Cove by Landmark Engineering & Planning, Inc. - 3155 S. Mesa Way:
Newton-Huckabay: Okay. The next item on the agenda is AZ 08-012 and PP 08-009
for Shays Cove. We did continue this hearing from October 2nd and we are hearing
tonight responses based -- based on addition of an extended street, I believe, Sonya.
Wafters: Thank you, Madam Chair, Member of the Commission. At the last
Commission meeting that this was heard on October 2nd; the Commission
recommended that South Coy Place be extended as a stub street to the north property
boundary for future extension and that a temporary turnaround be provided. The
applicant has done this and submitted a revised plat, as you can see there on the
screen. They did eliminate one lot, 8,600 square foot lot off of Mesa Way and has just
included that property in lot -- I believe it's three there. So, the total lot count is reduced
to seven from eight as before shown. Staff will stand for any questions the Commission
may have on that at this time.
Newton-Huckabay: Any questions for staff?
O'Brien: Not at this time.
Newton-Huckabay: Would the applicant like to come forward from clear out there. Nice
diggs, huh.
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Todd: Yeah. Got the wide screen. You guys could do a football game on Saturday.
You guys going to Reno? So am I. I can't wait. Leaving tomorrow morning. My name
is Chris Todd with Landmark Engineering and Planning here on behalf of the developer.
So, thank you for having me here, Madam Chair, Members of the Commission. We did
go through and revise the layout that's in front of you per your recommendations. The
one direction I would like to get from you, it's kind of small, the temporary tumaround, as
it states there in the staff report, that in the staff report that there is no need for a
tumaround or a cul-de-sac below -- or less than 150 feet; is that correct? We will put
one as shown there on the plan. So, the only other questions I had was does the
temporary tumaround have to be installed or can we just do the stub street with the sign
that says the street will be extended in the future. If you look at your staff report, it's
under item number five, just a little clarification from you on that one. That was the only
point. But other than that, we have worked with ACHD and your staff and we look
forward to building this project out. Thank you.
Newton-Huckabay: Any questions?
O'Brien: I have a question, Madam Chair. I missed your first name.
Todd: Chris.
O'Brien: Chris. What is that -- what is going to happen to the property area on the east
side of -- of that stub street? I think it's 4C. It's kind of hard for me to read. What's -- is
that just going to be open space or --
Todd: Yes. That's going to be a common area used for open space and there is a color
exhibit that just got thrown up there, the revised one.
O'Brien: Okay.
Todd: As you know, the property that's out there is very extensively landscaped. It's a
really -- Mr. Shays has gone through and done a great job with his landscaping, so we
are going to continue that in that common area. Probably have to have a little bit of
storm drainage there as well for the site to meet the requirements.
Marshall: One of the questions that came up at the last hearing relative to this property
was the slope of the -- Victory Road coming down near the entrance to Coy Place.
Have you talked with Ada County Highway District? Are there any concems there on --
Todd: There hasn't been any concems brought forth from the highway district
concerning site distance or the site triangle. I don't think they have submitted anything
to the city as well.
Marshall: Okay.
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Todd: But they did -- they did review the new plan that's in front of you and they did rely
on their staff report.
Marshall: Do you know what the speed limit will be? Is it 35 or 40 in that area?
Todd: No, I don't know.
Newton-Huckabay: Commissioner O'Brien. Excuse me. We only instructed the
applicant in our last hearing to address the stub street issue.
O'Brien: Okay.
Newton-Huckabay: And that would be all he came prepared to discuss, I believe.
O'Brien: Okay. I was curious as to -- if that was discussed, but thank you very much.
Todd: Try to keep me on my toes. I like it.
O'Brien: Thank you. That's all I have.
Todd: Thank you.
Newton-Huckabay: There is no one signed up to testify. If you would like to, you can
come forward at this time. Okay. then, we will need no rebuttal. So, any discussion?
Marshall: Madam Chair?
Newton-Huckabay: Commissioner Marshall.
Marshall: I am very happy with the revisions. I think they went quite a ways to meet our
request and I appreciate what they have done. As far as the tumaround, I would ask
staff a little direction on what their -- they are requesting the tumaround; is that correct?
Wafters: The fire department.
Marshall: The fire department's requesting the tum around.
Wafters: Yes. Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, the fire department is
requiring a temporary tumaround. At which time the street is extended in the future that
temporary tumaround would go away. They do require a tumaround over 150 feet in
length and then -- which this is. In addition, they, you know, wouldn't want traffic
backing out on -- on Victory. Yeah.
Marshall: Thank you. With that I'm happy with the changes. Thank you.
Newton-Huckabay: Do we have a motion?
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Rohm: First we got to close the public hearing.
Newton-Huckabay: Oh.
Rohm: Madam Chairman, I move that we close the public hearing on AZ 08-012 and
PP 08-009.
Marshall: Second.
Newton-Huckabay: All those in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Rohm: Go ahead.
Marshall: Madam Chair, after considering all staff, applicant, and public testimony, I
move to approve file numbers AZ 07 -- or 08-012 and PP 08-009 as presented in the
staff report for the hearing date of November 20th, 2008, with no modifications.
Rohm: Second.
Newton-Huckabay: All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carves.
MOTION CARRIED: FOUR AYES. ONE ABSENT.
Item 8: Continued Public Hearing from October 2, 2008: CUP 08-024 Request
for Conditional Use Permit for outdoor speaker systems for the Meridian
High School ball fields in an R-4 zoning district for Meridian High PA
System by Joint School District No. 2 -1900 W. Pine Avenue:
Newton-Huckabay: The next item on the agenda is CUP 08-024 for the Meridian High
PA system and we will start with staff comments.
Wafters: Madam Chair, Members of the Commission, at the last Commission meeting
on October 2nd the Commission directed the applicant to work with Aatronics and the
Geile to determine an appropriate decibel level for the speaker system at the property
line. The applicant has done this and I believe that they have reached an agreement.
That's -- Margie Kennedy will testify to that. That's all staff has.
Newton-Huckabay: Okay. Would the applicant like to come forward.
Kennedy: Good evening, Madam Chair and Commissioners. My name is Margie
Kennedy. I'm with Hummel Architects. 2785 Bogus Basin Road. And we are the
architects representing the Joint School District No. 2 for Meridian High School and,
yes, as Sonya said, last time we met and said that we would get together with the Geile,