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AGENDA
Meridian Planning and Zoning
August 1Q , 1980
ITEM:
Minutes of previous meeting APPROVED
1. Norus Rezone Hearing - Settlers Village to "A" Residential APPROVED
2. J.M.K. Properties Annexation Hearing "C" Commercial TABLED for October, 80
3. Arnold Annexation Hearing DENIED
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Before: PLANNING AND 70NING COMMISSION
Location: 728 Meridian Street
Meridian, Idaho
Time: 8:0~ P.M.
Date: Tues clay
August 19, 1980
Items to be discussed are as follows:
1. Norus Rezone Hearing - Settlers Vil.la4e to "A" Residential
2. J.M.K. Properties Annexation Hearinq "C" Commercial
3. Arnold Annexation Hearing
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Mariciian ('itv Planning and Zonin Au ust 19, 1980
Meeting called to order by Chairman Don Sharp at 8:00 o.m.
Members present: Annette Hinrichs, Lee Mitchell, Bob Spencer
Others attending: Marty Igo, Bill Blankinship,Lee Stucker,
Minutes of previous meeting were approved as corrected, Page 3, paragraph 11
to read, "and detailed enough to prevent someone coming in later and abusing
the plan."
Agenda
1 Norus Rezone Hearing
Bill Blankinship, Boise PAC, was present,. representing the rezone from "C" Commercial
to "A" Residential of a portion of Settlers Village.
Blankinship reviewed history of Settlers Village by displaying maps and stating
that in 1974 the section was zoned commercial (previous hospital planned), in 1978
was platted in this manner. The new owners, Dimeo-Gordon Enterprises are requesting
the portion designed for residential rezoned, but leaving the front Fairview section
as commercial. They have obtained 100% approval of property owners within 300 feet.
A mixed development is planned. The plat was previously approved for 4-plexes, but
Blankinship stated realistically they would not fit on those lots. The density would
also be too great. They are spreading the density, on the west side some 0' lot lines,
split some lots which would not require a variance, the lots around the cul-de-sac
will require a replat for townhouse clustering, streets are in so they have to work
with what is there, the subdivision at this point is just about 95% approved.
There is an architecture theme being set developing the commercial front off Fairview,
in keeping with spirit, color, harmony, unity and scale to the whole project. At the
division of the commercial and residential, there would be a physical barrier keeping
with the architecture theme, oerhaps Spanish type, trees making a gentle division.
The park is attached in the new covenants through a businessmen's association, to the
commercial rather than residential. In the articles they allow for the park to be
free and open to the public, allows for an opening so commercial areas can see easily,
as well as residential. Their covenants have restricted any automotive fronting Fair-
view, not meant to be heavy commercial, and have a planned community.
The maps were concept to show theme. The density approved was approximately 15 upa.
They are looking at an overall of 10 upa not including commercial.
The planning procedure for splitting lots needs to be looked into.
Chairman Sharp called for comments from the public. There were none.
The Plotion was made by Hinrichs and seconded by Spencer to recommend approval of the
portion rezone request of Settlers Village as per the legal description of Norus Annex-
ation #1, dated March 26, 1973.
Motion Carried: All yea.
Agenda
2 JMK Properties Annexation
htarty Igo was present to request annexation of 2.3 acres on the N/E corner of Linder
and Franklin roads.
Igo explained background of proposal. He and his partner, James R. Hollister, acquired
property about a year ago, came before the Planning and Zoning for an informal meeting
for what they might encourage in this location. The oeneral thinking at that time was -
thinrk in terms of Class A Industrial nature, office - warehouse type of combination,
they specifically told him that because of the neighborhood shopping center site on the
south side of the intersection, that retail use would not be allowed, also that time
the new zoning ordinance was being constructed so they were asked to defer this. They
have approached the County, but Central District Health said they could not use their
own sewer and water system because of the proximity of municipal utility - they have
since learned they could hook on to the utilities and stay in county and pay double fees.
Also the County would not zone other than the city recommended. Because of the proximity,
they have decided to work with the city and request under the present ordinance zoning
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Meridian Citv Planning and Zoning .2. August 19, 1980
Igo stated they felt with the industrial trend along the north side of Franklin Rd.
and the railroad tracks within the one-mile of city center, the commercial zone would
be more compatible with the homes to the north. They would be sensitive to those homes
and suit commercial businesses that would be compatible to the neighborhood shopping
center across Franklin, not necessarily the type of service that would go into that
center.
Igo explained the use of warehouse - office combination. A manufacturer representative
might need 500 feet of office and 2 or 3 thousand feet of storage area. This would be
compatible. Also, the Comprehensive Plan calls for clustering of any kind of commercial
uses at the intersection. It certainly is not a single family or multi family location.
Igo stated their interest is to get the process going, work towards the use of that
land keeping with what the city is looking for. Commercial zoning with limited retail
gives them, some flexibility. Light Office may be too restrictive a use of that corner,
and too limiting for some users to locate there.
There is a drain ditch that goes through the property that gives them a usable 3/4 of
and acre front Linder - the balance would have access to Linder.
Igo took the position that their 2 acres is not going to cause an enclave, it may con-
tribute by starting growth on north side, but there is a good 75 acres of land that has
to be dealt with before it becomes an enclave.
Previous proposals around this area that were denied were discussed.
There was considerable discussions concerning zoning this property "C" Commercial with
an attachment, or design review, and the negative feeling for residential at this location
It seems to be a matter of definition of zoning.
There was much discussion in obtaining tennants without zoning determination, or con-
struction without tennants.
It was Sharp's feeling that the parcel to the north and across the tracks that is not
in the city, should not dictate the future of the city. The Commission should do a
good planning process and come up with something for the good of the city.
Mitchell felt all properties should get together.
The chairman called for public comment. There was none.
The Plotion was made by Mitchell and seconded by Hinrichs to table JMK Properties Annex-
ation request until completion of the new zoning and development ordinance.
hlotion Carried: All yea.
Ipo stated if there was not any movement with the zoning ordinance within the next
45 days, or if he has the opportunity to talk to some of the adjacent oroperty
owners, then after that point would have to move on down the line, get this off
the table and try to net something done.
Sharp suggested that he contact the City to check the status of the new zoning
ordinance in October (1980 .
Hinrichs still expressed concern of creating enclaves.
Sharp stated his fear of enclaves were mainly on the frinee (boundaries), the
creation of problems for the Fire and Police Departments.
Spencer stated if all the property all the wav up to City boundary would come in
he would have no problem with Annexation of JP1K Properties.
Igo pointed out the north side of tracks have no ma.ior arterial roads so better
suited for residential. The south side has the ma,ior road system, better suited
for Industrial. 4s an individual property owner he felt he had to take the position
that he could only wait so long for the other 75 acres to do what they want to do
with their own property.
Meridian City Planning and Zoning 3 August 19 1980
Agenda
3 Arnold Annexation Hearing
Lee Stucker was present representing Mrs. Gwendolyn Arnnld property on West Pine,
50 acres which lies roughly 900 feet west of Linder corner.
Maps were displayed.
Stucker stated the reason they are asking for annexation is first because of the
residence that is setting needs City facilities (granted hook-on at double fees
July, 1980) and second to leave the property open for development that is feasible
and being next to the railroad track they felt that Industrial is the property
zoning to ask for. They have a strip of 200 feet along West Pine that they are
requesting to be zoned "C" Commercial.
Sharp felt this was a violation of the Comprehensive Plan and that he felt they
could not approve any Commercial along there. Also, the involvement of Commercial
and Industrial around the Hioh School. Sharp stated he felt it was more of a
medium density - residential area.
Hinrichs stated that she would desire all residential.
There was discussion concerning the new Ordinances and L-0 (Limited Office) zoning.
Stucker stated under the present Ordinances "C" was all they had to use.
Sharp could not go along with 900 feet strip commercial, but some clustered limited
office could be acceptable.
Hinrichs stated that if they would come in with some kind of PUD, with some
limit4d office as a part of it, or some Commercial if it was planned properly
as an intricate part of the PUD, to not create a traffic problem.
Sharp felt the industrial traffic on this part of Pine would be a mistake.
Stucker asked for direction of developing this property, especially as residential
inbetween a railroad track and the High School.
There was much discussion concerning deve1opino this property.
Sharp's feeling was to develop as a PUD, limit4d office towards the back - 8 Plexes
and 4 Plexes bringing the density down coming forward.
It was the feeling of the Commission that a Planned Unit Development could be better
implemented with the new ordinances.
Stucker stated that the City is going to have to work harder to have places
available if the City wants clients (Industrial) to come to Meridian - we need
choices and a place to go. He felt businesses have been lost.
Sharp stated that private enterprises someway, has got to finance - the City cannot
do it. The City has taken criticism, but where are they going to get the money to
take the leadership. The City can only encourage enterprises to do it -
without money they can't build sewers. The City has to take everything one
step at a time.
The Motion was made by Mitchell and 2nd by Hinrichs that the Arnold .4nnexation,
West Pine, be denied.
P1otion Carried: All yea
The Motion was made by Hinrichs and seconded by Spencer that the meeting be adjourned.
Motion C rried: All yea.
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