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MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING /WORKSHOP
AGENDA
Wednesday, July 9, 2008 at 8:00 a.m.
City Council Chambers
33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
"Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn testimony,
all presentations before the Mayor and City Council are expected
to be truthful and honest to best of the ability of the presenter."
1. Roll-call Attendance:
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~ Charlie Rountree / Keith Bird
,/Mayor Tammy de Weerd
2. Adoption of the Agenda: ~°--
3. Presentations and Discussions of the Proposed City Department
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Revenue Presentation /Finance Department
Parks Department
Break
Legal, HR, IT Departments (Boise Prosecution)
Police Department
Lunch -Working
Fire Department
Mayor's Office
Stacy Developmental Services Presentation
Planning /Building Department
Other Government
City Council Budget Decisions
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING /WORKSHOP
AGENDA
Wednesday, July 9, 2008 at 8:30 a.m.
City Council Chambers
33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho
`Although the City of Meridian no longer requires sworn testimony,
all presentations before the Mayor and City Council are expected
to be truthful and honest to best of the ability of the presenter."
1. Roll-call Attendance:
David Zaremba Joe Borton
Charlie Rountree Keith Bird
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
2. Adoption of the Agenda:
3. Presentations and Discussions of the Proposed City Department
Budgets (approximate times):
8:00 am Introduction /Preparations
8:15 am Revenue Presentation /Finance Department
8:30 am Parks Department
9:30 am Break
9:40 am Legal, HR, IT Departments (Boise Prosecution)
10:40 am Police Department
11:40 pm Lunch -Working
12:10 pm Fire Department
1:10 pm Mayor's Office
2:10 am Stacy Developmental Services Presentation
2:25 pm Planning /Building Department
3:25 pm Other Government
3:45 pm City Council Budget Decisions
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NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING
MERIDIAN CITY COUNCIL
Mayor Tammy de Weerd
City Council Members:
Keith Bird
Joe Borton
Charles Rountree
David Zaremba
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the City Council of the City of
Meridian will hold a Special Meeting /Workshop in the City Council Chambers at
Meridian City Hall, 33 East Idaho Avenue, Meridian, Idaho, on Wednesday, July
9th, 2008 at 8:00 am. The Meridian City Council will be receiving and discussing
preliminary budgets and presentations from each specific department of the City
of Meridian towards approving a tentative budget.
DATED this 3rd day of July, 2008.
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City of Meridian
Budget Hearing Presentation Schedule
FY2009 Budget
July 14, 2008
1:00 pm to 6:00 pm
Start End Minutes Department
1:00 - 1:15 0:15 Council assemble, review any additional materials
1:15 - 5:00 3:45 Enterprise Fund
5:00 - 6:00 1:00 Council budget decisions
July 9, 2008
8:00 am to 5:00 pm
Start End Minutes Department
8:00 - 8:15 0:15 Council assemble, review any additional materials
8:15 - 8:30 0:15 Revenue Presentation/Finance Department
8:30 - 9:30 1:00 Parks Department
9:30 - 9:40 0:10 BREAK
9:40 - 10:40 1:00 Legal, HR, IT (Boise Prosecution included)
10:40 - 11:40 1:00 Police Department
11:40 - 12:10 0:30 LUNCH -working
12:10 - 1:10 1:00 Fire Department
1:10 - 2:'10 1:00 Mayor's Office
2:10 - 2:25 0:15 Stacy Development Services Presentation
2:25 - 3:25 1:00 Planning/Building Department
3:25 - 3:45 0:20 Other Government
3:45 - 5:00 1:15 Council budget decisions
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Meridian City Council Special Workshop Meeting July 9, 2008
A meeting of the Meridian City Council was called to order at 8:00 a.m., Wednesday,
July 9, 2008, by Mayor Tammy de Weerd.
Members Present: Tammy de Weerd, David Zaremba, Keith Bird, Joe Borton, and
Charlie Rountree.
Others Present: Directors -Staff.
Item 1: Roll-call Attendance:
Roll call.
X David Zaremba X Joe Borton
X Charlie Rountree X Keith Bird
X Mayor Tammy de Weerd
De Weerd: Okay. We will go ahead and get this meeting started. I'd like to thank all
the directors that are here for being here and certainly would like to thank Stacy and her
staff for all the work and preparation you put into getting ready for today. For the
• record, it is Wednesday, July 9th. It's 8:00 o'clock. And we will start with roll call
attendance. Madam Clerk.
Item 2: Adoption of the Agenda:
De Weerd: Okay. Item 2 is adoption of the agenda.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I move we adopt the agenda as published.
Borton: Second.
De Weerd: Okay. I have a motion and a second to adopt the agenda as published. All
those in favor say aye. You even said it before I asked you.
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
Item 3: Presentations and Discussions of the Proposed City Department
Budgets (approximate times):
8:00 am Introduction /Preparations
8:15 am Revenue Presentation /Finance Department
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went through and we came to a consensus on what items we wanted to leave in for the
current year, what items we might want to put off to the next year, what we could do
with .available funding. I think we started with like 13, 14, 15 million more enhanced
dollars than we had money for. So, it was a process we haven't really done as a group
before and I was skeptical, I'm telling you, I was very skeptical, but it actually worked
very well. Everybody really was able to prioritize what they really needed and explain it
to the group and go ahead and leave things in or plan things for next year. So, are
there any questions about the process that we went through? I think in your books you
have all the initial enhancements and you can see where they were withdrawn and so
forth. So, the first -- the first thing I'm going to do, I'm just going to -- we have gone
through the revenue manual and we haven't changed that. I'm just going to do a brief
fund discussion and this is the General Fund -- this is a budgeted fund balance
projection, so I have -- this is just as it is budgeted. It contains no projections. So, it's
telling you what will our unreserved fund balance look like if we spent exactly what we
budgeted and we took exact revenue that we budgeted. So, you can see we have left
in the 6.5 million dollar operating reserve, giving us an unreserved balance of basically
almost six million by the end of the year. Now, that being said, we will probably have
revenue savings of -- I would say at least a million dollars and I'm sure we will have
operating savings. So, that position can improve by, you know, up to two million, two
and a half million, but being conservative we just want to say that we are looking six
million dollars ending fund balance. The next slide is the impact fee funds and fFre and
police have actually out performed their budget numbers. I'm sure they will slightly
exceed their budget numbers. And one of the reasons is because they not only get
residential impact fees, but they get impact fees on commercial building permits. The
parks department -- you know, mid way through the year we were looking at maybe up
to 300,000 dollars revenue under budget, but I just looked at it in June and I -- I'm
thinking it will be around 150 under budget. So, you can see that. It leaves them with a
negative fund balance of about 200,000. The fire truck fund is just -- it's not an impact
fee fund, but I just stuck it on here, because it is a fund we have. One of the ideas that
we have, because we have some big public safety projects that we need to start saving
for and we try -- you know, looking at what we need to budget currently and how can we
save for those projects and because we have experienced savings in the General Fund
over the last few years, one of the ideas that we looked at is perhaps we can take a
portion of that savings and put it into this fire truck fund and change the name of the fire
truck fund into a public safety fund, because the fund's already established, it's already
in the system, it's already got a bank account, and that will allow us to start building up
some money for the firing range, the police station expansion, replacement of fire
trucks, et cetera. So, we won't know -- we know -- we really don't know exactly what the
left over is until we go through the year end close, so the idea is that maybe we could
get to the year end close and automatically part of our budgeting process was that in
January, we looked at what's left and we make a determination X percent or half or all of
it goes into this public safety fund. So, that's kind of one of the new ideas we came up
with this year. I'm actually -- this is on your agenda for me to do right before the
development planning, but since we are in fund balance I'm going to do this now. This
is a projected fund balance. The General Fund fund balance I gave you was a
budgeted one and this is actually a projected one. So, those are not budget numbers,
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the CIP fund and we have spent -- we did -- oh, we did a project at the police station
think with the K-9 training facility and one small park project and, then, the rest of that is
being spent -- has been spent for the City Hall. Okay. So, the final slide that you can
just take and stick in our book or whatever, is a history of the General Fund balance per
the audit and it shows you the four funds that make up the General Fund. The debt
reserve is just the 400,000 we have to keep reserved for police station debt and, then,
the VIP fund, impact fee fund, and the unreserved General Fund balance. And this one
-- I haven't done a projection yet, but probably will do that and have it in your financial
statements -- your monthly statements soon. So, are there any questions on any of
that? Okay. The next part is my actual presentation. My presentation -- since I have
no fees or no enhancements, I'm just going to review our strategic plan a little bit and
tell you what we plan to do over the next year with our budget dollars and these -- these
challenges are taken from our strategic plan and I'm just -- I'm not going to go through
the whole strategic plan in agonizing detail, but to highlight some of what we feel are
external challenges, one of our big challenges is something that we spend a lot of staff
time on is the result of fiscal irresponsibility that governments and corporations have
been guilty of the last few years. That has generated a tremendous amount of change
in legal and statutory requirements for my profession for our accounting statements, the
way statements are done, and I'm sure that wave of bank misconduct this past year will
generate even more changes. So, that's a big focus for us is maintaining -- you know,
maintaining and following through those rules and regulations. And, again, that's the
same with the second -- the second one that changed in the generally accepted
accounting principles has become extremely complex and as you heard me whine last
year about the audit, because it really focused a lot of responsibility back on the entity
itself, which is good. I mean it makes for a higher level of ethics, it makes for a higher
level of accountability and transparency. One of the big challenges for us is that
ultimately, no matter who comments on it, the finance staff is responsible for all the
financial transactions of the city and sometimes it's hard -- we don't actually come up
with these rules ourselves. You know, they are rules that are standard practice or they
are regulatory or legal and we need to be able to explain that to staff.
De Weerd: See, we thought you all just sat back and schemed on what you could put
us through the next --
Kilchenmann: Yeah.
Zaremba: And that's why you made it up every time differently.
Kilchenmann: No. We are not that creative. So, sometimes it's a challenge for us to
explain that and -- and get everybody to buy into it, because there are things that do
create extra work for all of us. Another one of our challenges has to do with changes in
technology or, for instance, bank regulations. For example, when we went to Check 21
-- and I don't know if you have heard of that, but those are rules governing how banks
handle transactions and Jaycee can attest to this, but the complexity in doing credit
cards is a lot more than we expected. We have bank regulations to follow. We have
reconciliations that are very time consuming. We have 15 people who we all have to
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Lavoie: Good morning, Madam Mayor, Council.
De Weerd: Good morning.
Lavoie: As Stacy said, I'm going to talk about the operations. What we are going to do
with the future monies that you guys allocate to us. I'll try and do it pretty quick for you.
The first thing that we are going to talk about is the payroll and HR. In conjunction with
the HR department and Bill's staff, we are going to be installing a new program called
ABRA. It's going to be a one stop shop for all HR and payroll functions. So, what it's
going to do is eliminate a lot of duplicate paperwork processes we currently have in-
house right now. We are still in a data conversion stage, but it should be in full force,
full use fiscal year 2009. The next thing we are going to look at is accounts payable.
You heard me use a word paperless. We are looking at making the accounts payable
paperless. We are going to look at scanning documentation in our accounting software,
then, that can be referenced at anytime, anywhere, via the web and whatnot and we
won't have to go to a file anymore. If anybody in the field wants to look at what's
attached to the, you know JW bill, they can look at it right then and there if they want to
come to the site about A-B. MIP. That's our accounting software. We are actually
looking at purchasing a new module that will be a front end reporting tool for most of --
it's abig director project manager -- big director manager type of module. That's going
to give a lot of key indicators right then and there in the front page. They won't have to
ask for reports, it will be instantaneous on time, like six or seven key indicators that they
so desire. That should be in full production FY09 as well. Policies and procedures, as
Stacy talked about, we kind of need to start looking at our policies, with the IRS laws
changing every day. The GASB changes. We just need to be held accountable for
everything we decide on, everything we spent, .like Stacy said. Everything comes down
the Finance Department. If it's spent, it's our responsibility. We just need to kind of
retool apologies, make sure we are in compliance with everybody. We just don't want to
make -- make sure we stay out of trouble. That's our ultimate goal. A clean audit is our
number one thing. Our goal is to have a clean audit, but it takes a lot of work to get
that. So, with policies, controls, and changes, we think we can get that. MUBS. We
are looking at actually purchasing a tool that will scan our checks directly from the
office, instead of going to the bank. So, we will get our money into the bank faster,
which will yield a higher interest turning to us. That should be in full production in the
next few months. We are -- or you almost got that purchased. Sheltie Gallagher, the
new MUBS manager, she's got that going for us. She looked into it and it's going to be
pretty useful we think. The budget -- as you see, the budget book is big. It gets bigger
every year. We'd like to look at a new tool that's going to be electronic that's going to be
web based, that's going to consolidate a lot of this work. It's pretty manual. It's a very
manual interface. Let me rephrase that. It's very manual right now, as a lot of your
directors know and you guys know. There are tools out there that will completely -- not
completely, but, you know, make it pretty seamless where you don't have to do as much
manual work, it could be all a line, it's going to be realtime data, so if you want to do
your budget at anytime, you go to the web. So, we are looking into that. We haven't
found the tool yet, but we will be looking at it in fiscal year'09. Hopefully'010 or'011 we
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acquire those or as you acquire those, are you going to establish some matrix to tell us
that, in fact, you did become more efficient and the expenditures were worthwhile?
Lavoie: Councilman Rountree, we will definitely be working with the MIS committee first
before we purchase anything, to make sure that it is in compliance to the -- the rule that
Terry and IT staff has set for the backup -- you know, the support. Then, hopefully, we
will be available to give you the matrix that say that, you know, we are going to be able
to save X amount of time or X amount of dollars and be more efficient. We will definitely
do that analysis first.
Rountree: Certainly would be something I'd be looking for.
Kilchenmann: For example, the ABRA that you -- you actually approved that in last
year's budget and that is -- I think that is -- we can measurable results and I think we
can give those to you. In fact, we can actually implement it and we can follow up and
give you per -- we have already discovered it saves double entry, because HR isn't
entering and we had HR entering it into -- like Excel stand alone and, then, Barb
entering it into the MIT system. Or Audi entering it twice. So, this will eliminate -- Audi
won't need any of those other systems, it will all be in ABRA and, .then, ABRA
downloads to MIT once a month and all those changes automatically come over.
Rountree: Just for me and maybe the rest of the Council, but that kind of feedback is
what I like to hear, is that are the outcomes what we expect.
Kilchenmann: Yeah. This one I think we can definitely say they are. Barb's all happy.
Rountree: Oh, that's good.
Kilchenmann: And when payroll is happy, we are all happy.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: On that same line, it would be helpful to know if money has been saved and
time has been saved. But I would also have a line in there that says this is a service we
didn't provide before, if there was a new service that was available, because it was now
easier to do, that helps, too.
De Weerd: Well -- and I think that the goal here is not only to create better efficiencies
and tools for our staff, but also to continue to built on the transparency that the Finance
Department has really been striving for over the last several years and access to the
numbers and that sort of thing from our citizens. So, it has two purposes on this and,
certainly, I know the -- the MTI or whatever that committee is -- it's goal is to create
systemwide programs that allow better efficiencies across the board in all departments.
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Bird: I know a lot of snow plowers in the McCall area just use a one ton truck.
Siddoway: We have one one ton truck.
Bird: Why couldn't a snow plow be put on it in the wintertime?
Siddoway: I don't know. Could you talk to that, maybe, Elroy?
Huff: Mayor, Members of Council, Councilman Bird,
those before. I think it might be possible. It's a rea~
maneuverability with that in some of the situations we
was part of why the enhancement is the way it is.
trucks I see locally that are plowing are four by fours.
you put enough weight in your one ton you can -- you
you get it distributed right.
have never put one on one of
long truck. We look for some
have to get into, so I think that
have seen some -- most of the
I think in a one ton situation, if
can probably make that work if
Bird: You got one over there, a red one, that's fixed like a construction truck that should
have enough weight in the back. I'm sure that's a one ton. That red -- isn't that a red
one ton?
Huff: It is a one ton. Actually, I was thinking about the newer one ton that we use on a
daily basis that --
Bird: You have got -- most of them got duals on the back and I have always found that
a two wheel drive one ton is easier to tum in tight comers than a four wheel drive in four
wheel. I have had four wheels for four years, so --
Huff: The only one that I would use that I think is safe enough that we could take a look
at is the -- the longer one ton. The red one for backing up and going forward and doing
things like that, I'm not comfortable with the visibility in that truck at all. But, other than
that, it's certainly heavy enough -- it's one of the older trucks that we have in the fleet,
but it's -- it's a heavy one. It's --
Bird: My'concern on buying afour -- four-by-four just to do snow plowing is last year we
did have to plow, but there has been years where you have had to plow. So, you're
investing 32,000 in something that might be used once every ten years, where you
could buy a two ton -- half ton pickup to do 99 percent of your work at half the cost.
That's all I was looking at and you got a truck over there that you could just put a plow
on.
Huff: That truck also, if we were to fund that, would also be a full time tow vehicle for a
couple of things that we are doing now that we are towing as we are on the edge of not
being safe as where we should be. So, that's afull-time truck used in towing all the time
during the summer months and there is not an idle time for that truck.
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dollars and about 37,500 dollars would be city funded, with the anticipation of the
balance of that either being funded in a partnership with MDC or waiting. We were
fortunate -- well, we met with -- we met with MDC a couple of weeks ago. They had
asked us to look at ways to decrease those costs. We were fortunate in that the same
day at AIC there was a vendor for commercial Christmas decorations and their prices
were quite a bit cheaper. So, we have been in contact with them over this past week in
bids and working this out. If you look at the -- the second page of I just handed out. A
little section in bold in the middle. The proposed amount for MDC to fund would drop
46,000 to 22,300 under this proposal and the proposed amount for the city would drop
from 37,500 to 20,600. What that gets us is Christmas lights on the new City Hall, both
on the building and on the trees surrounding City Hall. Anew 16 foot Christmas tree for
the foyer of City Hall. And for the main street light poles along -- along Main Street and,
then, banners and lights for those banners along Main Street. Questions? Okay. Our
seventh one is Heritage Middle School ball field fencing for just under 40,000 dollars.
The sideline fencing along those fields are -- are four feet. We feel that there is a safety
concern for overthrows and we'd like #o raise those to eight feet per city standard.
There are no outfield fences at this time. We would like to add those to demarcate
where the outfield line is and, then, encroachment from people that are spectators, as
well to give an edge to that for home runs and such. The School District, Ihave -- it --
had aconversation and I had an a-mail from Dr. Linda Clark stating that they are willing
to fund half of that 20,000 dollars. We feel it's important for safety and I have also
thought, given the potential controversy of funding improvements on the ball field, how
could we -- how could we recoup some of our costs associated with this that looked at
the possibility of increasing our team fees for the softball league and teams that play out
there 25 dollars to help recoup those fencing costs over time. I conservatively
estimated, based on the registrations that we were currently seeing, that we would
anticipate about 1,250 dollars a year by increasing the fees 25 dollars per team.
Bird: Steve, on that same deal when we -- when we had talked about Heritage fields
earlier, I believe Councilman Rountree and myself asked that once this league was --
the fast pitch league was over we would get a report on how many citizens of the City of
Meridian -- taxpayers of the City of Meridian was involved in that -- I believe that it was
over. Could we get that within a couple weeks?
Siddoway: I don't know if we will know where each player came from. I will try and get
that. I can tell you, though, that they did come from all over the valley. I mean this is
seen as a regional facility and we did have teams coming from as far away as Twin
Falls and Fruitland to be able to play here on those fields. The turf equipment, we are
asking for an enhancement to purchase a turf slicer as part of our turf management
program that we are implementing. A turf slicer is similar to an aeriator, but it does not
leave the messy plugs up on top where our parks are pretty well year around. We have
a lot of mess associated with the plugs when we aeriate. This will help with soil
compaction from heavy use in our parks and will help us avoid more costly renovation
projects like we are seeing on the baseball field out at Settlers Park this year. Okay.
The adult sports expansion enhancement for 5,000 dollars is to fund the cost associated
with a growing sports program, but this enhancement will be off-set by revenues. I
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Borton: And it kind of ties it down to the cost for the community center and the rec
programs and costs and revenue offsets. Is there anything that --
Siddoway: Yeah. I do have cost versus revenues already pulled together for sports
and recreation. I have not factored in the community center into those, because it's just
been looking at our trends up until now, but we can add -- we could add that, make
some projections, and bring that back.
Borton: Okay. That would be great.
Siddoway: Okay.
Borton: On the Heritage ball field fences, that's phenomenal if the district's apparently
committed some funds. I know there was discussion trying to get some of those private
clubs to participate. My initial reaction would be -- and maybe this was the district's, too
-- to be reluctant even budget for it and really try and help get them on the hot seat to
participate like they have originally told us they would.
Siddoway: The sports teams you mean?
Borton: Yeah. Some of the private clubs. It's used a ton. I'm out there a bunch. It's
really popular. So, I don't know if you let their obligation off the hook too easy if we fund
-- and maybe the district would feel the same way, if we fund it all and really they have
no skin in the game. So, that's just one concern on that.
Siddoway: Okay.
De Weerd: I guess, Mr. Borton, just a comment on that. They were looking at the
partnership for the dugouts and benches and those kind of things that --the fencing was
more of a safety issue that we felt was important. I guess that -- when we talk to
partnership with the different clubs, the people we originally talked to were no longer
involved in that, but I believe that those -- those expectations or suggestions have
certainly been out there. The fencing is a little bit different from what that was, but --
and that's why I guess Steve came back and said -- is looking at increasing the team
fees, so that we can recoup those costs over time. I just wanted to -- in the original
discussions that was a little bit different and unfortunately --
Siddoway: I don't know a lot of that history.
De Weerd: Yeah. Unfortunately, the fencing we weren't a part of the decision on what
fencing went in and it is a safety issue that brought this up.
Borton: I appreciate that. It begs the question that maybe I need the update from
current status of their obligation for the dugouts or whatever. What specifically these
private groups are going to be doing in that process, how much they have raised --
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Borton: So, if we said we want to cut the program, what does that mean? And I'm not
saying I do or we do, but just to be able to know that would save the city 2,000 dollars or
82,000 dollars or -- I just don't know.
Siddoway: Do you know a ballpark? Allison tracks that budget directly, so --
Kaptein: Okay. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, Councilman Borton, the -- last
year or the year before -- it was last year when we were doing budgets, last year we
had 6,000 dollars approved to add to my base recreation class expense budget for the
after school program. We did not spend all of that money, but that's approximately what
is allocated. The issue with cutting the after school program -- and I would need to
explore this further with the middle school, my understanding last summer was that if we
were not going to run the middle school after school program, the middle school was not
going to allow us to use their site for recreation classes, which pretty much leaves us
with nothing. So, that -- and that was my understanding coming into it, having been
hired in June, with budgets in July and just jumping straight into summer crazy
recreation programs. That was my understanding from Mrs. Austin, the principal over at
Meridian Middle. Things may be different now, but it was kind of a -- we will see if we
can use our building when the Council approves the after school program. So, that is
where we are at, I think.
Borton: Okay.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Bird.
Bird: Allison, don't leave.
Kaptein: Yes, sir.
Bird: Repeat that for me. We are talking about the Bill Berg and West Lowe gyms not
being able to be used if we don't fund this after school program?
Kaptein: I don't believe that the gyms were included in that. And we are talking
specifically more classroom space, cafeteria, for the recreation classes that we hold,
ballroom dance, art, those sorts of things. I don't believe the sports program is affected
by that; You'd have to double-check with Colin, but that's my understanding.
Bird: I don't like to be threatened by anything. Not when over half my tax bills go to the
school district.
Kaptein: Thank you.
Borton: Thank you. Thanks, Steve.
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Siddoway: Okay.
Rountree: My big concern with that kind of increase, given the year we have got, out of
the General Fund -- and I just threw out some concerns I have where potential cuts are.
That's my opinion. There is four of us, so we will find out how we do this as we go
through the day.
Siddoway: Yeah. I'm not sure fully how to respond, other than to say that we have
worked together as a team to try and bring you a balanced budget based on Stacy's
conservative revenue projections. So, I believe that the funds are there and just hope
that we can fund those items that you see as important to the city.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: Just a comment also. I agree with Councilman Rountree that this is a year
for belt tightening all the way around, but on behalf of our citizens, who are also belt
tightening, we are likely to see increased use of stay at home, use our parks, as
opposed to taking the trip to Yellowstone or someplace else and I think certainly the
enhancements to complete parks, the facilities that are in the parks and available to the
citizens to use, I think those are important to get done.
Siddoway:. And I would add that we continue to look for cost savings opportunities
through things that we can do in house, as well as those partnerships and leveraging
volunteers whenever possible.
Rountree: Oh. And one other comment. What about recycled material furnishings for
the community center, apply for a matching grant, which I'm sure you'd get.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Bird.
Bird: I, too, agree with Councilman Rountree, but he said it a little nicer than I was
going to. The phase one, Steve -- and I realize that it isn't your problem out there, but
we did budget for it and I thought that was in the plans to get started as soon as spring
weather broke and, to be truthful with you -- and we discussed this. I'm quite shocked
that it wasn't, but that's certainly not your fault. I just feel the same way, that there is --
we have just -- it's hard when everybody else is cutting budgets and cutting costs and
we are adding 23 percent. Now, we have got -- in my opinion, we have got a pretty
good -- for ten years a pretty good parks system. The employees and stuffs done a
great job and administration getting that -- we know we are not complete. Our
recreation program is ten times better than it was ten years ago. So, I -- but Ijust -- I
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Rountree: Madam Mayor, you know, you talk about Heroes Park. I -- and we've all
agreed that the restrooms are a priority and there is no question and I know that's the
biggest portion of that. With respect to your comment about we have an obligation,
understand that nowhere anywhere have I seen what that obligation is at this point in
time.
De Weerd: And we will respect that, too.
Rountree: And we need that. And I know that we probably aren't going to get that
percentage down that much, but if we get it down three to six percent on some of these
things that, yeah, they are important, but I got to tell you you probably can get by
another year until the times are a little better without the tree inventory system. That's
17,000 -- that's almost 18,000 dollars. And, you know, in our multi-million dollar budget
that's chump change, but, you know, it works on that percentage, is this year we need
that or could it wait a year.
Siddoway: Well, that's why toward the end -- we have prioritized what we see as the --
the order of priority, so that one is toward the end of that list.
De Weerd: Well, Steve, what I would ask is maybe you and Elroy can huddle and see
what -- what you can bring back to respond to Council's comments, see if we can get an
update on our match to the Capital Improvement Plan and our impact fee obligations
and just have that so that there can be more robust discussion during the discussion
phase. Does that sound reasonable?
Bird: That sounds reasonable to me. I'm like Councilman Rountree, I mean Heroes
Park, the reason --
Rountree: I mean I'm a little grumpy this morning, because I had to get up early, so
don't know about the rest of these guys.
De Weerd: Oh, gosh, congratulations, Steve, on being the first up. One for the team.
Thank you. Thank you, Steve.
Siddoway: Thank you.
De Weerd: Appreciate it. We are a little bit behind schedule, but we will keep going on
if -- Council, if you don't mind. We are going to break or do you need a five minute
break?
Rountree: I'm just getting geared up for Keith.
De Weerd: Okay. Maybe -- oh, oh. Maybe they need a five minute break. We will take
a five minute break. Okay. Just switch over.
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Borton: Real quick. Does that termination mean termination or they left?
Nary: Both. When we classify termination is both the voluntary and involuntary
termination. So, that's everyone that's left, including retirees.
Borton: Thank you. Sony.
De Weerd: No, that's --
Nary: Next, our current benefits have not changed as to what we offer to employees.
We have a Blue Cross program. Delta dental. We have a vision provider to Blue
Cross. We provide the flexible spending account for folks, including the benefit cards.
We now have 138 employees. If you remember three and a half years ago when I
came here we had less than a hundred employees, we had about 80 that were in the
program at the time, now it's 138. Part of that has been through your being able to fund
the program and being able to make it make more available for employees. Prior to me
coming here as the HR director, all the employees had to pay for the program
themselves, which meant very few ever used it. Now, we have a much higher usage
and what we find, again, as I told you in the past, flexible spending is probably the one
benefit that benefits both the employee and the city, because it lowers the employee's
income -- of taxable income, it also -- it also lowers the contribution that the city has to
make towards that. This year, unfortunately, right now we are looking at a potential 11
percent increase. We, actually, had originally budgeted the potential of a 15 percent
increase. That's overall. Most of that is driven by Blue Cross. We are going to market
this plan to Blue Shield to see if we can get a better rate, either from Blue Cross from
that or from Blue Shield. Blue Shield has improved in the quality of services and their
ability to provide greater services in the last few years and other cities have done the
same thing and have been successful at being able to get better rates. We are hopeful
to bring that 11 percent down a little bit, if at all. But that's our objective right now. I did
give approval to our consultants yesterday to go ahead and market the plan. We do
provide all employees with life insurance. We provide them with short term disability
and long term disability, as well as, of course, the AP, and, then, PERSI, of course, is a
required benefit that we provide. We have optional benefits for employees to access,
including the Person Choice Plan, which, essentially, is an additional 457 type of plan.
We have a variety of different financial management plans. We have had Chris Kline,
he just, in fact, sent me yesterday a request that he was going to be doing an analysis
for us to see what types of plans we use and what might be better in the marketplace for
our employees to access. Again, these are voluntary. The city doesn't contribute to
them, but it might give employees better information for long term retirement needs. We
are also looking at the potential --
De Weerd: Well -- and, Bill, I think on that, we want to have an assessment in how
those plans perform and if we are offering them to our staff and they are poor
performers, we really don't want to --
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many of them. We are going to look at trying to target different areas of where people
live and maybe that might be something we can work out through scheduling to be able
to allow employees that live say in Middleton, Star, or somewhere else, that they could
actually car pool to work together.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Zaremba: I'm sure you're aware of this, but the ACHD Commuter Ride program will
help you put that together.
Nary: Yes. Yes. And that's exactly where we would go. Once we get our data
together that's the next step is trying to figure out how we can make that work with.
ACRD, because they already have a program in place that we don't have to recreate.
So, no, I totally agree with you, Councilman. The employee workout program. This is
really a desire of the wellness committee for the last couple of years is that we have that
in the new City Hall. It is designed. It's a very large room. We are working with the fire
department and a vendor to look at outfitting that room. What we have found and what I
was able to report back to the employee committee at the last meeting is that gives us
LEED points. That's a benefit to the city that we unintended at the time it was thought
of, that, ultimately, now, besides the value that it brings to the employees to give them
an opportunity to use the facility in the building, have showers and lockers and things
like that, but be able to use that for the employees' benefit, also benefits the city in the
LEED category. We have done some policy revisions. Two of them were probably the
most significant that you all are aware of was the travel policy -- we made some
significant changes in that. You have seen that now reflected in the budget, trying to
comply with the IRS regulations. We have broken that out now and now we have the
per diem policy in place and we have found -- although it's still in its infancy it still seems
to be working well. People seem to get it. Obviously, we will have some fine tuning to
it, but, generally, the policy I think is -- was put together very well and I think
everybody's contribution really helped make it something usable for the department.
The drug free workplace, as you know, we were responding to a -- a federal case out of
this circuit that prohibited drug testing in certain areas. What we did in revising that was
to eliminate it for the ones that the courts don't allow, but make it real clear that when
we are talking about a drug free workplace in the City of Meridian, we are not just
talking about illegal drugs, we are also talking about abusing alcohol that has an impact
on your job. We want to make that clear to all employees that those two things that this
city is concerned with and it's not necessarily going to tolerate and that it can impact
your employment. We -- over the last year and a half or so we have had amulti-
department code enforcement team. We meet monthly with the police department,
code enforcement folks, Lieutenant Overton's group and Sergeant Gonzales and the
four code enforcement officers, my staff, the planning department and the building
department to address exactly what's up there. Garbage, weeds, and signs. We deal
with that monthly, what can be there, what can't be there. Mrs. Kane from my office has
been the primary contact for many of the issues that we have from the police. The rock
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De Weerd: That's something to brag about.
Nary: Yeah. It's by design. All the directors chipped in and said maybe we won't have
the Mayor access that. That would be a good thing.
De Weerd: No more 2:00 a.m. e-mails.
Nary: We had a graphic design intern this last year, Brianna McCutchen, and she was
able to help many different programs and departments in trying to put better graphics on
their -- on the Internet, whether it was to provide a logo for like the Mayor's book club --
it was a different skill set than we have had in the past in the IT department and it's
been really -- it was really a nice addition. I mean she brought just a different flavor, a
different set of skills and it was a real accomplishment for IT. Next.we did receive AIT
achievement award this year for the internship program. We have had it in place for a
few years. We found it to be very successful. It's a lot better than the flat figure I
thought was a lot nicer.
De Weerd: He said it was subtle.
Nary: Yeah. The AIT recognized that that value that we have of providing an
opportunity for these high school students to work in a workplace, many of the folks that
-- I'm sure many of you interacted with over the years, whether it was Brianna, whether
it was Shawn, whether it was Nick, whoever went -- Zach. We have had some great
interns here that have been -- I think it's been good for them, it's been good for us, they
are cheap help and were great help and they are -- and they are here to learn. Terry
has been a great mentor and guide to them. They have teamed a lot about working in
the workplace and I think they make better workers where ever they go, because they
have had an opportunity, as young adults, to work here and see what it's like to work in
an office environment and in this type of workforce and I think it's been a good thing for
everybody. Future needs. Things that we are looking at. City Hall work space.
Obviously, as we all move into City Hall there are different needs that are going to come
up and we are looking at how we do our business and how we can do it more efficiently
and better in our work space. We did a walk through last week with some of the folks,
legal -- our HR folks walked through a little before that -- to try to see how we can make
that acceptable for the public and acceptable for the employees and we will be probably
working on that for at least the next year. Department alignment. As we get larger in
the city, as we have greater needs in the city, we need to look at how our department
itself is aligned and how we can make it, again, more efficient and more responsive to
the workforce. Again, we have a large work force. It continues to evolve. The needs
that they have, the issues that they have and sometimes the conflicts that they have are
things that we have to address both from the legal side, as well as the human resources
side. The public connection to us, whether it's people that are applying for jobs, people
that make inquiries about different activities in the city are doing, whether they think it's
a legal issue or something else, we have to make sure we are able to respond to the
public in a timely manner, meet their expectations. There are technology improvements
every day. You will see some of those in the enhancements that we are looking at. We
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department. I want to make sure we have the ability to have outreach with the
employees, to have a place for employees -- decide right now -- Audi is busy with the
benefits work that's necessary in handling both the worker's comp issues, as well as the
benefits issues and she certainly has a lot of contact with employees. But Audi's
position doesn't have enough time in the day to deal with conflict issues or any other
types of things other than benefits. Nancy's position is the only one we have, besides
myself, to deal with any of those things. That's the reason for this request is to allow us
the ability to realign, to look at a different structure for HR for our long term needs to
have some succession planning, but also to get to provide both investigative expertise
when we have some needs. We have outsourced a couple of times when we have had
those needs, because we didn't have the time in house to do it. We also do -- some of
the training right now is done by outside vendors. We will probably still have some of it
be done by outside vendors, but some of it can be done internally, especially
compliance type of issues, and that's my objective is to look for somebody that can help
us with internal training, whether it's Family Medical Leave training, whether it's
Americans with Disabilities Act training, whether it's FLSA training -- we have many of
those things from a compliance standpoint we just don't have the time to do and don't
have the time always or the money to hire vendors to do it for us. We have a large work
force in different locations and so we really -- having a person to be able to do that I
think would be a better asset for the city and increase our level of service. Next
professional services. This is the same number we have had in the last few years, but
in the past we had dedicated that funds to our -- essentially management leadership
vender with AspireOn. We still want to do some of that work, but in meeting with all the
directors when we were able to go through the budget and go through the different
enhancements requested -- and I will make acomment -- I guess some of what Stacy
and Steve said, is since I sat over in that chair that's something I thought was a better
way to do it and this year we were able to get a budget put together, not with just the
Mayor's input and finance's input, but all the directors input. I think it was an invaluable
process, because many years I sat here and I had no idea what anybody else wanted, I
had no idea how many other employees they wanted to have, I didn't have any concept
of what was important to them and what mattered or what our response may be from
HR and legal would be to whatever their needs were. This was a great exercise. I think
it was invaluable for all the directors to be involved in that and I thank the Mayor for
allowing us to be a part of that it. I think it was a better product that you have in front of
you because of it. Anyway, the directors -- the directors remarks to me was they -- they
enjoyed and wanted to continue, but some of the services that AspireOn can do for us,
but they also wanted additional services and they wanted opportunities to look at other
vendors for other things besides just, essentially, one type of training. And so what they
requested, which I agree with, instead of just being really just an AspireOn contract,
which is what you have seen in the past, this is really for all varieties of professional
services and my intent is, then, to work with the different departments so that we can
meet their needs. Many times we can't always meet their needs as they have to find
training money or we have to just forego certain types of training that we think are
beneficial either city wide or department wide and we just don't have the funding for it.
In the past few years we have had a small amount of money for some of it. I think this
year it was -- it was either 5,000 or 2,500 for other professional services. Do you
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and does a lot of customer support and I think that the IT staff is much different today
than it was three or four years ago and I think that the level of service is improving
within the IT department. So, thank you guys. Going on to the next slide. Going to the
enhancements. This first one is a fiber build out and, basically, what the purpose for
this enhancement is is that right now the way that the city connects the departments
together is that we have a wireless network and although the wireless network does
what it's intended to do, it definitely has, you know, some problems as far as reliability
goes. I would say that the wireless network typically works 99 percent of the time, but
when you have one percent of the time when it's down, it's really troubling, especially
when it's two days in a row like it was recently for the fire department a couple months
ago. It's very frustrating. And so what this request is is ACHD over the past few years
has put fiber optics into the ground when they have done their builds and their digs and
have done the road construction and what ACRD has been kind enough is that they
have offered to allow the city to connect into their fiber ring and use their fiber optics, so
that we can connect certain departments where the fiber is close enough for us to
connect into for a reasonable cost. Basically, the departments that we are looking to
connect together is we are looking to put the new City Hall, connect it to fire station one,
to fire station four, with the police department and the water tower. You might say, well,
why the water tower, it's kind of an odd location. But that's really the central hub for our
wireless network. Unfortunately, the cost of putting fiber optics in the ground for the city
is very cost prohibitive. If the city was to go ahead and put in these fiber optics
ourselves and say we don't want to use somebody's service, we don't want to be
dependent on them, the equivalent would be about 500,000 dollars for the city to put
this in. And so to do it for a fraction of that cost is a great benefit to the city. ACHD so
far has been very willing to allow other agencies to connect in. We are not sure how
much longer they might do that and so we think that it's time imperative that we do it
now, that this is something that's very important, which, thus, it's the number one
enhancement for the IT department. Going on to the next enhancement. This is for a
training lab. As you may know, in the new City Hall there actually has been space
allocated for a training lab. One of the deficiencies --and it's been a long term vision for
me personally, has been to provide training classes to other city employees for some of
the basic applications, like Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel, Powerpoint. How to use
the intemet. How to do the help desk software. Right now the city doesn't really have a
way to do this effectively. You know, typically when we have offered training in the past,
invite employees into the Council chambers and we have one of the guys up there
running a Powerpoint presentation providing this is how you do it. But although that is
somewhat helpful, there is nothing better than really hands-on experience and we
believe that through this enhancement that it's going to allow the city to provide better
training to the employees, but improving the efficiency of the employees and saving
cost, since it will reduce the amount of expense the city will have to pay to send people
to training like Execu-Train or some of the other labs, which the IT experience has been
is that it's increased about 50 percent over the past year just to send people to training,
so --
Borton: Madam Mayor?
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works is each department has a responsibility to maintain their site -- their section of the
site. So, if I'm the Public Works Department or the Fire Department or the IT
Department or the HR department, I control my site. Now, that may be great, but,
unfortunately, there comes inconsistencies with that. Through the MIS committee, the
information steering committee, we have had discussions regarding this and we actually
had a survey of multiple departments earlier this year and the majority of the people
supported having this type of position, to have one person really be that filtering person
for putting content onto the website, so that that way there was consistency with the
information, rather than having, you know, a mishmash and just have the people think,
well, this doesn't really look professional. Onto the next slide. This is for a Microsoft
Office upgrade. We are actually going to withdraw this enhancement. The reason
being is that the purpose for this enhancement is to get everybody on the same version
of Microsoft Office. Right now the city as a whole is on Office 2003. Microsoft's current
version is Office 2007 and they are coming out with Office 2009 next year. Well,
previously when the enhancement was submitted it looked like that they were coming
out with Office 2009 next spring, the spring of 2009. After further research it looks like
that that's been delayed and won't happen until the fall of 2009. Therefore, we believe
it's in the city's best interest to forego this enhancement this year and wait until next
year with it. This next enhancement is for backup software. One of the most important
things to a city is our data. Making sure that are data is safe and secure and that it can
be recovered. When the city needs information that we can go back and find, in the
past the City Council has been generous in making sure that the IT department has the
resources to make sure that we have a lot of our data backed up, that we have a
disaster recovery plan, that we have the resources at hand to make sure that our data is
protected. One of the problems that the IT department experiences is that backups are
really inconsistent and it's partially due to software. It's partially due to people. About
one-third of the backup jobs .that run nightly fail. Partially because there is a problem
with the system, sometimes it's a problem with user error where our tape didn't get put
into the backup system. Right now backups are handled by each department, so if I'm
at the police department there is an individual who is responsible for putting the backup
tape nightly. Sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't. If the person goes on
vacation, sometimes that's not real consistent. What this enhancement is asking for is
that through the increase of technology improvements there is ways to do backup
centrally through compression that would allow us to centralize the backups at City Hall,
rather than having each individual department backup the servers that are on site. And
so what it would do is it would take off the burden of responsibility from the department
and allow us to back things up centrally, so that it's in one location. The other benefit is
like locations like the wastewater treatment plant, the water department, which have
servers, those servers don't necessarily fail, so well into the disaster recovery plan.
Sure we do a backup, we take the tapes off site. If something bad happened out there,
like there was some sort of disaster, we would be able to get the data back, but the data
would only be able to get back up to the point that we had the last backup tapes.
Sometimes those backup tapes fail. You go -- you put in a backup tape, you think
you're going to find something, and there is nothing there and so you end up going back
a couple days, which costs staff time, because usually that represents somebody's work
that was lost and so through this enhancement we will be able to backup centrally.
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a similar answer. They wouldn't get a different answer, they would get the same
answer, because the information that they are accessing would be consistent, it
wouldn't be different. During this process one of the things that we have done is that we
have actually -- the process started off by doing a lot of analysis and just looking at what
do we have in place, what type. of database, because at the time when we looked at it
we had over 200 different databases that the city was utilizing. The number's actually
increased today a little bit. After that we started saying, okay, what systems really need
to be talking together, which departments are having communication problems and
gaps and, then, the process after that was we started contacting other cities to say with
these particular problems does any city actually have a solution, does anybody really
have something. What we found is largely that you're not going to find one solution
that's going to solve all your problems. It would be nice, but everybody said dream on,
you're basically going to be lucky if you can do about 50 percent. And that's what we
found. Through our analysis is we looked at about ten different software applications
after talking to the cities based off of what they recommended and we went off and we
started talking to vendors and we went through analysis through a subcommittee of the
MIS committee made up of five people, a couple people from Public Works and the
Building Department, two people from IT, John Overton from the Police Department,
and Jaycee Holman and we looked at a lot of different systems. Through this
evaluation we tried to come up with consistent criteria to say does this software work or
is it garbage, will it really serve our purposes and will it serve our purposes not only
today, but is this the type of vendor that the city would want to do business with,
because they have a strategy not only for today, but for years to come. And during that
evaluation the different areas that we tried to figure out is do they have a building
permit. Right now probably the biggest sore spot for the city is with our building permit
software. The city is using something called PT Win. We have had it for about ten
years. We paid less than 5,000 dollars for it and that's about all it's worth and although it
works for us today, I think it's not really designed for long-term use. It doesn't have a
web interface. The database it uses is not a consistent database, but is used through
the city. The city standardized on and Microsoft people back in, because it's a database
that we can interface with, we can integrate. So, even if the system doesn't necessarily
integrate with the other systems, we can make integration happen and that PT Win
system, when we were in the boom period and the city was growing, it was crashing
often. We had to send the database to get it fixed, because it just. didn't work. And so
that's one of the main areas that we were really trying to evaluate. Based off of that we
wanted to know does it have a plan interface, does it do any of the planning functions?
Does it manage permits? Does it do code enforcement. Will it interface with utility
billing or does it have a utility billing module. Does it have an IVR, which is a voice
response system. Does it have GIS features. Does it have an accounting feature.
Does it have document management. Does it have request tracking. These are some
of the different things. Is there the possibility that the city could develop against the
system? So, let's say that we purchase the system, is there a way that the city could do
development, rather than paying an expensive programmer who flies in from some
other state to do development? Through this process we, basically, were able to narrow
it down to about two systems that we think that meet the needs of the city. Now, at this
point we still have apprehension on whether or not those systems will do everything that
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Rountree: I thought this was the police presentation.
Bird: The police will be fast and efficient. I have a question or are we going to wait until
the end?
De Weerd: Yeah. We will let the Boise prosecution team do their quick presentation
and --
Nary: All lawyers are very short winded and very succinct.
Bird: I was just going to say we have got more lawyers in here than we have got
anything else. I'm almost scared.
Nary: Don't you feel safer today?
Bird: I can't believe the chief didn't bring more police officers.
Nary: I have one more slide and we can talk about this this afternoon, but Idid -- we
are looking at the custodial contract with City Hall and whether or not the contract for
that service is currently -- this is a tentative amount based on really just a rough
estimate of the cost from Western Building, what it would cost for the City Hall building,
as well as if we were to look at hiring our own custodians that would manage -- that
would, basically, take care of all the buildings in the city, except for the fire station, and
what the cost of that would be, but we can talk about that at 3:30, the other government
section, and, then, sometimes the budget process feels a lot like this every year, so
wanted to at least end on that note. I would introduce Cary Colaianni, the Boise city
attorney, and Steve Rutherford, Teny Derden and Jodi Nafzger from the Boise city
attorney's office to talk about our prosecution.
De Weerd: Thank you. Welcome.
Colaianni: Good morning, Mayor. Council Members. Thank you, Bill. Appreciate that.
De Weerd: I'm sure your budget process is much smoother than this, uh?
Colaianni: Well, let me say this, Mayor. We prepared a long program and a shot
program and from your comments I'm going to give you the short program.
De Weerd: Great idea.
Colaianni: So, again, thanks for the opportunity to come and present the 2009
proposed prosecution contract with the City of Meridian. This is my fourth year as Boise
City attorney presenting it to you. It is, in my opinion, one of the crown jewels of my
administration and we treat it as such. It's very important to us. We have had a
successful 2008 and we are going to talk to you today briefly about a -- what we intend
to be a more successful 2009 prosecution contract, because we intend to provide
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become a huge resource for police. Ralph Blount comes out of the A.G.'s office. He's
been a deputy A.G. formerly and has also trained at POST, taught at POST, provided
some paralegal training and services before that time and has been a paralegal for the
Attorney General's Office before his spot as an attorney and he is truly coming to us
with a huge background working back on how cases progress through our court system
and is really going to provide an asset to police. So, those are some of the
improvements that we are offering Meridian Police Department and the City of Meridian
and hope to provide you excellent police resources. With that I'll turn it over to our Chief
Deputy Steve Rutherford.
Rutherford: Good moming.
De Weerd: Good moming.
Rutherford: Just to follow up on what Jodi said, really, the goal is to enhance our
prosecutor's experience. We have got some folks who want to do more than just go to
the courtroom and so we thought feeding those folks to live police officers and police
administration to answer questions, again, that experience would prove beneficial to
them in their careers and to Boise city police and Meridian city police as well. I'm here
to talk to you about just a couple quick things and, then, be the closer. The first is to
make you aware that there is a new court trial system that is saving you money as we
speak and it's an enhancement that's brought to you by the court system and our office.
Previously, the way we handled court trials was we subpoenaed your officers to show
up and a pile of them to show up and some cases would go to trial after we talked to
folks, some cases wouldn't, but the bottom line was you were paying officers to be
there. We have gone to a pretrial system now, so instead of handling 240 court trials a
weeks, we are handling 240 kind of pretrial conferences for court trials. So, on
speeding tickets and those kind of things, the officers don't have to show up in court and
we are actually showing some success in that out of, you know, 60 settings in a day we
will have eight or nine of those that actually are going to go to court trial, we will set
those for another day and, then, we will have to only have to subpoena the officers for
those nine, instead of subpoenaeing officers for the 60. So, it's new. We are still
working out the kinks, but ultimately it will save you some money in the long run.
Currently, the trial court administrator is engaging a consultant to do an efficiency study
to try to figure out whether or not there is a better mouse trap, whether or not there is
better scheduling. It is a welcomed study in our estimation to just the theory of adding
courtrooms, adding judges, which is difficult for us to keep up with and just makes our
City Council weary when we come back and ask for more prosecutors. So, we have
participated in that study by offering 5,000 dollars towards the cost of that study and we
will be reporting to you about the benefits of that study. Hopefully, we will deliver.
Finally, the case management system -- Terry has some handouts for you and, again, I
will be very brief, but I think it's a significant improvement. This is the thing that Terry
talked about as being a fundamental change in our office that prosecution in this state
has not seen. We implemented this system over the spring, went live on June 2nd. All
new cases now are fed into this system. This system effectively is a large rolladex.
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break it down even further to address. That would be in there. When a citation comes
across to us we have to enter all the personal information, the name, address, phone
number of the person. It would be easy to tell just where a search for that location of
Eagle and Overland or where the complaint of where the crime occurred and, then, also
break it down by what their home address showed us. So, we could see that -- that
someone at a Meridian address, this is a Boise city address, or any other address
entered in the system. So, it's possible. We have the ability with Justware -- we have
believe 48 hours every year that we have bought as part of our contract with them to
have them build us specific reports. So, there is some time lag in having us -- have a
crunch made and have them build you a report, we are also hoping to train someone in
our office to be the person that builds the report and from the way that looks that might
very well be me. But we have -- we may have these others to even build specific
reports that could do that sort of thing. So, yeah.
De Weerd: Okay. Just one other question, then, in that regard. Will it be able to track
fine collections?
Derden: Madam Mayor, Justware has a financial piece to it that we are not currently
using. It tracks our restitution, because we need to keep track of that for probations and
things ordered. We have left our fine agreements still within Ada County court. What
we have looked at is we are doing the civil piece for our Justware system in the fall,
hopefully, sometime. We are going to be tracking financial data. It may be that if we
see that that works well, we will come back and track the financials in the Justware
system.
De Weerd: Any other questions, Council?
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Borton: Real quick. If it's a report that might be available, could you depict the city and
the geographic hot spot regions based on certain crime statistics that would show up
where there might be a high frequency of DUIs or battery, things like that?
Derden: Yeah. Madam Mayor, Councilman Borton, I think I understand what you're
asking me. So, could we look at -- by breaking down locations of where crimes
occurred, where the number is?
Borton: Yeah. Kind of scatter plotted on a map.
Derden: I think that would be possible to do that. What the report would show us was
the location. I mean we have -- we have a locations that we charge on a citation or a
complaint. This is where the crime occurred. There would be no problem, I think, with
pulling up a report of give me all those locations and, then, all locations that match. It
may take someone to actually eyeball it and put it on a map itself. But finding all the
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De Weerd: Okay. Council, do you have questions?
Bird: I have none.
De Weerd: Just want to refine what we can track with that software on the specifics we
are looking for, but we will talk with you later. Thank you.
Coliainni: Mayor and Council Members, thank you again. And, Mayor, we will work with
you off-line and the Council to tailor the case management system to meet your needs
and the things you're looking for. It's a robust system. We don't even know what it can
do yet, but we will certainly keep in communication with you, so we can get you the
numbers that you're looking for.
De Weerd: Thank you very much.
Nary: That concludes our presentation. Any questions?
De Weerd: Thank you. Council, questions for Bill and his -- and/or his staff?
Bird: Madam Mayor, I'm sure they will be around when they get back to the 3:30 one,
won't they? And we can go through some of that. I do have some questions on the IT
and I'm sure Terry will be around.
De Weerd: Mr. Bird, you're going to have to speak up. If I can't hear you --
Bird: I appreciate that, having to speak up. I can ask Terry one right now. Terry, you
know, three or four years ago we was told that the wireless was the way to go and all
this kind of stuff and now we are told that we need to invest 40 some thousand dollars
to get fiber optics ten or -- connect our buildings. I have got the same problem with
spending 800 -- over 800,000 dollars with a program that maybe in five years will be
outdated or -- what do you think? What's your opinion?
Patemoster: On which part, Councilman Bird?
Bird: Well, you know, the wireless that we --
Paternoster: The wireless?
Bird: -- isn't as dependable as we thought it would be four years ago.
Paternoster: I don't think that it's really -- I think that it's time when we implemented the
wireless solution, because the wireless won't completely go away. There is certain
locations, like a wastewater treatment plant, fire station two, fire station three, that will
continue to be on wireless. I mean we have also implemented wireless at the parks to
manage the security system that are at the parks department. I think that when we look
at the wireless is really what we have to ask ourselves -- because, really, what's the
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De Weerd: Thank you. Appreciate that partnership.
Rountree: Bill, I -- on the contract extension and the amount, where do I find that?
Nary: The amount?
Rountree: I got the amount on an extension, but --
Bird: There was not any in the budget?
Nary: It's in the finance.
Rountree: It's in the finance?
Nary: Finance. Actually -- is it in the police budget? You folks track that in the police
budget?
De Weerd: In the police budget, yes.
Nary: Yeah. So, between Chief Lavey and myself, we are the ones that, basically,
interact with Boise of whether there is information that's necessary, responses to citizen
issues, response to officer issues, but it's tracked out of the police budget, not out of --
notout of the legal budget.
Bird: And, of course, the revenue goes to the police department, too.
Nary: Absolutely.
Bird: Into the revenue --
De Weerd: Yes. And, sorry, Keith, did Terry answer your question?
Bird: Yeah. I appreciate that. I do have a couple others, Terry, because I'm real -- you
know, I'm real technology smart, so -- I got some questions. On the web consulting,
33,500 and web content engineer for 83,480, if we hire a -- if we hire afull-time guy just
to work on the web -- is that what that guy is for?
Patemoster: It's -- I guess it depends on which aspect you mean as far as working on
the web. If you mean actually --
Bird: Your employee that you're hiring. Number three.
Paternoster: Do you mean putting data on the web or do you actually mean developing
tools for the website?
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Bird: The only -- the only question I got is on that number three enhancement is that a
40 hour a week job after we once get set up? I mean, geez, I -- I don't know. That's
what -- I don't know.
Nary: I think to expand the services to make it more usable for the public; you will find
plenty of opportunities. Again, the website is not a static thing. You don't want it to just
be a fixed thing daily. There is a lot of information we use our website for. There is a lot
more we could use it for. So, I don't believe it would be money wasted -- I mean there is
certainly other programming functions that a person may be able to do --
Bird: That's what I'm asking.
Nary: -- as well. There may be some other areas they can assist in. I mean it may not
be that just only web, but their primary responsibility will be dealing with the web page.
Bird: Yeah. I mean he -- I would think that -- I don't know, but I would think he would
have time to do other stuff that --
Nary: I would think so.
Bird: Research and stuff like that. I mean once you get it set up and get it going.
Paternoster: Well, we believe that, too, and I think that one of the things that kind of
goes along with this position and one of the struggles that the IT department had is that
-- Mike's our third programmer. Last year we had one programmer for four months, we
had one for two months, now Mike's my third programmer, and each one of those guys
left to make significantly more money. I think that part of the vision with this content
engineer is in addition to taking care of content, and, hopefully, we can mentor them in
development and to having tools and resources help out with the programming aspect.
Now, we don't believe that that will be their core of duties, but over time I -- our hope is
that if Mike, God forbid, did leave us at some point in time, that we would have
somebody who would at least be able to help us get along and do some of those
supplemental functions until that point.
Bird: Okay.
De Weerd: I thought we made them sign contracts in blood. Right, Mike?
Nary: Courts have had such a hard time enforcing those.
Bird: Anybody that can advance themselves, I think you're great.
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
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Nary: If you have ever walked somebody through, saying you can find this here. Get to
this page, click on this link, now you go to that link, click down to 2008, click down to
that link and by. the time we walk them through five minutes of it they are frustrated.
They can find it the next time and so that's helpful, but it is very difficult to keep doing
that and it's not very intuitive to folks.
De Weerd: Council, we are not quite an hour over our -- our schedule and what I will
recommend is that maybe we continue this discussion at our discussion period when
that comes up and that we work through lunch. We have a small break, so you can get
your lunch and, then, continue on. Does that seem feasible? Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Our next item up is our police department and apologize for the delay. Thank
you, HR, IT, and legal staff.
Lavey: Okay. Madam Mayor and Council, thank you for the opportunity here today. It's
always nice to actually be able to go before the fire department and Chief Ron
Anderson, so -- Keith actually said that he thought this would be short, but those of you
that know me, I do like to talk, so I will try to make this as brief as possible. I do believe
that we need to set the tone for the day, though, and this was given to me by finance,
but it basically says because of budget cuts we have to use the photocopier until we can
get the mug shot camera repaired. This is a unique year for us in that we have had to
change some things in how we have done business and how we kind of looked at
things. I don't believe we are in the dire straits that some people think out there, but we
do need to take a second and third look at how we do business. Of course, you all
know me, I believe, and I'd like to take the opportunity to introduce the command staff.
They are here today. You can see we do have a deputy chief position that still remains
vacant. I believe in finding the right fit and we haven't got to that point yet, so that will
remain vacant until such time. Lieutenant John Overton I believe is sitting over at the
computer just in case the wireless fails, so he said he would volunteer to be my minion
today and I said I will do the computer if you want to talk. So, he's doing the computer.
John is in the community services division of the police department. Lieutenant Bob
Stowe is sitting here --
De Weerd: We are glad you dressed up, Bob.
Lavey: I did make a comment that he was sitting next to five attorneys, so beware.
Bob is in the uniform patrol division. Lieutenant Tracy Basterrechea is in investigations.
At least he did wear a tie. And Lieutenant Scott Coliainni. Scott Colliainni is our newest
lieutenant and I was going to bring him to the workshop in -- in July and introduce him --
him to you and also our new K-9 partner, but we figured the K-9 partner would be more
interesting than Scott, but -- so we sent the K-9 partner back to Holland and we will get
to that later on. The first thing I'd like to do is -- is just kind of thank the men and women
of the Meridian Police Department. We have had another great year and it's not about
me, it's about them. They are the ones that do the job and I'd just like to publicly thank
them. I just wish more of them were present for that today, but I believe that that word
gets back to them quite often. Our team. We currently have 79 police officers in the
Meridian Police Department. When I came on 12 years ago we had 34, which just kind
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Lavey: We actually had a town hall meeting for underage alcohol consumption. This
was our first town hall meeting in regards to this topic and it was kind of -- kind of
catered toward what we did with our last town hall meeting. We didn't have a great
turnout, which was kind of sad, but with what we did put on and the people that were
present it was a great, great program. And so, basically, we -- it just encouraged us to
move on and do better and better and better. Why would I put together a neighborhood
watch community luncheon together, but this is something that -- that our neighborhood
-- our crime prevention people and our neighborhood watch kind of came together in
partnership and it's kind of that same concept with taking the city out into the community
and we took our department and the Mayor and myself out to our community with our
neighborhood watch and kind of a recruiting adventure and we went out to Meadow
Lake Village and it was a success and we hoped to change that location geographically
among the city, but that's where we started. We reestablished the patrol bicycle
program. I didn't tell the Mayor that we did this. She knew that we were thinking about
it and she had the pleasure of -- of witnessing them here in the last couple of days, but
positive, positive feedback. I got one that person called me on the phone, another
person that came into the lobby just to tell us that they appreciate the bikes out there.
Kind of has a secondary reason. We will get to that later on. And the other thing that
we just did with them is the fireworks presentation at Storey Park, they actually worked
that, along with foot patrols in the park. Participating in the first unified command for
Dairy Days. This is one thing that we have talked about for a long, long time, but we put
police and fire and EMS in the same room in a unified command and the amazing thing
is we were all on the same radio frequency and actually could talk to each other and we
had a successful Dairy Days this year and we will continue to work that sort of structure
up with Dairy Days and any other special event -- large special event that we have in
the city. I won't -- I will say there is a lot of opportunities for growth, but, you know, it
needs improvement, but not because bad things happen, just because we have a
chance to continue to get better and better and better at it, so -- establish the radio inter-
operability with fire and EMS. We now have the ability to talk with each other out there.
We are still working on some -- some protocols and some procedures to really make
that happen, because one thing that Chief Anderson talked about was that we have this
ability, yet we still don't use it and so trying to figure out how to change the way we do
business. But operating under that unified command was the first start. The Governor's
Idaho's Brightest Start Award for our MADC, Mayor's Anti-Drug Coalition. We actually
had the pleasure of being -- receiving an award from Governor Otter for our efforts with
MADC. I don't know if I can really take credit for it anymore, but I think the idea
originated with us and we are still a strong participant. We just recently held the third
annual downtown clean up in the City of Meridian. And that was, once again, a success
this year, but there has been many, many partners that are involved in that.
De Weerd: I think you underestimate the role that your staff plays in that. Melissa
Delaney and --
Lavey: Code enforcement.
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are trying to find a method to actually ship him here, because of the regulations on the
airlines, because of heat and everything else. We might have to go to the city of
Portland to pick the dog up, because it's cooler. Somewhere on the coast. And if that's
the case we will do that. So, we will have him here shortly. Once they get here, I will
bring both of those dogs to one of the Council meetings and you can meet the handlers
and meet the dogs, if you so like. The other unique thing that we did this year was we
actually had a partnership with the Mountain View High School media students to
produce Meridian Police Department's first recruiting video. What we did is we had this
group of students come out and actually film our officers in training situations and
SWAT demonstrations, some traffic stops, a wide area of topics and we also did some
testimonials with the officers and we are currently in the process of putting this all
together to music and forming a recruiting video. Basically, my direction was let's get
something together that we can use that's short, like two or three minutes, four minutes,
but something that someone can look at it and go, okay, I like that, I want to ask more
questions. Also, with any -- with any of the website upgrades -- and I don't really want
to bring up the IT issues, but with that -- with the fiber and with the upgrade to the web
software, would allow us to do streaming video and put that video on a website, which
we currently cannot do. Then, to produce a 20 to 25 minute video, depending on the
amount of footage we have and just put it on a continuous loop, so if we went to a
recruiting event we can just put it there in a DVD player and just continue to play it over
and over and over. And, then, like I said, the short video -- our debut target is for the
police and fire games. We have an opportunity to have lots of certified police officers
here in our city in about six weeks and we intend to recruit and that is on the record.
Put this on here. It's really kind of hard to read, but this just kind of gives you an idea of
one of our recruiting things that we are doing. It gives a picture up in the upper left-
hand comer of a patrol team. You can actually see a dog over there on the left-hand
corner. But it just gives a few facts about what are some of the benefits that the city
offers, what are some of the pay ranges. A little bit about us. Our website. And who to
contact. And this is what we are using as a recruiting flier right now. And so there will
be plenty of these available to the police and fire games as well. Who knows, we might
even be able to recruit a fireman. I knew you guys --
Bird: I'd say something, but Anderson isn't in here.
Lavey: Yeah. I did it for Bill and Mark. What I did is I put our enhancement just on one
page here and it just gives me an idea of what's up here and it gives me a chance to
talk about each -- each item. I know that I have heard some of the -- the percent
figures. Twenty-three percent. Two hundred percent. And everything else. I believe --
Icould be wrong, but I believe our increase is only like .48 percent.
Bird: That's right.
Lavey: And so as you can see it's real real conservative. But I want to run down here,
basically, what we are asking for.
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last year versus what we are requesting this year, is about 5,000, 6,500 dollars
increase, but let me stress that it's still dependent upon receiving the grant and we will
not receive any -- we will not receive word until late August. I did receive a letter here
recently saying that we made it to the next stage. So, late August. And that would be
working with our anti-drug coalition on a full-time basis, whereas currently we have a
part-time person. CID assistant. This is an executive assistant and this is something
that we had in place awhile ago -- years ago. We kind of gave it up, because we didn't
think we had a -- well, I'm not sure if it was -- it was before my -- before my tenure at the
top. If there was a need for it. I can tell you right now that our detectives have about
400 active cases assigned to them each. And so if you go down to number ten, you will
where I requested additional detectives. Well, I pulled that enhancement and I pulled it
for a couple of reasons. One is because of the significant cost. It was over 200,000
dollars. Two is I'm still in the process of trying to attract qualified police officers and if
I'm having difficulties with that, then, I can't really add more detectives until I add more
police officers and so it would really be bad timing on my part. And so the other thing
that I look at is if I could get an administrative assistant that could come in and do those
tasks, such as transcription and paperwork and photocopies and the menial phone calls
and that sort of thing, then, maybe 1 can alleviate some of the pressure that our
detectives currently face and kind of felt that that was probably the appropriate action to
take with our current economic status. The -- number four, weapons maintenance.
This is one area that you never think about when you put something in place, but
fortunate for us is that we don't have to use our service pistols often in the line of duty.
But we do have to shoot three to four times a year. That amount of rounds actually,
eventually, stresses the weapon and we have to look at replacing them. We are to a
point where we have added so many weapons without a regular maintenance schedule
that we have to start implementing a maintenance schedule. You can really see that
the price is insignificant compared to the -- the outcome that we are going to receive,
but there is a program where you can actually pay for an upgrade and you can get a
brand new pistol for about 200 dollars apiece. Or we can buy brand new ones at 550
dollars apiece. So, that's what that money is -- and, basically, what we have
established is a program where we will start rotating the oldest pistols through and so
each year we'd propose a couple thousand dollars for weapons maintenance. The next
one is police training software. You have seen a lot of software requests this year
already. I have withdrawn this one for two reasons. One, we have an in-house
program that was built by a volunteer and when we became large enough it started
falling apart and it was doing some real funky things and kind of had -- like fhat picture
that Bill Nary had up here with the guy yelling at the computer, I had my training
coordinator yelling at the computer like that. Well, Terry Paternoster came in and we
kind of fixed it and we do believe that although we need to look at the way we do
business, not necessarily in just on a police training side, but on a city wide training
side, but we believe that we can get by another year and so that's why that is
withdrawn. Firearm safety equipment. This is a, you know, relatively small amount, but
what this is is several years ago a company actually designed what we believe is the
safest -- safest police holster around. Now, not every holster -- you can't claim as one
hundred percent reliable, because the cons will always find a way to get a gun out of a
holster and everything else, but this is probably the safest and easiest holster to
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other one only has 74,000 miles on it, but the reason why it only has 74,000 miles on it
is it has a blown engine. We are going to give that one to the attorney's office as well.
One of the things that we also have done is in the past on the detective's rotation, we
have rotated the cars at seven years and it's up for -- this Chrysler van is our crime
scene van and this is a van that goes out on all our crime scenes and holds all our
equipment and it would also be offered to the -- to someone else that wouldn't have to
drive it as often, but it is in very poor condition, the maintenance on this is tremendous,
but if somebody in 'the city wants to take over that maintenance nightmare, they can.
And, then, the 2005 Honda motor, this one always makes me cringe when I read this,
because Officer Will Stoy was on the motorcycle when he was struck from behind and
the car was going 37 miles an hour at the time that it struck him and the only reason
why Will Stoy is alive today is because the driver had the wheels turned to the left. And
she was uninsured. And so the two things on this one is not only did the amount of
monies we got from the insurance company cover the purchase of a new motor, you
can't purchase new motors from Honda until late fall. So, it wouldn't have done us any
good anyways. So, I believe the next slide goes into a little further in depth on that.
Let's kind of talk a little bit about what I already mentioned; our vehicle replacement
request is 22,500 less than last year. The blown engine, the totaled vehicle, the totaled
motorcycle -- you now, one of the things that finance asked me is why do you come and
get those vehicles replaced and there were so many other budget amendments going
on this year and everything else, we decided to wait until next year, instead of coming in
and asking Council for additional monies to purchase those vehicles. It didn't make any
sense on the motorcycle, otherwise, I could have came to you and says, hey, can we go
buy new -- or used motorcycles and we didn't do that as well. One of the things that we
did recently come into a deal with ICRMP -- ICRMP kind of forgot that the motorcycle
was at the Canyon Honda and it was incumng -- accnaing ten dollars a day in storage
fees and so we did a little bargain and we got Canyon Honda to forego those storage
fees and in payment for that ICRMP donated us the police motorcycle. So, if we buy --
we already have one Honda at the same year and, then, we have a vehicle now that we
can use parts off of it, so -- this figure here is -- is -- originated with IT, but Terry does go
over each of the -- each of the requests with the directors, but he's the one that,
basically, identifies the need. I can tell you that the -- the first two are on that five year
rotation. The other ones are computers that were slotted for replacement a long time
ago, but we had a need for additional computers and so there is old computers in there
and I asked Terry if we could get those replaced and -- and that's what you see right
now. I believe the Mayor and a few Council Members have struggled through using
some of the computers in the public meeting room and the training room and so that's =-
the conference room and a public meeting room are the two -- two computers -- I do
recall where the Mayor had sent someone down to find someone to work on the
computers one time and I had come upstairs and I was working on it and she was --
couldn't believe that I was actually -- actually there at 7:00 o'clock at night working on
computers. And, then, the other two things are printers and one of them is a backup
printer and the other one is a color printer for crime scene photos. And the ones that we
currently have in place, one does not work at all, one prints about a page every five
minutes, and it's just time to get those replaced. So, that's those. As I mentioned
before, last year's enhancement requests were 1.1 million dollars. This year we are at
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into the public safety reserve or like Stacy suggested, a certain percentage of
operational savings be placed in this fund to be used at a later time. One thing to keep
in mind is our final payment for the police department in 2011. What I would do is ask
the Council to continue to place this amount of money into that reserve fund. You have
already budgeted it, it's already there, let's continue paying it into that fund. One of the
things we talked about on public safety reserve fund is not just police, it's fire as well.
And one thing that I believe Chief Anderson is going to talk about is that although we
have a fire truck fund, is what we call it now to purchase new fire trucks, we don't really
have a plan in place to buy replacements trucks and this -- this reserve fund would also
be allowed for that.
De Weerd: Which is about a half a million dollars a year.
Lavey: Yeah. We kind of -- we kind of battle over those monies, who gets them first
and --
De Weerd: I mean the interest and the principal payment.
Lavey: Yes. Yes. It's like four hundred and some thousand almost -- yeah. One of the
things that the Mayor talked about and Bill Nary even talked about was just hiring
somebody to get this -- the range project going. Instead of hiring someone, we talked
about maybe promoting a lieutenant and assigning that lieutenant to this on a full-time
basis to get this project up and running and, then, when that need is no longer there,
either through attrition or I do have a need for another lieutenant in the patrol division,
because currently we only have coverage for days and swing. There is no command
staff covering grave. So, I have one lieutenant that covers -- and they are probably over
there arguing right now. I have one lieutenant that covers two daytime shifts, plus the
traffic shift and, then, I have another one that covers four evening shifts. So, if we are
on the record, I don't really want to talk -- I don't really want to comment too much on
the development, the business plan, but we actually had this promised to us and this
has fell through. This person that was going to work on this has not produced one item
on paper that I have been able to look at. We need to seek out potential financial
partners and I know that with Councilman Rountree and Councilman Bird we have
discussed this and I have discussed this also with the Mayor, but we need to at least
discuss do we want to approach a private industry interest and see if there is someone
that wants to build on our land. But if we do that, we need to make sure that we at least
have some sort of control on that, because I don't want to build something and us not
being able to use it and it's on our property. So, there are some of the tough questions
that we need to discuss either today or later or for the next several years. That is the
end of my presentation. I didn't time it, but hopefully I didn't go over too much and I am
open for questions.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, questions?
Rountree: Madam Mayor?
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issues and everything else and so it's -- it's worth asking that question. I don't know if it
makes the most sense, but I'm not here to tum it down.
Bird: Anytime you back you cause safety problems.
Lavey: Yes.
Bird: I didn't realize it was used that much, chief.
De Weerd: You know, chief, I guess I would also like to suggest that there is an
enormous basement in the new City Hall and I don't know, you know, if old evidence or
how you could utilize that. We could design in something that could be a safe facility
with -- with access only to those that you designate, but it is an option. If that seems
reasonable for you, we can explore it. Now would be the time to really take a look at
that. .But if that helps you at least alleviate or free up some percentages of space in
evidence, certainly that is available.
Lavey: Thank you.
Bird: Records could be there, to.
De Weerd: Records, too.
Lavey: Yeah. And that's what I was thinking. Records and archives. As far as those
records that we don't have to access often, we could do that. One of the things that we
try to do is keep a fair amount of records available downstairs for the public information
requests and, then, anything else, once it reaches a certain date, is upstairs in an
archive storage. But even that's become full. Part of the original plan when LCA
designed the building, was not only to expand off both wings, but also build above the
sally port and above the sally port is for archive storage and tasked -- or for record
storage of about 2,500 feet and I told them that now is not the time to design that and so
with the thoughts of using the basement downstairs, so -- one thing I will point out, too,
and we talked about it, is that we did request through Kreizenbeck some price
differences between building the entire shell and with only finishing downstairs and,
then, finishing everything and it's sad to say that it's only about a 420,000 dollar
savings, but that's 420,000 dollars, but it's not a significant amount of savings to actually
build the shell and only finish part of it, but that is definitely an option that we were
looking at.
De Weerd: I guess, Council, bottom line on these two items that were withdrawn,
certainly we are looking at how we can put money aside and any savings over this next
budget year. Also looking forward to the future, we will be coming back with a Capital
Improvement Plan and trying to put a financial strategy in place as far as what the
impact fees are to pay for, what General Fund obligations are, and how we start setting
aside for those various enhancements. On these particular two, we do have some work
to do and creating those business plans and flushing out the partners and what capital
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Borton: To sort of dovetail on those comments, when this is -- the process right now
really is where it's at. At least the way I see it and I look at these enhancements and
walk through the budget as a whole and try and prioritize what's important for the city
and what we can fund and can't fund, that training range is extremely high and my
thought right now -- and we will discuss it at 3:30, I would love to reallocate the current
funds to make significant contributions, at least the range, maybe the building, utilizing
Stacy's idea with the public safety reserve fund and additional savings in personnel that
you mentioned and jump start it now. If it means we cut out 500,000, million five, and
other stuff right now, that's fine. It's critically important. Otherwise, we are just going to
sit here and talk about it and planning for it like in year '010, there is not going to be a
bag of money fall from the sky. We are going to have to make tough choices, so I'm
ready to make them now. So, when we talk about that at 3:30 -- and they are tough
choices. Public safety is pretty dam high on the list, so --
Bird: I second that, Mr. Borton.
De Weerd: Okay.
Zaremba: The shooting training range is one of those things that I would think would be
a candidate even for us making it available to other jurisdictions, along the lines of what
I was talking about with what legal does. Boise supplies some of their expertise to us,
but if we -- I certainly see the need for Meridian to have it, but I would think that maybe
we need to think about could it be a little bigger than we need all by ourselves and sell
space to other jurisdictions or whatever. Sell time or something.
Lavey: I can -- Councilman Zaremba, I can kind of answer a little bit of what we have
gone through and Councilman Rountree and Councilman Bird are kind of aware .of
some of it, because they have been present for those meetings and I really haven't -- I
didn't talk about it here today, because of kind of where I was going with things, but we
have been in negotiations with several different departments and the sheriffs office has
committed about one-third use of their -- of the- facility as far as they got it broke down
into they would like to use a firearm simulator that they were going to purchase down at
their station for a third of their training, although that's 175,000 dollars. So, that's going
to be certainly impacted, but, then, the National Guard range, which is about 45 minutes
from downtown Boise, but they have issue cars and so they can go -- they can drive
down there and in a third of the time with our range, because they currently use impact
guns. They are not really prepared to offer any capital monies right now, it would be
user fee based, but that's something that could be discussed with the elected county
commissioners as well. The Boise police department -- and I have shared this with both
Councilman Bird and Councilman Rountree, Boise decided that driving down to the
National Guard range was going to cost them the equivalent of two full-time police
officer positions for just in driving time. Windshield time. And so that's not cost effective
for them. They have -- they are attempting to purchase the Boise Police Association
range. It's a range owned by the association, not by the police department, and this
range has been in place since the 1950s. They feel that with EPA and clean up and
everything else that they are only looking at about 100,000 dollars, but I believe Council
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do this. It's -- you actually get engaged and one of the things that I'm looking at is that's
kind of the way we -- right now we have to get our return on investment, so if I go
reserve a range for all day, I want to have people out there all day, but after about four
hours you're not really training very productively, because your scores go down and you
get tired, you got to deal with the weather conditions and everything else. And so we
are looking at changing the way we do business and incorporating live fire into that
scenario-based training. We are also looking at, okay, when a shift comes on and
you're at an afternoon shift, four of you are going to go to the range, four of you are
going to go hit the road, go handle calls and, then, in an hour and two hours flip. So,
you might shoot just as many rounds in a year, but you're going to shoot ten or 12 times
a year, instead of two or three and we believe we are going to have better trained
officers because of that. So, those are some of the benefits that you can get out of that.
But, essentially, it probably costs a -- a full-time police officer's salary in what we have to
pay just in current travel costs per year.
De Weerd: Which is 80,000?
Lavey: When you put the benefits in, yes.
Bird: And also when Councilman Rountree and I seen the video on the -- on the
shooting range that's -- that's approximately this five million dollars, it covers about
every training you -- you can even have an indoor Hogan's alley, as I recall, or sort of a
Hogan's alley. So, basically, what would you say, chief, 85 percent of your firearms
training can be done at this range?
Lavey: Eighty-five is probably a low figure. The only real thing that the range cannot
offer is a greater distance for precision rifle shooting. Although we put in a 50 yard rifle
range for ten stations, there is going to be a need where we are going to have to shoot
outside, because we shoot our rifles at a hundred plus yards and, then, for the precision
shooters, for the SWAT snipers, they are several hundreds of yards and so those are
the needs that we can't address in building. Everything else can be addressed in this
building. We have designed it to the point where you can actually drive cars into it, you
can build houses in it, and everything else. We also have set it up where you can
actually do your own weather, we can make it rain, we can make it mist, we can make it
fog. The nice thing about it is we can make it instantly dark by the flip of a switch and
so we don't have to shoot at night and worry about violating noise ordinances, we can
shoot during the day and still be in the dark, so --
Bird: And Council -- I believe Councilman Rountree and myself figured if we was going
to build one, we wanted to build one that covered all these aspects of training, so that
we weren't jumping around. I mean probably one of these long distance and this SWAT
team and stuff, what are you talking about, ten to 15 officers at the most out of 76?
Lavey: About six.
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October we added three additional personnel that we felt like we were paying so much
in overtime costs that adding those three additional personnel would pay for itself in the
savings that we were spending in overtime and, then, would give us additional
personnel for shift coverage and for some of those operational things that we needed
the staffing for. And, then, in February we ended up hiring the nine new firefighters that
we ultimately trained up and, then, there was promotions involved and that's how we
staffed station five, which just opened about three weeks ago. So, we now have 18
paramedics within the department. Last year we were sitting at about three part-time,
on-call volunteer firefighters. We have increased that number up to 11 and we plan
another class this winter. So, we are planning on increasing those numbers up even
more, so for folks that live in the community that would like an opportunity to serve their
city in the capacity of a firefighter, we are offering more opportunities there. We have
seven administrative personnel actually on your sheet. It's 6.5, but we actually consider
Christie a full person, so we will call her seven for this slide. And, then, we have our
public education specialist Pam Moore. We now have five fire stations. We have a fire
safety center and we have a training tower and as we go through the budget and you
look at some of those numbers, when you think about that now, that's actually seven
different facilities that we need to pay maintenance costs on and utility costs and repairs
on and all those kind of things. So, the more facilities we have, obviously, the cost is
correlating in the budget. In addition to that, the apparatus fleet that we have, the fire
trucks that we use, we have five front line engines and I'm counting the new engine that
will be delivered here in about two or three weeks in that count of five front line engines,
so each of the five fire stations has a front line engine. That gives us two reserve
engines. We have two brush plugs that are four wheel drive units. We have a water
tender that in the rural applications where we don't have fire hydrants, the water tender,
basically, is -- just carries a whole bunch of water to the fire for you. An air supply squat
that we use for refilling our STBA bottles off of. One utility pickup that was purchased
last year by the rural fire district and, then, we have six staff vehicles. And, again, it's
important when we look at these, because these aren't your typical vehicle when it
comes to maintenance costs. You don't just run down to Minute Lube and get the 39
dollar quick tube when these go in for service. When they are taken in for service it's an
all day service, sometimes two days before we get them back and, typically, just a
routine oil change, filter change, those kind of things, is in the neighborhood of about
500 dollars per trip and if you have any repairs done, it's unusual if you get out of the
shop for less than a thousand or two thousand dollars and when you look at our line
item for vehicle repairs, you. will see that we are asking for considerable increase and
that's because we went through our entire vehicle maintenance line item the first six
months of this budget .year and most of the shops that we get those repairs done at
you're looking at a minimum of about 80 dollars an hour shop time. A few statistics for
you to look at. The fire and EMS responses for the '07 year was a little over 4,000 calls.
Fire prevention and inspections I want you to pay particular note to that, because if you
will remember two years ago we had a fire inspector position. Prior to that we were able
to inspect about 500 businesses a year and we estimate that we have somewhere
between 1,800 and 2,000 businesses in our community a year. So, combined with the
fire inspector, the company -- the fire companies themselves doing the inspections, we
are now hitting close to 1,500 business a year with inspections, but we are still not
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you be a firefighter. That's no longer the case. They require that you actually go
through some type of live fire training and Meridian is one of the few departments in the
state who has a facility where live fire training can be accomplished. So, when folks
want to certify to firefighter one and two levels now, the state is actually coming to us
saying, hey, can we get -- bring these guys over to your facility and run them through a
live fire training scenario before we certify them and we say, sure, as long as you want
to help us out with some of our operational costs. So, we are trying to figure out exactly
what those -- those fees are going to be with those folks and, then, we will be charging
them a fee to recoup our costs. We opened the fifth fire station as we talked about,
about three weeks ago. It's a little early to tell what kind of an impact that will have. We
will have to wait a couple months to see. I can tell you the station has been extremely
busy since it has opened. July is always the fire department's busiest month of the
year, I think due to the dry conditions and the Fourth of July combined, but the guys out
there have not been lacking for calls and it should have a significant impact on, again,
continuing to lower our response times, especially in that area to the north, the Lochsa
Falls and Paramount and Kelly Creek and all these areas out there. We also hired and
trained the four firefighter EMTs I talked about in October. We actually ended up -- we
had a guy retire about the end of August last year, so we had four, even though we
were only budgeted for three new ones, it was -- one was a replacement. Then, we
hired the nine new firefighter paramedics and, then, we also trained ten new part-time,
on-call personnel. So, we, actually, ended up holding three 14 week recruit academies
and that's not a small task in itself. That's training eight hours a day with those new
recruits and so that consumes a tremendous amount of time for our deputy chief of
operations Bill Johnson, as well as all the on-duty shifts and captains, because they are
all involved in that training. It also involves EMS training with Deputy Chief EMS Mark
Niemeyer, as well as our medical director Dr. Ross and countless others. We also
participated in and graduated the two citizen academies that Chief Lavey talked about,
so I won't elaborate on that. And, then, we did ten new car seat technicians. Our '08
enhancements, I wanted to give you an update. As guys were talking about earlier with
the ball fields and stuff like that, wanted to know the result. I'd like to come back and tell
you what the results are of what the money is that you gave us last year and what we
have done with that. Station five was completed on time and within budget. I can tell
you it was actually in the neighborhood of about 20,000 under budget. So, we were
happy for that to happen. We just have the traffic signal that we have to get completed
still and that's our only other outstanding issue with that one. The new fire engine for
station five is to be delivered the end of this month. We have two firefighters -- two of
our captains are actually going back next week to do the final inspection on it before it's
delivered out here. All the additional staffing that was hired and trained, so we didn't
just sit on our heels, we went out and got those folks recruited, hired, and trained, which
is no small task. EMS mannequin was purchased and trained. All the personnel -- this
is a -- kind of a unique mannequin. It's not just one that -- kind of like what we use for
fire training, that's just a heavy dummy, basically, that you pick up and cant'. This
mannequin has all kinds of features that can give you pulses and respiratory rates and
all those kind of things and it's used specifically in the area of EMS training and in with
our EMTs and our paramedics, this is an invaluable tool for us to use for their training.
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incident that he's ever been on in his life since he's been with Meridian Fire Department
and we can look at all the training records that he's had by topic and hours, all those
kind of things. So, that is a software that we plan on continuing to use and you will see
a request in our budget for Firehouse software support. The mobile command post
trailer, we have set up a committee within the emergency management team with the
city. We have some specs that we have put together. We have identified a source. We
are now sitting down with that manufacturer and their design folks and, actually, doing
the layout of that and we hope to have that purchased by the end of this year and, then,
that will be used at community events, such as the Dairy Days and those kind of things
when we do that unified command post, that can also be used citywide, whether it's fire,
police, public works, whoever, for any large event or emergency that we may have
citywide. And, then, also in our enhancements last year there was money in there for
furniture for the admin for the new City Hall and we have given our list to the purchasing
department and so you guys probably know more about where we are at on the process
than I do. So, I wanted to give you a quick comparison between our 2008 and our 2009
budget and there is a couple of interesting things that when I put those numbers side by
side that it pointed out for me. Our personnel costs, as you can see, were 5.6 million
last year. This year they are 5.9 million and so about a 300,000 dollar increase. And
most of that 300,000 dollars increase is those things like those additional promotions
that we ended up doing with the opening of station five. We had to promote three new
captains, six new drivers, those kind of things that are increases in salaries there.
There is the cost of living and the merit increases. There is the increases in the benefits
and those kind of things that are included in there. And so a very small portion of that,
in the neighborhood of about 28, 30 thousand, is actually for a new position or
increasing that half time position that we have into afull-time position. So, personnel
costs, you can see where that money went. The operating costs -- this was very
interesting to me. We actually are looking at about a 400 dollar decrease from where
we were last year in our operating costs and, then, capital, last year we had about
550,000, that was primarily that new fire engine and the equipment that goes on it and
this year that capital is the 1.4 million that you see there, about a million of that is the
new aerial truck and about 450,000 of that is the reimbursement payment to the rural
district for the 31 percent of the training tower and that's being paid out of impact fees.
So, I know when you look on your summary sheet that you were given in your budget
books, it's showing a 25.5 percent increase. You got to keep in mind that that 6.5
million dollar figure doesn't show our capital from last year, the 555,000 and if you were
to take out capital and all that kind of stuff, it's really only a 4.9 percent increase in
budget and, then, you can see the two major capital items, the fire truck and the
payment to the rural fire district. And so as we move through the '09 enhancements I
just wanted you to have a handle on those numbers and where they come from. So,
these were our five requests for the '09 budget. Aerial truck. A training instructor
position. To increase our part-time department specialist position from part time to full
time. A small remodel project at fire station one and, then, some additional modules
that we would add to our Firehouse software for doing staff scheduling. The aerial
ladder truck. I don't know that I need to spend a lot of time convincing you. I think
you're probably all convinced in the conversations that you have heard over the last
couple of years from me, but just to summarize, that this apparatus is something that
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for this year, we are going to rely heavily upon Deputy Chief Johnson to do that
coordinating between those captains and make sure that that training does have some
consistency. But I got to tell you it's difficult given all his other responsibilities. So, for
example, today they are having a curriculum meeting on the firefighter one and
firefighter two standards over at the state. It's a two day meeting and I have asked him
to come back for this presentation, but, you know, when he needs to go attend meetings
like that or he also represents us on a number of committees and things like that, then,
the training suffers also. And so we really need to have afull-time training position, but
we know it's not in the cards for this year, so we will try to get by without that and do the
best we can to compensate for those deficiencies. Full time department specialist
position. We have had one and a half secretarial support positions since I came to the
department three years ago and I can tell you that we have increased our staffing by
over 20 people -- I think in the neighborhood of about 22 people since I got there and
just the workload that increased administratively with adding that fire inspector position
and all those inspections that are being done right there justifies the increase in that
position, but we have all the new staff and all the training records that have to be
entered, the reports that have to be reviewed. We need to increase that position from a
part-time position to a full-time position and so that's what you see in the budget
request. I think it's 28,000 dollars or something in the salaries or something like that.
But it will -- definitely pay -- take benefits for the fire department and our overall
efficiency. Next enhancement request we have is for a model at station one. With the
admin moving out of station one, that we are going to have some areas in station. one
that are not going to be really efficient and we are going to have some space that's
available. Originally when we talked about doing that, we were talking about a project
where we would do a major remodel that would be in the neighborhood of about
300,000 dollars. I know that this is a tight budget year, I know it's a year when you're
not looking at expanding, so what I'm proposing is that we do a very scaled down
remodel and make that area more functional and I'm proposing that we do that with our
own staff. We have a number of firefighters who have skills in carpentry and
mechanical, ventilation work, and all those kind of things and so currently our station
one captain operates out of a hallway in the back part of the living quarters. Well, that
same captain is a person that we rely upon to do counseling and mentoring and be a
supervisor to personnel. That's kind of hard for him to do if he has to counsel
somebody in private when all he has is a hallway to do that in. So, what we'd like to do
is take that front reception area and some of the offices that we have now and frame in
some walls, move some walls, we will create a couple of offices, one for that captain, so
that he can do his daily duties. The second office we would like to create and reserve
for this training .officer position that you will probably see again next year in the budget
and, then, the third area is that we would create a second breakout room that can be
used for meetings and additional training. Quite often we have more than one training
session or more than one meeting going on and when that happens, we clear off the
dining room table and we go over there and we are sitting around the dining room table
trying to do those meetings and so it's not a real conducive atmosphere. I'm proposing
that we do that work ourselves. I have asked for 25,000 dollars in the budget to do that.
That work would include repainting, carpeting, all that kind of stuff, to kind of give that
area a spruce up. The station's about -- you know, it will be nine years old at that point,
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Bird:. Higher. It could go a little higher.
Anderson: Both Anna and the Mayor are dead set on increasing densities for the
community, even against -- against my will. I'd like to have those one acre lots.
De Weerd: I want one acre lots.
Anderson: That's what I want.
De Weerd: Okay.
Anderson: But I know to make mass transit work and those kind of things you got to
have the greater densities, so I don't -- in the interest of compromise, I know that that's
going to be a challenge for us in the fire department and how do we deal with setbacks
and the fire protection issues and those kind of things. The transportation system -- I
don't have to tell you guys. You guys probably get the phone calls more than I do. But
it couldn't happen soon enough. And, then, we are going to have other issues, like
mass transit, that are going to become more and more prevalent with the cost of fuel
and we are going to see more car pooling, we are going to see more buses on the road,
all those kind of things. So, instead of one or two car vehicle accidents that has one or
two passengers, we are going to have those vehicle accidents where we are going to be
dealing with ten passengers and a lot more injuries. And so that will continue to tax us.
And, then, as has been touched on already by finance and the police department is
funding for capital replacement. I think we have a pretty good handle with our impact
fees on sources of funding to look for future fire stations and the apparatus that is going
to be needed to go in those. Where I think we are lacking is we need to have a good
Capital Improvement Plan city wide, because when I go back to that second or third
slide that I showed you with our current inventory of fire apparatus and now when you
add the aerial truck to it, we are sitting on about four million dollars worth of resources
there that are going to wear out and some of those engines that are the front line
engines are now in excess of ten or 12 years old and they are going to need to be
replaced and so I started that conversation with Stacy several months ago when we
were working on our base budget about possibly establishing a fee, similar to the fire
truck -- or a fund similar to the fire truck fund where we could allocate money and build
that up, so that it could be used for public safety or whatever we decide there. But we
need to start with I think a good Capital Improvement Plan to know what it is that we
have for assets, what are going to need to be replaced and, then, start putting in the
appropriate amount of money. I mean we are talking about right now a million dollars.
Do we know that a half million dollars is adequate or should that number be a million
and a half at this point. We don't know without a good Capital Improvement Plan that's
laid out there. But I can give you numerous examples. It's not just the fire apparatus, I
mean the air packs that we use, for example, we have 300,000 dollars in air packs. If a
new standard comes out and if we are mandated by OSHA or somebody else to replace
all of our air packs in a year, we need to have a fund available that we come to you folks
and say we need to upgrade these. So, those are some of the challenges that I know
that you guys face and, hopefully, we can come up with a solution for those together.
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Simmons: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, first of all, let me just say I just had
my one year anniversary with the city about four or five days ago. It's been a whirlwind.
got a nice letter with the Mayor's initial with her signature.
De Weerd: And a smiley face.
Simmons: And a smiley face. For that one year. But it has been a whirlwind and just
want to say it's been a pleasure to stay here over at the City Council meetings and
watch and learn and, hopefully, be able to provide more value to the job I'm asked to do
here at the city. For the Mayor's office, we sat down after we did our reorganization with
all the members of our team, including the Mayor, and really sat down to look at what
our goals and objectives were for the office about what we wanted to try to accomplish.
As a group we came up with the following: We want to be the customer service leaders
here for the city. One of the things that we are doing as part of that is creating ahow-
are-we-doing card that will help track not just us, that we will be the first people and the
clerk's office to implement this card, but to really see how the city -- the city employees
interact with the citizens and try to help identify some of those trends. We also want to
engage the community and proactively to tell the story. That's -- part of that that came
out of that was in setting the town hall meeting, which was recently held, doing those on
a quarterly basis. As well as continuing other events that we do, such as Coffee with
the Mayor. Another aspect of this was largely placed into the community liaison
position, is establishing relationships with other districts in the city, such as the school
district, for example. I know that he started attending those -- their school board
meetings on a regular basis, as well as we want to extend that into other districts,
including the library district. We are partner with them on a couple of different
programs. Also we want to connect the community with access communication tools.
That included the city news that we have -- that comes out of the Mayor's office, doing
that in a timely fashion, as well as, you know, having a calendar of events, which are up
to date, not just for, you know, city events, but community events, as well as our faith
community. And that's been something that's been ongoing over the last few months.
In our office we have -- you know, I would argue probably the most contact with any
other groups in the city and they are varied in all different sorts. This past year our
office was involved in 46 ribbon cuttings and 29 visits to local businesses. We received
over 2,800 phone calls that were routed to us through the switch board. That's not
through, you know, of people that have our direct numbers, or extensions, for phone
calls we did or even cell phone phone calls, which seem to have been increasing quite a
bit of late and -- but from those phone calls we also -- e-mails, the number right here is
just for the Mayor, but she had over 1,100 meetings this last year, including 29 special
events and approximately 1,900 letters were generated from our office for various
purposes. So, we are talking to a lot of people in many different ways, whether it's over
the phone, through e-mails, through letters, or in person, we are connecting with the
community. When you connect with the community that means you typically have an
opportunity to resolve their concerns and that is a major time commitment on behalf of
our office, not just because they come to us, but because we want to provide the best
customer service possible to get their answers. We may not be the ones who are
ultimately able to help them, but it's through our office that they typically come to get the
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project. The Ten Mile overpass remains on schedule and we like to say that a large
part of the work that we did out of our office in mobilizing citizens both show up at the
ITD board meeting and get comments into COMPASS and ITD and to the area
legislators helped in that process. In addition, our community liaison has let us expand
outreach into the community with the -- maybe I didn't have this on the slide, but with
the work with the town hall meetings, that's a start, but that's been something that's
been very nice. Just the work on the new City Hall has taken a lot of staff time from our
office, you know, being the contact in our office through LCA with the community liaison,
has taken a significant amount of time, especially as we keep getting more and more
into the internal design issues on the building. We worked to implement a new logo,
including a manual to go with that logo that allows if you -- someone wants to use a logo
we say here you go, you can use it, here is the way it needs to be used, so there are
standards of consistency. We put a hot news section on the website, so when someone
comes to the front page they can see the most -- things of the day. that might be of
greatest interest and we have also been able to get video clips of our community on the
website, working through a company called CGI that has some nice community videos
showing Meridian, some of our downtown businesses and other parts and that was a
free service that was provided to us and we worked with them and I think that it adds a
nice touch to the website. In addition, we also worked with the help desk at this creation
to try to get the casework for really tracking the citizens and will recall the large citizen
issues, whether it was a letter, whether it was an issue that had to be resolved by code
enforcement, but we use that case management tool that was developed for by IT for
our office to help keep track of some these issues, so we don't have things that get, you
know, left behind on a customer service issue. And with that I'm going to turn it over to
Shelly Houston, and, then, Will will follow her up.
Houston: Thank you, Robert. Hello, Mayor, hello, Council, how are you? I'm Shelly
Houston. I have been community communication coordinator in the past and just
recently a transition into more of an event coordination type position. So, I have been
enjoying that immensely and one of my new responsibilities has been relating to
administrative support for Meridian's Promise. Ten years ago the remaining living
presidents, along with Mrs. Reagan, gathered in Philadelphia for America's summit on
the future and as a group they determined that all children in America needed five
essential promises to be fulfilled by others in order to assure them a confident,
successful future. Those promises were caring adults, safe places, a healthy start,
marketable skills and opportunity to serve. So, our Mayor, fortunately, back in 2004/5
had the foresight to understand that Meridian could greatly participate in this alliance
and initiative as well and have the foresight to have us establish as a community of
promise. And so now exists Meridian's Promise and now in 2008 Meridian's Promise is
growing and healthy. We have approximately 40 promise partners who are individual
and group members here in the community that have promised to do what they can
directly or indirectly to fulfill one or more of the five promises to youth and we have
everything from churches, schools, corporate partners, centers, individuals, every type
of entity you can think of has joined us as Promise partners and we are still doing more
to recruit. You might ask why is it important that we call attention to youth and their
needs. Research has shown that youth that receive four or five of the five promises
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annual Meridian Classic Kids Fun Run. This is literally a fun run and walk for kids ages
like five to 17 and it's with the Y and they raised from -- the parking lot at Treasure
Valley Worship Center over on Meridian Road, along the canal bank pathway -- is that
the Bud Porter pathway? Yeah. Bud Porter Pathway. And they end up in Tully Park
where there is a, you know, healthy snack and popsicles and every child receives a
medal and a T-shirt and someone there to give them a high five. So, that had maybe
between 80 and a hundred participants last year and this year we think it will even be
better. So, those are some of the projects we support with both funds and participation
and volunteerism. We also in the fall at the Meridian chamber luncheon, we have a
Meridian business supporting youth award where a number of individuals and groups
are recognized for their service to children and so that will be coming up I think on
November 18th. Teny at the chamber reserved the date for us, so we planned a
ceremony for that, so that we can do nominations and thinking who has really gone out
of their way to help support children in our community. Meridian's Promise is improving
some of its printed information and marketing materials and we are going to make a
nice handy dandy little Navy blue folder with the little red wagon sticker on the front of it,
so that literally there is a nice little presentation that we can leave with different
businesses as we try to recruit them as Promise. partners. Maybe last year you
remember seeing the banners that were hung from the downtown light poles, each
depicted a different promise to youth and so those -- those didn't take the weather so
well, so I think they are being retooled a little with a nicer material, so I think those will
make a come back. And, then, we are pleased that even though it's the summer
season, we are just now starting with new -- new officers and our co-chairs -- Mark
Bennett is a local realtor and, then, he's also the current president of -- or incoming
president of Meridian Kiwanis, which would be kind of a good partnership there and,
then, automatically the new chairman of the youth council becomes the Meridian
Promise co-chair and that's a nice young lady from Centennial High School named
Nichole Foster. So, between Nichole and Mark and the Shelster, I think we have a
pretty good leadership team and we meet monthly and have good attendance, so we
are feeling very good about Meridian's Promise. Organizations or individuals that have
joined are thanked for pulling their weight by receiving a plague and, then, a little red
wagon -- I know you have seen the little red -- the Red Flyer wagon. So, we will still
continue to present those to our new partners and, hopefully, they will chose to renew
their membership year after year.
Bird: How much do they cost?
Houston: How much do they cost? More than you have.
Bird: I knew that.
De Weerd: Fifty dollars.
Bird: How much?
De Weerd: The promise partners are 50 dollars.
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Leadership Meridian -- oh, just Leadership Meridian. Scratch that. They decide on a
community project they'd like to contribute to and so they fund raised and did what had
to be done to have alarge -- literally atrailer -- think of a horse trailer, utility trailer of
some sort, that will be decorated in anti-drug motif that will be able to go from event to
event, school to school with anti-drug education information and so that's great like at
health fairs and other community events. So, that's -- I heard it's in process of getting --
getting all dutied up, so that's almost ready to hit the road for the new school year.
When it's done it's going to look good. I heard it's very snazzy. It's great. So, those are
some of the things the anti-drug coalition -- I personally have to say that group is one of
the most enthusiastic, well attended, well rounded commissions or boards or
committees we have. Very impressive. And thanks also the Brenda Murdock and
Melissa Delaney over at the police department and Chief Lavey and Overton --
Lieutenant Overton for the support they give -- give them, so -- Communication we are
going to talk a little bit about really quickly. We still continue to do the City News
newsletter quarterly. It's an online publication, so we don't have to chop down many
trees, but we are still expanding that and growing the list of people we send it to and
other organizations that share it with others. I think we will be going with a more
consistent color scheme with our new -- now that we have our new blue and gold color
scheme, so that might be one slight change, but the content will still remain similar.
Annual reports. We have been putting out a piece around the time of the State of the
City address, so we will see what format it takes this year. Community presentation.
Those could range from anything from presentations we make to civic clubs. It could be
tours of the City Hall. Career Day. We often get invited to Career Day to tell what it's
like to work in city government. So, lots of presentations. We work hard to maintain the
intemet web content and the especially the hot list on the front page. We think we are
doing a better job of changing it daily to try to keep it snappy and up to date.
Maintaining the community calendar. Again, almost a daily endeavor. And we are
finally training more and more Meridian groups to let us know of their events, so we can
help them publicize. News releases go out on a regular basis, both on hard news and
event announcements, as well as if we have personnel announcements or something to
make. So, we are working on our media relations. Local magazines, as you will recall.
This year we have seen the advent of Meridian in the Middle magazine, there is
Meridian Magazine, Treasure Valley Journal is hanging in there. We have got Valley
Times. They do look to us quite heavily to suggest story ideas, submit photographs,
because they can't be in all places at once. So, we really make a concerted effort to
point out what we think is newsworthy in our community. Let's talk traffic. We make a
point to attend our different traffic and transportation related events and are capable of
putting up our lift top traffic display. And there are traffic and transportation articles in
every issue of City-News and a special section on the internet website. With that there
is a transportation database. We have been gathering a-mail addresses of people that
have expressed an interest of being kept abreast of communication -- of transportation
and traffic related type communications, public meetings, and that sort of thing. So, we
continue to grow that database. And, then, a speakers bureau. We do have a brochure
that's inviting homeowners groups, clubs, schools, churches, anyone who might like to
have a guest speaker come and speak to their group from our city, we have suggested
some topics and said, gosh, what would you like to learn about, let us know. And so if
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proactive in getting some issues out to their neighborhoods, which the town hall
meetings was one of those things to try and get some of the issues out to them before
they became a problem. I'm involved with the Meridian Historic Preservation
Commission as a staff representative. The Meridian Development Corporation. The
Mayor's Faith Ambassador's Council. The Mayor's Youth Advisory Council.
Association of Idaho Cities. And Lake View Golf Course. I get to create the relationship
with them. We have developed the town hall meetings, which will be an ongoing event.
This is an outreach into the community trying to bring the city out to the people, so they
would become more involved with the city government. Conflict resolutions. A few
things from the neighborhood parking issues. The downtown parking issues. Street,
sidewalk projects. Thank you, Councilman Bird, for helping us out with that. Some
ordinance issues and citizen inquiries. Am I going through this pretty fast? And, then,
the other thing I'm involved with is the building of the new City Hall, with the liaison
between LCA Architects, the LEED certification, topping out ceremony, and maybe,
hopefully, getting to that ribbon cutting ceremony in October. The next slide we have --
I'm going through here pretty fast so I can -- I got to -- next slide is the Mayor's Youth
Advisory Council, which is gained as a representative from the Mayor's staff and their
council. We bring together some of the youth of the community into a council that
advises the Mayor on issues and has some pretty healthy goals that they want to attend
throughout the school year. We have approximately 1,500 volunteer hours. They have
raised funds and awareness through events. We have the dinner and auction that
benefit the Idaho Meth Project and the Boise Valley Habitat for Humanity. They
received over 3,500 hundred dollars each for that dinner auction and we thank you for
your participation. We provide input on the city commission and committees, Meridian
Arts Commission, Parks and Recreation Commission, Solid Waste Advisory Committee
and the Traffic Safety Commission. And, like I said, I will have any questions that you
want for that, but we are gearing up for that, preparing for new members with the start of
the new school year and we will be getting together with elected officers and creating
our agenda for this upcoming year. Next. Mayor's Faith Ambassador's Council. This is
a council of the faith community. It brings together the faith communities to discuss
common goals and ideas from other faith organizations. We have collaborated on joint
events from different churches to make it more of a community, rather than just a sole
church event. And I think that's kind of been our primary goal is just to communicate,
you know, with what those events are, because there is a lot of times we don't know
what the car wash is or what special speaker or what kind of event they have. It's on
me. Collaboration was a volunteer thing that they are -- the youth of a church is willing
to do some work, such as cleaning up a yard or mowing a yard or doing some other
things and it's on them. No cost, no -- no burden to the property owners. So, that's kind
of -- should I say recognizing program that many of us didn't know about or many of the
other churches didn't know about. We collaborate ideas and events with each other.
We try to support each other on their projects and partnership with some of these
events. We also are creating a faith community calendar so that we are trying to get
some of those events in a section in our -- on our website that they can look -- and other
churches can look through that calendar to see what the upcoming events are. They
network with other organizations and really trying to make more community out reach.
The idea is to bring a youth member, as well as an adult member to these advisory or
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account the money for the State of the City funds to the scholarship and potentially to
their travel, so we wanted to make sure that that was not clear, that this -- so, what we
did was we reduced the travel budget thaf they had by 3,500 dollars down to a base of
1,800 dollars and, then, we were asking for an enhancement to you, that we will get to
in a second, to bring it back up to 3,500 dollars. So, you know, that's just a way to try to
make accounting happy and everybody else happy to show that this is actually money
that's in the base budget, not contingent upon any other funds coming in from another
location. That's the end result that we are trying to accomplish through that process.
But in the end it is a -- even if the enhancement is approved, it would be a 2,000 dollar
overall reduction in that. In addition, obviously, the big thing was the transfer of funds
related to the community liaison position from the city clerk budget, such as personnel
expenses, car, cell phone, employee incentives, all those items. So, this year, these
are the enhancements that we are requesting from the Mayor's office. We have
withdrawn the 1,000 Rocky Mountain High School scholarship. Part of that is based
upon discussions that have been going on in regard to a separate committee that's
been looking at the scholarship issue and one of the things they have discussed is not
having them be contingent upon any physical entity, meaning there won't be one for
each high school, so we thought we would just try to leave that at four, rather than
increasing it to five for the future needs of -- it's based upon individual school, which is
one way just to leave it as is without needing additional funds for that. As I just
explained, on the MYAC travel budget, we did decrease it. It was 5,500 dollars in FY-
08. Working with finance we decreased it down to 1,800 dollars in the base budget.
That's what should be in there. And we are asking for an enhancement of 1,700 dollars
to that account to bring it back up to 3,500 dollars, which is a net decrease of 2,000
dollars in that specific line item, but, as I said, to try to make finance and the accounting
process know that this is the intention that's in the base budget. This is the process that
we use to do that. Additionally, we are asking for a laptop computer for the Mayor, a
smaller one that is more mobile, as she's spending more time out of the office, we are
requesting one that she will be able to take with her -- not just while she travels out of
town, but when she travels to meetings at COMPASS or other locations, which would
get her out of the office for a couple of hours. A smaller more mobile computer will
allow her to have access to our network using the VPN from these meetings and give
her access to information that might be more pertinent at those meetings that she can
pull up immediately. It's really being able to get into our system and get the information
that's been prepared, either for her or that she has received, whether it's a letter or other
information to be more timely, as well as to take notes of when she's at that, which will
alleviate staff time that sometimes is spent typing up notes from the meeting and getting
them out to either yourselves or the directors or other people in the office. And, finally,
we are requesting the increase in our professional services account of 12,000 dollars.
This is to allow for a contract, potentially, of up to 1,000 dollars a month for professional
multi-media services. As we are the central point of contact for services not related to
emergency services, but all the inquiries that come into our office or are directed to our
office, when they do come in does create a fair amount of work and while we are able to
respond to those and -- with the resources that we have in our office between myself,
between Shelly, between the Mayor, it doesn't allow us to really do any of the proactive
work that we all talk about doing with the city in trying to tell the city's story. This is
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quality of life, which relates to part of what we actually have to sell. The expansion of
an educated workforce and lastly -- and we heard today from Chief Lavey and from Ron
-- is the fact the commitment to the public safety and the welfare of the citizens. Those
all are part of economic excellence. And I would say that every day is kind of nice -- I
get a compliment about the staff and sometimes maybe I'm the guy that used to talk
about making sure you tell people all the good things and a lot of the people in this room
have heard that, sometimes I don't do it enough, but it's kind of nice to go to a meeting
and when you talk to somebody and they are complimenting something that Bruce
Freckleton did or from Anna's staff or from somebody in the city and that's a reflection
upon the Council and everybody here. So, I -- what I have done here is this is an
update of some items that I would like to share that are more than what we talked about
a month ago when I kind of gave all the metrics and the executive summary in the
context of being a little bit brief. What I would like to do is reiterate a little bit about what
we are really seeing and one of those comments I would say is I'm very pleasantly able
to say that there is more businesses moving out of Boise, coming to Meridian than there
are businesses moving out of Meridian and going to Boise. And that is reflected by the
numbers and what's actually there. I would also say that it was very interesting this
moming, Ihad -- last night I had a gentleman here for dinner, he's a former director of a
publicly traded company. I met him at 7:15 over at the Marriott this moming and Andy
Wilk from Center Cal was there and, actually, Scott Terry, the manager of the hotel, was
telling me thank you and all this stuff and had the gentleman staying there and Andy
and Center Cal had 15 people staying at the hotel and if you think they weren't excited,
it was kind of like a group gathering. Two of them were from Singapore. He says that
those of you who know -- Anna and I were talking about it a few minutes ago -- that
Center Cal has been taking that actual model of the total project, they have been taking
it around the country and they had it at the big convention down in Las Vegas.
Unfortunately, in the move of the model -- it's as big as the -- as wide as the platform
here. The model actually got broken up and the model was made in Singapore, Andy
proceeded to introduce me to two of the gentlemen that had been flown in from
Singapore to actually -- actually make all the corrections and to repair the damage that
had been done on that. And as I indicated, I will say this to Council, at least without all
further detail, 'it's all steps forward with regard to that project and you're going to hear a
lot in the next -- actually, by the end of this month and Andy actually ended up with a
briefing for about 45 minutes and he was as excited as I have seen him with regard to
that and I know Anna will speak a little bit about-that and some of the impacts. So, one
of the things -- and, actually, there was a couple of individual discussions that I had had
with a couple of Councilmen and, actually, Joe and I actually talked, too. There is one
of the things we have been very active looking at. Sometimes it's good our story is nice
if everybody has some facts, other than just me or the Mayor or we are talking about
them -- almost call them brag sheets and we are working on that from a marketing
standpoint, but we are also going to try to make sure and update to the Council that you
get a chance to have that information to help us tell the story continuously. I would
mention that in some cases when the Mayor and I go on site visits for businesses that
I'm engaged in, I am asked in some cases -- I mean we had a situation of a privately
held company that actually pulled out and showed us financial statements. I have to
say that we are very -- from the professionalism, integrity standpoint, it's one thing for
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mention to you -- the Mayor and I had a meeting with another software company here
just last week. I can tell you I have already connected them and they are already
looking at the meeting and potentially they may end up being one of their first tenants,
although they had already got tenants lined up. But that entity ends up becoming an
emerging business center that we can see 25 to 50 times the entities, that may either
move out of their house or the new entities who can walk in and have state of the art
technology in a different way than we have seen in this valley. And it's exciting. I'd say
next Thursday, if you could, if you can it's 5:30 to 7:30, that's the open house at the
chamber -- it came out in the chamber notice. And the principals will be there. Both
gentlemen -- one gentleman lives up in Sun Valley. The economic excellence breakfast
series is continuing and going forward. The part I would want to mention out of that, at
the suggested and thanks to the support from the Mayor and the Mayor's office, we
have the last breakfast videotaped. And we are now in the process of, like I say, editing
that tape, we are trying to shorten it down, so we can use it for multiple purposes. Andy
Wilcaff, before today, he wants to give it to his people, Porter Nievelli out of BVEP
wants that. I have been requested of it by an investing group out of Arizona and it can
be a tool for us and we are able to -- and most of you were there. We couldn't have it
any better than having some of the spokesmen like we had with Dennis Johnson and
some of the people and the ideas were not -- we are not trying to edit it -- we are editing
it, we are editing only to shorten it. Maybe some of the comments that we think are
appropriate, if you really put the concise thing where it's consistent with our scoring.
would also tell you that -- which is very exciting, is next Friday --that Friday is the next
president -- the president's advisory council from ISU, we have part of a presentation
There that Scott Perrin and Associates was going to be making that I have been
working on with them and they are now going to go into afund -- actually fundraising
campaign, they have outlined it. The fundraising campaign is all titled around the
Meridian Health Sciences and Technology Corridor. They want to cooperate and be
collaborative with regard to the public relations side, so we can continue to leverage off
of telling our story. And so you have all 16 board members, in addition to the alumni
association, and everyone going forward in that. And so the timing on this is -- since
talked to Council last time, I met with Don Detriech, the head of the Department of
Commerce, in addition to the fact we have now had discussions through the governor's
actual task force on health care, of which Robin Dodkin from ISU is the sole actual
educational representative. And three of the speakers that we are talking about
potentially as a key note speaker for that presentation, which we think would be perfect
timing, because it's related to the launch of more of a concise overall marketing
campaign to the health sciences technology corridor, because what the Mayor -- it's
been suggested. She hasn't heard this yet. We want to ask the governor first, because
he was coming -- the recent speaking -- the recent speech to IACI and talking about the
health sciences corridor. We are going to ask the governor first. If the governor says
no, we are going to ask him for the chair who is on their task force on health care
throughout the state, Robin has already talked with him. And a third to that we are
going to ask for Don Detriech, because I went to Don Detriech at the Mayor's direction
and Don Detriech has now been presented everything on the health sciences
technology corridor and I say our enthusiasm and excitement about it is a little bit
different in a way that that's kind of recognizing that, you know, Meridian is here, it's not
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only in the fact of bringing him around, we had a chance to show him Meridian, we had
a chance to talk to him about the business enterprise corridors. We had a chance to
have that direct dialogue, they got a chance to see what was going on. We also had a
Micro 100 tour. They are at Plexis out in Nampa. They actually rotated, but we made
sure -- and I can tell you Dale did an unbelievable job to the point that the people were
going wild. They could not -- they could not believe -- and as you know, even in that
brag sheet -- and maybe you don't know this, Dale's now distributing his product in 50
countries globally and when they look at -- looking through a drill bit that's being used
for the I phone in China that you can't even see through a microscope, they kind of got
with it. So, I guess -- the Mayor's telling me -- I'll move on. Is that the -- the pro active
engagements that's existing in emerging businesses -- I only want to say this as a
representative to what happens every day with regard to that pro active engagement.
Many times on communication it means we know what the businesses want, we
continue to ask them what can we do to support you and you know what is really
interesting, we are getting a lot of businesses saying to the Mayor and they will say
what can we do to support you. And that's exciting. And so the new business outreach,
when you say -- I guess my final comment would be there is we must be aggressive and
pro active with all our overall efforts. We can't sit and wait for them to come to us and
would say that's part of the identity that really looks at it. So, from the budgetary
standpoint, there are no requests for any enhancements from the economic
development budget. You know, we -- and I guess part of that is I think it's acredit -- I
guess you are -- you are supporting it by the budget things you're doing with, whether --
Ron and I were just talking about the ladder truck, because it's real tough forme to tell a
developer, yeah, you ought to be doing this, or whether it's Anna's staff and planning for
whether it's -- whether it's the police department, because that's all part of the city of
excellence for what it is. So, we are not asking for any enhancements at this time. I
hope that -- I will be glad to answer any other questions. As you do know, the plan that
I submitted to you about a month ago has matrix in it, has the objectives, and the things
that we discussed at that time.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Borton.
Borton: One quick question.
Stiffler: Sure.
Borton: When I looked at the budget there was a -- the last couple of years there was a
40,000 dollar dues, license, and publications line item that --
StifFler: I'm sorry, for how much, Joe?
Borton: Forty thousand. It's at zero this year.
Stiffler: That's BVEP. That was --
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local sales units on the left, we charge $29.25, that's simply the background check fee.
We don't currently have a fee in place for that. I'm working with Emily Kane in setting
up the clerk's fee schedule, so we can charge for that. The massage licenses the same
for an individual masseuse or someone who is -- I guess a massage vendor. It's ten
dollars, plus the $29.25 for the actual permit -- I'm sorry, the background check. And
the same with the security -- the private security services. Part of that fee is the
background check fee. And, of course, the temporary use and the citizen's use permits
right now, we are not doing a CS, like a pilot program over the next year, which we
talked about in our Council meeting. Some of these other cities they don't charge --
they don't have a massage or security -- they don't permit it, so -- I realize this really
isn't very good information, because it's really hard to compare. Accomplishments.
have only been over there for five months, so this is just kind of what I'm proud of us
doing in the last five months. I reorganized the office. I was fortunate to inherit a very
good staff from Will and we were also fortunate to be able to get Sheree Finch to come
back on board full time. So, there is myself and four people. We -- one of the other
things we did is purged the documents in the basement that had already been passed
by resolution and for us to get rid of and we had already gotten permission from the
state archivist to get rid of. That was over a hundred boxes. We worked together with
accounting and now there is one more aisle you can walk down in the basement. It
looks like a drop in the bucket, but we will get there. We are in the process of sorting
and moving and organizing to try to either -- once we have scanned in a record and we
have it permanently in a digital format, to be able to either pass a resolution to destroy
the records permanently or send those records to the state archivist that they can store
if we actually ever needed the original documents, we can get it from them usually
within a two day turnaround. We have about 30 boxes downstairs right now of old
minute books from City Council meetings, Planning and Zoning meetings, that's our first
step is to get a resolution before you all in the next couple of months, hopefully able to
send those to the state archivist. We worked with Sheree -- Sheree has been just
excellent at working with Microsoft Access. She helped us put together a permits
database, which allows us to actually have some history on the different permits, how
many we have done, who we have sent them to, when they renewed. She's been a
very very valuable tool with her skills of just putting together -- she helped me put
together my portion of this presentation, because Powerpoint's not my strong point. We
migrated from a tape system from audio recording to -- from cassette tapes to digital
audio, which is going to help us long term to be able to store them permanently. We are
getting ready to send a bunch of the tapes, once we have passed a resolution, to be
able to send those to the archivist, but for a long term solution, talking 30 years down
the road, we are hoping that the digital will be more of a -- a permanent record a better
way of I guess storing our audio of our meetings. It also helps us to be just a little bit
more mobile when we have meetings in different places and if things aren't held in the
Council chambers, it's just a little digital recorder that we are checking out and getting a
lot more use from --from the different committees. Working on redoing the filing system
to a date driven filing system, rather than by title, like for a project, instead of doing it by
title, it will have a project number, which is easier for researching and looking for stuff in
LaserFiche later on down the road. We worked with Dean, our transcriptionist, to come
up with some guidelines on just little small things here and there that we were proofing
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right now is it's -- Tara and I are kind of the keeper of what's going on until we send out
that draft agenda, we get requests from Planning and Zoning, you know, checking out to
see where the projects are, are we getting it on this agenda -- they really have no way
to access the agenda until they get a draft to find out where something's at. With this
software it's constantly a work in process that people can log into, they can see, okay, I
submitted this request, it went to Keith Watts on this date, has he looked at it, has he
made comments. Keith could make a comment on that item, say, no, it's missing this,
need more detail, you need this, and it would send that person an a-mail back saying he
has seen it. It's just a checks and balances process through the whole system, so
things don't get missed, things don't get -- they have all the proper sign-offs before they
actually get on the agenda in front you at a Council meeting. It allows us to track
something that's been on the agenda all the way back through our Planning and Zoning
-- the inception of it in -- on a Planning and Zoning agenda. I think that right now would
be a great time to do it if we were to convert over from a totally manual process to an
automated process where we could have some history and tracking and accountability
before we speed up again, before the projects start coming in hot and heavy. I know
that I have support from finance on this and I don't know if Stacy wants to say anything
about it or not, but I know that they are in support of this, too, from their end of things
and how things get on the agenda, especially regarding contracts and stuff like that, so
-- have I said it all? Okay. So, the one time cost is the 18,000 dollars and that's the
additional module that's added onto our base system that we already have and, then,
the annual maintenance of 3,000 dollars. And with that I am finished, unless anybody
would like to ask some questions.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions regarding this section on our agenda?
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Zaremba: I understand the need to have good scanners and that should happen at
some point, I agree with that, but have you explored -- back up. Okay. As we keep
producing more and more records, the current and new records should be scanned in.
But you're also talking about going back and doing, what, 50 years of stuff that's in the
basement?
Holman: I'm talking about doing 40 four drawer file cabinets of records that are in the
basement and in other places throughout the city and that's just our records.
Zaremba: Is that. something that we could contract out to somebody to come do?
Holman: Yes, it is. But it's very expensive. They charge an hourly rate. They charge
you more if they have to take it off site. No. They charge you more if they have to do it
on site. I'm sorry. So, there is a -- a process that we would have to go through in
organizing all of these records, putting them into like an Excel spreadsheet or some sort
of a list, because you have to create a chain of custody, because you're dealing with
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2:10 am Stacy Developmental Services Presentation
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions, Council, for Jaycee, Phil, or Robert?
Okay. Thank you. Okay. Finance. Stacy. Development Services presentation. Are
you presenting for Building and Planning? Oh. You're the preamble.
Kilchenmann: The preamble. Yes. I did most of it. She just wanted me to add some
extra detail.
Zaremba: While things are being organized, Stacy, can I ask you a sideways question?
Kilchenmann: Sure.
Zaremba: Is there a point at which -- let me back up. We had a couple of departments
talk about their vehicle fleet and the maintenance on them as they age and stuff like
that. And maybe this is a question for Public Works at some point, too, because they
probably would end up with it, but is there a point at which it makes sense for us to go
through a motor pool or a fleet department that would not only use fleet purchase ability,
but also do the routine maintenance -- maybe not major crash reconstruction, but --
Kilchenmann: You mean like hire maintenance? Hire a department or like --
Zaremba: Just a single department that -- I mean I -- do we anywhere know how many
vehicles the city owns? Each department knows how many they own, but does
anybody know --
Kilchenmann: We do. We do know how many vehicles the city owns. We track that in
the system.
Zaremba: And do we know the combined --
Kilchenmann: And if Keith Watts were here he would be doing cartwheels because you
asked that. And, actually, it probably -- I don't think from my experience with the state
and the city that it ever makes sense to actually run a garage yourself, but it probably
does make sense to have some kind of tracking of the whole fleet in one place, because
think the state found -- and they, actually, did -- they had a performance audit
department and they spent a year looking at vehicles and what they found was the state
collecting this -- this fleet of ancient vehicles and their maintenance costs was just
accelerating and accelerating and so that's when they came up with the -- and the fleet
-- cars are being replaced, but the old cars just go to somebody else, so the fleet wasn't
staying the same, it was getting bigger and bigger and bigger, but it was full of crap, you
know, it was getting full of -- so that probably is something that we could actually do
now.
De Weerd: Is that a technical term?
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street lights until we go bankrupt like Orange county and, then, we will probably still pay
for them and we are going to -- we are going to be in -- we are going to join Valley Ride,
that's a commitment we have made, as a part of general government, so we have,
cleaned all that out of that fund and so the fund can focus on its primary function.
Another thing -- I know you on the monthly financial statements I gave you this morning
we talked about just the overall -- looked at the overall fund, where it would end up, and
wanted to remind you in this year's budget there is a capital piece of 200,000 dollars.
And I can't remember exactly which project it's for. I think it's for the Heritage ball field
or that lighting project and so that -- those projections take into account spending that.
If you look at their -- if we look at the monthly financial statements and look at just the
base budget, they are -- they are staying on track like I said, they are -- the fund is
breaking even. We did in the budget for '09, we are showing on the very top part of
your General Fund summary -- and you will see that again when Todd puts the
summary up. We have moved about 440,000 dollars worth of expenses for the
Development Services Fund. We are making a transfer from the General Fund. I'm
fairly optimistic we won't have to miss that transfer, that they will continue to break even,
but, again, we want to be very conservative, we want to make sure we have that
operating reserve in there for them, so we are showing the transfer in this budget. A
good likelihood you can take that money -- and, again, we have talked about building up
a Capital Improvement Fund again and building a public safety fund, but we want to
take a conservative approach. Also, in Anna's budget, in her summary, there is the
237,000 dollar grant and we don't show the revenue on that page for summary that is
offset by revenue. But the grant -- her department -- Sara Wheeler, I believe, is
managing that grant,. so that's where we put it in her -- in her department. Again, it's a
hundred percent offset by revenue. So, that's just kind of some basic little facts about
that fund I wanted to add before she goes ahead with her presentation. Are there any
questions about that piece or the piece I did this moming? Okay.
2:25 pm Planning /Building Department
Canning: So, before we get started, we have these Development Services Fund ducks
put up here, so that you know we all have our ducks in a row.
De Weerd: They look like Elvis.
Canning: Yes, they are. They are Elvis ducks. And also ducks aren't just a noun, they
are also a verb, so it's to remind me to duck if I get it coming, too, so --
De Weerd: You're the only one that throws things.
Canning: Well, you have got them to throw towards me, I suppose. Bruce and I are
going to start off this presentation together and, then, I'll do my portion and Bruce will
follow up with the building department. But we wanted to do it together as the
Development Services Fund. And also before I start, I did want to remind you that
Stacy told you this moming that the Development Services Fund has paid 8.2 million
dollars for the CIP fund from fiscal year '03 to fiscal year '07. So, we just wanted to
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shows you all the concurrent applications. It gives you all the owner information. Oops.
Maybe not. All the contact information. The applicant. The hearing dates. As you see
it was numerous hearing dates. And, then, whether or not it's been approved. So, that
needs to be updated. But that -- the search capability is quite good on this as well. So,
we are still working out some of the bugs as you can see. Kind of embarrassing. But it
really is a tremendous tool and what we'd like to get done is have this linked to agendas
and so that they can see what the applicant submitted. Also, the next step that this --
the reason we started this online database is for the staff report function. As staff we
can go in there and it will take that information that we put into the database and begin a
staff report for us. Then, that staff report will also be available for people to view from
the front page, as well as an uploaded copy of the site plan or preliminary plat or final
plat, whatever that application is. So, we really want to work on developing this and
make this a tool for people to really understand a project, rather than having to come
into the office. Okay. So, now we are going to talk about our applications. So, we have
had 102 hearing applications thus far, including 72 -- and we have also had 72
certificate's of zoning compliance. We have had an average of eight items per Planning
and Zoning Commission hearing and an average 15 -- call them official preapplication
meetings with clients per month. There really are more, because a lot of times they
squeeze in a second one whenever they come in for the first, but we have had 15
official ones. And this is just to show you the hearing applications. It's been kind of
interesting. We had a lot of new applications during the winter and a lot of continued
ones as well. And, then, April definitely was a unique month for us in that we had no
continued or new hearing items, but as you can see it picked right back up again and,
actually, for the month of August we have 11 new hearing items. This is our
applications by type and I wanted to show you this to show you that most of what we do
is stuff you all never see. Sign permits, temporary sign permits, certificates of zoning
compliance, Conditional Use Permits, and design review are the top five and they are
ones that you don't see. Alternative compliance was another big one we do that you all
don't see. So, a lot of our applications are items that they are admittedly smaller, but
they do take up time -- staff time and resources. When I asked you for two new
planners several years ago, one of the -- one of the statistics I gave you was current
planners versus applications, how many were they doing per planner. This graph,
basically, depicts that as well. So, you can see in 2003 we were about even on the
applications versus planners. We were really struggling to keep up with stuff in 2005.
You gave us the two new planners in 2006 and we have come down slightly for 2008,
that's the half time position for Sara Wheeler, we moved that to the Community
Development Block Grant Administration. So, 2008 is just about half the year, it's not
the full year, so if you double that it does show it's decreasing, but we have decreased
the number of staff iri currently planning as well. There are other graphs that I think are
more telling with regard to the current planning staff and I will get to those in a moment
and it related to customer service. Our customer service is our pre-application
meetings, as well as our public assistance. So, for public assistance we averaged 31
calls per day. So, if I take that down to an annual, that's close to 6,200 calls per year.
That's a significant amount of calls for just ten people or just seven people if you're
talking about the current planning staff. We get an average of eight front counter
customers per day. This was -- we took statistics for a month. It was a pretty much
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Ustick Road concept design, the Ten Mile interchange, the McMillan -Locust Grove
intersection, 8th Street sidewalk, the Highway 16 alignment study, and very active
participation in development monitoring of the ACHD five year work program and you
have seen all of those, so I'm not spending time on it, it's just to remind you that Matt is
out there every day advocating for the best interest of the City of Meridian and it's not an
easy job. We also staff or are members of a number of committees, including the
Transportation Task Force, COMPASS -- Matt is actually the chair of the regional
technical committee this year, cell phone and demographic advisory committee, the
transportation modeling committee and the -- we have the demographic advisory
committee twice. Look at that. He's only there once. There is also the neighborhood
advisory committee with ACHD, although I think Will is -- that function recently
transferred to Will. We are also on the Meridian Traffic Safety Committee and the
Blueprint for Good Growth Steering Committee. And we have also prepared a
successful application the AIC award for the pathways plan and Steve talked about that.
We also received an award or a plaque for the south Meridian transportation study and
it was recognized by the ACEC, which is the consulting -- association of consulting
engineers of Idaho in their award to Washington Group in preparation of that study.
And set up and maintain traffic websites on the city website and we are an active
community outreach on planning and transportation issues and have done
presentations to the Chamber of Commerce, participation in public workshops and other
civic groups. With regard to the GIS, this is one -- our half full-time employee. One of
the great things that I think they have done for us is they have added a layer on the GIS
that shows all of the development agreements that we have done and when you click on
that link it will take you directly to the clerk's record and show you exactly what
document is associated with that development agreement. Wanted to show you that
one, too, but I will have to wait until we are all in one building, so I will do that next year,
so -- but it is really neat and I think it will just improve our ability to give accurate
information with regard to development agreements. We have got the pathways data
and map updates. They also have worked on the online application and it extracts
information in the development services update report for enhanced communication.
They continually update our zoning maps for us, as well as take care of any of our
Comprehensive Plan map updates. They have been working at getting the historic site
inventory onto our GIS and they have also -- you may remember Caleb came to you
with a number of annexations that we had missed the opportunity when they hooked up
-- well, it was our GIS folks that noticed those originally and brought those to our
attention. We were asked to do a presentation on our fees and I just recently did a fee
update, so I'm just going to flash this at you more than anything else, so when you see it
remember that green means that the other jurisdiction is always less. Red means that
the other jurisdiction is always more. So, if the whole thing was green, that would be we
are not charging enough for -- or that we were charging too much, because everybody
was always less and if it was all red that would mean that we are not charging enough.
So, as you see it's a mix. The blue means it's unclear whether we are more or less, but
it's a good mix. I think we are right there in the middle. We, I think, do way more review
than a lot of the other communities do as far as their development projects, so -- okay.
Going on to our '09 budget. This is our year-to-year budget within enhancements. The
2006 and -- or 2007 and 2008 peaks were related to a lot of studies that I had asked to
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Canning: Pete's good at many things, I teased him, because he's not my technical
guru.
Freckleton: Okay. Well, thank you for your time. I know you guys are -- this is pretty
brutal on you being up here all day long, so I'll try and be very concise and get through
this really quickly. This first slide we wanted to, basically, give you a snap shot of the
makeup of the building department. Our current contract personnel staff -- as you
know, we have five contracts that we let. We have plumbing, mechanical, electrical and
fire -- mechanical, electrical, fire and structural. Each one of those contracts have
subcontractors that they have. Our current level of all personnel under those contracts
is 13 at this point in time. We are -- we are showing five FTEs for building department
staff. You can see there on the left the makeup of how we arrive at that five. This next
slide, building staff versus total permits. As you know, I think you have seen the new
graph today in your budget manuals that Todd produced that -- a brand new slide that
maybe shows a little bit different permit level. What we wanted to represent here --
Todd's slide only included new residential. What we want to represent is that it's not
just new residential. We have commercial. We have -- we have tenant improvements.
We have patio covers, the works.
De Weerd: Actually, I think I combined the two and I don't know which is the right one,
because they are not dated. So, I don't know which one I'm supposed to have versus
the other. I started putting them in my book and, then, I started getting them confused
with what I just took out and I didn't know which was the updated one.
Freckleton: While he's looking at that I'll continue on here. What we have shown in our
slide is total permits. So, we have included -- we have included -- this one is my slide.
The one that's on the screen is my slide.
De Weerd: Okay. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Freckleton: That's fine. That's fine. I want to make sure we are all tracking here.
Bird: We have got to date these, Todd, as they come out, you know. Like revised on --
at 1:00 p.m., 7/8/08.
Zaremba: Time/date stamp.
Freckleton: Okay. So, what my slide represents is all permits that are issued through
the building department, with the exception of mechanical, electrical, plumbing and fire.
And if we include those, of course, we would see higher permit levels, but what we
wanted to show is -- you know, works with our permit staff and our building staff that we
are tracking pretty well with the trend. Of course, we have not finished out 2008 yet, so
we anticipate it's going to be higher here.
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try and get better coverage. Plans retention. We have been exploring new innovative
ways for plan retention and document archiving. As you can imagine, the amount of
paperwork that comes into a building department, the rolls of plans, all the documents
and everything. So, some of the things that we have been looking at is getting
electronic --
Bird: I was going to say, most plans nowadays, even though they do come out in paper,
are electronically made and I would think -- if we could get them and keep a set of them.
Freckleton: Absolutely. One thing that we are looking at doing is requiring that all new
applications, when they are submitted for the permit -- or when we issue the permit, I
should say, after corrections have been made, is that they also submit a disk with
electronic files on it. So, we would get pdf files of the construction plans and
reconstruction documents that were attached. And, then, what we will do is similar to
what we have done in Public Works upstairs is be able' to use our GIS system for
access and retrieval of those documents, basically by clicking on a parcel you can pull
up a building permit for that parcel. So, those are the types of things we are looking at
there for -- for that system.
Bird: You don't have the system in place right now, is that --
Freckleton: We have components of it, yes. We have the GIS systems in place and
currently you might remember we -- we bought a large format copier scanner printer.
We have taken all of the Pubic Works documents, all the plans ~ for subdivision
development, all the sewer and water design plans, those have all been scanned now. I
have got five racks of plans upstairs that, basically, we will be able to send to storage
prior to moving into the new quarters and everything can now be retrieved through the
GIS system. So, we have gone to try and -- you know, trying to be more electronic,
paperless, for lack of a better term.
Bird: For records that would be great.
Freckleton: Yeah. We have been conducting monthly inspector meetings. A lot of
times we do more than monthly inspector meetings, in an effort to try and make sure
that we are promoting better communication between our contracted inspection staff
and our office personnel. Just, you know, eliminate questions, make sure we are all on
the same page moving forward. Also I think it goes a long ways to -- it gives us more
opportunity to communicate expectations as well. In addition, we also -- we have also
kicked off a project evaluation analysis and this one's a really, really cool deal. Brent
Bjornson has been on top of this. For lack of a better term, I call it loss prevention
efforts. Basically, what we are doing is we are scrutinizing more closely the project
scopes of work when they come in with permit apps. We are also looking at new permit
request forms, making sure that they are accurate when contractors are submitting
them to us. Basically, it's a competency tracking and monitoring has produced
additional revenue. We have literally been able to recover through this effort tens of
thousands of dollars in permit fees, basically by contractors misstating values, we are
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have been issued on this building.
applications, and plan in-take meetings.
De Weerd: For the one building?
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Freckleton: For the one building. Because they had a tenant improvement.
Bird: That 17 permits, that included tenant improvements.
Freckleton: Correct. Correct.
Bird: Only 34 inspections.
Freckleton: This building has not even received it's C of O yet.
Bird: Okay. Because that's -- for 17 permits, I don't care if they are El's or what they
are, for 34 inspections is awful low.
Freckleton: Yeah. Yeah. You will see a more representative example coming up.
None of the projects I'm going to show you have received their C of O's yet, so they are
still -
Bird: Oh. Okay.
Freckleton: -- in some phase of construction. Next project is the L shaped multi-tenant
building out at Portico. You may have seen the octagonal comer to that building.
Bird: See, that is -- there you go, there is 11 permits with 30 inspections and they are
farther along than Dennis' is.
Freckleton: It think Dennis is a little further along.
Bird: Is Dennis a little further along?
Freckleton: Yeah. Yeah.
Bird: That one's about ready to move into it.
Freckleton: Yeah. That one's really close. But, again, that's a shell. There is TI on one
yet. That's just a shell. This is the Norco building that's currently under construction up
at the Marketplace up at Eagle and Ustick. Thirteen permits, 25 inspections so far. You
can see it's, basically, a cold shell. One application. One plan in-take meeting. This
one is more representative, Keith, of where you're talking. C&A Elementary. Thirteen
permits, 97 inspections so far. It still has not received C of O either. One application.
One plan intake meeting.
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Anna kind of hammered in on this number again just a minute ago and I will hammer
again on it, too. This is our building department revenue versus expenses over the
years. You know, the -- during peak times our staff -- you know, I feel like our staff
spend less quality time, because they were so busy. You know, we are spending more
quality time now. The important thing to point out is that revenues still are out pacing
expenses and, you know, again, over the six year period we have transferred 270,000
dollars -- or 270,083 dollars to the General Fund capital improvement fund on to budget.
Base budget, reduction following market trend. Second year in a row that we have
reduced our base budget, kind of trying to tighten the belt in response to the market.
Four percent reduction overall in the base going into fiscal year'09. I will show you here
in just a minute on that 17 percent reduction in staff, where we are going there.
Basically, a hundred percent reduction in enhancements. I'm not asking for any
enhancements this year. So, building base budget, there is fiscal year'08 versus fiscal
year'09. Overall the decrease is four percent. We did this by trimming items, working
with Todd, sitting down, going through, trimming items that we could. Also from -- you
know, one of the things that we cut out that I think is a great accomplishment is we don't
do hardly any outside printing anymore. We used to have all of our forms sent out to be
printed and that sort of thing. We are now producing all of our documents in house. So,
all of the inspection cards that we are doing, they are coming off our laser printers. We
set them up to be able to do it in house. So, we are saving a bunch of money there.
We have also -- you know, working with finance, a lot of items got moved to appropriate
areas with the consolidation for City Hall and that sort of thing. Reduced enhancements
from '08 as I mentioned. I'm not asking for anything. We had one position on the
books, it was a funded position, for a permit tech that we are losing. We are eliminating
that. No enhancements requested, as I said. Going to the future challenges and
opportunities. Planning and building -- this is where we are going to tag team again.
Canning: It's a problem when you have got such different heights between you. There
is a couple of things we wanted to do together. We talked a little bit about this idea of a
project sponsor or manager or advocate -- we don't know what we'd call it, but some
way to have a selection criteria for certain projects where they would be based on the
fact that they are bringing family wage jobs or something like that, but having those
projects have a sponsor that makes sure they get through all the loops -- or all the
hoops without any loops, perhaps that's the way to say it. So, that's one idea that we
want to work on this upcoming year and see if we can implement and it sounds as if
Tom Barry has worked with that kind of situation before and so I'm sure he will provide
us wonderful insights on the matter. Another one that we'd like to do is within the
Planning Department it does require building department assistance as well, but a step
guide for applicants and I did one of these when Oracle was looking at coming to town
and it's a fairly complicated process, they had three or four things they needed to do, so
just sat down and figured out, okay, you need to do this first, then, you need to do this
and I think it would be a real great service to folks that aren't familiar with the area. You
know, it's not for the Brighton Corporation that's got it down pat, it's for the lady that
needs a variance for her fence. You know, just the -- this is what -- when you need to
contact the sign company to post your property kind of stuff. Really basic step by step.
So, we'd like to add those as well. We'd like to expand the pre-application presence to
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suppose. We also need to look at electronic billboards and our sign code, the
proliferation of new electronics with regard to signs has made our sign ordinance
outdated quickly, unfortunately, so we need to look at that. And, then, also looking at
some xeriscape options for landscaping and we have worked with the building
department and I guess more appropriately the Public Works. With regard to the
Comprehensive Plan, we don't have any major changes that we anticipate this year.
We would like to reformat it, just to kind of pull out the clutter and just get to the pithy the
stuff, make it -- reformat it for ease of use and implementation. Also I'd like to add
transit corridors and mobility discussion. And, then, one project we are working on -- I
talked to the Mayor about this, the University of Idaho students in the urban design lab
will be looking at the four square mile area on our western edge bounded by Can-Ada,
Ustick, McDermott, and Chinden, and they are going to use that as a study project to
look at urban design and comp plan issues and they will be working with our staff. It's,
basically, a no cost to the city -- minimal cost. I think we are going to pay for their
supplies. And it just gives us an opportunity to start looking at the area and start
discussing it with those residents and start coming up with some ideas of how to fold
that into the city. It's a very distinct and set apart area, especially as the Highway 16
extension goes down it could be bounded by two state facilities, so just looking at
planning for that area.
Bird: We did that once before. They did it on another part. Bruce, you probably
remember this. One of the University of Idaho students did that and did a beautiful job.
Canning: Yeah. And it's Sheree McKibben again, she's working with her students, and
she's very excited and I think it will be a great -- great project.
Freckleton: Another future challenge and opportunity is abatement of dangerous
buildings. Over the last couple of years I have worked pretty closely with Deputy Chief
Silva, we have identified several buildings that we have been working on trying to get
abated. We do have one that we are going to see some closure on this year. It's going
to be be nice to see. We do have several dilapidated buildings in town that do pose a
danger, so -- next is Building and Police. Through the Building Department we have
teamed up on several zoning code violations. A good example would be our patio cover
stuff that we have been dealing with. Dllegal patio covers. And so we got -- developed
some great working relationships with these -- these different departments. Building
Department technology I see as another future challenge. We need to be able to -- to
be able to provide remote access to the permitting system for our field personnel. One
of the things that I routinely hear is you need a system like they have in Nampa and
Boise, you know, where their inspectors in the field can be able to pull up realtime
information on the permits, be able to write correction notices in the field, print them on
a mobile printer right in the field, the information is uploaded instantaneously to the
office. So, I think that that would be a wonderful addition. Ability to accept credit and
debit card transactions, another thing that we hear a lot of; so -- ability to share
information with the entire enterprise, which allows our customers to have 24-7 access
to the building information when they submit applications and when they want to find out
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Bird: You collect them and that's part of the -- that's part of your profit that you turn
back and I appreciate that, don't get me wrong, I'm just -- I'm just stating that there is
stuff in there that --
Zaremba: Madam Mayor, is that just a pass through, you go --
Freckleton: Yeah. I don't believe that those fees were reflected --
Bird: Well, you wouldn't have any safety until last year or the year before.
Kilchenmann: What's the question?
Canning: The question is are the impact fees included on the Building Department
revenue.
Kilchenmann: No.
Bird: They are not? Oh. Okay.
Kilchenmann: They go -- when we record the revenue, they go straight to the impact
fee fund.
Bird: Okay.
Kilchenmann: And they show up in their respective parts, fire and police departments,
as revenue.
Bird: Okay.
Freckleton: The way that we code it when it's sent over to finance.
Bird: I still appreciate the nine million dollars.
Kilchenmann: 8.2.
Bird: I just rounded it up to make them feel good.
De Weerd: Any other questions from Council or Anna or Bruce?
Rountree: I have none.
Bird: I have none.
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Lavoie: Yeah.
Bird: Did you say that you're not a hundred percent right?
De Weerd: No, she wouldn't say it, but --
Lavoie: There you go. So, we did our best guess on the expenses, you know. After
two or three years when we are moved into the City Hall and after a few hot and cold
summers and hot and cold winters, we will be able to give you a good analysis on what
the building costs us compared to our old existing expenses and until then it's just all
guesswork. A lot of it is just our best guess that we can do. That's -- I mean, yeah,
that's the best -- after three years after another analysis we can give you agood -- good
hard number. So, that would represent the Other Government, the three new funds.
can stand here for any questions. Well, actually, I apologize. I do have one
enhancement. That is for the Arts Commission and Robert will present that to you.
Simmons: I have a couple slides on this one, but the Arts Commission came up with a
proposal for this upcoming year about what they truly think that they are going to need
in spending authority to do some new art projects for the City Hall. I think the key thing
to recognize from this is they have a ten thousand dollar budget, which is given to them
annually. They seem to remember a Council decision on January 22nd of 2008 when
they were offered 5,000 additional dollars from Council, that they --
De Weerd: They seem to remember that?
Simmons: They seem to remember -- yeah. The money was never actually -- no
budget amendment was done, but they would like to have it included in this upcoming
year as part of that proposal. The remaining 25,850 dollars would be from money from
their grant. Monies that they have already received from donations so far, as well as
future donations for that spending authority. So, the real impact of the 15,000 dollars for
their budget from the General Fund, 10,000, which they annually get and 5,000 from
which Council already said that they would do. So, if you have any specific questions,
would be happy to answer them.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, any questions on this item?
Bird: Yeah. Robert, you're telling -- they are going to raise the 15,850 and we are just
putting in ten and five or are we putting another ten in?
Simmons: You're putting in 15 total.
Bird: Okay.
Simmons: And they are putting in --
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Simmons: Well, they are asking for five to be covered through the General Fund
5,000 from Council that they had already discussed.
Bird: That's part of this, isn't it?
De Weerd: No.
Simmons: Yes, it is.
Bird: Yes, it is.
Simmons: It's in this number that they have prepared.
De Weerd: Oh. Okay.
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Bird: They had ten from last year and it's already been budgeted and taken care of.
We promised them five in May, but we did not put in the budget.
Simmons: Correct.
Bird: And, then, we got ten for this year, but they need 30 -- 50 and they are going to
raise the other, we hope.
Simmons: Yes.
Bird: If not, we got the 3,850. Okay. I agree.
De Weerd: Okay. And where is Bill Nary?
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Zaremba: I have a question for Todd. As I look through the Other Govemment and
what is included in there, they are not all governments, some of them are utilities and
stuff like that, which brings me to the question couldn't we wrap the street lighting --
instead of it being a separate line item, shouldn't it just be wrapped into this new group?
Lavoie: Well, historically, street lighting has always been its own department, so
guess that would be our chief, she would have to answer the question whether or not
we want to eliminate a department and consolidate. So, they would like to know why
and if we can put street lights into what is known as Other Govemment.
Kilchenmann: You probably could --
Zaremba: I'm not hearing you.
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actually, if we are requiring it and stuff -- and you have got to have somebody that will
maintain and take care of it. And I guess that is -- I don't like to. I guess that's our
responsibility I feel. We are requiring it. I don't have any problem -- I mean I do -- I wish
we could get somebody to take it over, but we require it for safety.
De Weerd: And, then, new developments -- the developments put them in, we maintain
them. It's where new lights are needed, who is responsible for putting those in. We
assume the responsibility for maintaining those. And those are the questions we --
Bird: And I agree with you, but not every location has a homeowners association or
something that could -- .would be able to take that maintenance -- or that replacement
cost.
De Weerd: Well, give it some thought and, you know, we can ask the question again,
but -- unless you want to just say forget it, we will just keep it as it is. And, then, that's
how we will do it. But you want to remember, it's going to get -- as we develop it's going
to get larger.
De Weerd: And that's the conundrum.
Rountree: So, the question in terms of expanding budget is the installation or the
expanding cost of power and maintenance?
De Weerd: Both. I mean there is --
Rountree: Well, it seems to me that installation of a new street light, whether it's in a
new development or an old development, is the responsibility of whoever determines
the need. We don't have a criteria that would establish any need in Old Town. If
somebody wants to put a street light in Old Town or in their neighborhood in Old Town,
then, they fund it. If it's put in appropriately and consistent with the rest of our facilities,
then, we maintain it. My question is who in the city is responsible for it? Is it Public
Works? Is it Parks and Rec?
De Weerd: It has been Public Works. Carrie has been doing it.
Rountree: Carrie has been doing it.
De Weerd: Uh-huh.
Bird: Charlie, what -- now, this -- I thought we were talking about replacing one. I think
the cost is up to the developer or whoever is putting in the thing to put the original one
in, but I thought, Mayor, you said who is responsible for replacing it.
De Weerd: The developer is long gone by the time we need to replace a light.
Bird: But he's responsible for putting up the original.
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Bird: Did you go to Moscow High?
De Weerd: Yes, I did, and I'm proud of it.
Bird: Are you sure the Vandals didn't rub off on you?
Siddoway: Good evening, Mayor and Council, I did take your comments to heart and --
the name is -- it says FY-09 budget revision. I took the challenge and I went back -- I
took the comments and I went back and sharpened the pencil. I've actually taken a cue
from police and fire. I don't think I did as good a job of telling some of the story of some
of the other enhancements that we thought we needed, but already from -- from our
proposed budget and I'm not going to spend a lot of time on it, because they are not in
it, but we did have an enhancement that's been withdrawn for a parks and pathways
planner. We do feel we will need that position, but right now, as Anna mentioned in her
presentation, for this year we are teaming up with the Planning Department to try and fill
that need, but we do want to significantly move forward our pathway plan
implementation and, then, Settlers Village Square phase two, I had originally hoped to
include that in next year's budget allocation, but at 1.2 million dollars that did not seem
likely. So, we have withdrawn that enhancement for next year as well. So, in terms of
some hard numbers, I have come up with about 217 -- almost 218 thousand dollars of
actual hard money that we could cut. So, I don't know if we have a clicker or -- we .can
just go to the next slide. On Heroes Park, one of our line items in that is construction
management and with the recent approval of that new contract manager position that
we are going to share with Public Works, we can cut that line item I believe to about
72,000 dollars. I have also been talking this moming, since our meeting with Tom Barry
and we are accepting reclaimed water -- or we are going to be accepting reclaimed
water from the wastewater treatment plant into Heroes Park. As part of that we have
the ability to fund a portion of our improvements with the Enterprise Fund through that
reclaimed water and also, Tom, would you like to just come up and say a word about
that. What I would point out, though, is that 78,000 dollars would be dependent on
approving that -- that project, which I know is not being heard until Monday. But let me
let Tom talk about that for just a minute.
Barry: Thank you, Steve. Madam Mayor, Members of the Council. Mr. Siddoway and I
got together this moming after we -- we took on the challenge of trying to find
partnership opportunities with regard to this particular project. One of the things I think
that we can do, since we are trying to utilize our reclaim -- our reclaimed water
resources for a number of different reasons. One, to lower the demand on domestic or
potable water, which affects the water utility. Also, to find a useful medium by which we
can distribute our reclaimed water or reused water. As you know, we have
infrastructure in place that will be serving Heroes Park grassland areas with our
reclaimed water. We feel that we can also use that reclaimed water to a couple of other
advantages. One, utilizing the reclaimed water on the parks site, as well as any other
site that we can find that we can put the reclaimed water on will help us to reduce our
phosphorus loading, because as you know on a presentation that was given several
months ago, we are under a heightened sense of regulatory urgency in need as it
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moving towards xeriscaping or towards not so much xeriscaping, but, essentially,
towards plants that are suited to the environment with which we live. And, then, of
course, because some of the costs are borne or would be borne presumably if Council
approves this idea, we would take on some of the contingency associated with the cost
related to the utilization of the reclaimed water. So, we believe with the construction
management savings that Public Works would take on, which was one of the reasons
we justified that position was recently approved. In addition to the reclaimed water
partnership, we can take off almost 150,000 dollars off that project, which is about a 15
percent savings. I'll let Steve talk to the rest of the other parts here that he'd got, but,
essentially, I do want to mention that if we move down this track and we partner with the
Parks Department, and you have got the little note at the bottom here, it would be
contingent upon Council approving an enhancement in the Enterprise Fund or by Public
Works for that difference in cost, which would not be the 149, but it, actually, would
78,000. So, if that's not approved and you approved this as it is, keep in mind that this
project will be compromised and you're going to need to approve -- if you're going to
move the project forward and if it's conceived, you need to -- you need to keep in mind
where the dollars are going, because we don't want to half fund it, if you will. So, with
that I will Steve continue.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Zaremba: There is probably no data on this, but just by instinct I would think that the
reclaimed water is even safer than the current irrigation water.
Bany: We have been told that by people, but I don't have any data on it yet. But, yeah,
there are many claims out there that the class A reclaimed water that we will be
producing at the plant is going to be at or better than the water quality coming from the
imgation ditches. I don't have hard facts on that yet, though. So, we are not able to --
I'm not able justify that. But it is a claim that's out there.
Zaremba: Thank you.
De Weerd: And, Steve, in light of the time constraints right now, Council does have this
in front of them. Do you want him to go through slide by slide or --
Siddoway: Do you want me to just jump to the summary at the end?
De Weerd: Yeah.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
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Bird: One thing I -- I -- the other stuff don'f bother me. I just want to -- but I think we got
to have that restroom maintenance and --
Siddoway: Yeah. And I would propose, just from what I know about the park and
commitment to the neighborhood, that I think we need that playground this coming year
also.
De Weerd: We'll just give them Councilman Bird's number and address.
Bird: Yeah. Give it to them.
Siddoway: But we can look at partnerships with SWAC to help fund that. You know, I
believe that Councilman Zaremba made a great point this morning that I believe we are
already seeing this year, that people are staying home to recreate with the gas prices
and things, that the people are not driving as far and the increases in hour usage on
both the parks and recreation side is just growing. We are not in a down turn at all, we
are -- we are seeing growth on all sides, both in parks use and recreation participation.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Zaremba: If I may, I would also add to that -- and I'm not sure what page it is. Of the
revised pages it was the second one. Where it is in all of them I don't know, but there is
a chart titled General Fund total budget by department with Capital Improvement Fund
and enhancements, even though it may seem startling for the Parks Department to be
asking fora 22 percent increase this year, they have grown the least of all of those that
are compared -- even though I know we are budget tightening, they need to catch up,
the Parks Department in particular. You know, not to put department against each
other, but the Police Department and the Fire Department have all grown. I consider
Parks to be part of the safety services as well. My instinct is every dollar we don't
spend on parks we will need to spend on police. Parks and Recreation I mean. But just
looking at -- if I'm interpreting the green square here on this chart, the '08 budget and
the '09 budget for Parks and Recreation are about equivalent to their 2001 budget and if
it needs to be 22 percent more, I'm in favor of that. I think it's catch up, because there
have not been increases over the years and we've had the same thing with -- over the
last year when we have increased certain fees, it's been because -- it sounded like a
large increase in fees, but it's because we hadn't increased them for ten years before
and I feel like the Parks Department is -- is in the same situation. So, I would like to
support -- I appreciate what's been cut out here and I think that's some excellent work
and the cooperation between departments is wonderful to see, but I would support the
rest of what you're asking for.
Siddoway: Thank you. And I think through those efforts we can -- you know, we have
come up with that 217, almost 218 dollars, that we feel like we can cut and would
propose that at least for your consideration. Any other questions. Thank you.
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Nary: I was just going to supplement that. Really, other than simply accounting for the
dollars and cents, it may fluctuate in accounting, at the public hearing, yes, you can
make it less, but you can't make it more. Not until the next year.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions? Okay. So, I guess Todd, go ahead and start
at the beginning, which -- on the capital replacements. Any questions, concerns in the
capital replacement list? Well, you have your capital replacement list and, then, we can
go into the enhancements.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Bird: Steve, I don't know if you can answer this. Elroy isn't here still. ~ And I know it isn't
a big item, but every penny counts. That '88 Kawasaki Mule, does that run at all or --
and what park have we got it at?
Siddoway: On the '88 Kawasaki Mule, it runs barely, but it's requiring a lot of
maintenance. It's about 13 years old now. Purchased in '95 it's got almost 10,000
mile --
Bird: If it's '88 it's 20 years old.
Siddoway: The Kawasaki Mule is '95, I believe.
Bird: It says '88 here. 1988.
Siddoway: Well, we have -- yeah. But we got it used in '95. It was an '88. We got it in
'95.
Bird: Is this the one we have got out at Settlers that --
Siddoway: I can't say for sure which park it's at. It is costing us more in maintenance
than it's worth.
Bird: That's all I needed to know.
Siddoway: Yeah.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions in the replacement list? Okay. Hearing none,
we will get into is the enhancements. Okay. The first set in Administration.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
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term. So, I don't think you necessarily delete it, but I wanted to -- just to make it known
that was a thought.
De Weerd: Okay. Well, I know that thought has come up before and it wasn't
something that the director or myself brought forward, so --
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I think I'm one of those that has mentioned it. I don't see that as being
immediate or imminent, but I do feel that sometime in the future we should split those
two pieces, two separate directors.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Bird: And I'd go along with Joe. I think that's something that we need to really -- look
into real hard and I don't think it's something you do down the line. And it's certainly
against nobody in either position right now and I think he knows that -- or I hope he
knows it.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, we have had this discussion before and
that's fine. Part of what -- as I talked to you in the presentation this morning is my intent
--one, we need training dollars. We need to make sure that our city is compliant. From
a risk management standpoint, from a legal standpoint, we have to make sure we are
compliant with harassment laws and a variety of different things. We need to have
expertise to do that. I would like that to be internal, because I would think in the long
run that will benefit us if we have our own trainers. Now, the city of Boise -- similar
discussion with their legal department of the city of Boise. I had lunch with them last
week with their human resources. They are looking to outsource some of their training
and if it's affordable, I'm fine with that. The trainer that they have is excellent. I have
done a lot of training with him, so I was very comfortable with him doing some training,
but I don't have a cost figure yet. As I told you in the HR analyst position, part of my
long term intent -- and I think I have discussed it with all of you at different points -- I
can see long term that the HR department may function like the IT does now, with a
separate -- with a separate HR manager that would have the responsibilities of
oversight, but we don't have the staff to do that today. We don't have any real means to
do that. So, although it might seem inviting to simply put all of those eggs in one basket
and hire one person, in reality Idon't -- I don't think that's in the best interest of the city.
We need the training for our personnel and we need to develop somebody to be able to
take on that role and responsibility. We designed the new office in City Hall to be able
to make that change if it was necessary. We have divided as where the offices are laid
out and where the conference rooms are laid out. We even -- we even built -- had one
of the main -- the main large conference room built with two entry doors to it, so if we
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then, could you get alower -- with a 72,000 and the 80 some thousand, could we get a
director and an analyst?
Nary: No.
Bird: Okay.
Nary: I don't think so. I think with an analyst -- I think with the analyst we can get a
person that has the skills and in a year or two we could look at that person to being at
least an HR manager at the least. Because I don't really think realistically you would
find a person to manage a department by combining all those monies together, because
you're still going to be lacking training. You're still going to be lacking a lot of other
needs and I appreciate your sentiments, Mr. Bird. Trust me, I have great staff. I don't
spend more than half of my time on HR. I do spend more than half of my time on legal
.issues. But I appreciate what you're saying, but the staff I have really make the engine
work every day on the HR side and I deal with -- other than the compensation issues
that we have seen and we have discussed, the policies which you -- which if you -- you
recall, because you were on the Council when we passed the policy handbook. Did the
HR manager write the current policy handbook? No. The lawyer from White Peterson
did. So, the legal issues I deal with on the policy, I deal with termination issues. Those
are the issues you have counsel dealing with anyway. So, I think -- I appreciate your
sentiment and we are trying to make sure we give the city enough value for what they
get.
Bird: I've had my two cents.
Nary: Thank you.
De Weerd: Okay. Any other questions in the HR? Okay. IT.
Rountree: The MS Office upgrade is out. It's already withdrawn, okay?
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Borton: Not necessarily -- and I guess to back up, when I made reference earlier on
priority lists and they were items which weren't included, which could have been
included, made reference to the firing range, for example, that -- you know, I look
through the list and comment an items that at least I have a question on and I'm not
necessarily a hundred percent sold have to be included. I'm sure they are -- anything
make reference to is of great value in light of the limited resources. The web content
engineer. One that gave me a little concern.
Bird: I would second that. I agree. I also -- Madam Mayor, if I may? I have a concern
on that expensive --
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vender sells an asset management piece, plus a land management piece. If we go with
the less expense solution, which very well may work, it's about 250,000 dollars less. I
think that what we are asking for here is enough money that we can get the city the best
solution that will provide the most bang for the buck, while doing the most -- providing
the best information to citizens.
De Weerd: Well, Terry, you mentioned a gap analysis that is needed and I don't know if
you mentioned that this could be phased in, but once a gap analysis is done is there a
phase in that is possible?
Paternoster: Madam Mayor, to answer that question, I think anytime that you approach
a project of this magnitude, it's going to be really more likely amulti-year project. We
are not going to go implement this starting October, especially with the new City Hall
coming on line and think that it's going to be done by June. The reality is this really is
more of a multi-year project that we are going to probably start with the building permits
software, since it is the biggest pain point for the city and, then, move forward. I think it
is possible for us to reduce the amount of money if we choose to do it as a multi-year
project, recognizing that we are not going to get the full benefit of the software until we
implement all the extra pieces. But we can at least make that first in road to really just
say, you know what, we are moving forward, we are committed, we are not going to
step back from this, we believe this is an issue. One of the things that I am
apprehensive about is if we do reduce this budget enhancement and choose to do it in a
multi-year project, I firmly believe that we still need to approve the position. The cost to
implement this type of system is a type of cost that to me its huge. The quote that I got
from the vendor was 75 percent of the total implementation -- of cost was
implementation and 25 percent was actually cost of software and so by implementing a
project manager or hiring a project manager on our side, we are potentially reducing the
amount of cost that we are going to incur over the long run, because we will have
somebody who can write reports, we will have somebody who can do some of the
implementation, we will have somebody who can modify the code and design it the way
that the city needs it done and so if we do choose to do this over a multi year, please,
recognize that, you know, the position really is required. I don't really think it would be
wise on our part to do it without that position.
Bird: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Mr. Bird.
Bird: I would never suggest that we do something like this over the years. I mean you
either buy it all upfront or buy none of it. The whole program. You know what I mean?
In my opinion.
Paternoster: Sure. And to address that, Councilman Bird, I think that that is a good
point, but this type of system really is a modular system and so if -- if it was an issue of
all or nothing, I mean I'd take all, obviously, but if it was something that we choose to do
it multi year, I think that it's better to get started than to continue to wait.
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Page 149 of 160
De Weerd: Yes.
Rountree: I personally don't have a problem being the scapegoat that the -- you know,
the Council has not chosen to make that a priority at this point in time, if, in fact, that's
what we choose to do. I, too, have some concerns about that particular position at this
point and it's been my experience that there is not synergism when you have a web
creator or a web engineer and try to start an Enterprise program. It just seems like they
don't get along for some reason and Iwould -- I am a hundred percent supportive of the
Enterprise effort. We have got to do it and we have got to get it done and, then, it will
never get any less expensive than what you're showing here. And I firmly believe that
there is no way you're going to be able to spend that kind of money in the next fiscal
year, because you're going to start looking at packages and there is going to be issues
and there is going to be consultants and there is going to be staff time trying to make
some of these things do what it is we want them to do. If you do, you need to get an
award, but I would like to see the Enterprise system get in place and, then, that's the
tool that's available for this new visionary, want-to-do-everything-on-the-web person, if
you understand what I'm saying. Been through it. It wasn't pretty.
De Weerd: So, it sounds like the web content engineer is removed?
Rountree: Iwould say keep it in for now and let people think about it some more, but
that's my position right now. Iwould be inclined to -- probably when we get to the final
budget, unless something changes my mind and the reading I do, that's probably where
I will end up.
Kilchenmann: Councilman Rountree, how long did you need to think about it?
Rountree: Well --
Bird: About five minutes.
Rountree: I mean there is four of us that can vote on this. That's my opinion on it.
just --
Kilchenmann: But you mean today?
Rountree: Well, if there is unanimous support to take it off, fine.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
Rountree: If there is confusion about it, we might want to think about it.
De Weerd: Yes, Mr. Zaremba.
Zaremba: I realize that this is a startling amount of money and to put all that in one
place is a little bit scary of a decision for me, but I will have to say businesses for at
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De Weerd: I guess -- Councilman Borton, I guess what they would like is right now, as
you suggested earlier, let's just leave it in. If during the public process that changes that
is what the public process is for. But we have to set something that you want at least to
be published for public comment and that's -- that's what they are trying to get. So, the
things that you can all agree on that should be taken out, we can -- we can work on that
and let's leave this -- the Enterprise software in and let it be vetted through the public
process. Is that what you're suggesting as well? Okay. Thank you. Okay. So, at this
point we have removed the web content engineer and the MS Office upgrade, which
was withdrawn.
Bird: And we left the Enterprise software in.
Rountree: Yes.
De Weerd: Yes.
Bird: Okay. I might change my mind by Monday, but --
De Weerd: Okay. Well, that's your prerogative. Okay. We are in legal now.
Bird: Oh, boy. He's only got two enhancements. Which one do we give him?
De Weerd: Okay. Mayor's office.
Bird: Oh, yeah.
Rountree: Is the scholarship gone?
Bird: Yeah. Scholarship's gone.
Zaremba: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Zaremba: Back on legal, I was just looking for the paperwork. Wasn't the professional
services contract with Boise -- weren't they asking for a little bit more?
Bird: That's adifferent -- that's not legal.
Kilchenmann: And that is actually built into the base, so it doesn't show up as an
enhancement.
Zaremba: Okay. All right. Never mind.
De Weerd: Okay. So, there was nothing in legal. Okay. In the Mayor's office we did
remove the thousand dollars --
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Page 153 of 160
Anderson: Give them some time on duty or volunteer. There may be some stuff, if we
can't handle ~it, if we have to have a licensed electrician, for example, move something,
then, there may be a little bit of contract stuff in there, but --
Rountree: I'm just concerned about liability issues. I mean there are saws and
hammers and nail guns and if they are doing it on a volunteer basis are we still covered
under workmen's comp and the city's insurance?
Anderson: Well, that's a Bill Nary question.
Rountree: Yeah.
Nary: Actually, when the chief brought it up this morning I did have Audi, since she
manages our work comp program, check with the State Insurance Fund. I don't think it
would be covered. We may need to contract with those -- since they are not doing
employee duties -- it's not like having the -- it's not like having a parks person build
something that's related to their duties. We may need to contract with those employees.
It's a completely different job function. So that way we can cover that. I will speak with
our insurer on what liability issues we might have, but it appears the State Insurance
Fund may not cover that as a work comp related injury, because it's not related to their
job.
Rountree: Something to think about.
Nary: Yeah. I think we can do it. I think we will have to just figure out a way to do that.
It just won't fit the -- it doesn't fit in the box that we normally have, but we will figure it
out.
Rountree: Okay.
Anderson: I don't know, I mean a lot of what they do is running chain saws and axes
and all those kind of things, so -- and we board up houses sometimes when there is a
fire and we busted out the windows, so I guess -- I don't see it as a whole lot different.
You tum firemen loose and let them tear up stuff and it's kind of the same.
Rountree: But there is still a potential of harm.
De Weerd: Okay. Anything further on the fire. Okay. Oh, Steve is back. Okay. We
are now in Parks.
Rountree: I would suggest we make those changes that Steve brought back to us and
move on.
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'08 -- to see where that went
where did it go?
I know we have done some budget adjustments, but
De Weerd: Okay. We did bring that to you, Council, a month or two ago. We will do
that all next week, okay? We will bring an update.
Bird: I don't know how the rest of you feel, but I -- but I -- that Heritage is a thorn in my
side and we are still giving it 19 five. I got a problem with it. I have got a problem with
it. I mean why do we have to redo that? That was all part of the thing. When we give
the 210,000 or whatever we give, we said that was it. Now we are back -- now they are
back wanting 19,500 more for it. It's not even our fields.
De Weerd: It is through the agreement, because we do have the scheduling and the --
and (believe that's what the agreement did.
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I think our agreement as per scheduling,
from what lunderstood -- I mean Mr. Siddoway, I think the enhancement of safety is our
request and they are ponying up half of the cost of it. It was our need, not their need.
They -- I think for their need they didn't care. It was our need of our concern about the
public and other patrons using the field for our games that we scheduled that somebody
could get injured. That's what I understood.
De Weerd: There was a safety issue.
Nary: Right. And --
De Weerd: Because you could not sit along the side line, Mr. Bird, without the threat of
being hit by a ball.
Nary: Maybe I misunderstood, but that's what I would say, it was our --
Bird: I was going to say, I have sat behind a lot of four foot fences at ball parks and
played on it. Who give the specs on the original fencing?
Nary: That I don't know.
Rountree: The school district.
Borton: Madam Mayor?
De Weerd: Yes.
Borton: This is one probably we can talk about some more. We can leave it in for right
now. I think one thing we talked about was giving us an update on what it might be and
anything beyond, (guess -- we can talk about it.
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year maintenance is -- do you have any problems with that on that end -- and what was
the amount on that, chief?
Rountree: The chiefs not here.
Bird: Yeah, he is.
Rountree: Okay.
Lavey: Councilman -- or Madam Mayor, Councilman Bird, I didn't provide those figures,
because it was just a fleeting idea that we had. We looked at maybe out sourcing it first
and, then, we made that proposal yesterday, but with the staffing the way it is, I was
looking at adding a whole new position, not just taking a person and making them --
promoting them. So, we are talking close to one hundred thousand dollars.
Bird: Does it have to be a sworn officer?
Lavey: It wouldn't have to be a sworn office, but, then, the question is what do you do
with them after the project is over with and my current plan, after the project is over with,
would, through attrition is bring them into the sworn staff.
Bird: I have got a question for you. If we get this accomplished and this person was to
get it accomplished from ground floor, why could he not be the manager of the firing
range? You don't need a sworn officer for that, do you?
Lavey: You may have different qualifications that you're looking for for those two
separate positions. So, it's possible, but if I was to put out a request for proposal, I
would look at two different sort of job set skills and so it could be done, but I probably
wouldn't do it. And I believe Mr. Nary has a comment as well:
Nary: Madam Mayor, Members of the Council, I haven't even talked to the chief, but
they do have that vacant deputy chief position: So, you have the personnel dollars
available and when he does -- if he wants to go forward, if that is your direction, he has
the funding to do it and when you actually fund the deputy chief that's been fulfilled that
he wants, he can always come back at that juncture and ask you for an amendment.
So, you have the available funding now if that's the chiefs desire. Again, last time
talked with him, but I know there is money available for that.
Bird: What's your desire, Jeff?
Lavey: Madam Mayor, Councilman Bird, I don't have any issues with that. I have got
finance over here whispering in my ear and she has some -- she has some opinions on
that, but I think it might be doable.
Bird: Okay. So, we don't need to put that in the budget right now.
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Bird: Sunday? I said Monday. And it's in the afternoon, so he can sleep in.
De Weerd: Okay. We have a Parks Commission meeting in five minutes, so is there
anything further?
Borton: Yeah. Quick question again on the -- what we just did in public safety reserve
fund, can that go up after a certain day?
Kilchenr~iann; ~ Pardon?
Borton: The public safety reserve fund that was just created about ten minutes ago.
Kilchenmann: What we will do is when we get it balanced, whatever is the excess we
will pit into the public-safety fund.
Borton: So; at the public hearing if item X is cut for whatever reason, that --
Kilchenmann: That number will change.
Borton: And that's okay?
Kilchenmann: Yeah, because the total will be the same.
Borton: Okay.
Kilchenmann: So yes.
Borton: Okay.
De Weerd: Okay. Council, if there is no further comment or change, I would entertain a
motion to adjourn.
Bird: So moved.
Rountree: Second.
Borton: Second.
Zaremba: Second.
De Weerd: All those in favor?
MOTION CARRIED: ALL AYES.
De Weerd: Thank you.
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